that was a full on FDC production Chris , make up, lighting, script, director and film crew, cheese-board. We just deliberately made it look like a one man production from an idiot that cant use a camera to be more consistent with you tube standards. ;)
The rapid renovator is from the professional line of products. The plus cuts heavier and is easier to buff off. The ordinary rapid renovator dusts a little bit. Would love to see more Autoglym product reviews from you, John!
what do you think of rapid renovator plus Matt. I shot this kind of unedited because I wanted to sort of show just how hard you can wallop this stuff with a rotary and not get dust.
From what I've seen and read about it is a brilliant product. Honestly, I did not get my hands on it yet, but the fact that it sort of evolved from the rapid renovator which was already a very good product (I've used it quite a lot), makes it rapid renovator on steroids if you like. @@ForensicDetailing
I've been using RR+ for a few months now, the results are impressive and on a par with Koch Chemie. I only use a DA and after speaking to Autoglym they said that its trial and error on speeds etc but so far no problem. I usually apply it a speeds one to two and then crank it up to four or five for the final polish. Ive managed to get significant scratches, overspray and defects removed without any need for flatting, it's also brilliant on gloss black pillar trims and headlight covers. I'd highly recommend it. I've used it on my own car, a sixteen year old focus, and the paints like glass. But must be honest, P2.01 is still my first choice for finishing the job off. Keep up the excellent reviews. 👍
@@ForensicDetailing To be honest no, ticks all my boxes, my only gripe is getting it out of the bottle, it's really viscous and either a dribble comes out or a big splat ends up on my trouser leg. 😂
Never had a problem with dusting, the same as yourself. I always laugh at everyone who uses srp and moans about dust. Don't use as much of it. With a damp sponge I can usually do both front wings and the bonnet with an inch of the stuff.
What a great review of the Auto Glym rapid renovator +,I thought after 4 mins its would burn the paint work,but with the lubrication of the polish it done brilliant,well impressed.
Great review as usual, for my first DA to remove swirls would you recommend using either regular AG Rapid Renovator or AG Super Resin Polish? I have a bottle of each already so unsure if I need to invest in a new bottle of UHD Polishing Compound or RR+?. Help!
Hi John, love your channel only just discovered it! Can I ask, what’s the diff between Rapid Renovator and the Ultra High Definition Polishing Compound?
Ive read a lot of comments and no prices seem concrete. I'll get the price for a trade customer tomorrow if I can and see what if we can get a price as a guide.
Great vid John... Love the video shoots that are firing from the hip. I tried this once on really hard Audi S8 paintwork and whilst it was good, it didn’t do as well as the Koch Chemie. I agree with you though that it’s good stuff. For me though the Koch Chemie seemed to make mince meat of really hard clear coat. I think after watching this video I need to give it another go. 👍🏼🎄 P.S. What are your go to microfibre cutting pads and especially for extra cutting ? Would be interested to know. Plus, looking to change the rotary and thinking Rupes or the Flex model you have - any ideas ? Thanks John and hope you have a cracking Christmas!
H8.02 has more cut, I think thats a given. In fact H8 is perhaps one of the highest cut of the heavy compounds Ive tried (second only to SFC101). H8 is a product I love and I will always have, it won the abrasive shoot out its absolutely superb, but its not as "idiot" proof as RR+ perhaps. put H8 on a test panel and hit it for 4 mins at 1500 and it will dust up. But thats mis-using H8 of course just to make a point you would never do what Im doing in this video when polishing a car. RR+ is closer to S3 gold in cut. Very oily and thick and really nice to use, it actually breaks down smoother than S3 you dont get that initial smearing of product over the panel when you start working it it discs ups (for want of a better word straight away).. but yer as always its not always going to be the most suitable perhaps when rockhard paintwork is involved.. good stuff though for sure. If you have a test panel do the test I did on both products and you will prolly see what I mean.
jon would you know of any products you use that can be shipped to the USA. i really want to try some of the bilt hamber products and others. love this channel.
Hello Forensic detailing really need your advice this weekend i am going to give it a go to try and get a glass look on my paint work of my BMW i have seen lot and lots of your videos and really tourn to which product to use i was thinking either autoglym Deep shine, Koch H8 or the Autoglym Renovator or the Renovator plus am i going the right way with the selection and which would you advice for me to go for my plan is to wash decontaminate polish to a near glass level if i can and then ceramic coat. look forward to hearing from you Sebastian
how did you get along with holograms buddy? I'm currently using my rotary and menzerna compounds and I find myself chasing holograms all the time, how does rapid renovator compare? Am I right in saying they offer a finishing pad as well? therefore cant rapid renovator be used as in all in one with some good finishing properties as well or would you still recommend going over with a good finishing polish after? love the videos pal really helpful keep up the good work!!!
