This was a very very good, well delivered and informative video! I really like how you were able to highlight the strengths of both Malaysia and Indonesia respectively and respectfully as well, without giving off the nuance that "X is better than Y" etc. Here's to a more prosperous Malaysia and ASEAN region as a whole
Lets talk about Malaysia National Car Proton and Perodua. Also Bucati, the market still stands today, also get market to other countries as well. Tesla choose Malaysia, there is a stories about it, when the others country laugh, sit back and didn't want to help that company, Malaysia volunteer to help by using Malaysia SATS Rocket RAZAK, and it launched well. That gain Elon Musk trust to choose Malaysia and make investment to it, because saving his company from bankcruptcy, Malaysia also known as location very strategic for import and export.
Karena pabrik baterey di Asean hanya di Indo pasti malay dan negara jiran lain pasti mau tdk mau kalo mau bina mobil elektrik so pasti beli ke Indo lah. Itu wajib dan ga bisa diubah sdh takdir nya malay hrs ngemis beli baterey dari indo ha ha ha..
Investing in Malaysia will directly benefit Thailand and Singapore, but investing in Indonesia will increase costs due to logistical problems and uncertain regulations. I would prefer Tesla to open its Gigafactory in Thailand if not in Malaysia.
Malaysia's electricity supply interruption is the lowest and power quality is among the highest in asia. Electronics and manf factory need a stable and firm power quality. Thailand can't beat that
And since Tesla is highly using automation, i guess they wouldn't need so many foreign labour like most of other manufacturing factory in Malaysia. So low skills labour shortage is not an issue for Tesla, and Malaysia is not lacking more skilled and specialised worker.
first u gotta increase the base salary of engineers n technicians with experience in semicon, to get them back from singapore if anything. Globalfoundries, micron, UMC, SSMC all have factories in sg pretty much run on malaysian man n brain power. Including me. Would love to come back n work in M'sia if the salary wasnt so shit
Gue akan Kasih tau aja Perbedaannya. Syarat Tesla Berivenstasi *Indonesia* adalah Bangun Pabrik Mulai dari Bahan Baku Mentah dari Indonesia ,, Pembuatan Produksi ,, Market Pemasaran ,, dan Tenaga Kerja Orang Indonesia . Intinya Indonesia menerapkan Bersifat Produktif Rekontruksi Insklusif Win To Win (Untung sama Untung). Sementara di *Malasia* Tesla masuk ke negaranya tidak menekankan point2 yang dilakukan Pemerintah Indonesia .. Namun di Malasia Hanya mengizinkan kemudahan investasi Bangun Kantor Marketing Pemasaran dan Penjualan saja,, jelas saja Terlihat Ini lebih menguntungkan pihak Tesla. beda pula cara Pemerintahan Indonesia dan Malasia saat Bertemu Pemimpin Tesla. Dikarenakan waktu itu juga *Presiden Indonesia* sudah Bertemu secara tatap muka dengan Elon Musk di Usa Pusat *Nasa Corporation* ada kesepakatan perjanjian investasi besar yang akan dibangun di Indonesia melihat pangsa Pasar market Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan Karena Semua hasil alam di Indonesia ada .. Namum 3 bulan kemudian kabar kepastian Investasi Tesla Gantung diri Menimbang Dahulu dikarenakan kendala *point point ToT (Perjanjian Terapan Investasi Indonesia/Applied Investment Agreement in Indonesia)* dari pihak Indonesia. Beda dengan perdana menteri *Malasia* Hanya tatap muka dengan online saja di komputer. Bagi kami *Bangsa Indonesia* tidak masalah Tesla mau kemana saja Berinvestasi sekalipun di Afrika Bangladesh Myanmar maupun di Gurun Pasir sekalipun,, *tetap Perusahaan ternama ada banyak dan sudah Berivenstasi di Indonesia* seperti *(Chevron Toyota Honda Hyundai Suzuki Wuiling Daihatsu LG Sony Marcedez Benz Exxon dan lainnya)* bahkan perusahaan ternama Yang dulu pernah Berada di Malasia bernama *(Mitshubishi , Isuzu dan Nissan)* Hengkang ke Indonesia pindah Pusat Kantor Resmi dan Bangun Pabrik Disini karena menjanjikan Marketnya dan Politik yang stabil. Namum setelah beberapa bulan kemudian akhir 31 Juli Media Indonesia melaporkan resmi *Tesla menghubungi kembali pemerintah Indonesia mngmis Minta bertelepon dengan Presiden dan Menteri Ekonomi* dulunya tarik kata² mengundurkan tapi sekarang ingin berniat Berinvestasi secara besar-besaran karena melihat pasar Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan. Belum tau kapan kepastian akan segera karena bersifat Rahasia. *Jelas dari sini sudah melihat negara Indonesia dipandang Tinggi Harga dirinya ,, Harga Diri ber-Ideologi. Tidak bisa diatur negara lain maupun apalagi didoktrin pihak manapun mereka yang akan Datang sendiri nantinya memohon* Dari sini Juga Kita Boleh simpulkan Bahwa Pemerintah Indonesia dan jajaran kabinet menteri menteri pemerintahan Indonesia Jauh lebih Bermartabat Berkualitas Punya daya Saing, daya Tarik ,Intelektual , dan Handal di bidangnya baik dalam Ekonomi Pembangunan. Beda di masa Politik Pemerintahan Malasia sekarang ini , maupun dari dulu mudah diperdaya negara lain dan keuntungannya jelas lebih tinggi Negara lain Juga...bahkan sekelas Bangladesh Nepal Rohingya tidak bisa di tanggulangi di Tanah Airnya sendiri.. yah pada akhirnya Investasi dari negara Asing enggan ragu masuk ke Malasia karena Politik yang tidak stabil. Tutup Kata ,, Ini membuktikan jiwa Nasionalisme orang Indonesia sangat tinggi tegas harga diri punya prinsip tidak Boleh didikte negara manapun. Sekian Ulasan dan Argumen Penelitian Saya.😊😊
Gue akan Kasih tau aja Perbedaannya. Syarat Tesla Berivenstasi *Indonesia* adalah Bangun Pabrik Mulai dari Bahan Baku Mentah dari Indonesia ,, Pembuatan Produksi ,, Market Pemasaran ,, dan Tenaga Kerja Orang Indonesia . Intinya Indonesia menerapkan Bersifat Produktif Rekontruksi Inklusif Win To Win (Untung sama Untung). Sementara di *Malasia* Tesla masuk ke negaranya tidak menekankan point² yang dilakukan Pemerintah Indonesia .. Namun di Malasia Hanya mengizinkan kemudahan investasi Bangun Kantor Marketing Pemasaran dan Penjualan saja,, dari sini Terlihat lebih menguntungkan pihak Tesla. beda pula cara Pemerintahan Indonesia dan Malasia saat Bertemu Pemimpin Tesla. waktu itu juga *Presiden Indonesia* sudah Bertemu secara tatap muka dengan Elon Musk di Usa Pusat * Kantor Nasa* ada kesepakatan perjanjian investasi besar yang akan dibangun di Indonesia melihat pangsa Pasar market Indonesia menjanjikan Karena Semua hasil alam di Indonesia ada .. Namum 3 bulan kemudian kabar kepastian Investasi Tesla undur diri Menimbang Dahulu dikarenakan kendala *point point ToT (Perjanjian Terapan Investasi Indonesia/Applied Investment Agreement in Indonesia)* dari pihak Indonesia. Beda dengan perdana menteri *Malasia* Hanya tatap muka dengan online saja di komputer. Bagi kami *Bangsa Indonesia* tidak masalah Tesla mau kemana saja Berinvestasi sekalipun di Afrika Bangladesh Myanmar maupun di Gurun Pasir ,, *tetap Perusahaan ternama ada banyak dan sudah Berivenstasi di Indonesia* seperti *(Chevron Toyota Honda Hyundai Suzuki Wuling Daihatsu LG Sony Marcedez Benz Exxon dan lainnya)* bahkan perusahaan ternama Yang dulu pernah Berada di Malasia bernama *(Mitshubishi , Isuzu dan Nissan)* Hengkang ke Indonesia pindah Pusat Kantor Resmi dan Bangun Pabrik Disini karena menjanjikan Marketnya dan Politik yang stabil. Namum setelah beberapa bulan kemudian akhir 31 Juli Media Indonesia melaporkan resmi *Tesla menghubungi kembali pemerintah Indonesia mgmis ingin bertelepon dengan Presiden dan Menteri Ekonomi* dulunya mengundurkan diri skrng tarik kata dan sekarang ingin berniat Berinvestasi secara besar-besaran karena melihat pasar Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan. Belum tau kapan kepastian akan segera karena bersifat Rahasia. *Jelas dari sini sudah melihat negara Indonesia dipandang Tinggi Harga dirinya ,, Harga Diri ber-Ideologi. Tidak bisa diatur negara lain maupun apalagi didoktrin pihak manapun mereka yang akan Datang sendiri nantinya* Dari sini Juga Kita Boleh simpulkan Bahwa Pemerintah Indonesia dan jajaran kabinet menteri menteri pemerintahan Indonesia Jauh lebih Stabil Berkualitas Punya daya Saing, daya Tarik ,Intelektual , dan Handal di bidangnya baik dalam Ekonomi. Beda di masa Politik Pemerintahan Malasia sekarang ini , maupun dari dulu mudah di prdaya negara lain dan keuntungannya jelas lebih tinggi untuk Negara lain... *bahkan seperti orang Bangladesh Nepal Rohingya* tidak bisa di tangani di negara sendiri.. yah pada akhirnya Investasi dari negara Asing enggan ragu masuk ke Malasia karena Politik yang tidak stabil. Tutup Kata ,, Ini membuktikan jiwa Nasionalisme orang Indonesia sangat tinggi tegas harga diri punya prinsip tidak Boleh didikte negara manapun. Sekian Ulasan dan Argumen Penelitian Saya.😊🙏🏽
@@yangzixiang6605 Singapore is a tiny island, how many factories can they build when land is sparse? How many engineers can Singapore employ? Eventually, the excess engineering graduates will have to choose Malaysia because the demand is low in Singapore
Most of people in Indonesia and Thailand prefer motorcycles instead of cars. Meanwhile, majority Malaysian prefer using cars instead of motorcycles. Even the public transport mostly use cars instead of motorcycles. No wonder Tesla choose their car market in Malaysia.
