I'm glad I refreshed myself on this technique for the first time in a while. It reminded me of some mistakes I'm still making (namely, trying to hard to see clearly). Even achieved a completely clear moment, with my left eye, 7 lines down on the Snellen chart during this video. I sometimes struggle to see the second row with that eye. Nathan explains this better than anyone I've ever come across.
Wow great job! Experiencing clear flashes is critical to eventually embodying that type of clear seeing more permanently. The fact that it happened as a result of relaxation and movement should be a big clue for you! Keep it up and keep us in the loop with your process.
Holy moly. After watching I went to the comments and held my phone just outside the point of legibility. I pretended to read a comment over and over, sometimes fast, sometimes slow. And i could feel my eyes attempting to focus and its causing my sinuses to pop. But sure enough the text is very slowly coming more and more into focus but just not quite there yet. Thank you for this, my head hasn't felt this relieved in some time.
WOW that's awesome! I hope you've continued to play with this over the past month to keep stretching out your point of focus! Slowly but surely, it'll reach arm's length, and then beyond!
Unfortunately, I haven't really. Things got a little weird later that day. I put my glasses on a couple hours later and got a hard cramp in my left ciliary. And since I've picked up outer eye muscle tension I'm unable to completely get rid of, if I do it just shifts around. And also got posterior vitrius detachment in my other eye mixed with silent migraine symptoms. So it's been a fun time, lol. That feeling at the time though felt amazing. And I've learned that I've had a lot more tension for years than I realized
Before starting this video i want to thank you very much for your effort and hardworking ! I just discovered you last week and you really motivated me to improve my eyesight . It's hard for me to feel this attached to a youtuber this quick and you do it ! I was so happy when i see your new video's notification and i'll start watching by now . And i'm sorry for my bad english :") Your subscriber from Morocco ♡
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Thank you very much. It has been quite an enlightening journey so far, and I look forward to many more years of growth and expansion ahead! Thanks for watching.
GREAT VIDEO! Could you please do a video focused on vision during sighting a firearm. I notice that if I spend a long time while aiming, I can experience what you refer as shifting. I personally got off my glasses back in 2011. Thanks!
Have you ever thought of doing a study of freerunning and vision.How learning freerunning helps to have a better eyesight .When you see no obstacles but opportunities. P.s you have such a soothing voice ,keep up the good work !
Thank you so much for these super helpful instructional videos Nathan! Your calming voice and patient demeanor helps it sink in on a deeper level. I’m optimistic about improving my vision!
Sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly forgot my login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me
@Charles Adrien thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
Aa Aldous Huxley written in his book, others example about how "awareness" tends to fade out without we notice. When we hold a pen for example, our tactile sense will no longer notice the pen after few seconds.. The smelling, after few seconds or so, we can't notice the scent The hearing, you can't stop listen to something but it will not call your attention after some seconds (if you are focused in something else, it does not apply to sleeping time) The vision is the only sense that sends us a signal when we are losing its awareness; it gets blur. So shift is basically put the awareness into the vision sense again and again and again andagain.... We can boost this thing by turning on other awareness senses
Hi Nathan, thanks so much for your videos & podcast! I especially enjoyed the one where you interviewed Esther van der Werf. Listening to it all (repeatedly) has the information sink in so much faster than reading the book, I find. (I bought a book by Saskia Naber, in which Esther tells her personal story as well)
Thank you ! Swinging was ease To understand and I have great result with it but I didn't understand shifting, because he also says that we see best with central fixation when our eyes arent moving so I always try to not move my eyes but just my head and it was hard haha ! Thank you again for the clarification will definitly practice it !
Just to clarify, Dr. Bates said "constant shifting is necessary to maintain central fixation." Sometimes people see that word "fixation" and think it means "staring", but that is incorrect. There is no need to inhibit your eye movements, the Bates Method actually encourages us to allow our eyes to move freely.
@@NathanOxenfeld Yes I get it now, I watch your one video on the subject and it is clear. I wached another RUclipsr before reading the book and he explained central fixation by not moving the eyes but movingthe head. Still got some progress to make but it's getting better !
great video, ive been practicing shifting all video and i can tell already that it helps a ton, couldnt read the stereo station at first but if shift often i can read it well
I am going to practice myself (diagnosticated with lazy left eyes) and my 12 years daugther with miopia. We already are practicing palming, sunning and using variables swing
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 Hi, it´s works. Unfortunately I haven´t been practicing lately, but when I was practicing I was noticing that I was seen the letters and colors much more clear. So, I will get back to do the exercises again, I shouldn´t have stopped. You loose nothing to try.
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 I have lazy eyes(the left one) so, I'm just using glasses for reading and drawing, but yes, when I do the exercises I am able to read without glasses. I suggest you do the exercises daily and patiently. Maybe you can see difference about 1 month of working on them?? Just keep practicing. Hope you can notice the difference soon.
Thank You very much for Your videos which i am so grateful to have found on the net. Using the Bates method is there hope to reverse or heal cataract? did you deal with that issue in any of your videos?
If the Long Swing is approximately a 180 degree swing, the Short Swing might be approximately a 10 degree swing or less. You simply move your body/head less, while still noticing the subtle "oppositional movement" that occurs as a result of your movement. Once you get better at seeing the oppositional movement during the Short Swing, then you can start to look for it while doing the Optical Swing, which is essentially Shifting like I explain in this video. Have fun and stay relaxed!