hey luke, so white cutting pad (mid range pad) black finishing. with respect to autoglym theres no enough size options in their pad range to meet what Im looking for there (at least i think) Im after a range of pads in different sizes and grades so I go for the flex polishing pad range. RR+ could you hologram with it... Im pretty sure it would be possible.. if I crank up too fast during the early phase when the high and pressure the pad into the panel more, go too slow etc.. all the things which influence heat build up.. It must be possible to hollogram with it. Hollograms though generally are not a problem for me in any way shape or form. not because Im some godlike skillz merchant.. but simple you can cut swirls on a rotary at an awesome rate with sub 900 rpms. even less... no need to crank rotaries up high really unless you really want to work with decent arm speeds and really want to hit those abrasives hard and fast and then spend more time refining.. even then its not a good idea to stress clearcoat like this to cause the buffer trails and then refine them. Yvan Lacroix put a lot of good info out on this have a watch of my "botox effect hollogram" on the channel. all the things Yvan said to me about clearcoat generally have always turned out to be true and are thing you can sort of test out and play around with...
Looking for recommendations, I need a good detox shampoo trying to decontaminate my car from all cheap foam grease etc. Also would like a recommendation for a simple detailing wax. Thanks in advance. 👍✌️
Evening John! Would you look at RRP+ as a one step product? I love to try out new products when it comes to carcare. I see myself as an Mothers guy, sure I got products from Menzerna, Meguiars, Angelwax and so on. When it comes to Mothers, i like to go for Mothers heavy duty together with Mothers FP, will work lika a one step with realy good outcome. Have gone over to only DA-machine now, it takes abit longera sure, but i can skip The high sound from the rotary.
autoglym will prolly view RRP+ as a one step yes, most of the modern abrasives Ive reviewed like FG400, h8, S3 have impressive levels of gloss now, due to the use of clever DAT engineer'd abrasive systems, and people tell me for example they use S3 as a single stage or 1 step product. but this is coming down to personal preference or what your trying to achieve or maybe what your selling a s a service. If its my car Im polishing properly a seperate refining stage is really important to me. I dont use S3 as a one stage for example, when I polish the m140 eventually I want to spend a lot of time refining it with a specfic out and out finishing polish. Same principle for RRP+ for me. but if you want to refine it more then you can go over it with RR. One thing I will say is it would be cool to have a out and out refining finish polish in their abrasive range.. something for pure refining only. At least I would want that then they have the full suit kind of.
Hey John, an off topic question but have you ever considered conjuring up your own concoction of a neutral based wheel cleaner or dedicated wheel shampoo?
Hello Great video, I'm new to all this detailing, would you say after you have applied the rapid renovator +, would you apply a wax or Ceramic coat. If so which one I'm so confused. Thanks in advance.
either one.. you should degrease the surface.. put a wax if you just want quick and easy.. ceramic will last longer but its harder to apply you need a garage ideally... have a watch of how to apply a ceramic coating video to see why perhaps wax is better if your just discovering detailing
yer, feels like 105 to me mate. maybe some slight tweaks. Its a good quality abrasive. but you cant really use compound by hand or at least its not been developed for that function. use a glaze perhaps or something like SRP or poor boys if you wanna hand polish.
I just purchased this in kit form but the product inside was only the original RR not the RR+. I used a DA up to 5000RPM (white pad) on my Lambo...is this way too fast in your opinion?? The product spotted at times and dusted up quite quickly as you alluded to in the vid. I need to try this PLUS version next time. What speed do you recommend when using a DA for compounding??
I think RR is like a formula made many years ago. RR+ is a modern formulation. Who knows maybe RR will get tweaked so it behaves the same dusting wise as RR+ would be cool. so DA speeds are not really comparable to rotary. But you dont want to run your DA at full speed. DA's theres actually a lot more energy being transferred into the pad because of the way its rubbed over the surface with the orbit in different directions. If you run them at full speed you can heat up the pads and also dry the compound out faster.. you want to back them down so you can work your polish for a good 2-3 mins (depending on the product). So typically like with 6 speeds speed 4-5 or 3500-4000 rpm I guess. then you want to just set it down and let the machine do its thing over the target area. dont foce it down on the panel just let the machine sit there and move it reasonably slowly. have a watch of the machine polishing videos , like how to polish a car with a DA on the channel marconorth.. cheer m8
Im interested in seeing what this polish is like with a dual action rupes bigfoot polisher. The cut and no dusting appeals to me. Do you think i would get away with using hexlogic pads with this polish?
I have two old cars that have single stage paint (no clear coat) would you recommend this product for them and do you have any videos showing cutting and polishing of single stage paint? Any help appreciated.
yes, but it depends what your trying to achieve and what your faced with, but more often than not this abrasive will be a good choice. If your looking to 2 stage then you can combo it with an out and out finishing polish like SF3500 or 3800.
