Asmongold Ranks Every Single WoW PATCH & EXPANSION | Final Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- THE DEFINITIVE LIST! Asmongold & Mcconnell complete the ultimate WoW tier list & rate ALL World of Warcraft Patches including their raids and all new features first introduced, from best to worst. Including in this tierlist:
Burning Crusade 0:00
Patch 2.0: Before the Storm / The Burning Crusade
Patch 2.1: The Black Temple
Patch 2.2: Voice Chat!
Patch 2.3: The Gods of Zul’Aman
Patch 2.4: Fury of the Sunwell
Wrath of the Lich King 5:50
Patch 3.0: Echoes of Doom/Wrath of the Lich King
Patch 3.1: Secrets of Ulduar
Patch 3.2: Call of the Crusade
Patch 3.3: Fall of the Lich King
Cataclysm 22:19
Patch 4.0 Cataclysm System Patch
Patch 4.1 Rise of the Zandalari
Patch 4.2 Rage of the Firelands
Patch 4.3 Hour of Twilight
Mists of Pandaria 39:27
Patch 5.0 Mists of Pandaria System Patch and Expansion
Patch 5.1 Landfall
Patch 5.2 The Thunder King
Patch 5.3 Escalation
Patch 5.4 Siege of Orgrimmar
Warlords of Draenor 50:41
Patch 6.0 Warlords of Draenor - The Iron Tide
Patch 6.1 The Adventure Continues
Patch 6.2 Fury of Hellfire
Legion 58:56
Patch 7.0.3 Legion
Patch 7.1.0 Return to Karazhan
Patch 7.1.5 Nighthold
Patch 7.2 Tomb of Sargeras
Patch 7.2.5 Deaths of Chromie
Patch 7.3 Shadows of Argus
Battle for Azeroth 1:08:08
Patch 8.0.1 Battle for Azeroth expansion
Patch 8.1 Tides of Vengeance
Patch 8.2 Rise of Azshara
Patch 8.3 Visions of N'Zoth
Shadowlands 1:13:46
Patch 9.0 Shadowlands Expansion
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Next up: Asmongold rates every single NPC in every expansion
I would watch the whole thing tbh
@@tataririka it would take weeks....you son of a bish im in
I gamon, will save us!
Asmongold rates every single item in the game
Im in
This is the "sports talk radio" of my generation, I love it.
Damn that’s a perfect analogy haha
Yooooo hahaha
That's exactly what gaming channels are, perfect analogy
“Dude the 80s bears defense was better then ANY of the steel curtains in the 70s”
very accurate
Listening to Asmon and McConnell argue like two old guys at a bagel shop is so good. McConnell laughing hysterically while Asmon rants about how good he was in the first Cata patch was gold
Its like Skip Bayless vs Stephen A Smith LOL. I throughly enjoyed it.
Yeah except mcconnells arguments are so bad “ret good s tier. Marrowgar cool s tier. Cata bad f tier.”
Every video McConnell is in knocks the video down to F tier, I am glad he is not around currently. His vioce grates on my soul, his opinions are garbage, and he whines like a bitch.
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A BAGEL SHOP LOL
I love when the grease tendrils go crazy during his rants
I really LOL'd at this. Thank you 🤣🤣
Good comment
I cannot unsee that now, thank you, you just made every Asmongold stream 1000x funnier for me
I love how hard mcconnell flames asmon lmfao
They disagree on literally EVERYTHING. If McConnel wasnt in this video it would be an hour shorter.
lol Asmon was 100x harsher with him all along lol
@@dendo20p "LFR wasn't that bad" -McConnell
If this is what replaces the yesmen maybe were better off with the yesmen.
@@Kuolonen he’s intentionally fucking with Asmon, to give him something to bounce off of
@@belisarius6949 except MoP
1:14:55 "The storyline of Shadowlands is incredible." -Asmongold 2021
Oh dear😅😂
To be fair this was at release and it was petty cool with denathrius
Dont forget on the start of catacylsm, deathwing killed you in zones sometimes. It was a nice introduction to his antagonist form
“Sometimes” it happened to me once the entire expansion.
