Comments from our Viewers Cost of the Rocket. Credits "Burning Sinner" These rockets are actually $350-450 a pop for all non-guided ones. Well, russian military doesn't pay the export pricetag for anything. My numbers are essentially 2004 (Nothing to see here, officer, 15 years has passed) price tags adjusted for inflation (In Russia, you have global multipliers rolled down by the feds. Feds never pay more than infation adjustment rates, that's why inflation rate is one piece of data you can actually trust on, every factory depending on the government lives and dies by these multipliers). These don't adjust for new tech though. Laser cutting should have sliced the prices significantly (Bulk of the price for HEFI rockets is for all the thin rods being cut into ready-made fragments. I know that new rods are cut with lasers, but I no longer involved in the system to give you the exact numbers on the internal math). "Георгий Тимофеевский " I heard a claim that grad missiles costed (in 2005) costed 6000 to 60000 roubles, which was like 200 to 2000 dollars. So, the price in your video seems like the upper boundary
@@nehorlavazapalka That's where you are wrong though. We russians don't buy stuff on the market unless it's needed. And nobody get to sell on external markets unless he meets agreed upon internal demands. The access to external markets is something you work really, really hard for if you were unlucky to think of starting your bussiness in the wrong prospect. Growing and selling flowers is nice and dandy. Growing beets? Uh-oh, you better not hit that truckload volume unless you want to be regulated to hell and back since we produce sugar from beets and sugar is considered to be strategic resourse. Get ready to sell good chunk to the government at government prices too. Missile consist of 20.5kg of long artillery powder (It's about 3 dollars per kilo), 20 dollar fuse, roughly 6.4kg of explosives (Varies by type, but we talk about RDX levels of affordability, about 16 dollars per kilo. Rest is the work, the rods and the pipe. Rod is about 4 kg worth at $0.96/kg and pipe is roughly $0.75/kg All in all, for materials, you get $216 dollars. Rest is the work, assembly and very low profit margin Explosives - 102 dollars Powder - 61,5 dollars Fuse - 20 dollars (Produced by dedicated gov facility, price is non-negotiable) Rods - 3,84 dollars Pipe - 28,5 dollars. That's one thing people seem to fail to understand - when it comes to anything even remotely vital to the gov, market prices stop working because market stops working. USSR may have fallen, but we are essentially in state capitalism now. It gets to the point where we pay about $150/month for all our utilities and $5 dollar for our internet plan because basic needs coverage is NOT exactly considered non-government matter.
Domestic cost of Russian missiles are 4-12 times cheaper than export price depending on model. So Russia basically can spam millions of grad missiles with affordable cost
@@zero-su3un “small rockets , wouldn’t do a lot of damage” 😂😂 it is 122MM rocket it is as big as a howitzer , and btw 155MM howitzer have mostly 5/7 Kg of TNT this rocket have 25 Kg of TNT and there is 40 rocket 🤣🤣
i was a kid during Yugoslav wars and my hometown was often shelled with MLRS. Yugoslav army was using 8x4 128mm HE, 32 missile system. It's the scariest thing you can hear on the reciving end. The sound of firing comes faster then the missiles and then you can just count and hope it wont hit your house. Has enough explosive to destroy a brick house and two of my close neighbours lost their houses from it. Really scary shit...
My hometown suffers this every night for 5 months now, russians are shelling us with this thing and it is scary. Those bastards shelled us yesterday exactly on the new year as a sort of messed up joke, they hit the number of homes in our neighborhood, one of the shells hit residential building right in front of my windows, explosions were so lound that my family and I believed that this is it, our end, luckily no one was hurt, not even wounded just homes and apartments damaged. But everybody in our town is terrified, a lot of people here were killed or maimed by russian BM-21s for these past months.
The OLD BM-21 Grad has a range of 20km. But the improved new version of this system under the name TORNADO G. It has a range of over 40km, more than double the BM-21. And it has new opto-electronics, inertial/GPS and Glonas navigation. And everything is done from the truck, there is no need to mechanically calculate the parameters... Although this possibility is kept just in case. So the system remained simple, only twice as deadly and still cheap to operate and maintain.
Grads falling over our heads was very often in Beirut in the 80s. I survived many, the sound it makes when passing over is scary, and you can hear each explosion approaching closer and closer to your basic shelter (a kitchen or a ground floor of a building)
@@aeolus75 Glad to know some one like you who had faced War first hand. I only know about War as my Gradfather Fought with the British Army in World War 2. He told me he was afraid at first but when he was under fire,survival Instinsts kicks in.
@AiTelly and for all civilisations, currently living the tyranny of an occupation, we repeat Sir Winston Churchill words "we shall never surrender" PS: we used to call Grads "Orgues De Staline" in French 😉
Fun fact: In every Russian/Soviet Tank and Motor Rifle (mechanised infantry) Division there is an artillery regiment, which contains a rocket artillery battalion with 18 BM-21 Grad launchers, 3 batteries with 6 launchers each. Some Motor Rifle brigades also have a Grad battalion.