Hi ya John,would you say this is better than the S20 black? I’m a beginner with a DA iv got a golf gti mk5 tornado red (hard paint apparently) and iv swirl marks I’d like to move,iv tried the meguires ultimate compound with there red cutting disc but it didn’t really do much,the DA iv got is the auto finesse one (not sure if it’s a good one in the detailing world) one company recommended me to use S20 black with a purple spider pad saying,i said i was having trouble moving swirl masks snd the lady who also owns the shop even told me what car i had lol said it’s hard paint ect,so that’s what the recommended,I’d like to here your recommendation on what product and pad John please? A one step would be great and i don’t really have the time to spend 2/3 days on the car and the swirl marks ain’t that bad,it’s only wen the son it’s the car from an angle ...thank you, hope to get a reply
megs ultimate compound is a capable product. You can cut swirls with that. If your not getting the desired results Tony it may well be possible that hunting out other abrasives is not going to fix the problem. I would stick with ultimate compound and switch to scholl purples yes that will help. short sets with ultimate compound, clean pad out well. DA speed 4-5. If its rock hard paint with swirls it could take 3 sets of compounding to get a decent level of correction. very very hard to give advice when Im not there. If you want to step up abrasives go with Koch H9 or Scholl S2 shock 2 cut.
its pretty well priced though 25-30. Not that many develope abrasives because of the complexity, but your right they could probably sell this north of 30-40 pounds retail but they need to offer more value in the pro line i guess. (but I dont know what all the francises are actually selling it at though)
My only issue is the amount you get. While I know it's designed to be a trade product and not for home use, I could probably do every car on the street! So it's seems to be about £45 for 1kg/1l so £4.50 per 100g/100ml. If they charged £9 for a small bottle that 100% more mark up and potentially many more sales. It even seems from your demo it's a great product for beginners but only sell it in professional sizes. :(
thx gav. let me add, autoglym sell this their professional line to approved francise sellers. They dont enforce an RRP so prices vary. But the product should be around the 25-30 pound mark with the franchise sellers. some companies buy it and sell it on ebay or online for more than the franchise sellers. 45 pounds sounds a bit scorchio to me.. I agree it would be ideal to have like a 250 ml bottle of this.
Buying off eBay is likely the way weekend enthusiast like myself will end up purchasing. I can't really see why they can't sell it in smaller packaging and call it "enthusiast" range. Either they don't know enthusiasts exist (I'm sure they do) or they think it will dilute their other product ranges. As car ownership is a decreasing market you would think if they have a good product they would push it out to market. Instead they are pushing us to other products. Anyway keep up the good work. :)
@@gavjlewis trust me Ive had conversations with AG about their products lines and the detailing scene etc.. they understand "their" market better than we do. What I can say to you is the "detailing Scene" that you and I know. represents a tiny fraction of the market (a cool fraction yes, and a growing fraction but a tiny fraction) Autoglyms prime market is not just detailing hardcore guys. they supply products to tens of thousands of people each day walking in and out of halfords that have never even heard of a dual action polishers. For example if autoglym sold the equivalent of Tardis as their tar and glue remover the number of customer complaints due to not understanding the product would go up from 1 a day to 1000 a day. Thats because the mass market are not detailers and do not understand much about the product other than pointing them at the car and firing... Their retail tar remover works but it wont insta melt the tar off because its not that agressive and on ebay pre painted wings it wont melt the cheap 1k rattle can laquer that some builder used in his garage. In short AG understand really well what the mass market probably better than any entity in the country. you need to see how they roll first hand and then it all makes sense... Its a different world to the niche scene we all know and love.
@@ForensicDetailing While I wasn't suggesting they put it in the window of every Halfords! I guess as you say the enthusiast scene is not worth the hassle for a tiny market. Great video, keep them coming. :)
maybe one day, ive never been disapointed with AS stuff and Ive used a fair bit of it. I just dont tend to be drawn to it as a guy in a garage type detailing product user... so I dont tend to feature too much of it. Im not sure generally as well if many people would be interested in it and I have to try and do content that gets watched (hmm kind of anyway, Im hardly a clickbait view hoare but you know what I mean)
One of the old Evo was very aggressive. I think it was six. It was like prepping paste for blend panels. It also took a lot time to buff out the hollograms it left behind. This was about 8 years ago though. I've not seen the new ones either.
@@davethehead007averagegamer6 yea I have a bottle of that I actually used it the other day on a tail gate that was heavily scratched...... I had to use Koch chemie heavy cut the remove the deep swirls after....... not a great product the old evo 6, just wanted to see a review on the new evo range
@@davethehead007averagegamer6 I still have Autosmart R6, yes, very harsh, but great for carbon buildup removal from exhausts, light corrosion bleeding etc. Then refine these items using less harsh compounds, polishes until very shiny again.
its the Autoglym pad. Its a good cutting pad but I believe it only comes in this size. and you basically have white for cutting and black for finishing. (disclaimer i think)
Forensic Detailing Channel okay cool cool! Thank you bud! Think I’m going to try non hex logic pads from now on for easier cleaning. Side note. You need to check out PNS beadmaker. It’s AMAZING!