Moreover, the price of Tesla ain't cheap. It needs to be affordable enough (for the local market) to have high enough demand to consider building a factory there.
Still, Indonesia market is bigger than Malaysia's. They are more than 100million people 5x larger than Malaysia. of course, they prefer motorcycle, but the entire Indonesia also need car especially they now growing from low-income nation to middle high income...
Tesla just open show room n office Malaysia.. Well Indonesia wanted they open factory because we have wht they need battery's nd the same time we want to exchange skill 😊😊😊 we see in few month Tesla will beg as ;;!!!
Regulations in our country, Indonesia, every electric car manufacturer who wants to build an electric car is required to transfer technology and want to work with local companies to make certain parts that makes Tesla think again for Indonesia. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, Tesla is not required to share its technology, even if Malaysia permits battery charging, it's different from Indonesia, battery charging stations can only be owned by local companies
Agreed. I like to w8 15-30min in hot sunny day at 31°+ degrees 🤣🤣 public transport like mrt/lrt only available in main city,not rural area. While bus only works in cold and warm breezy place. Bus not going to be popular in SEA or any hot country it's already been researched bruh. Netherland use bicycle bcos its weather allowed them to. Bicycle popular in India bcos of poverty.
Glad u talked about Dyson, it will be great if u can make a episode itself focus on Dyson. Do take note that Dyson is shy away from Msia and shifting its EMS activities more and more in China, Philippines, Mexico etc. And its R&D investment heavily dumped into Spore and Philippines subsidiary rather than Msia in recent years Last but not least, hope the PN keep their mouths shut and let the current government to steer the country back to the right course after the damage of all these years ❤❤
@@ishaks8152ph gagal memerintah isu beras yg mudah saja tidak selesai,apabila ph gagal modal mereka tidak habis2 sakau,fitnah😢😢😢....kerajaan ph belanjawan paling terbesar dalam sejarah Malaysia yg aneh cukai di naikkan,subsidi di tarik satu persatu,elektrik di naikkan,ini bermaksud pemerintahan ph banyak yg kaki sakau sebab itu belanja banyak tapi poket rakyat di tebuk secara extreme,pemerintahan ph buat hutang dalam tempoh setahun oleh anuar Ibrahim yg paling tinggi dalam sejarah Malaysia,wahai bangsa cina jgn jadi bodoh buka minda tu luas2 apa yg aku tulis semuanya adalah fakta.
Tesla shifting to LFP battery now. A battery that doesn't need Nickel. At least for some of their model/markets. So Indonesian huge Nickel reserve doesn't play big role there for Tesla.
Geographically strategic location... Malaysia is in between The Sea Trade Route, Air Route and Land Trade Route ( Silk Road). Why no more train needed to link Malaysia and Singapore...great product is wasted if it's not in the Global Market. Global Market is wasted if location is not within the 3 Major Global Trade Routes.
Simple facts. 1-- Malaysia's semiconductor manufacturing are world top 10 and Indonesia are far behind. 2- World ease of doing Business Malaysia on top 12th while Indonesia on 73rd.
Tesla was latecomer, indonesian ev market is already dominated by Korean group (LG and Hyundai) vs Chinese group (CATL and geely wuling etc) as pioneer....not to mention chinese companies already dominated nickel supply chain and tesla not using nickel based battery. Ford also came in last year with partnership with vale and zhenjiang. So many competitors already for Tesla.
1. They have setup head office in Malaysia, head office of what? if head office of Malaysia in Malaysia, it’s nothing to be excited 2. They came in to release product here, not to setup manufacturing plants here. In another words, they are coming in to expand their market and keep their demand. Again, nothing to be excited of I am just stating the facts here, do not get over excited, just like you wouldn’t get to excited for Apple to sell in Malaysia. Story will be different if Apple decided to manufacture/ assemble in Malaysia. (Fun fact: some of the Mac line up are actually assembled in Malaysia and shipped to the world)
The moral of the story is that we should not get too excited or complacent about something that we are not sure of. Keep doing the best that you can and be humble. Let success speak for us.
What Indonesia want is Tesla battery manufacture not really the car, Tesla car is expensive compare to Japan/Chinese counterparts and I don't think many Indonesian can afford to buy it, so I think its best interest for Indonesia producing Japan/Chinese car. More affordable and we already producing them means we only need migrating to EV manufacturing.
It is nothing wrong between DS Anwar Ibrahim and Jokowi. Both are very capable leaders in SEA. Tesla selection for Malaysia should be compared with Thailand. Settting up a heavy industry factory needs to relook into the geographical infrastructure. Investing an motor industry on an island is risky unless the island can purchase majority of of the products. Even Singapore purchasing power cannot buy up all automobile produced if invested on the island. I think Elon Musk would have think over, if they were to invest in Indonesia or Philippines, how would they ship their assembled cars on the Singapire, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and other SEA countries?
That is why we reconsider hsr to singapore. Mainland people like us Must link to Laos, Thailand, China. Cost is cheaper than using sea. Faster too. Islands cannot beat transport on land.
@@keangwooichoo6138counter argument: having better logistics between malaysia, thailand and laos will be disadvantageous for malaysia because foreign investors will move their factories to thailand and laos because it's cheaper there than to have factories in malaysia
@finnnoah9796 oh malaysia focus more on high tech manufacturing. Not labour intensive manufacturing. Same with singapore. Also we hv REE rare earth elements critical in semiconductors. So people can hv factories in Laos or thailand. Not hurting us. Example we build aircraft parts for Rolls Royce(same as singapore) We do not want to focus on low salary labour intensive manufacturing. Example we never make textiles like Bangladesh. So workers have more skills and less labour intensive. Another thing is Malaysians can speak/read/write many languages in services like bpo. It is difficult to learn languages as it takes time. But we are used to that. Just different from other countries.
@@keangwooichoo6138 i agree that we have more advanced tech industries here but we also have to keep in mind that other countries around us are catching up and they are catching up quickly and in some ways we are already losing the FDI race. malaysia needs to be like singapore where we aren't threatened by our neighbours opening up factories but i'm not sure malaysians have the skills for those fields. the problem with our country is that we rely too heavily on FDI instead of having companies of our own. i mean hell our neighbours have more startups than us 🥲
For Indonesia, it doesn't matter if Tesla doesn't come to Indonesia. Because Indonesia has raw materials from all components for making electric cars and the technology has already been prepared for software and hardware. And before Tesla entered the global market, Indonesia had been making electric sports cars for about 14 years. ago. Likewise investors who contributed to electric car projects were not the companies yesterday afternoon in the automotive and technology fields 😄
Yeah I mean theres already other competitors of ev manufacturing (chinese, korean, and ford), its a highly competitive market with lower price points, dont forget japanese ICE, Tesla will be luxury items with lower marketshare. In anycase Tesla will still probably invest in battery manufacturing or parts of it since the supply is in Indonesia.
Sure or not it doesn't matter .. That Luhut guy once again go running to meet Elon Musk in China. The trouble is that Indonesia was over confident of getting Tesla to invest in their country due to just their huge Nickel deposit. They have go round announcing to their ppl that it's a sure thing Tesla will invest, but was disappointed nation wide big time to find out that Tesla has decided to open its office in Malaysia instead, which was quite an embarrassment to their administration. KOYAK ho..
@@TreiHutchinson Well not really an embarassment because he never did exactly say precisely what the investment with Elon. Because there are many potential investment space x spaceport in Biak, battery component manufacturing, nickel import(this is already done), starlink internet (this is done but not to end consumen), solar panel manufacturing, etc. Indonesia is actively courting Elon and Tesla, but Indonesia also already have more leverage because the other three groups of tesla rivals already invested in Indonesia. They want tesla to work with IBC (Indonesia Battery Corporation) for Rnd and transfer of technology, it seems tesla doesn't want to because of their calculation. Its not a big deal as the other already work with IBC, recently also possible partnership with WA on Lithium. Indonesia will become part of the battery supply chain with or without Tesla.
Nickel is just a passing phase as battery tech improves, the need for nickel may diminish. Eg. Sodium + lithium or Sodium alone batteries uses no nickel or cobalt at all.
Why do so many Malaysians comment negatively? no one is jealous of Malaysia, actually you have shown yourself so far Malaysia has always been jealous of Indonesia, change your mindset, don't be racist and don't be overly arrogant, this will embarrass your own country
to be fair, if you're active on twitter, a lot of indonesians were angry at jokowi and luhut for "losing" to malaysia that luhut had to defend himself "in malaysia, it's only a showroom and sales office".
