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I reached out to John with some questions about compounds, polishes, and pads on a Sunday on Facebook a few weeks ago. He responded rather quickly and answered a few other questions I ad. Admirable to say the least. The information John provides and the level of detail mixed with honesty is hard to come by in any field.
Raige93 - which makes me so surprised when there are only 24k subscribers! I find him interesting in his details and always gives products a fair and balanced reviews.
@@gazgandalf4854 others thought so too ... no we're at 50k subsrivers, doulbed in the last 10 months
Hes a leg
Now already 250k+ .. he's the best and can be a good instructor.
I use menzerna 3500 and 3800. They both finish flawlessly even with a rotary in a black paint. I choose one or the other depending on paint hardness.
Great video. Please could you do a shootout on 1 step compounds like Scholl S20 black, Sonax 04-06, Menzerna, etc
Sir, your videos are the best. One of the best if not the best comparison video on youtube. Same goes for your compounds video.
Really enjoying these videos! Would love to see you test 1-step compounds like Sonax Cut & Finish and Scholl's S20 Black. Also, I wish 3D HD product were available to you. I've always considered HD Polish+ and Scholl's S40 & S30+ to be the best finishing abrasives.
I'd also love to see you test out the 1-step cleaner waxes or AIO's. HD Speed, Menzerna 3n1, Meguiar's D166, etc.
You should do an indepth forensic video on why you make all the other detailing related channels look like a bunch of amateurs.haha. You're too nice of a guy to say it but we're all thinking it.
Merry Christmas John!
appreciate the kind words. the whole you tube game is a wierd thing. tbh this channel doesnt function very well as a proper you tube channel. everything is too long and the production is not great and that effects the take up and growth of it, its a slow growing small channel. The channels that get this right, deserve all their success, its such a hard thing to go in front of the camera and put out info and remain credible.
really enjoying doing the channel at the moment, its been such a cool way to interact with so many cool people. I think a lot of the people that watch FDC are really into their detailing. because the quality of the info that comes back in the comments is always first class, I read it and sort of get good steers on other products to check out. merry xmas matt
Great video. Sonax Perfect Finish is a phenomenal polish to use as a one step.
Haven't watched yet but no need to. Instant like! Best reviews on RUclips
I have both the Menzerna polishes plus 205 but recently have used the Rupes polishes with excellent results.
Incredible comparison, I’ve used 3500 and m205 both great products but work so differently
You take detailing to another level. 😎
Rich from Iowa USA. Thank you sir for all your videos. Very informative. Go UK.
I use M205 as my go-to polish and have for years. I bought a gallon of the stuff for $25 when a local detail shop closed it’s doors, so I’m sitting on a lifetime supply. Per your recommendation Jon, I have added Menzerna 3800 to my arsenal as either a jeweling polish, or occasionally as a stand alone product for “super light” micro-marring. Menzerna 3800 tends to leave slightly more gloss than M205, but of course has less cutting ability to remove light to moderate swirls. Merry Christmas from St. Louis, Missouri (USA).
Hey Steve, you're only 2 hours from me! I'm in Wappapello, MO. Good to see another detailer so close!
hi, I'm using menerza 3800 on my dining room table....I'm not a detailer, but enjoying learning a little bit, you seen to have much respect from your followers--congrats....my question: how do you get the oily residue off the finish....I'm trying to make it look better before Christmas and don't have the time for many for hours on youtube!!!.....thank you
Merry Christmas, Jon. Thank for getting me hooked to detailing this year, your videos are far superior to all other detailing reviewers out there and I am looking forward to more in 2018! Keep up the great work.
Holy shit this is the most underated channel
thank you for kind words.
Hey Jon! You never disappoint. Just one question though. Did you remove the oils left by the polishes before testing the gloss?
Hello. Do You use paint cleaner like IPA solution or Panel Wipe before gloss readings? Because absolutely all polishes ( some more, some less) leaves thin film
which will mask imperfections and add some gloss. BTW for this reason I stop using Sonax PF as a one step polish, only for finishing/jewelling stage. PF is not so abrasive as shown on label.
Thanks for Your videos, watch them all.
Greatings from Lithuania :)
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Another great review. Short and sweet! Enjoying your videos and all they’re teaching me in the art of detailing. Thank you.
