Hope you enjoy, also don't forget to check out my debut on the Shifting metal Podcast channel (LINK BELOW) @shiftingmetal where I joined Joe, James and Dave for a chat (y)
I owned an Ecoboost Focus 1.0 for 3 years, bought at 2 years old. The engine failed at under 35k with an internal coolant leak. The mechanic said buy a new engine. Ford did nothing to help. The car was eventually scrapped
I've had mine for 10 years,100k km. Not a single problem in that time. Even has the original exhaust. I replace tires, brakes, oil, filters, coolant. Might break tomorrow, but good so far.
There is a 1ltr Ecoboost, didnt even know till this video. In Australia they brought out a 2.0 ecoboost as an option engine for our ford falcons. They are junk too. Don't even see them on the roads anymore 10 years after they were released.
If I ever see a car with an Ecoboost engine I will run a mile now and that is all thanks to the education here from you mate! Great stuff! Before subbing to your channel I would have had no idea and may have possibly purchased one of these.
When I was recently back In the uk I bought my daughter a fiesta automatic, I made sure it was not an ecoboom, in no small part because of your videos, thank you
Back to my college days.A petrol engine needs four things to enable it to run. Fuel, compression, Ignition and air. Had to point this out to a garage who bent all the inlet valves on my car and denied any wrong doing. The court saw it differently !!!! Great Channel as always.
Love the videos. Nice to actually see there's still a few decent car dealers left. As for that 11 plate merriva. BURN IT from experience NEVER AGAIN would I have one. You name it I replaced it on a merriva I owned and it was still never right. 2 and a half grand in a month spent on it and I practically gave it away before I lost my sanity.
@Interdimensional27 well, talks about reducing service interval to 4-5K + quality oil nearly lulled me. I really like focus. Could have been the rocket.
I bought a car from a garage a while back and I was looking at their current stock last week, and thanks to you I knew to avoid, as most of it has ecoboom and puresh1t engines. Thanks Lee. 👍
It's seems there are hundreds of ecobooms for sale at the moment. I get dealers need to sell stock to make money but as a cosumer I'd avoid them completely
@@PatLadsChan99 This is a 12 year old car. If these cars are still around at 10+ years old, you can't really say there's a fundamental problem with them. Buying any old car is a minefield.
Just had to replace this 1L engine on our 2017 focus from wetbelt failure, New core fitted only to be told the turbo also had been destroyed by the wetbelt teeth. Only hearing about this flimsy de-gas pipe with head gasket failure, so glad to hear Ford have designed this bomb with multiple fuses
@@Matty12333 Yeah but standard maintaince isn't enough with wet belts and especially badly designed engines like the 1.0 ecoboost where wet belts are not the only issue. Chains almost never snap either with chain driven engiens it's the tensioners breaking that cause problems. Cambelts only snap if not replaced within specified intervals and even then most standard timing belts last way longer than interval. Wet belts even with full dealer servicing in line with intervals is not always enough for wetbelts.
@@Matty12333 ford said there belts were good for 100000 miles most go before 30000 in which case they are not long out of warranty so you would expect to have it checked weekly ? monthly ? cos that would be ridicules right ? would it if you were sitting in a time bomb ?
I have had 3 Fords , two Sierra's and one Escort van . Never had any trouble , but wet belts and 1.0 litre Turbo's no . I will stick with my Chain driven Honda . ps thanks for your Engine information , many people like my Sister Inlaw pick her car by " Oh , thats a nice Colour " 🤣
Eco boom as they are known in the circle,welt belt is the problem on these shit engines….if I was selling cars I’d avoid buying any of these eco boom engines…
I agree on the Astra H's, loved my old 54 plate diesel with the Z17DTH engine, they are bombproof apart from the swirl flaps jamming and needing new manifold! Causes a loss of power until you hit 2,000rpm, they had big turbos! Replaced it with a 2016 Astra K 3 cylinder 1 litre turbo (B10XFL), no issues at 49,874 miles! So responsive, a fun car to drive! Better than the 1.4 and 1.6 versions!
You my man are 1 of the most trustworthy dealers/ RUclipsrs on tube, if you lived further south down the country I'd be a regular buyer from you, unfortunately your a wee bit too far north for me to travel, but you seem to be a thoroughly nice guy 😊
Li, those dead cars in the corner reminded me of something. I walked past that infamous FIAT 500 yellow taxi cab here in Portsmouth complete with a PCN on the screen. couldn't believe my eyes!!! (picture available)
I have a Ford Focus Ecoboost, came across your channel a few months ago. Needless to say I'm saving for a newer car, I just hope I can afford a new one before my current car dies on me. Thanks for your videos
Maintain your car well and you’ll be fine. Hope it was well maintained before your ownership too. Cheaper option is just go get the wet belt done on your car if you are worried don’t replace the car because of one component
It's a 1.0 unfortunately. Thanks for the advice, it's missed one service, the year before I bought it. But I service it every year, fingers crossed its ok
The first years the 208 were also available with the 1,4 and 1,6 VTi and THP. They had a distribution chain and most of the problems were solved by then. The 1,6 HDi are reliable.