Thank for your work Nathan. I've always been a bit hesitant to perform the shifting exercise because it's kind of confusing. When I do it, it feels like I'm kind of engaging my peripheral vision to simultaneously look at the position I shifted from, while looking at the new position, if that makes any sense. Would you say this is the wrong way to go about it? I don't really see how to go about doing the exercise any other way, because it seems to me that the purpose is to "notice" the world shifting/moving slightly as you move your focus of vision.
Does the Bates Method help to correct astigmatism? My 5-1/2 year old grandson wears glasses to correct. The optometrist says glasses may help to eliminate the condition; eventually glasses will be needed no longer. Can you comment on the effectiveness of Bates in this case and the use of glasses for correction. (It seems to me that glasses restrict the visual freedom this young and active person has.)
Lenses that have astigmatism correction in them keep the astigmatism in the eye. Have you seen my interview with Esther Joy Van Der Werf about reversing astigmatism naturally? Check it out!
Hey, I bought your book but unfortunately I bought it before you released the new one. The main issue is that’s did the exercises to really work you need to takeoff your glasses at all times but it’s hard for me to see without it in school I can’t take it off while I’m driving I can’t take it off that’s my biggest issue My eysight is approximately -2.5 or so How bad was your eye sight before you started and how is it now?
That's not true, you don't have to take off your glasses at all times... when I was training my own vision I went without my glasses as much as possible, but I still wore them when I needed them to see in the distance, to drive, to work, to socialize, etc. It's not about quitting glasses cold turkey, it's about gradually weaning off them and becoming less dependent on them over time... and also using weaker prescription "training glasses" that are slightly undercorrected to your full prescription. In your case, that might mean -2.25 or -2.00 if you're starting at -2.50. I started around -4.00 when I began and worked my way down to -3.75 glasses, -3.50 glasses, -2.00 glasses, and then no glasses. If you send me an email with a proof of purchase of my book I'll be happy to send you the eBook version of the new edition.
Nathan Oxenfeld Thanks for the clarification and to send you the proof of my purchase do you want me to contact you through Amazon ask the seller question or you can give me your email I looked through the book and I could not find your email in there
Nathan, when I am doing shifting and centralization in reading, I kinda feel my right brain gets weird, and the reading speed is also slower…Is it normal?
Listening to you for a few days I realized i never understood anything of the Bates method. Because i didn't find explanations like your before. I do the exercises that you explained and get a lot of clear flashes. Also a lot of eye tearing, almost like crying and a burning pain. Is that the muscles not used to work in that way? Is it a good sign?
That's good to hear, because the Bates Method is often misunderstood as just "eye exercises" and one of my goals is to share the actual original Bates Method as it was taught by Dr. Bates himself. It's awesome that you're experiencing clear flashes, that's a sign that it's working. And it's normal to feel some strange sensations when you're first re-learning how to see clearly again. Like you said, those eye muscles have been dormant for a while, so when they wake back up and start working again it can feel odd. Stick with it and it'll feel more normal and more relaxed!
Hiii natan i have myopia shourt sigtnesss before 2 months for the first time Aye doctors give me -2.5 glass i wear them Almost one monthI think it really damage my Ayes because it is to strong for me but now I started Bates method before 2 weeks only in the mornings I see clear text far Away from me wheen I try to see Again it will blurred is that my vission is improving ? And I reduced my glass -2 is that fine ? i live in hot more sun light Areas is that bad for my Ayes because i spend more time without my glasses ? thanks natan for your free Advices .
Sounds like you're on the right track, just make sure that the time you spend without glasses, and with your weaker training glasses, that you are staying relaxed. Make sure you watch my video on Dynamic Relaxation to learn more about that. And when treated with respect, the sun can actually be utilized as a helpful tool in the vision improvement process, so watch my video on Sunning too.
Hi Nathan, this video is very interesting, but i have a question about shifting. When I move my eyes from detail to detail, I feel a slight tension in the eye muscles. Where am I doing wrong?
Hey Nathan! Quick question - If I am shifting with nice soft shifts and I get a very slight clear flash should i blink or should I try to hold that blink and make that clear flash clearer by even more shifting and holding my blink? Am I trying to hold that stinging sensation in my eye for better results?
Jag, it's important to learn how to blink through the clear flashes without them disappearing. Do not be afraid to blink when you get a clear flash. And actually, blinking is a powerful way to bring a clear flash. Watch my video on blinking and reverse blinking for more on that - ruclips.net/video/GwwphDB6Ze0/видео.html - and although the stinging sensation is often a normal accompaniment to clear flashes at first, it's not really about holding onto that feeling... we want our eyes to feel soft and comfortable, not stingy.
@@hussla28 sir how were u able to reduce so much? Did u follow only the bates method? And in how much time were u able to reduce 1D.. i am 16 years old and really worried about my eyesight. Please help me sir please.
Yes, technically it's sort of impossible to not be shifting (unless you have a very strong staring habit that slows down the shifting significantly)... but what most people are not aware of is the "oppositional movement" that occurs as a result of our constant eye movements. So by bringing our awareness to seeing things moving all day long, it keeps us present, connected to our surroundings, and allows central fixation to occur and sustain.
