Jeebus. Silver X70 for $1K on KEH right now. Love the idea of a small camera but no way I’d ever pay a grand for an 8 year old, 16MP, fixed lens camera. That’s just insane.
People have been barking at Fuji for years to make a new X70 but it has fallen on deaf ears. I have the X70 and love it. It has it's short comings for an 8 year old camera as you mentioned but I make due. If Ricoh can but a new APSC sensor in thier small compact camera I don't see why fuji can't update the X-70. I also have just picked up an RX1R and this little camera has blown my socks off. Yet another camera that is desperately waiting for an update!
Until recently most fujis were made in Japan with lots of hand assembly, so they didn't have much capacity. They've struggled to make enough x100vs and 100vis, and even XT5s to keep up with demand, and they've been overly conservative with their investments to boost capacity. They always say they are surprised by the level of demand, but at a certain point, that's incompetence. I would love them to make a newer version of the x70, and the Ricoh GRIII continues to show there is some decent demand for a small fixed lens APS-C camera. The mobile phone camera decimated the entire entry and mid-level point and shoot camera market. But there is a demand for high-end ones for enthusiasts. The other thing folks need to understand is that cameras are now a very small part of Fuji's corporate business. Majority of the business is now in health care (medical electronics and imaging, biotech and pharma), office equipment, and chemicals.
@@odemata87 this is a fact, people really do have this perception, but I've never really understood that. The kind of images smartphones create can be genuinely impressive but they just don't have the look of images from cameras with larger sensors. Perhaps the biggest benefit of using a *camera* rather than a cameraphone is the dedicated camera body, grip, controls and the speed of operation.
@@AndrewSowerby To be fair, people might look at a small camera and think it isn't as good as a dslr or mirrorless. Plus, there is the thought process of "why buy a new camera when my phone takes perfectly good ones."
Like you said, even the X100V is a bit too big. An updated version of this would be a dream! Small, APSC, USBC, articulating touch screen, Fuji recipes. Sign me up! Ricoh GR comes close, but those Fuji recipes are top notch since I'd only wanna shoot JPEG with something like this
I switched to micro four thirds after discovering that I was doing as well in camera club competitions when using my Canon G1X Mk 2 as I did when using my full frame DSLR. I came to the realisation that sensors a bit smaller than APSC were not a disadvantage.
Several manufacturers are guilty of no longer making popular small camera bodies including change able lens models ... Pan GX9. Oly Pen F. eos M...X70.....but life goes on...I have resigned myself to just using the Sony A7c bodies to fill most of my needs.... I loved the Fuji X70...plus the wide angle conversion lens kit...Cheers
To be fair to Sony, they didn't "abruptly" discontinued the 16MP sensor that Fuji used in the X70... however Fuji was really behind schedule for the X70, and they released the camera in 2016... even though by this time Fujifilm released the 24MP X-Trans III in the X-T2 and X-Pro2. Everybody expected the X70 to have this sensor but no, Fuji fit the previous generation sensor in there, which was itself based on the yet again previous gen X-Trans 1, a sensor that Fujifilm has been using since 2012, and that Sony has been producting since 2010 (or thereabouts). If Fujifilm waited a couple of months, to take the time to properly fit the X-Trans III in there, there would have been no issues. An interesting thing is that Fujifilm fully expected to sell a TON of X70s, and as a result made a sh*t ton of that small 18.5mm lens... Sony cutton the production meant that they couldn't produce X70s anymore, and that they would stay unused in a warehouse somewhere... so in 2019, Fujifilm cobbled up another camera using that lens, with parts from other cameras with the goal of making it as cheap as possible : they took the guts of an X-A5 (same sensor / processor combo as the X-T100), used a smaller body, strapped the lens to it and released that as the XF10. Decent small 24MP camera overall, but it wasn't really a great performer (neither was the X70 when it comes to AF etc tbh) and the camera didn't sell well. Fujifilm went through their 18.5mm lens inventory, and then quickly discontinued the camera. An X70S or something similar would be great though. But I don't know if Fujifilm would be willing to do the whole thing again, especially today when they already struggle to produce enough X100VI cameras to satisfy demand
In the early 1970s I moved up from a Kodak Instamatic film camera to my first 35mm model. My 2 year old son was growing up, and I wanted sharp photo memories. I invested in the uber classic Konica C-35 with a focusing/composing viewfinder, a 38mm full frame f/2.8 lens. Konica sold millions of them around the world, and I continued to use that camera even after acquiring my first SLR. I still have the C-35. Arthur, like your new studio.
I bought and sold this camera 3 different times. Loved the images that came out. But two things that made me sale it was the lack of view finder, reason i dont shoot with my phone and auto focus. Was always hoping for the X80.
Yes! A Sony 26 mp camera with an EVF, flip up screen, 23mm f2 lens with aperture ring and distance scale, buttons and dials, weather sealing, IBIS, latest AF and Sony would have a winner on its hands.
@@martinphilipps8678 You are correct in terms the specs: they are very different, including the sensor (x70 being APSC) and lens (x70 fixed). The X70 is actually even smaller than the x10. It is more like a Ricoh GR line.
I have the GR IIIx, which I generally like, but the autofocus is just so clunky if you are used to newer mirrorless cameras. Especially when using it for day to day photography of family with small kids. I would buy a GR IV with better autofocus immediately.
Really well-done video. I bit the bullet a few years ago and compromised going to M4/3. Most everyone has different standards so I imagine the X70 works for some but not for others. The price is a bit much for my tastes considering the competition. Did you struggle finding a good used copy? Is the screen viewable in bright sun light? The resale value will likely hold so that’s a plus. Your gear selection choices are interesting on this channel! I appreciate you.
Dude 11:00 was so funny, that's exactly my thought process. I wonder how they would price such a camera but there definitely is a need for it. The RX1 looks great but it needs an update. And for the apsc users they really should make a decent 23-27mm pancake. It would make sense since that's the more compact line...
@@kermitage I debated on answer this because obviously your clueless, but what does composing have to do with detail? 40 MP is fuji's standard sensor now, better you email Fuji and ask them why. Ask them why they don't just compose BEFORE the shot. .......🤣
I totally agree with what youve said. For me the lack of a viewfinder is a deal breaker and the focus issues are due to the camera being contrast detect only where as the XE2s has phase detection autofocus. Also Fujifilm wont want a new X70 to compete with its X100 line of cameras, but the X100 is not a pocketable camera in comparison. Ill stick with my A6300s. You could look at the Fujifilm X-M1 camera coupled with either an 18mm pancake or the 27mm pancake lens.