I've never used a machine polisher before, but fancy getting one. I'm torn between the Scholl S20 and the Scholl S40. I've got a 9 year old Focus, so it's nothing fancy, but I do want to improve the gloss finish a bit. I tend to polish and wax by hand twice a year, so the paintwork is in pretty good nick. What would you recommend between the two compounds? Is the S40 going to give a good finish, or would I just be better getting the S20? I use Autoglym Super Resin Polish and their HD wax currently. Thanks in advance for any recommendations
you need a machine polisher to use the scholl products. IF no polisher go for SRP mate.
ive only just heard about car detailing, I find it fascinating, thank you for your very informative videos, love them, marry Christmas . all the best
I’m on G360 and G3 for polish and gloss as I know it. Step one and two. The step three is a sealant. What is the negative of skipping step 3. I sell cars for a living and enjoy to buff but want a good end result and sell in a cost effective time
Enjoying watching your videos - Following your guides I did a decontamination and DA polish today on the bonnet of my Mineral Grey BMW for paint correction. Pleased with the results on removal of the light swirl marks but I've ended up with white polish spots in the tiny stone chips looks terrible.! I've tried using IPA and quick detail spray got some of the polish out the chips but still looks like it's been dusted with white spray. Got any tips to get the polish out?
How do you feel about the Rupes compounds and polishes?
Great video Jon. Just a quick question on the Menzerna 3500. I’ve given that a try using my DAS6 Pro and a Meguiar’s black finishing pad on a cool day. No matter what speed I set my polisher to it just threw grey dust everywhere after two sets of horizontal & vertical passes. I’m new to this polishing lark so was a bit disappointed with that. Have you any idea what I’ve done wrong?
Hi John! While you were planning this video did you took in consideration CarPro Essence? Do you have any experience with it? 'Cause here in Italy it is meant to be The finishing polish.. 🤔
The signature trait of perfect finish for me is it's ability to finish down great on basically any paint. Great on sticky paints and solid colors without clear coat etc. If you are having trouble getting a desired finish on a car in the future, try the pf, it's almost fool proof.
Im sure its gonna be very solid.. but ive been a bit put off by the range and how sonax have developed it to be used. had a good chat with another guy about it in this video comments below. that and the huge price tag we pay for it in the Uk? why when you can get fantastic abrasives for 30 quid a litre, why pay 44? Its priced off the market over here and sonax have want you to use it on a rotary with wierd tilt sets... just bizarre.. developed for body shop and instructions written for people that want to compound out sanding marks in 20 seconds.. thats not me. when I use it the way I want to use it thats wrong apparently. so im sulking :(
Forensic Detailing Channel Yeah, they should probably redo the instructions on the bottle cause pf can really be used with any machine and just like any other polish.
Great video as always Jon. Always looking forward to your videos. Thanks for your reviews through out the year. Greatly appreciated. Happy Holidays from LA, California.🎄🎄😎😎❄️❄️⛄️☃️
Charles detail N LA in the house. :)
I agree the Sonax Perfect Finish is aggressive for a finishing style polish. However, paired with a Rupes yellow pad is makes for an excellent 1 step on any color.
Another very watchable Vid/review and the Koc Kemie is rocking the Scoll brigade. It does seem like the manufactures are upping their game for with the more options on the market now.
Interesting you showed various rotary machines, but no DA?
Although mentioned before, look forward to comments about these products along with pads used.
Happy Christamas Jon.
Did you use the same pad with all polishes? Looks like a hexlogic pad? Because that can change the results quite a bit. Some polishes like hardar pads etc. But really good video you answerd my questions about sonax pf thst ive heard so much good about in esoteric channel. Now i wouldnt buy it. Im curious about the scholl s40 but i have s1 s2bss and then megs m205 and menzerna sf3800 that got my eyes in your earlier vids. But maybe it isnt necessary to use s40 or sf3800 that ive not tried yet when ive done m205 before. My plan is to do compounding then m205 with a medium pad and then jewelling for maximum gloss with sf3800 and a soft pad.
Whats your thoughts about that jon?
Wish you a merry christmas and a hapoy new year and looking forward to a new year of greatest detailing videos on the planet.
Youre a smart funny guy with the best testing and content on youtube.
Cheers!
Is S40 good to follow up after cutting stage with S3 Gold Xxl? Or should I go for S30?
