Nice comprehensive look at these funnels! I just posted a video about the MHW-3BOMBER tools and I compared their funnel to the Normcore and Sworks Design. I really like the Sworks Design funnel but it's definitely on the more expensive side. I'm glad you pointed out how the funnels sit on the basket and that some leave a gap in the coffee, I have the same pet peeve and talked about that in my video as well!!!
You really should try the SworksDesign dosing ring. By far the best I've ever used. Strong magnets, tall, and sits flush on the side so I can direct-dose from my DF64E.
I'm so glad that I have subscribed! Otherwise I would not have seen this video! You have included so many crucial points in this video that so many other reviews I have seen did not include. Love your thorough and critical analyses in a wide variety (or 54 mm narrow... Lol) of usages. Excellent video!
the dosing funnel by aro was by far the best bang for my buck..a tad pricey but they offer it in different heights…reminds me of a sworksdesigns seamless magnetic deals
Been using the Barista Hustle at home and the flair58 at work for at least a year now each. I'd say I prefer the BH one overall (look/feel/stronger magnets) however it is less of a funnel which is more of an important feature on bar with our workflow dosing directly into the Portafilter. So my two cents.. For home use with a dosing cup and then WDT the BH comes out on top for busy bar use dosing directly to the portafilter - the Flair and its acceptable magnets/better funnel come out on top.
Thanks Josh, my question is what height Normcore dosing ring is best for Breville Barista Pro? Also, what height for Breville Express? Thank you for the video
It's not going to work if you place it on the portafilter whilst dosing in to under the in-built grinder sadly. There is only one dosing ring that will work and it is a Breville part we do not stock yet.
Hi Josh, great video as usual! I'm new to a lot of the finer details in espresso though - have just been using my 'simple' SMEG (ECF01RDAU) 50's Retro Style. Having just bought from AB the complete Wacaco Nanopresso set up (GR and NS pods) I'm starting to want to up my game and looking at a suitable espresso hand grinder (for both home and Wacaco) and also wondered about a funnel, WDT tool etc. I can't find much info online or in the manual though for my SMEG on its basket size. I know it takes a 51mm tamper (I use a La Pavioni), but I can;t decide if it's 54mm, 58mm or it's own unique size. Measuring the filter basket that sits in the portafilter it is 51.5m internal diameter at the top and 61.5mm outside diameter - neither of which fills me with hope for a 54mm or 58mm funnel selection - unless I am missing something on how (where) they measure their quoted sizes. I'd be surprised if they (SMEG) don't use a standard size, but am willing to accept this may be the case. Any thoughts on a Funnel that could work with this home unit and also even the Nanopresso? I'm thinking of maybe a 1ZPresso K-Plus as a Hand Grinder (if you get them back in stock?) as a first to step up in my espresso game - but I want it for both home and the Wacaco - but no need for filter/ pour over or cold brews, just espresso, so happy to accept other recommendations for a hand grinder to suit. I know I need to upgrade from the SMEG for the home espresso unit, but it needs to breakdown first before senior management will allow a replacement upgrade yet! The other steps that will improve I can start with now - Wacaco for travel (done!), grinder, funnel etc. I can go ahead with them now for my current set ups 'under the radar' without setting too many new espresso machine alarm bells ;-) Any recommendations about suitable Grinder and Funnel greatly received! Thanks!
Not a necessary upgrade imo. Get a VST/precision professional basket to get the most out of your expensive grinder. You just get richer consistent espresso out. And go ridgeless if your stock one had a ridge. Its SO much better.
Hi Josh, Great video. Thinking of buying a couple of normcores - one for my father who has the technical Profi IV and the eureka specialita and one for myself with the niche. Can you comment as to how the normcore would fit grinding from the specialita into the portafilter? The video seemed to show it being average to OK on the niche.
This should work so long as you're able to drop the portafilter rest down. I'd be more inclined to get the short just in case - rather than the tall for the specialita 🫶
Hey I know this is somewhat of an old video but was actually looking at the Normcore dosing funnel as well. I noticed they have a tall version. Is it necessary to get the tall version or is their plenty of room with this one? For reference I have an Eureka Mignon Zero grinder and usually use the dosing cup instead of grinding directly in the portafilter. Thanks in advance!
G'day Josh, in keeping with the normcore suggestion, do you have any preference in which size collar to go for? The short, medium or tall size? Or rather, what did you use throughout this video? Thanks so much
The Precision collar although advertised as stainless steel is really aluminum, mine has oxidised badly after it was put through a Cafetto cleaning cycle. All other true stainless steel parts come out as you would expect, nice and shiny clean the Precision collar did not fair well!. it IS cheap so I'm not really fussed however buyer beware.