Hi Nathan, I hope that your vacation is everything that you dreamed it would be. When I did the shifting with my eyes closed, my eyes were also moving. Is that ok, or should I be trying harder just to visualize the movement? Thanks.
Yes, when I started I was around -4.00 myopia and -2.00 astigmatism. Over a period of 4 years I improved my vision with the Bates Method to the point of no longer needing any artificial correction. I haven't needed glasses since 2015. Nearly 10 years of seeing clearly with my naked eyes, and I am grateful every day!
i live in tropical Thailand and i guess my poor eysight is the sweating that goes in the eyes . Right is blurred whatever glasses exept with a + 200 at 20 cm ONLY left is burning and dry can it be telephone? or cigarette? im 62
I doubt the vision problem is just from sweat getting in your eyes. When you say telephone do you mean looking at a smartphone screen? Because it could be linked to excessive screen time on a phone, tablet, or computer and not giving your eyes enough rest time. Smoking cigarettes is not only bad for general health, but the smoke can irritate the eyes and lead to dryness. You could try doing a cold compress, when you soak a washcloth in icy cold water and lay it over your closed eyes... could relieve the burning and dry sensations.
I have a question. I’ve been reading Bates book, and have been doing a lot of palming and shifting, but I can never see images in my mind with my eyes closed. I can’t look at an image, letter or a period and then close my eyes and hold onto it for more than a second. Am i the only one? How do i fix this?
When your eyes are open and you are attempting to see something clearly, the harder you try, the harder it gets. A very similar thing happens when your eyes are closed and you are attempting to visualize something clearly... It's a little paradoxical, but the less you try to visualize, the more images you start to receive. Have you tried utilizing your other senses to help? Some people are visual, others are auditory, others are kinesthetic. With your eyes closed, say the letter out loud, so you "hear" the letter instead of just "seeing" the letter. If you are visualizing a nature scene, see if you can imagine the sounds of the birds, or the texture of the bark on the trees, or the smell of the flowers, or the taste of an apple you pick off a tree. Sometimes when you're more focused on your other senses, a mental picture will appear more easily.
Please reach out to me privately and we can set something up - integraleyesight.com/contact/ - and you can order shirts through my website - integraleyesight.com/shop/ - Thank you!
Hey, when doing these exercises should I be wearing a weaker prescription or doing them without glasses at all. My prescription is very high at -7.00 in both eyes.
Hi nathan, please make a video or a podcast to remove or control the mental and emotional strain or stress which cause us frustraion anger and even vision problems. Thank you
Dear Nathan, when we are reading, for example, are the eyes alone supposed to be shifting back and forth, or should the eyes be relatively still and our head does the back and forth movement? I guess this is really a question about shifting in general - does the head or eyes do the shifting? Thanks in advance! :)
Both! Instead of your head staying still and just your eyes moving, or your eyes staying still and just your head moving, it's a combination. Ultimately it is your mind that leads the way, with your mental attention and interest making its way across the page/screen from left to right. Then it is about allowing your eyes and head to follow along easily and effortlessly. I like to pivot my head as I read and allow my eyes to stay nice and soft so they can shift rapidly. I let the act of reading take care of the shifting for me!
Yes, when working on improving your own eyes' ability to learn how to focus again without the help of artificial lenses, it is beneficial to spend time without any glasses or contacts on. Some people also like to use weaker prescription training glasses to help wean off their original strength glasses instead of "quitting cold turkey". Keep in mind that it will only work if you are relaxed though. If you strain at all without glasses or with weaker glasses, your vision will not improve.
The Bates Method is ideally done without glasses or contacts, but many of the good vision habits can still be practiced/maintained even when you have glasses on. It's meant to be a 24/7 kind of thing, whether you have glasses on or off, if that makes sense.
Ah I’ve got a question: what’s a clear flash - does it mean seeing things really sharp or can we also count small improvements like sharp layered pictures (like multiple sharp layers placed on top of each other)?
I have had -2 since the age of 14. It never got worse and it never got better. Whatever I do they don't change a bit. But they never got worse either. Those -2 eyes are in concrete. I am 48 years old.
You might want to start experimenting with -1.75 or -1.50 glasses to see if you can encourage your visual system to begin adapting in a more positive direction.
Great videos, thanks so much... the book is fascinating. Question... is there a difference if I used a face mask instead of palming, as I find that I get stiffness in neck shoulders when palming ?
Yes, the blindfold is a nice supplement to palming but not a sufficient replacement because it lacks the human connection... the skin to skin contact of your hands on your face can transmit a powerful healing aspect that a blindfold might not... so I encourage you to do both.