Sonax is great for those 1 step paint correction jobs. Cuts well and finishes "perfect".
I’m using menzerna 3800...my favorite that I’ve used
Great vid and find myself watching it over and over. I’ve purchased the scholl s40, will this be alright on my electric orange paintwork as all the ads seem so guide it for dark paint. Thanks John
Shaun
works on all paint types shaun remember your black paint or orange paint or white paint, then has a layer of clearcoat over the top so its really clearcoat your working on
Forensic Detailing Channel great point! Thanks fella. Keep up with that great educational vids 👍
Forensic Detailing Channel also I’ve got the s30 xxl, so I prep the paint with this first then hit it with the s40?
@@shaunvoss1895 S3 xxl you mean right.. because there also exists a scholl polish called s30. (so you can cut the swirls out with S3 and then gloss and refine it with S40) this is a 2 stage cut and finish polish.
Forensic Detailing Channel yeah that’s what I meant lol. Thanks for all your help mate
Awesome video. I am new to the detailing scene and this is exactly what I have been looking for, as I have been confused what polish to go buy. I have already picked up a bottle of meguiars ultimate compound, but will get the s40 polish or maybe the menzerna sf. If I needed a deeper cut compound for the bad marks could you suggest which menzerna compound would be best.Thanks and subscribed.
Such great videos - you cut through the BS and give us the information we want. Thank you so much.
Was a tad confused here. Looks like you use the word compound and polish interchangeably and see that the products are actually a polish. Was there a previous step prior to polishing and testing gloss results ? Also the test panel is a flat small panel with a 3" DA which has very little orbit ( I believe 3/16" ). The other test panel ( the larger one ) is with a larger DA perhaps a Mikita . I did not hear the orbit size mentioned and am curious as to what the orbit is. I liked the pad as it has an octagon face on the high spots... I believe at least what I can see when you are dabbing the pad on the larger panel. Also by observing the Blue DA it appears the speed was about 4. ? How important is it to cross hatch you do not appear to be doing this you use a east west where as I use a east west north south and overlap 50% as you show. Personally I do not like swirl removers as a polish step and believe that they are actually a glaze which is a filler and most are a temporary fix. You have opened my eyes to trying S 40 by Abrafie looks like a fantastic product. Great information. Thank you
Nice review. Another good compound and polish are griots garage boss correcting cream and boss perfecting cream.
So Meguires M205 is good to go if not for price? Cause I just picked up a a 32oz bottle for $24.99 (US) on sale.
Hi Jon! I love your videos. They have really helped me understand a lot about detailing. I have one question regarding Scholl S40 and its ability to remove swirl marks. With S40 I were able to remove the most visible swirl marks but after polishing there are still som light/micro swirls left. Shouldn’t S40 also be able to remove those given that it removed the more visible ones? Should I go for a more aggressive compound? I am using a DA polisher. Thanks in advance!
Is finishing polish enough for a brand new car that doesn't have heavy scratches before applying wax?
Outstanding job young man. I always enjoy your vids. Very informative.. Thank you very much..
What have farecla done with G3. Pick up some cut and finish. Not much work time. I like to spritz water and slow speed buff cross hatch again working the product longer. Even over the glass spatter after just save on elbow grease with the micro fiber
Watched loads of your videos your channel is my detailing bible love it
Absolutely first class information I'm absorbing it all like a Liquid Elements Silverback😁
Hi Jon, Have you used the Scholl S30+ ? I watched your review on the S20 Black and the S40 comes out well here and wondered where you think the S30 fits in the mix?
I have not used it mate only s3 s20 s40 and s17
I’m new into all these choices I have the m205 on order should be in tomorrow YES thanks for sharing
sonax to me is a light cutting compoud, I used it on bike parts , is great on tanks, where you need a low cutting rate because of the shape,etc
yer see what your saying, although get perfect finish on a rotary and work it harder and perhaps faster and it has a really decent level of mid range cut, specially for something that looks so good. its a good abrasive.
@@ForensicDetailing I like what you said ' it is definitley not a 'finishing' polish'. on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is heaviest compound and 10 is finishing polish, mid is 4,5,6, this is a 7.5/8.5 on the scale. Like you I want finishing polish at 9/10 on my scale..