There is most assuredly a market for a small photocentric camera. Fuji used to make a small zoom lens camera line, x10,x20,x30 with a small 2/3 inch sensor. I would love to see an update to that series with an aps-c size sensor. I would definitely be one of the first in line if they made that happen!
They would be a lot bigger with an APSC sensor. A bigger sensor needs a bigger lens. I liked the x10, but the small sensor is a big compromise. I'm using micro four thirds these days.
I understand not wanting to go as small as a 1" sensor because of low light performance, but the Sony RX100 VA might be worth at least checking out. 24-70mm zoom, and the fast F1.8-2.8 aperture might at least somewhat make up for the smaller sensor in lower light (it also has a flash). 315 phase-detect autofocus points and 24fps burst, so you're unlikely to miss a moment due to the camera's limitations. Plus, it has that all-important electronic viewfinder. It might not be as ideal as a larger sensor camera as far as performance, but it's ideal in size and definitely fits the "the best camera is the one you have on you" edict while you leave the bigger camera at home, and should at the least take better pictures than your cell phone.
I have a silver one in nearly mint condition to sell. With wideangle converter and Fuji leather half cover... I even have ND-filters for it! Located in Germany. You can also make fine art photos with it not just family photos. I made long exposures with it on a tiny tripod. I think this type of camera is the best concept for smartphone shooters who don't want much of a camera but want to learn making 'real' photos themselves. Who want to figure out what it is all about with exposure and aperture and stuff. Not having an evf they're used to, they won't miss it. In my case it was like so. It taught me photography, it was my first real camera (therefore I was sucked into the Fuji system). When you then come more into it, you can switch to a camera with interchangeable lenses and go wild buying stuff and carry around big heavy bags.
The Canon G1X and the Lumix LX100 instantly came to mind, even though they're APS-C and MFT respectably. A fixed lens A6000 series camera would be amazing. Maybe basing it on the A6600 since that had IBIS, but keeping the older sensor to incentivize moving up to the A6700. Maybe a 16-50mm zoom lens at up F1.8-2.8 variable aperture so it could feel like a larger version of the ZV-1 II but priced accordingly around $1200. Less than an A6700 with a good kit but you still have reason to upgrade should you so choose
My first "real" camera was a Canon superzoom. Loved that thing even though the images were not the greatest at the time. I love the A6400/6700 as an ideal combination of power and portability.
Lmao @ the "take the 20/2.8 ... and throw it away." I love a good pancake 28mm for friends and family shots; you're always at the right distance to get head&shoulders but don't distort faces like a 20mm can. With a big sensor in a tiny body behind it you can get just enough background separation to feel a little more special than a smartphone - and I can see why you prefer the EVF, because much like holding a dedicated camera rather than a phone that can nudge you to be in an active, "how can I capture this moment meaningfully" frame of mind rather than "oh let me get a picture real quick". The NEX 7 (which is surprisingly small if you're used to the 6X00 series) and the 20/2.8 might be the right combo for you - if they weren't badly outdated at this point.
I have one. Best thing I've ever bought. EVF: I like them, but don't miss them with this tiny camera. Slow autofocus: very true, but not a problem most of the time. Battery life: limited, but never held me back. A *truly* pocketable APSC camera is the best camera you can get. A slightly faster lens would make it perfect. Especially if, like Ricoh, it offered 28 and 40mm equiv options. I dream of that...
I got lucky and bought an X70 many years ago before the prices went way up. It is a neat little camera. I also have a Fuji X100T, also bought before the latest Fuji craze. Just recently I found an X T4 with a 35mm f2 lens, in like new condition, with a box and accessories, in a pawn shop, for $595. I think pawn shops are going to be your best bet for finding one of these "rare" Fuji cameras, half the time they don't know what they have.
I agree with your suggestions near the end. I have one of these cameras and I love it, but also find it frustrating. The lack of a viewfinder is the big one. I had to set up the camera to just take jpgs so I could set it to sharpen the images. OTW the lack of sharpness with the 18mm lens was unacceptable in my copy. I totally agree the batteries are too weak and go flat quickly. I also noticed my Fuji brand batteries would not charge with the Fuji charger. I have to use an off-brand charger to charge the Fuji batteries. That makes no sense to me. I like to set it up for 1:1 and b&w for street shooting since it previews precisely on the LCD that way. I love the direct access to apertures and ss. It's in mint condition and I can't bring myself to part with it despite the high prices.
For me the small Fuji bodies I liked were the XE-1,2, and 3 because I always wanted interchangeable lenses but unfortunately sold my XE-3 and regretted it. Now I replaced them with the Sony compact C cameras like the A7C2 and A7CR. I also own full size full frame bodies but like these smaller bodies a lot. Have always mistakenly overlooked fixed lens cameras like the Sony RX1R, but would now buy one if the brought it back. Thanks for the video and take care.
Seeing this vid of yours a bit late. Yeah, would LOVE to get an updated version of this camera. All the existing controls look to be the perfect balance. Also like the 'auto' switch.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s my favorite camera even though I have the X100VI. It’s smaller and thus more portable so I have it in my sling or pack wherever I go.
Completely agree that the market is screaming out for something like this. It is borderline criminal that Fuji hasn't released an x80 and a mystery as to why other manufacturers have also failed to release something similar. The only thing that I can think of is that it would be too successful. Users would have an extremely powerful tool in their pocket with no need to upgrade or buy lenses for.
More accurately it takes a hell of a lot to design a camera, especially a small camera. Say a camera like the a6700, it was assuredly in development for over 5 years. You're not gonna get this instantly, and their future plans are likely still effected by 2020. Wait a few years, stop talking out your tucus, and you'll get it. Companies aren't dumb.
@@LindonSlaght This is the silliest thing I've read in ages, thank you. Camera brands are perfectly capable of updating models quicker than every 10 years.
@@thomashill5768 that's not the point I'm making. I'm specifically talking about reacting to changing market conditions. That's not very quick for most companies.
Bought the X70 mint condition for $200 in 2019. I blame Mattias Burling for it. I love the colors coming out of this little thing. Yes, Continuous AF is bad. Just set it to Single AF and Single Point or Zone; it's fine, not great. A viewfinder would be nice to have but I can live without one. Probably the worst part for me would be the battery life. I'm thinking about getting an X-E3 + 27mm pancake to replace it. I'm glad you're trying out Fujifilm cameras. You don't have to like it; being open to try is enough. I followed you when I got my a6000. Loved that camera but hated its colors. Tried out the a6300, a7sii and a7iii, still wasn't happy. Got the X-T30 and fell in love with Fuji colors ever since. From there I got the X70, X-T1 and X-S10. AF can be frustrating (Sony is still the best in that area), but I love the JPEG and RAW from Fuji. You've always had a pretty fair assessment of cameras and lenses which is why I stuck around. Keep it up Arthur, you're doing great!