@@mattemattics5667 Oh wow
Happen to me several times on alts.. I think you had to collect stuff from the flames too.
@@mattemattics5667 I was probably killed 10 times on alts 😂
Cata's start was S tier. But i promise LFG did too much damage
dude the music timing throughout the whole video is absolutely unreal wtf
Asmon made me realize that liking cataclysm is the same as liking the Star Wars prequels.
Eh, the prequels have become zoomer cult classics, so its like 50/50 these days.
I never did a single raid in Cataclysm. PvP for the entire expansion!
@@dudeguy24 more millennial than sooner.
The prequels are better than the new trilogy tho. Kinda like how bfa and shadowlands are meh too
Cata was actually amazing except Dragon Soul patch with the raid that was trash and also LFR came out and they changed the talent system.
These last few streams make me realise how much we need McConnell
it's funny how wrong he is on so many things lol
@@philipross1691 Most of his appearances is literally playing devil's advocate. Sometimes he can't keep it anymore bcs of how ridiculous things he's saying and you can hear him laugh
McConnell is a lot of fun
I thought he was incredibly stupid here and I never got the hate for him before. Definitely didn't feel like he was playing DA but just had bad taste
Idk why so many people hate him, McConnell makes the streams even funnier imo
mcconnell and asmon are such a perfect duo hahaha, I love it
elven tavern a is the ost name
They are dynamic as fuck. Can’t find or name any better duo. It just doesn’t get any better than these two. S Tier
@@KaldmigHanne what about asmons room and trash? They're a pretty dynamic duo
McConnell consistently owns Asmon. Why doesn't he have a channel? Or does he? :D
hi rupty :)
when he entered the wOd zone the music change was perfect
Cataclysm being S is funny because that’s the patch that made me quit and not come back until legion
This could literally be said about every patch by someone. Is it still funny?
@@Mike_Dubayou it’s still funny to me. That’s called experience
I quit halfway into Wrath Because they made druids no longer able to tank and then Cata made me Never want to go back. They ruined The World >_< some of my favorite zones were basically deleted or remade and you couldn't go back to see the old one =(
@@Mystery001001 yup was the beginning of the end
For me Cara was decent like 5/10 it was more I can play it but I neither like it nor dislike it personally my fav xpacks are wotlk and legion.
Asmon spoke the truth about those cata dungeons. DPS didn't want to CC shit and everyone wanted to turn their brain off. We lost a beautiful thing.
That's because we just came for lich king heroics which were a face roll grind. People weren't ready for the drastic difficulty change at first lol.
Yea. They were hard but man did it feel fucking awesome when you completed them, sucks they got nerfed.
Heroic wailing caverns. Fighting the final boss on the boat . Having to grab the ropes and escape the explosions . Seeing people fail miserably . Amazing time
@@Lv28fighter I tanked during that time and it was the best line of being exceptionally hard for its time while being easy to learn/understand. The abilities bosses did couldn't be outgeared much at all, and were mainly 1 shot and unforgiving. It was my favorite time to tank man. I didn't experience much of the leavers and people that gave up like the forums showed, we would wipe multiple times and 9/10 my group would be the same people at the end. And i'd say somewhere around 80% of people were proud to get the gear/down the boss once it died lol.
Healing I agreed with the forum posts back then. It was probably the most mana starved time to be a healer of all time and was pretty unfun. But it didn't need to be buffed into what it became.
Trash was the perfect mix of high damage/threatening mobs and short dungeons. TBC is the example I give when referring to them except TBC had difficult trash for its time but there was quite a lot of it. I might be in the minority but Grim batol, Stonecore and Throne of tides actually make my imaginary S tier dungeon list. Super fun dongs. The only dungeon I didn't have fun with was deadmines revamp. By far the longest dungeon with the hardest trash.
Beginning cataclysm is one of the most under rated time periods because of how tainted it got for being affiliated with the last patch of the expansion.
@@danielingram4979 Healing back then was amazing. You were mana starved if you tried to constantly save the dps that refused to learn the mechanics. I did the "I can save ONCE each dps, after that I'm letting you die" and it worked, if you played a lot with the same people you would know when it was okay to use more mana so they can do more dps, which was great as a healer because it gave the healer more decisions.