Ford say they have solved the issues with the Ecoboom, In reality all they have done is reduce the service and belt replacement intervals but they still go wrong
Sadly Honda was the same way a few years back with their 1.0L engines. £1800 every 5 years with the dealer or £800-£1300 at an indy. But on the plus side it seems they learned their lesson.
@@carukchannelyou've also to be careful with some VW chains 3 cylinder and 1.2 Polo etc....when the chain stretches slightly theres a chance of jumping the chain when doing a simple oil change. The tensioner uses oil for tension and when you first start the car after an oil change there's a chance the chain can jump as the tensioner isn't fully tensioned and there's some stretch in the chain....it causes alot of damage.
1st time watching this video and being a ford rs owners club member such a honest guy and so truly right in what he said we as members of ford new this from the beginning and ford was told and refused advice from former ford nuts that a 1lt eco boost was a very bad idea not as bad as the 2.0 st eco boost but sill have loads of issues nevertheless at least they didn’t have a wet belt! They are called eco boom for a reason and ford never learned from the start of the builds even the 2.3 focus rs mk3 have a week bottom end and put con rods though the side of the block the usa even use a 2.0 eco boost bottom end to replace the 2.3 rs bottom end to make the stronger just goes to show what a pattern there is on different cc engines of fords 👍
Looks like original pipes , There is an upgrade to mk3.5 coolant pipes. But it still has that plastic straw type pipe to side of engine that just clips in , very poor design as rubber pipes have proved very reliable for decades .
My oil temp was showing hot, then the bonnet started smoking. It had been leaking oil slowly for a few years, so I just thought it was dry, got it filled , but it didn't fix it. Filled it some more cause it was still low. Still ended up smoking after a bit. Eventually figured out the coolant was dry, topped that up but still didn't help, the garage eventually said it's the pump. Cost x to replace, but you've probably messed up the block already... So it sounds like what happened to your customer (this was a meriva 2007). It also was losing power. I'm glad to hear the same conclusion on our cars, so I was right to just leave the meriva at the garage and just closed on a ford focus estate 2011.
Daughters 23 plate eco boost's engine gave up last Friday (8th), recovered to local ford dealers where she purchased the car 11 months ago, currently awaiting delivery of new engine being fitted under warranty. Guess it suffered the same problems.
I first heard of this EcoBoost coolant issue many years ago when a cousin's good friend's Focus caught fire in the Mersey Tunnel, an HGV driver stopped and put it out - coolant (which is flammable when atomised - a la Pontiac Fiero) sprayed onto the exhaust and up it went, Ford tried to charge over £10k for new wiring, new engine etc until I stepped in. In this instance I recall it was a faulty aluminium casting, from Mexico. Re glow plugs, for future ref a mobile specialist from Yorkshire guarantees and removed those broken from a friend's Mk6 Fiesta 1.6 Ford/PSA. On my Merc I soaked for three days in best penetrating oil then loosened off with a special premium socket on a 1/4" drive impact wrench, starting on the lowest setting.
I've seen a recent Ford model where they replaced the wet belt with a chain, and in an apparent F-you to their customers the drive belt was still wet and its replacement still needed the chain removed. Needless to say I'm done with Fords.
You mean the oil pump belt is wet yeah even though they swapped it to timing chain it boggles the mind that they are still doing a wet belt and still a wet belt in the transit ecoblue diesels it's probably even worse in those because u will have fuel dilution from dpf regens that will eat the belt faster
@@sbrader97 A commercial engine typically has a harder life anyway so it just accelerates the problem. Tell me this, have you ever seen a Amazon or DPD van that isn't being driven by a mad man racer.
It's worth avoiding the modern drama junk and concentrate of good cars. Yaris, Corolla and the better older cars - Astra H, Focus 1 and 2 but finding nice ones is getting hard now.
On the glowplug issue but equally seized bolts in general. I built a spot welder that has proven fantastic for heating up seized boots. Can take up ro 12mm to white hot if required. If interssted let me know.
I’ve seen two issues with diesels that crank for a long time but dont start. Leaky injectors that are leaking over night flooding the engine (would make sense as it smokes on start up) not leaking enough to effect running but enough in say 10-12 hours to slightly flood the engine. Or return pipe not holding pressure so pressures off on first start in the morning. I’d put my money on leaky injectors causing long cranking as you mentioned it smokes.
Recently got a car for my granddaughter, she wanted a Ford Focus. Her and her brother (a mechanic) managed to get a 12 plate Focus Zetec Estate, 1.6 diesel, 90K miles, FSH, from a garage in Oldham, in very good condition for around £4K. The 1.6 and later 1.5 diesels are a very good engine, I've got a 64 plate Ford C Max Grand 1.6 diesel, it's now done 91K, MOT due next month, should pass without any problem. Also I get around 44 mpg around town, 50 mpg on a decent run. Focuses are great cars to drive, just steer clear of the Ecoboost, buy ones with normal petrol or diesels, as Lee recommends. Looks like Lee is after Edd China's job here, very informative....
