The interesting thing about AF Kay is that it was nerfed shortly before it was revealed. We can tell this because the reveal video shows it giving +3/+3 to minions instead of +2/+2
@@kanegregory5779 I get why a board of +3/+3 meant it was an OTK. Presuming 6 targetd that meant it was a board of 4/4s meaning if you had a swarm it was doing 24 damage the next turn. That means it was likely immediately killing the opponent.
For AFKay they probably thought "Okay, the Big Taunt decks are just not going to attack at all and get their taunts super big" but never considered how they are supposed to win the game
Some tips about the theme of the classes. Kind of tells you how you'd play the tourists. Mage - deep ocean water theme about large spell cheating and damaging spells Paladin - a beach theme about playing alot of low-cost spells (which i guess represents shallow water), specifically the drinks and the sunscreens. Rouge - Pirate thief theme about getting coins, treasure and other classes cards which can be argued is treasure. Warlock - a sacrificing for power theme. About doing what it takes for power. Death Knight - a freezing to death theme that rewards freezing and your minions dying. Shaman - a talent show/ tricks / entertainment theme about having a wide array of spell schools. Demon Hunter - A Thrill seeking theme about attacking specifically with your hero putting yourself into dangerous situations. Priest - a mystic sauna theme about damaging yourself to be aggressive and Mystically setting up combos. Hunter - a bird Jungle theme about repeating things and being agressive in the wild. Warrior - Food theme all about handbuffing minions. Druid - a theme about climbing a mountain focused being above in terms of mana ramp and taunts that are difficult to get over.
@S1NNER48 I mean some of the themes this set are kind of their default. Warlock is kind of the same which ironically is the rouge tourist. I mean kind of hard to not pick the pirate treasure theme for rouge in a island themed set.
@@ShadowRaZeV1 No, you want to get rid of left over Halloween candy even more when it's been in the cupboard for a month. You start sneaking it into people's jacket pockets before they leave.
I don't think I have ever seen so many S and A tier Legendaries in an expansion before. And I think all the Tourists should be S tier just because they enable more cards.
Honestly, I think quite a lot of these cards will be featured in Zeddy's future "How was I so wrong about these cards?" video. As far as Tourists go, in terms of competitiveness they do not all deserve S tier. I'm imagining that no competitive DK or Rogue deck will use a Tourist at all because neither the Tourist themselves nor the cards they can access are particularly good. While I also don't think that Hunter or Mage will be too keen on accessing cards via their Tourist either. Maybe in terms of fun, they are S tier because you can make unique decks using extra cards. But tier lists tend to be about how good they are not how funny they are.
Oh man...I am already seeing decks that play both Carress and Cookie to get Carress the Fel and Fire triggered effects and make her the turn 5 screw all of the enemies card.
Well I did see that it had alot of synergy with both cheap drinks and the sunscreen cards. So maybe you can make a deck with minions that want a bunch of spells cast.
23:57 "maybe im overrating some os these" Geeez you think ??? why bother with a tier list if you going to rank everything in S or A ... Also just pointing out, this expansion has 1 of the lowest preorders recorded in HS history ,so either people just got bored of the game or your WAY OVERHYPED for these cards . Heck i would love to be wrong and this expansion turning out to be a crazy good one.
Incindius is going to be a win con for warrior. Mega draw and control like old reno warrior and you can dupe it once with voone and dupe it with zola. Could possibly play 4 of them in 1 game with no brann
You talking about the death knight card? I think he is 100% right at rank b since the deck falls apart if you don't play it around turn 4 or if the card gets removed without triggering.
@@byrondejong9872 you are more stupid than you think, you will regret that you underestimate this legendary, as I said zeddy has the brain of an insect, he does not know how to list each level for these legendary, I also said how you can make this legendary pirate come to you in hand, but you don't read everything I write here, there is an epic that pulls a pirate from your package!!!!!
@@byrondejong9872 it seems that you are one of those amateurs who have not played and have no experience in hearthstone, children, I have been playing since the game was released, I have tested and had over 10,000 packs, and I know the potential of each one, I know all the mechanics, so not to say that the books that are cataloged at level b have reached level a or s, many will still think that this legendary pirate deserves his place at level b, you will really see how useful this legendary is, the only problem of players is that they don't know how to make their strategy in the deck of cards, I told this to someone who asked for advice, you could do that and read everything I wrote to the others, it all depends on you, if not you play the cards in a time interval when you can fuse their effects, normally you will lose, the cards of 4 hands will always end up in your hand for at least 2 or 5 turns, if you crowd your deck with many doublings of 5/6 /7/8/9/10 hand you will never get that book!!
@@byrondejong9872 believe me, I also ran into this problem for quite a long time, crowding the deck with duplicates of many cards, if you really want to have a lot of success with this pirate and win constant matches, the only strategy is not to exceed 6 mana of a card in your deck, it's the only chance you can get constant victories, there are also dredge cards, you can use this card as well, but there are 2 other cards, one of unholy rune and one of blood that discovers a minion and they adapt with every main update of the game, and you can have it in your hand!!
Party Planner Vona it's like that Mage minion from the last core set, spell damage +2 give a random minion in your hand +2 spell damage. When was the last card got to see play?
What game is Zeddy thinking of when talking about Buttons? Blood and Unholy aren't spell schools lmao. Death Knight has 2 spell schools, Frost and Shadow and they can put in the 2 spells from Shaman that are Nature and Fire (But both suck horribly so why would you?) It's mostly a 5 mana 5/5 draw 2 that lets you put garbage cards into your DK deck that have no synergy with anything DK wants to do.
It opens more spell schools. It's up to you if that's worth it. Not every deck will have to have a tourist. Siren song can get you spells schools you don't have. There's also other cards that can get specific spell schools. Natural talent can possibly pull a spell school you don't have and gives nature. Razzle dazzler let's you summon alot of 5 cost minions Cabaret star does its thing based on what you played. Cabaret headliner can reduce the cost of spells.
@@barcster2003 The issue is, that all of this requires you to rely on randomly generated stuff from Siren Song and Natural Talent to be worth anything. Meanwhile, Buttons is still garbage because Siren Song itself has no school. DK has better things to do than hoping they draw Siren Song and hoping to get some non-garbage spells. Meanwhile everything else from Shaman is a dead draw until then.