There is no contradiction... you're simply describing near to far shifting, which is partly what this video is about. The main difference is that my approach to teaching near to far shifting is more relaxation-based rather than exercise-based. Do not treat it like an "exercise" to strengthen your muscles or anything... instead think of it as a habit that infuses into your everyday activities. For example, if you have to work on a computer for 3 hours, don't focus on the screen for the entire 3 hours... glance up and away from your screen very frequently for short breaks to let your eyes readjust their focus in the distance, and then come back to the screen. Think about what other daily activities encourage effortless and automatic near-to-far shifting. Driving is a good example, because you are constantly shifting from your dashboard to the road ahead, checking your mirrors, etc. What's important though is to identify the activities that don't include as much near-to-far shifting innately... like computers, phones, and books, which sometimes lead us into staring at the same distance for too long. Even the time it took you to read this entire comment is too long to focus at one distance... if you look at something farther or closer than your screen at the end of each sentence (even if for only one second), you train your subconscious to get into the habit of doing that automatically without having to constantly remind yourself... but it takes time. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Nathan Oxenfeld Yes I did watch it a while ago and I don't recall that she gives exercises for astigmatism. Does she ? If that's the case, I should watch it again. Thanks
You should re-watch it because reversing astigmatism is not about "exercises", it's about recognizing where your functional/muscular imbalances are and finding more alignment in your daily activities. All the general Bates Method practices like swinging, sunning, palming, centralizing, etc. benefit astigmatism, but don't think that you can "exercise" the astigmatism out of your eyes. It is that type of strain that probably caused the astigmatism, so it's actually a matter of prioritizing dynamic relaxation and releasing the strain and tension that exists in and around your eyes.
Yes, shifting happens when you read... but your job is to become more aware of the apparent "oppositional movement" of the letters and words moving to the left as your eyes shift to the right.
Big brother u are right ..that guy jake Steiner didn't tell this whole thing only make fool...bro I have doubt regarding Snellen shifting that will I shift black side of letters or blur side of letters
I'm not sure if I fully understand your question... could you reword it for me? Shifting can be done on the entire Snellen eye chart. I'd recommend doing it at all different distances... very close, within arm's length, at a moderate distance beyond arm's length, and even further too. Just notice that the point you just shifted from (the letter you're no longer looking at) looks less clear, less black, less distinct, than the letter you just shifted to (the letter you are looking at). This is centralization.
Thank you big brother ...I will closely follow your all instructions ....I long it will take to reach 20/20 from -2 diopter...and once again big thank u for your advice
You may experience flashes of 20/20 vision in a very short period of time, but it may take a little longer to learn how to maintain 20/20 permanently. Be patient with it and just keep working on cultivating and allowing temporary improvements in the short term, and it'll only be a matter of time before they start lasting longer and appearing more frequently.
Shifting is simply the physical movement of your eyes. Shifting can either be a pursuit eye movement or a saccadic eye movement - ruclips.net/video/rRDDKKqkdTg/видео.html - but it's tricky because we can have both voluntary and involuntary shifting. Dr. Bates advocated involuntary shifting, but mentioned that we sometimes need to practice voluntary shifting first in order to achieve involuntary shifting.
Hi Nathan, thanks so much for your videos & podcast! I especially enjoyed the one where you interviewed Esther van der Werf. Listening to it all (repeatedly) has the information sink in so much faster than reading the book, I find. (I bought a book by Saskia Naber, in which Esther tells her personal story as well)
This explains things so well! It really modernizes bates message and makes it easy to understand. Thank you!!
That's my mission, so I'm happy to hear it's working!
I'm glad I refreshed myself on this technique for the first time in a while. It reminded me of some mistakes I'm still making (namely, trying to hard to see clearly). Even achieved a completely clear moment, with my left eye, 7 lines down on the Snellen chart during this video. I sometimes struggle to see the second row with that eye. Nathan explains this better than anyone I've ever come across.
Wow great job! Experiencing clear flashes is critical to eventually embodying that type of clear seeing more permanently. The fact that it happened as a result of relaxation and movement should be a big clue for you! Keep it up and keep us in the loop with your process.
I should've seen this video ages ago. Very helpful!
Holy moly. After watching I went to the comments and held my phone just outside the point of legibility. I pretended to read a comment over and over, sometimes fast, sometimes slow. And i could feel my eyes attempting to focus and its causing my sinuses to pop. But sure enough the text is very slowly coming more and more into focus but just not quite there yet.
Thank you for this, my head hasn't felt this relieved in some time.
WOW that's awesome! I hope you've continued to play with this over the past month to keep stretching out your point of focus! Slowly but surely, it'll reach arm's length, and then beyond!
Unfortunately, I haven't really. Things got a little weird later that day. I put my glasses on a couple hours later and got a hard cramp in my left ciliary. And since I've picked up outer eye muscle tension I'm unable to completely get rid of, if I do it just shifts around. And also got posterior vitrius detachment in my other eye mixed with silent migraine symptoms. So it's been a fun time, lol.
That feeling at the time though felt amazing. And I've learned that I've had a lot more tension for years than I realized
Thank you very much Nathan!! Much 💓 to you and your work dedication!! Helping to set the captives free to see.
Clear vision is our birthright!
Did these exercises help you?
Homie, you should do some ASMR videos. Your voice is so calming and tingly.
That makes me tingle ;)
Eyesight asmr
Wonderful. So helpful 👍. Thank you so very much 🙏🙏
Keep on shifting!
Thanks very much Nathan! I am looking forward to your next video! I think the idea to work on children's vision is very important and needed.
Before starting this video i want to thank you very much for your effort and hardworking ! I just discovered you last week and you really motivated me to improve my eyesight . It's hard for me to feel this attached to a youtuber this quick and you do it ! I was so happy when i see your new video's notification and i'll start watching by now . And i'm sorry for my bad english :")
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Did you improve your eyesight
Thanks a lot my vision since when i saw your video two yrs down the lane i made it.
Great job, keep up the good work!
Daniel Kiogora it fully healed?