I've heard it's very similar to the Normcore in it's Magnetic / Angle's high walls. Just flew under the radar for me and I forgot to put it in the review unfortunately 😳
He is right i bought the ring with inner collar first because i couldnt find the one that sits outside and its the worst thing ever i dont understand how the coffee companies even sell something like that because these people shoud know something about making coffee and the thing about those inner collars is they completely murder your shots..dont buy this even if you cannot get the other one..rather wait till you find it
hello, I have a question, when we buying the coffee ring, there is writing size for example 51mm.. how we should choose the size? this 51mm is inside of portafilter? or how we should measure?
51mm would be for the la pavoni machines. Most Machines will be either 58mm or 53.4mm portafilters - and is dictated by the size of the grouphead / portafilter.
@@AlternativeBrewingI've found that it's the basket that may cause the issue. The ranchilo basket works fine but another aftermarket basket may not stick as well to the magnets.
@@AlternativeBrewing no worries. Different baskets are made of different materials thus the ferrous properties are different I would imagine. Anyways, you are welcome! Cheers
Depends - 52mm, that's a tricky one! There's 51mm and 53.5mm - you may be able to go with the 53.5mm as there's usually an edge though there's nothing I've come across that fits 52mm exactly sorry! What machine is it?
@1:43 And you can (obviously ;-) _not_ directly tamp through this dosing ring, after using you WDT… This awful idea of having an inner ring can only come from people who _never_ are testing/using their own design…
I think the fact that the BH can neatly fit a dosing cup for inverted transfer of grounds shouldn't be underestimated 👍
Nice comprehensive look at these funnels! I just posted a video about the MHW-3BOMBER tools and I compared their funnel to the Normcore and Sworks Design. I really like the Sworks Design funnel but it's definitely on the more expensive side. I'm glad you pointed out how the funnels sit on the basket and that some leave a gap in the coffee, I have the same pet peeve and talked about that in my video as well!!!
You really should try the SworksDesign dosing ring. By far the best I've ever used. Strong magnets, tall, and sits flush on the side so I can direct-dose from my DF64E.
I'm so glad that I have subscribed! Otherwise I would not have seen this video! You have included so many crucial points in this video that so many other reviews I have seen did not include. Love your thorough and critical analyses in a wide variety (or 54 mm narrow... Lol) of usages.
Excellent video!
the dosing funnel by aro was by far the best bang for my buck..a tad pricey but they offer it in different heights…reminds me of a sworksdesigns seamless magnetic deals
Just grabbed one, thanks Josh!
Great review. Thanks Josh. Looks like it'll be the Normcore for me! :)
My pleasure 😀
Been using the Barista Hustle at home and the flair58 at work for at least a year now each. I'd say I prefer the BH one overall (look/feel/stronger magnets) however it is less of a funnel which is more of an important feature on bar with our workflow dosing directly into the Portafilter.
So my two cents..
For home use with a dosing cup and then WDT the BH comes out on top
for busy bar use dosing directly to the portafilter - the Flair and its acceptable magnets/better funnel come out on top.
Thanks! Valuable info there 👌
The Flair58 dosing ring works great as well, similar to the normcore.
This is what I use. The flair 58's ring is basically the same. I do use normcore for pretty much everything else as far as puck prep goes though
IMO the Sworks design dosing ring is the best
Thanks Josh, my question is what height Normcore dosing ring is best for Breville Barista Pro? Also, what height for Breville Express? Thank you for the video
It's not going to work if you place it on the portafilter whilst dosing in to under the in-built grinder sadly. There is only one dosing ring that will work and it is a Breville part we do not stock yet.
Hi Josh, great video as usual! I'm new to a lot of the finer details in espresso though - have just been using my 'simple' SMEG (ECF01RDAU) 50's Retro Style.
Having just bought from AB the complete Wacaco Nanopresso set up (GR and NS pods) I'm starting to want to up my game and looking at a suitable espresso hand grinder (for both home and Wacaco) and also wondered about a funnel, WDT tool etc.
I can't find much info online or in the manual though for my SMEG on its basket size.
I know it takes a 51mm tamper (I use a La Pavioni), but I can;t decide if it's 54mm, 58mm or it's own unique size.
Measuring the filter basket that sits in the portafilter it is 51.5m internal diameter at the top and 61.5mm outside diameter - neither of which fills me with hope for a 54mm or 58mm funnel selection - unless I am missing something on how (where) they measure their quoted sizes.
I'd be surprised if they (SMEG) don't use a standard size, but am willing to accept this may be the case.
Any thoughts on a Funnel that could work with this home unit and also even the Nanopresso?
I'm thinking of maybe a 1ZPresso K-Plus as a Hand Grinder (if you get them back in stock?) as a first to step up in my espresso game - but I want it for both home and the Wacaco - but no need for filter/ pour over or cold brews, just espresso, so happy to accept other recommendations for a hand grinder to suit.
I know I need to upgrade from the SMEG for the home espresso unit, but it needs to breakdown first before senior management will allow a replacement upgrade yet!