An alternative still available today is the Ricoh GR III, which comes in two versions with 28mm and 40mm lenses. It’s equally compact, with the same-sized APS-C sensor and excellent IQ. However, it has fewer physical controls, no tilt screen, and the autofocus is from 2010.
Nikon Coolpix A is an alternative to X70, kind of. It has 16-megapixel CMOS sensor, F2.8 18.5mm lens, even built-in flash etc. No viewfinder, maximum shutter is only 1/2000, no tilt or touch screen and of course, no Fuji-style film emulations - there are some disadvantages in comparison. But it has good autofocus, nice image quality and better battery life than X70. And it is much much more cheaper than the latter: when it was released in back 2013, its initial price was even higher than X70, namely 1100 US dollars. Today its price is about two hundread dollars or less - some four times cheaper than X70.
The Nikon Coolpix A was my first thought as well though you may be surprised at the prices . I certainly could not find any at $200 MPB US has one silver model in just good condition at $569
Well said regarding what Sony should do! Take the 20mm and throw it away 🤣🤣🤣 Also nice sponsoring partner, rightly timed for me - I'll be ordering one (from Germany, so unfortunately not using your link).
The X70 was the best small camera I have owned. It became unavailable almost as soon as it was released. I would still use mine except that I broke it.
The filter on the camera appears to be one designed for film cameras. I suspect you will find the lens is sharper without that filter OR even better add a good filter designed for digital cameras.
Until I (recently) got into an APSC Fuji, I took a lot of decent photos with a wee little Canon GS9 Mk2. As long as you don't need 'pro' results you can do well with something literally the size of a deck of cards. The camera in your pocket is better than anything sitting back at home.
You should take another look at micro 4/3. The stabilization is so good you can easily complete with larger sensors. Sometimes the computational abilities they have can even give better results than my full frame Sonys. Only in select situations but still impressive.
Agree great camera even more versatile with the wide angle lens and slide on optical viewfinder you didn't mention the zoom function that allows 35 and 50 mm framing when 28 is too wide + the wide angle lens can be used on the x100 to make the 35 in to a 26 mm lens works great
Shortcomings aside, as an a7iii user, I love being able to throw the x70 in my pocket. I only wish it was an f2.0 or better.... are we ever satisfied? lol
Sony in general seem to have a strong focus on compact full frame. The A7C line for hybrid, A7CR line for photo, the ZV-E1 you mentioned for video. Paired with one of their compact f/2.5 primes you get incredible size to performance. I also love my Viltrox 20mm f/2.8 prime, it's lighter than even the Sony 11mm on APS-C. You also have the ridiculously small 28-60mm zoom that's smaller than most APS-C zooms. I appreciate the X70 size is amazing, it is, but is it worth the drawbacks? - that 18mm lens is also available as a pancake for X-Mount and it's really not a very pleasant experience to use with a very slow, loud focus motor that hunts and a bit of a dull focal length of 28mm - even phones moved away from this focal length. Fuji's latest attempt at a thinner camera with the X100VI also comes with many drawbacks, f/3 full frame equivalent, noisy slow focus motors, soft images wide open, below average performance in distortion/vignette/chromatic aberration, the tele/wide convertors compound the problems, etc. Anything smaller you also lose IBIS.
I am using a Fuji x-t10 because i absolutely love how people look with that x-trans ii sensor. Classic-Chrome with Color +2 and you get basically perfect skintones all the time. Also the Autofokus on the x-t10 (or x-t1) is a lot better than the x70. I tried the newer x-t3 but the colors out of the x-trans ii are something else. My friends are absolutely in love with the images when i download them on my phone. With the 27mm f2.8 from fujifilm or ttartisan it is small enough for a fanny pack. So i can basically take it with me wherever i want. Festivals, Night Clubs, Hikes. Got the x-t10 for 240 and the xf27 for 260. Maybe a suggestion for someone who is looking for a cheap compact set-up. At least here in Germany the x-tx0 series is way cheaper than the x-ex series, while being similar in footprint.
The X70 has been a camera I really want to try out but haven't yet. I did own the XF10 for some time and its creates beautiful images, sharper than even the X100V sometimes, but the whole shooting experience is so bad that I ended up giving it up 😥 Currently the best in this category is still the GRIII imo (I currently own the IIIx).
Sony A6700 has nearly identical physical dimensions and weight of the RX1Rii with the added benefit of interchangeable lenses and other vastly superior features. I purchased mine with the 18-135mm 3.5/5.7 lens. It's a go everywhere light weight camera that's great for photos and video. When i want pocketable I take my RX100.
Fuji XF10 was a little brother, same optical and generic operation with a 24M pixels. The picture quality is even better, but the dials on the high-end system is missing. It was discontinued soon after released in 2018. I personally wish if Fuji would release the x90, which comes with a 27 mm pancake on an X70 body.
I bought one new back when they launched and eventually sold it. I've regretted letting that camera go ever since and prices have just gotten silly on them over the past few years, every time I look to pick up another one it almost gives me a heart attack!
What you are describing is something that many photographers have desired yet the new Gen Y&Z want videos. Face it, we are a dying breed and if we want something that is small and takes good pics, we will pull out our old Nikon Coolpix 9700 or similar and say oh well.
by and large I agree, but I would still make it ILC with a pancake lens offered as kit and I wouldn't take out video, even with very short recording time restrictions, let's say a zv-10 II with a tilt screen (instead of these ubiquitous very annoying vari-angle displays), a mech shutter, a flash (possibly with some innovations) and some sort of evf...
I'm with you! I know everybody hates the Sony W battery, but I prefer it over the Z battery for small cameras. Sure the a6700 has a Z battery, but it's also the same size and weight as the full frame a7c, so what's the point. It's amazing how much smaller the a6000 was vs the a6700. Even though Sony is known for small, they've nonetheless creeped to larger bodies, especially in APS-C. The zv cameras are cool in many ways, but like you, I just find a camera with no viewfinder no fun to use.
Recently I got the original EOS M + 22mm F2 for experimenting with magic lantern an I discovered how enjoyable and compact (almost compact camera) is for pictures. Also I'm enjoying image quality overall. So, yeah. We need more quality compact versions of the big ones
This post makes me miss my Canon G11. Choice of types of digital cameras is becoming very limited, with some of the 'fringe' designs being offered by a single manufacturer like Fuji and most being dropped altogether. It's mirrorless or dslr or nothing these days. I just wish they'd put decent size viewfinders in them, whether electronic or (preferably) optical. I'd have to buy a Pentax KF - and pay for a lot of features I'll never use.
