WHY people like the Sony A7cii…
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Which would you choose? A7cii, A7iv, OR LUMIX S5ii?? Let me know your thoughts 👇🎥
Lumix all the way. Even got meself a G9 ii to pair with my s5 iix :D
An L-mount in a rangefinder formfactor!
The S5c 😅
S5mk2 the best😛
ZV E1?
I just wish all camera brands would start calling their camera models "Bob" or "Sausage" at this point. Seeing the all the a7iviiii2X stuff makes my head hurt haha i cant keep up!
I would love to see this. Imagine, the new Sony a7 Sausage, or even the Fujifilm XH Felafel. Nikon Z Nugget. Canon R Carrot
Or name them like cities, and introducee them in that cities. Lumix s1 Vienna or Lumix s5 Seattle
😂😂😂 imagine in 10 years time… Sony A7c13964
I’d buy the R Carrot any day
I feel the same way. My coworker is a Sony boy and I have to constantly ask him to clarify which camera he’s talking about. 😂
I really like your videos. You give people the exact information they need. I never found myself fastforwarding like I do with some other youtubers.
Thank you so much 🤩🙏🏻🎥 I’m pleased you enjoy them!
Due to Sony’s new AI chip gives these cameras improved & the best skin tones because of better AWB. These bodies are the a7RV, ZV-E1, a7cii, a7cr and new a9iii. The a7cii is the perfect everyday, travel or street camera. I have my a7RV for my pro work and looking at the a7cii for everyday, etc.
"Respectfully, it seems the reviewer may be underestimating the professionalism of the Sony A7CII. Contrary to the suggestion of having less dynamic range compared to the A7IV, experts like Gerald Undone have highlighted its capabilities. Exploring these aspects further could provide a more accurate portrayal of its strengths.
He’s right. I have the A74 and A7cii and the dynamic range and lowlight is DEFINITELY worse on the A7Cii. Sony or any reviewer can say what they want but it’s NOT the same!
I hope Lumix makes a competitor, Sony glass doesn't inspire me for video personally, but the Rangefinder design is compelling for an EDC
Completely agree! That would be my dream camera, as I love the S5II, but it’s a just too big to bring a long on most casual situations
I’d love a mini lumix camera 🤩🎥
It’s really hard to not to just go for the A7iv as there doesn’t seem much of a size difference.
Some good deals on the s5ii right now as well, Am I mad to get one despite mostly owning Sonys?
I had the A7S III and A7C as a duo for nearly 3 years, loved the two together - the A7C would overheat in long 4K takes but still very reliable
Hey George. Ah that’s a shame about the overheating. What do you think to the mark 2?
Haven't had any hands-on yet, I ended up getting an A6700 because of the grip and some smaller e mount lenses for street photos - so have a mixed FF and APS-C combo at the mo!@@SamHolland
I agonized over the same issue! Had the A7Siii and the original A7c as my B camera for a year. All good except that big camera is 10 bit and the a7C is only 8 bit and missing the front aperture dial, so I took the plunge and got the A7cii to get those 2 things as well as a newer faster processor, 33mp and the new AI chip and super glad I upgraded as it is a great hybrid camera. It more closely matches my A7Siii on 2 camera shoots and it doesn’t overheat! Almost got the a6700 but wanted to stay FF obviously and that model also has overheating issues on long-form 4K video
How often do memory cards fail? I’ve never had a card get corrupted.
not often. but when it happens. it’s crap. hence, as a pro photographer. you should have that. think about it as like insurance. how likely you are going to have a fire in your house, or burglary or a car accident.
-been shooting for over 15 years, from weddings to long exposure and nearly anything in the middle, never had a memory card. corrupted. Imagine photographers before digital.
I'm surprise that the two cameras don't have the same image quality and dynamic range although they share the same 33 Megapixel sensor
Yeh. Looks totally different. Clearly not the same. Always try before you buy 🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland I have the same question. Clearly both cameras SHOULD be capable of having the same image quality and dynamic range, being that they have the same sensor.
good comparison video with the s5 mk II reading up in the a7c mk II informative content Thanks Sam.
Thanks John. What do you think to the camera? 🎥
Which lens are vlogging on please answer I've asked multiple times
Highly recommend THAT course of Sams - Canon do have that nice range you where talking about Sam but - If I actually do decide to swap from my Canon's then it would have to be Lumix all the way - but this does look nice !
Thanks Hieth. I’m pleased you got value from the workshop. Yeh Lumix crew 💪🏻🎥
It's the same sensor. How is the dynamic range different? Is this a software issue?
He’s for sure wrong on that. More resolution, newer faster processor, better autofocus than the older A7IV and an AI chip so there’s a lot he missed!
