Take this FAQ for some of the more common comments: Q: What about Toriel? A: Aw dang, I didn't think of that. Oops! Her pronounces are Watashi and Anata, so no "kimi" even though it would be very normal for her to use it. (She does seem to like Formal language in English as well though, given she introduces herself with "Greetings." Q: What is that text at 23:19? A: Sometimes I can't resist those freeze frame bonuses, even though I know the reception to them is always polarized. For those who hate doing the legwork it says, "Do you really think you're done with me?" Q: Did you know the Ralsei theory lines up with the Official Line Stickers? A: ... oh crap I forgot to check the line stickers! Ralsei is indeed singing 'Don't Forget' in the stickers, seen here: store.line.me/stickershop/product/13505512/en I believe Toby has gone on record saying merch isn't considered cannon, but then... the stickers DO Foreshadow Snowgrave years in advance so... maybe something to consider? I wonder what the promise in our hearts is with Ralsei. Q: Wait the video got held up over copyright? How could you have missed that? A: I actually anticipated this possibility the moment I made it, and tried uploading just that part in advance as a safeguard, to see if it would cause issues... and it didn't?! You can see how it would have looked originally here: ruclips.net/video/OOOkdGOGqss/видео.html I could theoretically still turn on monetization for that, but I really don't want to tempt fate. Q: Okay but I just want to re-watch the remix, is there a place I can do that? A: Salticibread is surprised people enjoyed it so much, so I've spliced it out and give it to her for her channel. Link to it here: ruclips.net/video/FKROXs3rg9E/видео.html Q: Is the thumbnail a reference? A: Sort of? It was subconscious, I'm not sure I was ever exposed to the original meme, but I was definitely inspired by it on some level. Q: Wait I want to go further down this Japanese rabbithole! Is the unused text in Japanese? Is Spamton?! A: I sort of briefly touched upon this here, in this video: ruclips.net/video/rOzXTW8MBy4/видео.html But if you want to dig deeper here are some fun links for that: Chapter 1: tcrf.net/Proto:Deltarune/Chapter_1_%26_2_Demo_(2021)#Unused_Text.2FCode Chapter 2: tcrf.net/Proto:Deltarune/Chapter_1_%26_2_Demo_(2021)#Unused_Text.2FCode Link to a post examining how the two line up with Spamton in Japanese: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/662802350346584064/hey-so-you-remember-this-line-in-spamtons-shop I kind of wish I'd found that last one in time for the Gonercode video. Q: I wanna see these games in Japanese but can't find any let's plays for them. Halp! A: There's probably a lot of streamers and channels for this, but googling things in another language can be weird and confusing. So here's the two playlists I hop to when I need to check something quickly, but don't require footage quite yet. Kiyo's Let's Play Undertale in Japanese ruclips.net/p/PLPUGXakMkjRGVg2LCQmikR9EzJw04Ncuq KadaChan's Let's Play Deltarune in Japanese ruclips.net/p/PLm5lngQzGcnJh64ktCrj2X5cFxzDPKcUp Both these lets players tend to read things aloud, so even if your Japanese is at the level of a Potato, you might still be able to pick out a few words or compare two lines to see if their similar with sharp enough ears. Q: You said 'link in the description' but I can't see the description! A: RUclips can be weird, especially on mobile. Here's all the links I mentioned: No Chocolate Chara Theory: nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/134759853195/the-narrachara-theory-proof ClairePuppylove: linktr.ee/claire.puppylove Theory Regarding Chara's Memory during the Final Battle with Asriel: nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/147607339722/charas-redeeming-qualities Misty Sparkles Gaster Video: ruclips.net/video/RwDrTL3jhoQ/видео.html Suzy Undertale's post about Gaster and Chara in Japanese: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/180226681657/in-the-beginning-of-deltarune-as-you-may-know They also have other Undertale/Deltarune Japanese trivia: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/671399544811110400/can-someone-who-speaks-japanese-and-has-played-the Undertale Science's post about the fountain: undertale-science.tumblr.com/post/143081331873/this-statue-has-a-story-behind-it-first-of-all Lil Brimstone's post on Ralsei blushing on the SOUL hitbox: www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/qfc4mm/why_does_ralsei_blush_near_kris_my_crackpot_theory/ HylianAngel's Massive Repository of Undertale Save Files: www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/3szvui/my_undertale_save_files/ Kris Thriller Dance is from famicompro's post famicompro.tumblr.com/post/179666524337 But it's been memetically-mutated so many times all I can find of the original is the reblog here: peppermintchoko.tumblr.com/post/179868934999/famicompro-famicompro-hey-do-you-guys-mind-if/amp If you wanna throw me some of your WACKY STACKS and get early access, as well as access to the Original Version before The Copyright Gods struck it down, here's the Patreon link. www.patreon.com/HalfBreadChaos?fan_landing=true
@@Valery0p5 Oh dang I keep thinking I have, but I guess RUclips un-pins them when I edit them? Oopsie-Doopsie! And no problem, I'm glad they're making people happy. :D
I mentioned it before, but there's also a possibility it's Dess singing to Noelle from the Dark World she's trapped in as all of the lyrics would line up with Dess being familiar with how Dark Worlds work and Noelle's soul "shining through the cold", but much like most Gaster theories, there's not much to build on it past speculation.
I think it's Dess, singing to the player. After, you know, the whole "Kris ripping out his soul and pulling out a f**king knife while looking at the camera and his eyes glowing red" thing. (I censored that because of youtube being annoying)
@Chaotic Glitched I considered it, but the way Don't Forget is sung almost seems like a lullaby, like something Dess would sing to Noelle when she was little. Also _"The promise in our hearts, don't forget I'm with you in the dark"_ sounds a little too intimate to be between Kris and Dess. It's not impossible, but Noelle just makes the most sense to me.
@@NRobbi42 kris, asriel, noelle, and dess were all good friends when they were younger. it's implied that something bad happened to dess and it could've caused the tear between the holidays and the dreemurrs.
"It's a crudely drawn picture of 3 smiling people. Underneath is written 'Don't forget'." When I first heard the wong that was what I thought of. It seems likely there is a connection.
I agree that there is at least a small connection with that photo to Deltarune, even if it’s not the song. Toby Fox is an honest-to-God madman. EVERY SINGLE THING he has put in these games have served a purpose. There is also the “Darker yet darker”/Gaster and the Clam girl turning Goner at the end of Undertale that relate/reference/connect to Deltarune. I strongly believe that Sans workshop is another one. Once is an accident, Twice is a coincidence, and Three times is a pattern.
The future version of HalfBreadChaos should be called FullBreadChaos, from a future where the chaos has taken full effect, aka after the release of more of Deltarune's chapters. Because when chapter 1 was released, people went crazy, and when Chapter 2 was released, Snowgrave/Weird route and all, people went considerably crazier. Just imagine what the next release will be like.
I usually imagine toriel is singing the ending song Even though that probably doesn't make much sense to me, it's sort of a "when things are scary, imagine i'm with you" thing that mothers tell their children
I usually think it's Toriel too. Mostly because Kris was probably happier when Asriel was there, and Toriel sang a lullaby like this to them as children. Seems like a "if it gets scary, pretend I'm with you" thing.
I think that Don't Forget serves the same purpose that Love Like You does in Steven Universe. The situation and feelings the lyrics describe is that of caring for someone deeply and not understanding why they reciprocate that care, because you don't know what someone as incredible as them sees as worthy in you. There are many characters in the show who feel that way about someone (Greg about Rose, Pearl about Rose... quite a few characters about Rose/Pink in fact, but also likely Steven about Connie, and Steven about his mom, as it's not limited to romantic relationships), and it could apply to any of them. So, I think it's possible that Don't Forget could be sung by many different characters to many other different characters. Ralsei reminding the Fun Gang (and you!) that he'll always be there to help, come hell or high water, Susie promising to remain Kris's friend regardless of how strangely they might act, Chara, HIM... the list goes on. Heck, HBC suggested the idea of it being Berdly as a joke, but it could very well be him reassuring his newly made friends that he'll always be with them- after all, it meant everything to him when Susie and Lancer told him that they didn't care if he wasn't a genius, so the reassurance that he'll always be there for him could be him paying it forward, so to speak! I know that this interpretation is more vague and thematic than precise and analytical, but I think that I'm at least sort of onto something here. I'm very curious to see how it might apply to the relationships between characters and us as players going forward, as the ones we have now continue to develop and we see more in future chapters!
Yeah, I definitely think that Ralsei is the most likely candidate for the singer. He meets most, if not all, of the major criteria: - Close with the Main Character (Very attached to Kris) - Promise in Our Hearts (Likely referring to the promise between the Delta Warriors to seal the Fountains and save the world) - With You in the Dark (Accompanies us throughout the Dark Worlds) - Uses Both Kanji and Kana - Uses Correct “You” Prounoun (Kimi) - Uses Correct “I” Pronoun (Boku) Hell, even the female singer can be chalked up to Ralsei’s overtly feminine nature. What seals the deal for me is one of the DELTARUNE Line Stickers, which literally depicts Ralsei singing Don’t Forget. And the lore significance of these stickers should not be underestimated, considering that one of them alluded to the Snowgrave Route years ahead of time. Lastly, it is possible that Ralsei had been singing this song for some time whilst waiting alone in his castle for the other two Delta Warriors to arrive, which could be what Onionsan was referring to when they bring up the song coming from the sea. The excerpt that we hear at the end of Chapter 2 might actually be Ralsei singing the song again, waiting for Kris and Susie to return the next day.
