Rick Rubin explains how System of a Down's Chop Suey! was created (2022)
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2022
- In a recent interview with Joe Rogan, the producer Rick Rubin recalled how a weird decision by Serj Tankian ended up creating the most iconic System of a Down lines on 'Chop Suey!'.
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I actualy hate that about that song. it was random...i can tell it's random and it's so annoying!
@@andrabook8758 Look deeper, listen harder, see the things that aren't obvious.
AMAZING!!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘💪💪🔥🔥🔥
Back?
@@Dwightpower88 why? they just picked random lines from a page in a book. that song always annoyed me. I hate it when song writters do that.
Toxicity is one of the best produced metal albums ever. It could be released today and still sound completely new and fresh. Absolutely timeless.
That isn't metal
@@behindthen0thing alt. metal
@@behindthen0thing it's undeniably metal. whether alt or nu, it all counts
@@behindthen0thing imagine being such a music snob you gatekeep one of the better metal albums ever released 😂
@@Teguranch but it ain't metal though!
The lyrics are great and all, but honestly what really gives me the chills is the vocal harmony and particularly Serj's delivery and emotion in that part.
Spot on comment
It's the piano in the back for me. Everything you mentioned is absolutely true and accurate but for my ear the quiet, fairly simple piano arrangement in the back is what elevates that part into something i have to finish listening to, even now over 20 years later and heard hundreds of times. It's this sort of sweet but melancholy, melodic, ethereal, just that little tiny extra bit that works so immensely well with the soaring harmonies.
@@aaronvanzile3824 10000%… it wouldn’t have the same emotional impact without that light piano in the background
Serj is one of the greatest ever vocalists IMO
Chills from the power of those words released September 4th 2001
Joe was thinking the damage a bear would do if let loose in that crowd.
Man or bear analogy? This comment aged like wine, congrats.
🤣🤣
Rick Rubin is the guy who asked Johnny Cash to sing Hurt by NIN/Trent Reznor. Insane amount of artists from all genres. Slayer and Adel. Santana and LL Cool J. Weezer and Metallica. Tom Petty and Lords of Acid. He is legend.
amazing
He is Legend fucking underrated .
He butchered Metallicas album
And RHCP!!!!
He produced Blood Sugar Sex Magic!
I love how Rogan basically goes "F it, it's my show. We're just gonna let this play through til the end" and they both just vibed out for 2 uninterrupted minutes.
@Daniel Alves At the very least a member of the board.
He used to do that all the time when the podcast was small. He only stopped doing it once his podcast bece massive because RUclips started being a lot more strict about it several years ago with regards to playing other content.
I don’t think we watched the same video. Joe very clearly wasn’t into it at all.
The way Joe says "it is so cool"
@@jamesmcbrain5497 Check out his eyes hes looking up at something, not even making eye contact... "yeah...... it is so cool....." lol - he wasn't in to it at all. My guess is he was looking at a clock or a timer on the wall and thinking "fuck"
Amazing how Rick has heard so many songs, and been around so much music, and still loves it like a teenager. Truly a gift.
you should smoke some gas bruv
And somehow still has terrible taste.
@@kazman_6899 That song is fire, and Rick is a legend at making artists super stars. He knows whats up.
@@Ha-fy6zv Submit a list of his favourite albums or artists. He is adroit at producing music - there's no question about that. But when it comes to taste in music, he wouldn't know his head from his arse.
@@kazman_6899 Good thing is... There is music for everybody's taste.
There is a much deeper message that Rick is trying to share with us. And when he says, “I get chills”, he is deeply awe-struck by the synchronicity of life. Many of the artists who have worked with Rick, speak of his guru-like ability to tune into a song, an artist or moment - and intuitively know what is needed. “When you are open, and looking for these clues in the world, they’re happening all the time. And they’re happening often right when you need them.” Rick is plugged into the intelligent rhythm of the universe. That’s fucking powerful.
😂😂😂
Lol
it’s called hypnotic rhythm. Napoleon hill talks about it in his book outwitting the devil
Few will get your reference to synchronicity but it’s poignant
Right on man
I had a 10 year old girl request this song to be sung in class as part of our daily morning singing sessions. The kids are alright.