Who goes back to a dealer 14 months later with an issue? That's bonkers. Anyway, its good you have a good relationship with the customer and he bought another car from you. I'd have given him a small discount (and a stern lecture on the importance of reacting to issues and actively performing maintenance) just for being a return tbh. One thing you might want to try and do is identify people's "use case" for the vehicle and advise if doing the school run in a turbo diesel or motorway miles in a 1.0 eco boost are really the best options..
Hi Lee,with reference to that focus, you mention that a second hand 1.0 liter ecoboost is very expensive and a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine is cheaper.why don't you replace this damaged engine with a second hand 1.6 liter unit?
Neighbours daughter bought one after I told her to buy a Toyota Corolla. 2 months later another neighbour bought one as she liked the colour. ....😬 .....I give up.
Stuff like this has happened to me many times in my life. People don't listen only to pull that all to familiar face sometime later. Just have to accept that some people need to learn the hard way.
I always tell people to buy Japanese especially Toyota but besides my Mum I have convinced nobody but boy am I very unsypmathetic when their cars break. My Mum bought a Suzuki Alto I checked it over before she did but told her it was almost perfect besides one missing service. Nah people want muh premium badger especially the German stuff. I know someone who has a Ranger Rover and they're on their 3rd engine because the timing chain failed twice both were replaced under warranty but just imagine paying outside of warranty. I laugh at them and show them zero sympathy especially when they could have bought a Lexus SUV.
Gutted for your customer with the Ecoboost,but you can't predict a hose failing after 14 months.seems on this occasion the wet belt hasn't been the cause of the engine going bad.
Was the car running the redesigned pipe as part of the first recall? If it wasn't you might have a case with Ford as the 12 plate was part of the recall.
If you run the engine for a few minutes before attempting to remove glowplugs it sometimes helps. The aluminium head expands faster than the steel glowplugs which sometimes makes them unscrew a bit easier 👍
If they have been looked after they will do the time, I’ve changed the belts on 30+cars we have sold and looked after from 2-3 years old and none of the belts have shown any signs of degradation, if they’ve been neglected then expect the worst if you look after them they will do what you ask of them!!
It a good little engine when it’s ok , goes well for a 1 litre , but as I work in the motor trade I see many failures now they are getting old . Ford transits with the wet belt are a nightmare too
Hi Lee, great content keep the videos coming. What's your opinion on the mild hybrid eco boosts with chains? I know it's probably too early to make judgements and they still have a belt on the oil pump for whatever reason. such a shame as they drive well.
My dad had one on the fourcourt sold to the customer done the wet belt and then the engine done the same thing as yours so currently in the process of buying another engine , had to buy back of the customer been sitting on our drive away for a couple months now poor car 😂😂
Would I buy a car of you? Yes I would it is quite simple you are highly intelligent where cars are concerned and you know your craft. Unfortunately you have had a run of bad luck lately but that is the nature of the beast especially in car sales. Good luck in the future Lee 👍👍
The Ford Falcon in Australia had a 2 litre ecoboost option..Standard was a 4.1 litre 6 with a couple of V8's. We considered the ecoboost nothing more than a joke.
It's a sad state that when all acar needs is an engine, the complexity and shiteness behind some of today's engines means that it just ain't worth it. Ecobooms being the case in point
I thought maybe Ford could of done something on the 1.25 Fiesta engine?Maybe made it greener.Could of kept it in production & used for different models as it is such a proven reliable engine.
That's class that you've collaborated with Joe and the other youtube car sales guys. I'd say I enjoy your videos the best but Shifting metal is a close second! :)
I remember saying when these first came out they’re designed to prematurely fail, it stands to reason, some doubted me at the time… terrible idea. EcoBoom is very fitting for them.
This happened to my mk7.5 fiesta st 1.6. temp gauge never ever raised above half, only indication something was wrong was the smoke out the back on the motorway
Rented a Focus in France a few years back, 4 passengers on board, lovely to drive, no bother going up the Alps and economical, I thought it was a diesel until I went to refuel it, realised it was petrol, later pulled the bonnet thinking it was a 1.6 petrol but no only 3 cylinders, the boom machine. A shame , reliability is proper engineering
Lee you have a vlog saying don’t touch these😂. The manufacturers need a group action against them, they clearly aren’t for for purpose. I has a couple of 1.25 zetecs were fabulous cars with nimble chassis
Im 1mi 5sec into your video while your explaining Vehicle Score Sponser. Your video title is I SOLD A CUSTOMER A FORD ECOBOOST - NOW IT'S BLOWN UP. I look upto the top right hand corner of the next RUclips suggestion and it's one of your video's from 2 months ago with the title " I BOUGHT A BROKEN FORD ECOBOOST". ..........Priceless.
You wouldn't, but they've outsourced their engines from Mazda, Peugeot, and Renault in the years before. The Ford engines were either ancient designs or from their American division. I guess they've forgotten how to engineer a reliable engine. I didn't think the 2.0 Ecoboost was that bad, but you could only find it with a manual gearbox in the Focus ST. In the Mondeo, it was only available with the insanely unreliable Powershift automatic transmission. The only good Mondeo of the final model was the hybrid one.
Simple rule of thumb, avoid all 1.0 3 cyclinder engines. My Honda 1.0 3 cyclinder died at 45000 miles and the dealership couldn't fix it. Had all recalls and service schedule was always on time. Just avoid full stop.