Something I noticed is that the first couple lines of Don't Forget line up pretty much perfectly with the first couple sentences of the prophecy for the Roaring. (When the light is running low) [When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW] (And the shadows start to grow) [When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky] And to an extent: (And the places that you know seem like fantasy) [All will fall into CHAOS]
I think the third line is in reference to how all the dark worlds have a fantasy element, helping the lightners to emotionally develop and overcome their mental struggles.
To be honest, I kind of always thought it was _us._ We're with Kris in the dark, are we not? It feels like we're comforting Kris. "There's a light inside your soul that's still shining in the cold"- that's us, talking about us. We're reassuring Kris that we'll be with Kris as long as they need. Also aligns with how Jevil's theme features the song heavily- because Jevil is so meta, he knows of us. It's like he's mocking us, telling us he knows.
“And the places that you know seem like fantasy” seems like it’s referring to the dark worlds. When that is followed by “ There’s a light inside your soul, that’s still shining in the cold” I think that’s supposed to refer to using our power to seal the fountains.
Hmm speaking of Jevil,, :] There's an (unofficial) THE WORLD REVOLVING with lyrics by MOTI (aka Man On The Internet) and it has its own spin of the lyrics of Don't forget! "When the light is running low, and the shadows start to grow!" "And the places that you know, cut away the afterglow!" "There's a light inside your soul...SLOWLY SHRINKING IN THE COLD!" "From the truth deep down you know...and yet DARKER we will go.." "Can't you see? YOUR WORLD IS A FANTASY!!!" It took me couple of years to notice that's a fun take on the lyrics from Jevil's perspective :D
I have absolutely no clue if this will bear fruit, but I can't help but notice that "don't forget, i'm with you in the dark" could sound incredibly sinister if spoken by the wrong person. And it's that part of the motif that plays when you seal the dark fountains.
You're my absolute favorite UT/DR theorist. Your editing style and humor absolutely shine through the TTS. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next one!
“You whispered Noelle’s name,” and suddenly she is already beside you as if she never left. That and the fact that you can spy on Susie from anywhere and command your party seemingly telepathically seems to show that the soul can be with anyone in the dark (but only in the dark).
I've always seen it as either Ralsei or Asriel. For a storytelling perspective, it would make sense and fit into the narrative. Now, for an Undertale perspective... It definitely usually seeks to break the expectations, so I don't know.
I always thought that who was singing was ralsei but now that i think about it it could be asriel too. But i think that asriel is ralsei they look the same and the name asriel has the same letters of the name ralsei. I think that ralsei is asriel stuck in the dark world.
......I always thought it was _us._ It seems pretty obvious to me, it's us, singing a comforting lullaby to Kris. The light inside their SOUL is _us, we're_ with Kris in the dark. I don't get why this was never mentioned in the video, because doesn't it sound like the most logical answer? It's the player, singing a song of love to Kris.
Considering Dess’s disappearance I always thought she sung Don’t Forget Considering Kris’s role it’s be weird to have Chara have a presence in Deltarune
Yeah, Chara’s inclusion would be redundant and a poor twist. A theory I share is that Kris, Dess and maybe Asriel and Noelle fell into a dark world before, and had to fight their way out, only Dess either fell or fell behind. Perhaps this song could be a promise is between them, “if you become lost, stay determined, and ill find you”
What interests me most is the subject of the piece - the singer could be anyone and Laura's performance might even just be a "cover" and not the voice of the original speaker. But who is being spoken to? More on that later. Spamton says to Kris, "you're lightner, you've got the light... why don't you show it off?" He also mentions wanting the HeartShapedObject just before this. If "there's a light inside your soul," then together this means that lightners uniquely possess some kind of light, and it's an attribute of or a power within the SOUL. Spamton needs the SOUL to "see past the dark and stare into H E A V E N", presumably also by the light within that heart. Dark Fountains are also blasted away in a burst of light from the SOUL, while a Don't Forget riff plays. Save points, too, are described as "a light that only you can see", and they fill you with "certain powers". But, what else is a certain power "that all lightners possess"? Oh no. It's the Determination question. Because it could be that "the light" is determination - the power in Deltarune to create Dark Worlds and what was the SAVE power at least in Undertale. If so, determination is also the power to destroy or leave Dark Worlds. But it could also be that determination is a power opposite or beside the light - the creative, escapist power of Dark vs. the saving, reality-checking power of Light. Either way, it seems that while "light inside your soul" should be an obvious reference to Kris or the player, it could still be talking to any lightner - they all got the light. Since it's "still shining in the cold", yeah that seems to be about the Holidays. Can't say exactly if Dess sung to Noelle or Noelle to her, or either to Kris, or... But I'd guess that the song will have a poetic or cathartic ring to it - that it was just a childhood lullaby once for one person but by the story's end it means more and applies to many people. There's no agreed-upon gender neutral voice because none exists in reality; trying to craft one out of other real voices will inevitably sound like a highish man's, a lowish woman's, or from someone whose face has been turned into a robot one.
hey chaos, i appreciate you responding to my last comment. normally people just say like "yea sure whatever" but you responded with a bunch of questions that made me actually have to think deeper. so yeah thanks, life was getting kinda boring without any mental challenges.
Oh! No problem, haha. I love to debate and consider different perspectives but I'm always worried when I respond to people that I'm going to make people feel attacked, so it's relieving when I get an audience that enjoys the discussion.
@@HalfBreadChaos do you think you could look at chapter 2's ending theme. it sounds all cut up anytime i listen to it. it seems like there's something worth looking into
21:38 when listening to this while in another tab, I immediately thought of Ralsei in the hood as like, within a city lmao, I forgot that he wears a literal hood for a minute
honestly so so glad that i found this channel and that you’re growing!!! this is literally the only channel on youtube that actually brings something new to the theorycrafting table, covering things some didn’t even know about! meanwhile others put clickbait titles on their vids and then explain to you who gaster followers are.. for 10 minutes.. and then “oh but what if CHARA? IS GASTER BEHIND TREE??” like yes janet WE KNOW. sorry, just had to get this off my chest. Incredible stuff as always, HBC!
Hey so, I haven’t seen any/many people talk about this so I’m going to: The background of the Goner Maker sequence, that almost watery looking stuff, has the same or a very similar texture to that of the Fountains. Are we in a fountain at the beginning of the game? Or am I off base?
I have this crazy theory that the Titans that Ralsei mentioned are Players, which would make us, in-universe, also a Titan that potentially doesn’t realize they are the same thing Ralsei was talking about. Along with what you said, the Titans’ “faces” are giant SAVE points, a power that the Player ultimately has absolute control over in any video game/universe.
@@TheRealSuperKirby Yup. Specifically the appearance that a fountain takes when you're close o it inside of a Dark World - a jagged, almost prismatic figure.
In an undertale iceberg video, i saw some stickers that toby uses. One of them was referring to snowgrave route before it even came out, other one was ralsei singing "dont forget".
Can I just say your little animations with the goners smacking Gaster like a feral cat jumping into your room uninvited is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen???
ralsei explaining the roaring is a little similar to the song's lyrics "when the light is subsumed by shadow" "when the light is running low" pretty similar. it could be a coincidence though. i think it's ralsei, because he is with you in the dark, and not the light, and asriel is in college, he isn't with us,
Dess is a possibility I think about a lot. Her mysterious disappearance was probably traumatizing for Noelle. And we know from evidence that Noelle tends to repress traumatic memories. If you keep that in mind, the line “Don’t Forget, I’m with you in the dark” has another impact. This could very well be Dess telling Noelle to remember her, or remember what happened “in the dark” (Perhaps when they went exploring in the graveyard at night - hence, in the dark) Some other lines can be explained just by them being siblings. “The promise in our hearts” Perhaps Dess and Noelle promised eachother something? Maybe something Noelle needs to remember? “There’s a light inside your soul that’s still shining in the cold” ‘In the cold’ is pretty easy to tie to the Noelle (or just the Holiday family in general) The light inside your soul portion is a little harder. Dess could be reminding Noelle of her inner hope/determination? Noelle is seen being easily manipulated and conditioned to a role of obedience and servitude. Perhaps Dess is remindering her of her own identity/individuality? “The light inside your soul” could be a reminder to Noelle that she’s her own person, she has her own light. This is all very vague connections, and there’s a large possibly im wrong. Feel free to correct me on anything 😁
2 things: 1. Glad to see the "In the genocide run, CHARA isn't the villain, you, the player, are." Theory taking off. 2. I've always assumed that Don't Forget is a memory of a slightly younger Asriel reassuring Kris as they're going through their implied depressed phase as a younger child.
@@gmalamat1393 _ruclips.net/video/MYHXpdNqdGs_/видео.html This is the theory I'm talking about, and there's a followup that they did to it. Check it out, even if you disagree, it provides an interesting alternative perspective.
@@dakota6050 We don't really manipulate Chara, he chose to be a world ending psychopath all we did is influence them. And even then its implied that Chara wasn't a good person and leans towards the side of bad rather than good.