It's incredible because he's probably heard that song thousands of time and he still is digging it to this day
Well, to be honest, i was 20 when this came out. I just listened to it now and the raw emotion i felt is the same.
good music stays good
We all are. Shit’s so badass
@@celuiquipeut6527 well said!
@Celui Quipeut one of the best songs ever created even how goofy it is.
Love how Rick headbangs to his own produced song; he might be proud of what he accomplished with SOAD in Toxicity. Amazing record!.
He doesn’t listen to music. He feels it. You can tell.
If you watch the RHCP suck my kiss music video you can see Rick Rubin rocking out in it.
Considering he's asleep on the couch for half the songs he's produced, it might be the first time hearing them 😉
Lol he produced it...he didn’t write or play the song
Lmao that's the most hilarious thing I've seen this week 😆
It's so cool to see Joe and his guest just sit there and watch a video in complete silence, uninterrupted with no commentary, just taking in the music and enjoying it (especially Rick).
I love you System of a Down. 22 years later and still listening everyday.
I remember listening to System as a teenager for hours.
I’d lay on my bed, put my headphones on close my eyes and just listen to an album start to finish without interruption.
System of a Down will always be dear to my heart.
SAME!! the first album i ever bought new was Toxicity and I listened to it like the way you said like 30-50 times probably. I also learned to play a few of the songs on that album.
Damn… back then when life seemed to be so simple and innocent.
shit one of my best memories is having to stay home from school in the 3rd grade because of an ice storm that caused massive power outages across the county. I didn't have fuck all else to do so I borrowed my dads cd player, and started going through his binder collection to find new music to listen to. I ended up settling on mezmerize because the album artwork was dope. I laid down, let it spin, and had a fuckin euphoric experience.
That’s some serial killer type shit
20 years have passed so fast...(32)
Dang, my dumb ass trying to write meaningful lyrics off the top of my head when I can just be picking up random books
somebody once told me the woooorld is gonna..
Dude just bragged about stealing people's writings for lyrics. 🤣
@@brynlpz83 Rubin is highlighting this one part of a bigger whole. He’s not “bragging”. It’s about incorporating a tiny piece from somewhere else into the song. What they did was no different from taking a fragment off the ground and putting in a mosiac. It’s not a copy of the entire thing. There’s nothing wrong with this (small) part of the process. All of your favorite artists have done this to some degree.
@@brynlpz83 ah yes because no one in any genre has every resampled something or borrowed lyrics 🤡
"Father, into your hands I commend my spirit" is a phrase from the Bible though, so I highly doubt Serj just took a "random book" and accidently stumbled on the Bible haha
still gives me goose bumps. love how Ruben made him listen to all of it !
Young Jamie is underrated. Already had the section of the song ready for Rick Ruben to playback and exemplify his point. Always ahead. Joe knew exactly what he was doing when getting Young Jamie as the backend of the show.
I love that Rogan has gone back to having really influential and legitimately interesting people on the podcast. This episode was tremendous!
He still has good guest it's kind of a hit or miss for me. Personally I can't listen to the political guest's. The music guests are my favorite and sometime's the educational episode's are cool depending on what it is
Awesome!
@@BassPlayer9000 Yeah, that Karen was insufferable
YUGE 😂
Rick Rubin is the king of exaggerations....The only chop suey this guy knows is the slop he picks out of his gross beard
Bro really convinced them to play his mixtape live on the podcast
A tape he mixed😂
😂
@@dbrickashawful So his mixtape right? ...
This little "mixtape" has 1,2 billion views on RUclips...
No shame😂
Saw System at Ozzfest in 2002. They were absolutely great at what was my all time favorite musical event. Legendary lineup. 4 songs brought the entire amphitheater alive 1. Chop Suey 2. More human than human 3. Bodies with the og Drowning Pool lineup and 4. Ozzy doing Mama I’m Coming Home right after Sharon’s cancer diagnosis. An epic night.
I’ll agree! Was there at the show outside Detroit.
Same! 2001-2 Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, CA. I remember SOAD opened with Forest, lost my shit 🤯
That's so awesome, lucky .
