I'm one of the first batch of '04 students that took UPSR, PT3 and SPM with the new and updated formats, and I'm currently in my bachelor's degree. All I can say is that the new exam format is already good, and yes the teachers play a big role in how students understand what they've learnt in class. Now that the 2 out of 3 crucial exams in Malaysia are abolished, I see students' grades plummeting. It went viral on tiktok too with teachers showing how their students nowadays answer exam questions, very rude and very influenced by today's social media trends. Those "sebab boleh dik" as their asnwers are very insane. Thank you for making this video! This made me want to do my best in my Bachelor's Degree in TESL to be one of the teachers that Malaysia really needs.
It's much worse when the students aren't reminded of the importance of these exams.....PT3 and UPSR existed to get a better assessment on children and giving them options that suits their abilities. Nowadays, students especially form 2s dont care about writing the right answer, and some straight-up wrote racist answers influenced by political propaganda trends on tiktok....This is what plummeted our education standards all because of that Radzi Jidin aka. Nobita's headmaster. Its deeply concerning, and they can't just make stupid experimental policies which CHANGES based on administration its sooooo dumb and waste of resources
true true! batch '06 here and I took upsr and sadly pt3 was abolished. With upsr , I'm able to somehow continue and understand f1-2 better and without pt3 I was suffering in f4/5 but too late dy spm started already for me so I can only fix and move forward ~
Malaysian schools should cultivate the habit of retaining students, at least when pt3 and upsr are removed. instead of making them move forward and do national exams without being prepared.
..... one of the first batches ..... When you say one of.... it means there are two or more and you are picking one. So, one of the houses, one of the the cars, one of the groups, etc.
Why are we even surprise with our country's education system. Instead of really focusing on educating the future generations, our ministers are more keen to change the syllabus, change the language used to teach science subjects and also change the dress code of the students. the same thing kept happening every 5 years when there is a new education minister
so true man i always talk about how changing the syllabus was a terrible option as it literally makes students do worse on average and its literally making our country’s students seem dumber than they actually are its sad to see
Yes each new education minister seems to have a new pet peeve of his own- to mention one- black shoes. It’s because the education ministers are selected on their lack of intelligence and kow towing attitude to the current pm.
But honestly, I agree the minister to change the current syllabus as the content is not age appropriate. Is way too difficult for the student to understand ( especially early primary , eg. std 1-3). But, of course, the quality of the teacher is also a problem where they are not prepared to teach the "HOTS" questions to the student... so, they just ask the student to just copy. that's very sad ~!
My youngest brother corrected his schoolteacher by stating that Siem Reap is actually in Cambodia and not Thailand but got lambasted and his schoolteacher insisted that Siem Reap is in Thailand - just shows the quality there. On a serious note, it's just the school system. I was only educated in the local school for 4 years and when I came back to Malaysia, I can see the vast differences - the ability to be critical, think for ourselves, the courage to express our views, evaluate thgs, love for knowledge etc were all missing. It's all about impressing busybody aunties and strangers with empty-shelled grades here.
Government should really start investing more in education and have better standards in hiring teachers. I remember getting through PT3 and SPM relying on textbooks, and activity books with answer schemes because the teachers are either not teaching or absent. I didn't go to tuitions because they cost a lot. Books were enough to help me get straight As in both exams, and that's another problem. I only know how to sit for exams and regurgitate what I've read, not that I'm actually knowledgeable. Fortunately, I'm learning better in university now, I'm still learning independently (through the internet) but at least now I can apply, thanks to all the assignments, projects and practicals.
In my opinion, one of the reasons why our teachers nowadays is not really good as before is due to the subject that was assigned to them to be teaching… I have a few friends who graduated as a teacher and major in Sastera but then was assigned to teaching in Math… therefore, at the end, they just teach what was showed in the textbooks and sometimes don’t even master it on that subject… that is based on my friend situation… I think it’s one of the factors…
I heard of many teachers who are asked to teach English even when they aren't qualified and not trained as English teachers. Also my friend knew teachers who marked SPM papers and you will be shocked to know the passing score for Maths & Add Maths. It's unbelievable and no wonder many goats A* in SPM but perform badly in college and unis.
@@vister6757 its 30 or sumtin,maybe less than 15,my friend jokingly said that anyone who didnt pass math in spm either have to be lack of chromosome or just fell asleep as soon as they get the paper
Language is not a problem. As a Chinese independent high school student, I was taught in Mandarin all the way until UEC (equivalent to STPM) for all STEM subjects. We primarily converse in Mandarin but we also learned English seriously. After UEC, a lot of us have come to Singapore for university (NUS/NTU, check their rankings), including me. We are doing very well here, way above average in terms of academics and some of us even have topped the class with First Class Honours and Dean's List. The truth is, language should not matter in STEM education. The teachers matter. We are really fortunate to have these dedicated teachers at Chinese independent high schools that really cared about our learning or we will never achieve what we have today. It's a shame that our politicians make race and language an issue when it really is not. Don't blame the language and fix the root cause of the problem.
It is not just about exam results. Sense of belonging and history as well. If you can’t speak the national language, you are already a failure. We can’t risk having citizens who can’t even communicate with the rest. In times of war, an ultimate disaster.
Do you know that "they" and "us" are marked and graded under different BELL CURVE? And before exams they have tutorial classes where the questions and answers are given?
You are fortunate to have encountered good teachers in Chinese Independent School. The challenge is succession of such good teachers, without good succession the next he will be doomed
among the less competitive students , there is a serious problem as they can't hold a reasonable conversation in English or Bahasa. And I realized this group is not small!
It's not the problem of early education or teachers.. It's the mentality of beloved policy makers that sabotaged the education system, government employment system for political gains.. It had been 'twisted' so badly that it might take decades to straighten back only IF they willing to.. As for language, we always hear terms like Perkasakan Bahasa hailed by politicians.. But they happily sending their own generations overseas to study which obviously in other language.. At the end, perkosakan our generations.. Sadly, there are still some Ultra M that live in the state of denial again and again.. Cut short: Rubbish In.. Rubbish Out
I found it easier to understand and remember SPM's science course in DLP compared to in Bahasa Melayu, I speak Malay and took it in Malay. There's obviously some problem in the translation and explanation in our textbook. Not to mention most of it were directly translated to Bahasa from English, which as we know isn't ideal especially when it comes to education. This is just in my opinion and perspective; Or maybe I am just an oddball. Sure, there's certain concept that's easier to grasp when explained in Malay, but these textbooks were structred using English sources and by English scholars. There ought to be words and terms that is better explained in English. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have Malay in science courses. After all, who's gonna use the language when not even the citizen of the country itself use it? We need to strengthen and put more care into writing science textbook in Malay. Add more words to the dictionary and write more definition to unknown terms. Give those words (in Bahasa) more exposure to the public so they can prepare themselves to learn those unfamiliar terms. ()
@ptaeiy DLP stands for Dual Language Programme. Basically, there is two language you can choose to learn science & maths subjects, English or Malay. What I meant by DLP in my comment earlier is the English programme, since its' logo are only printed on the English course. Some subject that's included in the programme are: 1) Science 2) Additional Science 3) Physics 4) Chemistry 5) Biology 6) Maths 7) Add Maths
@@user-28qhfk65 You're not alone my man , I also feel the same , I learned my STEM subjects in Bahasa , but i feel weird with the explanation , tbh i prefer the English one
@@user-28qhfk65 I found it the other way around; that is I found it easier to comprehend SPM STEM subjects in Bahasa Melayu as opposed to English. I'm assuming that you studied under an older syllabus (KBSM), since the textbooks were translated from its English counterpart as PPSMI policy ended so the default textbooks were in English pre-2012. But starting from the new syllabus, DLP books are the ones being translated from its Malay edition. I took A-Level which is obviously in English and still scored well enough. Thus coming to my point, I don't think that the language itself is the problem but instead the way they are being taught in schools. There are a lot of teachers that were asked to teach Science even though it's not their major. Having STEM subjects being taught in Malay is not a problem as PPSMI policy is considered a failure, that's why it's been abolished. As a matter of fact, in the Philippines, the ones that were English-taught scored lower in PISA than the ones who didn't. Sure, I'm not denying that it is easier to find English-based sources for Science subjects but that doesn't necessarily means that the pupils would have higher science literacy as it would require them to be proficient in English first.
I've to agree the point on having qualify teachers. Embarrassingly, I failed my Physic for the entire year of Form 4, as low as 16 points. But in my Q2 Form 5, my parents sent me to a nearby tuition center. That part time tutor was good, he just a post graduate Utar student working for part time. Thanks to him, he manage to compress all Form 4 & 5 learnings in just few months. Easy to straightforward learning with him. Manage to get an A for SPM. 😂 The right teacher, the right result.
I always failed math and the school put me in the science stream which was even more stressful with add math. Been made the laughing stock for the whole of form 4 because the add math and mod math teachers were spreading throughout the upper secondary that they wondered why I was put in the science stream when I can't even pass math during PT3. When I finally got the financial aid(my English teacher and principal personally tried to get me financial help since all of my scholarship applications were denied for years), I started to go for Mod math tuition near my house. Sadly, they didn't offer any other subjects besides English, Bahasa and Math since someone new took over and the previous teachers quit. Surprisingly I passed every subject I used to fail except accounts because the teacher sabotaged my kerja kursus and I didn't get all the necessary paperwork
When we have an education system that "passes" everybody even though they fail, meaning dropping the qualification or passing rate of focus this is seep into the future
to be honest, it sounds sick that they still use covid19 as their reason in failing the Malaysia education system. I’m currently 21 years old, and I was the first batch in delaying my SPM because of the pandemic era. Let me tell you, the education system was failing even before the pandemic begins due to lack of knowledge and experiences from the high school teachers. I still remember the teachers don’t even understand the questions i asked from the syllabus, and even answer my questions without answering. But that doesn’t apply to all teachers, some are great, passionate and dedicated with teaching. And in their classes, everyone just seem to get along with them and scored great marks during spm. I can’t imagine if some of us don’t really have one single teacher that really motivate and guide us properly in studies, i think that’s why a lot of us prefer to go to tuitions despite high tuition fees.
Actually after 1970 the government under mahathir started the teaching of most subjects in bahasa Malaysia and it started the decline of english. The start of the government flig flog in implementing teaching school subjects in bahasa throughout all these years produced all the present Kang Kong students even to Kang Kong professors. It's a bunch of sad events or stories, yet we always proud of " Malaysia boleh"😢
Yes, Dr Mahathir started the rot..he can't escape the fact that he was and still is to blame..he was the Education Minister in the 1970s..since he's still around and kicking, why not ask him to explain what he did that had caused this irreversible rot?? He must be held accountable!!
Wait for more than 5 yrs, HLP suddenly cancel the name and cant appeal.. The BOSS who withdraw the name said bcos later pakar speaks louder than her. With this kind of mentality, Malaysia cant go far.
If you look Siti Mastura recent comment, you will know what kind of level our education is at. And the bitter pill to swallow is that if the gov change the language to english, many Malays will go crazy and said that the governemnt is anti malay and want to destroy bahasa. The PN party will use this as a bullet to gain support. Thus there will always be a stalemate in decision. Change it, and the next thing you know, PN will become the government and we can kiss goodbye to Malaysia. The malays need to wake up to understand that nobody is challenging them. We are all for education. But sadly they can't think critically that way. They only have the 1 way street thinking. It's either you are with them or against them because they are the majority.
it got nothing to do with medium of education. Many monolingual countries performed well in math and science, eg Korea, Japan, china, HK, taiwan and others. somemore malay language doesnt have enough words by itself and it oftens borrow words from english anywhere and tried to malaylised it. You got to learn the english words also. there are many issues resulted in the standard of education here. flip flop policies, teachers quality, parents dont care abt their children's education performance, parents care too much about their children education performance and removed them and placed in private schools and etc
My friend sent me a job application for the UN. And I quote ‘they have had a lot of applicants but so far none of them have a good enough grasp of English for the position’… I declined coz I have no interest in being a bureaucratic hack. The position required a masters degree ‘from a reputable learning institution’ and fluency in English and BM. They had to extend the deadline.
PISA = PIZZA, delicious, sedap! But Malaysia kantoi. Singapore uses the method of recruiting “crème de la crème” students. Give them scholarships. Bond them. Send them to the best universities e.g. Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, MIT. Come back to be teachers and paid well and comparable to architects, IT professional etc. School students are well taught because the teaches themselves are clever. Additional advantage is Singapore uses English as medium of instruction. Singapore uses budget allocation well for education. May be Malaysia can adopt some of these footsteps.
Up until the late 70’s, school lessons in both Malaysia and Singapore were taught in English. Malaysia then changed over to teaching using Bahasa, while Singapore continued with using English as the medium of instruction. There were strong suspicions that the hidden agenda behind the Malaysian decision was to retard the progress of the Chinese. Now, it looks as if the decision has backfired, as it had retarded the learning of all students.
Dr Mahathir was the Minister of Education from 1974 to 1978. He was responsible for the changes..the ones who were heavily affected were the people of Sabah. In 1977 in Sabah, many Form 3 students who sat for their LCE exam failed their BM paper. BM was suddenly made mandatory to pass in the 1977 LCE exam in Sabah by the Ministry of Education. And that had to happen when it was the last year of the English medium of instruction in Sabah. Tun M must explain and perhaps, apologize to the people of Sabah. It was an extremely irresponsible move as Education Minister, back then.
I’m a student, doing form 6 I have a problem in my school Where my Economics teacher would enter the class at least 15 minutes late daily And there were some cases where she would skip the lesson because she couldn’t understand the topic And her classes will always be boring whenever we don’t perform well for exams She would tell us to drop out from form 6 and do something else
Reminded me of my form 4 history teacher, when she teach us, less than 10 students pass then she complaint why 30+ students failed when the less than 10 students can pass lmao the next year the other teacher teach us, but this time around it's less than 10 students failed while the new teacher also helped us picked up all form 4 chapters and around 20 students out of 44 students get A. I guess the result do slap that teacher loud and clear and eventually she can never teach student in form 4 and above especially people like us in IT class hahaha so fun when thinking back this shetty teacher but yea, you're very unlucky
wow, it's the worst, at least in my school, if the teacher was so busy or "couldn't understand the topic", they would just let the class be free and the students wouldn't care if they failed cause they got their own way to study and the teacher would also not scold them (that's actually a problem btw)
Yes this is common problem. Teachers are being pressured/forced to do topics that they are not good in due to the lack of quality teachers. When I went for my daughter's Parent teacher day, (SMJK school) I asked the teacher if she can speak to me in English cos I'm not fluent in Mandarin, she said, "OK, I'll try." That's not the problem. The problem is.... later when I asked her what subjects is she teaching, she said, "Moral and English." It was obvious she was below average in her English language proficiency, and I just feel sorry that she was forced to teach this subject.