Eliza and King Tide, my guess, should be in Tier-S... And Patches looks a bit overrated... But this expansion brings really great cards... Good game all😊
Can someone link me a guide for setting up your deck or fighting. He said, "playing for board," and I have no idea what that means. I thought AFK was a good card. If you have taunt minions out, it can just keep buffing everything.
My thoughts All the tourists are good. AFKay - Because it's end of turn, i think you are wrong. Swarm and get + 12 damage for 5 mana while also making that swarm survive. Buttons - Shaman Tourist the draw can help the spell school theme Carefree Cookie - Demon hunter tourist and transforming the swarm minions is powerful. Caress cabaret star - the effects seem pretty good. Chillin voljin - Hunter Tourist and you really want those hunter cards. The swap will wreck those handbuff decks when you take it for your aggeession. Cruise captain lora - there are some good locations i think the issue is lora costs too much i think they can just straight reduce the cost to 6. Eliza goreblade - nutty it says for the rest of the game. Gorgonzormu - nutty in dragon priest 3 cheese turns + zarimi is gameover. Grifftah trused vendor - its a good card. I do think some classes get more out of it for sure. Like priest and hunter can copy with parrot. Hamm - insane eats a minion and is a druid tourist. If it eats the right minion your opponent will be crying. Incindius - can but nuts but slow.
King tide - I think you need to want to cheat a spell out for this to be worth. Maestra - warlock tourist + hero cards it's incredible. Marin the manager - you can already play this and it's great. Mistah Vista - mage tourist possibly the most broken card. People forget he may be replaying 3 16 mana turns. Narain Soothfancy - great card at worst it gives you info about the top card of your deck and let's you play 2 extra copies of your top card. Party planner vonna - I think people forget to keep getting the oroburos you have to have a minion in hand. Patches the pilot - seems good but I guess you might not draw the parachutes meaning its a 1/1 for 1. Ranger gilly - warrior tourist I think people are overlooking it. But it's defintely meant for a handbuff hunter. Raylla, sans sculptor - paladin tourist can get both cheap drinks and has a bunch of those cheap buffs. Sanc'azel - just straight up a good card. Sasquawk- looks incredible. If it's good priest can copy it a ton of times. Summoner darkmarrow - death knight tourist and yeah if you love deathrattles like the oroburos. Sunsapper Lynessa - rouge tourist and incredible I totally forgot this would double the coins effect but also those sunscreens are now + 2/+4 for 1 cost. The ryecleaver - Its insane mana cheat and I think you might be able to build around it but man I think if you pull this off it might be nuts. Treasure hunter Eudora - easy to proc because of tourist mechanic. I guess it comes down to how badly do you want the treasure.
I guess it'll depend on order. If you play AF Kay first, she'll trigger before Gnome Muncher. If you played Gnome Muncher first he'll attack before AF Kay's effect triggers (And likely prevent it from affecting him)
AF Kay isn't that bad. Since most cards come in and can't attack anyway on turn one anyway. Plus Titans can't attack until they use all three abilities. plus any frozen cards that can't attack. There are a lot of way she can be used for quick buffs of your whole board. its not guaranteed she'll be able to stay on the board long enough to do much but there are certainly ways she could be used effectively. No way is she an F tier. She's not S tier either. just very situational. but if you can work your deck around it she might be very effective in the clutch.
when I will have over 20 crystal mana for the druid, be sure that with that legendary elemental mixed with 20 replicas then put 7 each on the battlefield, let's see if it is still level b as this zeddy catalogs it as a card of level b, all the books that rank b or a in other future updates can become rank s+ or s++!!!
One note on Rye Cleaver: It costs 7 mana, meaning it can be put into Baku warrior decks. And I say this as a guy who just hit legend for the first time ever this month with a Baku warrior deck that used Odin for a win condition. Tanking up for 4 mana a turn and having all the control spells warrior has right now means that Rye Cleaver most likely has a home in that style of deck. Whether or not people will want it is another question. In the deck I used, eight of the fourteen minions in my deck had battlecries that would get cancelled by getting summoned by Ryecleaver. Admittedly one of them is General Vezax, so I'd only lose the four armor if he got summoned...so maybe count that as seven out of fourteen instead.
Zeddy why is hearthstone not any fun anymore? Remember the good old days of grinding it out to fatigue? Running into Trump on ladder with an all golden freeze mage or fire bat with some insane aggro Hunter deck? I have played since beta, have a collection of 611 pages of cards and cringe everytime I play anymore. I really hope the new set breathes a little life into it for me cause the 10yr anniversary is turning into a funeral for me.
While you could argue a tier up or down on a lot of these... I think Griftah is a way over valued. The "phony" version your opponent gets is also most of the time pretty good. I think he is as bad as AFK because you give your opponent decent value also. I do not see him seeing much play at all.
I think these tourist cards are a huge dust sink since you have so many other cards that rely on them. Overall I think this will be bad for the game because it continues to force people to only invest in the best archetypes due to how expensive everything is. Now I know some people will point to cheap aggro decks that are effective but to me that isn't fun. I feel like a few of these are probably ranked too high but I guess we see how it pans out. I have a pessimistic outlook for the game but I'm going to keep playing.
I have only one exception to point out, if that legendary pirate for death knight and that legendary elemental as you consider it to be level b, you are probably referring to the fact that it may not come to your hand in time to be able to do that combo with him, or do you consider that the chances are too small to merge with the effect of these cards, but you are making a big mistake, I have already made the formula of the card pack that I will make for that pirate including that elemental!!
That elemental is going to be able to make so many combos. Going to do a draw heavy warrior deck with voone and zola. Can even run the new draw card for each minion type.
The rogue legendaries seem pretty bad. Tourist mechanic may be worth it but replaying all rogue cards usually just screws you and Maestra is 6 mana do nothing and there’s a good chance the hero card you get may not even be impactful. Idt random duels treasures are that good but who knows for Eudora.
Scorpion and velorak are just so much better with Tess idt you’d put any of the new legendaries in a strictly competitive deck. The other new burgle cards support velorak and scorpion better also.
Eudora is pretty easy to activate just play it in tourist and you already have cards from another class. Maestra I need to look at the pool but there's defintely some great hero cards in there.
AFK is a lot better than people seem to think it is. a 5 mana 5 health minion that gives your other minions a 2/2 buff EVERY turn is really good in the right deck, and the right deck will indeed exist. Get ready for AFK to become pretty hated, cuz when people draw it against you, you're probably gonna lose.