Absolutely one of my favorite songs of all time. From the first time I heard it unto the last time just a moment ago in this clip, I feel the same way about it every single time....chills. And everytime I can't stop myself from dancing, singing, with every part of being from the very first beat and tone to the final note at the end. When finished my face is wet with tears and I feel more awake and more alive than ever. It is an amazing musical arrangement and lyric composition.... beautiful harmony.... profound words... intense.... emotional...
A masterpiece that fully engages me.
Rick- it radical
Joe- yea
Rick- I get chills
Joe- yeah
Rick- it's so cool
Joe- it is so cool
Great interview skills and amazing Inight Joe.
Yeah wtf, was he high as shit or something? Worst reaction ever to something truly beautiful lol
Sober October 🤷🏽♂️
Unless it's about Wild Animals, MMA or Science, Joe doesn't seem to care.
He’s a dope and I don’t understand why people value him
He’s trying to come up with something relevant to say. The music is too good for him to comprehend. Haha
This song came out when I was 17 and it sent chills down my spine then and does so to this day. Raw, brutal, beautiful.
One of the songs that initially inspired me to start playing bass. 19 years later. Wow
I was 9 years old when it came out and I'm 32 now, and it goes down in my life as one of the most brilliant songs produced by Gen X.
@@sectorseven07 We were 10 or 11 at the time, as I'm 32 also, I think I was just short of 11 years old and remember that era well, even though I've outgrown that era of bands...System are one that have always held integrity in there sound.
Class of 2000. It's boring to me now, having heard SO. MUCH.
if it still sends chills down your spine, I guess you have been stuck in a boring life.
@@Connection-Lost different music affects different people differently 😉
I HATED System of a Down when they came out. I couldn't stand "Sugar" and when it came on I'd turn the radio off. Then this song came out. It was so mind-blowing to me that I went out and bought both albums and forced myself to listen to them. SOAD is now one of my top metal bands of all time. Truly unique.
Those bands that sound odd at the beginning but you eventually start to embrace and understand after a few listens, those are the ones that will truly stick
That's how I discovered Slipknot and Disturbed funny how we stumble upon interests in this ever connected web of reactions.
Funny how "Sugar" is the song that got me into the band
sugar is a banger bro
Funnily, Sugar is now what is getting the younger generation into System of the Down.
Rick Rubin is responsible for most of the music I love. Beastie Boys, SOAD, Chilli Peppers, Public Enemy, Weezer and Johnny Cash's final comeback were essentials in my life. Truly an amazing talent to have create such great bands and to make great bands better. Respect.
No offense to Rick Rubin but he takes alot more credit than necessary. I'm also a fan, but he just takes a little too much credit for the talent he got to be around!
@@ghstletter5978 I don't think I've actually ever seen him touting his "genius" in the slightest. Maybe that happens, but all I ever see is those people in the industry and his performers give him immense credit for whatever success they achieve and there have been a lot.
@@ghstletter5978 no offense, but your opinion is trash lol
@@JJ-bg1ym I'm not mad🤷
He did Billy Corgan’s solo album too in 2017 Ogilala and it’s firrrrre
The amount of respect I still see Rick has for SOAD is amazing. So many talented musicians he’s been around and he still talks about them.
Uniqueness, principles, virtuosity, and face-melting heavy-duty rock. What’s not to remember?
SOAD are definitely his best work in my opinion, Toxicity is one of the greatest metal albums of all time. It's the only Metal that my dad will listen to, my dad was more into softer rock type stuff, but he would always play Toxicity in the car when I was growing up. It's cool how a band like that can bring in fans to a genre they would never normally listen to.
They are always the band he goes back to. Every interview he mentions them.
@@ChrisM-bn5vr my dad is also that type, and he loved soad
Because they're badass
System of a Down has perfect delivery they are so in sync with each other it’s amazing. That part of the song is so damn good it will never get old. Hope they can make 1 last tatesful classic Double disc album
"Father, why have you forsaken me?" are the words of Jesus on the cross. The fact that these words could be picked at random is nothing less than chilling.
It wasn't random. He's bullshitting.
@@EdwinLopez-hf3uw why would he bullshit a random thing like that?
