The NBA Wants the Dynasty to Die
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- The NBA, with the second apron in last year's collective bargaining agreement (CBA), is taking on a new path - more so than limiting the Warriors and the Clippers. There's a secret plan that they're going through with... that, if executed properly, will change the league forever.
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Parity is good for the hardcore fans, outside of them, dynasties have always been far more profitable and better for the league overall, personally I'm loving not having any real idea who's gonna be in the finals every year, but look at the 70s, when was the last time you heard people ever talk about Willis Reed's Knicks or Wes Unseld's Bullets/Wizards, the 70s is literally the least talked about decade in NBA history because of parity.
this next decade will effectively be the same. NBA basically recreated the 70s era of basketball again and it will once again need to change things up so the new age bird, magic and jordan can help save the league again.
This man spittin
@@rishijagtap8593 when are we getting the drug allegations next
well fucc the casuals.... parity >>>>
Facts
The reason why is because Adam Silver wants the NBA to have the same appeal as the NFL where your team can go from mid to great in a year and great teams don’t survive for mire than 6 yrs
That makes sense for the NFL but the NFL is a differently so the fact that he wanted to be like that is stupid. In the NFL you only have one game in the playoffs to lose. So that one game matters more. But for the NBA, the best team will win usually because it’s the best 4 of 7. The way they are structured is completely different. So if he wants NFL money he needs to restructure the league. I think he needs to focus on making the NBA the NBA and not the NFL. 💯
"Great teams don't survive for more than 6 years"
The Andy Reid Chiefs, who have been contending since Mahomes was in high school: 😏
The problem is the NFL is super popular even in those periods with no dynasty. Basketball is a sport defined by its dynasties
@@cyrillesu that’s why dynasties in football are so special
Patriots were competitive for 20 years
one thing i think people are forgetting is that the nba is now in business with sports betting apps. meaning with more parity, sports betting will now be a lot tougher when you don't know which team is gonna win it all. even on a game to game basis, one team destroying the league like 2016 warriors, 2013 heat, 08 celtics, 01 lakers 96 bulls etc will likely be a thing of the past. which means vegas and the apps will be losing a lot less on payouts. especially when you got a team like the 2017 and 2018 warriors where you already kinda knew the outcome of the finals before the playoffs began, people would be able to bet with confidence. now you don't know if boston will even return to the finals. even if there is an "upset" , the betting public will be so divided on who wins that payouts from the apps will consistently get lower and betting big will be more risky.
this a very interesting theory makes a ton of sense
The league is sacrificing viewership for this though. Sports betters and fantasy leagues owners don’t boost ratings. And while deals with draft kings are big money, they aren’t as big money as broadcasting deals. That’s where the league makes the lump sum of its money. As the viewership declines, I doubt sports betting with make up the losses. So it seems that the NBA just as many corporations, has chosen money in hand today over money in the bank tomorrow. And that’s not a sustainable course of action.
Great point
🤣 no, that's why sports betting have odds and spreads it doesn't matter if it's a dynasty or not, sports betting makes money due to odds, spreads and only way to make good money is to actually consistently win 3-4 parlays.
This is interesting! never really considered the relationship between the two but I think you’re on to something to a degree
Not a unique opinion, but I think dynasties are important to sport. Parity gets boring, because there's no villain for everyone to hate on and no awe inspiring team that everyone talks about. The NBA needs dynasties more than any other league, since its so star driven. Every superstar has been connected to a dynasty: Kobe, MJ, Steph, Magic, Larry, hell, even Lebron OWNED the East. It was fun seeing what East team could take him down, even if none did.
NBA heads love parity, but it's bad for business and general cultural exposure. I get that the NBA wants to be the NFL, but the nature of the sport makes that so unlikely, and it's not like the NFL LACKS dynasties (hell, the Chiefs' success is a huge driver of interest)
Only casuals hate parody but real hard core nba fans who love basketball love not knowing who’s gonna win every year
Facts first person I seen say what I been thinking without a villian like golden State with kd and a underdog like LeBron and cavs or rockets with harden and Chris paul without a hero or villain there s no story and way less entertainment
@@nahova3167casual fans fund the sport
You’re not watching if you think that’s true
Totally agree. That's why the 70s is the most forgettable decade in NBA history.