It only buffs them if they don't attack. Which means it's really only buffing non-rush, non-charge minions that you play that turn. And it doesn't buff them til the end of the turn, so you can't make use of the extra stats til the following turn. I'm not sure anything that slow has ever been effective or powerful in Hearthstone.
First card, and I already hard disagree with Zeddy. I see AFK in a token-heavy deck that keeps flooding the board. And look, a certain class got a bunch of support for that this expansion. I could also see AF Kay in token Druid when Blizzard inevitably adds the token support again. Remember the Naga who gave minions 1/2 if you played a Nature spell while holding her? Kay is better in many circumstances, and token Druid loves flooding with newly spawn tokens
Afk would work in a non reno and other full clear. Hard sweepers more importantly they also farted on warrior so hard because they still managed to break it with the mutanis guy only combo will win again and hunter gets caught in the crossfire :( I'm calling the meta now it will be bs fun police control warrior and a priest tourist deck featuring 6000 1 drops and zarimi and pip the potent into i into 1drop avalanche combo
I actually think AFKay will be better than he thinks says end of turn so as long as you can produce a swarm her effect will go off. Swarm + AFKay = means a board of 6 4/4s. That's 24 face damage if you wait a turn. There's also ways to reduce the cost of AFKay.
@@MinoriGaming twilight medium also you may not have to reduce the cost. Already have a board just play afk and don't attack for 1 time get +12 damage.
For Sanc'Azel, i don't think it's that good. 5 mana for +3 atk and rush to a friendly minion is not good, while 3/8 is not very good at trading and removing opponents' minions. Buffing and trading you can probably do it 1-2 times before Sanc'Azel died. But I can totally see the best case is your opponents have a full board of 0/3, and they end their turn while letting you have a 1/1 minion alive. You play Sanc'Azel, buff the 1/1 minion you have, turn into a minion and take out their 0/3, repeating this 7 times, and then go face with your super buffed 25/1 minion.
I think you're forgetting that one of the main archetypes for Paladin right now is Handbuff. At its base, 5 mana 3/8 Rush that can then buff a minion by 3 attack is bad. But when you've handbuffed it to like 10 attack and then you have a 10/15 Rush that can then buff another minion by 10 attack... You start to be able to OTK with Charge minions like Leeroy and Deckhand. Especially if combined with Outfit Tailor for more attack and Deckhand can be given Windfury with the new Pirate too.
Buttons is terrible - Blood, Unholy, and Frost are not spell schools. The only spell schools DK has are Frost and Shadow. If we run the drink from Shaman we can at best draw three cards - two of our own, and the fire drink. Buttons is B tier at BEST for DK, probably closer to C. It would have to be like 3 or 4 mana to be worthy of A tier...and even then it's a mediocre effect for a legendary in 2024. The Eliza and Helya comparison is perfect though - Eliza will probably be in every rainbow DK deck because it's just a passively good effect but not good enough to build a deck around. I would probably put it down at C though if I'm being honest...just a very underwhelming effect and with no way to tutor it out requires you to draw it super early or see 0 value. Incindius in Brann is going to be absolutely insane. It's just a passive 20 damage assuming they don't Zola it. If you Zola Incindius in a Brann deck, you have 30 cards that are going to do 4 damage to ALL enemies. I think Zola is now an auto include in Brann warrior because of how many new targets they have for it. Incindius, Hamm, Boomboss and Inventor Boom are now a targets because of the increase mana cap...hell, even Yogg and Ziliax are targets for Zola because Warrior will have 13 mana cap. I personally believe that Brann Warrior is going to be the most toxic thing for the first few weeks of the xpack until things eventually get nerfed because of Brann.
these statistics ranked at each level separately, it is totally wrong, you put legendary cards that are not for the respective class, you will realize their potential when you play with them, these statistics do not represent anything at all, it is just a useless graph that does not it makes sense!!
@@rougeric87 you don't understand, these statistics are decided by the level of these cards, but some people like this zeddy categorize all the s or a rank cards as f or b rank cards, meaning they are the weakest, as a result it is not fun, these statistics are made so that there are finally some votes, the c, f, and b rank books are mediocre books!!
@@rougeric87 what part do you think is funny about a statistics graph, which indicates the position of some books, I really don't see or understand this part so funny?!!
@@alexex8169 I don't understand what you mean. If you want to measure how strong a card is by the means of statistics, you will need numbers and data, which we will get after lot of games have been played with those cards, but even then, statistics on hearthstone cards don't always say a lot because some cards are conditionally good because of a certain meta, synergies or counter.. I'm talking about "fun" because this type of videos are just "fun theorizing" about how good some cards will be, some people like and have fun in theory crafting decks or predicting the power of some cards. Anyway, I think there's some language barriers here or you're looking too deep into this. Enjoy your week!
@@rougeric87 my friend, you don't understand, the theory has nothing to do with what these books do, I understood that it's a censorship in the middle, but statistically speaking you can't catalog a rank book to be rank b, in any way, even if it's a bad joke, the cards that will be above the level of expectations, will be seen when you win many matches, and the nerfs for such cards are not very useful, they change the effect for nothing because an opening will always be created!!
@@esscate 0/5. She doesn't buff herself. Also, not "Every card you play" because the majority of cards that are played have Rush and trade into something. Even more so after 5 mana, where even something like Burrow Buster just freely removes her before you can summon something alongside her...
I really don’t understand the hype over Voljin. Everyone talks about board stats being worthless in modern hearthstone but this time it’s good? And it’s not like the Hunter cards are that amazing for what priest wants to do, we’ve already got a lot of copy effects. We need win conditions, not more gimmicks.
don't be too happy too early, there are only 4 classes in this update that will dominate you from all points of view, Druid, Death Knight, Warlock and Priest, the rest are only proportional inferiorities!!
Yeah, everyone is overrating Vol'jin. Even in the best case scenario you can swap ONE big minion like a Giant or Handbuff Pally minion with one of your own minions. Which even as a best case scenario, is an absolute garbage card. Like, literally all of the Origami cards are 100x better than this and they see no play. The only reason to ever run Vol'jin, is to access Hunter cards.
@@tarille1043 the idea that this card was designed in this update only to mock the opponent, in no case should it be a buff that will keep you mobile until you finish the match, but zeddy makes wrong statistics of those levels, you cannot catalog that legendary pirate for death knight and neither that legendary b-rank elemental, they are s-rank, but he thinks they won't work, wait for the update to be released and see the results then, if I think about it, the biggest buff are these 3 legendaries this undead pirate, that elemental and that legendary 5 mana per druid, the rest are just for decoration!!
