Edit: I should have clarified in the video, I know these body designs are so you can look through the viewfinder with your right eye while ''surveying the scene'' - I am left eye dominant, therefore regardless of any camera design, I would always use my left eye to look through the viewfinder. My stronger eye is way more important than surveying the scene, and I have never shot in a way or style which has required me to keep one eye open anyway (but that's awesome if that works for you) - These points are just my personal real world experience, and that will not always align with how other people use / interact with cameras. But as I said originally below, my experience with the camera is genuine and I am not reading a spec sheet from my office, that is how I intend to make videos about stuff, rather than talking about anything anybody can read on a brands website. Plus as showcased in the video you can still ''survey the scene'' with your right eye if you wanted to because the camera is so small and for me personally, I still don't require that when it comes to taking photos. I would just simply prefer a central viewfinder, on any camera. But that's me lol. - Thanks for watching: (PS It's not a range finder, its an EVF simply positioned on the left hand side. Ok I'm done🤣.) End of edit. Genuine real world, possibly slightly weird (😂) pros and cons from somebody who has actually spent the last year using this camera (rather than somebody reading a spec sheet behind a desk)
First of all, I love this camera. My main camera is the A7RV, but the A7Cii makes me happy. I have a difference of opinion with you in many of your "gripes". The AF (program it to BBF and use tracking) is so good that you don't need the joystick to focus and re/compose (hell I don't even use it on my A7RV). About the EVF placement, it's a rangefinder and if you open your left eye at the same time, you can see subjects coming into your frame. I might also add that your nose clears it too LOL. Sony did a remarkable job with a compact FF camera. BTW, it has improved AF and colors to the A7IV, but if you (obviously) need dual card slots, center EVF and bigger grip than the A7IV is to way to go.
@@stkuj hey mate, thanks for watching! I absolutely love this camera to bits, my gripes are just stuff that don’t align with my way of shooting that’s all. And the A7IV solves those, but then the A7IV has cons the A7CII doesn’t lol. So it’s a give and take situation, everybody is different with what they do and don’t like about cameras. To clarify though, it is not a rangefinder. It just simply has a body designed like one. It’s an EVF on the left, which is not what makes a camera a range finder, and I keep seeing this misconception about the C line hahah. As I said in another reply, I’m left eye dominant, I use my left eye and can still see over the top of the camera with my right eye. Doesn’t matter how you hold or use this thing! 😂
I have been shooting with my A7Cii for about 7 months now. Its been nothing but great for me. I do automotive photography and it performs really well. ngl though with all this talk about the A7V coming out I do want that now but I will keep shooting with my A7Cii till at least 2026 before I get the Sony A7V. Really good video brother. Cheers.
@@TBills3000 hahaha I know how you feel as soon as I saw the rumours for that I was like here we go again 😂 the thing is most of the time they’re not worth upgrading to straight away and then by the time you have ran your current camera into the ground, there will be probably 2 more models to choose between, so it’s best to wait anyway! Appreciate it man thanks for watching!
Really great video mate! Hope you had a great trip! Looks like you got to some really cool spots! This was a camera I looked at before making the switch recently, it seems like such a great piece of kit! I think it compliments your setup and shooting style perfectly, especially paired with the A7iv 👌🏻📸
@@chrisharveyphotography thanks so much matey! It was a great little escape! You’re right it does indeed, shame about the mic situation but I wonder if I’d even have bothered using it for photo if it wasn’t for that 😂so possibly a happy accident hahaha!
I relate to that they’re not the most inspiring or fun cameras shall we say, but the problem is they’re so damn good at doing what you need to them to do the lack of friction makes them like a blacksmiths hammer! 😂 lovely area of Scotland up there!
It's actually called a joystick, mate... 😂 I must admit I thoroughly enjoyed using my A6000 back in the day so I can only imagine how good these are, especially given all the advancements over the years. Nicely done, mate. Some cracking images throughout as usual. The whole hot tub situation made me consider the idea of you filming your conclusion to this video in a random garden, I can't lie. 😂
@@matthewpatterson9184 you know if I didn’t clarify that they’d be comments kicking off about it 😂😂😂 - yeah it’s kind of mind boggling they’re managing to get this much into a small body now days, the new era of cameras again I guess! Hahaha just popped in to film the outro don’t mind me😂 nah it was just the cabin we had for a week!