For polishing, finishing after compound do you prefer using finishing soft pads or polishing pads. And is it better to use slower speed for finishing than cutting?
It depends really on what your doing, if your using them to refine a cut finish or if your using them on their own to remove some light swirls and bring up the finish. If Im just doing on polishing set I actually like to work the finishing polishers faster and then lift a bit towards the end of the set, but really its not going to make much odds. the main thing as always is to work all areas of the piece you are covering and gloss it all up. the finesse tips and tricks you hear can be overkill. the abrasive will deliver a certain level of finish as long as you work it sufficently. the finishing stage is really important though.. if you want to max it out.. do a second or 3 set at slower rotational speeds and hardly any pressure and just keep refining. would say Id typically researve that for high end detailing because the difference is hard to spot.
I have only ever used scholl S20 black.it got rid of a lot of damage on the clear coat and it did leave a lovely shine on my car.in the new year I'm going to buy scholl S3 gold XXL and s40.
have you ever experienced difficulties with compound or f.polish because storing them in cold garage ? ( i presume there is quite cold because we can see your breath :)
This and the cutting compound vid have been interesting Jon boy! For me I've been an Scholl & Sonax person....many, many years ago Farecla & 3M......Bodyshop bash it out days!!😱😜😆.... sorry I digress, last 6 month's was introduced to Koch (H8, P2 & M2) products and these are now my go-to with Scholl (S3gold, S20black & S40) still in my kit bag.....still use Sonax perfect finish (until it's empty) as a one step for new car preps, ready for coating. No equipment/product secrets with me! Totally agree with your findings, Jon, KC & Scholl for me👍 Top vid, Jon, merry xmas mate
great stuff miles, koch is definetly impressive. the h8 really gives you something different to S3 as well, I cant see what else you need in terms of heavy cutting compounds beyond these 2 products.
Gents, when looking at a new car prep, and polishing the clear coat with v. minimal cut or abrasion to it, is it S40 over S20 Black? Or is the another polishing compound which is more appropriate for new car. Afterwards I'll seal with Moonlight/Wet Coat. Thanks in anticipation.
Did you by chance try a black pad with any of these polishes and see if the gloss meter went up? It's what Optimum recommends to polish with as it leaves the "nicest surface" according to them. Also Lake Country agrees with that as well. What do you think?
I have not done that test on the gloss meter comparing like a polishing pad with a very softer sort of finishing pad. my guess is its going to be really hard to be able to measure a difference in what gloss I can max out at. maybe thats one to video for the future trent
Try this out please, I'd like to see if it makes a measurable difference or if it's just jeweling "placebo".
Interesting test. I find M205 to finish pretty good on most paint, but definitely not soft black paint. Leaves lots of micro marring behind, IME.
If I’m prepping to add paint to stone chips do I cut first add paint? or add paint and cut?
Im ordering compound and finishing polish koch h9 and koch h m3 ( those product from new line) could you tell me if its still best options for gloss and cut thank you
Menzerna 3800 plus is just great
Please could you put out a video on what the best cutting pads and finishing pads we should use on a machine polisher and how we should maintain them
gonna do something on this area this year. problem is it will cost a fortune. gonna see if I can get some distributors to provide the pads. its gonna be a tough one to do because you have different pads for different machines etc.. and different formats of pad. but will try.. will prolly be a few videos.
Forensic Detailing Channel cheers dude don't rush take your time. Thanks for getting back. Great in depth review channel keep it up.
Can you spot difference between gloss level of 98 and 100. Is it 2% only? Or it doest work like that?
No human can.
Hi John, just wondering if you have tested the gloss readings for s20?
for removing very light swirl marks by Hand which would you recommend ?
Whilst gloss is obviously important in a finishing polish, that's only half of the battle - some will look much crisper and wetter than others due to a few different reasons but their initial abrasiveness is obviously a big reason. Scholl S40 is the flat out ultra finishing polish IMO. 5000 grit means it has minimal cut which allows an incredibly crisp finish with insane definition which the more abrasive 'finishing polishes' can't beat. Oh, and on dark colours, especially black, S40 darkens the colour and is the best finishing polish I've ever used. To use it though, the car needs to be near flawless as S40 has very little cut.
Does Sonax PF cut better than Koch M2/M3? Especially I am interested this for German clear coats.
yes, PF is more a single stage. M2 M3 are more finishing polishes
Nice as always.