@@joshualegacy563 I don't mean to do the fusions with that elemental on the shaman, I recommend you on the druid extend your crystal hand to 20, and at the end copy and mix that elemental of about 25/30 replicas and when they come into your hand put them on the field you will have a total of 35 spells that you then mix in the package, they upgrade them after your turn, think how much damage you give for one, the upgrade being divided among 7 elementals on your battlefield, the effect of that spell is quadrupled!!
I do think people underestimating AFKay are going to get rolled. Easy combo for priest is lightbug. The 1 cost lightbug to summon 6 lightbugs summon afk you now have a 18/18 lifesteal board for 6.
I'm going out on a limb here: I don't think the new Druid Tourist is that good. I think the best thing about the Druid Tourist is that Warrior can run Druid cards. Might not impact the board much, doesn't disrupt opponents hand; it's on average a really expensive Gnomeferatu that only hits minions, which is better, but not gamebreaking. Pin this so everyone can laugh at me when I'm proven wrong
I think the card is weak, but is what warrior wants to play right now. They don't really care if it's bad tempo and very slow because they have Zilliax, Reno and the great wall of taunts to make sure you can't punish them for playing an awful card like that. And it may win you the game on the spot against tough match ups like Sif mage. I think it's a bad card but the current warrior meta will make it work
It's not amazing. But it's not bad. Warrior already wants to play a slow game where they beat out other slow decks because of Boomboss. Hamm plays into that. While it won't often do much besides eat a single minion, a single minion could still be impactful. Like, you eat the enemies Yogg? Now they can't answer Unkilliax. You eat the enemies Unkilliax? How will they deal with your threats? You can eat something like Aman'thul, Primus, Elise, Helya, Reska and weaken the opponent a lot. Heck, even something small like eating an Excavate minion can still be impactful as that prevents a second Excavate reward for a DK. It sucks against meta aggro decks, which is what Warrior is currently weak to. So it's a question of whether you want to go full control or try and build to help fight aggro. Of course, Druid cards are what make it desirable. Of which there are some really strong Druid cards for Warrior to use, though again these are still mostly for slower matchups.
He could eat an unimportant minion or eat a win condition and win the game on its own. And being a Tourist means he will be played in every Warrior deck to use New Hieghts, so he will get to decied a lot of games by luck.
The interesting thing about AF Kay is that it was nerfed shortly before it was revealed. We can tell this because the reveal video shows it giving +3/+3 to minions instead of +2/+2
@@kanegregory5779 I get why a board of +3/+3 meant it was an OTK. Presuming 6 targetd that meant it was a board of 4/4s meaning if you had a swarm it was doing 24 damage the next turn. That means it was likely immediately killing the opponent.
I'm actually surprised they didn't make it the free legendary in the rewards track. It's what they usually do
For AFKay they probably thought "Okay, the Big Taunt decks are just not going to attack at all and get their taunts super big" but never considered how they are supposed to win the game
Force the opponent to concede.
My giant board full of beefy taunts when the end of days is finally upon me:
Well....if you summon like 6 other minions somehow....without charge...they all get +2/2 that turn before they can attack anyway?
what if you get your minions frozen and you cant attack even if you want too? AFKay turns that into advantage
@@sebastianchavez1225That's an insanely situational advantage lmao
Some tips about the theme of the classes. Kind of tells you how you'd play the tourists.
Mage - deep ocean water theme about large spell cheating and damaging spells
Paladin - a beach theme about playing alot of low-cost spells (which i guess represents shallow water), specifically the drinks and the sunscreens.
Rouge - Pirate thief theme about getting coins, treasure and other classes cards which can be argued is treasure.
Warlock - a sacrificing for power theme. About doing what it takes for power.
Death Knight - a freezing to death theme that rewards freezing and your minions dying.
Shaman - a talent show/ tricks / entertainment theme about having a wide array of spell schools.
Demon Hunter - A Thrill seeking theme about attacking specifically with your hero putting yourself into dangerous situations.
Priest - a mystic sauna theme about damaging yourself to be aggressive and Mystically setting up combos.
Hunter - a bird Jungle theme about repeating things and being agressive in the wild.
Warrior - Food theme all about handbuffing minions.
Druid - a theme about climbing a mountain focused being above in terms of mana ramp and taunts that are difficult to get over.
Rogue..
@S1NNER48 I mean some of the themes this set are kind of their default. Warlock is kind of the same which ironically is the rouge tourist.
I mean kind of hard to not pick the pirate treasure theme for rouge in a island themed set.
Zeddy going crazy with the S-tier. Handing them out like Halloween candy in December. 😅
I do think the set is pretty powerful.
You mean October?
@@ShadowRaZeV1 No, you want to get rid of left over Halloween candy even more when it's been in the cupboard for a month. You start sneaking it into people's jacket pockets before they leave.
@@gman963 oh LMAO that makes sense 🤣
King Tide is like an extra Loatheb in Wild for all the miracle decks
The power level of this expansion shot up compared to the most recent expansions
So many crazy legendaries this set
Thanks for the tier list Zeddy!
My favourite is Ham, the hungry, not so much for it's power, but rather for meme potential. Cannot wait.
Hmm i wonder why there is no new video at 3pm cest, surely there is no announcement inc later today!
I don't think I have ever seen so many S and A tier Legendaries in an expansion before. And I think all the Tourists should be S tier just because they enable more cards.
Honestly, I think quite a lot of these cards will be featured in Zeddy's future "How was I so wrong about these cards?" video.
As far as Tourists go, in terms of competitiveness they do not all deserve S tier.
I'm imagining that no competitive DK or Rogue deck will use a Tourist at all because neither the Tourist themselves nor the cards they can access are particularly good. While I also don't think that Hunter or Mage will be too keen on accessing cards via their Tourist either.
Maybe in terms of fun, they are S tier because you can make unique decks using extra cards. But tier lists tend to be about how good they are not how funny they are.
These cards present the most difficult deck building challenges of all time.
I do like some of the opportunites.
Oh man...I am already seeing decks that play both Carress and Cookie to get Carress the Fel and Fire triggered effects and make her the turn 5 screw all of the enemies card.
Raylla, the mage card with tourist, could conceivably be good on some sort of Flamewaker deck. Good luck fitting it in your deck!