Ik me too, untill this last semester 3 i dont even understand closely in economic subject bcuz of the teach he given were so boring. I had to try my best to get mid result every exam.
I want to simply add a point here... some parents are also a problem. They prefer their child to be in a "loving, stress free environment without any care in the world". Hence the school/teacher cannot even scold and reprimand their children, heck the parents would even do the child's homework for them(true story) and with the new (no national exam policy till form 5) there is no will for the children to study. So we are now breeding an even worse upcoming generation.
Yeah true, let these parents suffer the consequences some day, when children say to their faces, " Why didn't you tell me earlier!!, otherwise my life won't be this bad"
My wife is preschool teacher in a government kindergarten. Actual teaching is less than 20% of her workload. She has to do clerical works, accounting, asset management, groceries purchasing for kids' meals, building maintenance as well as community engagement.
The core issue isn't the teachers themselves, its about not being able to even keep qualified people to wanna be teachers in Malaysia. The incentives simply isn't there, imagine being good at something but have to play the politics just to have better pay and opportunities. These qualified teachers either open up a tuition center, teach at a private school or private chinese UECs, or go abroad to do something bigger than Malaysia in their area of expertise. Ngl, the last idea is quite popular ranging from the older generations to the younger ones like myself. Edit: quality education in Malaysia has a hefty price tag based on the reasons stated above. Once they graduate, you best believe they have the money to leave the country.
I would say that even the teachers are overwhelmed. All our teacher in school have to handle extracurricular activites, patrol the school hall, and other stuff outside teaching. Some teachers who studied in a certain field was also forced to teach in different subject than what they are expert in.
@@brandonchan4537 Yeah, I just grad from college and the lecturer literally had 3 different task aside from teaching (and they didn't volunteer at all) making them having less time to give more on students and researched, when I hear from them I admired them so much yet feel so sad cause they can't do what they want on class.
Headmaster and teachers are from religion school most of them just came back from Egypt or other part of Arab country approval by our government, it was mathatir who pull down our education by 20 years
We have the most passing rate in Asia when mathatir was the education minister, and it is sad most of them are send to Egypt and other part of Arab country to study religion these people come back and were send to national school throughout the country to be headmaster, headmistress and teachers, mathatir is the root cause of our education today
Finally, a level head comment instead of the usual lets blame the malays and NEP and all that crap. When i finished high school 20 yrs ago, enrolling in a teaching college is reserved for those who really have no other choice, its either be a teacher or go work in a shop stocking shelves. As you can imagine, the quality of teachers are not great, and the law of proportionality dictates that we don’t get great students coming out of the education system. Also, being a teacher is overworked, underpaid, and bleak career prospect in the current Malaysia. Their promotion is time based (8 years), Pensions are also gonna be taken away, et al. I really see no incentive whatsoever for any aspiring teachers.
i got straight A's for spm last year and applied for IPG. I didn't even passed the psychometric test lol. i think it's slowly improving and IPG even have program cemerlang things where they sent excellent spm students abroad. sadly last year they sent students to arabic country for agama/arab while my school didn't even offer arab language as a subject. i wonder why can't they just offer more option for these excellent students? not to mention that only spm students for that year are the only one that can apply. but it's still concerning, my mom are teaching in primary school and she told me that the practicums teacher that are major in TESL from KPTM can't even speak in front of students in class! those who graduated from IPG are not going to disappoint but those who aren't, i've lost for words... if they're given the position as a full-time teacher, we might see the same Malaysia again 💁
PISA, everyone wants the best for their children, my parents were poor and I came from a non english speaking family and learning English competently was very difficult for me, I had to use a translation dictionary when I first started to take english seriously, then I spent one whole year reading news week, national geographic and keeping a word bank, while listening to ted talks to try to mimic their pronunciations. I would say the most important lesson they can teach you in school is how to be resourceful and learn on your own, education should be lifelong, knowledge is our most valuable asset that only aging can take it away from us
They say the more rural it is, the worse it gets. Edu offices tell schools to give out at least a Band 3 for PBD because there shouldn't be any excuses for them not to. In truth, those students that do not belong in the mainstream class, should've been put into a special needs class. but imagine hearing people saying our children is in a special needs class, it would probably be deemed as something derogatory.
1. Education system does not emphasize on critical thinking. Govt abolished pmr/upsr with the right thinking of being less exam-oriented. But they failed to replace it with something else. 2. Teachers will always be unqualified. Need to improve the teacher training schools. Friends mentioned that it is trash. 3. A committee (govt, experts, ngos) should review through the education materials. Too much dumbing down and brainwashing. 4. Some teachers refuse english. Perhaps due to institutionalised racism. Pmx needs to send a clearer message on this. Interpret the constitution once and for all.
we don't encourage critical thinking and was always taught to go by the book since young. Sadly that results in the current state of our country as well where some people just couldn't see the bigger picture and resort to sweet talks by politicians
@@kiat3457critical thinking is overrated Those who are able to think critically will be able to think critically and those who unable to will never be able to do it Sometimes it's not about the education system but people themselves Some people will be always be smarter than others
@@kiat3457to master the skills students who need to work on it by researching deeper themselves in the subject taught, encouraging them to think and ask when facing difficulties. But the next question would be are the teachers prepared to guide, and help these students when they need it?
Our culture, which is a hodge podge of confucianism, islamic, and dharmic culture discourages critical thinking and encourages obedience. You can tweak and beat the syllabus to death with critical thinking, but if its in your cultural dna to not do so, we are really not gonna go far with it. Case in point, i did my doctorate in the UK, and had to teach and train students, mix of undergrad and grads. I noticed that students from asian systems (india and china especially) had to be spoonfed to the last drop. They can’t really think for themselves like the westerners can (generally). If i throw a curveball, the chinese n indian students will usually be left dumbfounded and stuck, they can’t proceed. They’re great if you tell them exactly what to do, hard workers and very professional, going above and beyond, however, if its a new project and you need brainpower, i’d steer clear of graduates from asian schools. When i came back to Malaysia i saw the exact same problem, and it cuts across the board with the ethnicities. So yeah, before we force feed the critical thinking to the kids, maybe we need a cultural revolution…
Every Malaysian RUclipsr videos I see and friends I spoke to all are critics of their system… The smart and affluent parents knows it’s hopeless to say and do anything. That’s why they send their children to overseas for education. Period…
When news media interviews Malay community what they want from the government, the most common answer you hear is, we want to vote for the government who will give us more subsidies. A good government will have policies that improves the economic status and quality of life of their citizens that they do not need government subsidies to live a comfortable life. They would have received a good quality education and secured a good paying job, or has good business growth environmental to be profitable entrepreneurs. Examples of countries with competent governments are Singapore, Switzerland, Finland, etc. Their citizens are not looking for their government to give them subsidies because they don't need it. Their expectations of their government are at a much higher level.
I am 65 years old. We had a fantastic education system then. Now my family is always talking about the education every weekend when we meet. The language is the number 1. Dual what 😢. No wonder my family is going to International schools. So much of brain drain going on. The TEACHERS should be made responsible and passionate. My sister who was a teacher here later moved to Singapore and was amazed with their system. Why are we not sharing and learning from all the countries after the Pisa.
The moment they abolished the English medium of instruction, standard dropped and still dropping. Look at Singapore and Brunei, they still maintain their English medium of Education.
You do know that the marking and grading of students in Malaysia is based on race? The MM and NM are graded under different BELL CURVE 🔔 ... They are graded amongst themselves and you the NM amongst yourselves ... That's how good quality their students are and they're the ones to become the teachers in the local schools. That's why those parents (my friends) who knew this sent their children to overseas, Singapore or private schools. BTW 98.9% of their civil servants are their own people!
if you are saying that it is due to the teachers, it is totally wrong ! There are teachers from Gen X that is really committed. The main reason is the teachers are burden with the internal IT system that is not realiable and stable ie input the score into the grading system and the system is always hang. Hence the teacher has to stay up late until 3 am just to input the data. No enough sleep. Got to do clerical work. No 2 - too many ad-hoc that is not related to teaching. The children were left in the classroom due to teachers got to do the ad-hoc things. No 3 is changing the policy from time to time without referring to the teachers that are already at the ground. The minister and ministrial senior management are still looking the best for the nation but end up too many of them are just makan angin...or just NATO (No action talk only).
Programming and software immature due to corruption practicing when sourcing the IT products and sale after services. Education basically every year score a very good budget provided by government expenditures , All money and planners has (politician) it agenda by purchased unqualified service providers and supplies the low or lower edition (which does not responding well in huge users). I T shall able to assist all the organization and company to concise the manual works and less time spending to do analysis and decision making.
Setuju dengan point awak. Guru tu yang paling penting selepas ibu bapa la of course, they are the first teacher, but in the school, the teacher plays a significant role in educating the children. Rindu zaman saya dulu di mana Cikgu adalah yang paling excellent dalam apa yang diorang ajar, dan itu memang pilihan mereka untuk menjadi pendidik. While sekarang menjadi Cikgu adalah pilihan, suatu kerjaya, nak expect apa kan? Setengah orang tu subjek yang dia ajar tu subjek minor degree dia, bukan subjek major dia pun 😢. Sedih betul la
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I started work in SG since last month. I did visit SG government school and selling some school material. I found out their standard is way higher than MY and the facility is so much like an International school standard. So yes Malaysia education is a big failure.
It all started when the English medium of education was abolished. Standard dropped and dropped and still dropping. The government emphasized too heavily on Bahasa - a very costly mistake.
Very true.All started from Tun M time .He was education minister during the 70s .He also made school not to speak in english.Should anyone speak english at that time we were made to pay 10 cents during 70s.Tun was the education minister.Most of the subjects were changed at his time to Bahasa. Later Tun wanted to change back to english ,he think easy..
I beg to differ, Tun M introduced PPSMI in 2003 but it were abolished in 2012. Why? Because it's considered a failure because when PPSMI were introduced, the grades for national exams dropped drastically. The language of instruction is not the problem.
Yes, Dr Mahathir, as he then was, was the Education Minister from 1974 to 1978. If you are a Sabahan born in the 1960s you would recall there were so many students failed their secondary school Form 3 LCE exam in 1977 because of one language subject ie BM which was, out of the blue, made it mandatory to pass by the Ministry of Education - unprecedented. Form 3 in the year 1977 was the last year of the English medium in Sabah (formerly known as British North Borneo). The question then was, why made BM paper compulsory for students sitting for their LCE exam in 1977 when it was the last year in English medium? Students studied in English for all their subjects from day one surely they were many students not ready for it as more time should have been given to them to be better prepared but shockingly, it wasn't. Many careers were 'killed' because many bright students did not get at minimum a pass in the BM paper, either oral or written. Students of well to do parents were lucky to be able to continue their secondary education in private institutions but the poor bright ones had no way to go. They were 'robbed' of a decent education at 15, 16 years of age. Many could have achieved their dreams of becoming what they had wanted to be - doctors, pilots, engineers, scientists, etc. but they dreams were destroyed. What the Education ministry did back then was unconstitutional and in breach of the MA63 but no one seemed to care, not even the Sabah CM, Datuk Harris Salleh because he was a 'Yes man'...and the rest is history. Since Tun M was the Minister of Education in charge in the 70s, perhaps, he should explain the logic, if any, behind such a sudden move, and/or apologise to the people of Sabah at the minimum because it was a very irresponsible act, to say the least.
What's wrong? Look at the facility in school. Not every class in every school has either an lcd projector or smart tv. That's just the basic for the modern education. Most school has 2 sessions. Only certain selected schools such as MRSM, SMS or other smart school has one session.Not to mention the gap between the facility in urban and rural schools.Internet access, latest books for students to read and refer. Yet, KPM(MOE) is too busy insisting HOTS to ALWAYS be included in lesson for kids as early as Primary 1 despite not able to master the basic skills or reading, writing and counting. Take a step back to progress forward.
I was a teacher teaching science in a secondary school before retired in 2015. As I followed this video from the start till the end, I found out what was mentioned in the video was correct although inconclusive. I totally agree with the video that the Standard of English in some (in fact majority) of the teachers teaching science in my area (the state of Kelantan) is quite (really, perhaps) low, to the extend that they cannot convey the necessary facts to their students, in English. So in mine perspective, I would like the emphasis to be taken some how or rather, by the government, to be more on the standard of English, right from the educations of the said and future teachers who are presently teaching or going to teach the subjects in English. I also noticed in the present batch of so called “teachers” who can easily get a place in the local universities to study and get a degree to "up-grade" their so called status in schools so as to get a higher salary, rather than serving better to the student's education. This measure is like simply adding graduate teachers without really emphasizing on the real tusk the teachers who are supposed to carry towards upgrading their teaching (in the classrooms). I am not saying that their degrees are worthless but I feel the ways of getting the degrees are to easy (sorry to say that) without thinking of the needs and eventual outcomes of the usefulness of the degrees held in their hands. So by holding a degree which is merely to get a higher salary is a waste of the country's tax payers' money and the creation of a bleak young Malaysians' future (in education). Thank you very much.
1) Primary School - Focus on the foundation Maths, Reading and Writing 2) Secondary School - Focus on growing the knowledge base 3) College/Pre-university - Focus on understanding the knowledge 4) Degree - Focus on applying the knowledge 5) Masters - Focus on questioning the knowledge 6) Doctorate - Focus on creating new knowledge
PISA. As a secondary school student, I agree with most of the context in this video. I'm looking forward to your future videos about our education system. Videos like these are great methods of raising awareness. Just some extra points that I'd like to add: Parents play an important role in early education. 1. We can't expect children to fully learn something on their own. 2. Parents should fill the knowledge gap that was created in our early education system, instead of fully relying on the teachers ability. Furthermore, we as students should read books and articles a lot more (even though I'm not a bookworm) as it helps in understanding content and learning new words.