A short question and I Feel you might be the best person to ask since you have used both. Have you used this as a dual camera setup with your A7IV and how did it fare? I am deciding between getting a second A7IV or this A7CII. I have been using the A7RIII/A9/A7IV for my personal and professional work, sometimes with a dual camera setup. For my personal street work and travel, I feel the smaller form factor is a huge plus especially with my 24/40mm 2.5G lenses. Thing is I remember using the A7IV + A6400 combo for a wedding once and it was a minor headache switching between form factors since the muscle memory is a little out of place. Not too sure if I would get the same headaches with the A7CII.
@@yumeyama4783 hi mate, yes I use them in conjunction with each other, the only differences between how the two cameras function is less custom buttons on the A7Cii, I have them set up exactly the same but my A74 has a couple of custom buttons i have to put into the FN menu on the A7Cii, which to be honest is no problem, it was annoying at first but now I just instantly know when I’m holding the A7Cii a couple of things are in the FN menu instead, pretty seamless duo other than that! Colours match flawlessly across photo and video
I currently own a Sony A6400 with a Tamron 28-75 G2 lens, which I use as a hobbyist. I really enjoy photography, though I rarely do videography. My main focus is on shooting people, buildings, and similar subjects. Would it be a good idea to upgrade to the A7C II, or should I stick with my current setup? How much of a difference do features like autofocus (AF), dynamic range, and IBIS (in-body image stabilization) make in photography? Or would it be better to invest in high-quality full-frame prime lenses (preferably third-party options)
@@fernandoloieshaslim4512 hi mate, I can’t tell anybody wether it’s a good idea to upgrade or not because it all depends on personal circumstances. The A6400 is an APSC camera though so if you wanted to make the jump to full frame cameras and start using full frame lenses as they’re intended to be used, that would be the biggest reason to swap to the A7Cii from your A6400 in my opinion. It’s a fantastic step up and well worth the cost of the camera but just remember the new features are nice to have but they won’t dramatically improve your photography just because your current camera doesn’t have them. You have most of the control over that not your camera 😁
@@distantmedia I see. Maybe I should consider adding more full-frame lenses. I'm just curious-do AF, IBIS, and dynamic range really have that much of an effect on a camera? Like you said, it all depends on how we control the camera rather than the camera itself. Thank you! Maybe I should use the camera body to its limits before upgrading it.
@ well they do but do you need them? What kind of photographer are you, and then ask yourself if you need the following. The more dynamic range a camera has the more detail it can capture, and the more you can pull out of your raw files giving you more flexibility when you shoot and edit. IBIS is only really a must for videography in my opinion, it does allow you to use slower shutter speeds and keep images sharp, but you can just use a tripod for that anyway. AF is a no brainer, the better the auto focus the faster and more accurately you’ll be able to shoot. Camera upgrading is never really going to be the wrong choice if you have the budget, you could upgrade and then invest in more lenses later, you could invest in lenses now and upgrade camera later. Just figure out what you need right now! (Keep in mind having loads of lenses isn’t all it’s made out to be, I only own two lenses and have done for 5+ years)
For my style of photography, I mainly focus on street photography and architectural photography. Occasionally, I also like to shoot in low-light conditions. However, when photographing in low light, I often struggle to capture sharp images. I’ve heard that full-frame camera bodies generally offer better noise control compared to APS-C cameras. Additionally, features like IBIS (In-Body Image Stabilization) and improved autofocus, such as those found in the Sony A7C II, can significantly enhance low-light performance. That’s why I’m considering switching to a full-frame camera. On the other hand, I’ve been thinking about investing in lenses first-perhaps a prime lens-to improve my low-light photography without immediately switching camera bodies. Another factor adding to my confusion is that the Sony A7C II is currently discounted in my country, from $2,200 to $1,600. Should I take advantage of this discount and go full-frame directly, or should I focus on upgrading to full-frame lenses for now? I’m not sure which choice would benefit me most.
yeah when used the right way it will enhance all areas of performance, not just the ones mentioned, because its just simply a much better camera with much higher specs across all areas. It wont directly make you a better photographer or guarantee you get the photos of your dreams of course, because that's just not what upgrading camera is about. But It sounds like you are going to want to upgrade eventually / soon anyway, so perhaps you should take that big discount in your country and secure the camera first and build up some lens choices as you continue using the camera. Your tamron lens is f2/8 which is already enough for most low light photography as a hobbiest anyway 😊 hope that helps!