I said, "No compression", on first hearing the turning. I've heard that a few times in my life. BUT, never on a Renault, or Peugeot, or Citroën, or SEAT, or Škoda. It was mostly my Fords. Not my 100E, upgraded to a 107E, nor my Cortina Mk1 GT, nor my Lotus Cortina Mk1, nor my Escort Mk1 van, used for 16 years as a DJ's transport! Just the modern ones.
A question from a dummy , could you pur a 1.25 engine in that ecoboom. I learned from your vids to keep away from the ecoboom . Great vid by the way lee .
Wet Cam Belts avoid!!! The cambelts shred tiny bits of the rubber into the engine oil during normal use which is not an issue on a normal belt but these particulates then block the oil holes up in the cylinder block the engine gets very grumpy about it - Ford have known about this for ages but keep trying to hide the issue which is very very naughty and they should sit on the naughty step
Those smart motorways have emergency lay-bys around every 1 mile so no excuse really,I know because my car was playing up last week on the m6 and I was taking note of them just in case I had to pull in
If I owned a "Wet Belt" Engine vehicle the first thing I would do would be check google to see if there was a Timing Chain Conversion Kit available for the engine. Who wants an engine with Belt teeth clogging the Vacuum Pump Pick Up and apparently reducing braking reliability.... Well Done Ford for not recalling this issue as I believe it did in the USA for 140K Eco boost Vehicles (Auto Boxes Only.. but hey who's meet an American who can drive a "Stick-Shift" Transmission?)
Hope you enjoy, also don't forget to check out my debut on the Shifting metal Podcast channel (LINK BELOW) @shiftingmetal where I joined Joe, James and Dave for a chat (y)
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Loved hearing your backstory & how you kept going 👍🙏top man👍
See you soon Lee, hopefully this week 🚙
Great podcast I was watching you guys on Sunday night.
Good to see you on there , all my favorite car guy's together .
The 1.0 Ecoboost - the gift that keeps giving.
I owned an Ecoboost Focus 1.0 for 3 years, bought at 2 years old. The engine failed at under 35k with an internal coolant leak. The mechanic said buy a new engine. Ford did nothing to help. The car was eventually scrapped
I've had mine for 10 years,100k km. Not a single problem in that time. Even has the original exhaust. I replace tires, brakes, oil, filters, coolant. Might break tomorrow, but good so far.
@@slugboy123dyour one of the very lucky ones
There is a 1ltr Ecoboost, didnt even know till this video. In Australia they brought out a 2.0 ecoboost as an option engine for our ford falcons. They are junk too. Don't even see them on the roads anymore 10 years after they were released.
If I ever see a car with an Ecoboost engine I will run a mile now and that is all thanks to the education here from you mate! Great stuff! Before subbing to your channel I would have had no idea and may have possibly purchased one of these.
Your mechanic is an asset to the pitch. Looking forward to the Meriva video.
When I was recently back In the uk I bought my daughter a fiesta automatic, I made sure it was not an ecoboom, in no small part because of your videos, thank you
I hope it doesn't have the power shift transmission.
@@davidnorton5887 Yeah I wouldnt get an auto fiesta
Excellent customer service as normal Lee.
Back to my college days.A petrol engine needs four things to enable it to run. Fuel, compression, Ignition and air. Had to point this out to a garage who bent all the inlet valves on my car and denied any wrong doing. The court saw it differently !!!! Great Channel as always.
F.A.S.T.: Fuel, Air, Spark, Timing, although I guess that's really FAST-C.
5 things
Need a key to make them go too
Back in my college days hasn't left college yet 🤦
Thank you for your video, 100% I won't buy a car with a wet belt after this. Love your honesty on white car and giving refund of deposit to client.
Great Lee, enjoyed the podcast too - it was great to see you finally on with the other guys
Great update Lee. Hopefully, you sell a few more this week. Your mechanic is an asset to your pitch. Have a great week Lee.
With ya hood up, I thought the Jedi had landed 😂, great insight video again. 😎👍
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Love the videos. Nice to actually see there's still a few decent car dealers left. As for that 11 plate merriva. BURN IT from experience NEVER AGAIN would I have one. You name it I replaced it on a merriva I owned and it was still never right. 2 and a half grand in a month spent on it and I practically gave it away before I lost my sanity.
Thanks. I was literally considering buying 1L ecoboost
Might be best to unconsider it now
@Interdimensional27 well, talks about reducing service interval to 4-5K + quality oil nearly lulled me. I really like focus. Could have been the rocket.
@@KTOMbI Change oil every 5K, Castrol magnetic 5-20, run it on 97-99 octane fuel.
Noooooo
@@modmod392 thanks
I bought a car from a garage a while back and I was looking at their current stock last week, and thanks to you I knew to avoid, as most of it has ecoboom and puresh1t engines. Thanks Lee. 👍
Just spend a bit more and get a Japanese car as long as it isn't the Hondas with the new 1.0 VTEC and 1.5 VTEC
I've decided if I want a new cheapy car I'll drive to Crewe for it. More likely to go 2nd hand EV though
@@gravemind6536 The 1.5L uses a chain; it's the 1.0L where they cheaped out.