@@JA-gz6cj
Probably because like all guests on JRE, they think they have to say something that blows people's mind.
in his defense, my guess, after some deliberation, is that Rick Rubin, being Jewish never read the Bible and never knew the story of Jesus' death and Resurrection . He doesn't even know what a Bible looks like. So to him it was a random book he never read .
Maybe he also got the location mixed up because again, why would he even have a Bible in his library. It was probably at Serj's house or a studio office.
@@EdwinLopez-hf3uw he's fukken rick rubin, he dont have to make up fake stories to blow peoples minds lmao
@EdwinLopez-hf3uw
Wrong.
I've read an interview with him where the reporter describes his library....
"He seems to be one with the room, which is lined in floor-to-ceiling books, most of which are of a spiritual nature, whether about Buddhism, the Bible or New Age quests for enlightenment. The library and the house are filled with religious iconography mixed with mementos from the world of pop."
Love that he still talks about SOAD
I remember meeting System of a Down in Baton Rouge in the late 90's. I was talking to their bass player Shavo Odadjian, asking why on Earth was he was playing a hollow body Linc Luthier bass on stage. He told me he really liked them, but I told him the sound and look were completely wrong for his music. I suggested he try a Gibson Thunderbird instead. He was lukewarm to the idea at the time but was cordial and said he'd consider it. Shavo is a very nice guy and we talked for a some time about the band, thier music, and bass playing in general. I even recall Serj Tankian looking over at us wondering what we were so intently chatting about.
A few years passed and I was watching MTV when Chop Suey came on. Sure enough, I immediately recognized the band and noticed that Shavo had ditched his old bass for a Gibson Thunderbird!! I believe Gibson even sponsors him now. I would love to hear from him and find out if he remembered our conversation, but they are so huge it probably has no chance of happening. Anyway, even at the point when I met them, you could tell they had something special and were destined to make it big. Glad to see they did.
Magnificent story. I´ll upvoted it. Maybe he´ll read it some day.
Sure buddy
@@LysanderSA same
wow
I’ll take things that never happened for $100 Alex.
I've been so addictive to this song also in addition to this, the part that Rick mentioned on the podcast, placed deep of my heart, thanks SOAD, forever rock!
This is what passion, talent & hard work looks like.
One of the Producer GOATs for sure.
It's one of those songs that you listened to a lot as a kid or teenager but you need to return to it as an adult to really understand it's beauty.
definitely. George Carlin and Eminem are also on that list of artists that I loved when I was in my mid-late teens but I didnt really get the messages yet, or at least I thought it was exaggerated for effect. George Carlin especially saw exactly what was going on and told us straight up what was going on.
SOAD is more subtle usually, but I just did a re-listen to most of their music and I finally understood some of the more obscure stuff.
It's a song with different meanings at different parts of your life.
well put, I did just that this week
I just returned to it, it's amazing
The fact that to this day you will still see Rick lose it and headbang to this absolute masterpiece he created with SOAD will forever warm my heart. What a beautiful era to grow up in surrounded by these albums.
I get chills listening to this track too. The harmonies and lyrics are next level dope. SOAD were an incredible band.
Song ends and they just stare into each other’s eyes ❤ so sweet
Look how much he LOVES this song. You can tell it's just part of who he is to love the music he helps create, which is why so many songs he is apart of are so lasting.
LOVES it so much he doesn't remember the name of the song or the name of the singer or the right lyrics.....
@@yooniversal5716 you don't need details if you love something
music will never be good this again. so frikin sick of mumble rap. when will rock come back... :(
@Yoon do you have any idea how much music this man has produced?
Give him a break man.
@@yooniversal5716 i think hes produced almost 300 albums so several thousand songs. im sure some things slip thru the cracks over time. Not to mention hes not the youngest anymore
I’m convinced that Rick Rubin is a wizard who’s in the business of conjuring up magical moments and capturing them on tape.
This actually quite accurate, if you believe in the spirit world, black magic, Hollywood etc. Nothing that comes from there, music, television, movies are by accident. It's all programing. Lots of video on here with musicians openly admitting to selling their souls, actors/actress and other musicians admitting to being posseted by "something" while filming a movie or writing a song or on stage.