I am one of the batch '05 students that took UPSR and SPM but not PT3. I am currently taking my diploma in a stem subject and I agree with that he said about changing stem subjects to English have widen the gap between urban and rural students. In university I learn all of my subjects in English. I was lucky to be born in KL and I learnt my math and science stream subjects in English. However I can't say the same for my classmates who come from rural areas of the country. I can see that even some of them who got straight As in SPM were struggling. Not because of them not understanding the concepts. They didn't understand how to explain it in English because during their SPM they either took their subjects in Malay or their teachers themselves were struggling in teaching them in English. This becomes an issue when the lecturers are all teaching in full English so they might not understand it too well. Most of the time as soon as I explain it to them in Malay they instantly understand it. So in short, I think the whole issue is that the ministry of education must talk about the importance of English in our education. I'm not saying we should change the whole syllabus to English but we need to show the importance of English in our lives
I was told that even lawyers who are trained in Malaysia are not proficient in English. They have problems producing legal documents and arguing cases in courts in English. They may be able to rely on the admin department to provide an appropriate legal document but they are on your own in court. It is not uncommon to witness a case whereby a lawyer who's graduated from an overseas university articulating his/her points well but the locally trained lawyers rebutting in Malay and their body language clearly show the difference in their performance and confidence.
No, you're wrong if you said that the problem is come from the teachers. Trust me, semua lantikan guru-guru tetap ni mostly knowledgeable and passion with their career. Sebenarnya masalah bermula daripada bebanan kerja guru tu sendiri. Siapa yang jadi cikgu faham la. Bayangkan only 20%-30% sahaja kerja mengaajar student. Selain daripada tu semua kerja2 yg tiada langsung kaitan dengan PdP. Macam mana lah nak fokus mengajar elok-elok kalau kerja mengajar pun limited. Cikgu lah kerani, ketua program merepek itu ini. They just want to teach students.
This is the TRUTH. During my practicum, one older teacher told me the system has changed so much. She told me that back then, after she finished prepping for class and marking the books, she even had time to kopek bayam in the office to later cook at home. But now, there is just too much clerical work, programs, data entry, and PBD etc that she has to work all day and can't even sleep much at night every day. It is that bad. The statement "teachers doing the work related to teaching (preping, marking) is about 20%-30% and the rest is a lot of nonsense work" is true. Things really need to change or else, it is not possible for teacher to focus on teaching.
True, as a student, I know how most of my teachers are passionate about teaching but most of the time they were abcent for a bunch of ridiculous stuff hosting this hosting that going forward trip this trip just so many excuses I tell you that my math teacher had already been absent for 2 weeks without teaching not bc she's sick or whatsoever but bc of another thing that doesn't have to do with PDP. My mom always said that the old teacher during her time was the best, I want the opportunity to be able to learn without having this useless program. One more thing is that I honestly think it was a great idea to study math and science in English even if it wasn't the best way as he said, but it was better than nothing bc than this student has to struggle to understand and push themselves years out from comfort zone. I hope the Ministry of Education will do something to improve education in Malaysia.
As a 15 years old highschooler i agree that our education system is broken. The negligence of upsr and pt3 make students believes that they only jave to worried about SPM. Not to mention the fact that allowing 13 years old to start using calculator is already a problem at the end of it self. In my opinion we have to expose to students about algebra in early stages like 12 years old instead of 13. Right now completing a math question felt like a chore but it shouldn't be that way it should be fun. There is something broken in our teaching system because these days i cant even see 12 year olds doing simple multiplication like 5 x 9 .Maybe a reward base system could encourage students to do better. Day by day going to school actually felt like going to work and pressured to become the the best or better. Also I would like to add that when students are interested or wanna know more some teachers shut them down by telling "oh juts ask your parents or Google it" when the things are about their teaching subjects. Sometimes when we get our answers wrong the teacher did not encourage us to be better instead they would say stuff like "don't waste my time if you are not getting it right" or "if you fail or pass I still get paid".
Language is a very sensitive issue. A better (more sensitive) approach is to offer English stream schools and "vernacular" stream schools, and let parents choose which to send their kids. If you, as a parent, believe that English will give your children an advantage, then you will choose English schools. But if you believe your child should have a good basis in their "mother tongue" then you might choose to send your child to a Bahasa or Mandarin School. Forcing ALL schools to be English when the schools and the teachers are NOT ready, is as you note, a recipe for failure and frustration. Over time, parents will choose, and the education system will evolve. In Singapore, initially there were non-English Schools, but parents realised that English offered their children an advantage in Life and over time, all schools in Singapore are English stream. (There are also schools offering Higher Chinese for students who are competent in Mandarin, but that's another story). But yes, a good basis (i.e. good, competent teachers) is critically essential for a good education system. And the system must be in place before trying new things. Mahathir, as usual, wanted things to be as he sees it, instead of seeing things as they are and responding to it. (But that is his failure, and another story).
Nanyang University whose medium of instruction was in Mandarin "died" as students preferred to go to NUS as English educated NUS graduates had better career prospects. All the Government has to do is to give parents a choice. Market forces will prevail, and we will know what parents actually want for their children.
As a westerner living in Pasir Gudang , I am not allowed to teach English to Malaysian students because I am in my fifties . Think about it ! 50 plus years of a Native American speaker living in Malaysia but having to teach English online to Chinese , Turkish , Saudi Arabian students because my experience is not allowed in Malaysia. This kind of thinking is what traps Malaysian culture from improving in the global marketplace. In my opinion. Respect given to the other commenters about the vast systemic racism within the country.
In all the schools that I have been to, it's a fact that many teachers don't enter class to teach and if they do, they are mostly on their hp. You can also see them playing their hp during assemblies and invigilations. The teachers are mostly unqualified. You can find quite a number of them being late, not entering class
This is true as hell. Even the teachers are not well disciplined, yet they expect their students to do the same. Ironic. they are also more daring, just because theyre a teacher they can slap the students anyhow they want. and act like they own the place,
My education was fully in government school in a ‘sekolah prestasi tinggi’ (high performing school). Only students with 5As from UPSR could enter. We had a small student to teacher ratio (1:20), the best teachers from the surrounding area, good funding - all the makes of a good education system. I got straight A1 in my SPM, and so did many of my classmates. Many of us went on to get scholarships to study abroad in medicine, engineering, business, law, etc. I reckon this is proof that the Malaysian education system can work well if given the right conditions, but I also realise that this is an exception rather than the norm. How do we replicate this successful model to the rest of the country?
You are lucky. There were many more with straight As in UPSR but not given the opportunity. If not Malaysia would have produced a lot more talented professionals.
The world is becoming borderless and the environment has become complicated. So, if the quality drops, we actually have to look at more angle for the causes. Students are exposed to different media and people. Teachers used to be able to focus on teaching because they were not burdened with paperwork. The reason for the poor quality of students: 1. An increase in tuition centers and child care centers that focus on profit. Students are not focused in school because they feel that there is a tutor who will help them. Lack of self effort to excel in education. 2. Politician's own agenda. Many policies are made without being evaluated as a whole. 3. Policy makers who never go to the field. They enact policies that are still not compatible with the available facilities. 4. Parents. now likes to blame the teacher so that the child can't be scolded or fined if he doesn't do school work.
my daughter was pretty upset and fedup with the schooling system. she mention that none of the student actually knew about PISA exams and what it meant. Yes, teachers are either under pressure from the consistent changes by MOE and my understanding is that either teachers are bored, lack psychological training, unmotivated which leads to a very monotonous class. Example History class which puts students to sleep. the lack to gain the attention of the students causes the subject to be least absorbed. Sejarah is a story and it should be an exciting story with both sides of the class interacting. i remember sitting through 1hr 30 mins.. teacher writing on the black board it was so boring that i decided to drop Sejarah back then 30+ years ago. i slept through 90% of the sejarah class. so the world is changing fast, kids today learn differently and so the method the teachers bring forth the knowledge needs to be revamped. I looked through the Sejarah text book and it is very unappetizing. who every decided to author the contents and the way the information is placed into the text book needs to be changed! big change is needed. not just talk but real action!
Speaking from a parent's heart, education is the best gift you can give to your child. Sadly, I foresee not much hope for significant change in the next decade. If you are a parent, do your due diligence; there is nothing that can't be learned from the internet, and a parent is still the best teacher for your children.
As a Chinese Malaysian student, I’d like to say something… I have some friends who are very bad at their academics. But it’s not always their fault that they’re not learning better. It’s not the problem with the teachers either. (I know that since my mum is a government school teacher). It’s just that there are not much teachers that have the patience to actually get a students with bad grades to excel. Teachers are tired from paperworks and meetings and grading books and some of them don’t have the motive to ACTUALLY teach?! But don’t blame teachers, technology is a part of Malaysia’s edu system’s downfall. Apps like RUclips and TikTok are affecting students grades and time management is nono good. So, some students have LEARNING PROBLEMS. But there are only learning aids for students who CAN’T SPEAK MALAY or MATHS NO GOOD. My friend is one of those who can read Malay and is not bad at Maths but he has a learning disorder. He just can’t sit still and listen. And he can’t learn. Communication is an essential part in learning, if you can’t communicate or listen, it’ll be very hard to understand. I study in a Chinese school and some students there are Malay, Indian or Orang Asli. Only a few can use Chinese fluently, while some others are very good at English or Malay. If you are a student you notified about the education news, you might know that your Malay and Sejarah have to pass if you want to skip Pre-Secondary level to Form 1 (Malay only) and pass SPM (Malay and Sejarah). But it doesn’t really help with the communication barrier. Like I said, some non Chinese also study in Chinese school but some core subjects like Chinese, Maths, Science and Sejarah (Yes, it’s a core subject now) is learnt in Chinese in Malaysian Chinese Primary Schools. Well, this are just some stuff I observed as I student in Primary School and a son of a Primary teacher. I am turning 11 this year and hope our education system will improve.
Totally agreed. (1) Teachers are the main problem. You go to any neighborhood SMK and observe how they teach. You will vomit blood. Some teachers dont even come to class, cited pregnancy as the reason. (2) The parents! Many parents from rural areas don't pay attention to their kids' education. If you ask public Malaysians on the streets to perform simple calculations on fractions or percentages, not many are able to do it.
when i was in school, pendidikan moral for form 4 and form 5, teacher didnt come to class at all....she showed 1 time for first week, and then when there was a complaint our class sgt bising, so she appeared like a wild pokemon scolded us, but when i questioned here why she dont come to class, she just told me she was busy and dont ask so many questions. WOW. So my kids are going to be sent to private school because i cannot trust malaysian education system.
I don't think you really believe the situation can improve else you would have not send your kids to international school. The education will only get worst if the education ministry only worries about shoes and shirt.
Thank you for sharing! The awareness of poor education system must reach from top to bottom. In this case, Malaysia probably one generation behind developed country.
Why am I not surprised that the minister gave a stupid answer. Giving excuses is the best these fellas can do because no government servants get fired. Even if they take bribes or underperform they will only be transferred but they will still have a secured employment.
I'm from the national school and later got into national boarding school. Scored full As from UPSR, PMR & SPM. Received full scholarship to study engineering in Canada. Currently working for national oil and gas company. You can achieve anything if you really work hard for it regardless of which school that you go.
This! If you're a brilliant students nothing is gonna stop you from succeed academically. I went to both daily & boarding schools (rural schools)...you can expect resources very limited. Growing up as B40 family member, not much resources also. But I was able to get 11As.
I work hard and studying a lot for my SPM so I can study at university but only ended up with okay results. Now I study at vocational school for diploma with the rest of kids with bad SPM results. Working hard doesn't really guarantee anything. Stop giving false hope.
@@frog6054 To score in exams, one must be smart too, not just hardworking alone. Nowadays, a person with a diploma and skill may earn more than a degree holder.
There are so many possible improvements that, in my opinion, could be tackled, like for example: 1. Dead-end job teachers. This has been the way it is for a while, and our children are paying for it. Doesn't help that it's not a very high-income job for government schools, and there is the issue of many teachers having lots of children, just to get maternal leave. Schools could have gotten more substitute teachers at least. Saw this a lot, among my younger siblings especially. 2. Biased education. Most of History class, during my time at least, avoids a lot of dark aspects of history to stroke the ego of our nation. I mean, do any of you know that Dato Maharajalela traded slaves? I didn't either before leaving school. 3. Lack of focus on vocational schools. This was, ironically, actually a topic brought up in KOMSAS (BM Literature), yet it still remains a big problem for those who are less academically inclined. Even me, as a hands-on type of guy, did consider going, but didn't go for it due to the lack of prestige attached to it. 4. Lack of racial integration. Apart from the obvious issue of vernacular schools (which is its own can of worms), from personal experience, it's actually not common to see "1Malaysia" friend groups in school. Most people are only friends with their own race to be honest. These are just some of the problems wrong with our education system, and it's no wonder why those with the money opt for private schools.
My daughter is in MMU. She just told me UM law students can bring scripts into the exam room. During my time,the results in School certificate were published in the newspaper. Getting Division ONE didn’t qualify me to continue A level in government school. The system is self destruct; but blaming on others for own failure.
When Malaysia put more emphasis in religious study and neglect the advance language ‘English’, Malaysia will still be ‘rowing the sampan’ for years to come.
Bruh English proficiency in Malaysia is already good compared to the rest. You must be too dumb to think that english is so important considering the dominance of west has been exposed and declining. It doesn’t indicates intelligence as a whole whatsoever. What we need is an integrated system that is effective. The problem is we cant even integrate well due to citizens who can’t even communicate in the basic national language. ultimate failures. Living in denials within in their own shells. Everybody is working in silo with different identity and worse some identity is foreign to this land.
Why busy body about other people religions? Mind your own religion la, no one even bzbody your guys religion, not like we forced u guys to learn Islam or Christian lessons. The main problems, not only the unqualified teacher assessing the subjects, that’s not even their profession in the 1st place. But also the syok sendiri silibus by KPM, which even the math question they gave to SK students, same level as form 5 old batch lesson. This just show, you dont know the real issues, more less I bet you didn’t even have family who at age primary schools right now.
this has no basis whatsoever. As a matter of fact, Islamic Religious schools are the top scorers in SPM. You could check the ranking, I dare you. The main problem is basically we got citizens who cant integrate well with society, don't even have the basic knowledge of this country and its national language. It is a well recipe for disaster in the future, a time ticking bomb.