Are u 20/20 now
Wow! Nathan: You are inspiring in the health care field and as an entrepreneur. well done.
Thank you very much. It has been quite an enlightening journey so far, and I look forward to many more years of growth and expansion ahead! Thanks for watching.
Awesome video. Very helpful. Thank you Nathan!
Thanks for watching JC and happy shifting!
Great explanation! Yes less is more.
Thanks and happy shifting!
GREAT VIDEO! Could you please do a video focused on vision during sighting a firearm. I notice that if I spend a long time while aiming, I can experience what you refer as shifting. I personally got off my glasses back in 2011. Thanks!
Have you ever thought of doing a study of freerunning and vision.How learning freerunning helps to have a better eyesight .When you see no obstacles but opportunities. P.s you have such a soothing voice ,keep up the good work !
I'm not familiar with freerunning, but interested to learn more! Thanks :)
Thank you so much for these super helpful instructional videos Nathan! Your calming voice and patient demeanor helps it sink in on a deeper level. I’m optimistic about improving my vision!
Sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot my login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me
@Harvey Sawyer Instablaster :)
@Charles Adrien thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Charles Adrien It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you saved my ass !
@Harvey Sawyer glad I could help :)
Very cool, the mental shifting is super cool
Right! It's so relaxing. :)
This was very very interesting. I really want to work on this and try to understand more.
Aa Aldous Huxley written in his book, others example about how "awareness" tends to fade out without we notice. When we hold a pen for example, our tactile sense will no longer notice the pen after few seconds.. The smelling, after few seconds or so, we can't notice the scent
The hearing, you can't stop listen to something but it will not call your attention after some seconds (if you are focused in something else, it does not apply to sleeping time) The vision is the only sense that sends us a signal when we are losing its awareness; it gets blur.
So shift is basically put the awareness into the vision sense again and again and again andagain....
We can boost this thing by turning on other awareness senses
Thanks Nathan. You have been very helpful to me again. Big time helpful!!
Hi Nathan, thanks so much for your videos & podcast! I especially enjoyed the one where you interviewed Esther van der Werf. Listening to it all (repeatedly) has the information sink in so much faster than reading the book, I find. (I bought a book by Saskia Naber, in which Esther tells her personal story as well)
Thankyou so much for this
You're very welcome, I hope it helps you increase your awareness of your easy, effortless shifting throughout the day and night!
Did your eyesight improve
Thank you ! Swinging was ease To understand and I have great result with it but I didn't understand shifting, because he also says that we see best with central fixation when our eyes arent moving so I always try to not move my eyes but just my head and it was hard haha ! Thank you again for the clarification will definitly practice it !
Just to clarify, Dr. Bates said "constant shifting is necessary to maintain central fixation." Sometimes people see that word "fixation" and think it means "staring", but that is incorrect. There is no need to inhibit your eye movements, the Bates Method actually encourages us to allow our eyes to move freely.
@@NathanOxenfeld Yes I get it now, I watch your one video on the subject and it is clear.
I wached another RUclipsr before reading the book and he explained central fixation by not moving the eyes but movingthe head.
Still got some progress to make but it's getting better !
Thanks Nathan!
Oops yep you just answered my question. Its about "noticing" the movement.
great video, ive been practicing shifting all video and i can tell already that it helps a ton, couldnt read the stereo station at first but if shift often i can read it well
I am going to practice myself (diagnosticated with lazy left eyes) and my 12 years daugther with miopia. We already are practicing palming, sunning and using variables swing
This is a great thing to practice as a family! Keep it up.
Did it work? Please reply
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 Hi, it´s works. Unfortunately I haven´t been practicing lately, but when I was practicing I was noticing that I was seen the letters and colors much more clear. So, I will get back to do the exercises again, I shouldn´t have stopped. You loose nothing to try.
@@SilvanaMottaVargas did u reduce power of spectacles? Thanks in advance:-)
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 I have lazy eyes(the left one) so, I'm just using glasses for reading and drawing, but yes, when I do the exercises I am able to read without glasses. I suggest you do the exercises daily and patiently. Maybe you can see difference about 1 month of working on them?? Just keep practicing. Hope you can notice the difference soon.
Thank You very much for Your videos which i am so grateful to have found on the net. Using the Bates method is there hope to reverse or heal cataract? did you deal with that issue in any of your videos?
When shifting on another thing so full focus should be on that thing or we should try to active focus on the first thing while looking at the first
Please demonstrate the long swing versus the short swing. Thank you.
If the Long Swing is approximately a 180 degree swing, the Short Swing might be approximately a 10 degree swing or less. You simply move your body/head less, while still noticing the subtle "oppositional movement" that occurs as a result of your movement. Once you get better at seeing the oppositional movement during the Short Swing, then you can start to look for it while doing the Optical Swing, which is essentially Shifting like I explain in this video. Have fun and stay relaxed!
Thank for your work Nathan. I've always been a bit hesitant to perform the shifting exercise because it's kind of confusing. When I do it, it feels like I'm kind of engaging my peripheral vision to simultaneously look at the position I shifted from, while looking at the new position, if that makes any sense. Would you say this is the wrong way to go about it? I don't really see how to go about doing the exercise any other way, because it seems to me that the purpose is to "notice" the world shifting/moving slightly as you move your focus of vision.
very well done
Thanks for watching!