Russian solider here Grad is produced still by now, but new versions are called "Tornado-G". They have crucial upgrades which make this system more capable: new system of calculation of target (computer instead of a "dude with ballistic calculator", hence crew now is 2 men instead of 3), new chassis, faster timing of preparation for fire and leaving after it, and new missiles, three types. First - with larger range (up to 40 km), second - precision guided (by GLONASS as a Russian GPS, basically GMLRS but smaller), and third with cluster anti-tank munitions (small cumulative granades)
Got the pleasure to travel in an old camperized 6x6 soviet surplus Ural... They are simply unstoppable, desert, mud, snow, ice... Even whit a basically an house on his back we managed to go in some nasty zones... Beautiful machine
This system was first used in 1969 during the Sino-Soviet Border Conflict. He demonstrated his effectiveness by eradicating any Chinese presence from Zhenbao Island.
Himars is for striking an ammo or even a sam site meaning it has accurate yet very limited fire. While this bad boy has not so good accuracy but covers huge swathes of land and if used in pairs or even in a group of 3 or 4 this can clear neighborhoods in urban combat.
These are not vehicles of the same category. This is a vehicle with 122 mm. While Himars is 262 mm. Also, many versions of the Grad have guided ammunition.
@@googleplex1589 Those who say that have no idea what they are talking about. They don't even know the difference between the systems. I would say it's the other way around though. The economy of BM 21 is far greater than Himars.
@@googleplex1589 the high cost and limited Salvo of the himars has been resulting in mist of its missiles being intercepted, unless there is no short range air defense or the target isn't cost effective to protect. With the grad, smerch and other systems of their group, guided or unguided, they have enough projectiles to overwhelm almost any air defense. Like, which AA system has 40 missiles on tap? When there's multiple units too, and whats the cost of stopping all that? There are very few systems with cheap enough projectiles to even consider defending against them
Where the Russians are actively blocking GPS, Himars is useless. And many more Himars missiles were shot down by Russian air defense. Ukraine first shoots a hurricane, then Himars. This is the only tactic that works.
@@andrejaga3003 no, no they aren't 1) GPS jamming doesn't work because the missile has internal guidance 2) there is no successful example of a s-400 intercepting a m31, plenty to the contrary with the kherson bridge. 3) the grad storm to overload counter battery fire radars computers, so that the himar doesn't give away its position. Simply put the himar system saw the Russian artillery greatly weakened and saw kherson retaken.
@@terrynewsome6698 Ukraine struck multiple ammo reserves with the HIMARS in Kherson and if you couple that with the fact that it's hard as hell to get a supply chain going in Kherson from the russian's POV it's understandable why they gave up Kherson and chose to preserve their manpower and did a total withdrawal.
@@terrynewsome6698 The Russian Department of Defense reports are blocking, but if you find them, they regularly report how many Himars missiles the air defenses have destroyed. 6 missiles are easy to intercept, but they are very expensive. Therefore, the Ukrainians fire Typhoon missiles to distract the air defense, and then Himars. The Russians left Kherson because the Ukrainians shelled the dam every day. It survived because it was built by the Soviets with a large margin of safety. But if the Nazis had succeeded in destroying it, a lot of land would have been flooded in 2 hours, thousands of people would have died. Now Himars are actively used to shell Donetsk, but the Western media are silent about this.
Greetings from India .........we had used these Grads 21 during Kargil war 20 years back ....the punch of these missiles obliterated the montain top ,the enemy on it and their bunkers into oblivion ....awesome Russian equipment .....
Lies. Pakistan has similar systems with indigenous rockets and stabilizers . And secondly you could not take kargil back until UNO ordered akistan to pull out its army from kargil. Same happened in 1948-49 n 1965 wars. You guys ran to UN and ran away to Russia(Tashkent) in 65 in order to beg to stop the war.
I Iove your videos. But I would like chime in with my personal opinion on why this system is still in use and so effective. I know you mentioned the cost of the rocket and damage it can output compared to that cost. In addition to that, and I think is the "hero" part of the system, is the truck itself. These trucks have 3 plus points: 1. Cost: the truck itself is so damn cheap compared to armed options in term of production, operation, and maintenance. 2. Mobility: these trucks can literally go anywhere. 3. Durability: not only these trucks can go anywhy, but the can endure the journey. Great video as always.
Got one of these directly in my house in april. Quarter of house is vanished, but it's still standing. Tho the surrounding houses are grounded in 1km radius
In 1998 Ethiopian and Eritrean border war happen, every time the Ethiopians invaded with their large soldiers, the Eritreans used this and artillery to stop the invasion and it worked, in the end, the Ethiopians lost over 123,000 soldiers and Eritreans lost 19,000 soldiers.
Our country has a lot of those things! It is a great help that they fought side by side with us during the Cambodia-Thailand conflict over Preah Vihear Temple. and now seeing this, it sure did bring back memories.
The car shown in the video is already an upgraded version, it differs from the old Grad version, which has a different caliber and other characteristics
Glad I just discovered this channel, new sub here! Please can you make a video on the Tornado-S missile launcher and compare with the HIMARS? I hear both systems are very comparable.