@Forensic Detailing Channel one question regarding the gloss meter, are you using the 60 degree or the 20 degree angle?
60 mate. I just could not afford a tri or dual angel one. I loose accuracy above 80 gloss but it still gives me an indicator. ideally I would get like the elcometer or rhiopoint full DOI haze and tri band if budget were not a consideration
That could explain why you didn't get much difference between finishing polishes. The 20degree is recommended for gloss paint, as you get much more accuracy in the top end of the scale. For 60 degrees you have best accuracy in the middle of the range, which works for semi-gloss paint.
could be but Ive used a 20 deg and I think its hard to get the gloss up much beyond the hundreds. the meter was able to pick up over 20 readings a consistent 1.5-2.0 GU less on one particular panel. so it seems consistent. But yer I would be interested to know if the 20 deg one would have given different readings. I think they would more or less be the same but perhaps more accurate.
There a couple of things to consider. Over 70GU on 60deg you should change to 20deg (there's an article on wiki regarding gloss meters). You don't need to target >100GU, because it's not a real measure. Especially for this case, we need to be able to tell a very glossy surface form an exceptionally glossy one :)
Consistent readings doesn't mean they are accurate. On the 60deg all give high readings, which limits your range. It's like having 2 engines which have max power at 7k rpm but you rev them only up to 6k :) Hope it makes sense.
yep I know all about the limitations tony, I research before I went to buy and I got an overview on how they work from the AG tech guy when i first encountered them. the accuracy tail off gets significant though above 90 gu really but yes it starts at around 70.
the loss of accuracy is consistent which allows for comparison. but as a true indication of the gloss you need 20 deg for high gloss. problem is forensic laboratories HQ incorporated cant afford the cost of the tri band ones from a good manufacturer :( maybe one day.
thing is its still really handy for me. If have 10 test panels 5 refined using a high gloss cutting compound to 95 gu. 5 refined to 100 gu with finishing polish. and got 10 people to try and seperate whats what. they would not be able to. the eyes cant spot it. but even the 60 deg meter can. So it gives me something I curently dont have for comparison but I dont really use it for any definitive readings in terms of final values.
A way bigger variable than accuracy is how you calibrate and also the flatness of the surface. Even on the expensive ones you can alter the readings massivly with pressure and inconsistent calibration. you have to be careful with how you use them and take lots of readings generally.
Nothing wrong with a bit of cut in your Glaze ( Sonax UltraCut)
Jon what do you think of the angel wax compounds compared to scholl like the lubricant system
Just wondering what you make those small square test panels out of?! Thanks!
Hi John, I always finish with the Scholl S30 after the S3. I find it a very easy to use polish and in my opinion with the same gloss rating as the S40? Can you tell me if there is a difference between these two?
Ive not used S30. Scholl rate the gloss as 6/6 which matches S40. Its dimishing but has more cut.
Im not 100% sure if its gonna have a less glossy finish than s40. my gut instinct thinks s40 would be able to refine the paint more. but Im guessing here. If it is less glossey your eyes might not be able to spot it.. We could be talking literally a couple of units of gloss that a meter might be able to read.
Without playing around with it I shouldnt really guess. but S20 also has a gloss rating of 6/6 but I think s40 will refine paint to a higher finish (as long as your giving it a suitable starting point, for example your not using it to refine a hazed up rough finish)
S30 is excellent but S40 takes it a step further. S30 is more versatile though as it has more bite. S40 can't be beaten for a wet and crisp finish - it is Scholl's ultra finishing polish and that's the reason why it can only take out 5000 grit scratches, so the finish can be as flat and crisp as possible.
Hi the s40 swirl polish is recommended on dark colored cars, can you recommended something for cutting and something for fine polishing for a alpine white bmw? i have just bought a DAS6 PRO and only have meguiars ultimate compound which did leave some swirls behind as my BMW is hard paint. Regards scott
so S3 gold is a good heavy cut dimishing compound. And s40 is a final finish product. You have some in between products in the scholl concepts range like S17, and s20 1 step. these will work well on your das6 pro on the BMW.
I have a alpine white BMW and used Menzeena FG400 for cutting. It's good for light swirls but maybe for deeper ones you'll need a heavier compound. I'm buying Koch H8 or Menzerna M100 to get rid of scratches made by bushes on the left side of the car.