How come u didn't get the bottom plate from smallrig, better handling with it, and also why you look through the viewfinder with the left eye???? i saw a video about it people are doing unwillingly wrong how they look through the range finder style cameras
Debated it but it makes the grip taller not wider, I don’t have a problem with the size of the camera all in all, and the whole point of them it that they’re smaller haha! I look through it with my left eye because I’m left eye dominant (aka much better vision in my left eye) - but regardless if you look through it with your right eye you’re still out of line with your lens and sensor, it’s not a range finder camera otherwise I might attempt to use my weaker eye! Hope that made sense haha
@@distantmedia yeah but you can se eif something is going to come into the frame if you use right eye, helps more for street photography when you wait for someone to come into the frame
@@strippedlist yeah yeah I know that, just not needed for me 😁 - if you own this camera look through it with your left eye, you can literally do the exact same thing with your right eye cause the body is so small (as shown in the video) Theres absolutely no wrong way to hold a camera haha, all personal preference and what feels best for you at the end of the day! Would take a central viewfinder any day of the week 😂
Cool venue, concise, ergonomics heavy experience post, Greg. I passed up this model for an A74, mainly for scarce custom buttons and no joystick. Use a6700 for lightweight trips. Different strokes for different folks, feature/value assessments. How is low light performance? What’s your shutter count comparison between A74 and A7CII - like camera odometer? BTW, I would not have thought that thing was a hot tub - fish container, perhaps, but not hot tub😊. Cheers!
@@paulm8157 agree with you the lack of custom buttons it’s pretty annoying, but I see why they do it from a business stand point. Low lights the same as the A74 as it’s pretty much exactly the same camera under the hood. I’ve had the A74 a year longer so it has a higher shutter count (for now😂) - if I was to repair the mic input the A74 would stay ahead I think! Cheers for watching fella, no fish in that tub 🤣🤣
@@ClassyLB it’s not an issue if you actually like operating a camera with the touch screen - I don’t though, I have all touch settings turned off, and when I’m looking through the viewfinder and changing my focus point in real time, not taking my eye away to look at the LCD, taking multiple shots at different points, then the thumb pad on the A7IV is the most ergonomic and responsive way of doing it on any camera I’ve used so far
Owned both and like both. But for paid work it's the a7IV due to dual card slots and larger body for better ergonomic control. Recently sold the a7IV expecting the a7V will be released in the next few months. The a7cII is a great choice with cool retro look and subtly improved tracking but lacks the 1/8000 shutter and has lower high speed synch.
Got it. Finally got the A7IV, I am a left eye shooter and using A7CII's viewfinder feels difficult especially when using glacier glasses for my high altitude projects. Feels completely different after 12 years with Canon DSLR
I am about to buy new camera and shoot only photos in jpeg - don’t want to post process photos due to lack of time… can’t decide between a7cii and Fuji xt5…. Photos which you showed in video are great and have cool colours- are they jpegs directly from body? Is it possible to make film fim simulation in the camera like Kodachrome, portra etc?
@@VampireRhino thank you, they’re raws that I have edited, if you want to only shoot jpeg the A7Cii has some built in looks with different styles but not film simulations like Fuji has. The jpegs look great on their own though to be honest. And you can also just put a quick look or preset on top of your jpeg after on the computer if you wanted to change the look further. I have never used a Fuji so can’t really say much on their film simulations
@@distantmedia thank you for quck reply and additional info. currently I am using x100F and like it a lot but those a7cii and a7cr are feature packed and probably more futureproof. Need to test them if the ergonomics are good for me.
@ yes would definitely agree with the future proof aspect, it would probably last you many many years, plus much wider range of lenses! Give it a hold in a shop and see how you feel 😄
I've been using the Chinese version of A7C ii and it's been absolutely amazing compared to my little pocket cam. I've noticed some wearing on the rubber of the EVF, I wonder if that happened on yours too?
@@IdanPotato not yet but it did on one of my older Sony models, I think I ended up taking it off in the end lol! - you can buy replacements / 3rd party eye bits online too :)
@@noorur I’d agree if it wasn’t for the price tag, you can pick up one of the older full frame professional models for less with much better specs which makes no sense what so ever haha!
I have an A7r3 and i think the body on those is small enough for my mittens. I did look at the A7C r but i would probably get the A7r 5 as the size isnt that much different, besides i use the 200-600mm. If i was only using one of sonys small trio lenses, then yes the A7C line is great, But even your lens looks a little large for that body. I think even my 20mm 1.8 G or 85 1.8 might even be too big for the A7C line.