HIMARS is somewhat similar to tornado.( depending on a munition/rocket that you use ). actually HIMARS is not just artillery...but rather a cross over between artillery and tactical balistic missile system. so artillery part of HIMARS is similar to torado and smerch....but tactical balistic missile munition for HIMARS is more comparable to ISKANDER
@@mal.3855 it makes no sense to compare HIMARS with BM_21. these were the first simplified MLRS after which they produced heavier and more accurate systems, Tornado-S and Tornado-G. 'Hurricane', 'Smerch' and 'Grad'. The Iskander, for example, has two long-range missiles and is comparable to the HIMARS with two missiles. in general, MLRS installations were invented in the first 1940 years by Soviet engineers to fight the German Nazis.
@@mal.3855 would you call Wikipedia "pro Russian"? The Wikipedia-quoted specs of the Tornado-S actually supercede HIMARS in range and warhead size. And GLONASS is just as good as GPS in precision of coordinate determination.
Just one thing. Missile means the rocket has some Form of guidance system. Rockets are unguided. Calling an unguided Rocket a missile is like calling the Nokia 3310 an android phone.
even though it was made in an old year, the BM-21 Grad rocket launcher machine is the main choice for countries that want multiple rocket launchers, this machine has succeeded in becoming an icon and has its own share, recorded users from most of the countries of Eastern Europe and the Middle East to almost countries on the continent of Africa and most of the countries in South Asia choose BM-21 Grad, and there are several countries in South America that also use it, BM stands for boyevaya mashina, and the nickname grad means "hail", even though it's old but has become an icon, although old but still muscular and deadly Thanks to AiTelly for making this very informative video Merci.... Barvo...AiTelly 👌😉👍👍
@@Putinsky_ORC besides, I also no longer subscribe or liked to this channel, well the reason is because it is too in favor of the western block, even though outside the western block there are also many interesting things to review, such as from Israel and France but until now it has not been made at all, even though this is an educational channel, not a westernized propaganda channel, but well cause you contacting me i try to response you, but i'm sorry I didnt understand your language, that's why meybe you can written on english
There´s a slight error concerning BM21 construction. In 01:04 both elevation and traverse are adjusted with same hand crank. First you just have to choose which one you are performing with "knob" on the right end of hand crank axel. Still, video is great! Thanks!
These rockets are actually $350-450 a pop for all non-guided ones. So yeah, full salvo of these bad boys is cheaper than the gear of one supatacticool safari hunter it vaporizes.
@@Aitelly Well, russian military doesn't pay the export pricetag for anything. My numbers are essentially 2004 (Nothing to see here, officer, 15 years has passed) price tags adjusted for inflation (In Russia, you have global multipliers rolled down by the feds. Feds never pay more than infation adjustment rates, that's why inflation rate is one piece of data you can actually trust on, every factory depending on the government lives and dies by these multipliers). These don't adjust for new tech though. Laser cutting should have sliced the prices significantly (Bulk of the price for HEFI rockets is for all the thin rods being cut into ready-made fragments. I know that new rods are cut with lasers, but I no longer involved in the system to give you the exact numbers on the internal math).
by the way, it is the first stage (booster) of these missiles that appears in 99% of the photos on the Internet, with the inscription "a Russian missile hit the house / yard and fortunately did not explode"
@@dimbasz With Patriots missiles it will be really hard to put blame on Russia next time missile hits the house. You can't miss Patriot missile with S-300 or BUK.
Я когда служил в армии был водителем bm 21 на базе грузовика Ural. По-сути это тоже самое, что водить обычный грузовик, но внутри салона автомобиля есть блок стрельбы похожий на коробку с кнопками. Почему вы о нем ничего не сказали?
BM-21 is a beautiful machine. Not even fair to compare it to HIMARS. it’s really cool to see how the Ukrainians are using the Himars and BM-21 together with great success, to prevent interception of the more precious HIMARS payload.
The OLD BM-21 Grad has a range of 20km. But the improved new version of this system under the name TORNADO G. It has a range of over 40km, more than double the BM-21. And it has new opto-electronics, inertial/GPS and Glonas navigation. And everything is done from the truck, there is no need to mechanically calculate the parameters... Although this possibility is kept just in case. So the system remained simple, only twice as deadly and still cheap to operate and maintain.
Why it is still in service? Because it's still lethal. What a question... Same as the ton's of vids like "Why WW2 weapons still in service in the ukranian war" WHY NOT? THEY ARE STILL KILLING!
The bm 21 grad was created to bring chaos within 100 kilometers (or miles I don't remember) and it's missiles are cheap which is perfect for mass production
I heard a claim that grad missiles costed (in 2005) costed 6000 to 60000 roubles, which was like 200 to 2000 dollars. So, the price in your video seems like the upper boundary
I watched a video about a foreign fighter who was describing his experience being shell by artillery , mortars, rockets on the frontlines and he said u mightnt get excited when a 82mm mortar lands near u, its like a big grenade going off, no massive explosion mainly a dust cloud but when the Russian 122s land near u everything shake up around and inside of you . This specific rocket has a little over 3x the explosive payload as a 125mm high explosive tank shell that both sides are using to destroy buildings and entrencements . Id rather take my chances with a modern mortar shell dropping near me then this landing anywhere near me lol
Why? You are increasing the cost of ammunition for what? I think you are imagining it as if it fires it’s missiles and they go hunting for enemy targets. Too expensive and kind of pointless when I can carpet shell entire area.