Mcool talking back to you like you were a "person" and not some kind of elord is refreshing man
He always has done that that's their dynamic
Hyjal was technically out on release, just nobody could enter it until Black Temple because of Kael'thas.
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D: @@voriq5879
True and real
That and u only got 3 vials from kt and vash needed 25
His “WhaaaaAAAT!?”
Shortly after 6:30 is amazing
Edit: It got even higher at 27:06 LMFAO
Yesssss duuuude, ty for the time stamps. Those were the best part of the video lol.
cataclysm is critically underrated, it was probably the most fun expansion to exist
I think the Wrath patch should be higher for revolutionizing class design. In TBC Locks and iirc Hunters were still 1 button classes in PvE, while in Wrath every class became enjoyable to play (which made the entire experience of the game better).
yea, and classes back then were unique, and I loved old talent trees
yea but warriors were completely useless in wrath so asmon was salty and low rated it
Wrath is easily high A. Also added achievements. Asmon is a goof ball lol
@@dllionmoore9383 Warriors were the shit in wrath,highest dps class on Pve and highest survivability in pvp,asmons simply sucks
If you only look at raids as the only indicator for success it would be an A. Although, wrath is easily the best expansion for the freedom of character design. Wow declined because they destroyed half the reason people played. Talent trees and unique pvp and pve experience based around your build. They can't ever recreate that experience without the old system.
As someone who started raiding in WotLK and had to relearn my entire class when it came to healing in Cata, I 100% agree with Asmon when he says it meant something to be good at the game. It felt amazing to get through those tough as nails heroics without someone dying. Then they changed them and all the challenge was lost. All the hard work I out into learning my class was gone and I lost all motivation to continue hearing. I switch classes and just became a casual herb farmer.
@@BattousaiHBr Class and the talent redesign is a big factor on what ruined the game.
@@BattousaiHBr Classes are simply boring to play now. And in no way is some scuffed shitty, pick 1/3 skills in a row where most of them are passives is better than having talent trees you can build. Talents trees are a cool and great part to an rpg
@@BattousaiHBr But you don't. Lots of people built what they wanted and thought were the best. Ah yes, let's change it to some simplistic garbage where they will google that instead, just like legendaries
@@leagueplays2100 "Lots of people built what they wanted and thought they were the best" You are literally refering to pure casuals who did not do things like lots of dungeons and raiding. Today there is more freedom with talents than there ever was in Vanilla/TBC when you were imprisoned to specific roles and builds if you wanted to do dungeons and raids most of the time
@@devincampbell5007 The fact someone like you actually enjoys retail. Sad.
The dedication, the emotion, the true love for a game. This is beautiful!
But what else could he have accomplished instead of wow fame, if he had tried?
Oh, let's not go into details @@vonvlad67
@@vonvlad67You sound envious. Either that or just projecting.. Or maybe both? Seems like you are coming from a place of self loathing or doubt? Hate to break it to ya, you’re quite easy to read.
@@vonvlad67 i think he could've been a good teacher like his dad,good memory , logical and good at explaining
"I got so mad, I had to eat a cookie!"
The way McConnell completely turned asmon around on Fall of the Lich King was great work
Wrath was shit multiple times, the only good parts about it was iic and ulduar
cata release was really awesome i remember the 5 man hc dungeons beeing a blast to clear first and even doing archievement runs with guilds. The Raids was also awesome and overall the PVE was great.
They were hard too, at least at the start
1000%
Cata went back to really hard heroics, which felt satisfying, and it had the best launch raid content in any expansion yet (BoTwilight, Blackwing Descent, Throne of Four winds, and heroic modes for those)
Sadly it just took too long for them to release the next tier, and they completely scrapped the Neptulon water tier (abyssal maw)
Hour of twilight also introduced free level 80s for returning players
I dont remeber can you explain it for me?
To this day it remains the only trailer deleted by Blizzard. Its so bad.