It's seems there are hundreds of ecobooms for sale at the moment. I get dealers need to sell stock to make money but as a cosumer I'd avoid them completely
@@PatLadsChan99 This is a 12 year old car. If these cars are still around at 10+ years old, you can't really say there's a fundamental problem with them. Buying any old car is a minefield.
Just had to replace this 1L engine on our 2017 focus from wetbelt failure, New core fitted only to be told the turbo also had been destroyed by the wetbelt teeth. Only hearing about this flimsy de-gas pipe with head gasket failure, so glad to hear Ford have designed this bomb with multiple fuses
A bomb with multiple fuses! - I am a used car dealer and I will steal that phrase, thank you!!!
I wouldn't touch any car which has a wet belt with a barge pole.
Exactly rude boy 👍
I have seen timing belts snap and chains snap too. Maintenance is key on all
@@Matty12333 Yeah but standard maintaince isn't enough with wet belts and especially badly designed engines like the 1.0 ecoboost where wet belts are not the only issue. Chains almost never snap either with chain driven engiens it's the tensioners breaking that cause problems. Cambelts only snap if not replaced within specified intervals and even then most standard timing belts last way longer than interval. Wet belts even with full dealer servicing in line with intervals is not always enough for wetbelts.
@@Matty12333That's not relevant.
@@Matty12333 ford said there belts were good for 100000 miles most go before 30000 in which case they are not long out of warranty so you would expect to have it checked weekly ? monthly ? cos that would be ridicules right ? would it if you were sitting in a time bomb ?
Im here from chops garage, youre another great dealer to follow
Welcome aboard! 👍👍
I have had 3 Fords , two Sierra's and one Escort van . Never had any trouble , but wet belts and 1.0 litre Turbo's no . I will stick with my Chain driven Honda . ps thanks for your Engine information , many people like my Sister Inlaw pick her car by " Oh , thats a nice Colour " 🤣
Some years ago I worked for Ford in their quality control department. I left after 3-years, never having found any😉
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Great video Lee, yes good to see you on the car dealer podcast, tonight has been great viewing
Great to see you on the podcast with with joe & chop,s .
Eco boom as they are known in the circle,welt belt is the problem on these shit engines….if I was selling cars I’d avoid buying any of these eco boom engines…
Lee. Solid POD!!! Enjoyed hearing about your auction you ran. Landlord Bhatch not the best. Good stuff.
Thanks Bud 👍
I saw a short of Shifting Metal which is also great to watch, getting to where our are now with your last £80 is admirable👍
I'm loving my Focus ST. Winter mornings are no problem with the heated seats and heated front windscreen. Bring on the frost! 😂
love your honesty my wife has a vauxhall wet belt great video
I agree on the Astra H's, loved my old 54 plate diesel with the Z17DTH engine, they are bombproof apart from the swirl flaps jamming and needing new manifold! Causes a loss of power until you hit 2,000rpm, they had big turbos! Replaced it with a 2016 Astra K 3 cylinder 1 litre turbo (B10XFL), no issues at 49,874 miles! So responsive, a fun car to drive! Better than the 1.4 and 1.6 versions!
You my man are 1 of the most trustworthy dealers/ RUclipsrs on tube, if you lived further south down the country I'd be a regular buyer from you, unfortunately your a wee bit too far north for me to travel, but you seem to be a thoroughly nice guy 😊
Many thanks jerry
I agree - I am rather too far north being in Perthshire! I have however, learned loads from Lee about Fiats, Fords. Kia, etc. Keep 'em coming, Lee.
Really enjoyed the podcast as you 4 are the best on RUclips by a mile
Thanks matt
Li, those dead cars in the corner reminded me of something. I walked past that infamous FIAT 500 yellow taxi cab here in Portsmouth complete with a PCN on the screen. couldn't believe my eyes!!! (picture available)
The 1.0ltr Ecoboast is the modern day K - Series! At work we have that year Focus with the 1.6 TDCI. Great engine. Great car. 😊
Thank You.. Excellent video and info👍
I have a Ford Focus Ecoboost, came across your channel a few months ago. Needless to say I'm saving for a newer car, I just hope I can afford a new one before my current car dies on me. Thanks for your videos
If it's a 1.6 you should be ok.
Maintain your car well and you’ll be fine. Hope it was well maintained before your ownership too.
Cheaper option is just go get the wet belt done on your car if you are worried don’t replace the car because of one component
It's a 1.0 unfortunately. Thanks for the advice, it's missed one service, the year before I bought it. But I service it every year, fingers crossed its ok
Get it serviced at a Ford dealer and you’ll be okay. Problem is people don’t get them serviced or use local garages that don’t do a proper job.
Thank you
Great video. Feels like my time is coming with mine and only on 35k 2018...Wish I knew about these belts before I bought it 👍
You can get a new timing belt and water pump belt fitted for around £1000. Depends on how long you want to keep it.
Nice Pug 208 diesel, a good engine, the diesel, one of the besr.
The first years the 208 were also available with the 1,4 and 1,6 VTi and THP. They had a distribution chain and most of the problems were solved by then. The 1,6 HDi are reliable.