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Indonesia hanya ingin TESLA ingin membangun giga factory nya bukan untuk hanya kantor sales penjualan Tesla, jika Tesla tidak mau BYD sudah melirik Indonesia bahkan Wuling, Hyunday sudah membangun pabriknya, jadi negara kami punya harga tawar yang tinggi karena memiliki semua sumber daya ada di negara kami Jika Malaysia bangga menjadi kantor penjualan TESLA bagi kami itu tidak kami inginkan 😂
Tesla can directly sell their car in Malaysia which does not need middle man. That is the reason tesla so cheap here. In Indonesia its Impossible since their government always need local partnership. Tesla shifting to LFP batteries now on some of there model. A battery that doesn't contain Nickel.
EM's Tesla EV investments in Malaysia and Indonesia is part of US strategic economic venture into SEA. EM cannot act alone. It's best for both Malaysia, Indonesia and Tesla to solve this matter amicably. At this stage, I think Indonesia is uncomfortable with Malaysia luring away Tesla from them. Remember that President Jokowi first met Elon Musk at his HQ in Austin, Texas on 15 May 2022 to discuss about EV and SpaceX investment in Indonesia.
That is indonesia's problem, not ours. And so by banning nickel export they think they could force people to setup factories there? Immature thinking. There are so many types of batteries that are developed. Once Australia's Darwin taiwan LFP cathode factory is ready, we are all going to get those cathodes for sure. Furthermore, nickel in Indonesia is class 2. In China it is class 1. It show how illiterate they are about materials and technology.
@@keangwooichoo6138 "could force people to set up factories there?".. in fact, YES😏 it's not immature thinking... Several companies have joined forces in developing EV battery in Indonesia, and several companies are building their EV factories in Indonesia... Tesla is not the only one EV company in the world, but i don't understand why people terlalu tergila2 dengan Tesla or Elon ya? Because he's so famous??😅 You said Indonesian nickel is class 2, that's not quite right, bcs Indonesia also produces class 1 nickel and the government is building several new smelters to increase production of this type of nickel, the government even targets more than 50 smelters to be built by 2024. And LFP is just one of the options, no worries... the ones to worry about are countries that are heavily dependent on oil... When the indo government banned the export of raw nickel ore and only allowed exports of finished or semi-finished nickel products, the value of nickel exports has increased 11-fold in 3 years, from USD 3 billion to USD 33 billion, especially when the EV battery and EV Auto industries have been operational, it will definitely be even more profitable, so I don't think the government has made the wrong policy... Dan kau lihat lah, negara2 yang sangat maju sekarang mostly adalah negara2 yang tak cukup kaya dengan natural resources, tapi kita termasuk your country Malaysia kenapa tak boleh semaju mereka? Padahal kita ada natural resources yang lagi kaya dari mereka?? Look at Singapore, tak ada natural resources, then kita jual our raw products to them, and they make them into finished products and then sell with higher prices, dan mereka akhirnya maju dan lebih kaya raya dari kita.. kenapa kita tak buat sendiri di negara kita? Bodoh tak??
30 tahun lalu Indonesia (1995) sudah bisa bikin pesawat fly by wire, tapi slalu di ganggu barat.. Malaysia baru bikin semi konduktor mobil aja udah koar koar merasa paling maju dari Indonesia.. I Love Indonesia.. ❤🇮🇩
EM shift to Malaysia. Why this happen. Becos Indonesia want their share in Tesla Indonesia. They also want a ToT programme for Indonesia. That why EM distant away from Indonesia
I really like that it is about prospering thy neighbour rather than this country is better than the other. It is about synergistic and symbiotic relations rather than parasitic.
It is Ltihium Ion now.. bladeless tech from BYD. Tesla started to buy battery cells from BYD. Lithium-ion (or Li-ion) batteries are smaller in size, require low maintenance and are environmentally safer than Nickel-cadmium (also called NiCad, NiCd or Ni-Cd) batteries. Im not really into BYD but yeah Tesla is investing in Malaysia better than them.
Well GWM and Neta Auto just enter Indonesia market and set up factory in Indonesia. The main issue with Tesla in Indonesia is the price is too high for Indonesia market and logistically not economical to set up factory in Indonesia to serve overseas market. lower cost EV player like Neta and GWM would fit better in Indonesia market. BTW both company will start production next year not just infrastructure 😂 Indonesia mainly target Tesla battery factory not the auto factory
I think Malaysia didn't "get" Tesla. Malaysia just opened the way for Tesla to sell direct in Malaysia, as well as service centers and superchargers. Jokowi mission was I believe to get Tesla to set up a factory in Indonesia. Malaysia will truly win if Tesla decides to open a factory in Malaysia. Be it auto or storage (battery factory)
True. Setting up factory will create more jobs rather than becoming the distributor in the pipeline. Plus Indonesia just launched Space X rocket last few months . They have the upper hand.
@@frazierkok5795 Lol they didn't, he got it the complete opposite. Indonesian government commissioned SpaceX to launch their new satellite, and it was launched from their SpaceX launch site in the US. SpaceX launched Indonesian satellite, not the other way around.
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no one is jealous of Malaysia, in fact you have shown yourself all this time Malaysia has always been jealous of Indonesia, change your mindset, don't be racist and don't be over proud, this will embarrass your own country
Malaysia have far more better infrastructure compared to Indonesia. Malaysia have good roads and highways network and have land connectivity to Singapore. Malaysia also have more skill workers.
Could be because Malaysia is close to Singapore. Even though the plant is in Malaysia, Tesla may want to have its head office in Singapore and housed their key executives there.
Hello bro. After 2.5 hrs meeting with Luhut of Indonesia, Elon Musk told Luhut that Tesla has overcapacity in maqnufacturing of 1.3 million so have stop Mexico gigafactory for time neing and nit investing to set up new manufacturing anywhere for few years
As a malaysian, I think Elon Musk would prefer Indonesia more than the little Malaysia due to conducive factors such as long-term readily market, positive environment and resources, and huge workforce in the modern indonesia. On the other side, Malaysia suffers from on-going corruption, including corruption in political injustice, unstable political rivalry between the Chinese and Pribumi Malays fighting to control the country. Malaysia also suffers from government protection in the local automotive industry, namely proton and perodua. Also, heavily dependent on foreign workers. If I was the owner of Tesla, personally I would invest in Indonesia, or my 2nd preference would be in Thailand or otherwise, I would stay and expand in China.
Are you being misled by the Govt? Since when did Tesla mentioned that they will set up manufacturing in Malaysia? Since when did Tesla said that its Head Office is a HQ for the Asia-Pacific or ASEAN region? If you study properly, the Head Office is meant to be serve all the states of Malaysia in the sales of Tesla. Since when is selling Tesla EV in Malaysia is considered an investment in pure sense? If so Hyundai and Toyota selling their vehicles are likewise an investment. Malaysia lured Tesla by giving them concession into the satellite broadband market which is presently done by local company.
wait and see.. bruh who is using MEASAT though? cost? speed? tech? think of all that. That is why rural area really need Starlink access. If you want local do that then we should have our own starlink but what is the cost then? Do we have manpower? intel?
According to me, actually i really dont mind as an indonesian telsa goes to open their factory else where, because Otherwise our people will be working for foreign company, of course they'll say indonesia is lacking of this and that, and that's normal. I personally prefer those foreign companies investing in indonesia that would like to share their technology as we say transfer of technology. So maybe someday the indonesian would be more skillful and maybe cleverer.
I read briefly these few weeks back in socials that MY will b the brand's MANUFACTURING hub for SEA? So a factory after all instead of just showroom & HQ?😳 If this is true... yeay!!!!!!🥳
H7undai and GM Wuling already constructing their EWV plant in Indonesia. BYD is in negotiation with Indonesia to do the same. CATL and LG already invested $ 12 billion to manufacture EV battery in Indonesia. So what rubbish you are talking about?
🔱. Malaysian Be Advised that TESLA is just another Player who is new to the Game. Musk Isa name which looks for Attention pretanding not to. It's a Skill which WEST is good for.💯. Stay Positive.🇲🇾
Tesla belum cukup mampu mengangkat ekonomi Malaysia ,tanpa Tesla Indonesia tetap berjaya dengan mobil listrik dan baterai listrik ,nikel ,bauxit ,timah dan Enerji cukup tersedia di Indonesia .
Is Musk going to build factory or set up showroom in Malaysia? Knowning Elon, its probably going to take 5 years just for blueprint (take a look at planned factories in Mexico and India, nothing to see there) as for Indonesia, Tesla was just a cherry on top of the EV cake as we've have Hyundai and Wulling factories here and Geylee coming soon. Still Congrats to Malaysia though.
For heavens sake. Tesla only open a regional office. If they open a factory, it's will probably be in our neighbouring countries as we never honoured asean free trade deal with regards to motor vehicles due to proton and perodua protectionist policy
apples and oranges though, malaysia got regional headquarter but indonesia wanted a battery factory, possibly followed by EV giga. there's still hope since musk will only make the announcement late this year. candidates are: india, south korea, next china giga, and indonesia.
Tesla think twice before enter Indonesia market, that's ranking of corruption 110th in the world and 5th in South East Asia, although Indonesia got the big reserve nickel but..if corruption still haunted investers..no wonder
Elon Musks decission making skills especially when it comes to corporate issues is an open question. One might argue Malaysia has a work force that has basic experience manufacturing vehicles but we never managed to become skill full at it. Even European and Japanese havent managed to fix the quality issues that are still common on locally assembled units.