This system is very simple, it is easy to repair, one salvo has a good demoralizing and destructive effect. In addition, its use is very cheap. This is exactly what military equipment should be
0:46 dont know were from you get prices from, but as i know in soviet forces all BM21 car cost less than 2k$, and rockets for it costs near 150mm artilery shells, it was mass in produse and lots of them was maded in USSR for free
HIMARS doesn't use PrSM because PrSM technology not in service yet. Additionally, PrSM missile will not enter service until 2023, and the upgraded seeker is expected to be part of a major program improvement planned for 2025.
не только на базе урала 375д, но и на базе урала 375. вес боевой части 27 кг ( могу ошибаться). наводчик один а не два . он же глядя в "панораму пг 1м" корректирует направляющие пакеты. есть по-мимо ручного и механический привод пакетов. стрельба осуществляется либо с кабины ( что не часто) но и с выносной катушки из укрытия, длина стандартного кабеля по-моему 60 метров.
These weapons are being used effectively against fortified positions on both sides an Against civilian areas in eastern Ukraine by the UA. Drones are used for targeting 99% of the time.
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Cost of the Rocket.
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These rockets are actually $350-450 a pop for all non-guided ones.
Well, russian military doesn't pay the export pricetag for anything. My numbers are essentially 2004 (Nothing to see here, officer, 15 years has passed) price tags adjusted for inflation (In Russia, you have global multipliers rolled down by the feds. Feds never pay more than infation adjustment rates, that's why inflation rate is one piece of data you can actually trust on, every factory depending on the government lives and dies by these multipliers).
These don't adjust for new tech though. Laser cutting should have sliced the prices significantly (Bulk of the price for HEFI rockets is for all the thin rods being cut into ready-made fragments. I know that new rods are cut with lasers, but I no longer involved in the system to give you the exact numbers on the internal math).
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I heard a claim that grad missiles costed (in 2005) costed 6000 to 60000 roubles, which was like 200 to 2000 dollars. So, the price in your video seems like the upper boundary
No way these missiles are 400 $ in 2022 prices. Just the material (70 kg) will cost about that much.
@@nehorlavazapalka russian militarry data are in a very grey area-we are also confused .
@@nehorlavazapalka That's where you are wrong though. We russians don't buy stuff on the market unless it's needed. And nobody get to sell on external markets unless he meets agreed upon internal demands. The access to external markets is something you work really, really hard for if you were unlucky to think of starting your bussiness in the wrong prospect. Growing and selling flowers is nice and dandy. Growing beets? Uh-oh, you better not hit that truckload volume unless you want to be regulated to hell and back since we produce sugar from beets and sugar is considered to be strategic resourse. Get ready to sell good chunk to the government at government prices too.
Missile consist of 20.5kg of long artillery powder (It's about 3 dollars per kilo), 20 dollar fuse, roughly 6.4kg of explosives (Varies by type, but we talk about RDX levels of affordability, about 16 dollars per kilo. Rest is the work, the rods and the pipe. Rod is about 4 kg worth at $0.96/kg and pipe is roughly $0.75/kg
All in all, for materials, you get $216 dollars. Rest is the work, assembly and very low profit margin
Explosives - 102 dollars
Powder - 61,5 dollars
Fuse - 20 dollars (Produced by dedicated gov facility, price is non-negotiable)
Rods - 3,84 dollars
Pipe - 28,5 dollars.
That's one thing people seem to fail to understand - when it comes to anything even remotely vital to the gov, market prices stop working because market stops working. USSR may have fallen, but we are essentially in state capitalism now. It gets to the point where we pay about $150/month for all our utilities and $5 dollar for our internet plan because basic needs coverage is NOT exactly considered non-government matter.
@@Aitelly ak 47 in roket bm21
I saw a Russian documentary on RUclips. 5hey were talking about 120 roubles in soviets times
Keep in mind 2000 is an export/sale price, meaning it costs the manufacturing country far less for domestic acquisition
Domestic cost of Russian missiles are 4-12 times cheaper than export price depending on model.
So Russia basically can spam millions of grad missiles with affordable cost
@@mrobocop1666 Given that a rocket weighs probably about 100kg they are cheaper than pork meat.
Literally happening in real life
They fire a barrage of BM21 then the irondome intercept all this dumb missiles
@@boopitywoop7981 , you are watching too many movies. GET REAL with the irondome LMAO
Russia also view Russian soldiers as a cheaply built missile; very disposable.
Very effective way to delete a wide margin of area.........
Yes it was meant to create chaos and destruction
"Delete" 😂😂🤣😭🖕
@@zero-su3un keeps your head down, so they can attack
@@zero-su3un “small rockets , wouldn’t do a lot of damage” 😂😂 it is 122MM rocket it is as big as a howitzer , and btw 155MM howitzer have mostly 5/7 Kg of TNT this rocket have 25 Kg of TNT and there is 40 rocket 🤣🤣
i was a kid during Yugoslav wars and my hometown was often shelled with MLRS. Yugoslav army was using 8x4 128mm HE, 32 missile system.
It's the scariest thing you can hear on the reciving end. The sound of firing comes faster then the missiles and then you can just count and hope it wont hit your house. Has enough explosive to destroy a brick house and two of my close neighbours lost their houses from it. Really scary shit...
Sorry to hear that.