I’ve wanted one for years but could never justify the $1200 it was (around me) for a used camera. The x70 is a solid design and would be perfect for day to day use if I can ever find one for a decent price
I still prefer the option of swapping lenses or body's out which is why I'm sticking with mirrorless. The Sony 6000 series has been my dream system. You could just get one of the new Samyang remastered ultra-slim lenses (say the 32mm f2.8) put it on any mirrorless apsc body and it would be just as pocketable.
Hey Arthur. I know you don’t like the 20mm pancake, but honestly I find it too good for the size. Especially for street. IQ is better than the kit len and optically is not that bad compare with others pancakes lenses from others brands. Try the Nex 5T with this len and you’ll get an excellent compact combination for street. AF is better than this X70 and it’s only thicker by few mm. Remember for street you don’t need the sharpest len
This is true. My copy when i had it was worse in the corners than the kit lens, which just didnt make sense. It could have been a QC issue though, at the time Sony had problems with a handful of lenses. I may re-visit it and try to build the sony version of the X100V...
@@ArthurR btw when it comes to size and features I think the A6500 body is the closest one to X100VI plus is has IBIS. I don’t count A6700 and 6400 because they are thinker
I do think the 6xxx lineup from Sony its a good size. Personally i do have 6700 and really like to how I can hold in my hand. Even the A7 series( I do not have any ). I just feel them like, you got something into your hands for that money.
As I’m watching the video, I was uttering the same comments. I own the A7C, great little camera (and Full Frame to boot). Curious to know what it wasn’t even mentioned.
Sigma makes the Sigma FP and the FPL. Both full frame cameras that are as big as a pack of cigarettes. I believe the FP has the same sensor as the A73, and the FPL has the A7R5 sensor, and you can add an electronic view finder to either one.
@@ArthurR it mounts to the side, not the top, and yes it does make it wider. I’m in Austin. If you want to check it out, let me know. I have the FP, the electronic view finder, a few lenses, and a low profile 1 tb SSD that mounts on the bottom of the camera.
And about as useful as a pack of cigarettes for taking photos until a lens is mounted, greatly increasing the size. A fixed lens FP would be super interesting!
I've always wondered why we don't see more APS-C and Micro 4/3 sense compact cameras, or even full frame sensers. I think we are fast approaching a time if we are not already there where 1" sensers are not going to be worth the investment compared to cell-phone cameras.
Bought the x70 second hand like 6 years ago. It's fantastic but an EVF is needed. I'm still waiting for an x100 camera an 18mm lens. Using x-e4+18mmf2 now.
I saved up some money hoping to see some new compact cameras like this show up from one or more of the major brands. Sure we got the X100vi it's a great camera but for me came up over my budget and a bit too feature rich. After waiting in hope for the last 12 months I gave up and bought a new bycycle lol. I have a few Olympus micro 4/3rds camera bodies and lenses but wanted a point and shoot to compliment my already compact camera system. The GRiii is close but for me the poor video quality was a turn of in this day and age.
My X70 is never leaving my collection. I also have a Ricoh GR which is the only real alternative. Fuji is fully invested in the X100 series and X70 successor is never going to happen. I think Micro Four Thirds is the format that can tackle this market. Specifically an Olympus Pen-F mark II since with the smaller than APS-C sensor they can fit more in the smaller body.
I bought an x70 in early 2020 before used prices for Fujis went crazy. Think I spent $429. It's a great little camera, and I agree the slow focusing and subpar battery life are little drawbacks. I actually prefer a 35 mm focal length over 28 mm (FF equivalent), but the X100 is so much bigger, too expensive, and frankly hard to get given the limited supply. Fuji did make the XF10 with the newer xtrans sensor, but the design was quite different and less attractive (more like point and shoot) and the focusing was no better (indeed maybe even worse).
Jeebus. Silver X70 for $1K on KEH right now. Love the idea of a small camera but no way I’d ever pay a grand for an 8 year old, 16MP, fixed lens camera. That’s just insane.
market doesnt make sense right now
"Then take the 20mm f2.8 pancake lens they made in 2013, throw it away, and make a new one" 😂 That is SO accurate 😂
People have been barking at Fuji for years to make a new X70 but it has fallen on deaf ears. I have the X70 and love it. It has it's short comings for an 8 year old camera as you mentioned but I make due. If Ricoh can but a new APSC sensor in thier small compact camera I don't see why fuji can't update the X-70. I also have just picked up an RX1R and this little camera has blown my socks off. Yet another camera that is desperately waiting for an update!
Nikon A
Same sensor as in the DSLR D5100 and D7000
These types of cameras unfortunately compete against smartphones.
Until recently most fujis were made in Japan with lots of hand assembly, so they didn't have much capacity. They've struggled to make enough x100vs and 100vis, and even XT5s to keep up with demand, and they've been overly conservative with their investments to boost capacity. They always say they are surprised by the level of demand, but at a certain point, that's incompetence. I would love them to make a newer version of the x70, and the Ricoh GRIII continues to show there is some decent demand for a small fixed lens APS-C camera. The mobile phone camera decimated the entire entry and mid-level point and shoot camera market. But there is a demand for high-end ones for enthusiasts. The other thing folks need to understand is that cameras are now a very small part of Fuji's corporate business. Majority of the business is now in health care (medical electronics and imaging, biotech and pharma), office equipment, and chemicals.
@@odemata87 this is a fact, people really do have this perception, but I've never really understood that. The kind of images smartphones create can be genuinely impressive but they just don't have the look of images from cameras with larger sensors. Perhaps the biggest benefit of using a *camera* rather than a cameraphone is the dedicated camera body, grip, controls and the speed of operation.
@@AndrewSowerby To be fair, people might look at a small camera and think it isn't as good as a dslr or mirrorless. Plus, there is the thought process of "why buy a new camera when my phone takes perfectly good ones."
Like you said, even the X100V is a bit too big. An updated version of this would be a dream! Small, APSC, USBC, articulating touch screen, Fuji recipes. Sign me up! Ricoh GR comes close, but those Fuji recipes are top notch since I'd only wanna shoot JPEG with something like this
I switched to micro four thirds after discovering that I was doing as well in camera club competitions when using my Canon G1X Mk 2 as I did when using my full frame DSLR. I came to the realisation that sensors a bit smaller than APSC were not a disadvantage.