Power production in Indonesia is still insufficient for current local consumption. Looting of unattended charging station are a big risk. Many more issues that Indonesia needs to address to meet Tesla's expectation.
Thanks for the information , Collaboration is the key to prosperity and win win situation for both countries, it's not worth the effort if LUHUT PANJATAITAN went to face EM if GOOD GOVERNANCE is not visible and EM is fully aware what's going on in that country. Raw materials of abundance are worth nothing if the environmental prospective are ignored plus the feasible infrastructure to make it happen doesn't exist.
it's tesla that lost a lot by choosing malaysia. indonesia is the biggest nickel producer and tesla wants to dictate how the cooperation going, it should be a win-win. now CATL as the biggest battery producer has already agree to invest in indonesia.
No need to compare.. 🇲🇾 & 🇮🇩 are brotherhood.. either 🇮🇩 or 🇲🇾 get tesla.. It's a win win situation.. In future there will be a bridge between this 2 country 👍🏻
Good evening we Malaysians are very slow i whan my Malaysians business leaders the Chinese melay Indian punjabi sarawakian sabahrian people come ferun to top awere country you must understand about Indonesia is coming front we Malaysians have prof all this country they are Indonesia Vietnam Cambodia Thailand Sri Lanka we rayat Malaysia whan to see in five years to come we must be tigers of Asia from uncle West Malaysia horizons kl
That is the reason why toyota is not so interested in developing it's own ev cars but have it's hydrogen car technology rapidly developing. Toyota is the world no.1 car producer now overtaking vw.
@@keangwooichoo6138 New technology developed by Porsche with partners. Hydrogen derived from air and water using clean plant technologies that are zero emission and approved by the EU regulators, which are the strictest in the world. Tested in real life situation and passed the test. Unfortunately will only be cheap if all countries adopt it, same as EV technology at the beginning.
@@ishaks8152 Toyota, VW, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes all have hydrogen based vehicles. For the very first time, the Japanese and Germans are working together to make this the future of clean emission technology for vehicles.
Hope gov invest for cargo hyperloop build by tesla from kuantan port to port klang , own by Malaysian goverment and service by tesla, so we can eclipse Singapore and all malacca straits transhipment. And we can make tesla to stay and bring more technology and factory here.
What Malaysia own components caaan we supplty to Tesla? Shanghai Gigafactory all components from China vendors. Tesla Model Y al in CBU form when imported into Malaysia.
Battery and car raw material come from Indonesia. Indonesia has power to politize the EV Industry. I believe Indonesia will force the manufacturer to build in Indonesia, I am not sure EV Industry will sustained while still manufactured outside Indonesia. Well try find raw material from other country
After 350 years of Indonesia being colonized by Western countries, they realized that the potential of their raw materials only benefited the colonialists and Indonesia's materials was only exploited with little profit. Luhut was smart to say that we make the rules, not you. from there EM retreats
Saya ingatkan sekali lagi ya pabrik batterey dah sangat jelas yg bina kan indonesia dan satu satunya di Asean. Sekarang aku mau tanya kalo suatu saat Proton mau bina mobil elektric battereynya mau beli dari manan kalo tdk dari indonesia. Kalo seandainya beli dari Cina mahal di transport nya sehingga harga pasti tdk bisa kompetitif dg produk mobil dari negara lain. Coba di komen ya, Malay tdk akan berkutik dan tekuk lutut beli batterey dari indo pastinya krn hanya indo yg bina ha ha ha ....
@@imjuzsayin..5017battery factory dah ground breaking kat Kulim Kedah early this week. Tapi bukan under nama TESLA... so kita tunggu aje Elon nak buka apa sebenarnya..
During a bear market, the headlines will focus on negative news, whether it's declining economic growth, geopolitical upheaval, cultural and legal turmoil, or some combination of all three. I listened to a podcast of someone that grew his reserve from $120k to almost $460k during this Red season, can you share tips on how to make such aggressive proceeds in short periods?
You would be better off keeping away from equities for a bit or, even better, seeking advice from an expert given the current market conditions and everything that is at risk with the current economy.
This was a very very good, well delivered and informative video! I really like how you were able to highlight the strengths of both Malaysia and Indonesia respectively and respectfully as well, without giving off the nuance that "X is better than Y" etc. Here's to a more prosperous Malaysia and ASEAN region as a whole
Lets talk about Malaysia National Car Proton and Perodua. Also Bucati, the market still stands today, also get market to other countries as well. Tesla choose Malaysia, there is a stories about it, when the others country laugh, sit back and didn't want to help that company, Malaysia volunteer to help by using Malaysia SATS Rocket RAZAK, and it launched well. That gain Elon Musk trust to choose Malaysia and make investment to it, because saving his company from bankcruptcy, Malaysia also known as location very strategic for import and export.
Karena pabrik baterey di Asean hanya di Indo pasti malay dan negara jiran lain pasti mau tdk mau kalo mau bina mobil elektrik so pasti beli ke Indo lah. Itu wajib dan ga bisa diubah sdh takdir nya malay hrs ngemis beli baterey dari indo ha ha ha..
@@dadiyonosamiran8024 Indonesia kekal tukang buat bakso sja. Itu yg kamu pakar
@@mohdkamilmokhtar8479jgn la hina bro org...ape la
@@mohdkamilmokhtar8479 Hahaha 😂
@@mohdkamilmokhtar8479mobil Tesla Malaysia tidak akan laku di indo..wkwk
Congrats to Malaysia. Hope it can somehow bring down the cost for Tesla in Singapore too.
I doubt it, coz pap will find a way to up cost of ownership even if it cost 30k usd
Not possible. Hahaha. Singaporean will always pay triple
singaporeans can just rent tesla and drive in msia. longer drive. don't even have to argue at petrol station 😅
@@moiramaine8986 are tesla rented out now? I never heard about it.
Aiyoo why so expensive there? I thought 100% tax for foreign vehicles in Malaysia was bad.
Investing in Malaysia will directly benefit Thailand and Singapore, but investing in Indonesia will increase costs due to logistical problems and uncertain regulations. I would prefer Tesla to open its Gigafactory in Thailand if not in Malaysia.
Sadly, Thailand now at unstable military lead goverment.
Malaysia's electricity supply interruption is the lowest and power quality is among the highest in asia. Electronics and manf factory need a stable and firm power quality. Thailand can't beat that
That's why Indonesia is building massive infrastructure and changing investment regulations, one of President Jokowi's main focuses
And since Tesla is highly using automation, i guess they wouldn't need so many foreign labour like most of other manufacturing factory in Malaysia. So low skills labour shortage is not an issue for Tesla, and Malaysia is not lacking more skilled and specialised worker.
Keep dreaming bro... keep dreaming hahaha
i hope malaysia will be top 5 semiconductor producer
i believe that semiconductor market will be huge in future, the next oil.
first u gotta increase the base salary of engineers n technicians with experience in semicon, to get them back from singapore if anything. Globalfoundries, micron, UMC, SSMC all have factories in sg pretty much run on malaysian man n brain power.
Including me. Would love to come back n work in M'sia if the salary wasnt so shit
Now just no 7
Gue akan Kasih tau aja Perbedaannya.
Syarat Tesla Berivenstasi *Indonesia* adalah Bangun Pabrik Mulai dari Bahan Baku Mentah dari Indonesia ,, Pembuatan Produksi ,, Market Pemasaran ,, dan Tenaga Kerja Orang Indonesia . Intinya Indonesia menerapkan Bersifat Produktif Rekontruksi Insklusif Win To Win (Untung sama Untung).
Sementara di *Malasia* Tesla masuk ke negaranya tidak menekankan point2 yang dilakukan Pemerintah Indonesia .. Namun di Malasia Hanya mengizinkan kemudahan investasi Bangun Kantor Marketing Pemasaran dan Penjualan saja,, jelas saja Terlihat Ini lebih menguntungkan pihak Tesla.
beda pula cara Pemerintahan Indonesia dan Malasia saat Bertemu Pemimpin Tesla.
Dikarenakan waktu itu juga *Presiden Indonesia* sudah Bertemu secara tatap muka dengan Elon Musk di Usa Pusat *Nasa Corporation* ada kesepakatan perjanjian investasi besar yang akan dibangun di Indonesia melihat pangsa Pasar market Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan Karena Semua hasil alam di Indonesia ada .. Namum 3 bulan kemudian kabar kepastian Investasi Tesla Gantung diri Menimbang Dahulu dikarenakan kendala *point point ToT (Perjanjian Terapan Investasi Indonesia/Applied Investment Agreement in Indonesia)* dari pihak Indonesia.
Beda dengan perdana menteri *Malasia* Hanya tatap muka dengan online saja di komputer.
Bagi kami *Bangsa Indonesia* tidak masalah Tesla mau kemana saja Berinvestasi sekalipun di Afrika Bangladesh Myanmar maupun di Gurun Pasir sekalipun,,
*tetap Perusahaan ternama ada banyak dan sudah Berivenstasi di Indonesia* seperti *(Chevron Toyota Honda Hyundai Suzuki Wuiling Daihatsu LG Sony Marcedez Benz Exxon dan lainnya)*
bahkan perusahaan ternama Yang dulu pernah Berada di Malasia bernama *(Mitshubishi , Isuzu dan Nissan)* Hengkang ke Indonesia pindah Pusat Kantor Resmi dan Bangun Pabrik Disini karena menjanjikan Marketnya dan Politik yang stabil.