The timing of this stupid shit stucks so much as a nuggets fan. We have a top 20 player in the history of the sport in his prime. Two years of his prime were wasted because of injuries to our 2nd and 3rd options, along with our bench being decimated. Then we finally break through, just to lose our 6th man. Then, because of the cba, not only do we lose a starter, our bench is filled with five guys who are unplayable, one guy coming off an ACL injury, a guy who should be a 3 or 4 who's gonna have to play the 5, a 3rd year player, a 2nd year player who didnt get much time as a rookie cuz of an mcl injury, and soon, the biggest wildcard in the sport in Russel Westbrook
this season will definetely be harder for us but I still have hope, I just want jamal to be 100% in the playoffs man
@GIedison They need to stop getting complacent. They let their foot off the gas during the 2024 playoff run. They were playing with half-hearted energy until that game 2 massacre from the wolves woke them up. By then it was too late.
i mean they let go of bruce brown and jeff green, and didn’t address their lack of a bench. and calvin booth said they were good with watson and braun, they weren’t going to be a dynasty regardless of the cba
@@ThaTruth223I agree, and that's why I didn't really have much faith in the Nuggets when they fought the Wolves last playoffs.
No one cares about your team your "top 20 player" anyway.
Still find their gamble to remove dynasties a pretty confounding one, is it a strategy to create stronger core fanbases within contending organizations? I seriously don't know why they're suddenly going against a formula that has worked for so long. Not that the original dynasties era was perfect, but a little tinkering could've worked. This feels overkill.
Y’all complain about everything in the nba because yall hate basketball
@@KAye633 As an NBA junkie, I do admittedly love this era of extreme parity, but I'm just talking about it purely from a business standpoint. And even then, there was a twisted joy in rooting for the underdog to beat the big bad wolf. All those memories of me being tormented by the Warriors, I do admittedly wish we'd have an established villain team like that sometime down the line, but idk the new CBA stuff makes that impossible practically.
Pretty sure the villain you are looking for can be found in Boston with all the special advantages they have
@@rangersking6699 Low-key maybe, I was contemplating that, but OKC is catching up with them with these new additions and I don't think they'll sustain a lineup this good for super long considering how much luxury tax they're gonna pay. Like, something has to give, right? If not, they're gonna be the new villains and I'm down asf for it.
I guess these rules are made to prevent another golden state, but golden state was only able to work because the new CBA increased the salary cap by so much so the warriors could afford KD. The NBA is killing their product based on a miscalculation on their part.
I’ve watched the nba religiously since 2012. The second apron is the worst decision I’ve seen them make and it’s not even close.
lol
The 2nd apron is to stop the Top players from eating up the budget of their team.
Bro if your a Detroit fan or a magic fan this is amazing, as a heat fan yeah no
@@Blood_Video_company yeah the magic fans are jumping for joy after signing KCP lmao
@@Dryltd Except that's not what it does. In fact, it actually exacerbates that issue because now, one, maybe two players can take up over 60% of a team's cap space, leaving nothing for the mid level players.
OKC is built to get past the new cba there is a reason they stocked up on so many draft picks lmao
Nah they too will be ruined by the new cba rules in like 4 years tbh.
@@jamenmuxworthy3889 No they wont. They'll eventually line around their big 3 of J will, shai and chet, then they'll trade guys like cason wallace, Isiah joe down the line to get back even more draft picks and cheap young players and keep cycling out. There's a reason they keep stashing picks
@jamenmuxworthy3889 also their timeline will keep SGA, Dub and Chet affordable until at least dub and chet's third contract due to their max % they can sign in their first max. So that's probably at least 5 years maybe more depending on motivation. All that changes if SGA decides he doesn't wanna be there anymore though.
They didn’t stocked up because of the new cba cuz at the point that made the pg the new cba didn’t exist until 4 years later
@@davyunwashington3613new CBA might have been why Presti didn’t get rid of any picks this offseason though
Dame didn’t choose Milwaukee. They chose him. He wanted to go to the Heat
Dame screwed himself not leaving before signing his last contract in Portland and waiting too long, and saying he only really wants to go to Miami. That did him zero favors
@@richborn6700fr, gave portland no more leverage than what little they already had letting miami know they have 0 comp to get dame.
I completely forgot about this somehow 🤦🏿♂️ yea that’s a mistake on my part
@@user-yi4dm9if6mMiami didn't really have an attractive enough trade package to get Dame.