@@mefi5648 it was called Scroll of Resurrection, it gave players with inactive accounts the latest expansion, a free 80 and like 7 days of game time lmao
I remember this. My little brother played wow only 1x and he still has memories of his tauren blood dk in the al'akir 5man
@@BooguyTheAdept ou
Burning crusade and wrath of the lich king were when I had the most fun but thats also the only time I had friends to play with. I'm a solo player now
Idc what anyone says, I had the most fun in WotLK+ the whole Icy ass lich theme is the best till this day.
I'm happy that he restores the truth about the beginning of wod and cata, it was a good extension but their end was wasted
Man this is actually the first time I’ve completely and utterly disagreed with Admin and I can’t even complain because it’s a personal opinion, but man ICC was one of the coolest fucking raids in the game. The theme alone carried it. How you went through the different areas, seeing each death knight spec theme in each different areas (ie the frost areas, blood areas and the disease sections all as you’re fighting these constructs of the Lich king. I know a lot of people didn’t like it but that air fight was sick too. Then you get up on the lich kings platform and he’s chillin there MAAAAAN dude the vibes were immaculate. If you look at it completely objectively as a raid, take the theme away and just look at the mechanics, then of course it will suck, most of blizzards raid mechanics back then were simple but thematically is were they shined. I think ICC was one of the best raids simply for the fact that it genuinely felt like you were taking the fight directly into the heart of a vastly powerful enemy and fighting your way to the source, the music the cinematic to wrap his story, everything about that raid, personally anyway, was a 10/10. But that’s just because I personally don’t care about the raid mechanics, the theme/lore are more important for me.
This is like when people say Fallout 4 was good bc "it looks better than New Vegas"
Agreed, played since BC and Ulduar and ICC were the rust raids that ever got me genuinely excited. Ulduar is better but ICC was definitely a runner up
We need more Asmongold like this, in his element, dropping insane knowledge and 100% factual opinions. Not the bitter angry Asmon of today. Perhaps it's time to get a haircut and tryhard ICC.
I don't even play WoW, never had. But this video was entertaining AF.
Moments like this is why Asmon is on the top of twitch, im laughing so hard
gonna be a short 10 hour watch ;)
Fall of the Lich King had the best NPC RP and story out of any expansion we've ever seen. It was natural and capstoned the story at the time and nothing has come close since, in recent expansions that is more true than ever
Mists of pandaria will always have a special place in my heart.
Why? Terrible expansion in my opinion.
@@eqquito Mop was fun as hell, the classes feels amazing. You get a new race AND a new class, pokemon battle, scenario's, amazing environment. There were lots of new contents. I loved the fast levelling pace and rushing through the dungeons kept me in a "flow state". Sure there were problems with the expansion, but it beats legion imo. Even the classes felt better in wod than legion, bfa and shadowlands. The problem with wod is that u have nothing to do.
McConnel is such a good heel god bless that man
Mists of Pandaria was amazing
amen brother
FACTS. People hated on it while it lasted and now they all miss it. Mop had THE best, most exciting and balanced pvp scene ever in wow
It's understandable why many people disliked it, (mainly to talent board) but you are right, Mists was amazing.
@@exeterra4825 yes. Having to choose between 3 talents a whole 10 fricking levels, pruning classes, and dealing with overpowered monks made it totally the best PVP compared to previous expansions, what a joke.
@@kataangsucks so wrong
I tried getting into World of Warcraft when The Burning Crusade came out, but my buddy who was all-in on Warcraft at the time kept falling asleep while trying to teach me the game (he worked third shift at the time). Even though I never really got into WoW, Asmongold makes this content so fun, I can't not watch. 🤣🤣🤣
Cata 5man heroic dungeons were amazing. It forged me into the tank I am today.
The musical transition at 50:45 is incredible
I’ve never played wow. I just watch asmon for his personality
That facts I never touched wow but i watch all of his streams
You prob have a phd in wow now lol
I think he said 80% of his viewers don’t play wow but It’s hard to believe that.
Same
This is me
"I played it like it was my job" says the man who quite literally plays video games for a living
@@divinitygaming8673 he's literally talking about streaming the content for 8 hours a day... Yes, yes it was.
Northerend was amazing though. Amazing zones and content. And Spirit Beasts for hunters was pog.