Forensic Detailing Channel Plus one on the PNS beadmaker I’ve paid the privilege of having it from US and is really impressive, bought a couple of months ago (I couldn’t wait) and now it will be available in uk very soon only one side note the trigger spray is not very it leaks while spraying
My dear sir, to.help.me understand this.product is...in analogy like sonax cut max, or more like the sonax ex 04-06,or mayve sych as perfect finish????? Or more like scholl s20??
more agressive than PF, or let me say it like this, PF gives a decent amount of cut but it fades down to a fine polish more rapidly. I would say RR+ is more like S3 gold XXL. and RR is more like S20. Thats a finger in the wind comparison though its not a comparison done with like any proper testing to back it up.
@@ForensicDetailing i understand now. Again thank you very.much sir.for sharing your knowledge and your.passion free with us..... Kind reegards from Athens Greece
@@zymglym χαχαχαχαχχαχαχαχχαχχ φίλε μου Θανάση ...είσαι αρχηγός.και για τους ελάχιστους που δε.ξερουν....απο τους Καλύτερους detailers στη Ευρωπη..σαγαπαμε......να έχεις καλές γιορτές.υγεια πάνω από όλα..το.ξερεισ.καλα....και ότι.επιθυμεις για την οικογένειά σου.
was a high quality production by my normal standards. seriously though is a big problem for me... gonna look at getting better tube lighting in the garage to help the camera function a bit better.
I think the RRP is around 25 quid Simon. If its in there trade range you need to get it from a local franchise seller. its a bit like a lot of the trade products from other brands they appear on other sales venues and the prices are higher.
Forensic Detailing Channel so that would make it a trade price opposed to a retail price based on it needing to be purchased through a area franchise seller of autoglym to get that price
@@tingbase84 Can of worms alert :) the whole pro line is not really a retail range. So yer if you can only get it for 45 quid and thats triggering alarm bells because you have a compound you like for a lot less, then I dont disagree, I think your point is superb actually and its useful. Let me say this. I would not pay 45 quid for a bottle of this stuff also. It could raise a wider point that if the franchise sellers are selling it for around 25 quid and making a margin. Then 45 quid is like one hell of a margin. Certain things need to come out of the wash in these videos thats why we always talk about price points, this way someone watches the review and tries to get it and gets a bad price then that persons is at least well informed about how much he is paying.
Ive passed the comment on to the makeup department.. its pretty obvious I aint no supermodel (dont let the legs fool you)... my eyes have seen better days but then again they are in good nick compared to the rest.
Love these rough around the edges videos. Reminds me of the early days of the channel!
that was a full on FDC production Chris , make up, lighting, script, director and film crew, cheese-board. We just deliberately made it look like a one man production from an idiot that cant use a camera to be more consistent with you tube standards. ;)
Still shed loads of info!
Love a wee blast down memory lane Jon, this was a RUclips recommended video lol hope u have a Merry Christmas buddy 😎👍🏻🏴
The rapid renovator is from the professional line of products. The plus cuts heavier and is easier to buff off. The ordinary rapid renovator dusts a little bit. Would love to see more Autoglym product reviews from you, John!
what do you think of rapid renovator plus Matt. I shot this kind of unedited because I wanted to sort of show just how hard you can wallop this stuff with a rotary and not get dust.
From what I've seen and read about it is a brilliant product. Honestly, I did not get my hands on it yet, but the fact that it sort of evolved from the rapid renovator which was already a very good product (I've used it quite a lot), makes it rapid renovator on steroids if you like. @@ForensicDetailing
This stuff is fantastic, best I've used on any car !
I've been using RR+ for a few months now, the results are impressive and on a par with Koch Chemie. I only use a DA and after speaking to Autoglym they said that its trial and error on speeds etc but so far no problem. I usually apply it a speeds one to two and then crank it up to four or five for the final polish. Ive managed to get significant scratches, overspray and defects removed without any need for flatting, it's also brilliant on gloss black pillar trims and headlight covers.
I'd highly recommend it. I've used it on my own car, a sixteen year old focus, and the paints like glass. But must be honest, P2.01 is still my first choice for finishing the job off.
Keep up the excellent reviews. 👍
anything you dont like about it tony?
@@ForensicDetailing To be honest no, ticks all my boxes, my only gripe is getting it out of the bottle, it's really viscous and either a dribble comes out or a big splat ends up on my trouser leg. 😂
Never had a problem with dusting, the same as yourself. I always laugh at everyone who uses srp and moans about dust. Don't use as much of it. With a damp sponge I can usually do both front wings and the bonnet with an inch of the stuff.