@@urbaindelva7869 which is why he wasn’t moved there, but on the blazers end they really had miami to talk to because nobody would trade for dame if he wouldnt stay long term
as an okc fan it sucks to see how perfectly this rebuild has come together, while knowing that for the entire rest of our superstar’s prime, this cba is going to get in the way. i’m hoping we can continue to draft well, but it just doesn’t feel right that the team couldn’t possibly be in a better situation and yet things still feel so uncertain
Whats the deal with the cba?
trust me dude, i am a okc fan too and presti was prepared for this, we pay shai chet and jdub and keep the cycle moving with the rest of our players with trading them for draft picks and other players and let shai chet and jdub thrive
As a Nugget fan, you hit the nail right on the head.. we built our team under a different cap and now with this we are on the verge of not being the dynasty it was envisioned as just two seasons ago
Here’s the thing your loss is like Indy, and Orlando’s gain … without the second apron making it harder for contenders to keep their guys it means non contenders can sign some nice guys who going to make the roster better
Y’all ain’t close to a dynasty after you lose green and brown. Nuggets been downgrading since their first chip while teams getting better. Only way to change all that is doing what Jalen Brunson did. Are superstars ready to take a $100m cut to build a dynasty? If not it’s gonna be a long time till we see one again since the Celtics gonna downgrade soon with tatum’s 300m+ contract coming up
Maybe the Nuggets front office will have to work harder and be innovative to keep getting new talent and be competitive, LOL. What did the superstars/dynasty/non-parity era do for the Nuggets in the first place, dude? You've been trash for 60 years, while the Lakers, San Antonio, and Warriors took all the chips in the West. What about the Suns? What about the Wolves? What about the Kings? The system was trash. I'm glad it is over.
@@pedrofior2562 ah yes because comparing a small market team ability to draw free agents to 2 major markets in LA and San Fran as well the spurs being from a non tax income state is fair.. Denver built the right way and now have to pay the price. Wolves are next and the thunder also. The nba screwed teams for doing it the right way instead of buying a ring..
Calvin booth will definitely be fired after the 2025 season. He let kcp walk and he's also trying to prioritize building the young guys the nuggets don't need that right now we should be signing vets and underrated role players that's how we won the 2023 finals 🥲
NBa ratings were at their best during dynasty years. Ratings have been down since we've seen more parity. So i don't understand the logic behind adam silver
Because the big players where in the finals.
Casuals that just whant to watch their player and will tune out of the finals when he isnt there.
Gambling
Ratings are down pretty much everywhere, but it's much better to be alive now in the age of choice and not have to wait all week for the 1 good show to air. The NFL ratings are still high cos they have so few games.
That's a chicken/egg argument
Dynasty give the team idenity and good team building so ass if very player gonna be changing teams bc the team can’t afford them
When the league was diced up from the ABA and the NBA competing at the same time, and there was the most parity in basketball, the only memorable names are legends. No one remembers the chips. NBA needs to do something else.
everything new I learn about the 2nd apron repeat offender penalties makes me go “this is wayyy too much”
Feel the same way as a Suns fan myself, even though Mat Ishbia's willing to go headstrong up against it, for better or for worse.
@@crazyluigi6664Mat Ishbia actually screwed your franchise if you can’t get under the 2nd apron
As a thunder fan, Sam presti is a SMART ASS MAN. He has so many draft picks and will trade great players for even more draft picks and he will be able to continue this cycle of doing so and bringing players around Shai Jdub and Chet for years to come
Dynasties make sports better in my opinion. The mission to take down a Goliath is what makes it great
this new CBA doesnt want superteams being formed especially by big market teams. this CBA goes after supermax players. basically, making them choose 25-35% of your team's cap or take a pay cut so your team has the cap space to give you help. supermax players cant choose both anymore.
Players union took a huge L on the new CBA. And the nba has no idea what makes a good product. dynasties has always brought more ratings than non Dynasty. This ain't the NFL.
Forget ratings . I’m a hardcore basketball junkie. I want parity and good basketball.
@@Racoons4ChangeNBA is a business bud once they find out that parity does not get them the money they would try really hard for the creation of new dynasties. plus y'all hardcore fans are the super minority of NBA fans. Majority just wants a spectacle to watch, they want the drama, the flair, the villain, and the story.