Just sharing my personal experience, I work in the biological sciences research sector, so I can only comment on my field. I had the opportunity to teach both Malaysian and Singaporean interns in my job. Yes, I'm sorry to say that the quality of graduates from Malaysian Universities, even some from as prestigious as Universiti Malaya, was seriously lacking even when compared to Singaporean Polytechnic graduates. Language barrier is of course an issue as Singapore's teaching medium is in English, so the Singaporean interns naturally have an advantage in an international setting, especially in sciences. But one thing that made me seriously question the integrity of Malaysia's higher education system is the lack of practical skills. Most of the interns that I taught seem like they have never used or even held the basic scientific tools we used for our jobs a day in their lives. It felt like the Malaysian universities were just pumping them full of theory lessons with no practical application and hoping that they would pick it up when they entered the workforce. I'm sorry but that's not how things work in my field, and I seriously hope Malaysia will reform their education system if they want to remain competitive.
As a language instructor, my advice is to conduct language drill for all levels..sounds good and natural. In school, teachers should provide sufficient opportunities for group presentation and QnA.
1. To attract more capable teachers, the govt needs to allocate more budget to merit-based salary benchmarks. 2. Its better to give individual schools more autonomy as they are the ones closer to the ground. Recruit much more capable principal/headmaster to steer the schools and teachers. 3. I agree. Language is not the main problem. China n taiwan teach in chinese, and there are still many top students here.
Decided to homeschool my kid so that she doesn't have to waste time in school like I did previously. Now my girl is studying in USA with a scholarship.
Fadhlina Sidek should absolutely be blamed. Yes the rot didn’t happen under her watch, but we don’t see ANY solutions from the PH administration besides non sequiturs like black shoes and Palestine week. And she dismissed parents’ concerns with “Jangan bising, Jangan usik”. Absolute rubbish.
Medium of instruction to English would settle the problem. It helps to be a global citizen and would definitely boost tourism as well. Just my 2 cents.
PISA might not be the best comparison but Malaysia is the only country i know where you can find an old Lady in a remote village and talk with her in English but her grandchildren coming to visit her after school do not understand English… my daughters English teacher at a PT meet apologised that her English is not so good
If only maintain the English language medium we will not like this Because student can read all the material available around the worlds to be better student But malay We have to depend on the intellect of existing so call experts to translate who are mostly slanted by Islamic cause
Syllabus especially maths need serious review, instead we are focusing on what uniform to wear. Announce like it's huge? Teachers also under dilemma, the stress results in non-performing. Why abort the exams?
Education system is long overdue for an overhaul. The fact is no one learn things the same way and same pace. Why are we trying to fit everyone into the same box.
What Pete says about our teacher quality is true. I am one of those who has been taught by good quality teachers who is on their way to retirement, and new group of young teachers. The passion and gap of quality between these two are so huge, that some of those experienced teachers can teach without even looking at the books, and they can answer whatever questions asked by students. On the other hand , the young ones just read all the texts in the books, and are often unable to give answers to questions asked. And yeah they got pregnant every 1-2 years.
I was told the teachers university in tg malim does not tolerate any student who fail in order to achieve its KPI. If the student fail, the lecturers will be punished instead. So everybody pass. There is no incentive really for students to study and improve. Upon graduation, they are assured of a teaching job. And the entire downward cycle continues. Hence our declining PISA scores.
Young teachers can be good if they work hard for their teaching in the 1st 5-6 years. The problem is they are burdened with stupid pointless programs that hampered their growth. All these pointless prog takes so much time & effort, to the point teachers can't even focus on their pupils.
You do realise that those experienced teacher who can teach without looking at books actually need time to read, analyse the textbook, modify the content to suit pupils' level, creating own worksheet or saving any worksheet from other teachers, building up materials etc..these can take years.. some young teachers nowdays busy with making decoration, doing the management work, doing laborer work: all because pentadbir yg suka menyusahkan, added with teaching, aannd family..you think its easy to juggle everything..
Ngl, one thing the Gov could do to improve our education system a little bit is to change the require compulsory subjects to get the SPM certificate. For now, the 2(and only 2,sadly) compulsory subjects that are needed to be pass in order to get the SPM cert r BM and Sejerah. But the flaw here is, even if you scored perfect marks for subjects like English, Maths, Akuan or any Science subjects, you still won't get the SPM cert if you don't pass BM and Sejarah. While I have no problem with BM being a compulsory subject(it is our national language afterall), I do find it weird that Sejarah was made compulsory but not actual useful subjects like English, Maths or Science. Like sure, we get learn our nation's history and all but how does that make it more important than stuff like English and Science? That pretty much means that you can be the most (No Offense btw) braindead student in English or Science, but if you pass BM and Sejarah then you automatically will get the SPM cert. Like, am I the only one who finds that very weird?
I'm not saying that Sejarah isn't important, no no, but rather all I'm trying to say here is to make more beneficial subjects compulsory. Maybe that would improve the quality of our education and overall workforce
I also found it weird that you only had to pass the mandatory subjects that obtain your SPM cert. I wonder if it will cause some students to neglect other subjects that are crucial in the real world to some extent since they just need to pass the two subjects. The teachers of both subjects keep emphasize that failing their subject means failing SPM and no cert unless you retake it.
well in the current age being and influencer and work for gig economy pays more then the usual doctor, lawyers, etc and u dont need a degree, no shit kids will be more attracted to that
Students nowadays do not read. They tend to skip questions that require reading and tembak saja especially if they do not care about the outcome. The same students can be excellent in Final Year exams because they see these exams are more important than this Piza exam and they are right to think so.
Batch 99 here, we are the first to experience PT3 after PMR was abolished in 2014. I still remember at that time the teachers in school were shambles because even they don't know what language we will be using in class either BM or BI😂
With nothing short of absolute due respect and with no malice or ill-thoughts whatsoever, and since this video clip is touching on the very essence of why Malaysia failed miserably and pathetically in the recent PISA score, based on the fact that this RUclips video clip will be circulated worldwide, may I humbly suggest that Mr Money himself brushes up his L2 spoken English in his next video clip on RUclips/Tik Tok/FB etc. Thank you.
Hai, the stats of teacher trainee applicants (at around 8:33) were from 2010-2012 tho. In fact, the July intake for 2012 (the one on the right) already shows a significant increase in top academic performers being offered a place in the teacher training institute. Not to say that being a top academic performer is all that makes a good teacher, but just wanted to point out that you should be more cautious when interpreting and presenting data in an unbiased and reliable manner :)
Another point to add to why teachers quality is affected.... Teachers also have to do admin works and all the other works in school which is supposed to be given to another person.
Singaporean here. My observations are that those Malaysians that came over here to work are really bright and well qualified and hardworking. However English is their weakness. Most that came here are also of a minority race if you catch my drift 😂
1) Senang sahaja. Ikut sistem jiran kami, SG, one of the top PISA scorers. 2) Keep politics out of education 3) Let experienced teachers run the education system, including the Minister of Education. Keep bureaucrats and politicians out 4) To attract the best teachers, we need to adjust salary scale to be on par with private sector or better 5) Promotion based on merits 6) Take religion out of school syllabus or the most one class only per week.
i would say malaysian education was a success that allowed me to work and live overseas. appreciated every slap that i got from teachers that actually motivated me to stay focused. factory resets are necessary sometimes.
This had been said since the 1990! Nothing changed or most probably nothing can be changed already! Rotten to core! Talented teacher & students most had moved to Singapore & Private, the left-over are half-baked teaching suku-baked!
Agree that this sentiment is repeated for past 30 years plus. Everyone hoping that this will change for the better. Many parents will be risking the future of their children. Hence their children go through an alternative education system. Will this ever change soon?
Apart from teachers, there are other issues about the subject taught in the government school system. Malaysian history classes are nothing but cerita dongeng? Religion subjects should be kept out of school systems. If they want to practice religion, they should learn in the mosques, temples, churches, etc. We should keep religion and politics out from school and let the student learn what is important to build the nation future, not learning more useless subjects that serve no purpose but syok sendiri.
I agree, but religious classes can be important for those who aspire to become a religious teacher in the future, the knowledge is crucial knowing that malaysia is a "majority muslim" country (Not a muslim country). But its pitiful how even PSV and RBT subjects in school are useless. PSV is taught by a teacher who cant do art, and English is taught by a teacher who can't speak a full sentence of English in class. embarassing. this is not implied to every teachers, but most of them are like this
@@ryoutacooks Education is one thing, the other things are those not in education profession becomes the current leaders. Do you trust them making the right judgement in subjects they aren't familiar with? Promoting them based on race and not based on qualification certainly is questionable. Imagine building a bridge millions depends on to drive or walk every day, or going to a medical doctor and their first word they utter is "Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem", I'll probably be the first to walk out the door. ;-)
@@hykok Nah, nothing wrong with uttering bismillah. It basically just means "in the name of Allah". Yeah but malaysia can definitely improve in choosing their leaders. Although its actually impossible cause corruption in malaysia is inevitable. however, Religion isnt the problem. I give u an instance, dr nisha graduated from Madrasah wak tanjong in Singapore. And now she is a yale postdoctoral researcher. there are lots of madrasah alumni who graduated and entered a good University. It's always about the education and clearly malaysia isnt the best at handling it
Masa zaman sekolah dulu, I would always wonder kenapa setiap hari mesti akan ada beberapa cikgu yang takde di sekolah. Bila dah jadi cikgu, baru faham hahaha. Every day, mesti akan ada cikgu yang involve dengan some sort of workshop, meetings, ataupun tugas² lain seperti bawak pelajar ke pelbagai jenis pertandingan. Jadi, sebelum complain tentang keberadaan guru, mungkin kena check dulu the reasons for it. Kemudian, sometimes bila ada shortage of tenaga pengajar for certain subjects, guru luar opsyen terpaksa terjun bidang. Contohnya, kalau di sekolah tu tak cukup guru Bahasa Inggeris, guru yang sedia ada (yang opsyen nya bukan Bahasa Inggeris) kena fill in that spot sambil menunggu pengganti masuk. Hence, wujudnya masalah that you mentioned; guru tidak knowledgeable dan passionate. Dia bukan tak pandai, tapi dah bendanya luar bidang, payah la nak mengajar. Kena buat banyak revision. 😅 Satu lagi perkara kita kena consider, sesi pembelajaran dan mengajar bukan satu hala. It takes two to tango. Kadang² bila pelajar memang dari awal dah give up, payah untuk guru² nak pastikan the right learning occurs. And often times, it's hard to blame the students entirely due to their socio-economic background. Banyak lagi yang boleh dibincangkan tapi setakat ni dulu for now. Harapnya kita semua dapat mendengar pendapat dari semua pihak, dan come up with feasible and effective solutions.
It is good that you share the issues faced by teachers and the education system. Ideally, each class has an assistant teacher to help so that interruptions in lessons are minimised.
One of the main problems might be language Many students in malaysia can't even speak proper malay (i'm not rlly good but average) So students who can afford private schools just decide to go there since it'll be easier. plus speaking as a student most of what the curriculum teach us here is just how to memorize sh!t so you pass your exams and unecessary stuff. so basically unless your parents/ teachers put extra effort into preparing actual material or you go to some tuitions,You're screwed for middle school.
This is true. When I was still in primary and secondary school,everything's just copy and paste exactly what we're taught. A slight altering of anything and you might get marked wrong for the answer
I'm one of the first batch of '04 students that took UPSR, PT3 and SPM with the new and updated formats, and I'm currently in my bachelor's degree. All I can say is that the new exam format is already good, and yes the teachers play a big role in how students understand what they've learnt in class. Now that the 2 out of 3 crucial exams in Malaysia are abolished, I see students' grades plummeting. It went viral on tiktok too with teachers showing how their students nowadays answer exam questions, very rude and very influenced by today's social media trends. Those "sebab boleh dik" as their asnwers are very insane. Thank you for making this video! This made me want to do my best in my Bachelor's Degree in TESL to be one of the teachers that Malaysia really needs.
It's much worse when the students aren't reminded of the importance of these exams.....PT3 and UPSR existed to get a better assessment on children and giving them options that suits their abilities. Nowadays, students especially form 2s dont care about writing the right answer, and some straight-up wrote racist answers influenced by political propaganda trends on tiktok....This is what plummeted our education standards all because of that Radzi Jidin aka. Nobita's headmaster. Its deeply concerning, and they can't just make stupid experimental policies which CHANGES based on administration its sooooo dumb and waste of resources
true true! batch '06 here and I took upsr and sadly pt3 was abolished. With upsr , I'm able to somehow continue and understand f1-2 better and without pt3 I was suffering in f4/5 but too late dy spm started already for me so I can only fix and move forward ~
Malaysian schools should cultivate the habit of retaining students, at least when pt3 and upsr are removed. instead of making them move forward and do national exams without being prepared.
..... one of the first batches ..... When you say one of.... it means there are two or more and you are picking one. So, one of the houses, one of the the cars, one of the groups, etc.
@@joachimlai1332 it really doesnt matter
Why are we even surprise with our country's education system. Instead of really focusing on educating the future generations, our ministers are more keen to change the syllabus, change the language used to teach science subjects and also change the dress code of the students. the same thing kept happening every 5 years when there is a new education minister
so true man i always talk about how changing the syllabus was a terrible option as it literally makes students do worse on average and its literally making our country’s students seem dumber than they actually are its sad to see
Yes each new education minister seems to have a new pet peeve of his own- to mention one- black shoes. It’s because the education ministers are selected on their lack of intelligence and kow towing attitude to the current pm.
But honestly, I agree the minister to change the current syllabus as the content is not age appropriate. Is way too difficult for the student to understand ( especially early primary , eg. std 1-3). But, of course, the quality of the teacher is also a problem where they are not prepared to teach the "HOTS" questions to the student... so, they just ask the student to just copy. that's very sad ~!
@@鱼儿-s8ythat's pretty screw up 7-12 year should just able to speak and read 2-3 languages at local level and do basic calculation not chasing A's.
Bukan sejarah pun di sabotage
My youngest brother corrected his schoolteacher by stating that Siem Reap is actually in Cambodia and not Thailand but got lambasted and his schoolteacher insisted that Siem Reap is in Thailand - just shows the quality there. On a serious note, it's just the school system. I was only educated in the local school for 4 years and when I came back to Malaysia, I can see the vast differences - the ability to be critical, think for ourselves, the courage to express our views, evaluate thgs, love for knowledge etc were all missing. It's all about impressing busybody aunties and strangers with empty-shelled grades here.
yeah... LIM KWAN YEW is me favorite subject...