Several manufacturers are guilty of no longer making popular small camera bodies including change able lens models ... Pan GX9. Oly Pen F. eos M...X70.....but life goes on...I have resigned myself to just using the Sony A7c bodies to fill most of my needs.... I loved the Fuji X70...plus the wide angle conversion lens kit...Cheers
To be fair to Sony, they didn't "abruptly" discontinued the 16MP sensor that Fuji used in the X70... however Fuji was really behind schedule for the X70, and they released the camera in 2016... even though by this time Fujifilm released the 24MP X-Trans III in the X-T2 and X-Pro2. Everybody expected the X70 to have this sensor but no, Fuji fit the previous generation sensor in there, which was itself based on the yet again previous gen X-Trans 1, a sensor that Fujifilm has been using since 2012, and that Sony has been producting since 2010 (or thereabouts).
If Fujifilm waited a couple of months, to take the time to properly fit the X-Trans III in there, there would have been no issues.
An interesting thing is that Fujifilm fully expected to sell a TON of X70s, and as a result made a sh*t ton of that small 18.5mm lens... Sony cutton the production meant that they couldn't produce X70s anymore, and that they would stay unused in a warehouse somewhere... so in 2019, Fujifilm cobbled up another camera using that lens, with parts from other cameras with the goal of making it as cheap as possible : they took the guts of an X-A5 (same sensor / processor combo as the X-T100), used a smaller body, strapped the lens to it and released that as the XF10. Decent small 24MP camera overall, but it wasn't really a great performer (neither was the X70 when it comes to AF etc tbh) and the camera didn't sell well. Fujifilm went through their 18.5mm lens inventory, and then quickly discontinued the camera.
An X70S or something similar would be great though. But I don't know if Fujifilm would be willing to do the whole thing again, especially today when they already struggle to produce enough X100VI cameras to satisfy demand
I've followed Arthur for a while (to lean more about my a6000 and lenses for it). I am 100% here for this fuji content. Super fun cameras
In the early 1970s I moved up from a Kodak Instamatic film camera to my first 35mm model. My 2 year old son was growing up, and I wanted sharp photo memories. I invested in the uber classic Konica C-35 with a focusing/composing viewfinder, a 38mm full frame f/2.8 lens. Konica sold millions of them around the world, and I continued to use that camera even after acquiring my first SLR. I still have the C-35. Arthur, like your new studio.
I use my dads old konica autoreflex t3 ! Great camera
Just picked up a used sony a7C and a zeiss 35mm 2.8, pretty good quality for price and compactness
I bought and sold this camera 3 different times. Loved the images that came out. But two things that made me sale it was the lack of view finder, reason i dont shoot with my phone and auto focus. Was always hoping for the X80.
Yes! A Sony 26 mp camera with an EVF, flip up screen, 23mm f2 lens with aperture ring and distance scale, buttons and dials, weather sealing, IBIS, latest AF and Sony would have a winner on its hands.
It would sell for at least 1500$ with all these features
A6700 has all those features with interchangeable lenses to boot!
Definitely agree! I have the first in that line, the X10, a zoom. It is a brilliant little metal box in the hand.
the x10 is not the same line as the x70
the x70 had no predecessor.
@@martinphilipps8678 You are correct in terms the specs: they are very different, including the sensor (x70 being APSC) and lens (x70 fixed). The X70 is actually even smaller than the x10. It is more like a Ricoh GR line.
Ricoh GR lineup is exactly what you are describing - these cameras are excellent.
Might have to try one now!
@@ArthurR can i ask what watch you're wearing?
Even they're ignoring it though - we're way overdue for a GR IV.
@@anonymousl5150Pagani PD-1722
I have the GR IIIx, which I generally like, but the autofocus is just so clunky if you are used to newer mirrorless cameras. Especially when using it for day to day photography of family with small kids.
I would buy a GR IV with better autofocus immediately.
Really well-done video. I bit the bullet a few years ago and compromised going to M4/3. Most everyone has different standards so I imagine the X70 works for some but not for others. The price is a bit much for my tastes considering the competition. Did you struggle finding a good used copy? Is the screen viewable in bright sun light? The resale value will likely hold so that’s a plus. Your gear selection choices are interesting on this channel! I appreciate you.
Dude 11:00 was so funny, that's exactly my thought process. I wonder how they would price such a camera but there definitely is a need for it. The RX1 looks great but it needs an update. And for the apsc users they really should make a decent 23-27mm pancake. It would make sense since that's the more compact line...
We need this camera so bad...!!!! 40mp, 28mm f 2.0 Let's Go Fuji
Why would you need 40MP...?! Just compose BEFORE taking a picture.
@@kermitage lol, ok
@@kermitage I debated on answer this because obviously your clueless, but what does composing have to do with detail? 40 MP is fuji's standard sensor now, better you email Fuji and ask them why. Ask them why they don't just compose BEFORE the shot. .......🤣
I totally agree with what youve said. For me the lack of a viewfinder is a deal breaker and the focus issues are due to the camera being contrast detect only where as the XE2s has phase detection autofocus. Also Fujifilm wont want a new X70 to compete with its X100 line of cameras, but the X100 is not a pocketable camera in comparison. Ill stick with my A6300s. You could look at the Fujifilm X-M1 camera coupled with either an 18mm pancake or the 27mm pancake lens.
That little camera makes very 'filmic' Jpegs, very nice shots, must have been fun to use!
There is most assuredly a market for a small photocentric camera. Fuji used to make a small zoom lens camera line, x10,x20,x30 with a small 2/3 inch sensor. I would love to see an update to that series with an aps-c size sensor. I would definitely be one of the first in line if they made that happen!
They would be a lot bigger with an APSC sensor. A bigger sensor needs a bigger lens.
I liked the x10, but the small sensor is a big compromise. I'm using micro four thirds these days.
The 70 does sound nice but auto focus would have me hesitating. So used to my sony 6400 and 6700 doing a lot of the focus work.
I understand not wanting to go as small as a 1" sensor because of low light performance, but the Sony RX100 VA might be worth at least checking out. 24-70mm zoom, and the fast F1.8-2.8 aperture might at least somewhat make up for the smaller sensor in lower light (it also has a flash). 315 phase-detect autofocus points and 24fps burst, so you're unlikely to miss a moment due to the camera's limitations. Plus, it has that all-important electronic viewfinder. It might not be as ideal as a larger sensor camera as far as performance, but it's ideal in size and definitely fits the "the best camera is the one you have on you" edict while you leave the bigger camera at home, and should at the least take better pictures than your cell phone.
I have a silver one in nearly mint condition to sell. With wideangle converter and Fuji leather half cover... I even have ND-filters for it!
Located in Germany.
You can also make fine art photos with it not just family photos. I made long exposures with it on a tiny tripod.
I think this type of camera is the best concept for smartphone shooters who don't want much of a camera but want to learn making 'real' photos themselves. Who want to figure out what it is all about with exposure and aperture and stuff. Not having an evf they're used to, they won't miss it.
In my case it was like so. It taught me photography, it was my first real camera (therefore I was sucked into the Fuji system).
