Sony a7C II & a7CR Review: What is Sony up to?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Review of the Sony a7C II and a7C R cameras as well as the 16-35mm GM II lens.
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Review of the Sony a7C II and a7C R cameras as well as the 16-35mm GM II lens.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
1:49 - Familiar Sensors
3:23 - Build & Ergonomics
5:43 - Improvements
6:27 - Stabilization
7:14 - Burst Rate
7:40 - Software Features
8:49 - No 8K
9:42 - Overheating & Battery
12:48 - Webcam & Streaming
14:58 - Overheating Continued
15:59 - Cameras Summary
17:59 - 16-35mm GM II Lens
19:15 - Build & Features
21:16 - Image Quality
22:47 - Close Focusing
23:14 - Focus Breathing
23:45 - Final Thoughts
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as a measurement technician and PC nerd that alsom happens to be a photographer and camera nerd, I can only get a smile when I hear that camera heat dissipation testing is getting a team such as Gamers Nexus to help get the proper methodology and good testing practices.
I am nothing BUT hyped for that !
Using the TV to assess overheating/record times with face tracking is a genius idea
The definitive camera review channel!
Hands down
Wasn't expecting the show host desk and guest start chair, I'm so ready for the new Gerald Undone content that must be coming soon!!!
*fingers crossed* for Conan O'Brien as first guest.
Dude, I am absolutely loving the "late night" studio setup. So excited to see what sort of content you're able to make in the future.
I was scrolling down m subscriptions looking for your review on this and almost gave up and went to the next best thing. You're always the first person i go to for reviews, it's just quick and concise, your video can be 20+ minutes and it still doesn't seem dragged
Am I the only one that loves this unscripted video style from Gerald? It feels more “real” if that makes any sense.
Totally agree it shows how good he is! Trust me from a RUclipsr this is so hard!
Yes, this makes sense! Sometimes, over producing things is not necessary and it just brings in more stress! I'm glad Gerald found this new, more joyful format! ❤️
natural*
A script of some sort is needed. Even cue cards. Otherwise you will sound very unscripted and bounce all over the place, taking too much time in the video. Being a natural talking with an outline to keep you on track is a wonderful gift. Kinda like adlibbing yet staying on track.
I like a bit of both tbh.
Just a note, the front dial is a massive improvement on the A7C which doesn't have one, and as an A7C owner that's one of the camera's biggest drawbacks for me. Very excited for this!
made me flow so much better when I set up my back dail to be aperture, with the native iso button and the main dail for shutter made me think all the buttons on the other camera are redundant given I wasn't changing setting too often for portraits and when shooting videos
I really like the new studio setup with the notes and the new table! + the 3rd detail camera shot.
Although I don't like the camera 2 setup with the "guest chair". It kinda throws me off, because nobody is sitting there so I don't know where to look.
I get to see more of the room, but the framing is so different to the talking head cam that it feels very "empty". Maybe change the position if you don't have a guest so it matches better.
Keep it up!
finished the video. Seeing the empty chair made me exspect you got a guest, but you didn't. Maybe I'm the only one, but I would have prefered a table with a fake plant or something else instead.
(of course if you have a guest you could use the chair)
Was thinking the same thing !
I laughed every time I switched to that view. I think it's hilarious but makes zero sense as a serious angle when there's no guest
Yes, absolutely jarring. Overall, I like the new studio space (though I think I prefer the deeper, more complex shot of the old place, but might just take some getting used to), but that angle was so weird and threw me off every time. The composition is just so awkward without a guest here, the TV is just not in the right position for the "Let's pixel peep together" - which is probably why it ended up not being used for it - and I feel my eyes have to dart around, finding what to look at, every time. Nothing but love for Gerald though, I am sure it will be worked out as the new setup evolves.
If you don't know where to look at, why did you click on the video?
You look at the host and/or the product he is reviewing.
Im a Canon R5C user, switched from Sony a few years ago (last Sony I had was A7RII, shot stills and 4K video with it) and it seems like they've improved so many things! I'm considering one of these compact cameras as an everyday carry. Although the specs seem quite similar to the R5C, I'm looking for something with less bulk. Thanks for the review!
I'm tempted aswell
I would very much enjoy the very nerdy camera heating tests with Steve and crew. One thing I'd be interested in is how much having a monitor connected to the HDMI ports affects things. At least for me if I'm running cameras for a long time (2+ hours) it's for streaming with HDMI capture cards and that's where cameras tend to overheat for me.
Man, I always dig your reviews. Thorough, thoughtful, and no slo-mo B.S. on skateboards or pouring coffee. Thanks.
😂 agree ..