Another great video mate nice one. I already have the scholl so I’m happy with the result! 👍🏻Can I ask hat speed should I be using with s40 on a long throw rotary? (Black car!) cheers mate
long throw DA right? (or normal kind of high speed rotary). there is no right or wrong. I tend to whizz up the finishing polishes fast to just work the abrasives and refine the finish. and then either slow down and back off. or do a second polishing set with a lower speed and less pressure. sometimes though I just work them for a set and stop. using the finishing polishes is always nice and its the last chance to bring up the gloss. If your cutting then refining you might use them different to if your just giving the car a light finish. but try on the rotary working them at 900-1000 for 30second to a minute. and then slowing down and backing off for a minute roughly. that will deliver you high gloss.
Forensic Detailing Channel long throw DA mate that’s what I meant. Cheers pal will give it a go once the weathers back a bit
Keep it up , have a nice Christmas Jon , and here's looking forward to 2018 for the channel !!
Thanks for your research man. It's very helpful.....keep on these videos
I recently polished my car with meguiars microfiber beret and polish koch-chemie h9 ...
I was unsure whether to use the koch-chemie m3.02 micro cut or the sonax perfect finish, which of the 2 leaves the best finish for a white paint ?!
PF is a single stage cut and finish in 1 product. M3 is a finishing polish use to remove micro marring or holograms from the cutting process (or just gloss up paint).. So use M3 after H9, unless you want to cut more after H9.
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if i want to cut some more, then i use sonax perfect finish with a finishing cap .... leave the finishing done and cut a little more ... am i right?
@@ForensicDetailing you know what happened to me, in order to polish the car with a meguiers or lake cuntry microfiber disc and with polish h9, I ended up finishing it, I made 2 squares to see which one gives the best shine, I used in an essence square with a rupes finishing cap, and I used sonax perfect finish with a rupes finishing cap, the problem is that the brightness was exactly the same as the cut of the h9, that is, I didn’t see any improvements ....
My car is white, is it because the h9 cut polish was short and finished?
In your intro it looks like you have steam coming out of your Air Conditioner do you have a video explaining what you are doing there and how to do it?
Hi John. I don't speak very well English so I have difficult to understand the best finishing polish for best gloss for you. Can you write for me a little rank? I need it for best mirror effect
the problem is all of them except for sonax PF put down virtually identical levels of gloss as far as I could read.
I really cant tell you out of those 5 which matched which is the most glossy. Id be making it up as they are all so close..
but I guess going by the glossmeter Koch gave the highest individual reading following by M205. After that probably S40 and fs4000 and DK finale were about the same.
I'm a newbie. I bought a 2019 jeep grand Cherokee. I want a wax or something that gives me the highest gloss I can get. I'm not a detailed. Just a regular guy that wants the best treatment and look for the car exterior.
Easy to apply, last, beads, brings out paint glitter and best reflective shine.
Suggestions please. Thx
have fun with it Phil. Try something like collenite 915, Fusso Wax, Bilt hamber double speed, UHD by autoglym. Those are all good waxes. Maybe try the new meguiars hybrid ceramic wax which uses SI02, have a watch of my review of this as well.
Yeah I think the Sonax needed putting to one side, its too heavy a cut, and an s20 alternative, not a bad thing as its a great 1 step but not a lst step or 205 alternative.
video title says Best finishing Polish i Bought Scholl s40 But product says its a Compound not a Polish can i use it after Koch chemie h9 01 cut compound ?
yes S40 is ultra fine polish (dont worry about the word compound really although yer that typically means more agressive protect) you can use S40 after H9. as a general rule though I tend to pair products with the brand.
@@ForensicDetailing im a Beginner your videos and Guidance help me so Much thank You so Much❤
So would the Sonax be a good one step then
Good stuff John...Recently purchased Sonax PF and yes it's expensive. I was also surprised to see the rating on bottle at 4 for cut so I'm keen to see how it stands up against S20. I was able to remove 2000gt sanding marks using PF and wool pad on rotary which is really more an " I'm just saying " statement rather than boasting about it's cutting power.. But it was a late model Honda so paint soft. The winner here is the Gloss Meter which was able to separate the tiny differences. All hail the Gloss Meter... To the naked eye it would be hard pressed to separate these...I guess it really comes down to brand preference and price for us consumers, paint/environmental conditions for polish and technique of detailer. Unless one needs to water down one's polish for softer paints....Me Lord. It's a weird thing because once I select which one I'm using I always wonder as I'm working would the others have been a better choice...Detailers Mind Games 101.