When you then come more into it, you can switch to a camera with interchangeable lenses and go wild buying stuff and carry around big heavy bags.
Hellou, where are you selling it? I'm interested.
@@andresbarriga5305 Where are you? Then I can find out how much shipping costs are from Germany to your country.
@@73smoo I've lived in germany. curretly I'm in my homecountry. But my sister is german. So she could get it for now. Kein Problem.
have you sold the camera???
Bin ebenfalls interessiert, hast du die Kamera noch? Wenn ja für wieviel willst du sie verkaufen?
I’ll go for a Sony Rx3, I had the rx1 and it was a great camera. Thanks for your videos.
The Canon G1X and the Lumix LX100 instantly came to mind, even though they're APS-C and MFT respectably. A fixed lens A6000 series camera would be amazing. Maybe basing it on the A6600 since that had IBIS, but keeping the older sensor to incentivize moving up to the A6700. Maybe a 16-50mm zoom lens at up F1.8-2.8 variable aperture so it could feel like a larger version of the ZV-1 II but priced accordingly around $1200. Less than an A6700 with a good kit but you still have reason to upgrade should you so choose
My first "real" camera was a Canon superzoom. Loved that thing even though the images were not the greatest at the time.
I love the A6400/6700 as an ideal combination of power and portability.
That was a wonderful video presentation. I really do love that camera. 😊
Lmao @ the "take the 20/2.8 ... and throw it away."
I love a good pancake 28mm for friends and family shots; you're always at the right distance to get head&shoulders but don't distort faces like a 20mm can. With a big sensor in a tiny body behind it you can get just enough background separation to feel a little more special than a smartphone - and I can see why you prefer the EVF, because much like holding a dedicated camera rather than a phone that can nudge you to be in an active, "how can I capture this moment meaningfully" frame of mind rather than "oh let me get a picture real quick". The NEX 7 (which is surprisingly small if you're used to the 6X00 series) and the 20/2.8 might be the right combo for you - if they weren't badly outdated at this point.
So good seeing you do a Fuji video! Thanks Arthur!
A ricoh GR III or a MFT camera with the 14mm pancake lens are good alternatives
I have one. Best thing I've ever bought. EVF: I like them, but don't miss them with this tiny camera. Slow autofocus: very true, but not a problem most of the time. Battery life: limited, but never held me back. A *truly* pocketable APSC camera is the best camera you can get. A slightly faster lens would make it perfect. Especially if, like Ricoh, it offered 28 and 40mm equiv options. I dream of that...
I got lucky and bought an X70 many years ago before the prices went way up. It is a neat little camera. I also have a Fuji X100T, also bought before the latest Fuji craze. Just recently I found an X T4 with a 35mm f2 lens, in like new condition, with a box and accessories, in a pawn shop, for $595. I think pawn shops are going to be your best bet for finding one of these "rare" Fuji cameras, half the time they don't know what they have.
Love Fujifilm cameras. If the X100V hadn’t become so popular I might have gotten an older X100 but I had to settle on the X100VI…
A small camera with outstanding image quality is a wonderful idea. Sigma tried it with the DP1 and DP2. Too bad they were ridiculously expensive.
I agree with your suggestions near the end. I have one of these cameras and I love it, but also find it frustrating. The lack of a viewfinder is the big one. I had to set up the camera to just take jpgs so I could set it to sharpen the images. OTW the lack of sharpness with the 18mm lens was unacceptable in my copy. I totally agree the batteries are too weak and go flat quickly. I also noticed my Fuji brand batteries would not charge with the Fuji charger. I have to use an off-brand charger to charge the Fuji batteries. That makes no sense to me. I like to set it up for 1:1 and b&w for street shooting since it previews precisely on the LCD that way. I love the direct access to apertures and ss. It's in mint condition and I can't bring myself to part with it despite the high prices.
For me the small Fuji bodies I liked were the XE-1,2, and 3 because I always wanted interchangeable lenses but unfortunately sold my XE-3 and regretted it. Now I replaced them with the Sony compact C cameras like the A7C2 and A7CR. I also own full size full frame bodies but like these smaller bodies a lot. Have always mistakenly overlooked fixed lens cameras like the Sony RX1R, but would now buy one if the brought it back. Thanks for the video and take care.
Seeing this vid of yours a bit late. Yeah, would LOVE to get an updated version of this camera. All the existing controls look to be the perfect balance. Also like the 'auto' switch.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s my favorite camera even though I have the X100VI. It’s smaller and thus more portable so I have it in my sling or pack wherever I go.
Completely agree that the market is screaming out for something like this. It is borderline criminal that Fuji hasn't released an x80 and a mystery as to why other manufacturers have also failed to release something similar. The only thing that I can think of is that it would be too successful. Users would have an extremely powerful tool in their pocket with no need to upgrade or buy lenses for.
This makes sense if you think about it.
It would likely eat into X100 sales
More accurately it takes a hell of a lot to design a camera, especially a small camera. Say a camera like the a6700, it was assuredly in development for over 5 years. You're not gonna get this instantly, and their future plans are likely still effected by 2020. Wait a few years, stop talking out your tucus, and you'll get it. Companies aren't dumb.
@@LindonSlaght This is the silliest thing I've read in ages, thank you. Camera brands are perfectly capable of updating models quicker than every 10 years.
@@thomashill5768 that's not the point I'm making. I'm specifically talking about reacting to changing market conditions. That's not very quick for most companies.
I love my X70, although find the lens a little wider than I'd like. Great to have in my pocket and the pictures I get from it are great!
The colours looks awesome. Looks nostalgic feel
Yes! Arthur builds a camera!!!
Bought the X70 mint condition for $200 in 2019. I blame Mattias Burling for it. I love the colors coming out of this little thing. Yes, Continuous AF is bad. Just set it to Single AF and Single Point or Zone; it's fine, not great. A viewfinder would be nice to have but I can live without one. Probably the worst part for me would be the battery life. I'm thinking about getting an X-E3 + 27mm pancake to replace it.
I'm glad you're trying out Fujifilm cameras. You don't have to like it; being open to try is enough. I followed you when I got my a6000. Loved that camera but hated its colors. Tried out the a6300, a7sii and a7iii, still wasn't happy. Got the X-T30 and fell in love with Fuji colors ever since. From there I got the X70, X-T1 and X-S10. AF can be frustrating (Sony is still the best in that area), but I love the JPEG and RAW from Fuji.
You've always had a pretty fair assessment of cameras and lenses which is why I stuck around. Keep it up Arthur, you're doing great!