My patrons keep making amazing music and then claiming they're bad at it and have no talent. XD I hope if I keep forwarding comments like this they'll have the same experience I did, of realizing that even if "I" think my stuff is bad, that doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.
Yes!! I absolutely love this theory. I thought immediately after you explained the Asriel thing, "well, clearly this must be Ralsei singing then, right?" if only because of how much it seems Toby Fox is trying to connect the two.
You outdid yourself with the editing this time, and i love the "usual suspects" thumbnail, tho it would fit better for a video about who's the Knight imo Regarding Chara, I used to strongly believe she was involved, but now that we got ch2 and the alarm clock... I'm not so certain anymore, even with the japanese pronouns stuff. Like you said, sans Can change founts, so there's no reason the Doctor wouldn't be able to do the same. Does sans uses different japanese "you" when he's not talking in comic sans ? What kind of "You" IS used at the end of ENTRY NUMBER 17 ? What if this song was actually our theme ? Like, the player's theme ? What if WE are the "light inside the soul" ? Idk I think the lyrics could make sense from this perspective aswell... Also, i'd like to point out that coldness is often associated with Darkness and the absence of Determination in Undertale, so maybe that's what the song is refering to Because yeah Ch2's weird route was about freezing ennemies, but i doubt that future weird routes will involve ice. I'm fairly certain that ch3's weird route will not feature snowgrave. It's more likely that we'll get something like idk "Fire storm" or smth so i don't think that Noëlle is the one with us in the dark Also, do you plan on making a video about "The Bunker Incident" theory ?
The 'you' in entry 17... Oh! Good question! I forgot that the words are still Japanese, even if the wingdings make it romanji (Japanese words in English letters). Kimi-tachi. (So the plural 'kimi'). Whelp I guess I know what the Maus-Trap video is going to be about.
This is the video that got me hooked to this channel! It's still a good theory and should be discussed more! Thank you Half Bread for all your theories, I love them and I hope you have more theories to share!
Ok about Berdly: He goes through the beginning of a character development prechapter 1, due to he not wanting to cause danger to Noelle but needing the knowledge she has to keep up a façade despite knowing it is wrong. We also know that he and Noelle talk about more casual things like games, due to a comment via Rudy in chapter 2's weird route. During chapter 1 interactions we see very little shift in this if at all. At the beginning of chapter 2 we see him try to prevent Noelle from needing to trouble herself with having to read out loud a segment of a story, a story that is suggested at this time to imply a dark future for Rudy and Noelle, which considering what Rudy is going through right now and how it would be difficult at first to properly vocalize the story when you are more shy and soft-spoken, in a segment when it would be seen as Berdly being rude it could actually be him showing a large degree of caring for Noelle. At the end of chapter 2 he admits his shortcomings to people he was nervous with, causing him to initially take a "I am me so I am good!" look due to our perspective, but we could tell the true source of his reasoning is for Noelle's safety and care, even if it is entirely misguided and leads to him being "Fallen down" in the weird route due to his immediate reaction of Noelle's new perspective and the fact you would need to trick him to get him to hurt Noelle. While we commonly portray nervousness as trying to be shy, a less explained one is trying to out-show the person in question for they are actually trying to show that they are decent and good, even if their methods are wrong, ie: Berdly throughout the entirety of the story so far. Anyways, Berdly admits his failures to Kris Susie and Ralsei, and then afterwards seems to act less stuck up, which could be that he is less nervous at the end of the story. Due to the fact that he and Noelle can act casually we know that he had likely already explained his situation to her and she is going along, which is entirely in her character to do so. TLDR: he went through a minor character shift, but we are able to notice it because he is less nervous with Kris and Susie due to his less stuck up attitude, meaning that at the end of Chapter 2 we helped 2 characters be less nervous, both basically showing one of the two forms of nervousness. Also we help 1 character be more friendly in Chapter 1 so that might be a trope that happens should we stick to the "Normal" routes.
I think the genius of this song is that it can be be applied to different characters with different contexts without changing the lyrics, and that it was actually intended for all of them.
I remember seeing a comic that portrayed Ralsei as the singer and Asriel as the song writer who used to sing it to kris when they were younger to calm kris down. I love that idea.
I think that Ralsei is fully aware of 4th wall stuff but there's absolutely nothing malicious about him. Not a single thing. I say this specifically about the part where you say he's prioritizing the player's over Kris's feelings - parenthesized text indicates someone's thoughts (see a ton of snowgrave Noelle interactions), so I think Ralsei is attributing the decision to Kris and going along with it. Also, if he prioritized the player so much, I don't think we would see him going behind the player's back to explain things to Kris. on the topic, I think the way he avoids things and says to just not think about it too hard is his own coping mechanism or w/e offered in good faith - something you'd probably need with the kind of knowledge he has.
I wanna say that anyone can use any pronoun, so referring to yourself can change depending on the mood you want to communicate (although more commonly influenced by the social situation). However knowing Toby he clearly likes being deliberate about that sort of thing so I'm assuming he's thinking along the same lines you are, and the 1st/2nd pronouns are intentionally character specific. I literally didn't notice at all the difference in Kanji usage between light/dark worlds when I played, I just mindlessly thought sometimes the translators decided not to use kanji here and there, lmao I'm a genius I tell ya
At the very end of Don't Forget, while Laura Shigihara sings the word "dark", the first three notes of Gaster's Theme, transposed up by two semitones (B, C, G), plays. It's even played on a piano, the same instrument used in Gaster's Theme.
so the thing is, in music "君(kimi)" is actually very typical even if you'd normally use something else, so in fact the use of "私(watashi)" is actually more interesting because in music for the first person you would normally use "僕(boku)" even if you usually use something else
Stop harassing Berdly, he's literally my top-3 favorite character :D I totally agree on Ralsei knowing about the player and caring more about them than Kris. There was a lot to pick up from, even without knowing Japanese! I actually think that he mostly expected the player, not the fun gang, that's why he was so happy and motivated in Ch 1. During Ch 2 he starts doubting himself a bit and trying to think out of the box. So, what I presume his arc is going to be, learning true friendship. He bonded with Susie already. If he has to choose: Kris or the Player, who will he choose? Or will he be so helpless, he'd ask the Player directly? Does he choose a friend or us?
6:32 1-Those are Asriel's memories Temmie refers to this scene as "When Asriel regains his memories" and the game files call it "Room_asrielmemory.xml" 2-The memory we get at Waterfalls is also likely Asriel's. in Waterfall Asriel's statue plays the song "Memory" which has the same leitmotif as "His theme" We also get this memory after falling into a bed of golden flowers, which have Asriel's dust/essence in them
I don't have any smart theory stuff to add, but I laughed so much during this vid, and the way you organize information continues to make it both easy and fun to follow along without ever feeling lost! Thank you for all of your hard work!
I think that maybe "Don't forget" was a song that Asriel or Dess sang to Kris or Noelle when they had nightmares or trouble sleeping "When the light is running low And the shadows start to grow And the places that you know Feel like fantasy" "Feel like fantasy" is probabily referring to dreaming the places you know, and "When the shadows start to grow" might be referring to nightmares or fear in general
Hello HalfBreadChaos! I have no idea whether you will read this, but I just want to let you know that your content is amazing! The amount of research you do and the way you convey that research in a way that is relatively easy to follow despite the complexity of the subject matter is incredible. You always capture my attention with these videos and I enjoy them all immensely. Another aspect I want to praise is your "color commentary" from all the different deltarune characters throughout the video. All of the characters remain true to their personalities and I love all the little nods to them in your script. I read every single one of these and love these additions. Thank you for what you do!
This channel is like the most literal kind of Positive Feedback loop, in which the comments are filled with positivity and then I say, "thank you all so much," and then I get more positivity? Is this what the [hyperlink blocked] is?? I could see how someone could go through withdrawal if you suddenly cut them off from this. Since I've already given you all my [heart shaped object] I guess my new goal in life is to avoid the Spamton fate of [crying alone in a dumpster]
You’re a lovely person, HalfBreadChaos, and your fans will come rescue you from your dumpster-dwelling whenever you need. But truly, I’ve been having a really tough time recently, and just the general positive vibes from your channel have been keeping me afloat in my mental health situation. :)
Good question. Seam uses all three writing systems (hirigana, katakana, kanji) while Gaster avoids hirigana completely. Seam's 'I' pronoun is 'atashi' (here it implies age) and 'you' pronoun is "antara,' (highly informal). That's a tense contrast to Gaster's formal 'wareware" and 'anata.'
I’m most drawn to the idea that the singer is either Asriel or Dess because the song has big big sibling energy. Was firmly covenced it was Asriel since the first verse works so well as him trying to reassure Kris after a nightmare that his big bro is literally in the same room as him. My theory is now more on Dess given her disappearance and the possibly of her being trapped in the dark in someway. But I like the idea that Asriel and Dess created the song together to comfort Kris and Noelle.
My theory is that Toreil is singing while Kris plays the piano, because Kris can play the piano. Or Toreil is just singing Kris a lullaby, a memory when they were younger.
I don't think it's Chara reminding us of our pact, being as not everyone did a no mercy run. And as a sequel it wouldn't make sense to say that you, the player, did something that you didn't do
I like to think that its Toriel, even though she's not with us in the Dark World, she is very close to Kris because... Do i even have to explain? She's Kris's mother.