I think its good to keep trying stuff always but theres so many new products hitting the market you could almost change abrasives every month :)
It all comes down to $$$$...There's a lot of products and it would be helpful if cheaper samples were readily available. They're like laundry detergents always new and improved. I'm a big fan of Menzerna 4000. BTW Sonax PF isn't sold here in Aus so I had to search Eng/EU/US...Cheapest I could find was $119aud/LT from US....Ouch!!!!
Brilliant follow up. Thanks for sharing!
Hi bro,do you have low cost ?
Great video as always. I just recently tried a new polish called the last cut compound if you haven't already tried it you should. Thanks
I know this is a old video but I just want to see what to use to polish a brand new black truck that has misc cobweb scratches, water spots but overall the gloss is new but I’m having a hard time picking up a polish that will get them off in 1 step.
Koch Chemie H9 F6 M3 H9 cut with M3 finish F6 single stage of cut on softer paints with M3
We need a video for the best one step would like to se f6 in it also does h8 and h9 have same gloss?
Good video again. S40 is mildern than the other polishes ans i would use it only on very soft paints. S30 would be in same category with the rest. M205 cuts most.and like ita bigger brothers, it is a smat polishs. My favourites are M201 and Gyeon polish.
john as kids we used to always say...red sky at night shepherd's delight, red sky in the morning, the barn's on fire..lol...cheers for the vid...have you tried the last cut yet that has been developed by a detailer in the usa, supposed to be nice, seem reviews on apex details with Brian and Sandro in oz on the car craft auto detailing in melbourne.
high there not treid last cut. I dont think its available in the UK yet richard?
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Another great video. Thanks for the infobyou are sharing with us.
Hi John. What is the music on the start of your videos? Thanks!
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Would you recommend Zaino Z8 Grand Finale Spray Sealant?? Great videos.
Super video, outstanding information.excellent work mate.
Hi John, i watched a lot videos of you and i like your approuch on everything! But i never see you use the brand "Monello". i don't know if you have it in the UK? Maybe you can do one of your next videos about the brand?
It's funny to see what other people think.. Here in Italy the school of thought is a bit closed on CarPro Essence and Angelwax Resurrection (As finishing and cutting). It's interesting to see a good alternative (Scholl) which is cheaper and gives the same results!
Jon jon jon please could you do a review on 3d one. I'd be very interested on your thoughts. Regards
Very interesting and eye opening, I’m a long time user of Sonax PF and have always been impressed by its finish. Looks like I will have to experiment with the Koch range a little more, I already use the H8 cutting compound but didn’t realise the M2 anti-hologram was a finishing polish.
its a terminology thing.. they tend to call it anti holograming in the manufacturing finshing process. And koch process are used in the industry a lot over in germany. they typically sand out defects and then remove polishing marks with wool on rotaries at high speeds and generate buffer trails.. then finish out the buffer trails with polish on foam pads.
If you like Sonax Perfect Finish you can use Menzerna 400 which is equal to Sonax Perfect Finish. They both start off as a medium polish removing P2000 but finishes off great!
Hello Jon, what blue and white pressure sprayer have you got? Cheers
its from halfords mate not sure if they still sell it but it was about a fiver and its lasted out really well.
Thank you, I'll have a look now. Appreciate that and enjoy your new year.
Is memzerna 3800 better than Koch?
Cherry glaze works well even on top of rainX on the glass
Any heard or used products from Pure Definition?
Another great video very informative as always love the scholl concepts range just never sure which one to use for what & with which pads with my da machine as not sure what is classed as heavy swirls
generally if theres lots of swirls then theres a whole range of depth of scratch and its like peeling layers off an onion.. but say you needed to do like 2-3 compounding sets. thats heavy correction and you want to be maximising (without reason) the amount of cut your tooling and pad setup with reasonably allow.
can i use scholls40 on a silver car if not can u recommend the best polish for silver thank you
the paint color under the clearcoat makes no difference james.. yes mate you can use S40 on silver.