Mcool and Asmongold amazing duo.
11:19 - Ive never agreed with Mcconnell so much in my entire life until this statement LUL
ICC is the best patch hands down come on now baldy
Thats 100% nostalgia talking
@@KC-py5vq it was, progressive raids is better than what wrath did
@@dkimandi no
Finally someone telling the truth about Cataclysm
Honestly Cataclysm deserves such justice. People think its AWFUL because Dragon Soul was boring and lasted for a long time, but that doesnt define the entire expansion....
I was young when cata came out and I really enjoyed it. But I was also young so who knows
FUCK LFR
tbc felt like a love letter to the fans the entire thing.
TBC was also a sort of continuation for Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal and the Blood Elf campaign for Warcraft III.
100% TBC was what WotLK wanted to be, so much so that LK couldn't even compete.
@@bos7522 wrath was way better
@@KC-py5vq only thing good in wrath was ulduar. Rest was meh
@@coolguy2242 hell no
I dont play Wow at all, but somehow I just like to watch him talk about it. He is a Wow encyclopedia. Nicee
Hot take: Dungeon finder is great, raid finder is trash
Dungeon finder is actualy good, but the raid finder is just too much lol
difficulties below mythic shouldn't exist. Problem solved in a single change.
Everyone hates dungeon finder, im just over here remembering how many dungeons I never saw, how much lore I missed because I couldnt find a group to run a dungeon with. After dungeon finder came out I was able to reroll and see all of this missed content.
This made me feel better about saying mists is my favorite expansion of all time
Alot of people are there with you dude plenty of my guildies love MoP
Wotlk my favo still but mop was my 2th pick not wrong but killing lich king was still the best experience I've ever had.
I think asmon is wrong for the b.
I always loved the story telling in the raids and dungeons.
It is so wonderful
Mists was objectively a good expansion. People didn't like the theme but mechanically and content-wise MoP was stacked.
I love listening to your videos Asmon your a pillar of WoW community ! Love it !
Too many contradictions throughout this..... and it's just wrong period....
People don’t realize half his chat wasn’t even alive in 2007
I thought corruption was pretty cool early on, how you had to balance your power to the negative effects you would get. How you could play around with gear and different corruptions for each boss you were progressing. Later on it just became a "stack x or y stat" however but... It was fun, the insane Haste made classes feel soooo fun to play
That is how min max does it, look how wow classic raiding went with world buffs, dispite being 100% optional and yet people get forced to follow meta by hardcore tryhard elitists
Yeah that’s more of the problem of the “players now” too. Min maxing is the only acceptable solution and games like WoW rewards that Behavior
Yeah it happens in M+ too. I have been kicked from +15s before they start for playing Outlaw over Sub because Sub is the MDI meta despite +15s being easy and not needing meta specs at all
@@Khranok my point exactly. It’s not a “healthy system” for players are generally only rewards toxicity. League of Legends was the same way for me
This is just two overgrown children screaching at each other. Beautiful
I like how Asmongold still plays WOW and enjoys it. In contrast, some people get bored and want to play other games, so they don’t renew their subscription unless there is a new expansion or whatever.
or never play the game, that is why he boosted his warlock gnome
WotLK 1ST patch is S tier because they listened to us and gave us what we asked for. We wanted Naxx back and nerfed, and we got it. You forgot to mention that and it plays a huge role as it reflects the different leadership and management mentalities of the different iterations we've had of Blizz. S Tier dude, no less.
Cata will always be my favorite. Asmon is so right about the beginning on cata being S teir. I will always remember watching soda on XFire while dueling him outside Org. Those where the days man...
Soda streaming and other people streaming. Was a really fun time. Exploring everything never got old. Sad to say just about everyone but 1-2 people on my full bnet friends list still plays from that time.
Same, Cata has always been my favorite until 4.3
I loved Wrath . . .
Same, everyone did. Imo the only bad thing about wrath was adding dungeon finder. Aside from that Dks and rets were nerfed later on, he's just malding about warrior being weaker lol.
@@okidj683 he was talking about WotLK start tho.