I've had only a handful of different epochs of youtubers over the last 15 years that I could watch and relax... and feel really de-stressed and calm... thanks Gerald 👍
Ah, Gerald, I love how off the cuff the intro is, and how uniquely Geraldesque you blend top notch video, audio and informational quality with a bit of a "I’m confused by this new set" vibe :D
Been looking forward for the official announcement of these cameras and I’m glad to see you got to make a review. Yours is the first I clicked on. =)
And btw: glad to see you’re back to making videos after moving studios!
Great job on the video Gerald! Thanks for making it. I liked this format. I know it will only get better the more you become used to your new studio space. I dig the front shot where we see just the corner of the tv and the mic pointed out towards the guest chair. And what a nice angle for your product showcase shot.
I'm digging this format Gerald!
Five million videos on these two cameras in my feed, this is the only one I need to watch. Nice job.
You're always the first for me in a new camera day!
Great info here, Gerald! As always thanks for being so open and honest.
Great reviews! The new lens looks great and improves on it's predecessor in almost every function. The A7CR is a great compact camera and packs 61 megapixels of resolution into a very small form factor, an ideal camera for hiking, cycling or general touring.
Thank you so much Gerald for the informative and helpful review! God bless you and good luck!
I would love to see some thermal testing with GN. Living in Arizona, it's really tough to figure out what's going to be able to meet needs. Obviously I don't expect to be able to record outside here with the camera body in direct sunlight very long, but we routinely have ambient temperatures in the shade of 110+ and even at night, it can easily still be over 100 for several hours.
Love the new studio! Great to hear your thoughts on the new gear as always.
If that chair there would be for special guests, I hope we see someone like Camera Conspiracies some time.
Been watching you for years and I always love these new camera tests. Thank you for all you do with these!
Congrats for the new studio. You are the guy!
Gerald, excellent reviews as always. I love the new studio and you are managing it way better than I would (I struggle with one camera!). I just ordered the A74 (arrives tomorrow), (had the A7C but sold it for the A74) thinking I was going use that as my primary hybrid camera and would look at the A7Cii as the backup camera (I like the lightweight for travel!). Now, one of the things I shoot is the Sony 200-600mm lens for wildlife and that small A7C was just too small when using it. Now, on my Tamron 28-75mm (the largest thing I use with it), I was fine. I now have some options to think about! Keep the A74 and get the A7Cii for travel. Or, send back the A74, get the Sony A7RV for my primary (because of educators discount I can get the A7RV for $3300) and then the A7Cii as the travel/B camera. Or, crazy, probably, but get both the A7Cii and the A7Cr?
Finally. I've been waiting to upgrade from the a7c, the added slomo and breathing comp are going to be great. I also like that they moved the port up, the USB and HDMI were too close together and kinda fiddly. Also hopefully it has the streaming prompt once you plug it in, which I really wanted.
Also I'm so glad this was up right away, your reviews are all I need to get a good idea.
Thanks Gerald for a great review on these new platforms. I don't think either one is in my current "wish list" however, I very much appreciate your knowledge, experience and "hands on" review of both of these cameras. Well done!
Love the new setup! Can’t wait to see how you use it!
Great breakdown as always! Lots of stuff all at once for sure! Nice new space!
It was great seeing you at Kando and this was an excellent amount of information, thanks for that.
Digging the new setup mate, can't wait to see the studio tour.
Love this format and the new studio!
Loving the new desk! Looking forward to the tour VOD.
Loving this new setup Conan
Congrats to 400k!
Like the new format, Gerald!
I love the new set and vibe. The microphone and second chair has a very tonight show kind of vibe.
One’s mileage may vary, but you may want to consider having a static logo on the screen when it’s not being reference. It definitely pulled my focus a few times. Again, YMMV
Keep up the great work! I’m not even a Sony user, but I enjoy your videos.
Always on point with the reviews!
Congratulations on the new studio. I’d prefer the rear screen off or out of view on the tight shot. The 441 mike for guests is a classic piece of equipment.
Digging then new setup Gerald. Thanks for the video
Even though it's a gear review... I'm genuinely excited everytime you upload:))
Thank you so much for reviewing the lens, Gerald. I thought maybe it didn't get released based on the other RUclipsrs videos out there.
I'm glad that Sony is continuing this line. I got the original A7C and it's a fantastic camera for travel.
Really like the new set. Clean and unique. And thanks fir the run-through of the new gear. It's getting more and more tempting to jump from my apsc.
Another great review and loving the new studio setup too! I really like the idea of the A7Cii but for me, I own two A7iV (plus a third as a backup) for shooting weddings, I can't see a time where I would really benefit from what it offers. Doesn't stop me wanting one though, it's new and shiny, of course I want one! Or, do I want the A7CR as that's different with its mega sensor.... I don't need either, but I want both!