Well I did see that it had alot of synergy with both cheap drinks and the sunscreen cards.
So maybe you can make a deck with minions that want a bunch of spells cast.
This is one of the few expansions where i just want to craft the entire list of legends
Looking at Vona. I've been trying it in Insanity Warlock and it's pretty okay! Not incredible as far as I can tell but it's fun
23:57 "maybe im overrating some os these" Geeez you think ??? why bother with a tier list if you going to rank everything in S or A ... Also just pointing out, this expansion has 1 of the lowest preorders recorded in HS history ,so either people just got bored of the game or your WAY OVERHYPED for these cards . Heck i would love to be wrong and this expansion turning out to be a crazy good one.
A. F. Kay is gonna see play in deathrattle aggro decks. Build a board of sticky minions, when you need to trade you drop her.
I forgot about deathrattle deck that resummons minions.
I would imagine Sanc'Azel is pronounced like Sand Castle considering the artwork.
Warrior Hunter is gonna be fairly strong. Imagine fatigue warrior, except instead of gaining 2 HP every turn, it sucks your hp away every turn
I would put all tourist cards at S tier simply because of deck building accessibility of it.
Incindius is going to be a win con for warrior. Mega draw and control like old reno warrior and you can dupe it once with voone and dupe it with zola. Could possibly play 4 of them in 1 game with no brann
rogue seems exiting to me , looking forward to it !
Well rouge get super easy access to play card from another class cards because you can tourist.
Lots of legendaries are very powerful. The meta is going be crazy.
I think even AFKay can work.
Hey Zeddy,you will be very sorry that you ranked that legendary pirate at rank b, you will actually see how things are in the matches!!
You talking about the death knight card? I think he is 100% right at rank b since the deck falls apart if you don't play it around turn 4 or if the card gets removed without triggering.
@@byrondejong9872 you are more stupid than you think, you will regret that you underestimate this legendary, as I said zeddy has the brain of an insect, he does not know how to list each level for these legendary, I also said how you can make this legendary pirate come to you in hand, but you don't read everything I write here, there is an epic that pulls a pirate from your package!!!!!
@@byrondejong9872 it seems that you are one of those amateurs who have not played and have no experience in hearthstone, children, I have been playing since the game was released, I have tested and had over 10,000 packs, and I know the potential of each one, I know all the mechanics, so not to say that the books that are cataloged at level b have reached level a or s, many will still think that this legendary pirate deserves his place at level b, you will really see how useful this legendary is, the only problem of players is that they don't know how to make their strategy in the deck of cards, I told this to someone who asked for advice, you could do that and read everything I wrote to the others, it all depends on you, if not you play the cards in a time interval when you can fuse their effects, normally you will lose, the cards of 4 hands will always end up in your hand for at least 2 or 5 turns, if you crowd your deck with many doublings of 5/6 /7/8/9/10 hand you will never get that book!!
@@byrondejong9872 believe me, I also ran into this problem for quite a long time, crowding the deck with duplicates of many cards, if you really want to have a lot of success with this pirate and win constant matches, the only strategy is not to exceed 6 mana of a card in your deck, it's the only chance you can get constant victories, there are also dredge cards, you can use this card as well, but there are 2 other cards, one of unholy rune and one of blood that discovers a minion and they adapt with every main update of the game, and you can have it in your hand!!
23:40 What are duels treasures?
I think incindius could be good in elemental mage with that 2 drop that discounts your next elemental
Party Planner Vona it's like that Mage minion from the last core set, spell damage +2 give a random minion in your hand +2 spell damage. When was the last card got to see play?
Aegwynn was played a fair bit
I think it will work particularly since the warlock tourist can double deathrattles meaning you can get a swarm of them.
2:30 5.5 btw.
What game is Zeddy thinking of when talking about Buttons? Blood and Unholy aren't spell schools lmao.
Death Knight has 2 spell schools, Frost and Shadow and they can put in the 2 spells from Shaman that are Nature and Fire (But both suck horribly so why would you?)
It's mostly a 5 mana 5/5 draw 2 that lets you put garbage cards into your DK deck that have no synergy with anything DK wants to do.
This
This is all of my thoughts on buttons exactly
Yeah buttons is stupid they really butchered him, shoulda gave him another effect like +2 spell damage atleast or just made him 3 mana draw up to 3
It opens more spell schools. It's up to you if that's worth it. Not every deck will have to have a tourist.
Siren song can get you spells schools you don't have.
There's also other cards that can get specific spell schools.
Natural talent can possibly pull a spell school you don't have and gives nature.
Razzle dazzler let's you summon alot of 5 cost minions
Cabaret star does its thing based on what you played.
Cabaret headliner can reduce the cost of spells.
@@barcster2003 The issue is, that all of this requires you to rely on randomly generated stuff from Siren Song and Natural Talent to be worth anything.
Meanwhile, Buttons is still garbage because Siren Song itself has no school.
DK has better things to do than hoping they draw Siren Song and hoping to get some non-garbage spells. Meanwhile everything else from Shaman is a dead draw until then.
@@tarille1043 hmm I guess it does say draw from your deck. You can draw natural talent and malted magma
Eliza and King Tide, my guess, should be in Tier-S... And Patches looks a bit overrated... But this expansion brings really great cards... Good game all😊
Some cards rated A id put in B tier, but overall very powerful set
Thanks for the Tier list, appreciate it!
Its gonna be a chaos meta for sure
Can someone link me a guide for setting up your deck or fighting. He said, "playing for board," and I have no idea what that means. I thought AFK was a good card. If you have taunt minions out, it can just keep buffing everything.
Are there always this many legendaries in one set?
Maybe a bit more than normal but class legendaries are typically 2.
I think the DK minion buff card is very powerful
Also I like AFK more than F tier
My thoughts All the tourists are good.
AFKay - Because it's end of turn, i think you are wrong. Swarm and get + 12 damage for 5 mana while also making that swarm survive.
Buttons - Shaman Tourist the draw can help the spell school theme
Carefree Cookie - Demon hunter tourist and transforming the swarm minions is powerful.
Caress cabaret star - the effects seem pretty good.
Chillin voljin - Hunter Tourist and you really want those hunter cards. The swap will wreck those handbuff decks when you take it for your aggeession.
Cruise captain lora - there are some good locations i think the issue is lora costs too much i think they can just straight reduce the cost to 6.