Does the Bates Method help to correct astigmatism? My 5-1/2 year old grandson wears glasses to correct. The optometrist says glasses may help to eliminate the condition; eventually glasses will be needed no longer. Can you comment on the effectiveness of Bates in this case and the use of glasses for correction. (It seems to me that glasses restrict the visual freedom this young and active person has.)
Lenses that have astigmatism correction in them keep the astigmatism in the eye. Have you seen my interview with Esther Joy Van Der Werf about reversing astigmatism naturally? Check it out!
Great video, thank you very much. It helps a lot to understand how things work, I wonder why not more people know about these methods
Hey, I bought your book but unfortunately I bought it before you released the new one.
The main issue is that’s did the exercises to really work you need to takeoff your glasses at all times but it’s hard for me to see without it in school I can’t take it off while I’m driving I can’t take it off that’s my biggest issue
My eysight is approximately -2.5 or so
How bad was your eye sight before you started and how is it now?
That's not true, you don't have to take off your glasses at all times... when I was training my own vision I went without my glasses as much as possible, but I still wore them when I needed them to see in the distance, to drive, to work, to socialize, etc. It's not about quitting glasses cold turkey, it's about gradually weaning off them and becoming less dependent on them over time... and also using weaker prescription "training glasses" that are slightly undercorrected to your full prescription. In your case, that might mean -2.25 or -2.00 if you're starting at -2.50. I started around -4.00 when I began and worked my way down to -3.75 glasses, -3.50 glasses, -2.00 glasses, and then no glasses. If you send me an email with a proof of purchase of my book I'll be happy to send you the eBook version of the new edition.
Nathan Oxenfeld Thanks for the clarification and to send you the proof of my purchase do you want me to contact you through Amazon ask the seller question or you can give me your email I looked through the book and I could not find your email in there
www.integraleyesight.com/contact
Nathan, when I am doing shifting and centralization in reading, I kinda feel my right brain gets weird, and the reading speed is also slower…Is it normal?
Listening to you for a few days I realized i never understood anything of the Bates method. Because i didn't find explanations like your before.
I do the exercises that you explained and get a lot of clear flashes. Also a lot of eye tearing, almost like crying and a burning pain. Is that the muscles not used to work in that way? Is it a good sign?
That's good to hear, because the Bates Method is often misunderstood as just "eye exercises" and one of my goals is to share the actual original Bates Method as it was taught by Dr. Bates himself. It's awesome that you're experiencing clear flashes, that's a sign that it's working. And it's normal to feel some strange sensations when you're first re-learning how to see clearly again. Like you said, those eye muscles have been dormant for a while, so when they wake back up and start working again it can feel odd. Stick with it and it'll feel more normal and more relaxed!
@@NathanOxenfeld thank you Nathan! If you will have some workshop in Europe would be great
Did these exercises help you?
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 definitely YES
@@BallroomHeart how much spectacles power did u reduce??
Hiii natan i have myopia shourt sigtnesss before 2 months for the first time Aye doctors give me -2.5 glass i wear them Almost one monthI think it really damage my Ayes because it is to strong for me but now I started Bates method before 2 weeks only in the mornings I see clear text far Away from me wheen I try to see Again it will blurred is that my vission is improving ? And I reduced my glass -2 is that fine ? i live in hot more sun light Areas is that bad for my Ayes because i spend more time without my glasses ? thanks natan for your free Advices .
Sounds like you're on the right track, just make sure that the time you spend without glasses, and with your weaker training glasses, that you are staying relaxed. Make sure you watch my video on Dynamic Relaxation to learn more about that. And when treated with respect, the sun can actually be utilized as a helpful tool in the vision improvement process, so watch my video on Sunning too.
Hi Nathan, this video is very interesting, but i have a question about shifting. When I move my eyes from detail to detail, I feel a slight tension in the eye muscles. Where am I doing wrong?
Could you how to follow bates method if one eye is way stronger than other? Is this addressed to in your book? I was thinking about buying it
Hey Nathan! Quick question - If I am shifting with nice soft shifts and I get a very slight clear flash should i blink or should I try to hold that blink and make that clear flash clearer by even more shifting and holding my blink? Am I trying to hold that stinging sensation in my eye for better results?
Jag, it's important to learn how to blink through the clear flashes without them disappearing. Do not be afraid to blink when you get a clear flash. And actually, blinking is a powerful way to bring a clear flash. Watch my video on blinking and reverse blinking for more on that - ruclips.net/video/GwwphDB6Ze0/видео.html - and although the stinging sensation is often a normal accompaniment to clear flashes at first, it's not really about holding onto that feeling... we want our eyes to feel soft and comfortable, not stingy.
Did you reduce your spectacle power? Please reply paaji
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 yes, I've been doing it on and off for about a year. Down 1 diopter.
@@hussla28 sir how were u able to reduce so much? Did u follow only the bates method? And in how much time were u able to reduce 1D.. i am 16 years old and really worried about my eyesight. Please help me sir please.
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 watch all of Nathan's videos, read some books on bates method.
Thanks Nathan. I do have a question: don't we normally shift all day long anyway or is the difference to make sure that we "notice" it? Thanks!
Yes, technically it's sort of impossible to not be shifting (unless you have a very strong staring habit that slows down the shifting significantly)... but what most people are not aware of is the "oppositional movement" that occurs as a result of our constant eye movements. So by bringing our awareness to seeing things moving all day long, it keeps us present, connected to our surroundings, and allows central fixation to occur and sustain.