War is Horrendous and the collateral damage is not great at all
My hometown suffers this every night for 5 months now, russians are shelling us with this thing and it is scary. Those bastards shelled us yesterday exactly on the new year as a sort of messed up joke, they hit the number of homes in our neighborhood, one of the shells hit residential building right in front of my windows, explosions were so lound that my family and I believed that this is it, our end, luckily no one was hurt, not even wounded just homes and apartments damaged. But everybody in our town is terrified, a lot of people here were killed or maimed by russian BM-21s for these past months.
@@Artes451 sounds like the situation in Donbass in the last 8 years
The problem is when u don't ear it coming... Pretty sure your neighborhood didn't ear the whiste/screaming noise of grads coming onto them
@@bastikolaski8111 8 years of BM 21 work in Donbas vs 3 months of BM 21 work in Mariupol
The only thing worse than a BM-21 is more than 1 of them working together.
And a few drones to spot the enemy and guide the rockets closer to their intended target.
Said no one on the receiving end of a strike
Or a Tos-1
@@Iamabot4708 4 or 5 of these can level a city block with relative ease
The OLD BM-21 Grad has a range of 20km. But the improved new version of this system under the name TORNADO G. It has a range of over 40km, more than double the BM-21. And it has new opto-electronics, inertial/GPS and Glonas navigation. And everything is done from the truck, there is no need to mechanically calculate the parameters... Although this possibility is kept just in case. So the system remained simple, only twice as deadly and still cheap to operate and maintain.
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Grads falling over our heads was very often in Beirut in the 80s. I survived many, the sound it makes when passing over is scary, and you can hear each explosion approaching closer and closer to your basic shelter (a kitchen or a ground floor of a building)
who fired ?
@@Aitelly mainly Syrian army who occupied a big part of Lebanon back then, my "clan" where the resistance against that occupation.
@@aeolus75 Glad to know some one like you who had faced War first hand.
I only know about War as my Gradfather Fought with the British Army in World War 2.
He told me he was afraid at first but when he was under fire,survival Instinsts kicks in.
@AiTelly and for all civilisations, currently living the tyranny of an occupation, we repeat Sir Winston Churchill words "we shall never surrender"
PS: we used to call Grads "Orgues De Staline" in French 😉
@@aeolus75 orgues of Stalin usually call Katusha mlrs for her sound.
BM 21 is designed to destroy enemy concentration points. It was constructed at a time when real wars were being fought. Larger armies.
agreed!
Fun fact:
In every Russian/Soviet Tank and Motor Rifle (mechanised infantry) Division there is an artillery regiment, which contains a rocket artillery battalion with 18 BM-21 Grad launchers, 3 batteries with 6 launchers each. Some Motor Rifle brigades also have a Grad battalion.
Russian solider here
Grad is produced still by now, but new versions are called "Tornado-G". They have crucial upgrades which make this system more capable: new system of calculation of target (computer instead of a "dude with ballistic calculator", hence crew now is 2 men instead of 3), new chassis, faster timing of preparation for fire and leaving after it, and new missiles, three types. First - with larger range (up to 40 km), second - precision guided (by GLONASS as a Russian GPS, basically GMLRS but smaller), and third with cluster anti-tank munitions (small cumulative granades)
Glonass only gives schools and hospital locations.
@@kiraxxxxxxxxx which apparently are the favourite places for the enemy to hide
@@lumberjackagies5158 ruSSia shouldn't invade a sovereign country, so the blame is to put to those nazis.
@@kiraxxxxxxxxx nazi germany was a sovereign country as well 😜😜. Since when is sovereignty an excuse
@@kiraxxxxxxxxx cry more, I'm here fighting and everything you can do is whine in comments
Got the pleasure to travel in an old camperized 6x6 soviet surplus Ural... They are simply unstoppable, desert, mud, snow, ice... Even whit a basically an house on his back we managed to go in some nasty zones... Beautiful machine
@@karolgolacik4943 You ever drived in Ural,no i dont think so
This system was first used in 1969 during the Sino-Soviet Border Conflict.
He demonstrated his effectiveness by eradicating any Chinese presence from Zhenbao Island.
Остров Даманский.
Прикурили тогда знатно,у меня дядя там был,выжгли вообще всё.
После обстрела с этого старичка минометный обстрел кажется детской забавой.
Himars is for striking an ammo or even a sam site meaning it has accurate yet very limited fire. While this bad boy has not so good accuracy but covers huge swathes of land and if used in pairs or even in a group of 3 or 4 this can clear neighborhoods in urban combat.
These are not vehicles of the same category. This is a vehicle with 122 mm. While Himars is 262 mm. Also, many versions of the Grad have guided ammunition.
@@ares8866 You are definitely correct but some say that this is trash in comparison to HIMARS. Each is special in its role.
@@googleplex1589 Those who say that have no idea what they are talking about.
They don't even know the difference between the systems. I would say it's the other way around though. The economy of BM 21 is far greater than Himars.
@@ares8866 Yes that is correct. But Himars is also perfect.
@@googleplex1589 the high cost and limited Salvo of the himars has been resulting in mist of its missiles being intercepted, unless there is no short range air defense or the target isn't cost effective to protect. With the grad, smerch and other systems of their group, guided or unguided, they have enough projectiles to overwhelm almost any air defense. Like, which AA system has 40 missiles on tap? When there's multiple units too, and whats the cost of stopping all that? There are very few systems with cheap enough projectiles to even consider defending against them
Great video, but the value of a 122 mm highly explosive Grad missile is $650, not $2000.