An alternative still available today is the Ricoh GR III, which comes in two versions with 28mm and 40mm lenses. It’s equally compact, with the same-sized APS-C sensor and excellent IQ. However, it has fewer physical controls, no tilt screen, and the autofocus is from 2010.
Nikon Coolpix A is an alternative to X70, kind of. It has 16-megapixel CMOS sensor, F2.8 18.5mm lens, even built-in flash etc. No viewfinder, maximum shutter is only 1/2000, no tilt or touch screen and of course, no Fuji-style film emulations - there are some disadvantages in comparison. But it has good autofocus, nice image quality and better battery life than X70. And it is much much more cheaper than the latter: when it was released in back 2013, its initial price was even higher than X70, namely 1100 US dollars. Today its price is about two hundread dollars or less - some four times cheaper than X70.
The Nikon Coolpix A was my first thought as well though you may be surprised at the prices . I certainly could not find any at $200 MPB US has one silver model in just good condition at $569
Well said regarding what Sony should do! Take the 20mm and throw it away 🤣🤣🤣 Also nice sponsoring partner, rightly timed for me - I'll be ordering one (from Germany, so unfortunately not using your link).
The X70 was the best small camera I have owned. It became unavailable almost as soon as it was released. I would still use mine except that I broke it.
The filter on the camera appears to be one designed for film cameras. I suspect you will find the lens is sharper without that filter OR even better add a good filter designed for digital cameras.
Great review & some lovely images, thks.
Until I (recently) got into an APSC Fuji, I took a lot of decent photos with a wee little Canon GS9 Mk2. As long as you don't need 'pro' results you can do well with something literally the size of a deck of cards. The camera in your pocket is better than anything sitting back at home.
You should take another look at micro 4/3. The stabilization is so good you can easily complete with larger sensors. Sometimes the computational abilities they have can even give better results than my full frame Sonys. Only in select situations but still impressive.
Agree great camera even more versatile with the wide angle lens and slide on optical viewfinder you didn't mention the zoom function that allows 35 and 50 mm framing when 28 is too wide + the wide angle lens can be used on the x100 to make the 35 in to a 26 mm lens works great
Shortcomings aside, as an a7iii user, I love being able to throw the x70 in my pocket. I only wish it was an f2.0 or better.... are we ever satisfied? lol
I agree with you, I would love a small dedicated stills camera as per your suggestions thank you ...
The X70 has 3-D pop! Very nice!
Sony in general seem to have a strong focus on compact full frame. The A7C line for hybrid, A7CR line for photo, the ZV-E1 you mentioned for video. Paired with one of their compact f/2.5 primes you get incredible size to performance. I also love my Viltrox 20mm f/2.8 prime, it's lighter than even the Sony 11mm on APS-C. You also have the ridiculously small 28-60mm zoom that's smaller than most APS-C zooms.
I appreciate the X70 size is amazing, it is, but is it worth the drawbacks? - that 18mm lens is also available as a pancake for X-Mount and it's really not a very pleasant experience to use with a very slow, loud focus motor that hunts and a bit of a dull focal length of 28mm - even phones moved away from this focal length.
Fuji's latest attempt at a thinner camera with the X100VI also comes with many drawbacks, f/3 full frame equivalent, noisy slow focus motors, soft images wide open, below average performance in distortion/vignette/chromatic aberration, the tele/wide convertors compound the problems, etc. Anything smaller you also lose IBIS.
Awesome video!
Definitely would buy a pocket-able fujifilm camera in the size of the ricoh.
loved my X70, just recently sold it for a Rollei 35 cuz I couldn't bear faking the film look anymore lol
I’m still waiting for X70S many many years later. I miss my X70.
In my wet dreams I see a Ricoh GR with 40mp sensor from Fuji and AF capabilities from Sony. Or a 25% smaller X100VI for being really pocketable.
I love fuji xf-10: wrt x70 with xf10 you get better sensor a bit smaller body but not tilt screen. Take a look.
Thanks for your work!
I am using a Fuji x-t10 because i absolutely love how people look with that x-trans ii sensor. Classic-Chrome with Color +2 and you get basically perfect skintones all the time. Also the Autofokus on the x-t10 (or x-t1) is a lot better than the x70. I tried the newer x-t3 but the colors out of the x-trans ii are something else. My friends are absolutely in love with the images when i download them on my phone. With the 27mm f2.8 from fujifilm or ttartisan it is small enough for a fanny pack. So i can basically take it with me wherever i want. Festivals, Night Clubs, Hikes. Got the x-t10 for 240 and the xf27 for 260. Maybe a suggestion for someone who is looking for a cheap compact set-up. At least here in Germany the x-tx0 series is way cheaper than the x-ex series, while being similar in footprint.
The X70 has been a camera I really want to try out but haven't yet. I did own the XF10 for some time and its creates beautiful images, sharper than even the X100V sometimes, but the whole shooting experience is so bad that I ended up giving it up 😥 Currently the best in this category is still the GRIII imo (I currently own the IIIx).
Had the X70 when it came out and it’s a little jem 👍
I have the Sony RX1. Fantastic camera. Excellent photo quality.
Sony A6700 has nearly identical physical dimensions and weight of the RX1Rii with the added benefit of interchangeable lenses and other vastly superior features. I purchased mine with the 18-135mm 3.5/5.7 lens. It's a go everywhere light weight camera that's great for photos and video. When i want pocketable I take my RX100.
Fuji XF10 was a little brother, same optical and generic operation with a 24M pixels.
The picture quality is even better, but the dials on the high-end system is missing.
It was discontinued soon after released in 2018.
I personally wish if Fuji would release the x90, which comes with a 27 mm pancake on an X70 body.
The Nikon coolpix A struck a good balance between small sensor and Full frame.
I bought one new back when they launched and eventually sold it. I've regretted letting that camera go ever since and prices have just gotten silly on them over the past few years, every time I look to pick up another one it almost gives me a heart attack!
Cmon, Arthur, we know you have that new Sony RX1R iii for testing. 😂 good stuff as always. 🤙🏽
I only wish you were correct. So far, no one has confirmed the existence of such a camera
What you are describing is something that many photographers have desired yet the new Gen Y&Z want videos. Face it, we are a dying breed and if we want something that is small and takes good pics, we will pull out our old Nikon Coolpix 9700 or similar and say oh well.
Instead of a photo walk, we'll have to record a video and then just edit screenshots, haha
by and large I agree, but I would still make it ILC with a pancake lens offered as kit and I wouldn't take out video, even with very short recording time restrictions, let's say a zv-10 II with a tilt screen (instead of these ubiquitous very annoying vari-angle displays), a mech shutter, a flash (possibly with some innovations) and some sort of evf...
Another small Fuji people don’t really talk about is the xf10, little newer and can get quite cheap too
Have you used Sony RX100M7 ???