Actually, I truly believe he's satan.
@@Hughesburner It's really fun how they and we ourselves try to make us believe in fairy tales such as "selling your soul for success" when the real problem is is precisely making us believe what they want, manipulating us through media, and we can barely do anything about it.
This dude is a musical God. Who else is going to work with the likes of RUN DMC, Slayer, Public Enemy, Johhny Cash, SOAD, etc...and make some of the best music they EVER put out.
He’s full of shit … the song is about the Bible and left over stories left out of it .. he’s just talking just to talk
Don’t forget Beastie Boys and Chili Peppers. 🤘🏻Good one though.
Linkin Park also
Mannnnnnn you just had to be there back in the day I’m glad I was able to experience it !!!!!!
Rick bobbing his head, Joe staring stone faced at the video. That's how you know someone bleeds music.
LOL, i was thinking the exact same thing. I'm over here with the foot tap going and head nodding too along with Rick, freaking Joe just still. Dammit man, feel the music lol!
i think joe is trying to maintain some composure, maybe he likes to headbang in private
Still gives me all the feels 20 years later
It instantly took me back to riding around in my big brother’s car blasting this song!
All time banger for sure.
I got goosebumps seeing how he was rocking it so hard back and forth while listening to it even tho he probably heard this tune countless times before. Long live the great musical minds.
i love how much rick rubin is vibing to the song
Random lyrics are amazing because it's like a proverbial shotgun blast of emotions that several billion people can interpret for themselves. In short, it'll mean something to someone somewhere eventually...
That's the same for all lyrics/songs, though, as well.
Nice way of putting it
I think we should take this discourse with a grain of salt. He (Rubin) knows exactly word for word what the lyrics are in the bridge, but pretended to not know, pause and push it to Jamie. Secondly it is not random. The lyrics fit with the rest of the lyrics in the song. The chorus contains "self-righteous suicide" referring to the crucifixion and bridge lyrics are words spoken by Christ. Lets not be so gullible guys.
Not really. It's random, there's no meaning. Literally picked form a random page of a random book. So not even the artist put effort in them.
You're confusing "random" for "serendipitous."
Serj talking about Green Eggs and Ham during the bridge would be random.
Serj talking about the heavenly Father after singing about angels for the entire song is serendipity.
It's so extremely obvious how much of a musician Rick Rubin vs Joe Rogan as how he moves his head and body with the music involuntarily.
Rick Rubin was bobbing his head out of rhythm
You have to be a musician to move your body to music?
@@RickyDemetro he was following the guitar and drum's forward swing
My man helped create this song and is still banging to it all these years later. Rock on sir
As soon as he was describing about picking the book and the breakdown bridge I knew exactly which part he was referring to. Then immediately thought of the lyrics and riff and got goosebumps then they played it. That album was a big part of my teenage years.
I always get a smile when Joe asks "what was it?" because you know you're about to hear the best song ever.
More metal bands need to embrace him and his style instead of pushing him away. He is an absolute legend and will push albums to be incredible.
go listen to the johnny cash remasters and tell me if you still hold that opinion lol
Nah
Ask slipknot 😁
tell that to slipknot
ruclips.net/video/KvT6tdYI2AM/видео.html
It’s amazing that one man has shaped some of the biggest and best bands and artists of the last 40 years
Rick Rubin is rocking all the way through the song thinking like ''Geez, This is such a great song.'' Loved it
Yes, you said it Rick. Know, we all get chills hearing that song!
RR is one on a short list of legitimate musical geniuses. To both produce some of the greatest rap albums of all time, while also seeing the broader mainstream appeal of SOAD (what anyone else would have seen as a non-traditional niche band) is impressive as hell.
Rubin literally produced Slayer's Reign In Blood the same here he did Run-DMC - Raising Hell and Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill, so it's not like he didn't have any idea what metal is
@@Porcoggimba ahem.....SLAYER! Raining Blood and Post Mortem are two of the best metal tunes ever created.
