I'm loading reduced loads for a 12 year old shooting 30-30. Even at 1,200 fps it will down a deer in the thick woods. My old man was always about MAX loads that were scorchers and I never saw the need to push a bullet that fast. The more comfortable the shooting the better the shot will break.
Ice video.. just wish I could find some H4895. Nothing like turning your 06 onto a 308. Much more pleasant to shoot and still more than adequate for deer , or paper.
I loaded 150 gr round nose bullets using H4895 down to 70% of max load for my 308 so my son could shoot it. they worked great and recoil was quite low. I also loaded 80% and 85% but the 70% were definately the nicest to shoot and accuracy was pretty good too.
Just loaded some 4895 low recoil loads for the 308 for my son. Cant wait to try them out. Running them in an AR 10. Hope they cycle. It will be interesting!!
I have an old Remington 721 in 30-06 with a steel checkered butt plate. I've been using 38-40 grains of H4895 with a 150 grain projectile in H4895. It's just a target rifle to me as I don't have a need to hunt. Kinda have a hard time beating the shit out of myself for just target shooting. The reduced recoil loads feel like .308 WIN. Can shoot them all day long.
Just turned away from a Q Fix in 308 because of the recoil + lightweight design. My operational concern was obvious. These types of guns are just trying to do too much and compromise the intended application. I don’t even think the gun I mentioned here was manageable with the muzzle breaks or suppressors. That took me to reevaluating the caliber needs that I have, the available loads (which can make a big difference depending upon the caliper and versatility), and even reduced loads. Sounds like you were able to manage your recoil with the reduced loads considerably. What I don’t understand is at what range and animal the caliber and load will still be terminal. Know of any good table / matrix / source that lays all that out?
I don't know of any comprehensive charts. But some projectile manufacturers will show bullet expansion at various velocities and combine that with the energy (ft/lb) the projectile has at the speed you're shooting at and that should give you a relative idea of its stopping power.
I'm loading reduced loads for a 12 year old shooting 30-30. Even at 1,200 fps it will down a deer in the thick woods. My old man was always about MAX loads that were scorchers and I never saw the need to push a bullet that fast. The more comfortable the shooting the better the shot will break.
Ice video.. just wish I could find some H4895. Nothing like turning your 06 onto a 308. Much more pleasant to shoot and still more than adequate for deer , or paper.
Google “The Load” and “Red Dot Powder”. I used to shoot Trail Boss but have since converted. Nice video. Thx for the work
I loaded 150 gr round nose bullets using H4895 down to 70% of max load for my 308 so my son could shoot it. they worked great and recoil was quite low. I also loaded 80% and 85% but the 70% were definately the nicest to shoot and accuracy was pretty good too.
Just loaded some 4895 low recoil loads for the 308 for my son. Cant wait to try them out. Running them in an AR 10. Hope they cycle. It will be interesting!!
I have an old Remington 721 in 30-06 with a steel checkered butt plate. I've been using 38-40 grains of H4895 with a 150 grain projectile in H4895. It's just a target rifle to me as I don't have a need to hunt. Kinda have a hard time beating the shit out of myself for just target shooting. The reduced recoil loads feel like .308 WIN. Can shoot them all day long.
Awesome rifle you got 👍
Good information . I've been trying H4895 for cast loads with reduced charges .
Are the cast loads hardened cause I've still been getting velocities in the 2k range with the reduced H4895 loads.
16 BHN and higher are needed for over 2,000 fps @@AlmostPrecisionKinetics
Just turned away from a Q Fix in 308 because of the recoil + lightweight design. My operational concern was obvious. These types of guns are just trying to do too much and compromise the intended application. I don’t even think the gun I mentioned here was manageable with the muzzle breaks or suppressors.
That took me to reevaluating the caliber needs that I have, the available loads (which can make a big difference depending upon the caliper and versatility), and even reduced loads.
Sounds like you were able to manage your recoil with the reduced loads considerably.
What I don’t understand is at what range and animal the caliber and load will still be terminal.
Know of any good table / matrix / source that lays all that out?
I don't know of any comprehensive charts. But some projectile manufacturers will show bullet expansion at various velocities and combine that with the energy (ft/lb) the projectile has at the speed you're shooting at and that should give you a relative idea of its stopping power.