Namum setelah beberapa bulan kemudian akhir 31 Juli Media Indonesia melaporkan resmi *Tesla menghubungi kembali pemerintah Indonesia mngmis Minta bertelepon dengan Presiden dan Menteri Ekonomi* dulunya tarik kata² mengundurkan tapi sekarang ingin berniat Berinvestasi secara besar-besaran karena melihat pasar Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan.
Belum tau kapan kepastian akan segera karena bersifat Rahasia.
*Jelas dari sini sudah melihat negara Indonesia dipandang Tinggi Harga dirinya ,, Harga Diri ber-Ideologi. Tidak bisa diatur negara lain maupun apalagi didoktrin pihak manapun mereka yang akan Datang sendiri nantinya memohon*
Dari sini Juga Kita Boleh simpulkan Bahwa Pemerintah Indonesia dan jajaran kabinet menteri menteri pemerintahan Indonesia Jauh lebih Bermartabat Berkualitas Punya daya Saing, daya Tarik ,Intelektual , dan Handal di bidangnya baik dalam Ekonomi Pembangunan.
Beda di masa Politik Pemerintahan Malasia sekarang ini , maupun dari dulu mudah diperdaya negara lain dan keuntungannya jelas lebih tinggi Negara lain Juga...bahkan sekelas Bangladesh Nepal Rohingya tidak bisa di tanggulangi di Tanah Airnya sendiri.. yah pada akhirnya Investasi dari negara Asing enggan ragu masuk ke Malasia karena Politik yang tidak stabil.
Tutup Kata ,, Ini membuktikan jiwa Nasionalisme orang Indonesia sangat tinggi tegas harga diri punya prinsip tidak Boleh didikte negara manapun.
Sekian Ulasan dan Argumen Penelitian Saya.😊😊
Gue akan Kasih tau aja Perbedaannya.
Syarat Tesla Berivenstasi *Indonesia* adalah Bangun Pabrik Mulai dari Bahan Baku Mentah dari Indonesia ,, Pembuatan Produksi ,, Market Pemasaran ,, dan Tenaga Kerja Orang Indonesia . Intinya Indonesia menerapkan Bersifat Produktif Rekontruksi Inklusif Win To Win (Untung sama Untung).
Sementara di *Malasia* Tesla masuk ke negaranya tidak menekankan point² yang dilakukan Pemerintah Indonesia .. Namun di Malasia Hanya mengizinkan kemudahan investasi Bangun Kantor Marketing Pemasaran dan Penjualan saja,, dari sini Terlihat lebih menguntungkan pihak Tesla.
beda pula cara Pemerintahan Indonesia dan Malasia saat Bertemu Pemimpin Tesla.
waktu itu juga *Presiden Indonesia* sudah Bertemu secara tatap muka dengan Elon Musk di Usa Pusat * Kantor Nasa* ada kesepakatan perjanjian investasi besar yang akan dibangun di Indonesia melihat pangsa Pasar market Indonesia menjanjikan Karena Semua hasil alam di Indonesia ada .. Namum 3 bulan kemudian kabar kepastian Investasi Tesla undur diri Menimbang Dahulu dikarenakan kendala *point point ToT (Perjanjian Terapan Investasi Indonesia/Applied Investment Agreement in Indonesia)* dari pihak Indonesia.
Beda dengan perdana menteri *Malasia* Hanya tatap muka dengan online saja di komputer.
Bagi kami *Bangsa Indonesia* tidak masalah Tesla mau kemana saja Berinvestasi sekalipun di Afrika Bangladesh Myanmar maupun di Gurun Pasir ,,
*tetap Perusahaan ternama ada banyak dan sudah Berivenstasi di Indonesia* seperti *(Chevron Toyota Honda Hyundai Suzuki Wuling Daihatsu LG Sony Marcedez Benz Exxon dan lainnya)*
bahkan perusahaan ternama Yang dulu pernah Berada di Malasia bernama *(Mitshubishi , Isuzu dan Nissan)* Hengkang ke Indonesia pindah Pusat Kantor Resmi dan Bangun Pabrik Disini karena menjanjikan Marketnya dan Politik yang stabil.
Namum setelah beberapa bulan kemudian akhir 31 Juli Media Indonesia melaporkan resmi *Tesla menghubungi kembali pemerintah Indonesia mgmis ingin bertelepon dengan Presiden dan Menteri Ekonomi* dulunya mengundurkan diri skrng tarik kata dan sekarang ingin berniat Berinvestasi secara besar-besaran karena melihat pasar Indonesia sungguh menjanjikan.
Belum tau kapan kepastian akan segera karena bersifat Rahasia.
*Jelas dari sini sudah melihat negara Indonesia dipandang Tinggi Harga dirinya ,, Harga Diri ber-Ideologi. Tidak bisa diatur negara lain maupun apalagi didoktrin pihak manapun mereka yang akan Datang sendiri nantinya*
Dari sini Juga Kita Boleh simpulkan Bahwa Pemerintah Indonesia dan jajaran kabinet menteri menteri pemerintahan Indonesia Jauh lebih Stabil Berkualitas Punya daya Saing, daya Tarik ,Intelektual , dan Handal di bidangnya baik dalam Ekonomi.
Beda di masa Politik Pemerintahan Malasia sekarang ini , maupun dari dulu mudah di prdaya negara lain dan keuntungannya jelas lebih tinggi untuk Negara lain... *bahkan seperti orang Bangladesh Nepal Rohingya* tidak bisa di tangani di negara sendiri.. yah pada akhirnya Investasi dari negara Asing enggan ragu masuk ke Malasia karena Politik yang tidak stabil.
Tutup Kata ,, Ini membuktikan jiwa Nasionalisme orang Indonesia sangat tinggi tegas harga diri punya prinsip tidak Boleh didikte negara manapun.
Sekian Ulasan dan Argumen Penelitian Saya.😊🙏🏽
@@yangzixiang6605 Singapore is a tiny island, how many factories can they build when land is sparse? How many engineers can Singapore employ? Eventually, the excess engineering graduates will have to choose Malaysia because the demand is low in Singapore
Most of people in Indonesia and Thailand prefer motorcycles instead of cars. Meanwhile, majority Malaysian prefer using cars instead of motorcycles. Even the public transport mostly use cars instead of motorcycles. No wonder Tesla choose their car market in Malaysia.
Moreover, the price of Tesla ain't cheap. It needs to be affordable enough (for the local market) to have high enough demand to consider building a factory there.
Tapi ,pengguna mobil di Indonesia lebih banyak bro. Jumlah mobil di Indonesia juga jauh lebih banyak. So jangan lupa tentang jumlah manusia 😅
Still, Indonesia market is bigger than Malaysia's. They are more than 100million people 5x larger than Malaysia. of course, they prefer motorcycle, but the entire Indonesia also need car especially they now growing from low-income nation to middle high income...
Tesla just open show room n office Malaysia.. Well Indonesia wanted they open factory because we have wht they need battery's nd the same time we want to exchange skill 😊😊😊 we see in few month Tesla will beg as ;;!!!
@@aningcan8214 that not confirm yet from Tesla.. you need to fix your facilities first..
Regulations in our country, Indonesia, every electric car manufacturer who wants to build an electric car is required to transfer technology and want to work with local companies to make certain parts that makes Tesla think again for Indonesia.
Meanwhile, in Malaysia, Tesla is not required to share its technology, even if Malaysia permits battery charging, it's different from Indonesia, battery charging stations can only be owned by local companies
Public transport better
Agree
Agreed. I like to w8 15-30min in hot sunny day at 31°+ degrees 🤣🤣 public transport like mrt/lrt only available in main city,not rural area. While bus only works in cold and warm breezy place. Bus not going to be popular in SEA or any hot country it's already been researched bruh. Netherland use bicycle bcos its weather allowed them to. Bicycle popular in India bcos of poverty.
Public transport cost gomen much more.
Produce car doesn't mean it's for domestic purchase. Japan has been producing car years and yet they have high usage of public transport
Cannot. Cost too much. It will eat into their “payout”
Glad u talked about Dyson, it will be great if u can make a episode itself focus on Dyson.
Do take note that Dyson is shy away from Msia and shifting its EMS activities more and more in China, Philippines, Mexico etc. And its R&D investment heavily dumped into Spore and Philippines subsidiary rather than Msia in recent years
Last but not least, hope the PN keep their mouths shut and let the current government to steer the country back to the right course after the damage of all these years ❤❤
The opposition is trying very hard to bring down the government which is also doing hard to put us back on track.
Dyson starting to move out from Singapore thus malaysia ady .. . Fled to Philippines... Fully
@@adamfong8132 shame
@@ishaks8152 民主
@@ishaks8152ph gagal memerintah isu beras yg mudah saja tidak selesai,apabila ph gagal modal mereka tidak habis2 sakau,fitnah😢😢😢....kerajaan ph belanjawan paling terbesar dalam sejarah Malaysia yg aneh cukai di naikkan,subsidi di tarik satu persatu,elektrik di naikkan,ini bermaksud pemerintahan ph banyak yg kaki sakau sebab itu belanja banyak tapi poket rakyat di tebuk secara extreme,pemerintahan ph buat hutang dalam tempoh setahun oleh anuar Ibrahim yg paling tinggi dalam sejarah Malaysia,wahai bangsa cina jgn jadi bodoh buka minda tu luas2 apa yg aku tulis semuanya adalah fakta.