@@pags1981 Subjective, and personally Sepultura's album Arise trumps anything Slayer ever did, as far as 80's thrash metal goes. Everyone has an opinion
Joe is a robot. How can you remain perfectly still while listening to this masterpiece?
because he is jacked
@@padurariubogdan721 jacked on sham conspiracies and shitty supplements.
Yeah u can see he doesn't enjoy this kind of music
@@junior1388666 Dude, he does!
@@MDomi soad? Nah, he likes jimmi Hendrix and stuff
getting to watch rick vibe is a vibe
I bought that album for myself for Christmas when I was 15 still have it to this day 20 years later forever classic
Cool to see Rick Rubin jam to a song
I read this as I noticed it.
One of the greatest songs in rock history
It's considered more metal.
This is the most important and beautiful bit of metal music produced in that era. Possibly if all time: That’s how strongly I feel about it. I’ve been listening to it for 22 years and…as I’ve gotten older I’ve found myself in tears every time I hear it and feeling really…I don’t know. It’s just a seriously beautiful moment in time. The delivery. The emotion. The harmonies. The switch in pace. It’s perfect.
This guy Is Just the Guru of production, no Matter the genre. Love how he just looks back and nods along to it.
Such a powerful song. You can really feel the strong energy from it. Most songs don't do that to me.
One of the greatest songs ever, so powerful
It really is great. Too much music today is overproduced. The guys in SOAD are really talented and the producers/engineers didn’t ruin it by quantizing and pitch correcting everything. Sounds good because it’s real. :)
Gojira does this as well
I see you're a Tool fan. They're one hell of a powerful band.
@@cal-king I've seen tool five times, I've seen a perfect circle four times.
I've seen hundreds of shows from many different types of bands
Tool is by far my favorite
Chop Suey is one of my favorite songs of all time! The harmonies are epic! Great album too!
yes the harmonies are underrated.
Still one if the best songs ever, so many levels so damn good.
Listening to this song now, still feels like it’s just been released, what a track
Fun fact: the song was originally supposed to be titled "suicide" but the band was asked to "chop" the title by the record label for something more appropriate. So they utilmately decided to play on that and called the song "Chop Suey".
Chop Suey is a play on Suicide.
Wow i didnt know this at all, that makes a lot of sense which makes everything a little bit better!
@@Seriona1 no its not
@@sheepdavis Yes it is. SOAD confirmed it, dumbass. Chop as in to slice and Suey as in SUICIde. Try doing some research before you type.
If you crank the volume up, within the first second or so, you can hear Serj say, "We're rolling Suicide."
That piano section over the top along with the vocal harmonies, man I get chills when I hear that part too.
Joe is almost never lost for words yet here they are just blown away at the end
I absolutely love listening to Rick talk about art and music
The vocalist of this band is so amazing. Incredible talent
You should listen to the acapella version of chop suey. It’s on RUclips. It’s incredible.
He's got a big ass nose too
Serj is also a really dope person.
@@alsimmons1870 Too bad he's a Democrat stooge
@@EdwardSnortin Can you have one conversation without bringing up political parties? Or is this what you base pretty much your entire personality on? Sad.
Goosebumps, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! ❤️
You're not alone brother
Hundreds of times every time
I have it on my playlist in my work van, sing my heart out every time.
This song is so powerful it makes me feel incredible and passionate and chills like RICK said
You know Rick is awesome when he’s rocking back and forth listening to it while Joe stays static😂
This part he talks about still gives me chills between lyrics, delivery, melody, and harmonies
Anyone else think its hilarious Rick has a hard time remembering the lyrics and song title to the biggest song he ever did for SOAD? It's like he's produced so much greatness his brain can't handle it all. 😂
"Have you heard of it?"
probably, but he definitely holds back for a few seconds. he knows immediately.
He said I think… it’s chop suey 😂
i thought the same 😂 he really can`t handle all the big productions he ever made
The amount of albums this guy has worked on, I'm surprised he remembers anything at all
i remember blasting that song in my room at the age of 14, i didnt understand it much then, but now it hits different.
its the part of the song where everyone gets chills. almost everytime you listen to it
Crazy.
Serj randomly landed on maybe the most emotional part of the Gospel to use as the bridge of this song. Added to the rest of it, it makes the whole thing almost psychedelic.