Can u do a video on what lens I should get for the s5iix if I want to shoot short film. I was thinking the 35mm Panasonic S series but I have no clue I need some enlightenment
This is perfect timing! I’m actually working on this video right now for January 🙏🏻🎥🤩
I guess to help now… what style are you going for and what subjects will you be filming?
@@SamHolland hi Sam! That’s awesome, mommy style I like to compare to Robert Richardson, his cinematography is unique and I’m looking to get that sort of style. But I’m looking for the best lens that is worth the money
I mean I could def do payed work with this camera so idk how it isn’t technically professional lol. With 10 bit 422 video and 33 mp camera I mean your pretty dang covered on most all solo work . I literally could take this camera an a 40mm g lens out and do most anything
Will the new 50 1.4 GM be front heavy on the a7cii?
Sony user with a7cii, but now I'm considering the s5iix 😆 Shooting video podcast and want full-frame, without worrying about overheating, with great colors sooc. Love Sony quality and more familiar with it, but the Lumix has really nice video, and the only other option that's FF with fan is FX3 for 2x the cost and have the resolution.
Skin tones is white balance, you also have 3 different modes for auto white balance. Easy to fix in post with wheels
Not so true. Yes you can fix but who wants to mess about with that when creating so much content. We want it to look nice straight out of camera like the OG cinema cameras 🤩🎥 thanks for watching and commenting
Thank you for this video. I understand that this has the same sensor as the a7iv, but in the video you mentioned that the a7iv has better dynamic range sng and highlight protection. Why would this be the case? Does that apply to photos as well?
Hi. Yes it looks very different. I’m not very technical so I don’t understand why exactly but as you can see, the two are very different 🎥
Thank you for the video. While not having two card slots or as good of a EVF as the A7IV you are the first reviewer who claims the dynamic range and colors of the A7CII are really different from the A7IV. I’ve owned both and I also do not see that. The other differences of the single curtain vs dual curtain mechanical shutter and 1/4000 vs 1/8000 shutter impact my stills shooting more than color difference or dynamic range. For me it’s a second or third camera and its small size is its best feature for travel. I use it along side my A1 and A7RV and I’m very happy with what it provides for stills work. Take care.
I agree, I have both the a7cii and the a7iv and don’t see the difference in colors.
@@miguelcruzonline Which camera do you find yourself naturally reaching for when heading out on a day shooting outdoors?
@@venturamediaqld the a7cii.
I understand the 2 card slots for a paying gig - I would use my A74 for my main this would be a second camera on the job, but as a lightweight for fun travel camera it really does the job. I don’t understand the comment about A74 having better dynamic range - how? It is the same sensor as the A7c ii - not close to, it is exactly the same.
proffesional work include not only camera slot but the working ethics and setting up always with back up cards and not rely on recording whole event in one card thats the part of being a proffesional photographer and videographer it seems not a big issue after all is always the mindset
I am not a pro and have not used dual card slots before (also never knew that it can save to both cards at the same time??). My question is have you or anyone had a moment that both cards failed at the same time? 🤔😀
Hi. Luckily… (touch wood) that’s never happened to me. Honestly, I only ever had 2 card corrupt errors. 1 was a micro SD card in a drone. And 2 it was a faulty card. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
I do wish LUMIX makes a “S5iiC”, I would compromise recording limits a less strong stabilization for a compact body, for travel, and days out. Absolutely love my S5II, but is just a bit too big (viewfinder) to bring along all the time
Yes!!!!!! 🤩🎥 I’d get one on pre order. I keep telling them 😋
Like a full frame GX9!
@@akyerit yup, exactly
I know exactly who the Sony a7cii is for..... ME! After owning many E.V.I.L cameras (electronic viewfinder interchangeable lens), I find this camera sits exactly between my tiny Sony NEX5n and my massive FX3 with it's pro like features.
How do you feel about Zve1 as traveling camera vs a7cII ? i am not committed to any system. Better dynamic range and stabilization matters to me
I haven’t tried that one yet. From what I’ve seen, it doesn’t have the image quality but it’s a decent option for just fun stuff. I like small cameras
@@SamHolland thanks for a quick response Sam . which lens would you recommend for compact full frame ?
My pleasure. What camera do you have and what type of stuff do you want to use it for?
@@SamHolland well i don’t have one currently. i looked into lumix S5 mark 2 as well. however L mount does not have many 3rd party lens. i am shop for a compact travel camera . i am considering ZVE1 with either tamron 20-40 f 2.8 or sigma 28 - 70 f2.8 . since both are lightweight lens.