I'm with you! I know everybody hates the Sony W battery, but I prefer it over the Z battery for small cameras. Sure the a6700 has a Z battery, but it's also the same size and weight as the full frame a7c, so what's the point. It's amazing how much smaller the a6000 was vs the a6700. Even though Sony is known for small, they've nonetheless creeped to larger bodies, especially in APS-C. The zv cameras are cool in many ways, but like you, I just find a camera with no viewfinder no fun to use.
Sony needs to make a RX1R iii
Recently I got the original EOS M + 22mm F2 for experimenting with magic lantern an I discovered how enjoyable and compact (almost compact camera) is for pictures. Also I'm enjoying image quality overall.
So, yeah. We need more quality compact versions of the big ones
This post makes me miss my Canon G11. Choice of types of digital cameras is becoming very limited, with some of the 'fringe' designs being offered by a single manufacturer like Fuji and most being dropped altogether. It's mirrorless or dslr or nothing these days. I just wish they'd put decent size viewfinders in them, whether electronic or (preferably) optical. I'd have to buy a Pentax KF - and pay for a lot of features I'll never use.
I’ve wanted one for years but could never justify the $1200 it was (around me) for a used camera. The x70 is a solid design and would be perfect for day to day use if I can ever find one for a decent price
give the Ricoh GR3/3x a try as well, highly recommend. I love that camera even without a viewfinder.
He'll need plenty of patience getting his hands on one!
Hi thanks, i do 90% my low light using a 1" sensor and 1.4 lens use a very small lumix LX15 leica lens. Its compat with my S5ii
I still prefer the option of swapping lenses or body's out which is why I'm sticking with mirrorless. The Sony 6000 series has been my dream system. You could just get one of the new Samyang remastered ultra-slim lenses (say the 32mm f2.8) put it on any mirrorless apsc body and it would be just as pocketable.
Boy I never do video and i agree with you just a photo camera
Is MFT smaller than APSC for you since they are not same aspect ratio hence you get not the same picture even at same formal length?
Shot great pictures 👍
Great video. Cool watch!
Arthur , buy an xt30, I've it with the 27mm 2.8 pancake, and is always with me on vacations!
How is the autofocus performance?
Better than x70, but not up to Sony. The colors are much better in xt30 (xt20)
@@ArthurR is good enough!Pair with the xt3 ,the big sister 😃
Wish I had never sold mine. I agree with the comments about size, weight and capability
Hey Arthur. I know you don’t like the 20mm pancake, but honestly I find it too good for the size. Especially for street. IQ is better than the kit len and optically is not that bad compare with others pancakes lenses from others brands. Try the Nex 5T with this len and you’ll get an excellent compact combination for street. AF is better than this X70 and it’s only thicker by few mm.
Remember for street you don’t need the sharpest len
This is true. My copy when i had it was worse in the corners than the kit lens, which just didnt make sense. It could have been a QC issue though, at the time Sony had problems with a handful of lenses. I may re-visit it and try to build the sony version of the X100V...
@@ArthurR that len is decently sharp in the corners from F5.6 to F8. Looking forward to that video 🙂
@@ArthurR btw when it comes to size and features I think the A6500 body is the closest one to X100VI plus is has IBIS. I don’t count A6700 and 6400 because they are thinker
I do think the 6xxx lineup from Sony its a good size. Personally i do have 6700 and really like to how I can hold in my hand. Even the A7 series( I do not have any ). I just feel them like, you got something into your hands for that money.
Get a Sony A7CII with a 24mm 2.8G G lens. It's close enough to what you're asking for.
As I’m watching the video, I was uttering the same comments. I own the A7C, great little camera (and Full Frame to boot). Curious to know what it wasn’t even mentioned.
I got an a7c too, but fujifilm simulation films is unbeatable 😢
If memory serves, he has (or at least had) an A7C. Small for a full frame, sure, but nowhere near as pocktable as an X70.
In a completely different size and weight class unfortunately
@MrJed_s Not really. A Fuji X100VI body weighs 471 grams. An A7CII body is actually lighter at 429 grams.
Sigma makes the Sigma FP and the FPL. Both full frame cameras that are as big as a pack of cigarettes. I believe the FP has the same sensor as the A73, and the FPL has the A7R5 sensor, and you can add an electronic view finder to either one.
Is that the one with the electronic viewfinder that mounts on the top and adds ~20% to the width of the camera?
@@ArthurR it mounts to the side, not the top, and yes it does make it wider. I’m in Austin. If you want to check it out, let me know. I have the FP, the electronic view finder, a few lenses, and a low profile 1 tb SSD that mounts on the bottom of the camera.
And about as useful as a pack of cigarettes for taking photos until a lens is mounted, greatly increasing the size. A fixed lens FP would be super interesting!
I've always wondered why we don't see more APS-C and Micro 4/3 sense compact cameras, or even full frame sensers.
I think we are fast approaching a time if we are not already there where 1" sensers are not going to be worth the investment compared to cell-phone cameras.
Bought the x70 second hand like 6 years ago. It's fantastic but an EVF is needed. I'm still waiting for an x100 camera an 18mm lens. Using x-e4+18mmf2 now.
Fuji prices are stupid crazy here in korea too....
I saved up some money hoping to see some new compact cameras like this show up from one or more of the major brands. Sure we got the X100vi it's a great camera but for me came up over my budget and a bit too feature rich. After waiting in hope for the last 12 months I gave up and bought a new bycycle lol.
I have a few Olympus micro 4/3rds camera bodies and lenses but wanted a point and shoot to compliment my already compact camera system. The GRiii is close but for me the poor video quality was a turn of in this day and age.
I could definitely see a new X70 and have it stand apart from the X100VI by using the 26MP sensor from the X-S20.
My X70 is never leaving my collection. I also have a Ricoh GR which is the only real alternative.
Fuji is fully invested in the X100 series and X70 successor is never going to happen. I think Micro Four Thirds is the format that can tackle this market. Specifically an Olympus Pen-F mark II since with the smaller than APS-C sensor they can fit more in the smaller body.
I'd love to see Olympus update the legendary XA2. Tiny, 35mm f2 lens modern auto focus.
I bought an x70 in early 2020 before used prices for Fujis went crazy. Think I spent $429. It's a great little camera, and I agree the slow focusing and subpar battery life are little drawbacks. I actually prefer a 35 mm focal length over 28 mm (FF equivalent), but the X100 is so much bigger, too expensive, and frankly hard to get given the limited supply. Fuji did make the XF10 with the newer xtrans sensor, but the design was quite different and less attractive (more like point and shoot) and the focusing was no better (indeed maybe even worse).