Yeah.. this guy knows what he's doing.
what exactly is a psychedelic song?? I guess I know but I wanna know from someone who knows what it exactly means. The bridge is so good!
@@itsshaz4311 Well, the bridge of this song is loaded with meaning for obvious reasons.
This song (and this band's work) is just good art. Viewed through the lens of my life experiences I get a flood of meaning and perceptions when I listen to it.
A powerful hallucinogen has the same effect.
@@itsshaz4311 It's literally what Christ said on the cross right before he died. This was "randomly taken from a book". It's the moment that proves God allowed Christ to make his ultimate sacrifice without help so that Christ"s triumph could be his - much like a parent will allow a child to do something on their own to fully enjoy the sense of accomplishment. In His weakest moment, Christ couldn't see the reason behind God the Father's methods but still trusted in his plan "father, into thy hands I commend my spirit" was his final act of "faith" in and submission to a bigger purpose. He could have called on angels to deliver him but he gave his life so he could triumph over death in front of the whole world. His resurrection gives the hope necessary for our own triumph over what can seem like a hopeless moment(s) of suffering. It says that "no matter how bad this can get, it ends in triumph over this earthly realm; there is something beyond this that is greater". A bigger purpose that "if we trust in the all powerful love of a cosmic parent, we will be ok. We'll always be able to go back home - where love abounds." All that found it's way into the song "Chop Suey" by accident.
@@MrBearddog "proves"? Not in the least. Ultimate sacrifice? How so? A two day dirt nap and back to paradise to hang with dad...how is that an ultimate sacrifice? People give way too much credit to that old fairytale.
@@realitywave He wasn't in "heavan" the whole time (according to the scriptures) but also in hell to bring spirits out of "endless" torment. Call it what you will but millions and millions of people find "salvation" in the philosophy of Christianity and hope it offers. I've found spiritual power in the deepness of the gospel (etymology: good news) and compared to all other theories or philosophies you can't say it's anymore of a fairytale then anything you believe in. Believe what you want but I find hope in an all powerful, all loving creator that sent us into earthly "simulation" to gain cosmic/spiritual power and who's only goal for us is to enjoy life as he does.
CHILLS! This album was very important to me in high school. Sad Joe didn’t react the way Rick wanted him to.
Joe is meathead, only likes talking about MMA
Man if you listen to Chop Suey with some good buds/phones it is INCREDIBLE. Also, I LOVE they didn’t beat match, it’s pretty natural and not computerized like everything else today.
Fits perfectly...like magic as you said.
The groove is so strong. Love this drummer. Love his harmonies. Everything worked in their system.
John Dolmayan! He's fantastic, such a great distinct sound. Back, I wanna say some time in the early 2000s he played with the USC Trojan Marching Band, they had an arrangement of SOAD songs and he played on the field with them. I'm not sure if it was just once but I remember it from when I was younger.
@@aaronvanzile3824 I remember seeing a photo of him on stage with his back to the camera and he had this huge floor Tom to the left of his hats. I always thought that was bad ass. Original drummer of Train did the same thing, I found out years later. Both of them are solid ass drummers with a lot of dynamics while being hard hitters and tasteful/creative.
John is the glue that holds it all together. Massively underrated
I know exactly what Rick is talking about. I feel sorry for Joe or anyone else who doesn’t understand/appreciate the musical dynamics here. I am just learning that the lyrical content is random, but that only adds to the magic. It’s Serj’s use of emotion and melody that drove this home to me since the moment I heard it at the tender age of 15. The “forsaken me” part always pulled at my heartstrings. And it leads so beautifully into the final chorus with the harmony from Daron. Just…masterful.
This song has ways given me the chills. I don't think Joe gets it here.
Saw them in 99 or 2000 I forget. Absolutely freakin loved it! Primus and System of a Down in one show! Plus there was a mud pit at the venue LOL
Me too. Serj's voice crack when he sings the word "heart", that always got me a bit. And of course the harmonies at the end hit you out of nowhere and cap off the song perfectly.