Eliza goreblade - nutty it says for the rest of the game.
Gorgonzormu - nutty in dragon priest 3 cheese turns + zarimi is gameover.
Grifftah trused vendor - its a good card. I do think some classes get more out of it for sure. Like priest and hunter can copy with parrot.
Hamm - insane eats a minion and is a druid tourist. If it eats the right minion your opponent will be crying.
Incindius - can but nuts but slow.
King tide - I think you need to want to cheat a spell out for this to be worth.
Maestra - warlock tourist + hero cards it's incredible.
Marin the manager - you can already play this and it's great.
Mistah Vista - mage tourist possibly the most broken card. People forget he may be replaying 3 16 mana turns.
Narain Soothfancy - great card at worst it gives you info about the top card of your deck and let's you play 2 extra copies of your top card.
Party planner vonna - I think people forget to keep getting the oroburos you have to have a minion in hand.
Patches the pilot - seems good but I guess you might not draw the parachutes meaning its a 1/1 for 1.
Ranger gilly - warrior tourist I think people are overlooking it. But it's defintely meant for a handbuff hunter.
Raylla, sans sculptor - paladin tourist can get both cheap drinks and has a bunch of those cheap buffs.
Sanc'azel - just straight up a good card.
Sasquawk- looks incredible. If it's good priest can copy it a ton of times.
Summoner darkmarrow - death knight tourist and yeah if you love deathrattles like the oroburos.
Sunsapper Lynessa - rouge tourist and incredible I totally forgot this would double the coins effect but also those sunscreens are now + 2/+4 for 1 cost.
The ryecleaver - Its insane mana cheat and I think you might be able to build around it but man I think if you pull this off it might be nuts.
Treasure hunter Eudora - easy to proc because of tourist mechanic. I guess it comes down to how badly do you want the treasure.
Incindius looks absolutely broken in rogue, i would give it an S tier. Priest playing multiple copies of this is going to be really strong as well.
@@peteryang-y3y Incidius is nowhere near as fast and reliable as Garrote was.
Draw 5 spells. . . ‘A bit of card draw’.
I wish i was excited about these cards....so many s tiers by zeddy. I dont think this expansion is too hot.
Hey zeddy, wanted to uplift you a bit, how does it feel to be the biggest hearthstone RUclipsr?
My name isn't Rarran
How does AF Kay work with Gnome Muncher?
I guess it'll depend on order.
If you play AF Kay first, she'll trigger before Gnome Muncher. If you played Gnome Muncher first he'll attack before AF Kay's effect triggers (And likely prevent it from affecting him)
He attacks so I'm guessing if he triggers first there's no buff.
Ranger Gilly is the best tourist card, and the warrior one is the worst. You have those just switched :)
Goreblade warlock going to be insane
Eliza is S tier. I can't believe you gave it B. You gave A to Buttons
So excited for this expansion!
Keep up the good videos Zeddy. I enjoy listening to your card reviews during my breaks.
AF Kay isn't that bad. Since most cards come in and can't attack anyway on turn one anyway. Plus Titans can't attack until they use all three abilities. plus any frozen cards that can't attack. There are a lot of way she can be used for quick buffs of your whole board. its not guaranteed she'll be able to stay on the board long enough to do much but there are certainly ways she could be used effectively. No way is she an F tier. She's not S tier either. just very situational. but if you can work your deck around it she might be very effective in the clutch.
lets go thanks for the review!
Did i win the mega bundle? i hope so
when I will have over 20 crystal mana for the druid, be sure that with that legendary elemental mixed with 20 replicas then put 7 each on the battlefield, let's see if it is still level b as this zeddy catalogs it as a card of level b, all the books that rank b or a in other future updates can become rank s+ or s++!!!
Good luck pulling that off before handbuff paladin rolls you on turn 5
Can’t wait to open all the worst legendaries!
One note on Rye Cleaver: It costs 7 mana, meaning it can be put into Baku warrior decks. And I say this as a guy who just hit legend for the first time ever this month with a Baku warrior deck that used Odin for a win condition. Tanking up for 4 mana a turn and having all the control spells warrior has right now means that Rye Cleaver most likely has a home in that style of deck.
Whether or not people will want it is another question. In the deck I used, eight of the fourteen minions in my deck had battlecries that would get cancelled by getting summoned by Ryecleaver. Admittedly one of them is General Vezax, so I'd only lose the four armor if he got summoned...so maybe count that as seven out of fourteen instead.
Isn't Baku and Genn going out of standard at the next expansion launch?
A.F. Kay. . . is a ‘B’.
Paladin legendary is nuts
Yes both are good.
Its looking pretty good, cant qait for release
Zeddy why is hearthstone not any fun anymore? Remember the good old days of grinding it out to fatigue? Running into Trump on ladder with an all golden freeze mage or fire bat with some insane aggro Hunter deck? I have played since beta, have a collection of 611 pages of cards and cringe everytime I play anymore. I really hope the new set breathes a little life into it for me cause the 10yr anniversary is turning into a funeral for me.
My reason for not having in hs is card generation (discover cards mainly ).
I mainly play arena so I think u can understand why I hate discover cards.
Some tourists synergise with the other class cards alot. Some uhhhh.... not so much
Looking forward to the new cards!
Eliza is gonna be s tier 100%
Rest of the game is always scary.
Hoping rogue legends will be strong
king tide going 1 is a "you dont use spells"
the opponent cant even coin a spell, the coin would be 5 mana
Cheese Dragon is my favorite.
Priest definitely got the best legendary here.
i really like your euphoric type 🙂
While you could argue a tier up or down on a lot of these... I think Griftah is a way over valued. The "phony" version your opponent gets is also most of the time pretty good. I think he is as bad as AFK because you give your opponent decent value also. I do not see him seeing much play at all.
I think you are wrong on this particularly with a class that can replay the good effect.
I can see someone splitting Incindius and then getting 10 eruptions that will do 3 damage instantly. Is it consistent? I hope not but it is funny
Priest can copy it the issue is do they have enough time.
I think these tourist cards are a huge dust sink since you have so many other cards that rely on them. Overall I think this will be bad for the game because it continues to force people to only invest in the best archetypes due to how expensive everything is. Now I know some people will point to cheap aggro decks that are effective but to me that isn't fun. I feel like a few of these are probably ranked too high but I guess we see how it pans out. I have a pessimistic outlook for the game but I'm going to keep playing.
lots of these legendaries (esp the late game ones) look good on paper, but the meta will likely be very aggressive and then they become unplayable..