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Government should really start investing more in education and have better standards in hiring teachers. I remember getting through PT3 and SPM relying on textbooks, and activity books with answer schemes because the teachers are either not teaching or absent. I didn't go to tuitions because they cost a lot. Books were enough to help me get straight As in both exams, and that's another problem. I only know how to sit for exams and regurgitate what I've read, not that I'm actually knowledgeable. Fortunately, I'm learning better in university now, I'm still learning independently (through the internet) but at least now I can apply, thanks to all the assignments, projects and practicals.
You left out a big elephant in the room. Race based politics that resulted in race based discrimination in education system.
All the head scratching is for show only.
Yes. Left out the most important thing.. and this guy is scared of ppl condemn his view and don't dare to mention race base politics
Everyone knows, but if he speak he's in trouble.
Tanah ini milik siapa? 🫢
@@FreakyShirley tanah melayu la. Hidup melayu. Keris dijunjung tinggi. Jangan cabar
In my opinion, one of the reasons why our teachers nowadays is not really good as before is due to the subject that was assigned to them to be teaching… I have a few friends who graduated as a teacher and major in Sastera but then was assigned to teaching in Math… therefore, at the end, they just teach what was showed in the textbooks and sometimes don’t even master it on that subject… that is based on my friend situation… I think it’s one of the factors…
I heard of many teachers who are asked to teach English even when they aren't qualified and not trained as English teachers.
Also my friend knew teachers who marked SPM papers and you will be shocked to know the passing score for Maths & Add Maths. It's unbelievable and no wonder many goats A* in SPM but perform badly in college and unis.
I not smart but i pretty sure there's a book how to teach maths especially at elementary level.
@@vister6757 its 30 or sumtin,maybe less than 15,my friend jokingly said that anyone who didnt pass math in spm either have to be lack of chromosome or just fell asleep as soon as they get the paper
Same situation like Economics graduate was assigned to head the MOH ministry coincidentally invented Rojak Vaccination.
Language is not a problem.
As a Chinese independent high school student, I was taught in Mandarin all the way until UEC (equivalent to STPM) for all STEM subjects. We primarily converse in Mandarin but we also learned English seriously. After UEC, a lot of us have come to Singapore for university (NUS/NTU, check their rankings), including me. We are doing very well here, way above average in terms of academics and some of us even have topped the class with First Class Honours and Dean's List.
The truth is, language should not matter in STEM education. The teachers matter. We are really fortunate to have these dedicated teachers at Chinese independent high schools that really cared about our learning or we will never achieve what we have today.
It's a shame that our politicians make race and language an issue when it really is not. Don't blame the language and fix the root cause of the problem.
It is not just about exam results. Sense of belonging and history as well. If you can’t speak the national language, you are already a failure. We can’t risk having citizens who can’t even communicate with the rest. In times of war, an ultimate disaster.
I agree
Do you know that "they" and "us" are marked and graded under different BELL CURVE? And before exams they have tutorial classes where the questions and answers are given?
You are fortunate to have encountered good teachers in Chinese Independent School.
The challenge is succession of such good teachers, without good succession the next he will be doomed
among the less competitive students , there is a serious problem as they can't hold a reasonable conversation in English or Bahasa. And I realized this group is not small!
It's not the problem of early education or teachers.. It's the mentality of beloved policy makers that sabotaged the education system, government employment system for political gains.. It had been 'twisted' so badly that it might take decades to straighten back only IF they willing to..
As for language, we always hear terms like Perkasakan Bahasa hailed by politicians.. But they happily sending their own generations overseas to study which obviously in other language.. At the end, perkosakan our generations.. Sadly, there are still some Ultra M that live in the state of denial again and again..
Cut short: Rubbish In.. Rubbish Out
I found it easier to understand and remember SPM's science course in DLP compared to in Bahasa Melayu, I speak Malay and took it in Malay. There's obviously some problem in the translation and explanation in our textbook. Not to mention most of it were directly translated to Bahasa from English, which as we know isn't ideal especially when it comes to education.
This is just in my opinion and perspective; Or maybe I am just an oddball. Sure, there's certain concept that's easier to grasp when explained in Malay, but these textbooks were structred using English sources and by English scholars. There ought to be words and terms that is better explained in English.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have Malay in science courses. After all, who's gonna use the language when not even the citizen of the country itself use it? We need to strengthen and put more care into writing science textbook in Malay. Add more words to the dictionary and write more definition to unknown terms. Give those words (in Bahasa) more exposure to the public so they can prepare themselves to learn those unfamiliar terms.
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I totally agree
@ptaeiy DLP stands for Dual Language Programme. Basically, there is two language you can choose to learn science & maths subjects, English or Malay.
What I meant by DLP in my comment earlier is the English programme, since its' logo are only printed on the English course.
Some subject that's included in the programme are:
1) Science
2) Additional Science
3) Physics
4) Chemistry
5) Biology
6) Maths
7) Add Maths
@@user-28qhfk65 You're not alone my man , I also feel the same , I learned my STEM subjects in Bahasa , but i feel weird with the explanation , tbh i prefer the English one
@@user-28qhfk65 I found it the other way around; that is I found it easier to comprehend SPM STEM subjects in Bahasa Melayu as opposed to English. I'm assuming that you studied under an older syllabus (KBSM), since the textbooks were translated from its English counterpart as PPSMI policy ended so the default textbooks were in English pre-2012. But starting from the new syllabus, DLP books are the ones being translated from its Malay edition. I took A-Level which is obviously in English and still scored well enough. Thus coming to my point, I don't think that the language itself is the problem but instead the way they are being taught in schools. There are a lot of teachers that were asked to teach Science even though it's not their major. Having STEM subjects being taught in Malay is not a problem as PPSMI policy is considered a failure, that's why it's been abolished. As a matter of fact, in the Philippines, the ones that were English-taught scored lower in PISA than the ones who didn't. Sure, I'm not denying that it is easier to find English-based sources for Science subjects but that doesn't necessarily means that the pupils would have higher science literacy as it would require them to be proficient in English first.
I've to agree the point on having qualify teachers.
Embarrassingly, I failed my Physic for the entire year of Form 4, as low as 16 points. But in my Q2 Form 5, my parents sent me to a nearby tuition center. That part time tutor was good, he just a post graduate Utar student working for part time. Thanks to him, he manage to compress all Form 4 & 5 learnings in just few months. Easy to straightforward learning with him.
Manage to get an A for SPM. 😂
The right teacher, the right result.
I always failed math and the school put me in the science stream which was even more stressful with add math. Been made the laughing stock for the whole of form 4 because the add math and mod math teachers were spreading throughout the upper secondary that they wondered why I was put in the science stream when I can't even pass math during PT3. When I finally got the financial aid(my English teacher and principal personally tried to get me financial help since all of my scholarship applications were denied for years), I started to go for Mod math tuition near my house. Sadly, they didn't offer any other subjects besides English, Bahasa and Math since someone new took over and the previous teachers quit. Surprisingly I passed every subject I used to fail except accounts because the teacher sabotaged my kerja kursus and I didn't get all the necessary paperwork
When we have an education system that "passes" everybody even though they fail, meaning dropping the qualification or passing rate of focus this is seep into the future
60 percent can be an a nowadays.back in the seventies you must have more than ninety marks for an a .
PISA
It might be easy to pass but it's surely not easy to get an "A"
Passing mark very low for SPM.
3 decade and Malaysia still don't wanna change....maybe now trying
to be honest, it sounds sick that they still use covid19 as their reason in failing the Malaysia education system. I’m currently 21 years old, and I was the first batch in delaying my SPM because of the pandemic era. Let me tell you, the education system was failing even before the pandemic begins due to lack of knowledge and experiences from the high school teachers. I still remember the teachers don’t even understand the questions i asked from the syllabus, and even answer my questions without answering. But that doesn’t apply to all teachers, some are great, passionate and dedicated with teaching. And in their classes, everyone just seem to get along with them and scored great marks during spm. I can’t imagine if some of us don’t really have one single teacher that really motivate and guide us properly in studies, i think that’s why a lot of us prefer to go to tuitions despite high tuition fees.
low salaries among teachers is one of the factors
Actually after 1970 the government under mahathir started the teaching of most subjects in bahasa Malaysia and it started the decline of english. The start of the government flig flog in implementing teaching school subjects in bahasa throughout all these years produced all the present Kang Kong students even to Kang Kong professors. It's a bunch of sad events or stories, yet we always proud of " Malaysia boleh"😢
Yes, Dr Mahathir started the rot..he can't escape the fact that he was and still is to blame..he was the Education Minister in the 1970s..since he's still around and kicking, why not ask him to explain what he did that had caused this irreversible rot?? He must be held accountable!!
When even doctors arent paid well in gov, trying to pay teachers well is an even bigger hurdle
Wait for more than 5 yrs, HLP suddenly cancel the name and cant appeal.. The BOSS who withdraw the name said bcos later pakar speaks louder than her. With this kind of mentality, Malaysia cant go far.
Come to indonesia thai u will be paid better.. 😆😆😆
If you look Siti Mastura recent comment, you will know what kind of level our education is at. And the bitter pill to swallow is that if the gov change the language to english, many Malays will go crazy and said that the governemnt is anti malay and want to destroy bahasa. The PN party will use this as a bullet to gain support. Thus there will always be a stalemate in decision. Change it, and the next thing you know, PN will become the government and we can kiss goodbye to Malaysia. The malays need to wake up to understand that nobody is challenging them. We are all for education. But sadly they can't think critically that way. They only have the 1 way street thinking. It's either you are with them or against them because they are the majority.
it got nothing to do with medium of education. Many monolingual countries performed well in math and science, eg Korea, Japan, china, HK, taiwan and others.
somemore malay language doesnt have enough words by itself and it oftens borrow words from english anywhere and tried to malaylised it. You got to learn the english words also.
there are many issues resulted in the standard of education here. flip flop policies, teachers quality, parents dont care abt their children's education performance, parents care too much about their children education performance and removed them and placed in private schools and etc
Nah language aint the main problem
running away from staying the main issue just shows ya got no balls in life...kunyit bunch
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My friend sent me a job application for the UN. And I quote ‘they have had a lot of applicants but so far none of them have a good enough grasp of English for the position’… I declined coz I have no interest in being a bureaucratic hack. The position required a masters degree ‘from a reputable learning institution’ and fluency in English and BM. They had to extend the deadline.
PISA = PIZZA, delicious, sedap! But Malaysia kantoi.
Singapore uses the method of recruiting “crème de la crème” students. Give them scholarships. Bond them. Send them to the best universities e.g. Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, MIT. Come back to be teachers and paid well and comparable to architects, IT professional etc. School students are well taught because the teaches themselves are clever. Additional advantage is Singapore uses English as medium of instruction. Singapore uses budget allocation well for education. May be Malaysia can adopt some of these footsteps.
Singapore practises a meritocratic system.
Up until the late 70’s, school lessons in both Malaysia and Singapore were taught in English. Malaysia then changed over to teaching using Bahasa, while Singapore continued with using English as the medium of instruction. There were strong suspicions that the hidden agenda behind the Malaysian decision was to retard the progress of the Chinese. Now, it looks as if the decision has backfired, as it had retarded the learning of all students.
Dr Mahathir was the Minister of Education from 1974 to 1978. He was responsible for the changes..the ones who were heavily affected were the people of Sabah. In 1977 in Sabah, many Form 3 students who sat for their LCE exam failed their BM paper. BM was suddenly made mandatory to pass in the 1977 LCE exam in Sabah by the Ministry of Education. And that had to happen when it was the last year of the English medium of instruction in Sabah. Tun M must explain and perhaps, apologize to the people of Sabah. It was an extremely irresponsible move as Education Minister, back then.
You are not fit to be a Malaysian and you shouldnt be here at all.Best for you to migrate to Singapore
I’m a student, doing form 6
I have a problem in my school
Where my Economics teacher would enter the class at least 15 minutes late daily
And there were some cases where she would skip the lesson because she couldn’t understand the topic
And her classes will always be boring
whenever we don’t perform well for exams
She would tell us to drop out from form 6 and do something else
Reminded me of my form 4 history teacher, when she teach us, less than 10 students pass then she complaint why 30+ students failed when the less than 10 students can pass lmao the next year the other teacher teach us, but this time around it's less than 10 students failed while the new teacher also helped us picked up all form 4 chapters and around 20 students out of 44 students get A. I guess the result do slap that teacher loud and clear and eventually she can never teach student in form 4 and above especially people like us in IT class hahaha so fun when thinking back this shetty teacher but yea, you're very unlucky
wow, it's the worst, at least in my school, if the teacher was so busy or "couldn't understand the topic", they would just let the class be free and the students wouldn't care if they failed cause they got their own way to study and the teacher would also not scold them (that's actually a problem btw)
@@arihs1729 i think your teacher way is also not a very good way. Sad, why our school teacher specifically for me is SMK 1 why so bad 1
Yes this is common problem. Teachers are being pressured/forced to do topics that they are not good in due to the lack of quality teachers. When I went for my daughter's Parent teacher day, (SMJK school) I asked the teacher if she can speak to me in English cos I'm not fluent in Mandarin, she said, "OK, I'll try." That's not the problem. The problem is.... later when I asked her what subjects is she teaching, she said, "Moral and English." It was obvious she was below average in her English language proficiency, and I just feel sorry that she was forced to teach this subject.
Ik me too, untill this last semester 3 i dont even understand closely in economic subject bcuz of the teach he given were so boring. I had to try my best to get mid result every exam.
I want to simply add a point here... some parents are also a problem. They prefer their child to be in a "loving, stress free environment without any care in the world". Hence the school/teacher cannot even scold and reprimand their children, heck the parents would even do the child's homework for them(true story) and with the new (no national exam policy till form 5) there is no will for the children to study. So we are now breeding an even worse upcoming generation.
Yeah true, let these parents suffer the consequences some day, when children say to their faces, " Why didn't you tell me earlier!!, otherwise my life won't be this bad"
nope...its our school syllabus is shyt
My wife is preschool teacher in a government kindergarten. Actual teaching is less than 20% of her workload. She has to do clerical works, accounting, asset management, groceries purchasing for kids' meals, building maintenance as well as community engagement.