That’s just the old Autoglym 03b we used back in the 1990’s excellent stuff
What a great review of the Auto Glym rapid renovator +,I thought after 4 mins its would burn the paint work,but with the lubrication of the polish it done brilliant,well impressed.
Here in Madeira with 30% discount, this costs me 42€. Without discount is 59€.
How much this costs there in the UK?
I love Autoglym!!
Great review as usual, for my first DA to remove swirls would you recommend using either regular AG Rapid Renovator or AG Super Resin Polish? I have a bottle of each already so unsure if I need to invest in a new bottle of UHD Polishing Compound or RR+?. Help!
Got a bottle of RR in the cupboard. Will be getting the plus version after watching this 👍🏼
Hope you have a great Christmas John! I will be in Mexico and won't have internet! God bless you and your family 🙏
you too david merry xmas thanks for the support over the years mate
Hi John, love your channel only just discovered it! Can I ask, what’s the diff between Rapid Renovator and the Ultra High Definition Polishing Compound?
Another great video, thank mate. Have a super Christmas
Ive read a lot of comments and no prices seem concrete. I'll get the price for a trade customer tomorrow if I can and see what if we can get a price as a guide.
Great vid John... Love the video shoots that are firing from the hip. I tried this once on really hard Audi S8 paintwork and whilst it was good, it didn’t do as well as the Koch Chemie. I agree with you though that it’s good stuff. For me though the Koch Chemie seemed to make mince meat of really hard clear coat. I think after watching this video I need to give it another go. 👍🏼🎄
P.S. What are your go to microfibre cutting pads and especially for extra cutting ? Would be interested to know. Plus, looking to change the rotary and thinking Rupes or the Flex model you have - any ideas ?
Thanks John and hope you have a cracking Christmas!
H8.02 has more cut, I think thats a given. In fact H8 is perhaps one of the highest cut of the heavy compounds Ive tried (second only to SFC101). H8 is a product I love and I will always have, it won the abrasive shoot out its absolutely superb, but its not as "idiot" proof as RR+ perhaps. put H8 on a test panel and hit it for 4 mins at 1500 and it will dust up. But thats mis-using H8 of course just to make a point you would never do what Im doing in this video when polishing a car. RR+ is closer to S3 gold in cut. Very oily and thick and really nice to use, it actually breaks down smoother than S3 you dont get that initial smearing of product over the panel when you start working it it discs ups (for want of a better word straight away).. but yer as always its not always going to be the most suitable perhaps when rockhard paintwork is involved.. good stuff though for sure. If you have a test panel do the test I did on both products and you will prolly see what I mean.
Forensic Detailing Channel Thanks John - appreciate it. 👍🏼
Just for my first DA, would you recommend this for a beginner doing a heavy cut or something like koch or sonax?
jon would you know of any products you use that can be shipped to the USA. i really want to try some of the bilt hamber products and others. love this channel.
Ive been trying to do something about the specific things your asking about. And hopefully at some point soon it will happen.
thanks jon, hopefully sooner than later.
Hello Forensic detailing really need your advice this weekend i am going to give it a go to try and get a glass look on my paint work of my BMW i have seen lot and lots of your videos and really tourn to which product to use i was thinking either autoglym Deep shine, Koch H8 or the Autoglym Renovator or the Renovator plus am i going the right way with the selection and which would you advice for me to go for my plan is to wash decontaminate polish to a near glass level if i can and then ceramic coat. look forward to hearing from you Sebastian
Ok m8 watch the polishing guide in detail fundamental playlist. H8 is high cut compound. I suggest do a single stage cut n finish with schol s20
how did you get along with holograms buddy? I'm currently using my rotary and menzerna compounds and I find myself chasing holograms all the time, how does rapid renovator compare? Am I right in saying they offer a finishing pad as well? therefore cant rapid renovator be used as in all in one with some good finishing properties as well or would you still recommend going over with a good finishing polish after? love the videos pal really helpful keep up the good work!!!
hey luke, so white cutting pad (mid range pad) black finishing. with respect to autoglym theres no enough size options in their pad range to meet what Im looking for there (at least i think) Im after a range of pads in different sizes and grades so I go for the flex polishing pad range. RR+ could you hologram with it... Im pretty sure it would be possible.. if I crank up too fast during the early phase when the high and pressure the pad into the panel more, go too slow etc.. all the things which influence heat build up.. It must be possible to hollogram with it. Hollograms though generally are not a problem for me in any way shape or form. not because Im some godlike skillz merchant.. but simple you can cut swirls on a rotary at an awesome rate with sub 900 rpms. even less... no need to crank rotaries up high really unless you really want to work with decent arm speeds and really want to hit those abrasives hard and fast and then spend more time refining.. even then its not a good idea to stress clearcoat like this to cause the buffer trails and then refine them. Yvan Lacroix put a lot of good info out on this have a watch of my "botox effect hollogram" on the channel. all the things Yvan said to me about clearcoat generally have always turned out to be true and are thing you can sort of test out and play around with...