I have only one exception to point out, if that legendary pirate for death knight and that legendary elemental as you consider it to be level b, you are probably referring to the fact that it may not come to your hand in time to be able to do that combo with him, or do you consider that the chances are too small to merge with the effect of these cards, but you are making a big mistake, I have already made the formula of the card pack that I will make for that pirate including that elemental!!
That elemental is going to be able to make so many combos. Going to do a draw heavy warrior deck with voone and zola. Can even run the new draw card for each minion type.
Gimme the megabundle 🔥🔥
Im really worried about this set, its giving me Stormwind vibes. Likely not as bad as that set but man im kinda scared
Calling it now - buttons will be broken
15:55 i think i would be an awesome card for demon seed warlock in my opinion
Nice review!
The rogue legendaries seem pretty bad. Tourist mechanic may be worth it but replaying all rogue cards usually just screws you and Maestra is 6 mana do nothing and there’s a good chance the hero card you get may not even be impactful. Idt random duels treasures are that good but who knows for Eudora.
Scorpion and velorak are just so much better with Tess idt you’d put any of the new legendaries in a strictly competitive deck. The other new burgle cards support velorak and scorpion better also.
Eudora is pretty easy to activate just play it in tourist and you already have cards from another class.
Maestra I need to look at the pool but there's defintely some great hero cards in there.
AFK is a lot better than people seem to think it is. a 5 mana 5 health minion that gives your other minions a 2/2 buff EVERY turn is really good in the right deck, and the right deck will indeed exist. Get ready for AFK to become pretty hated, cuz when people draw it against you, you're probably gonna lose.
It only buffs them if they don't attack. Which means it's really only buffing non-rush, non-charge minions that you play that turn. And it doesn't buff them til the end of the turn, so you can't make use of the extra stats til the following turn. I'm not sure anything that slow has ever been effective or powerful in Hearthstone.
I’m taking handbuff Hunter to legend
Sanc'Azel... sand castle 😂
First card, and I already hard disagree with Zeddy. I see AFK in a token-heavy deck that keeps flooding the board. And look, a certain class got a bunch of support for that this expansion. I could also see AF Kay in token Druid when Blizzard inevitably adds the token support again. Remember the Naga who gave minions 1/2 if you played a Nature spell while holding her? Kay is better in many circumstances, and token Druid loves flooding with newly spawn tokens
AFK would not work even if it was 5|5. And if you are talking about DH his whole gimmik is having charge on tokens.
But you could buff them AND Attack. And if you attack you dont get the Buff. This wouldnt see play for 3-4 Mana i guess
@@shrekkek9396 Nope, I was talking about Warlock using Eliza to get more token stuff
I agree he's wrong about AFKay as long as it survives it just buffed all your swarm by +2/+2.
@@barcster2003 0\5 survives? Are you crazy?
Afk would work in a non reno and other full clear. Hard sweepers more importantly they also farted on warrior so hard because they still managed to break it with the mutanis guy only combo will win again and hunter gets caught in the crossfire :( I'm calling the meta now it will be bs fun police control warrior and a priest tourist deck featuring 6000 1 drops and zarimi and pip the potent into i into 1drop avalanche combo
A.F. KAY in Rogue coin deck
Legendary are fun...
9 cards in S tier? 9 cards in A tier? Sorry, Zeddy, I don't think so... This set seems much more balanced than that.
AFKay is gonna be fine as a 0-mana discovery
I actually think AFKay will be better than he thinks says end of turn so as long as you can produce a swarm her effect will go off.
Swarm + AFKay = means a board of 6 4/4s. That's 24 face damage if you wait a turn.
There's also ways to reduce the cost of AFKay.
@@barcster2003 How do you propose reducing AF Kay’s cost precisely? She’s not a spell, she has no tribes, she has no keywords, she has no class.
@@MinoriGaming twilight medium also you may not have to reduce the cost. Already have a board just play afk and don't attack for 1 time get +12 damage.
AFKay for the win! I'll make it work.
For Sanc'Azel, i don't think it's that good. 5 mana for +3 atk and rush to a friendly minion is not good, while 3/8 is not very good at trading and removing opponents' minions. Buffing and trading you can probably do it 1-2 times before Sanc'Azel died.
But I can totally see the best case is your opponents have a full board of 0/3, and they end their turn while letting you have a 1/1 minion alive. You play Sanc'Azel, buff the 1/1 minion you have, turn into a minion and take out their 0/3, repeating this 7 times, and then go face with your super buffed 25/1 minion.
I think you're forgetting that one of the main archetypes for Paladin right now is Handbuff.
At its base, 5 mana 3/8 Rush that can then buff a minion by 3 attack is bad.
But when you've handbuffed it to like 10 attack and then you have a 10/15 Rush that can then buff another minion by 10 attack... You start to be able to OTK with Charge minions like Leeroy and Deckhand. Especially if combined with Outfit Tailor for more attack and Deckhand can be given Windfury with the new Pirate too.
@tarille1043 the location only gives +3 attack and doesn't upgrade when the minion is buffed
@@joshualegacy563 No, the devs literally confirmed it scales with the stats of the minion.
@@tarille1043 Jesus, that's way too broken.
2:30 @Zeddy you cant read anymore :c
Thank you ☕
Buttons is terrible - Blood, Unholy, and Frost are not spell schools. The only spell schools DK has are Frost and Shadow. If we run the drink from Shaman we can at best draw three cards - two of our own, and the fire drink. Buttons is B tier at BEST for DK, probably closer to C. It would have to be like 3 or 4 mana to be worthy of A tier...and even then it's a mediocre effect for a legendary in 2024.
The Eliza and Helya comparison is perfect though - Eliza will probably be in every rainbow DK deck because it's just a passively good effect but not good enough to build a deck around. I would probably put it down at C though if I'm being honest...just a very underwhelming effect and with no way to tutor it out requires you to draw it super early or see 0 value.