Hi Nathan, I hope that your vacation is everything that you dreamed it would be.
When I did the shifting with my eyes closed, my eyes were also moving. Is that ok, or should I be trying harder just to visualize the movement?
Thanks.
Did these exercises help you?
Paramjeet thakkar sadly I have not had any improvement in my vision with any of the practices
Did you leave the glass completely? What was the starting point?
Yes, when I started I was around -4.00 myopia and -2.00 astigmatism. Over a period of 4 years I improved my vision with the Bates Method to the point of no longer needing any artificial correction. I haven't needed glasses since 2015. Nearly 10 years of seeing clearly with my naked eyes, and I am grateful every day!
@@NathanOxenfeld Nice job. Really motivating.
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I'm thankful for you and all my wonderful subscribers!
i live in tropical Thailand and i guess my poor eysight is the sweating that goes in the eyes . Right is blurred whatever glasses exept with a + 200 at 20 cm ONLY
left is burning and dry
can it be telephone? or cigarette?
im 62
I doubt the vision problem is just from sweat getting in your eyes. When you say telephone do you mean looking at a smartphone screen? Because it could be linked to excessive screen time on a phone, tablet, or computer and not giving your eyes enough rest time. Smoking cigarettes is not only bad for general health, but the smoke can irritate the eyes and lead to dryness. You could try doing a cold compress, when you soak a washcloth in icy cold water and lay it over your closed eyes... could relieve the burning and dry sensations.
Hi Nathan what would you recommend for keratoconus
I have a question. I’ve been reading Bates book, and have been doing a lot of palming and shifting, but I can never see images in my mind with my eyes closed. I can’t look at an image, letter or a period and then close my eyes and hold onto it for more than a second. Am i the only one? How do i fix this?
When your eyes are open and you are attempting to see something clearly, the harder you try, the harder it gets. A very similar thing happens when your eyes are closed and you are attempting to visualize something clearly... It's a little paradoxical, but the less you try to visualize, the more images you start to receive. Have you tried utilizing your other senses to help? Some people are visual, others are auditory, others are kinesthetic. With your eyes closed, say the letter out loud, so you "hear" the letter instead of just "seeing" the letter. If you are visualizing a nature scene, see if you can imagine the sounds of the birds, or the texture of the bark on the trees, or the smell of the flowers, or the taste of an apple you pick off a tree. Sometimes when you're more focused on your other senses, a mental picture will appear more easily.
Thank you! And thank you very much for your teaching videos.
Nathan, I'd love to interview u on a zoom! and where can i order one of those "YOU CAN LEARN TO SEE CLEARLY" shirts ?
Please reach out to me privately and we can set something up - integraleyesight.com/contact/ - and you can order shirts through my website - integraleyesight.com/shop/ - Thank you!
Hey, when doing these exercises should I be wearing a weaker prescription or doing them without glasses at all. My prescription is very high at -7.00 in both eyes.
Either. Doing practices without glasses is better.
Hi nathan, please make a video or a podcast to remove or control the mental and emotional strain or stress which cause us frustraion anger and even vision problems. Thank you
Did these exercises help you?
Dear Nathan, when we are reading, for example, are the eyes alone supposed to be shifting back and forth, or should the eyes be relatively still and our head does the back and forth movement? I guess this is really a question about shifting in general - does the head or eyes do the shifting? Thanks in advance! :)
Both! Instead of your head staying still and just your eyes moving, or your eyes staying still and just your head moving, it's a combination. Ultimately it is your mind that leads the way, with your mental attention and interest making its way across the page/screen from left to right. Then it is about allowing your eyes and head to follow along easily and effortlessly. I like to pivot my head as I read and allow my eyes to stay nice and soft so they can shift rapidly. I let the act of reading take care of the shifting for me!
Hello Nathan...I have a question...
Will not wearing our spects for most of the time... will it help in improve our eyesight...??
Yes, when working on improving your own eyes' ability to learn how to focus again without the help of artificial lenses, it is beneficial to spend time without any glasses or contacts on. Some people also like to use weaker prescription training glasses to help wean off their original strength glasses instead of "quitting cold turkey".
Keep in mind that it will only work if you are relaxed though. If you strain at all without glasses or with weaker glasses, your vision will not improve.
Do you do the excersises with or with out glasses??
The Bates Method is ideally done without glasses or contacts, but many of the good vision habits can still be practiced/maintained even when you have glasses on. It's meant to be a 24/7 kind of thing, whether you have glasses on or off, if that makes sense.
Sir I am live in India,and here paysystems is not in dollars how can I the pay of 6 week programme ?
Do I have to move my eyes when I practice the mental shifting ? Is kind of difficult to do it without moving the eyes 😳
In my opinion you can't mental shift without moving your eyes, but I might be wrong.
From where can I get this book ......give up ... good pls tell mw
Ah I’ve got a question: what’s a clear flash - does it mean seeing things really sharp or can we also count small improvements like sharp layered pictures (like multiple sharp layers placed on top of each other)?
It means seeing things perfectly for a few seconds.
Did these exercises help you?
I have had -2 since the age of 14. It never got worse and it never got better. Whatever I do
they don't change a bit. But they never got worse either. Those -2 eyes are in concrete. I am 48 years old.