Majority of fans are casuals and most of the NBAs money comes from them. Money talks
Bro the nfl has dont have parity same teams competing for the chip . Patrick mahomes has won the super bowl two out of three years and 3 out of the last 5 years its been either mahmoes or / joe burrow in the last 5 superbowls so thos idea that the nfl has parity is crazy . From the 80’s to now u always have dominate teams from cowboys, 49ers, and patriots. Dynasties and greatness makes sports great not lackluster team ball
@@joecaa3722 parity is great for sports betting. So I get my wish in the worst way. Casual fans love domination and no parity. I understand that. I want good basketball, casuals want narratives. That’s fine. I just want to watch good basketball no matter what. I enjoyed watching the KD warriors, even though it wasn’t fair, it was beautiful basketball.
8:48 Ive veen dying at this edit for the last 10 minutes man. You just got yourself a new fan 💀💀
I think back to back champions/finals appearances are really good for the league because it makes finals matchups that much more interesting and get higher ratings, because there’s more familiarity.
Go Celtics
What about when it was 4 straight years of Warriors vs Cleveland 😂
@@tacome60 Yea that was slight overkill, But they probably wouldnt have the finals without KD
@@tacome60 everyone watched those finals, and they were all great except 2018
This channel is gonna blow tf up once the NBA season starts, your videos rock dude!
I do agree that the nba does not want there to be dynasties, however I do think that they want the league to still be player driven. They just want those players to be spread across every team so every fan base has “their guy”. Brunson in new york, ant in Minnesota, ja in Memphis. I think we will see this trend continue.
I like this idea - akin to qbs in the nfl
@@kipkame That would be nice and ideal. The question is will that actually work out like they want it to or will it just exacerbate problems later on down the line?
@@crazyluigi6664 With the cap space either the players will have to understand to not take all the money if they want to win or they will take it all and stay in bad time wasting their prime
@@paquinraino8180 Pretty much, yeah.
there should be like a salary cap thing where u can kinda legal pay someone off the books in a sense if you drafted them where like only 85% of their salary actually counts towards the salary cap but counts towards 100% if traded. it would probably lead to some insane tanking but also like dynasties. but thats what i would do
yeah because teams like okc and rockets who drafted a bunch of talent will most likely fall under the 2nd apron, which is pretty unfair
Meanwhile the Boston Celtics siad fuck that and paid everybody
Celtics are in like the perfect situation as they got the Chip and their 2 core stars are only 26 and 27 so barring any career ruining injury they still have 2-3 years of championship contention and 5-7 years of being relevant as well as the other contracts are built where it ends when their prime ends or the start of their inevitable decline (well except Jrue cuz we payin that man till he's 38) but Boston basically did is we got our chip and lets ride it out till the wheels fall off
@@YukkiRuiiiCeltics are smart and didn’t outwardly go out and get superstar they just drafted incredibly well. Which I have always said that’s the key for every team that’s has won a championship. Look at every competitive team you’ll see a common trend. Their superstars were drafted and their role players were signed.
@@donleonard4446they got incredibly lucky that the Nets FO made the incompetent move of giving up their draft picks for out of their prime KG and Paul Pierce. Both Tatum and Brown were taken with the Nets picks.
@@SimonLYWstill building through the draft which was my point.
@@donleonard4446 the Celtics had a very unique scenario. If you remember, they did go out and get superstars, they got Kyrie and Hayward, they didn’t work out. They were able to draft high at the same time because of the Nets fumble. The only other times I can really remember that happening are the Warriors getting a high pick because of injuries, the 76ers because of injuries and the Spurs to get Duncan, because of injuries.
Arguably the pieces that got the over the line also weren’t drafted. A couple drafted players were used in those trades through,
Lebron took 6 million less than he could have theoretically. Brunson left 131 million. Bit of a tier difference.
One of the most well made videos I’ve seen on the topic. In a sea of click bait casuals, it’s awesome to see high effort content like this. Subbed
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Welcome! Glad to have you back 🙏🏿
I think it’s funny how when there were dynasties the fans hated on them and when there weren’t really a dynasty fans hate on it too
Parity sucks. The NBA has always been about dynasties since the 60s.
*80's.
No real dynasties happened in the 1970's.