The himar is a 70km sniper rifle, the grad is a 3 tone machine gun.
Where the Russians are actively blocking GPS, Himars is useless. And many more Himars missiles were shot down by Russian air defense. Ukraine first shoots a hurricane, then Himars. This is the only tactic that works.
@@andrejaga3003 no, no they aren't
1) GPS jamming doesn't work because the missile has internal guidance
2) there is no successful example of a s-400 intercepting a m31, plenty to the contrary with the kherson bridge.
3) the grad storm to overload counter battery fire radars computers, so that the himar doesn't give away its position.
Simply put the himar system saw the Russian artillery greatly weakened and saw kherson retaken.
@@terrynewsome6698 Ukraine struck multiple ammo reserves with the HIMARS in Kherson and if you couple that with the fact that it's hard as hell to get a supply chain going in Kherson from the russian's POV it's understandable why they gave up Kherson and chose to preserve their manpower and did a total withdrawal.
@@zenon1261 exactly why the himar won kherson. Armies need food, ammo, and fuel to fight, and himar denied Russians all of that.
@@terrynewsome6698 The Russian Department of Defense reports are blocking, but if you find them, they regularly report how many Himars missiles the air defenses have destroyed. 6 missiles are easy to intercept, but they are very expensive. Therefore, the Ukrainians fire Typhoon missiles to distract the air defense, and then Himars. The Russians left Kherson because the Ukrainians shelled the dam every day. It survived because it was built by the Soviets with a large margin of safety. But if the Nazis had succeeded in destroying it, a lot of land would have been flooded in 2 hours, thousands of people would have died. Now Himars are actively used to shell Donetsk, but the Western media are silent about this.
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Please next make a video about the Russian mortar system 2B9 "Vaselyok"
I think bm -21 world best mlrs system 😊😊
Greetings from India .........we had used these Grads 21 during Kargil war 20 years back ....the punch of these missiles obliterated the montain top ,the enemy on it and their bunkers into oblivion ....awesome Russian equipment .....
Lies.
Pakistan has similar systems with indigenous rockets and stabilizers .
And secondly you could not take kargil back until UNO ordered akistan to pull out its army from kargil.
Same happened in 1948-49 n 1965 wars. You guys ran to UN and ran away to Russia(Tashkent) in 65 in order to beg to stop the war.
I Iove your videos. But I would like chime in with my personal opinion on why this system is still in use and so effective. I know you mentioned the cost of the rocket and damage it can output compared to that cost. In addition to that, and I think is the "hero" part of the system, is the truck itself. These trucks have 3 plus points:
1. Cost: the truck itself is so damn cheap compared to armed options in term of production, operation, and maintenance.
2. Mobility: these trucks can literally go anywhere.
3. Durability: not only these trucks can go anywhy, but the can endure the journey.
Great video as always.
Awesome video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for your comments.
Means a lot to a small channel like ours.
@@Aitelly I’m not that much bigger so us small channels have to work together
This channel deserve Billions of subscribers.. look at the amazing work they do
Thanks for the kind words 👍
Got one of these directly in my house in april. Quarter of house is vanished, but it's still standing. Tho the surrounding houses are grounded in 1km radius
In 1998 Ethiopian and Eritrean border war happen, every time the Ethiopians invaded with their large soldiers, the Eritreans used this and artillery to stop the invasion and it worked, in the end, the Ethiopians lost over 123,000 soldiers and Eritreans lost 19,000 soldiers.
Our country has a lot of those things! It is a great help that they fought side by side with us during the Cambodia-Thailand conflict over Preah Vihear Temple. and now seeing this, it sure did bring back memories.
I have had requested this.Thank you!
We listen to all your request.
But 3D animation and Rendering takes a lot of time to Produce
I understand and the final results are very good!
The car shown in the video is already an upgraded version, it differs from the old Grad version, which has a different caliber and other characteristics
Thanks
Glad I just discovered this channel, new sub here! Please can you make a video on the Tornado-S missile launcher and compare with the HIMARS? I hear both systems are very comparable.
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HIMARS is somewhat similar to tornado.( depending on a munition/rocket that you use ).
actually HIMARS is not just artillery...but rather a cross over between artillery and tactical balistic missile system.
so artillery part of HIMARS is similar to torado and smerch....but tactical balistic missile munition for HIMARS is more comparable to ISKANDER
@@mal.3855 it makes no sense to compare HIMARS with BM_21. these were the first simplified MLRS after which they produced heavier and more accurate systems, Tornado-S and Tornado-G. 'Hurricane', 'Smerch' and 'Grad'. The Iskander, for example, has two long-range missiles and is comparable to the HIMARS with two missiles. in general, MLRS installations were invented in the first 1940 years by Soviet engineers to fight the German Nazis.
@@mal.3855 Russians also have guided Smerch now as well. So should be comparable. They have slightly longer range as well so will be safer.
@@mal.3855 would you call Wikipedia "pro Russian"? The Wikipedia-quoted specs of the Tornado-S actually supercede HIMARS in range and warhead size. And GLONASS is just as good as GPS in precision of coordinate determination.