@@dezem7 I normally have the 50mm on mine so it’s tiny with that on the front, just not in this video. the size is dramatically different when you start bringing sling bags or minimal carry’s into the mix, but yeah if you’re using something like a 200-600 then you’re right, no point what so ever haha, unless ofc you want to save a few quid on the body!
I just wished it was even smaller and lighter, like my nex7 which has been my travel camera since 2012, and it's way more compact than the newer models. I've been thinking to upgrade to the a7cii as I already got some full frame lenses I would finally also would want to use to their fullest. Also on my old nex 7 the eye sensor seems to be dying as sometimes I only get image on the viewfinder. But I always love to shoot from the hip and look down on the screen like with a middle format, but with the new flip out camcorder screen it is always on the side with the a7cii and I fear that it will be bothering me a lot. Any advice?
Yeah unfortunately you will have to sacrifice having a bit of a bigger camera if you're upgrading to a full frame Sony model, but of course you are gaining unmatched specs. its still small when paired with a small lens tbh, id argue it feels way nicer in your hand as well. Wouldn't worry about the fully articulating screen, they work miles better than the tilt open ones! 😁
You must be left eye dominant which is why the viewfinder is uncomfortable for you. I think most people are right eye dominant so they use the left eye to see rest of the scene.
Love this camera, does everything I need it to do so far. There’s a way to program it so that the joystick seems useless. My only gripe is the maximum shutter speed. No complaints otherwise. Nice pics by the way.
What camera are you filming with in the shots of you holding the camera. The A74 shoots better photos and better video.Very disappointed with my A7C2 not for what’s lacking compared to the 74 but for image quality and colour.
@@howardhdavidson the A roll where I’m talking? All filmed on the A74. - hmm haven’t found that with mine at all. they have the exact same specs, same sensor, everything. I can’t tell the difference between any of the files video or photo. Interesting you’re feeling that about them though 🤔
Just stop! Its crazy, having a 15% smaller camera yet using ther same huge lenses. Stupid. Your just trying to sell a product. . the A74 is just better. Its build quality buttons, features. Now its cheaper too.
@@lundysden6781 hey, if I was trying to ‘just sell a product’ that wouldn’t be a very good tactic given I say get the A7IV at the end of the video 😂😂 (also sell a product for who? I don’t make any money for this, or work for Sony, or benefit in any way by talking about this camera) perhaps think twice or pay a little more attention when making comments in the future ☺️ either way have a good one mate!
Your criticism of the viewfinder is laughable. No wonder it’s awkward for you. I have this camera and you’re supposed to look into the eyepiece with THE OTHER EYE LOL! Your right eye - then your nose and face are not scrunched into the camera. And yes you use your left eye to scope the scene. You lost points there my friend ….
@@grateful786 don’t HAVE to but it’s certainly more beneficial than ‘viewing the scene’ - which you can do with any eye on any mirrorless camera, or via the LCD 😂
Edit: I should have clarified in the video, I know these body designs are so you can look through the viewfinder with your right eye while ''surveying the scene'' - I am left eye dominant, therefore regardless of any camera design, I would always use my left eye to look through the viewfinder. My stronger eye is way more important than surveying the scene, and I have never shot in a way or style which has required me to keep one eye open anyway (but that's awesome if that works for you) - These points are just my personal real world experience, and that will not always align with how other people use / interact with cameras. But as I said originally below, my experience with the camera is genuine and I am not reading a spec sheet from my office, that is how I intend to make videos about stuff, rather than talking about anything anybody can read on a brands website. Plus as showcased in the video you can still ''survey the scene'' with your right eye if you wanted to because the camera is so small and for me personally, I still don't require that when it comes to taking photos. I would just simply prefer a central viewfinder, on any camera. But that's me lol. - Thanks for watching: (PS It's not a range finder, its an EVF simply positioned on the left hand side. Ok I'm done🤣.) End of edit.
Genuine real world, possibly slightly weird (😂) pros and cons from somebody who has actually spent the last year using this camera (rather than somebody reading a spec sheet behind a desk)
First of all, I love this camera. My main camera is the A7RV, but the A7Cii makes me happy. I have a difference of opinion with you in many of your "gripes". The AF (program it to BBF and use tracking) is so good that you don't need the joystick to focus and re/compose (hell I don't even use it on my A7RV). About the EVF placement, it's a rangefinder and if you open your left eye at the same time, you can see subjects coming into your frame. I might also add that your nose clears it too LOL. Sony did a remarkable job with a compact FF camera. BTW, it has improved AF and colors to the A7IV, but if you (obviously) need dual card slots, center EVF and bigger grip than the A7IV is to way to go.