@@LennertWelleman you are correct also the C3 briefly ran the prince engine around that time of the 208 launch
Ford say they have solved the issues with the Ecoboom, In reality all they have done is reduce the service and belt replacement intervals but they still go wrong
Agree with that, they have also massively reduced the belt change on the 2.0 diesels which run wet belts as they keep snapping early
Sadly Honda was the same way a few years back with their 1.0L engines. £1800 every 5 years with the dealer or £800-£1300 at an indy.
But on the plus side it seems they learned their lesson.
I saw a 2017 fiesta with 49,000 miles and full service history but I didn't buy it
As far as I know the newer ones have chains, if the timing belt cover is silver metal its a chain.... black plastic it's a wet belt.
@@carukchannelyou've also to be careful with some VW chains 3 cylinder and 1.2 Polo etc....when the chain stretches slightly theres a chance of jumping the chain when doing a simple oil change. The tensioner uses oil for tension and when you first start the car after an oil change there's a chance the chain can jump as the tensioner isn't fully tensioned and there's some stretch in the chain....it causes alot of damage.
99,000 views! Car UK has gone global 🥳
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Loved the podcast. I hope you can do it again soon.
I hope so too!
1st time watching this video and being a ford rs owners club member such a honest guy and so truly right in what he said we as members of ford new this from the beginning and ford was told and refused advice from former ford nuts that a 1lt eco boost was a very bad idea not as bad as the 2.0 st eco boost but sill have loads of issues nevertheless at least they didn’t have a wet belt! They are called eco boom for a reason and ford never learned from the start of the builds even the 2.3 focus rs mk3 have a week bottom end and put con rods though the side of the block the usa even use a 2.0 eco boost bottom end to replace the 2.3 rs bottom end to make the stronger just goes to show what a pattern there is on different cc engines of fords 👍
Done me up like a kipper 🤣🤣 classic great content Lee
Looks like original pipes , There is an upgrade to mk3.5 coolant pipes. But it still has that plastic straw type pipe to side of engine that just clips in , very poor design as rubber pipes have proved very reliable for decades .
We just twisted the pipe when they first gave problems, took them to Ford's and they fitted a new engine😂....no problems at all.
Every trader should be like you lee👍
I was lost for words when my sister bought a Ford with a Ecoboom engine I’m keeping 🤐
The upgrade pipe is definitely better I replaced mine as soon as I brought it .
We had a 1.6 Focus Ecoboost. Didn't have a single problem
My oil temp was showing hot, then the bonnet started smoking. It had been leaking oil slowly for a few years, so I just thought it was dry, got it filled , but it didn't fix it. Filled it some more cause it was still low. Still ended up smoking after a bit. Eventually figured out the coolant was dry, topped that up but still didn't help, the garage eventually said it's the pump. Cost x to replace, but you've probably messed up the block already... So it sounds like what happened to your customer (this was a meriva 2007). It also was losing power. I'm glad to hear the same conclusion on our cars, so I was right to just leave the meriva at the garage and just closed on a ford focus estate 2011.
Looking forward to seeing the A3 Lee
Induction, compression, combustion, exhaust....or suck, squeeze, bang, blow are the 4 strokes of an engine 👍
Daughters 23 plate eco boost's engine gave up last Friday (8th), recovered to local ford dealers where she purchased the car 11 months ago, currently awaiting delivery of new engine being fitted under warranty. Guess it suffered the same problems.
I first heard of this EcoBoost coolant issue many years ago when a cousin's good friend's Focus caught fire in the Mersey Tunnel, an HGV driver stopped and put it out - coolant (which is flammable when atomised - a la Pontiac Fiero) sprayed onto the exhaust and up it went, Ford tried to charge over £10k for new wiring, new engine etc until I stepped in. In this instance I recall it was a faulty aluminium casting, from Mexico.
Re glow plugs, for future ref a mobile specialist from Yorkshire guarantees and removed those broken from a friend's Mk6 Fiesta 1.6 Ford/PSA. On my Merc I soaked for three days in best penetrating oil then loosened off with a special premium socket on a 1/4" drive impact wrench, starting on the lowest setting.
I've seen a recent Ford model where they replaced the wet belt with a chain, and in an apparent F-you to their customers the drive belt was still wet and its replacement still needed the chain removed.
Needless to say I'm done with Fords.
You mean the oil pump belt is wet yeah even though they swapped it to timing chain it boggles the mind that they are still doing a wet belt and still a wet belt in the transit ecoblue diesels it's probably even worse in those because u will have fuel dilution from dpf regens that will eat the belt faster
@@sbrader97 A commercial engine typically has a harder life anyway so it just accelerates the problem. Tell me this, have you ever seen a Amazon or DPD van that isn't being driven by a mad man racer.
@gravemind6536 Yeah and left idle for hours too
VW use a wet belt on the 2.0 Tdi for the oil pump too.
I too bought a ford focus with the ecoboom engine. It went boom.
It's worth avoiding the modern drama junk and concentrate of good cars. Yaris, Corolla and the better older cars - Astra H, Focus 1 and 2 but finding nice ones is getting hard now.