@@SMILE53335 Yeah, but he's also making the tier of the entire expansion a C based on the start alone.
@@okidj683 weak warriors? fury warriors late wotlk were op af
@@othisdede8027 Compared to Dk and pally.
"Four years from now when we're doing wrath of the lich king classic"
LMAO it's been one year and we're there, and he's already tired of the expansion.
34:30 I 100% with McConnell. I did have guild groups for some raids like Karazhan, ICC, SoO and some Legion raids but outside of that and someone who doesn't work a "traditional" 9-5 schedule it's almost impossible to find a weekend guild so LFR, while technically easy mode, allowed me to see raid content I could normally never see and on that note I didn't use it till the Throne of Thunder patch lol
I have to agree with @
Asmongold TV here! I still remember doing my first dungeon in wow BC and we went in with 3 dps DK's and 1 shadow priest and non of us was even close to dying DK's was so broken so when they fixed it I made a new DK to experience the DK as it should be
They played DK's in BC?
@@jonaspolaris7654 No that was Wrath of the Lich King
Does anyone else see the twitch names in his chat in color as classes in WoW?
You just blew my mind
No
Would be good if all of us had to change our colors accordingly haha
Patch 1.10 was the first patch I got seriously excited for. The weather did it for me lol.
first patch in and already gotta correct hyjal was in the game from the start, just nobody killed kael to unlock it. only black temple was added with that patch :p
Man youre making want to go back and play some of these again. I never got to raid in most tiers when they were current (until raid finder), but loved just about every xpac regardless of its flaws.
Honestly, I wish they hadn’t changed the classes after Wrath, they were perfect back then and should have only gained new abilities and talents instead of being changed and nerfed to heck. And Death Knights in Wrath were freaking awesome, I don’t care how Asmon felt about them. I also found having your ghoul Zerg rush your target only to blow up like a crate of dynamite hilarious, wanting to destroy your enemy by any means, even if it means nuking your own minions to do it. Ahh, will always miss those freezing nights in Northrend.
Asmon streams are really just such fun to watch been through bad mental health recently its got me through
19:42 I’m ready for the ICC judgment
Yeh marrowgar might be ez, it's the first boss. Lady deathwhisper who was the 2nd boss was hard af on HC tho and is considered the 2-3rd hardest fight in ICC
Deathbringer Saurfang was the first hard boss of ICC tbh
@@WeedStriker how so?
I think they didnt aim lady to be that hard, the spirits really blended well with the enviroment was the issue. But yea, lady fight was really hard
Cata is by far the most underrated xpac of all time, i feel like most of the people who hate on it didnt even play it, one of the best times of wow
I kinda started in wrath near the end but I fully played cata and agreed it was fantastic. Completely over hated without a doubt.
You are right. I did quit Cata 2 weeks in as it was so shit.
@@nakki123 proving my point lmao
@@shunixjump Yeah but i did quit Cata as i didnt like anything about it.
@@nakki123 you missed out because you didnt give it a fair shot, some of the best class design and pvp in wow's history
This has to be one of the best videos yet. The discussion is priceless
"Well this one fits in at F" you never fail to make me laugh. the fact i stopped playing wow a while ago but i still watch all your vids talks to how much i enjoy your content. keep rocking !
Siege of Ogrimar taught me to buckle down and get serious about being a player. I had fun as the Siege drew down, getting ready for the actual Siege. I went from being a casual PvE scrub to enjoying being apart of any Guilds that helped train people in raids who where wanting to go mythic with the seasoned Guildies.
Cata 1st patch is 100% an S tier patch/ expansion launch. Was so much fun to play at launch and stopped not to long after the nerfs, Just made the game less fun
Honestly McConnel bringing up the mage in naxx was a good ass fucking counterpoint
41:27 50:41 music always have a good timing
ive never laughed so hard at asmongold in my life lmao!!!
ICC was the peak of WoW’s design to me. The Lich King appeared through out the expansion and then finally we get to his fort and have to fight to the top to kill him, each floor getting closer and closer. The fights were fun and memorable.
My top 3 raids: 1. ICC 2. Kara 3. Firelands
Woah no ulduar?