Just to get one thing straight, I don’t think Toby would ever create the game with the assumption that the player has completed or even knows about Undertale’s genocide run. So the implication that it’s Chara as depicted in the genocide run is probably out.
Woah that's an interesting theory as always. I love the entire videos, the effects, the text to speech, the gags, the jokes and i know... making personal audio its really hard but don't worry we're humans with power of Determination after all... Continue in this way. :D Maybe Gaster comes in the future chapter? Anyway you made a really good job and work. ;)
Tbh, I believe that the song isn’t directed at us, the player. Instead, I think that we the player, are talking to Kris. Telling them that we are literally with them in the dark. There’s prolly more evidence that disproves this though, just a neat idea that could even further build the character relationship between Kris and the player
In another way, the song could be sung by Dess to Noelle. Maybe a lullaby for Noelle to feel safe when she’s alone? Or maybe it’s a hint for Noelle to look for her sister in the dark world, but I’m not sure. Tell me what you think
I think it’s both. Like a double meaning thing. Maybe at first it was a comforting lullaby but then Dess got lost and is trying to tell Noelle where she is?
I Believe That the Song could Just represent the whole Story as Witze "the places That you know Seem Like Fantasy" but if I would have to choose I'd choose Toriel. Thus Song seems Like a lullaby That she would sing Asriel and Kris to sleep with
I feel the necessity of pointing out that in the FAQ section of Chapter 1 Toby Makes it REALLY clear that Deltarune is a "Different World" than Undertale, Normally I would think this means that Deltarune and Undertale are 2 totally disconnected stories, but I feel that It is really Strange that he says that they are "Different Worlds" multiple times, expecially knowing Chara's Dialogue in the Genocide Route "Let us erase this pointless world, and move on to the next.". I feel like Toby would know about the infinite amount of Undertale AU's (Alternate Universes) and try to market Deltarune as an AU to separete the story from the OG seeing that he make's it clear in the post that Deltarune has "different characters, that have lived different lives." But he sticks to "Different Worlds". I can't think of how this could Help in a Theory and it probably doesn't but i feel like there isn't people thinking about this
I love all the time you put into your vid’s like damn you put so much love into these I rewatch all of them when I’m bored (PS I have made a little something for you on my channel)
I don't think "don't be a berdly" is just. He just wanted to be remembered, not just a forgettable little bluebird. Now your insulting him. EDIT: Thanks for forgiving him at the end
I don't seem to be making it to every video anymore, but not doing so's a big mistake! Somehow, in the short time the chapter's been out, you've not only started decent by covering more than most others, but exponentially improve your presentation. The only channel I recall using sprites like this was Underlab, but you quickly found good ways to integrate them into everything in a way that feels more genuine. There's no moment where nothing on the screen neither helps your points or presents in-universe jokes, and the consistency's a rare treasure! Admittedly, the text to speech is at times a little dry, but changing it now would be worse than continuing to use it. While I don't quite understand the statement about how the music box is powered (the water seems to be interfering with it rather than anything else), there seems to always be more about it unacknowledged. It does share the his theme leitmotif, but is much bigger in figure than any boss monster besides Asgore. I see it as a symbol of protection, as it/he overlooks and possibly shields the smaller figures.
Ah fair, the flavor text says "the structure at it's feet seems dry." When you put the umbrella over it, it changes the flow of water so that the mechanism can run again. :D But yeah, glad to hear you're digging the changes. I always worry when I change things, but experimentation is the fastest way to improve, even if it's also the riskiest.
I think it's 𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 interesting that the song uses kanji, and says "I'm with you in the dark" and the game proceeds to also have all characters within a dark world speak with kanji
In the comic paper trail ( a wonderful fan comic btw) they say the song is sung by asreil, comforting Kris when he has an episode. It is very sweet, and the comic hits you hard with it. It has now become my head canon till Toby fox tells us what it means.
There is a group of deltarune line stickers, and one of them is ralsei singing don't forget. So until new evidence is dropped it's safe to say it's ralsei. They also foreshadowed snowgrave so these stickers are important.
I love these videos so much. Some of the highlights quality compilation and presentation of Evidence I’ve seen on this game. also some great editing and theorywork!
obviously it's no holds bard, there's a sunflower in that group, and we all know sunflower as laura shigihara sung zombies in our lawn, the same person who sung don't forget. additionally she also created the game rakuen, where no holds bars comes from.
Hey, I recently saw a theory video from Jaru Jaru J called what is Ralsei that is extremely well made and potentially offers some context for the possibility of the song being sung by Asriel in a metaphorical sense. (If the song is not genuinely being sung directly from a character) They don't directly mention the song in the video, but I think that the theory ties up a lot of questions that the Fandom has, and offers some potentially suggestive evidennce for Asriel as the solution to this particular question. I loved the editing in this video, and I hope you have a good day
I have an extra candidate for the singer. What if the singer is kris? Kris is certainly with us in the dark, and it's important to remember that we aren't kris, they are a separate person. The song ends with "I'm with you in the dark" not, I'm with kris in the dark. I couldnt help but notice that the line "with the truth, the promise in our hearts" says OUR hearts, not my heart or your heart, kris shares a heart with us. Also, we dont really know how kris talks, so we cant count them out that way, and it would explain why its different than most characters. Also, we know from the spamton sweepstakes that kris is musically adept, as they play piano quite well, so it would be reasonable to assume that kris could sing, and might enjoy singing alone at the end of each chapter. I feel like I had something else to add to this but I forgot.
Take this FAQ for some of the more common comments:
Q: What about Toriel?
A: Aw dang, I didn't think of that. Oops!
Her pronounces are Watashi and Anata, so no "kimi" even though it would be very normal for her to use it. (She does seem to like Formal language in English as well though, given she introduces herself with "Greetings."
Q: What is that text at 23:19?
A: Sometimes I can't resist those freeze frame bonuses, even though I know the reception to them is always polarized. For those who hate doing the legwork it says, "Do you really think you're done with me?"
Q: Did you know the Ralsei theory lines up with the Official Line Stickers?
A: ... oh crap I forgot to check the line stickers!
Ralsei is indeed singing 'Don't Forget' in the stickers, seen here:
store.line.me/stickershop/product/13505512/en
I believe Toby has gone on record saying merch isn't considered cannon, but then... the stickers DO Foreshadow Snowgrave years in advance so... maybe something to consider? I wonder what the promise in our hearts is with Ralsei.
Q: Wait the video got held up over copyright? How could you have missed that?
A: I actually anticipated this possibility the moment I made it, and tried uploading just that part in advance as a safeguard, to see if it would cause issues... and it didn't?!
You can see how it would have looked originally here: ruclips.net/video/OOOkdGOGqss/видео.html
I could theoretically still turn on monetization for that, but I really don't want to tempt fate.
Q: Okay but I just want to re-watch the remix, is there a place I can do that?
A: Salticibread is surprised people enjoyed it so much, so I've spliced it out and give it to her for her channel. Link to it here: ruclips.net/video/FKROXs3rg9E/видео.html
Q: Is the thumbnail a reference?
A: Sort of? It was subconscious, I'm not sure I was ever exposed to the original meme, but I was definitely inspired by it on some level.
Q: Wait I want to go further down this Japanese rabbithole! Is the unused text in Japanese? Is Spamton?!
A: I sort of briefly touched upon this here, in this video: ruclips.net/video/rOzXTW8MBy4/видео.html
But if you want to dig deeper here are some fun links for that:
Chapter 1: tcrf.net/Proto:Deltarune/Chapter_1_%26_2_Demo_(2021)#Unused_Text.2FCode
Chapter 2: tcrf.net/Proto:Deltarune/Chapter_1_%26_2_Demo_(2021)#Unused_Text.2FCode
Link to a post examining how the two line up with Spamton in Japanese: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/662802350346584064/hey-so-you-remember-this-line-in-spamtons-shop
I kind of wish I'd found that last one in time for the Gonercode video.
Q: I wanna see these games in Japanese but can't find any let's plays for them. Halp!
A: There's probably a lot of streamers and channels for this, but googling things in another language can be weird and confusing. So here's the two playlists I hop to when I need to check something quickly, but don't require footage quite yet.
Kiyo's Let's Play Undertale in Japanese
ruclips.net/p/PLPUGXakMkjRGVg2LCQmikR9EzJw04Ncuq
KadaChan's Let's Play Deltarune in Japanese
ruclips.net/p/PLm5lngQzGcnJh64ktCrj2X5cFxzDPKcUp
Both these lets players tend to read things aloud, so even if your Japanese is at the level of a Potato, you might still be able to pick out a few words or compare two lines to see if their similar with sharp enough ears.
Q: You said 'link in the description' but I can't see the description!