Incindius in Brann is going to be absolutely insane. It's just a passive 20 damage assuming they don't Zola it. If you Zola Incindius in a Brann deck, you have 30 cards that are going to do 4 damage to ALL enemies. I think Zola is now an auto include in Brann warrior because of how many new targets they have for it. Incindius, Hamm, Boomboss and Inventor Boom are now a targets because of the increase mana cap...hell, even Yogg and Ziliax are targets for Zola because Warrior will have 13 mana cap. I personally believe that Brann Warrior is going to be the most toxic thing for the first few weeks of the xpack until things eventually get nerfed because of Brann.
these statistics ranked at each level separately, it is totally wrong, you put legendary cards that are not for the respective class, you will realize their potential when you play with them, these statistics do not represent anything at all, it is just a useless graph that does not it makes sense!!
What statistics? It's just a fun speculative tierlist, someone putting a card in C tier doens't mean you can't play the card.
@@rougeric87 you don't understand, these statistics are decided by the level of these cards, but some people like this zeddy categorize all the s or a rank cards as f or b rank cards, meaning they are the weakest, as a result it is not fun, these statistics are made so that there are finally some votes, the c, f, and b rank books are mediocre books!!
@@rougeric87 what part do you think is funny about a statistics graph, which indicates the position of some books, I really don't see or understand this part so funny?!!
@@alexex8169 I don't understand what you mean. If you want to measure how strong a card is by the means of statistics, you will need numbers and data, which we will get after lot of games have been played with those cards, but even then, statistics on hearthstone cards don't always say a lot because some cards are conditionally good because of a certain meta, synergies or counter.. I'm talking about "fun" because this type of videos are just "fun theorizing" about how good some cards will be, some people like and have fun in theory crafting decks or predicting the power of some cards. Anyway, I think there's some language barriers here or you're looking too deep into this. Enjoy your week!
@@rougeric87 my friend, you don't understand, the theory has nothing to do with what these books do, I understood that it's a censorship in the middle, but statistically speaking you can't catalog a rank book to be rank b, in any way, even if it's a bad joke, the cards that will be above the level of expectations, will be seen when you win many matches, and the nerfs for such cards are not very useful, they change the effect for nothing because an opening will always be created!!
AFKay would be bad even if she was 3 mana tbh
2/7 ”Every card you play gets +2/2” Would be a pretty threatening card. She is better than that because you have the option to buff further.
@@esscateGood. A board-based legendary should be threatening.
@@MinoriGamingThe card is strong
@@esscate 0/5. She doesn't buff herself.
Also, not "Every card you play" because the majority of cards that are played have Rush and trade into something.
Even more so after 5 mana, where even something like Burrow Buster just freely removes her before you can summon something alongside her...
I really don’t understand the hype over Voljin. Everyone talks about board stats being worthless in modern hearthstone but this time it’s good? And it’s not like the Hunter cards are that amazing for what priest wants to do, we’ve already got a lot of copy effects.
We need win conditions, not more gimmicks.
don't be too happy too early, there are only 4 classes in this update that will dominate you from all points of view, Druid, Death Knight, Warlock and Priest, the rest are only proportional inferiorities!!
Yeah, everyone is overrating Vol'jin. Even in the best case scenario you can swap ONE big minion like a Giant or Handbuff Pally minion with one of your own minions.
Which even as a best case scenario, is an absolute garbage card. Like, literally all of the Origami cards are 100x better than this and they see no play.
The only reason to ever run Vol'jin, is to access Hunter cards.
@@tarille1043 the idea that this card was designed in this update only to mock the opponent, in no case should it be a buff that will keep you mobile until you finish the match, but zeddy makes wrong statistics of those levels, you cannot catalog that legendary pirate for death knight and neither that legendary b-rank elemental, they are s-rank, but he thinks they won't work, wait for the update to be released and see the results then, if I think about it, the biggest buff are these 3 legendaries this undead pirate, that elemental and that legendary 5 mana per druid, the rest are just for decoration!!
@alexex8169 shudderblock mini into that legendary elemental is gonna be hilarious if it works but something tells me it's too slow
@@joshualegacy563 I don't mean to do the fusions with that elemental on the shaman, I recommend you on the druid extend your crystal hand to 20, and at the end copy and mix that elemental of about 25/30 replicas and when they come into your hand put them on the field you will have a total of 35 spells that you then mix in the package, they upgrade them after your turn, think how much damage you give for one, the upgrade being divided among 7 elementals on your battlefield, the effect of that spell is quadrupled!!
Mech mage paladin could be viable
Would love to win the giveaway, just getting back into the game after a long break
Crazy set.
Keep the afk hate energy when someone plays it and absolutely rolls you with it
I do think people underestimating AFKay are going to get rolled. Easy combo for priest is lightbug. The 1 cost lightbug to summon 6 lightbugs summon afk you now have a 18/18 lifesteal board for 6.
I'm going out on a limb here: I don't think the new Druid Tourist is that good. I think the best thing about the Druid Tourist is that Warrior can run Druid cards. Might not impact the board much, doesn't disrupt opponents hand; it's on average a really expensive Gnomeferatu that only hits minions, which is better, but not gamebreaking.
Pin this so everyone can laugh at me when I'm proven wrong
I think the card is weak, but is what warrior wants to play right now. They don't really care if it's bad tempo and very slow because they have Zilliax, Reno and the great wall of taunts to make sure you can't punish them for playing an awful card like that. And it may win you the game on the spot against tough match ups like Sif mage. I think it's a bad card but the current warrior meta will make it work
It's not amazing. But it's not bad.
Warrior already wants to play a slow game where they beat out other slow decks because of Boomboss.
Hamm plays into that. While it won't often do much besides eat a single minion, a single minion could still be impactful. Like, you eat the enemies Yogg? Now they can't answer Unkilliax. You eat the enemies Unkilliax? How will they deal with your threats? You can eat something like Aman'thul, Primus, Elise, Helya, Reska and weaken the opponent a lot. Heck, even something small like eating an Excavate minion can still be impactful as that prevents a second Excavate reward for a DK.
It sucks against meta aggro decks, which is what Warrior is currently weak to. So it's a question of whether you want to go full control or try and build to help fight aggro.
Of course, Druid cards are what make it desirable. Of which there are some really strong Druid cards for Warrior to use, though again these are still mostly for slower matchups.
He could eat an unimportant minion or eat a win condition and win the game on its own. And being a Tourist means he will be played in every Warrior deck to use New Hieghts, so he will get to decied a lot of games by luck.
@@luniquerango138 I wanna know what the hell reality you live in where Sif Mage is a rough matchup for Reno Warrior and not an auto-win.
@@MinoriGaming A reality where I'm a good Sif mage player and can very easily deal more damage than warrior can get armor