@@toraso842 right?! He should be ashamed of himself 😂 for me it’s 1: Ulduar 2:ICC 3: Classic Naxx
isle of queldanas zone pvp was some rad shit man, like full s2 geared with s3 wep pvping to protect your raider friends doing dailys :D
THAT DONO AT THE END OMEGALUL
Death knights had to be op at the start. First hero class.
@Generic Username ill agree to disagree. They wanted a hero clase. They made one and did too well of a job. Powerful enough to solo group quests played right it was crazy. It didnt jive with the way the game was being built though so now it isnt very heroic anymore.
Cata is what killed WoW for me. I started playing in vanilla when I was like 13. By the time cata hit I was 19 or 20. Some very formative years. If times were bad I could always go home to azeroth. It became a place of comfort. I could just log on and run around the zones I liked and pick herbs or fish or whatever. And then cata came and they decided it would be a good idea to have a big stupid dragon come destroy the world I had come to know and love for nearly half of my life. I could no longer go to my favorite spots. My azeroth was gone. It was like blizzard had decided to put one last nail in the coffin. One final "fuck you" to the players who loved the challenge of actually using CC and watching threat meters and wiping on progression. They had been making the game more and more casual friendly for years which is fine but it seemed to have lost all the challenge. Hence the term "wrath babies" coming to be known. By cata it seems they had gone so far into that design choice that they wanted to get rid of the world too, just like how they had successfully gotten rid of most of the origonal playerbase. So they did. They sent a big stupid dragon to get rid of the last of us. And it worked.
Compared to other MMO's from the late 90s and early 2000s, Vanilla WoW was as casual friendly as it gets. Classic showed us that the game wasn't challenging; the playerbase was just bad. Personally, I haven't touched WoW or any Blizz game since MoP but I'm fairly certain current retail content on Mythic is more challenging than anything you did in Vanilla or TBC
@@folk-comrade bug and bad design was the truth challenge of vanilla :D
BC was heart stopping when we entered that portal
The most fun I had raiding and being with the guild I was with was absolutely secrets of ulduar. God I had a blast there man
Cata was my 2nd favorite to TBC because I did the most raiding and content clear in that exp. It was hard and awesome to me.
Blizzard lost so many subs in cata... I was one of many.
Personally I thought it sucked
@@BattousaiHBr i mean if they re release cata classic(with redone patch 4.3) or mop without LFR and balanced shit WoW would blew in subs again lol
@@BattousaiHBr I came back a the end of cata to do some top tier raids with the guild and see if my quitting after so many years was valid, and apart from a couple of zones that were nice to look at. most of everything was pretty shitty.
I didn't like how they changed the classes.
excluding rend spread for protection.
Firelands bored the pants off me after a month. as I didn't watch any vids on it and jumped right in and hardly messed up any mechanics. it did not get harder.
The 5mans were not as interesting as even the prior ones.
LFG had separated people so much that it was less about doing things together and just about loot grabbing to hang out in cities bragging. there was no build testing. as most classes had obvious choices.
The fact I was geared in the first month I started back and then was left to wanted the world with nothing to do or lvl an alt got old fast.
and the content its self left me wanting more. some of the mechanic requires people to communicate but LFG killed that for daily 5mans were a chore... overall it was boring.
so I quit again.. I came back to mop at the end and the zones were amazing 5mans were ok but over all it was just as flat as cata. have not played since.
If cata was so good then why was that the turning point for blizz to haemorrhage subs??
@@BattousaiHBr if the game was good it would have better numbers.
Sure life played a huge part in it, for me I was sat on 100k no rent and was best druid on 3 servers, I was in the top 5 with my lock, mage. my wow life was rocking! I was hyped and excited for all the new content.
it did not last long.
I played with 12 other friends locally and they too left cata after playing wow from day 1.