A: RUclips can be weird, especially on mobile. Here's all the links I mentioned:
No Chocolate Chara Theory: nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/134759853195/the-narrachara-theory-proof
ClairePuppylove: linktr.ee/claire.puppylove
Theory Regarding Chara's Memory during the Final Battle with Asriel:
nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/147607339722/charas-redeeming-qualities
Misty Sparkles Gaster Video: ruclips.net/video/RwDrTL3jhoQ/видео.html
Suzy Undertale's post about Gaster and Chara in Japanese: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/180226681657/in-the-beginning-of-deltarune-as-you-may-know
They also have other Undertale/Deltarune Japanese trivia: suzyundertale.tumblr.com/post/671399544811110400/can-someone-who-speaks-japanese-and-has-played-the
Undertale Science's post about the fountain: undertale-science.tumblr.com/post/143081331873/this-statue-has-a-story-behind-it-first-of-all
Lil Brimstone's post on Ralsei blushing on the SOUL hitbox: www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/qfc4mm/why_does_ralsei_blush_near_kris_my_crackpot_theory/
HylianAngel's Massive Repository of Undertale Save Files: www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/3szvui/my_undertale_save_files/
Kris Thriller Dance is from famicompro's post famicompro.tumblr.com/post/179666524337
But it's been memetically-mutated so many times all I can find of the original is the reblog here: peppermintchoko.tumblr.com/post/179868934999/famicompro-famicompro-hey-do-you-guys-mind-if/amp
If you wanna throw me some of your WACKY STACKS and get early access, as well as access to the Original Version before The Copyright Gods struck it down, here's the Patreon link. www.patreon.com/HalfBreadChaos?fan_landing=true
You should pin this comment btw.
Loving your videos mate! These aren't even just theory ones, the videos are super entertaining!
@@Valery0p5 Oh dang I keep thinking I have, but I guess RUclips un-pins them when I edit them? Oopsie-Doopsie!
And no problem, I'm glad they're making people happy. :D
actually, its temmie
How did you do that DF cover?
Salticibread made it for me after I tried and failed to figure it out on my own.
Between Gaster choir and Don't Forget she's the MVP of this video.
I mentioned it before, but there's also a possibility it's Dess singing to Noelle from the Dark World she's trapped in as all of the lyrics would line up with Dess being familiar with how Dark Worlds work and Noelle's soul "shining through the cold", but much like most Gaster theories, there's not much to build on it past speculation.
YES I THINK IT'S DESS TOO
I think it's Dess, singing to the player. After, you know, the whole "Kris ripping out his soul and pulling out a f**king knife while looking at the camera and his eyes glowing red" thing. (I censored that because of youtube being annoying)
@Chaotic Glitched I considered it, but the way Don't Forget is sung almost seems like a lullaby, like something Dess would sing to Noelle when she was little.
Also _"The promise in our hearts, don't forget I'm with you in the dark"_ sounds a little too intimate to be between Kris and Dess. It's not impossible, but Noelle just makes the most sense to me.
@@NRobbi42 kris, asriel, noelle, and dess were all good friends when they were younger. it's implied that something bad happened to dess and it could've caused the tear between the holidays and the dreemurrs.
@@abigail-ack That's certainly one of the big theories going around
"It's a crudely drawn picture of 3 smiling people. Underneath is written 'Don't forget'."
When I first heard the wong that was what I thought of. It seems likely there is a connection.
I agree that there is at least a small connection with that photo to Deltarune, even if it’s not the song. Toby Fox is an honest-to-God madman. EVERY SINGLE THING he has put in these games have served a purpose. There is also the “Darker yet darker”/Gaster and the Clam girl turning Goner at the end of Undertale that relate/reference/connect to Deltarune. I strongly believe that Sans workshop is another one. Once is an accident, Twice is a coincidence, and Three times is a pattern.
Interestingly the usual interpretation of that picture implies that Kris is smiling, which, seems interesting
@@hyper_lynx probably means Kris used to smile before we came along.
the wong
@@noyz-anything Song. typo.
The future version of HalfBreadChaos should be called FullBreadChaos, from a future where the chaos has taken full effect, aka after the release of more of Deltarune's chapters.
Because when chapter 1 was released, people went crazy, and when Chapter 2 was released, Snowgrave/Weird route and all, people went considerably crazier. Just imagine what the next release will be like.
Maybe HBC from the future is the other half of the bread
@@hy7864 Come Ch.3, we will have a chaos sandwich.
wait, aren't chapters 3-5 releasing all at once?
Dear god.
@@supremechaosbeing2696 Triple the Chapters, Triple the Chaos.
WholeWheatChaos
I usually imagine toriel is singing the ending song
Even though that probably doesn't make much sense
to me, it's sort of a "when things are scary, imagine i'm with you" thing that mothers tell their children
That would be a much more simple explanation. It could be kris remembering her singing to them and asriel.
@@maximumforce8275 iris?
It just seems to be a theme of the game
Just look at the amount of candidates
I mean, its kinda like a lullaby so... Toriel could sing that to Asriel
I usually think it's Toriel too. Mostly because Kris was probably happier when Asriel was there, and Toriel sang a lullaby like this to them as children. Seems like a "if it gets scary, pretend I'm with you" thing.
I think that Don't Forget serves the same purpose that Love Like You does in Steven Universe. The situation and feelings the lyrics describe is that of caring for someone deeply and not understanding why they reciprocate that care, because you don't know what someone as incredible as them sees as worthy in you. There are many characters in the show who feel that way about someone (Greg about Rose, Pearl about Rose... quite a few characters about Rose/Pink in fact, but also likely Steven about Connie, and Steven about his mom, as it's not limited to romantic relationships), and it could apply to any of them. So, I think it's possible that Don't Forget could be sung by many different characters to many other different characters. Ralsei reminding the Fun Gang (and you!) that he'll always be there to help, come hell or high water, Susie promising to remain Kris's friend regardless of how strangely they might act, Chara, HIM... the list goes on. Heck, HBC suggested the idea of it being Berdly as a joke, but it could very well be him reassuring his newly made friends that he'll always be with them- after all, it meant everything to him when Susie and Lancer told him that they didn't care if he wasn't a genius, so the reassurance that he'll always be there for him could be him paying it forward, so to speak!
I know that this interpretation is more vague and thematic than precise and analytical, but I think that I'm at least sort of onto something here. I'm very curious to see how it might apply to the relationships between characters and us as players going forward, as the ones we have now continue to develop and we see more in future chapters!
whar is Steven Universe
The comparison to Love Like You makes me wonder if this is even the full version of the song, maybe there will be later verses revealed :O
@@randomgamer3946 Steven Universe is a cartoon
@@danielzakgaim2764 ok
You wrote a whole paragraph!
Yeah, I definitely think that Ralsei is the most likely candidate for the singer. He meets most, if not all, of the major criteria:
- Close with the Main Character (Very attached to Kris)
- Promise in Our Hearts (Likely referring to the promise between the Delta Warriors to seal the Fountains and save the world)
- With You in the Dark (Accompanies us throughout the Dark Worlds)
- Uses Both Kanji and Kana
- Uses Correct “You” Prounoun (Kimi)
- Uses Correct “I” Pronoun (Boku)
Hell, even the female singer can be chalked up to Ralsei’s overtly feminine nature.
What seals the deal for me is one of the DELTARUNE Line Stickers, which literally depicts Ralsei singing Don’t Forget. And the lore significance of these stickers should not be underestimated, considering that one of them alluded to the Snowgrave Route years ahead of time.
Lastly, it is possible that Ralsei had been singing this song for some time whilst waiting alone in his castle for the other two Delta Warriors to arrive, which could be what Onionsan was referring to when they bring up the song coming from the sea. The excerpt that we hear at the end of Chapter 2 might actually be Ralsei singing the song again, waiting for Kris and Susie to return the next day.
I can already see the next Game Theory video:
"Using femboy Ralsei and Japanese grammar to reveal Deltarune's ending"
@@pablopereyra7126 Lmao.
I heard that Chara’s name also appears in the beginning when you put Japanese
@@RikuMcduck "I am Chara, the demon that comes when people call it's name". We've made a mistake.
@@sayyidassons9332 wdym?
Something I noticed is that the first couple lines of Don't Forget line up pretty much perfectly with the first couple sentences of the prophecy for the Roaring.
(When the light is running low)
[When the LIGHT is subsumed by SHADOW]
(And the shadows start to grow)
[When the FOUNTAINS fill the sky]
And to an extent:
(And the places that you know seem like fantasy)
[All will fall into CHAOS]
Interesting,
I initially thought after beating chapter 2 that the third line referee to convincing Noelle that the dark world was but a dream.
YES!!! THIS!!!
I think the third line is in reference to how all the dark worlds have a fantasy element, helping the lightners to emotionally develop and overcome their mental struggles.
there's a light inside your soul could probably refer to the heros thing
"Mom can we have Don't Forget?"
"We have Don't Forget at home."
Don't Forget at home: 3:15
Can confirm this cover was produced at home
@@saltiimoth can confirm
Nah nah that's regular mettaton doing a cover of it
To be honest, I kind of always thought it was _us._ We're with Kris in the dark, are we not? It feels like we're comforting Kris. "There's a light inside your soul that's still shining in the cold"- that's us, talking about us. We're reassuring Kris that we'll be with Kris as long as they need. Also aligns with how Jevil's theme features the song heavily- because Jevil is so meta, he knows of us. It's like he's mocking us, telling us he knows.
1 month later boost, because this feels like a really good theory
Immediate bump, this is a good one, I trust.
Or there's another entity inside the soul with us
“And the places that you know seem like fantasy” seems like it’s referring to the dark worlds. When that is followed by “ There’s a light inside your soul, that’s still shining in the cold” I think that’s supposed to refer to using our power to seal the fountains.
Hmm speaking of Jevil,, :]
There's an (unofficial) THE WORLD REVOLVING with lyrics by MOTI (aka Man On The Internet) and it has its own spin of the lyrics of Don't forget!