Instead of messing with "parity" just let stuff develop naturally. Last time I checked, GS was a popular market so this was all about hurting the warriors like Draymond said
Idk the Warriors decline felt like it was already happening. Their core was getting old. And the reason they’re panicking because the one young budding star they were developing got shipped out due to problems within the team. And they have been trying to rush the development of Kuminga because they realize other younger teams are lapping them.
@@donleonard4446 Exactly. It was already happening so the league stepping in was unnecessary
This had nothing to do with the Warriors… they were finished before this became a serious thing.
Historically golden state wasn't a greatly ran franchise for decades.The curry era has brought immense high value to them but they still hold no generational prestige to them like the lakers,knicks or celtics hold so if they start slipping once curry is gone idk if players look at them the same like they do with teams I mentioned before outside them being a california team
What you're missing is that everyone is in the same field. Its up to players to take pay cuts. Either you get your max or a chance to win titles. Winning titles can generate money outside of the league. Mj made more money through endorsements.
The fans cried for parity for years. It’s as much their fault as the league’s for making it harder for teams that draft and develop top talent to retain them for extended runs.
I love it honestly, for a few years the nba was being held hostage by superstars signing contracts and demanding trades months later that hurts teams and it gives guys to much power to just go to to where they want without playing out there deals
My Bucks will bring the dynasty back! 2025 and 2026. I was the first to say this come back to this comment
"angry clippers fan rants about not being able to build a collection of aging stars anymore" would be a great new title for this video!
In my own opinion, I think that the second apron is a good idea. However, it is made severely more limiting by these gigantic supermax contracts that are being handed out and seen as the norm. In hockey for example, unless you're like Connor McDavid, you're probably not making much more than 8-12m per year, even as a superstar. And that is simply a result of there being a hard cap I am sure. I don't think that there should be a hard cap, but I do think that there should be severe penalties for going over the salary cap.
Not a new opinion but I just wished that there would be exceptions for how grown talent. It supports the teams who actually draft well. Look at OKC. Sure they are good now but once everyone gets out of their rookie contracts, they are gonna be in trouble and that’s sucks, because most of their talent home grown (outside of sga cause hes from lac if Im not mistaken)
We all love parity. I love that everyone gets a fair chance but we need dynasty’s. Maybe not a team that always wins but a team to hate. Rick flair said it best “you need a good guy and a bad guy”. You always need a team to hate where people will watch you just to see you lose as much as others want you to win. I care about basketball and don’t want to see the league go downhill.
Bruh the only reason why y’all like dynasty’s is because if it’s your team then you win for like 5 years straight 😂
I mean, he's not lying.
Shout out for the production quality, you’re going places, G
Thank u 🙏🏿 just gonna keep going
As a fan of the Pistons, I love the second apron keeping some of these dynasties in check. The Warriors vs Cavs always making the finals was boring. The dynasty isn't terribly exciting and the second apron really forces you to draft well to remain competitive since the price of a star is so high
People keep complaining it was soooo amazing and had sooo much aura lmao
ron holland in goat conversation?
The issue is what happens when you have to pay all those well drafted players ? (Look at OKC)
@@curtainwave753 That's when you have to make the tough choices and ultimately become less competitive- thus preventing a dynasty from taking over the league
@@KAye633 Maybe early on, sure. By the time Kevin Durant came over, though, it got played out and stale beyond belief.
Mate great video but no one can deny that big market teams were eating up the big name players. LA alone had Lebron, AD, Kawai, Harden and PG all go there. None of them were drafted there. This doesn’t happen in smaller or even middle sized markets.
The point of the second apron is not to reward or punish teams for drafting well, it is solely to bring a greater degree of parity. Good or bad, taking your spurs example with Wemby and another player, well, if this second apron continues, it means they will have to decide between a top heavy team or a deep team. It simply means that there will be no more teams with big 3s and deep rosters. That is a necessary change for parity. That's the whole damn point of the new CBA; to make more competitive teams.
Yes and no. If a team drafts well they have no shot to keep all of their homegrown talent.
@@nickjohannessen9855 Yeah, that's the point. You force teams to let go of some of that talent to other teams. Just because talent is home grown doesn't mean it's good for the league. All anyone did during the 2000s and 2010s was complain about the Spurs and the Warriors, but the majority of their cores were made up of homegrown talent.