Wow… you are an excellent presenter delivering a huge amount of useful information… as always. Thanks for sharing!
Great review as always. Interesting new set. Yes to thermal heating tests with GN
Off topic.. but your comment reminds me.. your Gamers Nexus studio tour was the best one of those videos you have done.. Great Channel.. love Your gear reviews..
Your content is always great man. I have to say I think the new setup (especially the wide TV angle) immediately made it look like you were on a green screen and like the TV side was part of a set extension, and the flat framing of that shot looks very much like a low budget public television talkshow broadcast. Side angle was great. And functionally, it's very cool. Just commenting in the interest of giving test reactions! :)
Could be lighting related.
Good in-depth overview. Thanks
Love the new setup!! I will copy it for my studio. Thanks.
loving the new setup! The a7c2 looks like a little beast!
Gerald..!! hah,, glad to see new content from ya,, very nice table btw.. looks like your a talk show host now ; )
Great video Gerald! My one comment is that, as a hybrid Sony shooter, I find it so annoying that they keep releasing cameras that feel slightly incomplete (cropped/binned 4K, rolling shutter, 4.2.2 in some modes, 4.2.0 in others, etc) instead of just completing the camera, even at higher price points (A7RV). I also find it inexcusable that they don’t update firmware on already released cameras. That tells me that they see their customers as a dollar sign, rather than as a community. Hoping someone from Sony reads this ✌🏼
+1 as an A7SIII owner annoyed that my $4k camera isn't getting firmware updates.
Nice job. As a landscape photographer whose #1 used lens is the 16-35, definitely worth the upgrade. Thanks for making me spend more money.
Thanks for the TL;DR on the cameras, Gerald. As someone using the a6400 and currently shopping for the A7IV, I might just wait until the A7CII is locally available.
Also: new studio setup looks neat! Would love to see Potato Jet on the guest chair :)
I'm pretty happy for the 16-35 as I didn't buy into the first one but have developed a greater need for the focal range.
great setup, looks like some sort of talkshow with the nice chair. love it!
So hyped that Gerald showed back up on the feed. The new setup was a little jarring because I was just watching the FX3 video. The studio was different but the Gerald was the same, so I found it useful and strangely entertaining as always.
The guest chair needs a purple pillow, maybe with a sequin face in it.
Great video Gerald, you're always first watch with new releases. And if only Sony would update the a7IV with these new video features, like LUT support, it wouldn't feel like I’m wasting my money with buying new camera bodies..
Funny to see that Gerald uses the same background video on the TV as me on some of my videos 😂 Thanks for the video and I'm looking forward for the studio tour.
I've always said you were always like the Gamers Nexus of camera tech RUclipsr to me, and look at what's happening now. Love it. Any chance any of the 1080p modes are oversampled from a higher resolution?
Can’t wait to see the new studio!!!!
I hope the rV gets the new software stuff soon but when looking at how they abandoned the sIII and a1 i highly doubt it getting updates
Fantastic new setup!
If I am only interested in filming video, is there any advantage at all in getting the a7CR over the a7C II?
Hi Gerald, can you share what battery pack/power bank did you use for power delivery?Is there any minimum requirement to achieve no battery drainage while using the camera? Thanks
All I really care about at this point is whether Sony ships literally any software update to A7SIII before I go and buy a Lumix next week, this company gets no more money from me
loving the new set. you should add a news esque intro and stack the paper notes on the table haha
Thanks for the review. Do you know if the A7CR’s sensor lack the AA filter?
I love the new setup! Looks like you are all set up for a guest like you are a late night host too.
Heyyy, Gerald! Love from Malaysia
recently discovered your channel and gotta say kudos on your constant effort to always prep well for your videos and excecute it smoothly
if you're ever in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia :))
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I would like to know if the A7C2 can use eye detect autofocus while also using the connect to smartphone function, which currently the A7C cannot.
That front dial/scroll wheel on the grip is not carried over from the A7C, thats new and very welcome. I use the A7C when out and about/ traveling more than my A7Riv, the biggest miss is that front dial on the grip, really pleased to see it on the examples you have in this video.
10 bit video woohoo!
I can see the upgrade being a no-brainer from the A7C to the A7C II but not so sure about the A7CR. I use my A7Riv when I need the reliability and reassurance of the two card slots. The A7CR gives that up so I would pass on it.
...Nice new set - very Late Late Show ;-) - Nice humble opening too - keep it going mate
Love the style and format of the video!