You just got yourself a new subscriber i am looking forward to seeing you cover the Pantsir and the Lancet
I LOVE this concise and to the point format!!!
Thank you for an amazing content! Very informative and a brlliant quality as always.
Ruskie
Great work as always!
Glad you like it 👍
Loving your content. Came to your channel with the Arjun Tank video and loving even this. Keep it up
Thanks for coming
Just one thing. Missile means the rocket has some Form of guidance system. Rockets are unguided. Calling an unguided Rocket a missile is like calling the Nokia 3310 an android phone.
the latest variant of the BM21 is tornado G, I think it has more range and option of guided rockets
AI is awesome. Nice quality editing AiTelly. Keep up with good work.
I've been a fan of this channel since I saw the panzer 3 video. Glad I found this channel it was great
Glad you are with us from the start
Thanks for the new year gift 😀 Happy New Year AiTELLY
Most welcome
even though it was made in an old year, the BM-21 Grad rocket launcher machine is the main choice for countries that want multiple rocket launchers,
this machine has succeeded in becoming an icon and has its own share, recorded users from most of the countries of Eastern Europe and the Middle East to almost countries on the continent of Africa and most of the countries in South Asia choose BM-21 Grad, and there are several countries in South America that also use it,
BM stands for boyevaya mashina, and the nickname grad means "hail",
even though it's old but has become an icon, although old but still muscular and deadly
Thanks to AiTelly for making this very informative video
Merci.... Barvo...AiTelly 👌😉👍👍
Не старый,а опытный
@@Putinsky_ORC can you written on english, please ??
@@Putinsky_ORC besides, I also no longer subscribe or liked to this channel, well the reason is because it is too in favor of the western block, even though outside the western block there are also many interesting things to review, such as from Israel and France but until now it has not been made at all, even though this is an educational channel, not a westernized propaganda channel,
but well cause you contacting me i try to response you, but i'm sorry I didnt understand your language, that's why meybe you can written on english
@@sejauhtimurdaribarat7085 i dont speak english
@@sejauhtimurdaribarat7085 you don't have push "translate to english"?
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Thanks we will always remain Humble to the Audience for helping us reach this goal in 5 moths.
There´s a slight error concerning BM21 construction.
In 01:04 both elevation and traverse are adjusted with same hand crank. First you just have to choose which one you are performing with "knob" on the right end of hand crank axel.
Still, video is great! Thanks!
Thanks for the Feedback
"Oh no they are shooting at us, get under the table"
These rockets are actually $350-450 a pop for all non-guided ones. So yeah, full salvo of these bad boys is cheaper than the gear of one supatacticool safari hunter it vaporizes.
Great info. but i guess the considering the export version it might touch the $1000 mark
@@Aitelly Well, russian military doesn't pay the export pricetag for anything. My numbers are essentially 2004 (Nothing to see here, officer, 15 years has passed) price tags adjusted for inflation (In Russia, you have global multipliers rolled down by the feds. Feds never pay more than infation adjustment rates, that's why inflation rate is one piece of data you can actually trust on, every factory depending on the government lives and dies by these multipliers).
These don't adjust for new tech though. Laser cutting should have sliced the prices significantly (Bulk of the price for HEFI rockets is for all the thin rods being cut into ready-made fragments. I know that new rods are cut with lasers, but I no longer involved in the system to give you the exact numbers on the internal math).
@@burningsinner1132 Very valuable Comment will keepthis in our Comment Correction Section
Top quality video
Thanks 🙏👍
by the way, it is the first stage (booster) of these missiles that appears in 99% of the photos on the Internet, with the inscription "a Russian missile hit the house / yard and fortunately did not explode"
spot on
From the photos I've seen it's usually SAM boosters, like BUK or S-300
@@dimbasz With Patriots missiles it will be really hard to put blame on Russia next time missile hits the house. You can't miss Patriot missile with S-300 or BUK.
Can I ask how the rockets launch from the tubes more details please? 😢
The first time the Soviets used it against the Chinese was in 69 on border conflicts! I don’t know what the Chinese felt at that moment
Seeing footage of MLRS as a kid scared me just the sounds and fire coming at launch knowing there would be no safe place to hide
BM-21 it looks like upgraded BM-13 so we could say we are using WW2 vehicle to this day 😂😂
Tube artillery is just a stovepipe. It's the ordnance that matters.
Thats basically every weapon..
Finally someone who not spread propaganda
Yes 👍
Я когда служил в армии был водителем bm 21 на базе грузовика Ural. По-сути это тоже самое, что водить обычный грузовик, но внутри салона автомобиля есть блок стрельбы похожий на коробку с кнопками. Почему вы о нем ничего не сказали?
Happy new year brother 💗 I love your video,
Thanks for the Support 🙏
BM-21 is a beautiful machine.
Not even fair to compare it to HIMARS.
it’s really cool to see how the Ukrainians are using the Himars and BM-21 together with great success, to prevent interception of the more precious HIMARS payload.
The OLD BM-21 Grad has a range of 20km. But the improved new version of this system under the name TORNADO G. It has a range of over 40km, more than double the BM-21. And it has new opto-electronics, inertial/GPS and Glonas navigation. And everything is done from the truck, there is no need to mechanically calculate the parameters... Although this possibility is kept just in case. So the system remained simple, only twice as deadly and still cheap to operate and maintain.