@@moomie1634 yes as a fan of other teams it sucked but business was booming for the NBA. It seems against their own best interest to be against that. That’s the part I don’t get. I understand parity etc but not sure how it benefits the nba. Seems like each year it’s a new low on ratings. Wasn’t happening when dynasties were happening
@@nickjohannessen9855 they're looking to change how the league is marketed. Look at the NFL. Absolute parity, with only a small handful of dynasties, and they're doing better than ever. The league wants to shift away from marketing players and more towards marketing the league, but they can't do that without parity
@@moomie1634 I think using the nfl as an example is silly when each decade has had a dynasty. Dynasties can lead to staleness and disinterest or drive fan interest. Will be interesting to see what happens
Great video! The CBA is entirely dedicated to saving owners' money at the expense of players
Thanks! And that’s what it’s been from the very start 🤷🏿♂️
You saying this but I grantee you we will be circling back here in about 8 months,talking about how the Celtics won back to back chips.Make sure y’all comment here when it happens.
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I view it like this : you’re watching your favorite tv show and your favorite character dies near the end of the season (the nuggets lose in the second round). And you kinda check out of the last few episodes because the rest of the character and plot development wasn’t good enough.
Dynasties build investment for fans of BASKETBALL. Not just their team. In the past few years, when your team loses there is less at steak. There is not a draw without a storyline. A rivalry. A arc. That can only be built over the course of years and years.
Great video man. RIP Nuggets KCP
I just want something in between warriors vs cavs 4 years in a row and 6 different finals winners in 6 years
Let be honest we want to see dynasty and super teams
If that's true, then why has there constant bitching about superteams over the last decade? I personally don't mind them, but why are people complaining about them if they wanna see them?
@@urbaindelva7869because they want their team to be that dynasty
@@nezer993exactly I literally just commented that too
I have nothing to actually say here...but vjust want you to get that Algorithm bump.
Great watch. Keep up the good work.
Also the reason why the NBA will never touch the NFL in popularity is because they market the players and the teams involved, even letting bad teams have nationally televised games. They actively encourage player fans, but mostly team fans.
Globally, the NBA is way bigger than the NFL.
@@OrlandoMagic23you say this but more people watch the nfl then the nba outside us doesn't matter as much as inside it
@@government1476Nah this is ignorant asf. I would like to say "you will be surprised with the amount of people that watch outside the US" but if you know your stuff you shouldn't be surprised by now. I bet you no one will know a single NFL player but will know the name Luka Doncic, or Kyrie Irving, or Anthony Davis. I'm not even talking about the big shots like Lebron, Curry, KD.
@@government1476im from croatia (thats in europe) and nba gets covered daily on the sports part of news(during the season), nfl maybe once a year after the superbowl
I think what people here are forgetting is that the nba are trying to sell more of there games to more platforms. This requires more games people want watching and to do this you need a more competitive league. People talk about how popular dynasties are but nobody cares about mid table teams when only 2 teams could realistically win the championship.
The NBA wants the dynasty to die unless it’s a Lakers, Warriors, or Bulls team.
This is a great video bro, well in detail. Im aware of the current cba rules but i did not know the draft pick at the bottom in 7 years, got a subscriber
Dynasties are fun but without them a larger number of teams will have the chance to win. That's just math. And that will invigorate those franchises and engage their fans. The league as a whole will profit from that.
Amazing video as always. I loved the way you explained what is the second apron and why it is such a greedy (and stupid) idea. lets hope this gets reversed or canceled some time sone because there is no way a Team can be formed and develop truely and sustainably in this cenario. I dont think this stops at the dynasty, but its actually a team killer, we will see trades and a lot of free agency testing that will make teams completely different from what they were 2 seasons ago. How can a team that builds on chemistry on the court and certain tactical ideas be actually competetive when these get thrown out the window because you cant afford to sustainably develop talent to fit those roles without putting your team's future in jeopardy?! It feels almost against the sport itself and anti-competitive, it levels the teams to a lower level. Yes, they are leveled but with a worse basketball product. No fun in a playoff game with 1 star in each team. I hope the NBA will see this and realise that the regular season wont really atract much more of an audience to compensate for the one they will lose when the playoffs come. (Just a reminder that the NBA draft is built exactly for the "parity" the NBA wants so much to achieve. The second apron is a lose-lose situation)
I think it's good. Watching the unpredictablity of the western conference games. Made for exciting basketball. Knowing that the competition is fierce made it great for the league
Certainly much better than the boring, predictable nature of the Eastern Conference, at least.