Looking for recommendations, I need a good detox shampoo trying to decontaminate my car from all cheap foam grease etc. Also would like a recommendation for a simple detailing wax. Thanks in advance. 👍✌️
Evening John!
Would you look at RRP+ as a one step product?
I love to try out new products when it comes to carcare. I see myself as an Mothers guy, sure I got products from Menzerna, Meguiars, Angelwax and so on.
When it comes to Mothers, i like to go for Mothers heavy duty together with Mothers FP, will work lika a one step with realy good outcome.
Have gone over to only DA-machine now, it takes abit longera sure, but i can skip The high sound from the rotary.
autoglym will prolly view RRP+ as a one step yes, most of the modern abrasives Ive reviewed like FG400, h8, S3 have impressive levels of gloss now, due to the use of clever DAT engineer'd abrasive systems, and people tell me for example they use S3 as a single stage or 1 step product. but this is coming down to personal preference or what your trying to achieve or maybe what your selling a s a service. If its my car Im polishing properly a seperate refining stage is really important to me. I dont use S3 as a one stage for example, when I polish the m140 eventually I want to spend a lot of time refining it with a specfic out and out finishing polish. Same principle for RRP+ for me. but if you want to refine it more then you can go over it with RR. One thing I will say is it would be cool to have a out and out refining finish polish in their abrasive range.. something for pure refining only. At least I would want that then they have the full suit kind of.
Hey John, an off topic question but have you ever considered conjuring up your own concoction of a neutral based wheel cleaner or dedicated wheel shampoo?
easy tiger dont get me started on that :)
@@ForensicDetailing.Ha ha, I'm sure you could come up with something what we all need and actually works without costing a fortune.
Hello Great video, I'm new to all this detailing, would you say after you have applied the rapid renovator +, would you apply a wax or Ceramic coat. If so which one I'm so confused. Thanks in advance.
either one.. you should degrease the surface.. put a wax if you just want quick and easy.. ceramic will last longer but its harder to apply you need a garage ideally... have a watch of how to apply a ceramic coating video to see why perhaps wax is better if your just discovering detailing
@@ForensicDetailing Hi thanks for replying swiftly! Really appreciate the help. I have subscribed to your channel!!!
@@ForensicDetailing sorry for the question what wax would you recommend for a beginner after applying the rapid renovator +
Thanks
@@moseedat autogym UHD wax is nice and soft to buff and beads great. If you wanted cheaper wax bilt hamber double speed.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks!!!
Hi John. Have you used Meguiars Ultimate Compound? and if so would there be any results at all if applied by hand?
yer, feels like 105 to me mate. maybe some slight tweaks. Its a good quality abrasive. but you cant really use compound by hand or at least its not been developed for that function. use a glaze perhaps or something like SRP or poor boys if you wanna hand polish.
Thanks for the information John and the fast reply
Is this good for first time compounding more so the regular rapid renovator
What the best cutting compound in your opinion? Thanks
have a watch of the best cutting compound video to see a larger comparison video and some recomendations based on criteria that was tested.
I just purchased this in kit form but the product inside was only the original RR not the RR+.
I used a DA up to 5000RPM (white pad) on my Lambo...is this way too fast in your opinion??
The product spotted at times and dusted up quite quickly as you alluded to in the vid. I need to try this PLUS version next time.
What speed do you recommend when using a DA for compounding??
I think RR is like a formula made many years ago. RR+ is a modern formulation. Who knows maybe RR will get tweaked so it behaves the same dusting wise as RR+ would be cool.
so DA speeds are not really comparable to rotary. But you dont want to run your DA at full speed. DA's theres actually a lot more energy being transferred into the pad because of the way its rubbed over the surface with the orbit in different directions. If you run them at full speed you can heat up the pads and also dry the compound out faster.. you want to back them down so you can work your polish for a good 2-3 mins (depending on the product). So typically like with 6 speeds speed 4-5 or 3500-4000 rpm I guess. then you want to just set it down and let the machine do its thing over the target area. dont foce it down on the panel just let the machine sit there and move it reasonably slowly. have a watch of the machine polishing videos , like how to polish a car with a DA on the channel marconorth.. cheer m8
Forensic Detailing Channel Thanks for the advice. Will watch the video you recommended. Maybe i should invest in a rotary m/c as well as some RR+
Im interested in seeing what this polish is like with a dual action rupes bigfoot polisher. The cut and no dusting appeals to me. Do you think i would get away with using hexlogic pads with this polish?
yes mate for sure hex logic no problem.
I have two old cars that have single stage paint (no clear coat) would you recommend this product for them and do you have any videos showing cutting and polishing of single stage paint? Any help appreciated.
mark see algae lichen and moss bringing a nakered car back from the brink video.. using RR+ on single stage red paint...