Why it is still in service? Because it's still lethal. What a question... Same as the ton's of vids like "Why WW2 weapons still in service in the ukranian war" WHY NOT? THEY ARE STILL KILLING!
Simple answer it's fun to launch and the sound are awesome .
I wished for my info about the guidance of the rocket......I mean the stabilization how it achieved by fins and rifling/rotation
The bm 21 grad was created to bring chaos within 100 kilometers (or miles I don't remember) and it's missiles are cheap which is perfect for mass production
Amazing video 😍
Thanks 🙏👍
Glad you like it
Could you make video about how artillery aims? If we talk about the older ones? No modern computers
Let me research and let you know
@@Aitelly that would be really nice, i cant find any guides or anything with aim
I heard a claim that grad missiles costed (in 2005) costed 6000 to 60000 roubles, which was like 200 to 2000 dollars. So, the price in your video seems like the upper boundary
Your right ! but we are considering inflation and the export cost also.
Honestly we do not the price but i believe it is Cheap
Amazing details
Thanks
Amazing video as always
Thanks 🙏👍
I watched a video about a foreign fighter who was describing his experience being shell by artillery , mortars, rockets on the frontlines and he said u mightnt get excited when a 82mm mortar lands near u, its like a big grenade going off, no massive explosion mainly a dust cloud but when the Russian 122s land near u everything shake up around and inside of you . This specific rocket has a little over 3x the explosive payload as a 125mm high explosive tank shell that both sides are using to destroy buildings and entrencements . Id rather take my chances with a modern mortar shell dropping near me then this landing anywhere near me lol
What if the BM-21 was adapted to launch the Switch Blade 300 and 600 in the tubes?
Why? You are increasing the cost of ammunition for what? I think you are imagining it as if it fires it’s missiles and they go hunting for enemy targets. Too expensive and kind of pointless when I can carpet shell entire area.
This is BM-21 and it can change the face of the war as this is the best machine to cause havoc in the enemy teams.
Can I recommened the TOS-1 Burantino and it's Thermobaric ammunition and warhead
Can you make video of how warship works? (Example model: Sejong the great class destroyer)
Grad in Russian language means "Hail". It is elemental force that is crashing on the heads of enemies. This what it means
Can you please do the Su 75 "Checkmate"
Yes it is in our pipeline.
Give us some time and we will get it done 👍
This system is very simple, it is easy to repair, one salvo has a good demoralizing and destructive effect. In addition, its use is very cheap. This is exactly what military equipment should be
Please, make video on how NLAW missile work ?
Happy New Year . Please, upload videos on submarines.
Submarine ok will do.
Give us time
3D animation and Rendering takes time.
Like saying goes! Why change when it works😂
Super great animation 👍😁😊
Thanks 🙏
0:46 dont know were from you get prices from, but as i know in soviet forces all BM21 car cost less than 2k$, and rockets for it costs near 150mm artilery shells, it was mass in produse and lots of them was maded in USSR for free
It's the approximate price when it was exported to other nations.
@@Aitelly wow, not know that it costs so much on export. In post soviet countries its more like post cold war trash.
@@DavidSerg On export they want to earn money and taxes,
how can i get that?
What you do with that? ☠️
Do a video about T-90M if possible
Edit: if possible about modern Russian tanks like T-72 and T-80 and and T-14 Armata
Yes Coming soon
How exactly fire control deliver signal to inside missile guide?
HIMARS doesn't use PrSM because PrSM technology not in service yet. Additionally, PrSM missile will not enter service until 2023, and the upgraded seeker is expected to be part of a major program improvement planned for 2025.
Agreed !
Beautiful video thanks and keep it up.
Glad you like it
F-22 next plsss
Yes we got many requests for that.
Will do a research on it.
great animation🔥🔥🔥
For low budget armies is the perfect option
не только на базе урала 375д, но и на базе урала 375. вес боевой части 27 кг ( могу ошибаться). наводчик один а не два . он же глядя в "панораму пг 1м" корректирует направляющие пакеты. есть по-мимо ручного и механический привод пакетов. стрельба осуществляется либо с кабины ( что не часто) но и с выносной катушки из укрытия, длина стандартного кабеля по-моему 60 метров.
Happy New Year, and thank you for the amazing content ! ✨️
Happy new year!! to you too
:Enemy is coming from the north
:Roger, deleting north
Nice video 100k soon
Thanks for the moral support 🙂
In some russian documentary I saw, that they said , the rocket was low costed at 120 roubles soviets time 1970-80 's with low cost methods
Max level katyusha lmao
rockets, not missiles since it is unguided
You miss one the sound they make is pog
🙂🤔 Yes we did miss it.
Bro, have u done any article on Katyusha rockets?
Not yet - we have veryknowledge of this Rocket
These weapons are being used effectively against fortified positions on both sides an Against civilian areas in eastern Ukraine by the UA.
Drones are used for targeting 99% of the time.
Ah, Yes, The vehicle in the "moskau moskau" meme.
🙃
I would love to see one on the TOS-1
This is fun thing to use with 20x of them
If only they had named it Chad...