The other steps that will improve I can start with now - Wacaco for travel (done!), grinder, funnel etc. I can go ahead with them now for my current set ups 'under the radar' without setting too many new espresso machine alarm bells ;-)
Any recommendations about suitable Grinder and Funnel greatly received!
Thanks!
Not a necessary upgrade imo. Get a VST/precision professional basket to get the most out of your expensive grinder. You just get richer consistent espresso out.
And go ridgeless if your stock one had a ridge. Its SO much better.
Hi Josh, Great video. Thinking of buying a couple of normcores - one for my father who has the technical Profi IV and the eureka specialita and one for myself with the niche. Can you comment as to how the normcore would fit grinding from the specialita into the portafilter? The video seemed to show it being average to OK on the niche.
This should work so long as you're able to drop the portafilter rest down. I'd be more inclined to get the short just in case - rather than the tall for the specialita 🫶
thanks very much for the reply@@AlternativeBrewing
Hey I know this is somewhat of an old video but was actually looking at the Normcore dosing funnel as well. I noticed they have a tall version. Is it necessary to get the tall version or is their plenty of room with this one? For reference I have an Eureka Mignon Zero grinder and usually use the dosing cup instead of grinding directly in the portafilter. Thanks in advance!
I'd go the tall version myself. Plenty of room without it feeling cramped 👌
G'day Josh, in keeping with the normcore suggestion, do you have any preference in which size collar to go for? The short, medium or tall size? Or rather, what did you use throughout this video?
Thanks so much
Go the Tall 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing appreciate the reply, I shall 👌🏻
@@AlternativeBrewingthe one that you showed in the video was the standard size correct? I was looking at the tall one as well
correct. and yes, tall is the way to go 👍 @@johnpetolillo288
The Precision collar although advertised as stainless steel is really aluminum, mine has oxidised badly after it was put through a Cafetto cleaning cycle. All other true stainless steel parts come out as you would expect, nice and shiny clean the Precision collar did not fair well!. it IS cheap so I'm not really fussed however buyer beware.
Normcore leaves grinds all over the lip of my portafilter. Also, it's not tall enough. I want one with a thin inner lip. Any suggestions? 54mm
I dont sorry no. 54mm is a tough one. 58mm I like the Barista Hustle as an option - but 54mm there's very limited option for Dosing rings
I own the precision ring and it’s absolutely awful. The inner collar is very thick and is dreadful for WDT. Do not recommend at all.
54mm; your sage/ breville, della corte, don't forget the nurri hehe.
Nurri ! 🙌
The Normcore 54 mm doesn’t fit in Dalla Corte portafilter😢
I would have loved the Flair 58 funnel in the comparison too, how does it compare?
I've heard it's very similar to the Normcore in it's Magnetic / Angle's high walls. Just flew under the radar for me and I forgot to put it in the review unfortunately 😳
He is right i bought the ring with inner collar first because i couldnt find the one that sits outside and its the worst thing ever i dont understand how the coffee companies even sell something like that because these people shoud know something about making coffee and the thing about those inner collars is they completely murder your shots..dont buy this even if you cannot get the other one..rather wait till you find it
Awesome thanks! Now, what wdt and tampers do you recommend?
Coming soon !🔥 Normcore have a tough collection to beat If I'm being honest: alternativebrewing.com.au/collections/normcore
hello,
I have a question, when we buying the coffee ring, there is writing size for example 51mm.. how we should choose the size? this 51mm is inside of portafilter? or how we should measure?
51mm would be for the la pavoni machines. Most Machines will be either 58mm or 53.4mm portafilters - and is dictated by the size of the grouphead / portafilter.
Hi
Just a quick one, do you guys ship the lagom p64 with plug type G for the UK
We do not sorry, no! only type-I.
It looks like you have a Rancilio portafilter? I purchased the normcore dosing ring and the magnets don’t hold. Is that a known issue?
No, that's bizarre! What brand portafilter have you got?
@@AlternativeBrewingI've found that it's the basket that may cause the issue. The ranchilo basket works fine but another aftermarket basket may not stick as well to the magnets.
@@follow_fraser3081 thanks so much for this info 🙌
@@AlternativeBrewing no worries. Different baskets are made of different materials thus the ferrous properties are different I would imagine. Anyways, you are welcome! Cheers
how do you know what size dosing ring to buy? My group head is 52 mm so which size dosing ring is best?
Depends - 52mm, that's a tricky one! There's 51mm and 53.5mm - you may be able to go with the 53.5mm as there's usually an edge though there's nothing I've come across that fits 52mm exactly sorry! What machine is it?
Motta products?
@1:43 And you can (obviously ;-) _not_ directly tamp through this dosing ring, after using you WDT…
This awful idea of having an inner ring can only come from people who _never_ are testing/using their own design…