Thanks John will check it out now.
Great video as always 👍🎅👍🎅
So you could wax straight after and no need polish ..?
if you are waxing after using it then you have already polished m8
Would you recommend this on a DA?
yes, but it depends what your trying to achieve and what your faced with, but more often than not this abrasive will be a good choice. If your looking to 2 stage then you can combo it with an out and out finishing polish like SF3500 or 3800.
Great review as always john and as always still doing a good amount of product/bottle slapping haha.
Have a good crimbo.
you tube Jason thanks mate
Hi ya John,would you say this is better than the S20 black? I’m a beginner with a DA iv got a golf gti mk5 tornado red (hard paint apparently) and iv swirl marks I’d like to move,iv tried the meguires ultimate compound with there red cutting disc but it didn’t really do much,the DA iv got is the auto finesse one (not sure if it’s a good one in the detailing world) one company recommended me to use S20 black with a purple spider pad saying,i said i was having trouble moving swirl masks snd the lady who also owns the shop even told me what car i had lol said it’s hard paint ect,so that’s what the recommended,I’d like to here your recommendation on what product and pad John please? A one step would be great and i don’t really have the time to spend 2/3 days on the car and the swirl marks ain’t that bad,it’s only wen the son it’s the car from an angle ...thank you, hope to get a reply
megs ultimate compound is a capable product. You can cut swirls with that. If your not getting the desired results Tony it may well be possible that hunting out other abrasives is not going to fix the problem. I would stick with ultimate compound and switch to scholl purples yes that will help. short sets with ultimate compound, clean pad out well. DA speed 4-5. If its rock hard paint with swirls it could take 3 sets of compounding to get a decent level of correction. very very hard to give advice when Im not there.
If you want to step up abrasives go with Koch
H9 or Scholl S2 shock 2 cut.
Ah good old AG. They should stick it in a fancy bottle, give it a fancy name, charge £70 a bottle for it and it would fly off the shelves.
its pretty well priced though 25-30. Not that many develope abrasives because of the complexity, but your right they could probably sell this north of 30-40 pounds retail but they need to offer more value in the pro line i guess. (but I dont know what all the francises are actually selling it at though)
How does this product compare to g3 premium?
Hi I’m new to detailing and I’m looking at getting the RR+ and I wanted to know could I use the super resin polish after machine polishing with RR+ ?
Yes u can m8
Buffing off wasn't that impressive... until I cleaned my tablet 😂🤣
hah :)
What's your verdict on Menzerna 3 in 1 ?
not used but SF3500 and SF3800 are perhaps my favorite pair of finishing polishes on the market. Menzerna do some good stuff.
John, reckon their aqua blade are more abrasive than this pair? 😂
no comment they know where I live :)
Can you do small parts by hand?
kind of yes but its like 10 times slower
Why do you hit everything John 😂
It seems in2detailing website is down!
ive pinged imran he will whack some more coins in the meter and it will come back soon I reckon.
@@ForensicDetailing I hope so, last minute Christmas pressies for my Dad and Brother
Is it better than Scholl S20 Black?
Its as high quality as s20 black.but its I think it delivers more cut Paul. In my head I compare more to S3 gold.
loves slapping that bottle 🤣
HELP!!! Can anyone tell me the difference between Rapid Renovator and the newer UHD polishing compound? Don’t know which one to get
I'm not sure m8 I would ask autoglym they will help
@@ForensicDetailing no probs pal will do thanks
My only issue is the amount you get. While I know it's designed to be a trade product and not for home use, I could probably do every car on the street! So it's seems to be about £45 for 1kg/1l so £4.50 per 100g/100ml. If they charged £9 for a small bottle that 100% more mark up and potentially many more sales. It even seems from your demo it's a great product for beginners but only sell it in professional sizes. :(
thx gav. let me add, autoglym sell this their professional line to approved francise sellers. They dont enforce an RRP so prices vary. But the product should be around the 25-30 pound mark with the franchise sellers. some companies buy it and sell it on ebay or online for more than the franchise sellers. 45 pounds sounds a bit scorchio to me..
I agree it would be ideal to have like a 250 ml bottle of this.
Buying off eBay is likely the way weekend enthusiast like myself will end up purchasing.
I can't really see why they can't sell it in smaller packaging and call it "enthusiast" range. Either they don't know enthusiasts exist (I'm sure they do) or they think it will dilute their other product ranges.
As car ownership is a decreasing market you would think if they have a good product they would push it out to market. Instead they are pushing us to other products.
Anyway keep up the good work. :)
@@gavjlewis trust me Ive had conversations with AG about their products lines and the detailing scene etc.. they understand "their" market better than we do. What I can say to you is the "detailing Scene" that you and I know. represents a tiny fraction of the market (a cool fraction yes, and a growing fraction but a tiny fraction) Autoglyms prime market is not just detailing hardcore guys. they supply products to tens of thousands of people each day walking in and out of halfords that have never even heard of a dual action polishers.