Currently using the A7C alongside my extensive Canon setup with a 35 GM as my "Sony experiment"; Canon sensors have issues with vertical bloom when using mechanical shutters, exposing blue LEDs as purple and some of their lenses produce a bit more flare when I have backlit situations whereas Sony excels in these areas. Seriously considering the A7C II for the IBIS improvements as I don't shoot with the viewfinder and the UVC HDMI support but will have to look into whether the sensor will be a better option vs the A7C for dynamic range and low noise at high ISO (6400-12800). Additional grip option is a great feature if I want to shoot with this more seriously with Canon lenses via a Metabones adapter as they become front heavy.
Is there any improvement in anti-flicker when shooting under LED lights with PWM dimming with the A7 IV/C II vs. the A7 III/A7C? I am encountering more and more of these situations as time goes on, especially when shooting live music.
The primary benefit of the A7C form factor is I can take it with me a lot more easily than the Canon (their new GM lenses are also smaller and lighter than the Canon RF L variants) and as such, it's less imposing for my subjects - and the silver colour adds to that deprecation of "seriousness" when doing street photography.
Now if only there was an 85 1.2 GM....
I literally just picked up a second a7iv and now I'm out of the country and can't return it to get the a7cii. That being said, the 7iv is amazing and I don't regret having it, but I would have preferred the weight savings and smaller body size of the new release. I also never use redundant shooting so having only one card slot would not be a big deal for me.
I am wondering if the A7c II has this "product shot" feature ? Thanks Gerald
I do like that now Sony and Canon have grip extensions, I wish the other camera makers would follow suit. I also think it'd be really neat if they made an battery that was physically longer (i.e. extended height and capacity) to make use of the extra space that otherwise goes to waste under the battery door, if you're likely to just keep the grip on all the time anyway
nice studio setup! I like it!!
Love the new "New Desk" looking setup!
Gerald...thanks for your review -- solid as always and the new set looks great. The GM IIs are worth it especially if you're carrying a camera all day with the lens for say weddings or even sporting events. Your body will thank you!
great video. As a A7c owner, I will step up (plus selling my FPL) to get the A7Cr :) I like your new setup!
I love the new set. All you need is another "side kick" chair and a band to be a late night show.
Love the non-scripted! Great video
This makes me excited for the a7 V and maybe we can get an a7s IV in the next twelve months?
That new 16-35 is exciting. I’ve come to really rely on the aperture ring on the lens. Love that for video.
How the 4k 60p in crop factor mode on the a7cII compare to 4k 60p on a FX30/a6700 when regarding low light? are they virtually the same or a FF sensor is still better even in crop mode?
Solid as always Gerald. At this point, a new camera comes out.... I see what Gerald thinks... then I buy or don't buy. A7Cii is gonna be my new A-Cam (and only camera). Stoked for the smaller setup out in the mountains.
Seems like the viewfinder resolution is the same as the A6700 for both these new cameras? I'd been hoping for improved a7CR viewfinder, at least.
Gerald - when you got that 30-minute live stream result, were you streaming and recording with usb-c power delivery also enabled?
Thanks for the great overview. It would be great to hear your thoughts on the A6700 compared to the a7c II for intermediate photographers where value is important.
I second this.
And the difference in quality with a6700 w/apsc lenses vs a7c2 w/ff lenses for hobby photographers. Honestly a draw of apsc for me has always been the reach at a lower price point (wildlife on vacation) and its smaller (I'm a small person who ends up using my phone bc it's with me) . I also love shooting portraits
Excellent review! One question: How many megapixels does the a7cr has in the APS-C mode has? And , how many megapixels does the a7cII has in the APS-C mode?
Great Review Gerald, but not a fan of the second angle as it causes us to have to "re-find" you when you switch angles; essentially because you're in a totally different position in the frame. IMO I rather have you cut between zoom in/outs as that keeps you in the same position in the frame and it's easy to keep track of you and watch you without difficulty.
Is the dynamic range is dependent on the sensor or the computation processes happening in the camera?
Impressive review! I’m amazed why other reviewers test recording and heat of video while recording either nothing or a static scene. Doesn’t video compression work based on what changes from frame to frame? if NOTHING changes, how hard could the camera processor be working and what impact does that have on file size and therefore data rate? Could you do a video on that?
Does the a7CR have something like real-time wireless backup to mitigate the lack of dual SD cards?
I absolutly love the checking done things on the "skript"
0:08 Gerald Undone. America's new favorite late-nite talk-show host.
Hey you have a dope setup how are you able to remain perfectly lit while not showing glaire in your TV.
I love the md-441, this mic is awesome. I don't quite get the secondary framing including the empty chair though 😆