All my guild members had the same thoughts. many of them left around the same time.
yes the LK died but wow was all about team play that was stripped when LFG was introduced.. it became pocketed and guilds hung with guilds and trade/global became not much more than advertising
@@Maradnus LFG was introduced in Lich King 3.3 btw
Honestly thought northrend questing was awesome. I have had a blast doing chromie leveling through wrath content. Going back and doing time walking through end game cata zones is rough tbh. The revamp to the old zones was good. I think end game cata zones lack polish that even wrath zones had. I think if you compare questing , wrath shits all over cata. Alliance twilight highlands is crap, worse than the weakest classic zones.
way more people played WC 3 then WC 2. We all knew Arthas' backstory more or less, which made him a better character. Blizzard didn't spend any time in Cata letting us "get to know" Deathwing... or the Twilight's Hammer, really; which sucks, because the Twilight's Hammer had some of the best art/design ever.
True, Wrath questing was a beautiful experience in the northlands. Northrend was one of the best quest hubs for its time.
Cataclysm was ruined by the fact that it was just scattered old zones in the old world.
Twilight Highlands was forgettable and sucked
However, the water zone was fucking awesome. I know it's divisive because some dorks can't handle the 3d pathing or w/e, but it was very very cool going through all these depths and mariana trenches and whatnot - once you got out of the kelp forest it was amazing
@@cole8834 they kinda ruined Deathwing's character
He was smart and sinister before, and they turned him into a "brute" archetype and he came off dumb imo
I was excited by the revamp, I thought it was exactly what we needed, but it turned out thag Cata revamped zones were ass! The questing was hand holding bullshit and it no longer felt like WoW to me. Still I held out until MoP before I realized there was nothing left of the game world I used to love.
Cataclysm's biggest sin was following up wotlk, this video supports how good the xpac really was
I like how the music qeued when he brought up dungeon finder.
That long rant about Tyrande in Landfall perfectly describes what they did to Sylvanas starting in Legion.
Meh, Tbf here, Sylvanas has always been doing shady shit. But now she’s doing shit with Dr Evil as her boss
For me, who personally play a solitary experience by choice, Patch 5.1 Landfall actually made a huge difference as it was the patch which removed the raid group restrictions for old end-game content, as it id away with the need to be in a raid group to even enter the raid in the first place. This opened up so much for me because I could finally see what a lot of those old content raids looked like as I finally wrapped up storylines I had lingering in the quest log since back in TBC.
Trial of the crusader gave us lord jarraxxus, and that's all I need from it. YOU FACE JARRAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION
Firelands... man... that shit was SOOOO cool, felt like everyday or week I was unlocking some cool new shit that I didn't know about, felt like a real cool journey
So agree with Cataclysm expansion classification. It was insane when it came out with so much to do, especially if one was willing to begin from scratch and experience the new world content. The raids were brilliant and challenging. And yes, the 5 man dungeons were varied and HARD! Completing anyone of them gave you a true sense of accomplishment. Too bad Blizz caved to the cry babies and nerfed things after a short time :(
saying they were too hard was a valid complaint, blizz messed up in wotlk by making everything way too easy so they overcompensated on difficulty in cataclysm
My heart melted when you gave Mists of Pandaria an S 💕 everyone calls me a fool for thinking it but I knew I wasn't alone!
Best expansion ever!
@@thedoyla well you are kinda of idiot nobody like that shit
You are not alone, but you are a damned fool. Mists of Pandaland was garbage, completely destroying the warcraft feel permanently, just to try and give their chinese players something that felt familiar.
G a r b a g e.
@@thedoyla To me, the raids was boring as fk in Pandaria. The zones was good, some dungeons was good, but the theme of most raids was not in my taste.
3:30 ZA was the first real 10 man. And easy to get ppl together for it. But, great layout, challenging fights. Mount loot. I ran a lot of pugs for that. Lots of wipes.
that soft "ooh" at 33:25 from my boy mcconnell. lmaao
I agree with asmon cataclysm launch dungeons were great. You had to actually do the mechanics and use cc. Even the rest of the dungeons released throughout the expansion were fun. Just my opinion though.
wrath was one of the best expansions ever...
"THe prepatch was baaaaad"
nah people just hate fun lmao
the beginning was brutal sure but 3.3 is legit the best in the whole gaming industry.
@@GuiltyNoticer 3.1*
Agreed wrath was better than tbc
@@networkoperations he already put that in S, moron.