Anwar government is not perfect, but this version is the best so far.
Tesla shifting to LFP battery now. A battery that doesn't need Nickel. At least for some of their model/markets. So Indonesian huge Nickel reserve doesn't play big role there for Tesla.
Like that BYD seems to be leading on the battery supply chain front
@@darrenkwok84 yes probably. Their blade battery is good. Safe.
China now enhancing their natrium based battery technology.
Exactly. L - lithium, F - iron, P - phosphate.
Some even used sodium ion batteries
BYD is taking over Tesla in Sales. Healthy competition is good in long run. Hope ASEAN will be prosperous.
as an Malaysian, i don't give a shit about BYD
BYD banyak kes terbakar dekat Mainland...
BYD has also agreed to invest in Malaysia. Geely also investing USD 10 billion in Malaysia
BYD sales number are calculated from manufacturer to distributor n sales centre. China never gave up on cheating on everything😂
Have you seen the youtube video showing BYD produced BEVs they cannot find buyers and ending up on grave hard?
Geographically strategic location... Malaysia is in between The Sea Trade Route, Air Route and Land Trade Route ( Silk Road). Why no more train needed to link Malaysia and Singapore...great product is wasted if it's not in the Global Market. Global Market is wasted if location is not within the 3 Major Global Trade Routes.
Simple facts.
1-- Malaysia's semiconductor manufacturing are world top 10 and Indonesia are far behind.
2- World ease of doing Business Malaysia on top 12th while Indonesia on 73rd.
Semi conductors is no 7.
Yes. doing business in indonesia is highly risk
Tesla was latecomer, indonesian ev market is already dominated by Korean group (LG and Hyundai) vs Chinese group (CATL and geely wuling etc) as pioneer....not to mention chinese companies already dominated nickel supply chain and tesla not using nickel based battery. Ford also came in last year with partnership with vale and zhenjiang. So many competitors already for Tesla.
1. They have setup head office in Malaysia, head office of what? if head office of Malaysia in Malaysia, it’s nothing to be excited
2. They came in to release product here, not to setup manufacturing plants here. In another words, they are coming in to expand their market and keep their demand. Again, nothing to be excited of
I am just stating the facts here, do not get over excited, just like you wouldn’t get to excited for Apple to sell in Malaysia. Story will be different if Apple decided to manufacture/ assemble in Malaysia. (Fun fact: some of the Mac line up are actually assembled in Malaysia and shipped to the world)
Exactly! Putting aside their huuuge tax incentives they’re getting, this is just like any car company opening up their own showroom.
Tesla getting national status ... Hehehh
The moral of the story is that we should not get too excited or complacent about something that we are not sure of. Keep doing the best that you can and be humble. Let success speak for us.
What Indonesia want is Tesla battery manufacture not really the car, Tesla car is expensive compare to Japan/Chinese counterparts and I don't think many Indonesian can afford to buy it, so I think its best interest for Indonesia producing Japan/Chinese car. More affordable and we already producing them means we only need migrating to EV manufacturing.
It is nothing wrong between DS Anwar Ibrahim and Jokowi. Both are very capable leaders in SEA. Tesla selection for Malaysia should be compared with Thailand. Settting up a heavy industry factory needs to relook into the geographical infrastructure. Investing an motor industry on an island is risky unless the island can purchase majority of of the products. Even Singapore purchasing power cannot buy up all automobile produced if invested on the island. I think Elon Musk would have think over, if they were to invest in Indonesia or Philippines, how would they ship their assembled cars on the Singapire, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and other SEA countries?
By freight ship I suppose... most of the cars sold in Malaysia also ship using ship
That is why we reconsider hsr to singapore. Mainland people like us Must link to Laos, Thailand, China. Cost is cheaper than using sea. Faster too. Islands cannot beat transport on land.
@@keangwooichoo6138counter argument: having better logistics between malaysia, thailand and laos will be disadvantageous for malaysia because foreign investors will move their factories to thailand and laos because it's cheaper there than to have factories in malaysia
@finnnoah9796 oh malaysia focus more on high tech manufacturing. Not labour intensive manufacturing. Same with singapore. Also we hv REE rare earth elements critical in semiconductors. So people can hv factories in Laos or thailand. Not hurting us. Example we build aircraft parts for Rolls Royce(same as singapore) We do not want to focus on low salary labour intensive manufacturing. Example we never make textiles like Bangladesh. So workers have more skills and less labour intensive. Another thing is Malaysians can speak/read/write many languages in services like bpo. It is difficult to learn languages as it takes time. But we are used to that. Just different from other countries.
@@keangwooichoo6138 i agree that we have more advanced tech industries here but we also have to keep in mind that other countries around us are catching up and they are catching up quickly and in some ways we are already losing the FDI race. malaysia needs to be like singapore where we aren't threatened by our neighbours opening up factories but i'm not sure malaysians have the skills for those fields. the problem with our country is that we rely too heavily on FDI instead of having companies of our own. i mean hell our neighbours have more startups than us 🥲
For Indonesia, it doesn't matter if Tesla doesn't come to Indonesia. Because Indonesia has raw materials from all components for making electric cars and the technology has already been prepared for software and hardware. And before Tesla entered the global market, Indonesia had been making electric sports cars for about 14 years. ago. Likewise investors who contributed to electric car projects were not the companies yesterday afternoon in the automotive and technology fields 😄
Yeah I mean theres already other competitors of ev manufacturing (chinese, korean, and ford), its a highly competitive market with lower price points, dont forget japanese ICE, Tesla will be luxury items with lower marketshare. In anycase Tesla will still probably invest in battery manufacturing or parts of it since the supply is in Indonesia.
Sure or not it doesn't matter .. That Luhut guy once again go running to meet Elon Musk in China. The trouble is that Indonesia was over confident of getting Tesla to invest in their country due to just their huge Nickel deposit. They have go round announcing to their ppl that it's a sure thing Tesla will invest, but was disappointed nation wide big time to find out that Tesla has decided to open its office in Malaysia instead, which was quite an embarrassment to their administration. KOYAK ho..
@@TreiHutchinson Well not really an embarassment because he never did exactly say precisely what the investment with Elon. Because there are many potential investment space x spaceport in Biak, battery component manufacturing, nickel import(this is already done), starlink internet (this is done but not to end consumen), solar panel manufacturing, etc. Indonesia is actively courting Elon and Tesla, but Indonesia also already have more leverage because the other three groups of tesla rivals already invested in Indonesia.
They want tesla to work with IBC (Indonesia Battery Corporation) for Rnd and transfer of technology, it seems tesla doesn't want to because of their calculation. Its not a big deal as the other already work with IBC, recently also possible partnership with WA on Lithium. Indonesia will become part of the battery supply chain with or without Tesla.
Nickel is just a passing phase as battery tech improves, the need for nickel may diminish. Eg. Sodium + lithium or Sodium alone batteries uses no nickel or cobalt at all.
Solid state batteries too
Why do so many Malaysians comment negatively? no one is jealous of Malaysia, actually you have shown yourself so far Malaysia has always been jealous of Indonesia, change your mindset, don't be racist and don't be overly arrogant, this will embarrass your own country
to be fair, if you're active on twitter, a lot of indonesians were angry at jokowi and luhut for "losing" to malaysia that luhut had to defend himself "in malaysia, it's only a showroom and sales office".
Membalas balik sebab indon sebelum ke malaysia sudah sombong duluan..suka koar2 banding2 sama malaysia..hakikat malu sendiri hehehehehe...sama mcm piala Dunia koar last2 cancel😂😂...belum jadi jgn sombong tau konoha
Indon has always be babu haram & psk
Change your job or die in detention centre
Wait I thought there are 2 different things. Tesla open office in Malaysia whereas tesla wants to build battery factory in Indonesia.
Indonesia hanya ingin TESLA ingin membangun giga factory nya bukan untuk hanya kantor sales penjualan Tesla, jika Tesla tidak mau BYD sudah melirik Indonesia bahkan Wuling, Hyunday sudah membangun pabriknya, jadi negara kami punya harga tawar yang tinggi karena memiliki semua sumber daya ada di negara kami
Jika Malaysia bangga menjadi kantor penjualan TESLA bagi kami itu tidak kami inginkan 😂
Wait did malaysia got tesla thought? I thought we got the office only. Indonesia got that rare earth for the battery ev
Tesla can directly sell their car in Malaysia which does not need middle man. That is the reason tesla so cheap here. In Indonesia its Impossible since their government always need local partnership. Tesla shifting to LFP batteries now on some of there model. A battery that doesn't contain Nickel.
another point, ESG in malaysia is not as bad as in indonesia.
Another points. Most Nickel in Indonesia is class 2 Nickel. Not suitable for EV Battery which need Nickel Class 1.
Malaysia and Singapore only two countries that have included ESG as compulsory for public listing.
@@nazrinrahman that LFP is not doing so well, Tesla still in talks with Indo govt.
EM's Tesla EV investments in Malaysia and Indonesia is part of US strategic economic venture into SEA. EM cannot act alone. It's best for both Malaysia, Indonesia and Tesla to solve this matter amicably. At this stage, I think Indonesia is uncomfortable with Malaysia luring away Tesla from them. Remember that President Jokowi first met Elon Musk at his HQ in Austin, Texas on 15 May 2022 to discuss about EV and SpaceX investment in Indonesia.