The core issue isn't the teachers themselves, its about not being able to even keep qualified people to wanna be teachers in Malaysia. The incentives simply isn't there, imagine being good at something but have to play the politics just to have better pay and opportunities.
These qualified teachers either open up a tuition center, teach at a private school or private chinese UECs, or go abroad to do something bigger than Malaysia in their area of expertise. Ngl, the last idea is quite popular ranging from the older generations to the younger ones like myself.
Edit: quality education in Malaysia has a hefty price tag based on the reasons stated above. Once they graduate, you best believe they have the money to leave the country.
I would say that even the teachers are overwhelmed. All our teacher in school have to handle extracurricular activites, patrol the school hall, and other stuff outside teaching.
Some teachers who studied in a certain field was also forced to teach in different subject than what they are expert in.
@@brandonchan4537 Yeah, I just grad from college and the lecturer literally had 3 different task aside from teaching (and they didn't volunteer at all) making them having less time to give more on students and researched, when I hear from them I admired them so much yet feel so sad cause they can't do what they want on class.
Headmaster and teachers are from religion school most of them just came back from Egypt or other part of Arab country approval by our government, it was mathatir who pull down our education by 20 years
We have the most passing rate in Asia when mathatir was the education minister, and it is sad most of them are send to Egypt and other part of Arab country to study religion these people come back and were send to national school throughout the country to be headmaster, headmistress and teachers, mathatir is the root cause of our education today
Finally, a level head comment instead of the usual lets blame the malays and NEP and all that crap.
When i finished high school 20 yrs ago, enrolling in a teaching college is reserved for those who really have no other choice, its either be a teacher or go work in a shop stocking shelves. As you can imagine, the quality of teachers are not great, and the law of proportionality dictates that we don’t get great students coming out of the education system.
Also, being a teacher is overworked, underpaid, and bleak career prospect in the current Malaysia. Their promotion is time based (8 years), Pensions are also gonna be taken away, et al. I really see no incentive whatsoever for any aspiring teachers.
i got straight A's for spm last year and applied for IPG. I didn't even passed the psychometric test lol. i think it's slowly improving and IPG even have program cemerlang things where they sent excellent spm students abroad. sadly last year they sent students to arabic country for agama/arab while my school didn't even offer arab language as a subject. i wonder why can't they just offer more option for these excellent students? not to mention that only spm students for that year are the only one that can apply. but it's still concerning, my mom are teaching in primary school and she told me that the practicums teacher that are major in TESL from KPTM can't even speak in front of students in class! those who graduated from IPG are not going to disappoint but those who aren't, i've lost for words... if they're given the position as a full-time teacher, we might see the same Malaysia again 💁
Did you try to apply as a substitute teacher?
@@someguywithabirdface2583 nah im currently taking diploma. thinking of applying MEXT for degree
That's why many, including malays send their children to venacular schools instead
You need to polish up on your English before facing any students.
PISA, everyone wants the best for their children, my parents were poor and I came from a non english speaking family and learning English competently was very difficult for me, I had to use a translation dictionary when I first started to take english seriously, then I spent one whole year reading news week, national geographic and keeping a word bank, while listening to ted talks to try to mimic their pronunciations. I would say the most important lesson they can teach you in school is how to be resourceful and learn on your own, education should be lifelong, knowledge is our most valuable asset that only aging can take it away from us
I listened to Eminem to practise my pronunciation 😂 and watched American comedies back then.
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They say the more rural it is, the worse it gets. Edu offices tell schools to give out at least a Band 3 for PBD because there shouldn't be any excuses for them not to. In truth, those students that do not belong in the mainstream class, should've been put into a special needs class. but imagine hearing people saying our children is in a special needs class, it would probably be deemed as something derogatory.
1. Education system does not emphasize on critical thinking. Govt abolished pmr/upsr with the right thinking of being less exam-oriented. But they failed to replace it with something else.
2. Teachers will always be unqualified. Need to improve the teacher training schools. Friends mentioned that it is trash.
3. A committee (govt, experts, ngos) should review through the education materials. Too much dumbing down and brainwashing.
4. Some teachers refuse english. Perhaps due to institutionalised racism. Pmx needs to send a clearer message on this. Interpret the constitution once and for all.
we don't encourage critical thinking and was always taught to go by the book since young. Sadly that results in the current state of our country as well where some people just couldn't see the bigger picture and resort to sweet talks by politicians
I beg to differ, curriculum nowadays actually "over- encourage" critical thinking, till they forgot students haven't master the basic skills yet.
@@kiat3457critical thinking is overrated
Those who are able to think critically will be able to think critically and those who unable to will never be able to do it
Sometimes it's not about the education system but people themselves
Some people will be always be smarter than others
It's getting worse. The content, pedagogy and system are all rigged.
@@kiat3457to master the skills students who need to work on it by researching deeper themselves in the subject taught, encouraging them to think and ask when facing difficulties. But the next question would be are the teachers prepared to guide, and help these students when they need it?
Our culture, which is a hodge podge of confucianism, islamic, and dharmic culture discourages critical thinking and encourages obedience. You can tweak and beat the syllabus to death with critical thinking, but if its in your cultural dna to not do so, we are really not gonna go far with it.
Case in point, i did my doctorate in the UK, and had to teach and train students, mix of undergrad and grads. I noticed that students from asian systems (india and china especially) had to be spoonfed to the last drop. They can’t really think for themselves like the westerners can (generally). If i throw a curveball, the chinese n indian students will usually be left dumbfounded and stuck, they can’t proceed. They’re great if you tell them exactly what to do, hard workers and very professional, going above and beyond, however, if its a new project and you need brainpower, i’d steer clear of graduates from asian schools.
When i came back to Malaysia i saw the exact same problem, and it cuts across the board with the ethnicities. So yeah, before we force feed the critical thinking to the kids, maybe we need a cultural revolution…
Every Malaysian RUclipsr videos I see and friends I spoke to all are critics of their system…
The smart and affluent parents knows it’s hopeless to say and do anything.
That’s why they send their children to overseas for education. Period…
Why is it hopeless
When news media interviews Malay community what they want from the government, the most common answer you hear is, we want to vote for the government who will give us more subsidies. A good government will have policies that improves the economic status and quality of life of their citizens that they do not need government subsidies to live a comfortable life. They would have received a good quality education and secured a good paying job, or has good business growth environmental to be profitable entrepreneurs. Examples of countries with competent governments are Singapore, Switzerland, Finland, etc. Their citizens are not looking for their government to give them subsidies because they don't need it. Their expectations of their government are at a much higher level.
I am 65 years old. We had a fantastic education system then. Now my family is always talking about the education every weekend when we meet. The language is the number 1. Dual what 😢. No wonder my family is going to International schools. So much of brain drain going on. The TEACHERS should be made responsible and passionate. My sister who was a teacher here later moved to Singapore and was amazed with their system. Why are we not sharing and learning from all the countries after the Pisa.
The moment they abolished the English medium of instruction, standard dropped and still dropping. Look at Singapore and Brunei, they still maintain their English medium of Education.
You do know that the marking and grading of students in Malaysia is based on race? The MM and NM are graded under different BELL CURVE 🔔 ... They are graded amongst themselves and you the NM amongst yourselves ... That's how good quality their students are and they're the ones to become the teachers in the local schools. That's why those parents (my friends) who knew this sent their children to overseas, Singapore or private schools. BTW 98.9% of their civil servants are their own people!
if you are saying that it is due to the teachers, it is totally wrong ! There are teachers from Gen X that is really committed. The main reason is the teachers are burden with the internal IT system that is not realiable and stable ie input the score into the grading system and the system is always hang. Hence the teacher has to stay up late until 3 am just to input the data. No enough sleep. Got to do clerical work. No 2 - too many ad-hoc that is not related to teaching. The children were left in the classroom due to teachers got to do the ad-hoc things. No 3 is changing the policy from time to time without referring to the teachers that are already at the ground. The minister and ministrial senior management are still looking the best for the nation but end up too many of them are just makan angin...or just NATO (No action talk only).
Thank you. Feel like Mr Money TV needs to go teaching for a few months. Have a try & let us know once it is over.
Programming and software immature due to corruption practicing when sourcing the IT products and sale after services.
Education basically every year score a very good budget provided by government expenditures , All money and planners has (politician) it agenda by purchased unqualified service providers and supplies the low or lower edition (which does not responding well in huge users). I T shall able to assist all the organization and company to concise the manual works and less time spending to do analysis and decision making.
@@seanchen9265 true... its very black and white... not indepth at all
Watched most of your video but this time I really can see you speak of your heart as a parent! Great video!!!!
Setuju dengan point awak. Guru tu yang paling penting selepas ibu bapa la of course, they are the first teacher, but in the school, the teacher plays a significant role in educating the children. Rindu zaman saya dulu di mana Cikgu adalah yang paling excellent dalam apa yang diorang ajar, dan itu memang pilihan mereka untuk menjadi pendidik. While sekarang menjadi Cikgu adalah pilihan, suatu kerjaya, nak expect apa kan? Setengah orang tu subjek yang dia ajar tu subjek minor degree dia, bukan subjek major dia pun 😢. Sedih betul la
masalah dia sekarang juga adalah cikgu2 yg bagus semua dapat offer pergi private yg lagi bagus duitnya compared to gov service
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I started work in SG since last month. I did visit SG government school and selling some school material. I found out their standard is way higher than MY and the facility is so much like an International school standard. So yes Malaysia education is a big failure.
FYI.. Singapore has the best PISA marks… Even the Aussies learn from them…
@@ruzainirazak85 Brunei too follows the Singapore School Syllabus and teaches in English!
For real
It all started when the English medium of education was abolished. Standard dropped and dropped and still dropping. The government emphasized too heavily on Bahasa - a very costly mistake.
Very true.All started from Tun M time .He was education minister during the 70s .He also made school not to speak in english.Should anyone speak english at that time we were made to pay 10 cents during 70s.Tun was the education minister.Most of the subjects were changed at his time to Bahasa. Later Tun wanted to change back to english ,he think easy..
@@shriyasanthirakaanthan3519 pay 10 cents due to speak eng in school??
I beg to differ, Tun M introduced PPSMI in 2003 but it were abolished in 2012. Why? Because it's considered a failure because when PPSMI were introduced, the grades for national exams dropped drastically. The language of instruction is not the problem.
Yes, Dr Mahathir, as he then was, was the Education Minister from 1974 to 1978. If you are a Sabahan born in the 1960s you would recall there were so many students failed their secondary school Form 3 LCE exam in 1977 because of one language subject ie BM which was, out of the blue, made it mandatory to pass by the Ministry of Education - unprecedented. Form 3 in the year 1977 was the last year of the English medium in Sabah (formerly known as British North Borneo). The question then was, why made BM paper compulsory for students sitting for their LCE exam in 1977 when it was the last year in English medium? Students studied in English for all their subjects from day one surely they were many students not ready for it as more time should have been given to them to be better prepared but shockingly, it wasn't. Many careers were 'killed' because many bright students did not get at minimum a pass in the BM paper, either oral or written. Students of well to do parents were lucky to be able to continue their secondary education in private institutions but the poor bright ones had no way to go. They were 'robbed' of a decent education at 15, 16 years of age. Many could have achieved their dreams of becoming what they had wanted to be - doctors, pilots, engineers, scientists, etc. but they dreams were destroyed. What the Education ministry did back then was unconstitutional and in breach of the MA63 but no one seemed to care, not even the Sabah CM, Datuk Harris Salleh because he was a 'Yes man'...and the rest is history. Since Tun M was the Minister of Education in charge in the 70s, perhaps, he should explain the logic, if any, behind such a sudden move, and/or apologise to the people of Sabah at the minimum because it was a very irresponsible act, to say the least.
Acknowledge UEC as that provides all the talent. Thanks.
What's wrong? Look at the facility in school. Not every class in every school has either an lcd projector or smart tv. That's just the basic for the modern education. Most school has 2 sessions. Only certain selected schools such as MRSM, SMS or other smart school has one session.Not to mention the gap between the facility in urban and rural schools.Internet access, latest books for students to read and refer. Yet, KPM(MOE) is too busy insisting HOTS to ALWAYS be included in lesson for kids as early as Primary 1 despite not able to master the basic skills or reading, writing and counting. Take a step back to progress forward.
I was a teacher teaching science in a secondary school before retired in 2015.
As I followed this video from the start till the end, I found out what was mentioned in the video was correct although inconclusive.
I totally agree with the video that the Standard of English in some (in fact majority) of the teachers teaching science in my area (the state of Kelantan) is quite (really, perhaps) low, to the extend that they cannot convey the necessary facts to their students, in English. So in mine perspective, I would like the emphasis to be taken some how or rather, by the government, to be more on the standard of English, right from the educations of the said and future teachers who are presently teaching or going to teach the subjects in English.
I also noticed in the present batch of so called “teachers” who can easily get a place in the local universities to study and get a degree to "up-grade" their so called status in schools so as to get a higher salary, rather than serving better to the student's education. This measure is like simply adding graduate teachers without really emphasizing on the real tusk the teachers who are supposed to carry towards upgrading their teaching (in the classrooms). I am not saying that their degrees are worthless but I feel the ways of getting the degrees are to easy (sorry to say that) without thinking of the needs and eventual outcomes of the usefulness of the degrees held in their hands. So by holding a degree which is merely to get a higher salary is a waste of the country's tax payers' money and the creation of a bleak young Malaysians' future (in education).
Thank you very much.
1) Primary School - Focus on the foundation Maths, Reading and Writing
2) Secondary School - Focus on growing the knowledge base
3) College/Pre-university - Focus on understanding the knowledge
4) Degree - Focus on applying the knowledge
5) Masters - Focus on questioning the knowledge
6) Doctorate - Focus on creating new knowledge
PISA. As a secondary school student, I agree with most of the context in this video. I'm looking forward to your future videos about our education system. Videos like these are great methods of raising awareness.
Just some extra points that I'd like to add: Parents play an important role in early education.
1. We can't expect children to fully learn something on their own.
2. Parents should fill the knowledge gap that was created in our early education system, instead of fully relying on the teachers ability.
Furthermore, we as students should read books and articles a lot more (even though I'm not a bookworm) as it helps in understanding content and learning new words.