@@stkuj hey mate, thanks for watching! I absolutely love this camera to bits, my gripes are just stuff that don’t align with my way of shooting that’s all. And the A7IV solves those, but then the A7IV has cons the A7CII doesn’t lol. So it’s a give and take situation, everybody is different with what they do and don’t like about cameras.
To clarify though, it is not a rangefinder.
It just simply has a body designed like one. It’s an EVF on the left, which is not what makes a camera a range finder, and I keep seeing this misconception about the C line hahah. As I said in another reply, I’m left eye dominant, I use my left eye and can still see over the top of the camera with my right eye. Doesn’t matter how you hold or use this thing! 😂
@@distantmediapeople calling the X100 a rangefinder *all the time* makes it pretty clear nobody actually knows what a rangefinder is anymore.
@@nickthaskater FINALLY somebody who knows 😂 the A7C doesn’t even have the fake viewfinder overlay and they’re still calling it a range finder.
last year oct i bought my first camera , A7C and man it has been the best choice i have made in my life. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that camera
@@TECH3_ awesome to hear bro! I wish I got the first C camera from Sony when it originally came out!
I have been shooting with my A7Cii for about 7 months now. Its been nothing but great for me. I do automotive photography and it performs really well. ngl though with all this talk about the A7V coming out I do want that now but I will keep shooting with my A7Cii till at least 2026 before I get the Sony A7V. Really good video brother. Cheers.
@@TBills3000 hahaha I know how you feel as soon as I saw the rumours for that I was like here we go again 😂 the thing is most of the time they’re not worth upgrading to straight away and then by the time you have ran your current camera into the ground, there will be probably 2 more models to choose between, so it’s best to wait anyway! Appreciate it man thanks for watching!
This camera is excellent for traveling, hiking or anything where you don’t want to carry too heavy. Performance is absolutely amazing.
@@movakalin5333 100%! It’s the minimal/light carry photographers dream!
Really great video mate! Hope you had a great trip! Looks like you got to some really cool spots! This was a camera I looked at before making the switch recently, it seems like such a great piece of kit! I think it compliments your setup and shooting style perfectly, especially paired with the A7iv 👌🏻📸
@@chrisharveyphotography thanks so much matey! It was a great little escape! You’re right it does indeed, shame about the mic situation but I wonder if I’d even have bothered using it for photo if it wasn’t for that 😂so possibly a happy accident hahaha!
been tossing up between this and the fuji xt-5 - thanks for the helpful video brother!
@@j0hnnyl3gend most welcome man, thanks for watching!!
which one are you getting?
Great review! Have to check out thus camera! What was the lens you were using?
@@weeq326 thanks man! For taking the photos in the video? It was the Zeiss 16-35mm
What’s the highest shutter speed? Will f1.4 lenses be a problem when shooting daylight?
@@alphaandomega2709 I highly doubt it, think it’s about 1/4000 - and failing that you can just use an ND filter 🙌
I had a Sony a few years ago, loved the results but for whatever reason, didn't particularly enjoy using it. Loved the shots around Craig Harbour.
I relate to that they’re not the most inspiring or fun cameras shall we say, but the problem is they’re so damn good at doing what you need to them to do the lack of friction makes them like a blacksmiths hammer! 😂 lovely area of Scotland up there!
It's actually called a joystick, mate... 😂 I must admit I thoroughly enjoyed using my A6000 back in the day so I can only imagine how good these are, especially given all the advancements over the years. Nicely done, mate. Some cracking images throughout as usual.
The whole hot tub situation made me consider the idea of you filming your conclusion to this video in a random garden, I can't lie. 😂
@@matthewpatterson9184 you know if I didn’t clarify that they’d be comments kicking off about it 😂😂😂 - yeah it’s kind of mind boggling they’re managing to get this much into a small body now days, the new era of cameras again I guess!
Hahaha just popped in to film the outro don’t mind me😂 nah it was just the cabin we had for a week!
A short question and I Feel you might be the best person to ask since you have used both. Have you used this as a dual camera setup with your A7IV and how did it fare? I am deciding between getting a second A7IV or this A7CII. I have been using the A7RIII/A9/A7IV for my personal and professional work, sometimes with a dual camera setup. For my personal street work and travel, I feel the smaller form factor is a huge plus especially with my 24/40mm 2.5G lenses. Thing is I remember using the A7IV + A6400 combo for a wedding once and it was a minor headache switching between form factors since the muscle memory is a little out of place. Not too sure if I would get the same headaches with the A7CII.