That is indonesia's problem, not ours. And so by banning nickel export they think they could force people to setup factories there? Immature thinking. There are so many types of batteries that are developed. Once Australia's Darwin taiwan LFP cathode factory is ready, we are all going to get those cathodes for sure. Furthermore, nickel in Indonesia is class 2. In China it is class 1. It show how illiterate they are about materials and technology.
Itulh ngraa tukang tikung hasutt dr blkang..beri info buruk skligus keuntngan jika ada ngra k 3 yg msuk. Tdk bgus umtuk mmnbna hub ngra sprti itu..tp ttap indnesia akn lbh mnguntungknn nntii.
@@keangwooichoo6138 "could force people to set up factories there?".. in fact, YES😏 it's not immature thinking...
Several companies have joined forces in developing EV battery in Indonesia, and several companies are building their EV factories in Indonesia...
Tesla is not the only one EV company in the world, but i don't understand why people terlalu tergila2 dengan Tesla or Elon ya? Because he's so famous??😅
You said Indonesian nickel is class 2, that's not quite right, bcs Indonesia also produces class 1 nickel and the government is building several new smelters to increase production of this type of nickel, the government even targets more than 50 smelters to be built by 2024.
And LFP is just one of the options, no worries... the ones to worry about are countries that are heavily dependent on oil...
When the indo government banned the export of raw nickel ore and only allowed exports of finished or semi-finished nickel products, the value of nickel exports has increased 11-fold in 3 years, from USD 3 billion to USD 33 billion, especially when the EV battery and EV Auto industries have been operational, it will definitely be even more profitable, so I don't think the government has made the wrong policy...
Dan kau lihat lah, negara2 yang sangat maju sekarang mostly adalah negara2 yang tak cukup kaya dengan natural resources, tapi kita termasuk your country Malaysia kenapa tak boleh semaju mereka? Padahal kita ada natural resources yang lagi kaya dari mereka??
Look at Singapore, tak ada natural resources, then kita jual our raw products to them, and they make them into finished products and then sell with higher prices, dan mereka akhirnya maju dan lebih kaya raya dari kita.. kenapa kita tak buat sendiri di negara kita? Bodoh tak??
@@hendrayana3798 it is my opinion. You can keep shouting you are great, no point to me and the world. You do what is 'right' we do ours.
@@keangwooichoo6138 But your opinion about "immature thinking" is baseless and not in accordance with the facts..
30 tahun lalu Indonesia (1995) sudah bisa bikin pesawat fly by wire, tapi slalu di ganggu barat..
Malaysia baru bikin semi konduktor mobil aja udah koar koar merasa paling maju dari Indonesia..
I Love Indonesia.. ❤🇮🇩
Ckp guna fakta... msia.sudah buat semi konduktor sejak 1970 an lg
EM shift to Malaysia. Why this happen. Becos Indonesia want their share in Tesla Indonesia. They also want a ToT programme for Indonesia. That why EM distant away from Indonesia
I really like that it is about prospering thy neighbour rather than this country is better than the other. It is about synergistic and symbiotic relations rather than parasitic.
Thx for sharing your insights n win win collaboration within ASEAN 😊👍
Nikel might not be the future of EV battery. Semiconductor will be for the overall requirement for the EV.
It is Ltihium Ion now.. bladeless tech from BYD. Tesla started to buy battery cells from BYD.
Lithium-ion (or Li-ion) batteries are smaller in size, require low maintenance and are environmentally safer than Nickel-cadmium (also called NiCad, NiCd or Ni-Cd) batteries.
Im not really into BYD but yeah Tesla is investing in Malaysia better than them.
Tesla is just opening its sell and service center in Malaysia similar to what they have set up in thailand
Well GWM and Neta Auto just enter Indonesia market and set up factory in Indonesia. The main issue with Tesla in Indonesia is the price is too high for Indonesia market and logistically not economical to set up factory in Indonesia to serve overseas market.
lower cost EV player like Neta and GWM would fit better in Indonesia market.
BTW both company will start production next year not just infrastructure 😂
Indonesia mainly target Tesla battery factory not the auto factory
Surprisingly, you've missed out the most important point. The bypassing of AP. First time in Malaysia. That's why can get cheaper Tesla
Very well said. Kudos to you
soon tesla will bring solar panel technology too into malaysia market, massive production and application, we are tropical country after all
We are already manufacturing solar cells under China companies, too late for elon musk
I think Malaysia didn't "get" Tesla. Malaysia just opened the way for Tesla to sell direct in Malaysia, as well as service centers and superchargers.
Jokowi mission was I believe to get Tesla to set up a factory in Indonesia.
Malaysia will truly win if Tesla decides to open a factory in Malaysia. Be it auto or storage (battery factory)
True. Setting up factory will create more jobs rather than becoming the distributor in the pipeline. Plus Indonesia just launched Space X rocket last few months . They have the upper hand.
@@MdmChong惊人的 Indonesia launched SpaceX rocket?
I didnt know lah
@@frazierkok5795 Lol they didn't, he got it the complete opposite. Indonesian government commissioned SpaceX to launch their new satellite, and it was launched from their SpaceX launch site in the US. SpaceX launched Indonesian satellite, not the other way around.
@@excalibro8365yes. I follow the Tesla and SpaceX investors community very closely on X. Never heard of any launch from Indonesia
@@MdmChong惊人的 bro, msia's razaksat was launched in 2009 using spaceX, saving it from failing. pretty sure elon is pretty sentimental about tht
Saya gk mau pilih Tesla...... 🙃
Untuk masalah Teknologi EV, kita sebaiknya Langsung aja TTD kontrak Investasi sama BYD yg lebih maju soal teknologinya....
Terutama Yang kita Fokuskan Itu adalah Tesla Mau Bangun Factory bukan Sales Officer! 🙄
Hope the Konoha people will understand this rather than be stupid with jealousy 🤣
no one is jealous of Malaysia, in fact you have shown yourself all this time Malaysia has always been jealous of Indonesia, change your mindset, don't be racist and don't be over proud, this will embarrass your own country
prove it@@sardiumar3622
@@sardiumar3622 you are smart...
@@sardiumar3622 are you from Konoha 😅
@@decTac You really reflect the quality of education in Malaysia
Malaysia have far more better infrastructure compared to Indonesia. Malaysia have good roads and highways network and have land connectivity to Singapore. Malaysia also have more skill workers.
😂😂😂 sure about that?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just wait for those migrant workers return home.....
Definitely
haters will hate. 😂
It's benefit for us ASEAN. let's grow our economy bigger.
Could be because Malaysia is close to Singapore. Even though the plant is in Malaysia, Tesla may want to have its head office in Singapore and housed their key executives there.
Yes, if the factories are in Johor Baru adjacent to Singapore.
Great stuff Frankie!
Hello bro. After 2.5 hrs meeting with Luhut of Indonesia, Elon Musk told Luhut that Tesla has overcapacity in maqnufacturing of 1.3 million so have stop Mexico gigafactory for time neing and nit investing to set up new manufacturing anywhere for few years
Too expensive, who wants to buy
As a malaysian, I think Elon Musk would prefer Indonesia more than the little Malaysia due to conducive factors such as long-term readily market, positive environment and resources, and huge workforce in the modern indonesia. On the other side, Malaysia suffers from on-going corruption, including corruption in political injustice, unstable political rivalry between the Chinese and Pribumi Malays fighting to control the country. Malaysia also suffers from government protection in the local automotive industry, namely proton and perodua. Also, heavily dependent on foreign workers. If I was the owner of Tesla, personally I would invest in Indonesia, or my 2nd preference would be in Thailand or otherwise, I would stay and expand in China.
Are you being misled by the Govt? Since when did Tesla mentioned that they will set up manufacturing in Malaysia? Since when did Tesla said that its Head Office is a HQ for the Asia-Pacific or ASEAN region? If you study properly, the Head Office is meant to be serve all the states of Malaysia in the sales of Tesla. Since when is selling Tesla EV in Malaysia is considered an investment in pure sense? If so Hyundai and Toyota selling their vehicles are likewise an investment. Malaysia lured Tesla by giving them concession into the satellite broadband market which is presently done by local company.
We will wait and see. The office in cyberjaya will tell
@@keangwooichoo6138 at least not until the state election.
wait and see..
bruh who is using MEASAT though? cost? speed? tech? think of all that. That is why rural area really need Starlink access.
If you want local do that then we should have our own starlink but what is the cost then? Do we have manpower? intel?
Why should elon come to malaysia if they just want to rasmi the hq country
According to me, actually i really dont mind as an indonesian telsa goes to open their factory else where, because Otherwise our people will be working for foreign company, of course they'll say indonesia is lacking of this and that, and that's normal. I personally prefer those foreign companies investing in indonesia that would like to share their technology as we say transfer of technology. So maybe someday the indonesian would be more skillful and maybe cleverer.
Sorry! In Indonesia is not TELSA but Hyundai.. Don’t forget 30 million va 270 million. Hyundai is so damn smart! 😂
Indon asemka ghoinbb lallala
@@aimyon1996 asemka bkn electric Bodoh! 😂 Hyundai sudah banyak yg pakai di Indonesia. Stupid Malay
Because TELSA will never want Indon
@@jesusnotgod5635 and we don’t give a fuck with TESLA @muhammadisaFake 😂
I read briefly these few weeks back in socials that MY will b the brand's MANUFACTURING hub for SEA? So a factory after all instead of just showroom & HQ?😳 If this is true... yeay!!!!!!🥳
Love this kind of video
H7undai and GM Wuling already constructing their EWV plant in Indonesia. BYD is in negotiation with Indonesia to do the same. CATL and LG already invested $ 12 billion to manufacture EV battery in Indonesia. So what rubbish you are talking about?