I am one of the batch '05 students that took UPSR and SPM but not PT3. I am currently taking my diploma in a stem subject and I agree with that he said about changing stem subjects to English have widen the gap between urban and rural students. In university I learn all of my subjects in English. I was lucky to be born in KL and I learnt my math and science stream subjects in English. However I can't say the same for my classmates who come from rural areas of the country. I can see that even some of them who got straight As in SPM were struggling. Not because of them not understanding the concepts. They didn't understand how to explain it in English because during their SPM they either took their subjects in Malay or their teachers themselves were struggling in teaching them in English. This becomes an issue when the lecturers are all teaching in full English so they might not understand it too well. Most of the time as soon as I explain it to them in Malay they instantly understand it. So in short, I think the whole issue is that the ministry of education must talk about the importance of English in our education. I'm not saying we should change the whole syllabus to English but we need to show the importance of English in our lives
I was told that even lawyers who are trained in Malaysia are not proficient in English. They have problems producing legal documents and arguing cases in courts in English. They may be able to rely on the admin department to provide an appropriate legal document but they are on your own in court. It is not uncommon to witness a case whereby a lawyer who's graduated from an overseas university articulating his/her points well but the locally trained lawyers rebutting in Malay and their body language clearly show the difference in their performance and confidence.
Now you know why more than 100k Malaysian students are in Singapore for education and 900k Malaysian workers are working in Singapore...
Singapore is rank no 1for so many years , You can talk until the cow comes back , problem still not solved
No, you're wrong if you said that the problem is come from the teachers. Trust me, semua lantikan guru-guru tetap ni mostly knowledgeable and passion with their career. Sebenarnya masalah bermula daripada bebanan kerja guru tu sendiri. Siapa yang jadi cikgu faham la. Bayangkan only 20%-30% sahaja kerja mengaajar student. Selain daripada tu semua kerja2 yg tiada langsung kaitan dengan PdP. Macam mana lah nak fokus mengajar elok-elok kalau kerja mengajar pun limited. Cikgu lah kerani, ketua program merepek itu ini. They just want to teach students.
😂😂😂 Really.....
Do we have quality teachers....
@@wk3960 If we don't, just don't send your children to school la, can or not? Homeschooling better.
@@Minlock19 you can do whatever you like... Nobody stopping you
This is the TRUTH. During my practicum, one older teacher told me the system has changed so much. She told me that back then, after she finished prepping for class and marking the books, she even had time to kopek bayam in the office to later cook at home. But now, there is just too much clerical work, programs, data entry, and PBD etc that she has to work all day and can't even sleep much at night every day. It is that bad. The statement "teachers doing the work related to teaching (preping, marking) is about 20%-30% and the rest is a lot of nonsense work" is true. Things really need to change or else, it is not possible for teacher to focus on teaching.
True, as a student, I know how most of my teachers are passionate about teaching but most of the time they were abcent for a bunch of ridiculous stuff hosting this hosting that going forward trip this trip just so many excuses I tell you that my math teacher had already been absent for 2 weeks without teaching not bc she's sick or whatsoever but bc of another thing that doesn't have to do with PDP. My mom always said that the old teacher during her time was the best, I want the opportunity to be able to learn without having this useless program. One more thing is that I honestly think it was a great idea to study math and science in English even if it wasn't the best way as he said, but it was better than nothing bc than this student has to struggle to understand and push themselves years out from comfort zone. I hope the Ministry of Education will do something to improve education in Malaysia.
As a 15 years old highschooler i agree that our education system is broken. The negligence of upsr and pt3 make students believes that they only jave to worried about SPM. Not to mention the fact that allowing 13 years old to start using calculator is already a problem at the end of it self. In my opinion we have to expose to students about algebra in early stages like 12 years old instead of 13. Right now completing a math question felt like a chore but it shouldn't be that way it should be fun. There is something broken in our teaching system because these days i cant even see 12 year olds doing simple multiplication like 5 x 9
.Maybe a reward base system could encourage students to do better. Day by day going to school actually felt like going to work and pressured to become the the best or better.
Also I would like to add that when students are interested or wanna know more some teachers shut them down by telling "oh juts ask your parents or Google it" when the things are about their teaching subjects. Sometimes when we get our answers wrong the teacher did not encourage us to be better instead they would say stuff like "don't waste my time if you are not getting it right" or "if you fail or pass I still get paid".
Language is a very sensitive issue. A better (more sensitive) approach is to offer English stream schools and "vernacular" stream schools, and let parents choose which to send their kids. If you, as a parent, believe that English will give your children an advantage, then you will choose English schools. But if you believe your child should have a good basis in their "mother tongue" then you might choose to send your child to a Bahasa or Mandarin School. Forcing ALL schools to be English when the schools and the teachers are NOT ready, is as you note, a recipe for failure and frustration.
Over time, parents will choose, and the education system will evolve. In Singapore, initially there were non-English Schools, but parents realised that English offered their children an advantage in Life and over time, all schools in Singapore are English stream. (There are also schools offering Higher Chinese for students who are competent in Mandarin, but that's another story).
But yes, a good basis (i.e. good, competent teachers) is critically essential for a good education system. And the system must be in place before trying new things. Mahathir, as usual, wanted things to be as he sees it, instead of seeing things as they are and responding to it. (But that is his failure, and another story).
Nanyang University whose medium of instruction was in Mandarin "died" as students preferred to go to NUS as English educated NUS graduates had better career prospects. All the Government has to do is to give parents a choice. Market forces will prevail, and we will know what parents actually want for their children.
As a westerner living in Pasir Gudang , I am not allowed to teach English to Malaysian students because I am in my fifties . Think about it ! 50 plus years of a Native American speaker living in Malaysia but having to teach English online to Chinese , Turkish , Saudi Arabian students because my experience is not allowed in Malaysia. This kind of thinking is what traps Malaysian culture from improving in the global marketplace. In my opinion.
Respect given to the other commenters about the vast systemic racism within the country.
In all the schools that I have been to, it's a fact that many teachers don't enter class to teach and if they do, they are mostly on their hp. You can also see them playing their hp during assemblies and invigilations.
The teachers are mostly unqualified. You can find quite a number of them being late, not entering class
This is true as hell. Even the teachers are not well disciplined, yet they expect their students to do the same. Ironic.
they are also more daring, just because theyre a teacher they can slap the students anyhow they want. and act like they own the place,
My education was fully in government school in a ‘sekolah prestasi tinggi’ (high performing school). Only students with 5As from UPSR could enter. We had a small student to teacher ratio (1:20), the best teachers from the surrounding area, good funding - all the makes of a good education system. I got straight A1 in my SPM, and so did many of my classmates. Many of us went on to get scholarships to study abroad in medicine, engineering, business, law, etc. I reckon this is proof that the Malaysian education system can work well if given the right conditions, but I also realise that this is an exception rather than the norm. How do we replicate this successful model to the rest of the country?
You are lucky. There were many more with straight As in UPSR but not given the opportunity. If not Malaysia would have produced a lot more talented professionals.
This PISA never had a test on this type of school. They only focusing on the rural school to conduct those test.
The world is becoming borderless and the environment has become complicated. So, if the quality drops, we actually have to look at more angle for the causes. Students are exposed to different media and people.
Teachers used to be able to focus on teaching because they were not burdened with paperwork.
The reason for the poor quality of students:
1. An increase in tuition centers and child care centers that focus on profit. Students are not focused in school because they feel that there is a tutor who will help them. Lack of self effort to excel in education.
2. Politician's own agenda. Many policies are made without being evaluated as a whole.
3. Policy makers who never go to the field. They enact policies that are still not compatible with the available facilities.
4. Parents. now likes to blame the teacher so that the child can't be scolded or fined if he doesn't do school work.
my daughter was pretty upset and fedup with the schooling system. she mention that none of the student actually knew about PISA exams and what it meant. Yes, teachers are either under pressure from the consistent changes by MOE and my understanding is that either teachers are bored, lack psychological training, unmotivated which leads to a very monotonous class. Example History class which puts students to sleep. the lack to gain the attention of the students causes the subject to be least absorbed. Sejarah is a story and it should be an exciting story with both sides of the class interacting. i remember sitting through 1hr 30 mins.. teacher writing on the black board it was so boring that i decided to drop Sejarah back then 30+ years ago. i slept through 90% of the sejarah class.
so the world is changing fast, kids today learn differently and so the method the teachers bring forth the knowledge needs to be revamped. I looked through the Sejarah text book and it is very unappetizing. who every decided to author the contents and the way the information is placed into the text book needs to be changed! big change is needed. not just talk but real action!
Speaking from a parent's heart, education is the best gift you can give to your child. Sadly, I foresee not much hope for significant change in the next decade. If you are a parent, do your due diligence; there is nothing that can't be learned from the internet, and a parent is still the best teacher for your children.
You are a smart person
As a Chinese Malaysian student, I’d like to say something…
I have some friends who are very bad at their academics. But it’s not always their fault that they’re not learning better. It’s not the problem with the teachers either. (I know that since my mum is a government school teacher).
It’s just that there are not much teachers that have the patience to actually get a students with bad grades to excel. Teachers are tired from paperworks and meetings and grading books and some of them don’t have the motive to ACTUALLY teach?!
But don’t blame teachers, technology is a part of Malaysia’s edu system’s downfall. Apps like RUclips and TikTok are affecting students grades and time management is nono good.
So, some students have LEARNING PROBLEMS. But there are only learning aids for students who CAN’T SPEAK MALAY or MATHS NO GOOD. My friend is one of those who can read Malay and is not bad at Maths but he has a learning disorder. He just can’t sit still and listen. And he can’t learn.
Communication is an essential part in learning, if you can’t communicate or listen, it’ll be very hard to understand. I study in a Chinese school and some students there are Malay, Indian or Orang Asli. Only a few can use Chinese fluently, while some others are very good at English or Malay.
If you are a student you notified about the education news, you might know that your Malay and Sejarah have to pass if you want to skip Pre-Secondary level to Form 1 (Malay only) and pass SPM (Malay and Sejarah). But it doesn’t really help with the communication barrier. Like I said, some non Chinese also study in Chinese school but some core subjects like Chinese, Maths, Science and Sejarah (Yes, it’s a core subject now) is learnt in Chinese in Malaysian Chinese Primary Schools.
Well, this are just some stuff I observed as I student in Primary School and a son of a Primary teacher. I am turning 11 this year and hope our education system will improve.
Totally agreed. (1) Teachers are the main problem. You go to any neighborhood SMK and observe how they teach. You will vomit blood. Some teachers dont even come to class, cited pregnancy as the reason. (2) The parents! Many parents from rural areas don't pay attention to their kids' education.
If you ask public Malaysians on the streets to perform simple calculations on fractions or percentages, not many are able to do it.
when i was in school, pendidikan moral for form 4 and form 5, teacher didnt come to class at all....she showed 1 time for first week, and then when there was a complaint our class sgt bising, so she appeared like a wild pokemon scolded us, but when i questioned here why she dont come to class, she just told me she was busy and dont ask so many questions. WOW. So my kids are going to be sent to private school because i cannot trust malaysian education system.
wahh so nice of you all hahahah@@circe_ng321
well tbf moral is a useless subject lol, honestly we should scrap sivik and moral for actually more useful subject like language based or IT
moral if implemented correctly can be useful, ditto for sivik, IT should me made compulsory, @@dariel299
Law is better than moral and sivik combined. @@dariel299
If u have the money, then good for u can avoid the shitty education system. What if u cant afford? then suffer lah
My kids are in international school as there is gap in our education system. However, I believe the situation can improve #supportpisa
I don't think you really believe the situation can improve else you would have not send your kids to international school. The education will only get worst if the education ministry only worries about shoes and shirt.
The gap started from early childhood education preschools
@@jackofa11traits29 the
Your believe remains as just a believe. The reality is...
Happening for past 30 years. Come another 10 years, it will be the same. Arm chair critics voicing same sentiments.
Well said Mr Money! Good video
Some one asked me why I don't take the MRT from Johor to Kuching. What are schools teaching?
Apparently they're teaching you can MRT your way from Johor to Kuching :/
Thank you for sharing! The awareness of poor education system must reach from top to bottom. In this case, Malaysia probably one generation behind developed country.
Why am I not surprised that the minister gave a stupid answer. Giving excuses is the best these fellas can do because no government servants get fired. Even if they take bribes or underperform they will only be transferred but they will still have a secured employment.
I'm from the national school and later got into national boarding school. Scored full As from UPSR, PMR & SPM. Received full scholarship to study engineering in Canada. Currently working for national oil and gas company. You can achieve anything if you really work hard for it regardless of which school that you go.
You are good as well as lucky.
This! If you're a brilliant students nothing is gonna stop you from succeed academically. I went to both daily & boarding schools (rural schools)...you can expect resources very limited. Growing up as B40 family member, not much resources also. But I was able to get 11As.
@@deanab-se5op So were you offered a government scholarship to further your studies?
I work hard and studying a lot for my SPM so I can study at university but only ended up with okay results. Now I study at vocational school for diploma with the rest of kids with bad SPM results. Working hard doesn't really guarantee anything. Stop giving false hope.
@@frog6054 To score in exams, one must be smart too, not just hardworking alone. Nowadays, a person with a diploma and skill may earn more than a degree holder.
There are so many possible improvements that, in my opinion, could be tackled, like for example:
1. Dead-end job teachers. This has been the way it is for a while, and our children are paying for it. Doesn't help that it's not a very high-income job for government schools, and there is the issue of many teachers having lots of children, just to get maternal leave. Schools could have gotten more substitute teachers at least. Saw this a lot, among my younger siblings especially.
2. Biased education. Most of History class, during my time at least, avoids a lot of dark aspects of history to stroke the ego of our nation. I mean, do any of you know that Dato Maharajalela traded slaves? I didn't either before leaving school.
3. Lack of focus on vocational schools. This was, ironically, actually a topic brought up in KOMSAS (BM Literature), yet it still remains a big problem for those who are less academically inclined. Even me, as a hands-on type of guy, did consider going, but didn't go for it due to the lack of prestige attached to it.
4. Lack of racial integration. Apart from the obvious issue of vernacular schools (which is its own can of worms), from personal experience, it's actually not common to see "1Malaysia" friend groups in school. Most people are only friends with their own race to be honest.
These are just some of the problems wrong with our education system, and it's no wonder why those with the money opt for private schools.
Well said
Very Biased. SO TRUE😂
My daughter is in MMU. She just told me UM law students can bring scripts into the exam room.