@@yumeyama4783 hi mate, yes I use them in conjunction with each other, the only differences between how the two cameras function is less custom buttons on the A7Cii, I have them set up exactly the same but my A74 has a couple of custom buttons i have to put into the FN menu on the A7Cii, which to be honest is no problem, it was annoying at first but now I just instantly know when I’m holding the A7Cii a couple of things are in the FN menu instead, pretty seamless duo other than that! Colours match flawlessly across photo and video
I currently own a Sony A6400 with a Tamron 28-75 G2 lens, which I use as a hobbyist. I really enjoy photography, though I rarely do videography. My main focus is on shooting people, buildings, and similar subjects.
Would it be a good idea to upgrade to the A7C II, or should I stick with my current setup? How much of a difference do features like autofocus (AF), dynamic range, and IBIS (in-body image stabilization) make in photography? Or would it be better to invest in high-quality full-frame prime lenses (preferably third-party options)
@@fernandoloieshaslim4512 hi mate, I can’t tell anybody wether it’s a good idea to upgrade or not because it all depends on personal circumstances.
The A6400 is an APSC camera though so if you wanted to make the jump to full frame cameras and start using full frame lenses as they’re intended to be used, that would be the biggest reason to swap to the A7Cii from your A6400 in my opinion.
It’s a fantastic step up and well worth the cost of the camera but just remember the new features are nice to have but they won’t dramatically improve your photography just because your current camera doesn’t have them. You have most of the control over that not your camera 😁
@@distantmedia I see. Maybe I should consider adding more full-frame lenses. I'm just curious-do AF, IBIS, and dynamic range really have that much of an effect on a camera? Like you said, it all depends on how we control the camera rather than the camera itself. Thank you! Maybe I should use the camera body to its limits before upgrading it.
@ well they do but do you need them? What kind of photographer are you, and then ask yourself if you need the following. The more dynamic range a camera has the more detail it can capture, and the more you can pull out of your raw files giving you more flexibility when you shoot and edit.
IBIS is only really a must for videography in my opinion, it does allow you to use slower shutter speeds and keep images sharp, but you can just use a tripod for that anyway. AF is a no brainer, the better the auto focus the faster and more accurately you’ll be able to shoot.
Camera upgrading is never really going to be the wrong choice if you have the budget, you could upgrade and then invest in more lenses later, you could invest in lenses now and upgrade camera later. Just figure out what you need right now! (Keep in mind having loads of lenses isn’t all it’s made out to be, I only own two lenses and have done for 5+ years)
For my style of photography, I mainly focus on street photography and architectural photography. Occasionally, I also like to shoot in low-light conditions. However, when photographing in low light, I often struggle to capture sharp images. I’ve heard that full-frame camera bodies generally offer better noise control compared to APS-C cameras. Additionally, features like IBIS (In-Body Image Stabilization) and improved autofocus, such as those found in the Sony A7C II, can significantly enhance low-light performance. That’s why I’m considering switching to a full-frame camera.
On the other hand, I’ve been thinking about investing in lenses first-perhaps a prime lens-to improve my low-light photography without immediately switching camera bodies.
Another factor adding to my confusion is that the Sony A7C II is currently discounted in my country, from $2,200 to $1,600. Should I take advantage of this discount and go full-frame directly, or should I focus on upgrading to full-frame lenses for now? I’m not sure which choice would benefit me most.
yeah when used the right way it will enhance all areas of performance, not just the ones mentioned, because its just simply a much better camera with much higher specs across all areas.
It wont directly make you a better photographer or guarantee you get the photos of your dreams of course, because that's just not what upgrading camera is about.
But It sounds like you are going to want to upgrade eventually / soon anyway, so perhaps you should take that big discount in your country and secure the camera first and build up some lens choices as you continue using the camera. Your tamron lens is f2/8 which is already enough for most low light photography as a hobbiest anyway 😊 hope that helps!
How come u didn't get the bottom plate from smallrig, better handling with it, and also why you look through the viewfinder with the left eye???? i saw a video about it people are doing unwillingly wrong how they look through the range finder style cameras
Debated it but it makes the grip taller not wider, I don’t have a problem with the size of the camera all in all, and the whole point of them it that they’re smaller haha!