Have to admire the Focus owner, if in doubt, flat out 😅 Shame for him though, hope the wee Peugeot serves him well.
Great to see you on podcast with joe dave and chops 👌
Another great video
Nice video Lee...👍
There should be a website where you can check for wet belt engines.
There is, it's called google
Ford & Peugeot (Vauxhall) main culprits
Over complicated engine = unreliable.
On the glowplug issue but equally seized bolts in general. I built a spot welder that has proven fantastic for heating up seized boots. Can take up ro 12mm to white hot if required.
If interssted let me know.
I’ve seen two issues with diesels that crank for a long time but dont start. Leaky injectors that are leaking over night flooding the engine (would make sense as it smokes on start up) not leaking enough to effect running but enough in say 10-12 hours to slightly flood the engine.
Or return pipe not holding pressure so pressures off on first start in the morning.
I’d put my money on leaky injectors causing long cranking as you mentioned it smokes.
Recently got a car for my granddaughter, she wanted a Ford Focus. Her and her brother (a mechanic) managed to get a 12 plate Focus Zetec Estate, 1.6 diesel, 90K miles, FSH, from a garage in Oldham, in very good condition for around £4K. The 1.6 and later 1.5 diesels are a very good engine, I've got a 64 plate Ford C Max Grand 1.6 diesel, it's now done 91K, MOT due next month, should pass without any problem. Also I get around 44 mpg around town, 50 mpg on a decent run. Focuses are great cars to drive, just steer clear of the Ecoboost, buy ones with normal petrol or diesels, as Lee recommends. Looks like Lee is after Edd China's job here, very informative....
Just watched the podcast, excellent 👍
Who goes back to a dealer 14 months later with an issue? That's bonkers. Anyway, its good you have a good relationship with the customer and he bought another car from you. I'd have given him a small discount (and a stern lecture on the importance of reacting to issues and actively performing maintenance) just for being a return tbh. One thing you might want to try and do is identify people's "use case" for the vehicle and advise if doing the school run in a turbo diesel or motorway miles in a 1.0 eco boost are really the best options..
Hi Lee,with reference to that focus, you mention that a second hand 1.0 liter ecoboost is very expensive and a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine is cheaper.why don't you replace this damaged engine with a second hand 1.6 liter unit?
A modification that insurers might not like?
I was thinking the same. Can you simply swap it in?
Neighbours daughter bought one after I told her to buy a Toyota Corolla.
2 months later another neighbour bought one as she liked the colour. ....😬 .....I give up.
Well I don't understand why you say this. The very nice salesman said it was a great car !!!!
Stuff like this has happened to me many times in my life. People don't listen only to pull that all to familiar face sometime later.
Just have to accept that some people need to learn the hard way.
I always tell people to buy Japanese especially Toyota but besides my Mum I have convinced nobody but boy am I very unsypmathetic when their cars break. My Mum bought a Suzuki Alto I checked it over before she did but told her it was almost perfect besides one missing service. Nah people want muh premium badger especially the German stuff. I know someone who has a Ranger Rover and they're on their 3rd engine because the timing chain failed twice both were replaced under warranty but just imagine paying outside of warranty. I laugh at them and show them zero sympathy especially when they could have bought a Lexus SUV.
Gutted for your customer with the Ecoboost,but you can't predict a hose failing after 14 months.seems on this occasion the wet belt hasn't been the cause of the engine going bad.
Agree real shame, if it had not gone on the motorway he possibly would of saved it by pulling over. Thanks for watching tom
Was the car running the redesigned pipe as part of the first recall? If it wasn't you might have a case with Ford as the 12 plate was part of the recall.
If you run the engine for a few minutes before attempting to remove glowplugs it sometimes helps. The aluminium head expands faster than the steel glowplugs which sometimes makes them unscrew a bit easier 👍
We tried this but sadly did not work 😢
8:48 that engine needs 5 things to run, not 3... Air, fuel, spark, compression & timing
If they have been looked after they will do the time, I’ve changed the belts on 30+cars we have sold and looked after from 2-3 years old and none of the belts have shown any signs of degradation, if they’ve been neglected then expect the worst if you look after them they will do what you ask of them!!
It a good little engine when it’s ok , goes well for a 1 litre , but as I work in the motor trade I see many failures now they are getting old . Ford transits with the wet belt are a nightmare too
Hi Lee, great content keep the videos coming. What's your opinion on the mild hybrid eco boosts with chains? I know it's probably too early to make judgements and they still have a belt on the oil pump for whatever reason. such a shame as they drive well.
My dad had one on the fourcourt sold to the customer done the wet belt and then the engine done the same thing as yours so currently in the process of buying another engine , had to buy back of the customer been sitting on our drive away for a couple months now poor car 😂😂
Another great video Lee. There's always one or two every now and again which bite you. Keep it up mate !
Thanks andy
Would I buy a car of you? Yes I would it is quite simple you are highly intelligent where cars are concerned and you know your craft. Unfortunately you have had a run of bad luck lately but that is the nature of the beast especially in car sales. Good luck in the future Lee 👍👍
The Ford Falcon in Australia had a 2 litre ecoboost option..Standard was a 4.1 litre 6 with a couple of V8's. We considered the ecoboost nothing more than a joke.