You might want to start experimenting with -1.75 or -1.50 glasses to see if you can encourage your visual system to begin adapting in a more positive direction.
@@NathanOxenfeld Thank you for your answer. I will try that.
any advice for keratoconus?
Great videos, thanks so much... the book is fascinating. Question... is there a difference if I used a face mask instead of palming, as I find that I get stiffness in neck shoulders when palming ?
Yes, the blindfold is a nice supplement to palming but not a sufficient replacement because it lacks the human connection... the skin to skin contact of your hands on your face can transmit a powerful healing aspect that a blindfold might not... so I encourage you to do both.
One of the eye exercise s : Focus far,then focus near...and your method is contradiction....so which one is right??
There is no contradiction... you're simply describing near to far shifting, which is partly what this video is about. The main difference is that my approach to teaching near to far shifting is more relaxation-based rather than exercise-based. Do not treat it like an "exercise" to strengthen your muscles or anything... instead think of it as a habit that infuses into your everyday activities. For example, if you have to work on a computer for 3 hours, don't focus on the screen for the entire 3 hours... glance up and away from your screen very frequently for short breaks to let your eyes readjust their focus in the distance, and then come back to the screen. Think about what other daily activities encourage effortless and automatic near-to-far shifting. Driving is a good example, because you are constantly shifting from your dashboard to the road ahead, checking your mirrors, etc. What's important though is to identify the activities that don't include as much near-to-far shifting innately... like computers, phones, and books, which sometimes lead us into staring at the same distance for too long. Even the time it took you to read this entire comment is too long to focus at one distance... if you look at something farther or closer than your screen at the end of each sentence (even if for only one second), you train your subconscious to get into the habit of doing that automatically without having to constantly remind yourself... but it takes time. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Did these exercises help you?
Hello
Can we totally recover from astigmatism ?
Thanks
Yes, have you seen my video about reversing astigmatism naturally with Esther Joy Van Der Werf? ruclips.net/video/Ahc9IaGdpXs/видео.html
Nathan Oxenfeld Yes I did watch it a while ago and I don't recall that she gives exercises for astigmatism. Does she ? If that's the case, I should watch it again.
Thanks
You should re-watch it because reversing astigmatism is not about "exercises", it's about recognizing where your functional/muscular imbalances are and finding more alignment in your daily activities. All the general Bates Method practices like swinging, sunning, palming, centralizing, etc. benefit astigmatism, but don't think that you can "exercise" the astigmatism out of your eyes. It is that type of strain that probably caused the astigmatism, so it's actually a matter of prioritizing dynamic relaxation and releasing the strain and tension that exists in and around your eyes.
Nathan Oxenfeld thanks a lot ☺
@@NathanOxenfeld one question I have that can our eye can come back to it natural shape after relaxation. Because it Is main cause for astigmatism
if i read a passage ,which is in a column , from a distance , is it shifting as i go on to read?
Yes, shifting happens when you read... but your job is to become more aware of the apparent "oppositional movement" of the letters and words moving to the left as your eyes shift to the right.
Big brother u are right ..that guy jake Steiner didn't tell this whole thing only make fool...bro I have doubt regarding Snellen shifting that will I shift black side of letters or blur side of letters
I'm not sure if I fully understand your question... could you reword it for me? Shifting can be done on the entire Snellen eye chart. I'd recommend doing it at all different distances... very close, within arm's length, at a moderate distance beyond arm's length, and even further too. Just notice that the point you just shifted from (the letter you're no longer looking at) looks less clear, less black, less distinct, than the letter you just shifted to (the letter you are looking at). This is centralization.
Thank you big brother ...I will closely follow your all instructions ....I long it will take to reach 20/20 from -2 diopter...and once again big thank u for your advice
You may experience flashes of 20/20 vision in a very short period of time, but it may take a little longer to learn how to maintain 20/20 permanently. Be patient with it and just keep working on cultivating and allowing temporary improvements in the short term, and it'll only be a matter of time before they start lasting longer and appearing more frequently.
Thank you big brother ...plz come to india there is huge market for you and for your instructions
Should I do it with one eye or both?
It's not really possible to just shift one eye at a time... the eyes are meant to work as a team, so allow both your eyes to shift together.
@@NathanOxenfeld thank you
Can you show what shifting look like?
Shifting is simply the physical movement of your eyes. Shifting can either be a pursuit eye movement or a saccadic eye movement - ruclips.net/video/rRDDKKqkdTg/видео.html - but it's tricky because we can have both voluntary and involuntary shifting. Dr. Bates advocated involuntary shifting, but mentioned that we sometimes need to practice voluntary shifting first in order to achieve involuntary shifting.
Will my improvments get lost after quitting exercises?
Did your eyesight improve
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 yes, check also endmyopia.org
@@t3n_pm could u pls tell how much Dioptres did u reduce? Thanks in advance :-)
Excellent!
Now put up a Snellen and read it in a video.
Do you have email?
I did it when I made friends with the unconscious
Good tip! :)
The video is dark. The shirt is dark.
Hi Nathan, thanks so much for your videos & podcast! I especially enjoyed the one where you interviewed Esther van der Werf. Listening to it all (repeatedly) has the information sink in so much faster than reading the book, I find. (I bought a book by Saskia Naber, in which Esther tells her personal story as well)