During my time,the results in School certificate were published in the newspaper. Getting Division ONE didn’t qualify me to continue A level in government school. The system is self destruct; but blaming on others for own failure.
When Malaysia put more emphasis in religious study and neglect the advance language ‘English’, Malaysia will still be ‘rowing the sampan’ for years to come.
Spot on, they are preparing for the afterlife. Heaven await them.
Bruh English proficiency in Malaysia is already good compared to the rest. You must be too dumb to think that english is so important considering the dominance of west has been exposed and declining. It doesn’t indicates intelligence as a whole whatsoever. What we need is an integrated system that is effective. The problem is we cant even integrate well due to citizens who can’t even communicate in the basic national language. ultimate failures. Living in denials within in their own shells. Everybody is working in silo with different identity and worse some identity is foreign to this land.
Why busy body about other people religions? Mind your own religion la, no one even bzbody your guys religion, not like we forced u guys to learn Islam or Christian lessons. The main problems, not only the unqualified teacher assessing the subjects, that’s not even their profession in the 1st place. But also the syok sendiri silibus by KPM, which even the math question they gave to SK students, same level as form 5 old batch lesson. This just show, you dont know the real issues, more less I bet you didn’t even have family who at age primary schools right now.
this has no basis whatsoever. As a matter of fact, Islamic Religious schools are the top scorers in SPM. You could check the ranking, I dare you. The main problem is basically we got citizens who cant integrate well with society, don't even have the basic knowledge of this country and its national language. It is a well recipe for disaster in the future, a time ticking bomb.
Just sharing my personal experience, I work in the biological sciences research sector, so I can only comment on my field. I had the opportunity to teach both Malaysian and Singaporean interns in my job. Yes, I'm sorry to say that the quality of graduates from Malaysian Universities, even some from as prestigious as Universiti Malaya, was seriously lacking even when compared to Singaporean Polytechnic graduates. Language barrier is of course an issue as Singapore's teaching medium is in English, so the Singaporean interns naturally have an advantage in an international setting, especially in sciences.
But one thing that made me seriously question the integrity of Malaysia's higher education system is the lack of practical skills. Most of the interns that I taught seem like they have never used or even held the basic scientific tools we used for our jobs a day in their lives. It felt like the Malaysian universities were just pumping them full of theory lessons with no practical application and hoping that they would pick it up when they entered the workforce. I'm sorry but that's not how things work in my field, and I seriously hope Malaysia will reform their education system if they want to remain competitive.
The problem now is that our teachers are recruited from those who are rejected applicants of other jobs.
As a language instructor, my advice is to conduct language drill for all levels..sounds good and natural. In school, teachers should provide sufficient opportunities for group presentation and QnA.
When mix Science with Religion we get Philosophy
But when mix Corruption with Racism we get Malaysia
Maybe what we really need is a new Education Minister, one who has a clear vision of our education FUTURE.
When I crossed over to Sg in 1981, I only had to stay back for 1 year due to my poor English. I was lucky.
1. To attract more capable teachers, the govt needs to allocate more budget to merit-based salary benchmarks.
2. Its better to give individual schools more autonomy as they are the ones closer to the ground. Recruit much more capable principal/headmaster to steer the schools and teachers.
3. I agree. Language is not the main problem. China n taiwan teach in chinese, and there are still many top students here.
An example of the failure: Why Malaysia Education System Is A Failure? ❌ Why Is Malaysia's Education System A Failure? ✔
Decided to homeschool my kid so that she doesn't have to waste time in school like I did previously. Now my girl is studying in USA with a scholarship.
Fadhlina Sidek should absolutely be blamed. Yes the rot didn’t happen under her watch, but we don’t see ANY solutions from the PH administration besides non sequiturs like black shoes and Palestine week. And she dismissed parents’ concerns with “Jangan bising, Jangan usik”. Absolute rubbish.
Medium of instruction to English would settle the problem. It helps to be a global citizen and would definitely boost tourism as well. Just my 2 cents.
PISA might not be the best comparison but Malaysia is the only country i know where you can find an old Lady in a remote village and talk with her in English but her grandchildren coming to visit her after school do not understand English… my daughters English teacher at a PT meet apologised that her English is not so good
Chinese School, Chinese Independent and International School are OK.... Most of them currently are working in oversea..
Learn from your neighbour. You are so lucky to have a well performing neighbour, but have not taken the trouble to learn from them or work with them.
If only maintain the English language medium we will not like this
Because student can read all the material available around the worlds to be better student
But malay
We have to depend on the intellect of existing so call experts to translate who are mostly slanted by Islamic cause
I’m 300% agreed with you.
Syllabus especially maths need serious review, instead we are focusing on what uniform to wear. Announce like it's huge? Teachers also under dilemma, the stress results in non-performing. Why abort the exams?
Education system is long overdue for an overhaul. The fact is no one learn things the same way and same pace. Why are we trying to fit everyone into the same box.
What Pete says about our teacher quality is true. I am one of those who has been taught by good quality teachers who is on their way to retirement, and new group of young teachers.
The passion and gap of quality between these two are so huge, that some of those experienced teachers can teach without even looking at the books, and they can answer whatever questions asked by students. On the other hand , the young ones just read all the texts in the books, and are often unable to give answers to questions asked. And yeah they got pregnant every 1-2 years.
sorry, had to disagree about the young teachers.
I have a high school friend who scored very badly, not even 1A in SPM, now teaching in primary school.
I was told the teachers university in tg malim does not tolerate any student who fail in order to achieve its KPI. If the student fail, the lecturers will be punished instead. So everybody pass. There is no incentive really for students to study and improve. Upon graduation, they are assured of a teaching job. And the entire downward cycle continues. Hence our declining PISA scores.
Young teachers can be good if they work hard for their teaching in the 1st 5-6 years. The problem is they are burdened with stupid pointless programs that hampered their growth. All these pointless prog takes so much time & effort, to the point teachers can't even focus on their pupils.
You do realise that those experienced teacher who can teach without looking at books actually need time to read, analyse the textbook, modify the content to suit pupils' level, creating own worksheet or saving any worksheet from other teachers, building up materials etc..these can take years.. some young teachers nowdays busy with making decoration, doing the management work, doing laborer work: all because pentadbir yg suka menyusahkan, added with teaching, aannd family..you think its easy to juggle everything..
Ngl, one thing the Gov could do to improve our education system a little bit is to change the require compulsory subjects to get the SPM certificate. For now, the 2(and only 2,sadly) compulsory subjects that are needed to be pass in order to get the SPM cert r BM and Sejerah. But the flaw here is, even if you scored perfect marks for subjects like English, Maths, Akuan or any Science subjects, you still won't get the SPM cert if you don't pass BM and Sejarah. While I have no problem with BM being a compulsory subject(it is our national language afterall), I do find it weird that Sejarah was made compulsory but not actual useful subjects like English, Maths or Science. Like sure, we get learn our nation's history and all but how does that make it more important than stuff like English and Science? That pretty much means that you can be the most (No Offense btw) braindead student in English or Science, but if you pass BM and Sejarah then you automatically will get the SPM cert. Like, am I the only one who finds that very weird?
I'm not saying that Sejarah isn't important, no no, but rather all I'm trying to say here is to make more beneficial subjects compulsory. Maybe that would improve the quality of our education and overall workforce
I also found it weird that you only had to pass the mandatory subjects that obtain your SPM cert. I wonder if it will cause some students to neglect other subjects that are crucial in the real world to some extent since they just need to pass the two subjects. The teachers of both subjects keep emphasize that failing their subject means failing SPM and no cert unless you retake it.
To many kids these day wanna be influencer & work for gig economy 😢
but they can't even speak their mother tongue properly
well in the current age being and influencer and work for gig economy pays more then the usual doctor, lawyers, etc and u dont need a degree, no shit kids will be more attracted to that
Students nowadays do not read. They tend to skip questions that require reading and tembak saja especially if they do not care about the outcome. The same students can be excellent in Final Year exams because they see these exams are more important than this Piza exam and they are right to think so.
Batch 99 here, we are the first to experience PT3 after PMR was abolished in 2014. I still remember at that time the teachers in school were shambles because even they don't know what language we will be using in class either BM or BI😂
With nothing short of absolute due respect and with no malice or ill-thoughts whatsoever, and since this video clip is touching on the very essence of why Malaysia failed miserably and pathetically in the recent PISA score, based on the fact that this RUclips video clip will be circulated worldwide, may I humbly suggest that Mr Money himself brushes up his L2 spoken English in his next video clip on RUclips/Tik Tok/FB etc. Thank you.
Hai, the stats of teacher trainee applicants (at around 8:33) were from 2010-2012 tho. In fact, the July intake for 2012 (the one on the right) already shows a significant increase in top academic performers being offered a place in the teacher training institute. Not to say that being a top academic performer is all that makes a good teacher, but just wanted to point out that you should be more cautious when interpreting and presenting data in an unbiased and reliable manner :)
This needs to be upvoted.
Another point to add to why teachers quality is affected.... Teachers also have to do admin works and all the other works in school which is supposed to be given to another person.
Singaporean here. My observations are that those Malaysians that came over here to work are really bright and well qualified and hardworking. However English is their weakness. Most that came here are also of a minority race if you catch my drift 😂
1) Senang sahaja. Ikut sistem jiran kami, SG, one of the top PISA scorers.
2) Keep politics out of education
3) Let experienced teachers run the education system, including the Minister of Education. Keep bureaucrats and politicians out
4) To attract the best teachers, we need to adjust salary scale to be on par with private sector or better
5) Promotion based on merits
6) Take religion out of school syllabus or the most one class only per week.
Well, we don have any education system, technically speaking. The MOE itself is a big joke.
It's a total failure!!!! You are very right!!!!
This is the consequence of ditching English completely after independence and choosing race based politics over a merit based system.
i would say malaysian education was a success that allowed me to work and live overseas. appreciated every slap that i got from teachers that actually motivated me to stay focused. factory resets are necessary sometimes.
We really need to pick up
This had been said since the 1990! Nothing changed or most probably nothing can be changed already! Rotten to core! Talented teacher & students most had moved to Singapore & Private, the left-over are half-baked teaching suku-baked!
Agree that this sentiment is repeated for past 30 years plus. Everyone hoping that this will change for the better. Many parents will be risking the future of their children. Hence their children go through an alternative education system. Will this ever change soon?
I can see only w.p. kuala lumpur(maybe penang) can apply singapore education system. Other state are not ready yet because of culture and facilities.
Apart from teachers, there are other issues about the subject taught in the government school system. Malaysian history classes are nothing but cerita dongeng? Religion subjects should be kept out of school systems. If they want to practice religion, they should learn in the mosques, temples, churches, etc. We should keep religion and politics out from school and let the student learn what is important to build the nation future, not learning more useless subjects that serve no purpose but syok sendiri.
I agree, but religious classes can be important for those who aspire to become a religious teacher in the future, the knowledge is crucial knowing that malaysia is a "majority muslim" country (Not a muslim country). But its pitiful how even PSV and RBT subjects in school are useless. PSV is taught by a teacher who cant do art, and English is taught by a teacher who can't speak a full sentence of English in class. embarassing. this is not implied to every teachers, but most of them are like this
@@ryoutacooks Education is one thing, the other things are those not in education profession becomes the current leaders. Do you trust them making the right judgement in subjects they aren't familiar with? Promoting them based on race and not based on qualification certainly is questionable. Imagine building a bridge millions depends on to drive or walk every day, or going to a medical doctor and their first word they utter is "Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem", I'll probably be the first to walk out the door. ;-)
@@hykok Nah, nothing wrong with uttering bismillah. It basically just means "in the name of Allah". Yeah but malaysia can definitely improve in choosing their leaders. Although its actually impossible cause corruption in malaysia is inevitable. however, Religion isnt the problem. I give u an instance, dr nisha graduated from Madrasah wak tanjong in Singapore. And now she is a yale postdoctoral researcher. there are lots of madrasah alumni who graduated and entered a good University. It's always about the education and clearly malaysia isnt the best at handling it
Masa zaman sekolah dulu, I would always wonder kenapa setiap hari mesti akan ada beberapa cikgu yang takde di sekolah. Bila dah jadi cikgu, baru faham hahaha.
Every day, mesti akan ada cikgu yang involve dengan some sort of workshop, meetings, ataupun tugas² lain seperti bawak pelajar ke pelbagai jenis pertandingan. Jadi, sebelum complain tentang keberadaan guru, mungkin kena check dulu the reasons for it.
Kemudian, sometimes bila ada shortage of tenaga pengajar for certain subjects, guru luar opsyen terpaksa terjun bidang. Contohnya, kalau di sekolah tu tak cukup guru Bahasa Inggeris, guru yang sedia ada (yang opsyen nya bukan Bahasa Inggeris) kena fill in that spot sambil menunggu pengganti masuk. Hence, wujudnya masalah that you mentioned; guru tidak knowledgeable dan passionate. Dia bukan tak pandai, tapi dah bendanya luar bidang, payah la nak mengajar. Kena buat banyak revision. 😅
Satu lagi perkara kita kena consider, sesi pembelajaran dan mengajar bukan satu hala. It takes two to tango. Kadang² bila pelajar memang dari awal dah give up, payah untuk guru² nak pastikan the right learning occurs. And often times, it's hard to blame the students entirely due to their socio-economic background.
Banyak lagi yang boleh dibincangkan tapi setakat ni dulu for now. Harapnya kita semua dapat mendengar pendapat dari semua pihak, dan come up with feasible and effective solutions.
It is good that you share the issues faced by teachers and the education system.
Ideally, each class has an assistant teacher to help so that interruptions in lessons are minimised.
Too many subjects . How to pay attention to all 13 subjects?
One of the main problems might be language
Many students in malaysia can't even speak proper malay (i'm not rlly good but average) So students who can afford private schools just decide to go there since it'll be easier. plus speaking as a student most of what the curriculum teach us here is just how to memorize sh!t so you pass your exams and unecessary stuff.
so basically unless your parents/ teachers put extra effort into preparing actual material or you go to some tuitions,You're screwed for middle school.
This is true. When I was still in primary and secondary school,everything's just copy and paste exactly what we're taught. A slight altering of anything and you might get marked wrong for the answer
Ur research SHOULD START FROM during O levels to MCE to SPM until today, OUR EDUCATION ARE SCREW UP BY KETUAAN ISSUE