Who made you the gatekeeper of “understanding/appreciating” the musical dynamics here..get bent
I feel sorry for the you for looking down on ppl that might Misunderstand this bc they like the song and that’s literally all that matters . Looking down on u tho ik I’ll sacrifice myself to just say it
Well that gave me full body goosebumps. Cheers Rick. Rad is right my friend!
I remember rediscovering this band after hearing Aerials on the radio after so many years and always being shocked by the clarity of the bass tone.
I get goosebumps every time I hear that part of the song too. The harmony and emotion runs deep.
Dude Toxicity is one of the best metal albums of all time. Chop Suey even though it was mainstream is one of my favorites. The outro is amazing. So many good songs on that album. I know bands have to change their sound over time to create something different but I felt Hypnotize and Mesmerize weren’t as good. If you wanna listen to this song slowed its so good.
Bro holy mountains was fire. I thought every system album was amazing
@@GodinezMedia damn right that song really got me into system
Toxicity and steal this album were a bit more raw and "out there" whereas hypnotize/mesmerize were a bit more smooth. Love em all. Shame they split. I also love Daron's scars on Broadway . Personally I find serj' solo stuff more boring and unrefined
@@Dieterbe ...They didn't split up. They still tour together in Europe, and are all still friends. Serj has said they don't make new music together because Daron and Serj just aren't on the same page, creatively.
I've been noticing this awesome production those New Metal bands had.
This feeling of a huge wall of sound spanking my ears is so awesome.
Truly shows music transcends the song itself to it's production, that is a art at it's own.
While they have things in common with nu metal bands, System of a Down is in the sphere of thrash metal with Armenian folk music influence. Not being nit picky, but they're their own thing apart from Korn, Limp Bizkit, Coal Chamber, Incubus, etc. Great fking band though, I listened to them back in their hayday and recently getting back into them again and still enjoy them just as much if not more. They somehow have this strange fusion of crazy energy with subdued, melodic hooks that no other band I've heard achieve the same way. Truly iconic and probably not as understood as they should be.
@@squidwardtentacles2736 they are nu metal, always have been
I was wondered if/ when/ how system would be mentioned on JRE one day. And to have Rick Rubin himself talking about it! I heard him mention this story before and the fortuitous nature of how the lyrics landed in the song like that is just mad.
This song is perfect. 20 years haven't changed it's perfection at all
It's a master piece
Epic bridge still gets me so fucking amped
Rick Ruben is an absolute GOD. Dude's vision is insane. He invited one of my friends band over to his place to record and album and he said the things he did to bring out the vocalist's energy/passion and personality were something else
And the random book is a bible. 😀 Love it! Love the story, that he is working with writers on their lyrics in his library. He is special.
People:
Serj is deep, I’ve studied his lyrics to understand their hidden meanings.
Serj:
I opened a book to a random page, lol
The fact that he opens the Bible to that part of all the pages is the deep part of it. Those lyrics are what Christ said right before dying on the cross.
I dunno, it seems really too much of a coincidence. that part just flows perfectly well with the chorus lyrically, and it's definitely not a random sentence but a very famous quote. this story sounds cool but is hard to believe.
yeah but he doesn't do that on every lyric on every song though
@@Johnny_Savage most likely he tweaked the sentence so it flowed with the song. I doubt he sung it word for word
@@Johnny_Savage Agreed, but let's just say there was probably some invisible...*influence*... there as well. IMO.
this dude is the spirit of music itself, and he's infected me since a young teen to pursue music with all my heart! Once I looked at the back of my favorite cds and they all said Produced by Rick Rubin, I knew I wanted to be a music producer!
I get chills too Rick. Thank-you. Also...
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I love the way this video fades out. Both of them almost speechless lol.
Good input joe you’re doing great little guy
For whatever reason, Joe's reaction at the end got me laughing really hard.
I was looking for this comment
Sammme lol
He’s mentioned on the show previously how he doesn’t really get SOAD. You can hear it in his reaction here lol.
He was probably thinking about getting hit with a copyright email and getting demonetized
Yeah……Yeah….. it is so cool 🤓
That breakdown/outro has given me the chills every time I've ever heard it... the first time I ever heard it was actually on September 11th and it really hit hard that day.