Those plastic pieces on the head snap just looking at them too long , broke a couple doing clutches
Eco-Burst the green engine!
It's a sad state that when all acar needs is an engine, the complexity and shiteness behind some of today's engines means that it just ain't worth it. Ecobooms being the case in point
I thought maybe Ford could of done something on the 1.25 Fiesta engine?Maybe made it greener.Could of kept it in production & used for different models as it is such a proven reliable engine.
That engine was designed by Yamaha. Ford thought they could do better but don't have a clue.
That's class that you've collaborated with Joe and the other youtube car sales guys. I'd say I enjoy your videos the best but Shifting metal is a close second! :)
Thanks mr mackem 👍👍
Great content as always. Had any interest in the maserati? If you drop it to £5k I'll be across🤣
I remember saying when these first came out they’re designed to prematurely fail, it stands to reason, some doubted me at the time… terrible idea. EcoBoom is very fitting for them.
Check the glow plug relay . Had that on a scenic a few yrs ago
This happened to my mk7.5 fiesta st 1.6. temp gauge never ever raised above half, only indication something was wrong was the smoke out the back on the motorway
Rented a Focus in France a few years back, 4 passengers on board, lovely to drive, no bother going up the Alps and economical, I thought it was a diesel until I went to refuel it, realised it was petrol, later pulled the bonnet thinking it was a 1.6 petrol but no only 3 cylinders, the boom machine. A shame , reliability is proper engineering
Toyota got it right with their 1.2 4 cylinder turbo petrol unit but sadly it never sold enough but it's a very solid petrol engine.
Eco as you'll end up walking more than those yokes will drive
Lee you have a vlog saying don’t touch these😂. The manufacturers need a group action against them, they clearly aren’t for for purpose. I has a couple of 1.25 zetecs were fabulous cars with nimble chassis
Im 1mi 5sec into your video while your explaining Vehicle Score Sponser. Your video title is I SOLD A CUSTOMER A FORD ECOBOOST - NOW IT'S BLOWN UP. I look upto the top right hand corner of the next RUclips suggestion and it's one of your video's from 2 months ago with the title " I BOUGHT A BROKEN FORD ECOBOOST". ..........Priceless.
My work mate has one of these, said the engine light has been on for months, he’s waiting for it to go bang 😂
I have one, the engine light has recently come on, i think its the catalytic converter
yes they do burn out the cat converters it’s very common, the fault code will be Catalic efficiency. new cat and you will be all good 👍
You wouldn’t imagine a company like Ford couldn’t make a reliable engines.
You wouldn't, but they've outsourced their engines from Mazda, Peugeot, and Renault in the years before. The Ford engines were either ancient designs or from their American division. I guess they've forgotten how to engineer a reliable engine.
I didn't think the 2.0 Ecoboost was that bad, but you could only find it with a manual gearbox in the Focus ST. In the Mondeo, it was only available with the insanely unreliable Powershift automatic transmission. The only good Mondeo of the final model was the hybrid one.
It wasn't the engine. It is the belt or the pipe, both cheap parts failing and destroying an expensive part (the engine).
I worked in the print industry a saw what happened to wet belts.they are just a ticking time bomb.
Simple rule of thumb, avoid all 1.0 3 cyclinder engines. My Honda 1.0 3 cyclinder died at 45000 miles and the dealership couldn't fix it. Had all recalls and service schedule was always on time. Just avoid full stop.
I said, "No compression", on first hearing the turning. I've heard that a few times in my life. BUT, never on a Renault, or Peugeot, or Citroën, or SEAT, or Škoda. It was mostly my Fords. Not my 100E, upgraded to a 107E, nor my Cortina Mk1 GT, nor my Lotus Cortina Mk1, nor my Escort Mk1 van, used for 16 years as a DJ's transport! Just the modern ones.
A question from a dummy , could you pur a 1.25 engine in that ecoboom. I learned from your vids to keep away from the ecoboom . Great vid by the way lee .
It could be done but the effort and parts needed to change it, wire mounts etc it would not be worth it.
Wet Cam Belts avoid!!! The cambelts shred tiny bits of the rubber into the engine oil during normal use which is not an issue on a normal belt but these particulates then block the oil holes up in the cylinder block the engine gets very grumpy about it - Ford have known about this for ages but keep trying to hide the issue which is very very naughty and they should sit on the naughty step
Those smart motorways have emergency lay-bys around every 1 mile so no excuse really,I know because my car was playing up last week on the m6 and I was taking note of them just in case I had to pull in
If I owned a "Wet Belt" Engine vehicle the first thing I would do would be check google to see if there was a Timing Chain Conversion Kit available for the engine. Who wants an engine with Belt teeth clogging the Vacuum Pump Pick Up and apparently reducing braking reliability.... Well Done Ford for not recalling this issue as I believe it did in the USA for 140K Eco boost Vehicles (Auto Boxes Only.. but hey who's meet an American who can drive a "Stick-Shift" Transmission?)
glow plugs....one of the more terrifying tasks on a diesel.