For example if autoglym sold the equivalent of Tardis as their tar and glue remover the number of customer complaints due to not understanding the product would go up from 1 a day to 1000 a day. Thats because the mass market are not detailers and do not understand much about the product other than pointing them at the car and firing... Their retail tar remover works but it wont insta melt the tar off because its not that agressive and on ebay pre painted wings it wont melt the cheap 1k rattle can laquer that some builder used in his garage.
In short AG understand really well what the mass market probably better than any entity in the country. you need to see how they roll first hand and then it all makes sense... Its a different world to the niche scene we all know and love.
@@ForensicDetailing While I wasn't suggesting they put it in the window of every Halfords!
I guess as you say the enthusiast scene is not worth the hassle for a tiny market. Great video, keep them coming. :)
Your best bet is to find someone who you can split a bottle with. Im in the trade and have access to our local Autoglym man. I'm in Kent.
Hi do you reckon you could do a review on the new autosmart evo compounds..... Would love to see that
maybe one day, ive never been disapointed with AS stuff and Ive used a fair bit of it. I just dont tend to be drawn to it as a guy in a garage type detailing product user... so I dont tend to feature too much of it. Im not sure generally as well if many people would be interested in it and I have to try and do content that gets watched (hmm kind of anyway, Im hardly a clickbait view hoare but you know what I mean)
One of the old Evo was very aggressive. I think it was six. It was like prepping paste for blend panels. It also took a lot time to buff out the hollograms it left behind. This was about 8 years ago though. I've not seen the new ones either.
@@davethehead007averagegamer6 yea I have a bottle of that I actually used it the other day on a tail gate that was heavily scratched...... I had to use Koch chemie heavy cut the remove the deep swirls after....... not a great product the old evo 6, just wanted to see a review on the new evo range
@@davethehead007averagegamer6 I still have Autosmart R6, yes, very harsh, but great for carbon buildup removal from exhausts, light corrosion bleeding etc. Then refine these items using less harsh compounds, polishes until very shiny again.
Anyone know what pad that is?
its the Autoglym pad. Its a good cutting pad but I believe it only comes in this size. and you basically have white for cutting and black for finishing. (disclaimer i think)
Forensic Detailing Channel okay cool cool! Thank you bud! Think I’m going to try non hex logic pads from now on for easier cleaning. Side note. You need to check out PNS beadmaker. It’s AMAZING!
@@MONSTERO7 have a look on the forensic detailing page on facebook ;)
Forensic Detailing Channel
Plus one on the PNS beadmaker I’ve paid the privilege of having it from US and is really impressive, bought a couple of months ago (I couldn’t wait) and now it will be available in uk very soon only one side note the trigger spray is not very it leaks while spraying
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My dear sir, to.help.me understand this.product is...in analogy like sonax cut max, or more like the sonax ex 04-06,or mayve sych as perfect finish????? Or more like scholl s20??
more agressive than PF, or let me say it like this, PF gives a decent amount of cut but it fades down to a fine polish more rapidly. I would say RR+ is more like S3 gold XXL. and RR is more like S20. Thats a finger in the wind comparison though its not a comparison done with like any proper testing to back it up.
@@ForensicDetailing i understand now. Again thank you very.much sir.for sharing your knowledge and your.passion free with us.....
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camera was acting wonky, and the video was dark
was a high quality production by my normal standards. seriously though is a big problem for me... gonna look at getting better tube lighting in the garage to help the camera function a bit better.
More like £45 for the rapid plus so not at such a good price point the 3m system is better priced
I think the RRP is around 25 quid Simon. If its in there trade range you need to get it from a local franchise seller. its a bit like a lot of the trade products from other brands they appear on other sales venues and the prices are higher.
Forensic Detailing Channel so that would make it a trade price opposed to a retail price based on it needing to be purchased through a area franchise seller of autoglym to get that price
@@tingbase84 Can of worms alert :) the whole pro line is not really a retail range. So yer if you can only get it for 45 quid and thats triggering alarm bells because you have a compound you like for a lot less, then I dont disagree, I think your point is superb actually and its useful. Let me say this. I would not pay 45 quid for a bottle of this stuff also. It could raise a wider point that if the franchise sellers are selling it for around 25 quid and making a margin. Then 45 quid is like one hell of a margin. Certain things need to come out of the wash in these videos thats why we always talk about price points, this way someone watches the review and tries to get it and gets a bad price then that persons is at least well informed about how much he is paying.
If I could get it easily at that price I’d be all over it as I really like autoglym trade products
Your eyes look painful, allergies?
Ive passed the comment on to the makeup department.. its pretty obvious I aint no supermodel (dont let the legs fool you)... my eyes have seen better days but then again they are in good nick compared to the rest.