"When the light is running low, and the shadows start to grow!"
"And the places that you know, cut away the afterglow!"
"There's a light inside your soul...SLOWLY SHRINKING IN THE COLD!"
"From the truth deep down you know...and yet DARKER we will go.."
"Can't you see? YOUR WORLD IS A FANTASY!!!"
It took me couple of years to notice that's a fun take on the lyrics from Jevil's perspective :D
I have absolutely no clue if this will bear fruit, but I can't help but notice that "don't forget, i'm with you in the dark" could sound incredibly sinister if spoken by the wrong person. And it's that part of the motif that plays when you seal the dark fountains.
You're my absolute favorite UT/DR theorist. Your editing style and humor absolutely shine through the TTS. Keep up the good work and can't wait for the next one!
“You whispered Noelle’s name,” and suddenly she is already beside you as if she never left.
That and the fact that you can spy on Susie from anywhere and command your party seemingly telepathically seems to show that the soul can be with anyone in the dark (but only in the dark).
I've always seen it as either Ralsei or Asriel. For a storytelling perspective, it would make sense and fit into the narrative. Now, for an Undertale perspective... It definitely usually seeks to break the expectations, so I don't know.
Idk like the singer is a women, and ralsei is supposed to be a prince, and I don’t think ralsei sounds THAT feminine.
@@OasisTrain I don't think that's supposed to be Ralsei's voice at all. Just a representation of it.
I always thought that who was singing was ralsei but now that i think about it it could be asriel too. But i think that asriel is ralsei they look the same and the name asriel has the same letters of the name ralsei. I think that ralsei is asriel stuck in the dark world.
Oh hey Rick! I didn't thought you would be so interested on Deltarune theories!
......I always thought it was _us._ It seems pretty obvious to me, it's us, singing a comforting lullaby to Kris. The light inside their SOUL is _us, we're_ with Kris in the dark. I don't get why this was never mentioned in the video, because doesn't it sound like the most logical answer? It's the player, singing a song of love to Kris.
The amount of effort in these videos is crazy. The Japanese speculation has opened a totally new world for me!! Great work as always ❤♠❤♠
How about the official Deltarune Line sticker that has Ralei singing "Don't forget"?
Oh! I didn't even think to check those. I wonder what the 'promise in our hearts' is then.
Ralei my beloved
@@HalfBreadChaos
Maybe his promise to help lighters?
Didn't know he had a woman voice lamo
@@TheRealSuperKirby rasl our beloved
Considering Dess’s disappearance I always thought she sung Don’t Forget
Considering Kris’s role it’s be weird to have Chara have a presence in Deltarune
I just got that idea when watching this video but you beat me to commenting about it by about 4 hours.
Yeah, Chara’s inclusion would be redundant and a poor twist.
A theory I share is that Kris, Dess and maybe Asriel and Noelle fell into a dark world before, and had to fight their way out, only Dess either fell or fell behind. Perhaps this song could be a promise is between them, “if you become lost, stay determined, and ill find you”
I agree
What interests me most is the subject of the piece - the singer could be anyone and Laura's performance might even just be a "cover" and not the voice of the original speaker. But who is being spoken to? More on that later.
Spamton says to Kris, "you're lightner, you've got the light... why don't you show it off?" He also mentions wanting the HeartShapedObject just before this. If "there's a light inside your soul," then together this means that lightners uniquely possess some kind of light, and it's an attribute of or a power within the SOUL. Spamton needs the SOUL to "see past the dark and stare into H E A V E N", presumably also by the light within that heart. Dark Fountains are also blasted away in a burst of light from the SOUL, while a Don't Forget riff plays. Save points, too, are described as "a light that only you can see", and they fill you with "certain powers".
But, what else is a certain power "that all lightners possess"? Oh no. It's the Determination question. Because it could be that "the light" is determination - the power in Deltarune to create Dark Worlds and what was the SAVE power at least in Undertale. If so, determination is also the power to destroy or leave Dark Worlds. But it could also be that determination is a power opposite or beside the light - the creative, escapist power of Dark vs. the saving, reality-checking power of Light.
Either way, it seems that while "light inside your soul" should be an obvious reference to Kris or the player, it could still be talking to any lightner - they all got the light. Since it's "still shining in the cold", yeah that seems to be about the Holidays. Can't say exactly if Dess sung to Noelle or Noelle to her, or either to Kris, or... But I'd guess that the song will have a poetic or cathartic ring to it - that it was just a childhood lullaby once for one person but by the story's end it means more and applies to many people.
There's no agreed-upon gender neutral voice because none exists in reality; trying to craft one out of other real voices will inevitably sound like a highish man's, a lowish woman's, or from someone whose face has been turned into a robot one.
hey chaos, i appreciate you responding to my last comment. normally people just say like "yea sure whatever"
but you responded with a bunch of questions that made me actually have to think deeper. so yeah thanks, life was getting kinda boring without any mental challenges.
Oh! No problem, haha. I love to debate and consider different perspectives but I'm always worried when I respond to people that I'm going to make people feel attacked, so it's relieving when I get an audience that enjoys the discussion.
@@HalfBreadChaos yea man it's cool, and i look forward to your next video.
@@HalfBreadChaos do you think you could look at chapter 2's ending theme. it sounds all cut up anytime i listen to it. it seems like there's something worth looking into
21:38 when listening to this while in another tab, I immediately thought of Ralsei in the hood as like, within a city lmao, I forgot that he wears a literal hood for a minute
honestly so so glad that i found this channel and that you’re growing!!! this is literally the only channel on youtube that actually brings something new to the theorycrafting table, covering things some didn’t even know about! meanwhile others put clickbait titles on their vids and then explain to you who gaster followers are.. for 10 minutes.. and then “oh but what if CHARA? IS GASTER BEHIND TREE??” like yes janet WE KNOW.
sorry, just had to get this off my chest. Incredible stuff as always, HBC!
It really shows how much effort you put in these videos! They are so polished, and getting better and better.
Hey so, I haven’t seen any/many people talk about this so I’m going to:
The background of the Goner Maker sequence, that almost watery looking stuff, has the same or a very similar texture to that of the Fountains. Are we in a fountain at the beginning of the game? Or am I off base?
Also the thing behind the figure when you put smile_og into a spectrogram looks like a fountain.
I have this crazy theory that the Titans that Ralsei mentioned are Players, which would make us, in-universe, also a Titan that potentially doesn’t realize they are the same thing Ralsei was talking about.
Along with what you said, the Titans’ “faces” are giant SAVE points, a power that the Player ultimately has absolute control over in any video game/universe.
@@TheRealSuperKirby Yup. Specifically the appearance that a fountain takes when you're close o it inside of a Dark World - a jagged, almost prismatic figure.
Or that snowgrave is a anagram for wrongsave.
In an undertale iceberg video, i saw some stickers that toby uses. One of them was referring to snowgrave route before it even came out, other one was ralsei singing "dont forget".
Can I just say your little animations with the goners smacking Gaster like a feral cat jumping into your room uninvited is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen???
ralsei explaining the roaring is a little similar to the song's lyrics
"when the light is subsumed by shadow"
"when the light is running low"
pretty similar. it could be a coincidence though.
i think it's ralsei, because he is with you in the dark, and not the light, and asriel is in college, he isn't with us,
Dess is a possibility I think about a lot. Her mysterious disappearance was probably traumatizing for Noelle. And we know from evidence that Noelle tends to repress traumatic memories. If you keep that in mind, the line “Don’t Forget, I’m with you in the dark” has another impact. This could very well be Dess telling Noelle to remember her, or remember what happened “in the dark”
(Perhaps when they went exploring in the graveyard at night - hence, in the dark)
Some other lines can be explained just by them being siblings.
“The promise in our hearts”
Perhaps Dess and Noelle promised eachother something? Maybe something Noelle needs to remember?
“There’s a light inside your soul that’s still shining in the cold”
‘In the cold’ is pretty easy to tie to the Noelle (or just the Holiday family in general)
The light inside your soul portion is a little harder. Dess could be reminding Noelle of her inner hope/determination? Noelle is seen being easily manipulated and conditioned to a role of obedience and servitude. Perhaps Dess is remindering her of her own identity/individuality? “The light inside your soul” could be a reminder to Noelle that she’s her own person, she has her own light.
This is all very vague connections, and there’s a large possibly im wrong. Feel free to correct me on anything 😁
So, what your saying is, ralsei is the monika of deltarune
Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei Just Ralsei
2 things:
1. Glad to see the "In the genocide run, CHARA isn't the villain, you, the player, are." Theory taking off.
2. I've always assumed that Don't Forget is a memory of a slightly younger Asriel reassuring Kris as they're going through their implied depressed phase as a younger child.
Ew chara isn't the villain? Both are at fault :P
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This is the theory I'm talking about, and there's a followup that they did to it. Check it out, even if you disagree, it provides an interesting alternative perspective.
@@gmalamat1393 Chara was corrupted by you, you manipulated them
@@dakota6050 We don't really manipulate Chara, he chose to be a world ending psychopath all we did is influence them. And even then its implied that Chara wasn't a good person and leans towards the side of bad rather than good.
lollmfao calls chara a he
I always felt like the don't forget lyrics felt kinda creepy
There could easily be a "Dark Reprise" version of it in the future.