I look through it with my left eye because I’m left eye dominant (aka much better vision in my left eye) - but regardless if you look through it with your right eye you’re still out of line with your lens and sensor, it’s not a range finder camera otherwise I might attempt to use my weaker eye! Hope that made sense haha
@@distantmedia yeah but you can se eif something is going to come into the frame if you use right eye, helps more for street photography when you wait for someone to come into the frame
@@strippedlist yeah yeah I know that, just not needed for me 😁 - if you own this camera look through it with your left eye, you can literally do the exact same thing with your right eye cause the body is so small (as shown in the video) Theres absolutely no wrong way to hold a camera haha, all personal preference and what feels best for you at the end of the day! Would take a central viewfinder any day of the week 😂
Cool venue, concise, ergonomics heavy experience post, Greg. I passed up this model for an A74, mainly for scarce custom buttons and no joystick. Use a6700 for lightweight trips. Different strokes for different folks, feature/value assessments. How is low light performance?
What’s your shutter count comparison between A74 and A7CII - like camera odometer?
BTW, I would not have thought that thing was a hot tub - fish container, perhaps, but not hot tub😊. Cheers!
@@paulm8157 agree with you the lack of custom buttons it’s pretty annoying, but I see why they do it from a business stand point. Low lights the same as the A74 as it’s pretty much exactly the same camera under the hood.
I’ve had the A74 a year longer so it has a higher shutter count (for now😂) - if I was to repair the mic input the A74 would stay ahead I think!
Cheers for watching fella, no fish in that tub 🤣🤣
Why is the thumb pad an issue if you can use the touch screen to choose your focus point?
@@ClassyLB it’s not an issue if you actually like operating a camera with the touch screen - I don’t though, I have all touch settings turned off, and when I’m looking through the viewfinder and changing my focus point in real time, not taking my eye away to look at the LCD, taking multiple shots at different points, then the thumb pad on the A7IV is the most ergonomic and responsive way of doing it on any camera I’ve used so far
If you get A7CII and A74IV almost at a same price, which would you choose?
@@boseabhi2 A7IV, unless I had a very specific reason to need a smaller camera
Owned both and like both. But for paid work it's the a7IV due to dual card slots and larger body for better ergonomic control. Recently sold the a7IV expecting the a7V will be released in the next few months. The a7cII is a great choice with cool retro look and subtly improved tracking but lacks the 1/8000 shutter and has lower high speed synch.
Got it. Finally got the A7IV, I am a left eye shooter and using A7CII's viewfinder feels difficult especially when using glacier glasses for my high altitude projects. Feels completely different after 12 years with Canon DSLR
@@boseabhi2 hope you enjoy it man! Left eye shooters unite 😂
@@distantmedia absolutely 😆, I thought of staying in canon platform but sky high price of L series RF glasses was a bummer
I am about to buy new camera and shoot only photos in jpeg - don’t want to post process photos due to lack of time… can’t decide between a7cii and Fuji xt5…. Photos which you showed in video are great and have cool colours- are they jpegs directly from body? Is it possible to make film fim simulation in the camera like Kodachrome, portra etc?
@@VampireRhino thank you, they’re raws that I have edited, if you want to only shoot jpeg the A7Cii has some built in looks with different styles but not film simulations like Fuji has. The jpegs look great on their own though to be honest. And you can also just put a quick look or preset on top of your jpeg after on the computer if you wanted to change the look further. I have never used a Fuji so can’t really say much on their film simulations
@@distantmedia thank you for quck reply and additional info. currently I am using x100F and like it a lot but those a7cii and a7cr are feature packed and probably more futureproof. Need to test them if the ergonomics are good for me.
@ yes would definitely agree with the future proof aspect, it would probably last you many many years, plus much wider range of lenses! Give it a hold in a shop and see how you feel 😄
I've been using the Chinese version of A7C ii and it's been absolutely amazing compared to my little pocket cam. I've noticed some wearing on the rubber of the EVF, I wonder if that happened on yours too?
@@IdanPotato not yet but it did on one of my older Sony models, I think I ended up taking it off in the end lol! - you can buy replacements / 3rd party eye bits online too :)
Which lenses are you using on it for photography?
At the moment I just use a 50mm and a 16-35mm - Nothing fancy but it's all I need right now for most of my photography :)
whats the lens you’re using in the video?