@imranjafar3687 the 20-60 kit lens that comes with the Lumix S5 is a great option. They also have an 18mm prime which is nice but you won’t get the zoom that you’ll probably want if you’re travelling. Another option is the Lumix G9ii which have smaller lenses and a large range.
There are lots of options for third party lumix lenses such as Tamron and sigma. I hope this helps 🎥🙏🏻
You can design a camera with ten memory card slots. Number of memory card slots does not make a camera, professional. Profession lies in the photographer, not the camera. Sony is not in the business of making all the cameras to suite you. Find one that suits your need and go for it. Cameras are made for different use cases and different customer financial situation. I wonder why many youtubers want a 500Dollar cam to have features of a 5000usd cam. You want a small rav4 car but still you say its not professional because it cant carry 20 people, cant go 300mph, doesnt have 4WD. If your aim is to review this camera, start by telling who and for what is it made for. Then go to the features. Dont tell us this is not a pro camera. At least visit Sony design hq and do a research about why a particular model of camera is the way it is. I ddnt mean to speak ill, however your video is infoemative but kindly work on this issue if you have seen a point. I am your proud subscriber.
All I’m saying is at that price point, you’d expect to see that feature.
Should I sell my a7iv to upgrade my firmware aka a7cii? The new AI AF is tempting.
yeah but the trade offs like poor color, highlight protection and no double slots are worth more as a pro
@@craigman7262 is that for photo only or video as well? The poor color dynamic range
Nice vid man!
Thank you 🤩🎥🙏🏻
It's not a Pro camera. It's an attractive, portable FF camera for recreational shooters. Sony still needs to extend the range of compact G lenses for it (85 please) and that would really be something.
Glad I bought the S5II instead!
Isn't the A7s3 better though?
4:01 Danny's cute scene. 🤣🥰😍🤣🤣🤣 Oh Sam did you got haircut? 🤭
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I recently switched from Sony to Panasonic (s5ii), and that was partly because the S5ii was on a deal for £1300, and Sony just can't come close to that because the A7iiii is, what, £2300?
Oh!!! That was a great price! 😳
Lumix really is the best bang for buck!!!! 🎥 and the colours are just 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@SamHolland have you tried the S5II with Canon EF adapted lenses?
@amermeleitor I haven’t but @joshcameron has and he says the AF works great.
@@SamHollandYea too bad the Panasonic isn't as sexy as the Sony Body & lenses
Used the a7c in the Texas “heat” 85° couldn’t use it for more than 20 mins without overheating…. S5iix has never overheated
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Lumix all the way! 🎥
I don't believe that, I live in Amarillo, Texas and our summers are still pretty hot, using the og a7c i never had a problem with it overheating at the track during the summer days.
I don't care about compact size. All I wanted was a camera with the new ai chip and new features and stuff. But I guess I'll have to go with the A7IV without that stuff since it has better image quality and 2 card slots. I may upgrade to the A7V once it comes out.
they have the exact same sensor, so no, it doesnt have better image quality, they are the same
@@1laned it does.
Peeps bashing the “1 card slot” situation, but a different camera they praise the SSD recording… which also has no redundancy.
This is not a problem of any brand or camera, or any reviewer, just show how much of a bandwagon or bias there’s out there when “reviewing” cameras.
Same goes to those that bash “4k 60 cropped, but then go and praise Dynamic stabilization… which is almost the same amount of crop 😅
This camera tends to be warmer on the body especially for recording continuously , I don't use 4 K but only 1080 HD .... don't use memory card v60 because the camera tends to stop recording when it is hot .....
Oooo interesting 🎥
cool, my question made it into the video :)
🤩🤩 thank you for your question! 🎥
Original S5 for between 850 and $950. Much more better. :-)
Sadly the S5II has worse AF than an entry level Sony :( even with update
Been waiting for this!
🤩🤩🎉🎉🎥
Too much money for this body ....too much....but thanks for your point of view
Thank you 🤩🙏🏻🎥
So I liked the video but I think you're focusing too much on it not being 'pro'. As a professional photographer, I've picked one up recently and any commercial client work I shoot is all done tethered, so while it records to the only 1 SD it's also recording to my laptop. I appreciate you can't do that for a wedding but to say it's not a professional camera I think is maybe not looking deeper than an initial look and the general first glance most people see of it.
Thanks. It’s just not a beginner/intermediate price yanno what I mean? 🙏🏻🎥
This camera is overpriced at $2198 U.S. I'm sure the A7V when released will be around $2498 like the A7IV is currently. Personally I'd wait for the A7V if you can.
Ты стал Сонибоем? 😂
Haha No! 🙏🏻🎥
No Cinema camera has 2 card slots, give your heads a wobble. Not a professional camera? I've never had a card fail on cinema cameras or hybrids