Don't forget; I'm with you in the dark... =)
Your a weirdo
Honestly, I love the singing robot voice near the beginning, it tickles my brain in the best way.
My patrons keep making amazing music and then claiming they're bad at it and have no talent. XD I hope if I keep forwarding comments like this they'll have the same experience I did, of realizing that even if "I" think my stuff is bad, that doesn't mean other people don't enjoy it.
Yes!! I absolutely love this theory. I thought immediately after you explained the Asriel thing, "well, clearly this must be Ralsei singing then, right?" if only because of how much it seems Toby Fox is trying to connect the two.
I just smile when I see a new video posted by you thanks for the great content
You outdid yourself with the editing this time, and i love the "usual suspects" thumbnail, tho it would fit better for a video about who's the Knight imo
Regarding Chara, I used to strongly believe she was involved, but now that we got ch2 and the alarm clock... I'm not so certain anymore, even with the japanese pronouns stuff. Like you said, sans Can change founts, so there's no reason the Doctor wouldn't be able to do the same. Does sans uses different japanese "you" when he's not talking in comic sans ? What kind of "You" IS used at the end of ENTRY NUMBER 17 ?
What if this song was actually our theme ? Like, the player's theme ? What if WE are the "light inside the soul" ? Idk I think the lyrics could make sense from this perspective aswell...
Also, i'd like to point out that coldness is often associated with Darkness and the absence of Determination in Undertale, so maybe that's what the song is refering to Because yeah Ch2's weird route was about freezing ennemies, but i doubt that future weird routes will involve ice. I'm fairly certain that ch3's weird route will not feature snowgrave. It's more likely that we'll get something like idk "Fire storm" or smth so i don't think that Noëlle is the one with us in the dark
Also, do you plan on making a video about "The Bunker Incident" theory ?
The 'you' in entry 17... Oh! Good question! I forgot that the words are still Japanese, even if the wingdings make it romanji (Japanese words in English letters).
Kimi-tachi. (So the plural 'kimi'). Whelp I guess I know what the Maus-Trap video is going to be about.
This is the video that got me hooked to this channel! It's still a good theory and should be discussed more! Thank you Half Bread for all your theories, I love them and I hope you have more theories to share!
Ok about Berdly:
He goes through the beginning of a character development prechapter 1, due to he not wanting to cause danger to Noelle but needing the knowledge she has to keep up a façade despite knowing it is wrong. We also know that he and Noelle talk about more casual things like games, due to a comment via Rudy in chapter 2's weird route.
During chapter 1 interactions we see very little shift in this if at all.
At the beginning of chapter 2 we see him try to prevent Noelle from needing to trouble herself with having to read out loud a segment of a story, a story that is suggested at this time to imply a dark future for Rudy and Noelle, which considering what Rudy is going through right now and how it would be difficult at first to properly vocalize the story when you are more shy and soft-spoken, in a segment when it would be seen as Berdly being rude it could actually be him showing a large degree of caring for Noelle.
At the end of chapter 2 he admits his shortcomings to people he was nervous with, causing him to initially take a "I am me so I am good!" look due to our perspective, but we could tell the true source of his reasoning is for Noelle's safety and care, even if it is entirely misguided and leads to him being "Fallen down" in the weird route due to his immediate reaction of Noelle's new perspective and the fact you would need to trick him to get him to hurt Noelle. While we commonly portray nervousness as trying to be shy, a less explained one is trying to out-show the person in question for they are actually trying to show that they are decent and good, even if their methods are wrong, ie: Berdly throughout the entirety of the story so far. Anyways, Berdly admits his failures to Kris Susie and Ralsei, and then afterwards seems to act less stuck up, which could be that he is less nervous at the end of the story. Due to the fact that he and Noelle can act casually we know that he had likely already explained his situation to her and she is going along, which is entirely in her character to do so.
TLDR: he went through a minor character shift, but we are able to notice it because he is less nervous with Kris and Susie due to his less stuck up attitude, meaning that at the end of Chapter 2 we helped 2 characters be less nervous, both basically showing one of the two forms of nervousness. Also we help 1 character be more friendly in Chapter 1 so that might be a trope that happens should we stick to the "Normal" routes.
I think the genius of this song is that it can be be applied to different characters with different contexts without changing the lyrics, and that it was actually intended for all of them.
HalfBreadChaos is so kind, thoughtful, intelligent, and creative. I love each and every one of these videos.
Easily the best DR content I've been consuming over the past while. Good stuff
"...basicaly dont be a berdly."
my berdly kinnie deadass fucking crying myself to sleep over here
I actually really like the Text to speech you use. It gives this channel a personality of sort.
When you’re a theorist, it’s like anime on another level, but 5 parallel universes ahead of anime.
I remember seeing a comic that portrayed Ralsei as the singer and Asriel as the song writer who used to sing it to kris when they were younger to calm kris down. I love that idea.
I think that Ralsei is fully aware of 4th wall stuff but there's absolutely nothing malicious about him. Not a single thing. I say this specifically about the part where you say he's prioritizing the player's over Kris's feelings - parenthesized text indicates someone's thoughts (see a ton of snowgrave Noelle interactions), so I think Ralsei is attributing the decision to Kris and going along with it. Also, if he prioritized the player so much, I don't think we would see him going behind the player's back to explain things to Kris.
on the topic, I think the way he avoids things and says to just not think about it too hard is his own coping mechanism or w/e offered in good faith - something you'd probably need with the kind of knowledge he has.
I can't put my finger on why, but I really feel like Kris is the singer of Don't Forget. Remember their piano performances?
I wanna say that anyone can use any pronoun, so referring to yourself can change depending on the mood you want to communicate (although more commonly influenced by the social situation). However knowing Toby he clearly likes being deliberate about that sort of thing so I'm assuming he's thinking along the same lines you are, and the 1st/2nd pronouns are intentionally character specific. I literally didn't notice at all the difference in Kanji usage between light/dark worlds when I played, I just mindlessly thought sometimes the translators decided not to use kanji here and there, lmao I'm a genius I tell ya
the sheer amount of effort put into these videos is amazing
Another excellent video, I love how thorough you are with your analysis, keep up the good work!
At the very end of Don't Forget, while Laura Shigihara sings the word "dark", the first three notes of Gaster's Theme, transposed up by two semitones (B, C, G), plays. It's even played on a piano, the same instrument used in Gaster's Theme.
so the thing is, in music "君(kimi)" is actually very typical even if you'd normally use something else, so in fact the use of "私(watashi)" is actually more interesting because in music for the first person you would normally use "僕(boku)" even if you usually use something else
You care so much about others, with all the disclaimers and stuff. I'm subscribing.
EDIT: Also, I personally think Ralsei is singing it.
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he was "shattered across" time an space
maybe there's multiple pieces to him
Even when the lil windup robot sings, this song still brings me to tears. It feels intrinsically beautiful.
Stop harassing Berdly, he's literally my top-3 favorite character :D
I totally agree on Ralsei knowing about the player and caring more about them than Kris. There was a lot to pick up from, even without knowing Japanese! I actually think that he mostly expected the player, not the fun gang, that's why he was so happy and motivated in Ch 1. During Ch 2 he starts doubting himself a bit and trying to think out of the box.
So, what I presume his arc is going to be, learning true friendship. He bonded with Susie already. If he has to choose: Kris or the Player, who will he choose? Or will he be so helpless, he'd ask the Player directly? Does he choose a friend or us?
dude i absolutely love how much effort you put in each video.
I was waiting in excitement for the next video! 😃 I just love them so much! 😁 Keep it up!!! 😆
XD ty, I appreciate the enthusiasm even if my mind still struggles to comprehend it.
I missed your videos! it hasn't been THAT long ago since you posted but still! can't wait to watch this when I'm finished studying
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1-Those are Asriel's memories
Temmie refers to this scene as "When Asriel regains his memories" and the game files call it "Room_asrielmemory.xml"
2-The memory we get at Waterfalls is also likely Asriel's. in Waterfall Asriel's statue plays the song "Memory" which has the same leitmotif as "His theme"
We also get this memory after falling into a bed of golden flowers, which have Asriel's dust/essence in them
I don't have any smart theory stuff to add, but I laughed so much during this vid, and the way you organize information continues to make it both easy and fun to follow along without ever feeling lost! Thank you for all of your hard work!
"Brooms cannot keep him at bay forever" had me dying
No really
Get well soon
-Tree
I think that maybe "Don't forget" was a song that Asriel or Dess sang to Kris or Noelle when they had nightmares or trouble sleeping
"When the light is running low
And the shadows start to grow
And the places that you know
Feel like fantasy"
"Feel like fantasy" is probabily referring to dreaming the places you know, and "When the shadows start to grow" might be referring to nightmares or fear in general
Hello HalfBreadChaos! I have no idea whether you will read this, but I just want to let you know that your content is amazing! The amount of research you do and the way you convey that research in a way that is relatively easy to follow despite the complexity of the subject matter is incredible. You always capture my attention with these videos and I enjoy them all immensely. Another aspect I want to praise is your "color commentary" from all the different deltarune characters throughout the video. All of the characters remain true to their personalities and I love all the little nods to them in your script. I read every single one of these and love these additions. Thank you for what you do!
* The sight of someone genuinely excited about your weird little videos fills you with Determination.