@@m0kiro Zeiss 16-35mm, link in bio if you need it
After seeing reviews of this and the A6700, I decided APS-C still has it, no need to upgrade to full frame..... not yet anyway
@@noorur I’d agree if it wasn’t for the price tag, you can pick up one of the older full frame professional models for less with much better specs which makes no sense what so ever haha!
I have an A7r3 and i think the body on those is small enough for my mittens. I did look at the A7C r but i would probably get the A7r 5 as the size isnt that much different, besides i use the 200-600mm. If i was only using one of sonys small trio lenses, then yes the A7C line is great, But even your lens looks a little large for that body. I think even my 20mm 1.8 G or 85 1.8 might even be too big for the A7C line.
@@dezem7 I normally have the 50mm on mine so it’s tiny with that on the front, just not in this video. the size is dramatically different when you start bringing sling bags or minimal carry’s into the mix, but yeah if you’re using something like a 200-600 then you’re right, no point what so ever haha, unless ofc you want to save a few quid on the body!
I just wished it was even smaller and lighter, like my nex7 which has been my travel camera since 2012, and it's way more compact than the newer models. I've been thinking to upgrade to the a7cii as I already got some full frame lenses I would finally also would want to use to their fullest. Also on my old nex 7 the eye sensor seems to be dying as sometimes I only get image on the viewfinder. But I always love to shoot from the hip and look down on the screen like with a middle format, but with the new flip out camcorder screen it is always on the side with the a7cii and I fear that it will be bothering me a lot. Any advice?
Yeah unfortunately you will have to sacrifice having a bit of a bigger camera if you're upgrading to a full frame Sony model, but of course you are gaining unmatched specs. its still small when paired with a small lens tbh, id argue it feels way nicer in your hand as well. Wouldn't worry about the fully articulating screen, they work miles better than the tilt open ones! 😁
DJI Mic 2 Adapter, no mic input needed 🙌🏽 just make sure you have the DJi mic 2, then add the adapter to pair together.
@@ScottieWoods how’s it write audio to video files without a mic input? 😳
@@distantmedia you plug the adapter into the hot shoe, then your mic works seamlessly with writing audio to video, all in camera 👍🏽
@@ScottieWoods damn! Thanks man, looks like an upgrades due then! 😂
Lens name please ❤
@@ArjunSingh-qt5jn zeiss 16-35mm f4 - Theres a link for it in my description also 🙌
You must be left eye dominant which is why the viewfinder is uncomfortable for you. I think most people are right eye dominant so they use the left eye to see rest of the scene.
@@alphakay I am yeah, and I know haha. Thanks so much for watching!
Love this camera, does everything I need it to do so far. There’s a way to program it so that the joystick seems useless. My only gripe is the maximum shutter speed. No complaints otherwise. Nice pics by the way.
@@patricksprojects thanks mate appreciate it! Definitely looking forward to seeing where the C line goes in the future that’s for sure!
What camera are you filming with in the shots of you holding the camera. The A74 shoots better photos and better video.Very disappointed with my A7C2 not for what’s lacking compared to the 74 but for image quality and colour.
@@howardhdavidson the A roll where I’m talking? All filmed on the A74. - hmm haven’t found that with mine at all. they have the exact same specs, same sensor, everything. I can’t tell the difference between any of the files video or photo. Interesting you’re feeling that about them though 🤔
"Not a touch screen guy".... do you own a smartphone?
@@RB-vf9xn nah don’t own a phone, only use fax machines
Just stop! Its crazy, having a 15% smaller camera yet using ther same huge lenses. Stupid. Your just trying to sell a product. . the A74 is just better. Its build quality buttons, features. Now its cheaper too.
@@lundysden6781 hey, if I was trying to ‘just sell a product’ that wouldn’t be a very good tactic given I say get the A7IV at the end of the video 😂😂 (also sell a product for who? I don’t make any money for this, or work for Sony, or benefit in any way by talking about this camera)
perhaps think twice or pay a little more attention when making comments in the future ☺️ either way have a good one mate!
Your criticism of the viewfinder is laughable. No wonder it’s awkward for you. I have this camera and you’re supposed to look into the eyepiece with THE
OTHER EYE LOL! Your right eye
- then your nose and face are not scrunched into the camera. And yes you use your left eye to scope the scene. You lost points there my friend ….
@@Pfagnan read the other comments :)
People who are left eye dominant have to use their left eye look through the viewfinder!🙄
@@grateful786 don’t HAVE to but it’s certainly more beneficial than ‘viewing the scene’ - which you can do with any eye on any mirrorless camera, or via the LCD 😂