🔱. Malaysian Be Advised that TESLA is just another Player who is new to the Game. Musk Isa name which looks for Attention pretanding not to. It's a Skill which WEST is good for.💯.
Stay Positive.🇲🇾
Tesla belum cukup mampu mengangkat ekonomi Malaysia ,tanpa Tesla Indonesia tetap berjaya dengan mobil listrik dan baterai listrik ,nikel ,bauxit ,timah dan Enerji cukup tersedia di Indonesia .
#FAQ🔥
Is Musk going to build factory or set up showroom in Malaysia? Knowning Elon, its probably going to take 5 years just for blueprint (take a look at planned factories in Mexico and India, nothing to see there) as for Indonesia, Tesla was just a cherry on top of the EV cake as we've have Hyundai and Wulling factories here and Geylee coming soon. Still Congrats to Malaysia though.
For heavens sake. Tesla only open a regional office.
If they open a factory, it's will probably be in our neighbouring countries as we never honoured asean free trade deal with regards to motor vehicles due to proton and perodua protectionist policy
Protected by gov proton perodua. If you protect you fail
The speaker should be appointed as University Professor
apples and oranges though, malaysia got regional headquarter but indonesia wanted a battery factory, possibly followed by EV giga. there's still hope since musk will only make the announcement late this year. candidates are: india, south korea, next china giga, and indonesia.
Thailand got Tesla factory !
Tesla think twice before enter Indonesia market, that's ranking of corruption 110th in the world and 5th in South East Asia, although Indonesia got the big reserve nickel but..if corruption still haunted investers..no wonder
Sepertinya di malaysia juga ada korupsi
korupsi di indo kayaknya terlalu parah. mending ramei warganya miskin di kota2 kumuh
@@thegamexxx9011 anjing british memang begitu klu cakap, IQ tinggi adab rendah 🤣🤣
Bravo PM Anwar
PM Anwar said Tesla office in Msia is a REGIONAL hq
Indonesia here
Elon Musks decission making skills especially when it comes to corporate issues is an open question.
One might argue Malaysia has a work force that has basic experience manufacturing vehicles but we never managed to become skill full at it. Even European and Japanese havent managed to fix the quality issues that are still common on locally assembled units.
Power production in Indonesia is still insufficient for current local consumption. Looting of unattended charging station are a big risk. Many more issues that Indonesia needs to address to meet Tesla's expectation.
The duck are you talking about?
The duck are you talking about?
The duck are you talking about?
Thanks for the information , Collaboration is the key to prosperity and win win situation for both countries, it's not worth the effort if LUHUT PANJATAITAN went to face EM if GOOD GOVERNANCE is not visible and EM is fully aware what's going on in that country. Raw materials of abundance are worth nothing if the environmental prospective are ignored plus the feasible infrastructure to make it happen doesn't exist.
Elon Musk in discusision to build battery and energy storage manufacturing in Indonesia.
polution in indonesia is worst
Man reading scripts like i do during my uni presentation hahahaha but good content! 🤩
Tesla not use a nickel anymore for battery
it's tesla that lost a lot by choosing malaysia. indonesia is the biggest nickel producer and tesla wants to dictate how the cooperation going, it should be a win-win. now CATL as the biggest battery producer has already agree to invest in indonesia.
Because of business opportunity and more jobs we are directed to EV but for driving enthusiasm hell no = )
No need to compare.. 🇲🇾 & 🇮🇩 are brotherhood.. either 🇮🇩 or 🇲🇾 get tesla.. It's a win win situation.. In future there will be a bridge between this 2 country 👍🏻
Nonsense.
Good evening we Malaysians are very slow i whan my Malaysians business leaders the Chinese melay Indian punjabi sarawakian sabahrian people come ferun to top awere country you must understand about Indonesia is coming front we Malaysians have prof all this country they are Indonesia Vietnam Cambodia Thailand Sri Lanka we rayat Malaysia whan to see in five years to come we must be tigers of Asia from uncle West Malaysia horizons kl
Nice video
Will Toyota keep mute and release its crown in Indonesia since 25% of its investment have been shifted to EV? I don't believe so...
if Tesla set up factory, then Malaysians should be excited... not this... Tesla only setting up regional hq in malaysia. at most 100 staff.
Still EV is not clean for the environment, and might be a short term technology until the Japanese and Germans go full fledged on hydrogen technology.
True. They will dig out limited earth element that is not replacable. EV is a scam I must say.
Hydrogen is clean? It is from fossil fuel or break up water with more energy.
That is the reason why toyota is not so interested in developing it's own ev cars but have it's hydrogen car technology rapidly developing.
Toyota is the world no.1 car producer now overtaking vw.
@@keangwooichoo6138 New technology developed by Porsche with partners. Hydrogen derived from air and water using clean plant technologies that are zero emission and approved by the EU regulators, which are the strictest in the world. Tested in real life situation and passed the test. Unfortunately will only be cheap if all countries adopt it, same as EV technology at the beginning.
@@ishaks8152 Toyota, VW, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes all have hydrogen based vehicles. For the very first time, the Japanese and Germans are working together to make this the future of clean emission technology for vehicles.
Malaysia have NR-REE worth RM800b, maybe next battery?
I am happy the white mug is still there.
POLITICS Indonesia is not stable, there are WHEN, WHEN there are demonstrations, Malaysia's POLITICS are stable, no demo at all
But politic in indonesia more mature than malaysia.
not stable? like cancelling HSR KL-SG ????
Its all about IQ....you know who is better....
Malaysia is just a car sales agent, Indonesia doesn't want to be like Malaysia, besides Tesla Elon will make a SPACE X base in Papua
saya tak mampu beli tesla,harga beras dah naik
Hope gov invest for cargo hyperloop build by tesla from kuantan port to port klang , own by Malaysian goverment and service by tesla, so we can eclipse Singapore and all malacca straits transhipment. And we can make tesla to stay and bring more technology and factory here.
I didn’t see any comments from Indonesian
Congrat malaysia.😊
What Malaysia own components caaan we supplty to Tesla? Shanghai Gigafactory all components from China vendors. Tesla Model Y al in CBU form when imported into Malaysia.
Haraplah Malaysia boleh buat satu jenama motosikal yang mesra alam , Malaysia boleh insyaallah amin 🤲
Countryside
Penang?kulim hitech
Who is better? Of course lah Ismail Sabri, he was the one who met Elon Musk during meeting at USA.
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Battery and car raw material come from Indonesia. Indonesia has power to politize the EV Industry. I believe Indonesia will force the manufacturer to build in Indonesia,
I am not sure EV Industry will sustained while still manufactured outside Indonesia.
Well try find raw material from other country
After 350 years of Indonesia being colonized by Western countries, they realized that the potential of their raw materials only benefited the colonialists and Indonesia's materials was only exploited with little profit. Luhut was smart to say that we make the rules, not you. from there EM retreats
its the difference as a warrior nation if you ask me.
Tesla hanya buka pusat jualan dan servis sahaja di Malaysia. Indonesia, kamu jangan runsing atau keciwa. Tesla akan pergi jumpa kamu juga akhirnya.
Regional HQ juga ya
tesla ga mau investasi di indon. kabarnya kopiko udah investasi 500billion bangun pabrik baterai dari biji kopi luak. bikin bangga 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Malay cuma agen penjualan, Elon sudah bilang untuk hold dulu bahkan yg di meksiko.malay terlalu halusinasi😂
Indon pula langsung ga ada apa2
Hidup2 di prank orang
Malu mendonia
Saya ingatkan sekali lagi ya pabrik batterey dah sangat jelas yg bina kan indonesia dan satu satunya di Asean. Sekarang aku mau tanya kalo suatu saat Proton mau bina mobil elektric battereynya mau beli dari manan kalo tdk dari indonesia. Kalo seandainya beli dari Cina mahal di transport nya sehingga harga pasti tdk bisa kompetitif dg produk mobil dari negara lain. Coba di komen ya, Malay tdk akan berkutik dan tekuk lutut beli batterey dari indo pastinya krn hanya indo yg bina ha ha ha ....
Please state your comments in English.😅
Malaysia only office. Indonesia is the factory
Tesla not opening factory in indon its only their media over hype it
Could be battery factory, or gigafactory.
Dekat Indonesia sudah punya EV car mereka sendiri " esemka", Tesla kalah bersaing dengan esemka yang dibuat dengan teknologi Akan datang.
@@imjuzsayin..5017battery factory dah ground breaking kat Kulim Kedah early this week. Tapi bukan under nama TESLA... so kita tunggu aje Elon nak buka apa sebenarnya..
@@mdghazalidaud3638😂😂😂betul3…gpp mimpi itu gratis
INDONESIA tidak butuh TESLA, INDONESIA TIDAK AKAN JUAL BAHAN BAKU KE LUAR NEGERI TERMASUK BAHAN BAKU YANG DIBUTUHKAN TESLA...
pubrik battery dunia udah gak pake bahan baku nikel, meraka udah pada pake teknologi baru LFP battery, itu gak bisa meledak atau kebakar.
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