This channel is so happy and nice and comforting and just generally positive energy, thank you so much for this gift of your happy viddies.
This channel is like the most literal kind of Positive Feedback loop, in which the comments are filled with positivity and then I say, "thank you all so much," and then I get more positivity?
Is this what the [hyperlink blocked] is?? I could see how someone could go through withdrawal if you suddenly cut them off from this.
Since I've already given you all my [heart shaped object] I guess my new goal in life is to avoid the Spamton fate of [crying alone in a dumpster]
You’re a lovely person, HalfBreadChaos, and your fans will come rescue you from your dumpster-dwelling whenever you need. But truly, I’ve been having a really tough time recently, and just the general positive vibes from your channel have been keeping me afloat in my mental health situation. :)
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Our fate rests upon you, @HalfBreadChaos ! You too stay determined!
I have only one question in mind: What about seam's use of japanese (if it is same with gaster than I think that might be very very interesting)
Good question.
Seam uses all three writing systems (hirigana, katakana, kanji) while Gaster avoids hirigana completely.
Seam's 'I' pronoun is 'atashi' (here it implies age) and 'you' pronoun is "antara,' (highly informal).
That's a tense contrast to Gaster's formal 'wareware" and 'anata.'
Super excited for this video! Will probably comment more later! Thanks for uploading!
that singing robot deserves some sort of prestigious award.
The humor and style on this channel are just *chef's kiss*
I’m most drawn to the idea that the singer is either Asriel or Dess because the song has big big sibling energy. Was firmly covenced it was Asriel since the first verse works so well as him trying to reassure Kris after a nightmare that his big bro is literally in the same room as him. My theory is now more on Dess given her disappearance and the possibly of her being trapped in the dark in someway. But I like the idea that Asriel and Dess created the song together to comfort Kris and Noelle.
My theory is that Toreil is singing while Kris plays the piano, because Kris can play the piano. Or Toreil is just singing Kris a lullaby, a memory when they were younger.
I don't think it's Chara reminding us of our pact, being as not everyone did a no mercy run. And as a sequel it wouldn't make sense to say that you, the player, did something that you didn't do
Well, You Can Play Chapter 2 Without Playing Chapter 1, Meaning That You Play After Someone Elses Choises
I always think of it like its toriel singing kris a lullaby
I like to think that its Toriel, even though she's not with us in the Dark World, she is very close to Kris because... Do i even have to explain? She's Kris's mother.
Just to get one thing straight, I don’t think Toby would ever create the game with the assumption that the player has completed or even knows about Undertale’s genocide run. So the implication that it’s Chara as depicted in the genocide run is probably out.
Woah that's an interesting theory as always. I love the entire videos, the effects, the text to speech, the gags, the jokes and i know... making personal audio its really hard but don't worry we're humans with power of Determination after all... Continue in this way. :D Maybe Gaster comes in the future chapter? Anyway you made a really good job and work. ;)
Tbh, I believe that the song isn’t directed at us, the player.
Instead, I think that we the player, are talking to Kris. Telling them that we are literally with them in the dark.
There’s prolly more evidence that disproves this though, just a neat idea that could even further build the character relationship between Kris and the player
might be
In another way, the song could be sung by Dess to Noelle. Maybe a lullaby for Noelle to feel safe when she’s alone? Or maybe it’s a hint for Noelle to look for her sister in the dark world, but I’m not sure. Tell me what you think
I think it’s both. Like a double meaning thing. Maybe at first it was a comforting lullaby but then Dess got lost and is trying to tell Noelle where she is?
Binging all your content while shiny hunting is such a great feeling. Wish me luck!!!
I Believe That the Song could Just represent the whole Story as Witze "the places That you know Seem Like Fantasy" but if I would have to choose I'd choose Toriel. Thus Song seems Like a lullaby That she would sing Asriel and Kris to sleep with
The humor in this was on point but it was still an educational experience
I feel the necessity of pointing out that in the FAQ section of Chapter 1 Toby Makes it REALLY clear that Deltarune is a "Different World" than Undertale, Normally I would think this means that Deltarune and Undertale are 2 totally disconnected stories, but I feel that It is really Strange that he says that they are "Different Worlds" multiple times, expecially knowing Chara's Dialogue in the Genocide Route "Let us erase this pointless world, and move on to the next.". I feel like Toby would know about the infinite amount of Undertale AU's (Alternate Universes) and try to market Deltarune as an AU to separete the story from the OG seeing that he make's it clear in the post that Deltarune has "different characters, that have lived different lives." But he sticks to "Different Worlds". I can't think of how this could Help in a Theory and it probably doesn't but i feel like there isn't people thinking about this
that vagueness leaves the possibillity _alternate timeline_ open
DUDE THATS SO COOL
I've been so swept up in UT AUs that I forgot how bomb the theories are!!! Thank you for bringing them back to me!!
I love all the time you put into your vid’s like damn you put so much love into these I rewatch all of them when I’m bored (PS I have made a little something for you on my channel)
Woah! I think this is my first piece of fan-art?
*mind is blown*
I sincerely thank you for the colored symbols! As someone with colorblindness, that really helps!
Thanks for convincing me Berdly is the mastermind of Deltarune
This is like a training VHS tape and I love it, keep this content going buddy 👍
I don't think "don't be a berdly" is just. He just wanted to be remembered, not just a forgettable little bluebird. Now your insulting him.
EDIT: Thanks for forgiving him at the end
The “st” in “st_him” means “sound test” because Gasters theme plays in the sound test room
I don't seem to be making it to every video anymore, but not doing so's a big mistake! Somehow, in the short time the chapter's been out, you've not only started decent by covering more than most others, but exponentially improve your presentation. The only channel I recall using sprites like this was Underlab, but you quickly found good ways to integrate them into everything in a way that feels more genuine. There's no moment where nothing on the screen neither helps your points or presents in-universe jokes, and the consistency's a rare treasure! Admittedly, the text to speech is at times a little dry, but changing it now would be worse than continuing to use it.
While I don't quite understand the statement about how the music box is powered (the water seems to be interfering with it rather than anything else), there seems to always be more about it unacknowledged. It does share the his theme leitmotif, but is much bigger in figure than any boss monster besides Asgore. I see it as a symbol of protection, as it/he overlooks and possibly shields the smaller figures.
Ah fair, the flavor text says "the structure at it's feet seems dry." When you put the umbrella over it, it changes the flow of water so that the mechanism can run again.
:D But yeah, glad to hear you're digging the changes. I always worry when I change things, but experimentation is the fastest way to improve, even if it's also the riskiest.
"In the short time the chapter's been out" it's been out for 6 months at this point, chief
@@melodymcdaniel9268 I don't have a better benchmark, and either way that's impressive for skill development.
I think it's 𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 interesting that the song uses kanji, and says "I'm with you in the dark" and the game proceeds to also have all characters within a dark world speak with kanji
it is quite intriging
In the comic paper trail ( a wonderful fan comic btw) they say the song is sung by asreil, comforting Kris when he has an episode. It is very sweet, and the comic hits you hard with it. It has now become my head canon till Toby fox tells us what it means.
There is a group of deltarune line stickers, and one of them is ralsei singing don't forget. So until new evidence is dropped it's safe to say it's ralsei.
They also foreshadowed snowgrave so these stickers are important.
Toby posted on his Twitter that if you get copyright claimed when using deltarune/undertale music, you should dispute it.
I love these videos so much. Some of the highlights quality compilation and presentation of Evidence I’ve seen on this game. also some great editing and theorywork!
obviously it's no holds bard, there's a sunflower in that group, and we all know sunflower as laura shigihara sung zombies in our lawn, the same person who sung don't forget. additionally she also created the game rakuen, where no holds bars comes from.
Your editing gets better every video.
I hope we get *something* this year in terms of a release date. We're clearly going insane.
st him sounds like "satan"
Gaster has a uncanny amount of references to the devil. Honestly I think that's the sole reason most people think of him as a sinister entity.
The song MAKES ME UNEASY. It's not meant to be comforting no matter how sweet the voice is, that much I'm sure of.
The struggle of finding a genderneutral voice got very relatable there
Hey, I recently saw a theory video from Jaru Jaru J called what is Ralsei that is extremely well made and potentially offers some context for the possibility of the song being sung by Asriel in a metaphorical sense. (If the song is not genuinely being sung directly from a character) They don't directly mention the song in the video, but I think that the theory ties up a lot of questions that the Fandom has, and offers some potentially suggestive evidennce for Asriel as the solution to this particular question. I loved the editing in this video, and I hope you have a good day
late to be talking in a video that's almost a year old, but i also use tts stuff as well! so cool and awesome to see someone like u ..
I have an extra candidate for the singer. What if the singer is kris? Kris is certainly with us in the dark, and it's important to remember that we aren't kris, they are a separate person. The song ends with "I'm with you in the dark" not, I'm with kris in the dark. I couldnt help but notice that the line "with the truth, the promise in our hearts" says OUR hearts, not my heart or your heart, kris shares a heart with us. Also, we dont really know how kris talks, so we cant count them out that way, and it would explain why its different than most characters. Also, we know from the spamton sweepstakes that kris is musically adept, as they play piano quite well, so it would be reasonable to assume that kris could sing, and might enjoy singing alone at the end of each chapter. I feel like I had something else to add to this but I forgot.
it says hearts plural