The issue is that there is parity, but we don’t see it in the finals. Naturally, we’ll see miami/dallas sneak in on good matchups but they only end up as fodder to the juggernaut that won the other conference because the nature of basketball is just the better team wins.
I think this is the most meaningful discourse we are having about the nba in the last 25 years. It’s kinda 50/50 though. The 2017 and 2018 finals sucked, we knew who was making the finals before both seasons even started. Also there are other reasons why the league suffers not just because of parity.
Excellent video and excellent points made though. This is a great discussion and us hardcore fans need to think about this more
I can’t help but think that the CBA is a way to retire older stars and reduce their power. So many stars demanding a trade and shifting so many organizations, and the stars being older, make it feel like the NBA is trying to give organizations more power over the players.
Paying an older star a max and then having them only be available 50 games (intentionally or not) is great for parity in the regular season, but not as a championship team.
The CBA is able to be renegotiated after 7 years, forcing players to play 65 games for award considerations and limiting player movement.
I think the NBA is trying to give the reigns to the younger guys
Dame didn’t choose Milwaukee over Miami if I remember correctly. Joe Cronin refused to do business with Riley after a certain point.
That being said, I really enjoy this video and critical look at the second apron. I wish there was a different way to achieve the spread of talent that didn’t come at the cost of established vets and role players that do the little things to push teams over the top.
Good. As a fan of a small market team it's legitimately the only way my team will ever have a chance of even sniffing an NBA final. Dynasties only benefit fans who live in California and New York.
Who's your small market team of interest?
Parity was cool when you had the Harden Rockets, Lob City Clippers, a young warriors squad, KD/Russ dynamic duo, the timeless wonder Spurs, and the Lebron Kyrie Cavs.
You had huge superstars at their peaks, with all time teams, all competing for the championship.
Now days you have half built teams catching fire randomly, shooting their way into the finals.
There are no interesting storylines anymore, no peaking competing during their championship window.
It’s all due to player movement
Parity only works when teams are grassroots and people have a connection to them not like franchises which are completely commercial based. Parity would work in an NCAA setting but now all players and teams doesn’t wanna sacrifice to win and players take super max contracts on trash teams and achieve nothing while wasting their career. I don’t think Cavs fans are gonna be memorable of Donovan Mitchell in 5 years verses Lebron James despite the fact Mitchell is gonna make way more money than Lebron did.
This is a very well done video!
Thank you. I've been saying for a while that people don't actually want parity, they want a lebron and steph rivalry or a bulls dynasty until the end of time
I didn’t know Pascal Siakam does youtube
This is really good content actually. Probably better than 99% of all other NBA content on RUclips.
Love the video, but one criticism of your argument against the “players go to better markets” point - yea players like Ja & Ant are in smaller locations but they were drafted there. Staying & the. signing for an extension nobody else can pay you is different from actively seeking those locations out in FA. Dame went to Milwaukee to ring chase and San Antonio is a top 10 largest city in the US (with a dynastic history.) I feel like those counterpoints don’t disprove the argument
And I say that as a Memphis DIEHARD
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I appreciate that, thank you!
i think dynasties will make its way back, i feel like everything is a cycle & history repeats itself, maybe it will look a lil different but it will repeat itself
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The NBA really watched the NHL "parity" itself to near extinction and said "I want that!"
I get what you’re saying about the dynasties, but the thing about the past decade plus has been the super teams. It killed the NBA. So they caused one problem (lack of natural dynasties) to fix another (super teams)
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The"small market" thing isn't solely about ownerships pockets.... It also includes the city economy, fan bases size/spending etc. You call it an issue but we've seen teams go from mid to at least a playoff darkhorses quickly bc of the changes/amendments to the CBA. And it has helped small market teams Indy, CLE, ORL. Soooo
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I hear you about dynasties, but I actually feel like the NBA might have the right idea.
I think a large reason why the NFL is so popular is because any given year your favorite player or team could be good. Football is an INCREDIBLY team focused game, every regular season game is important, and there's always that chance the odds will stack in your team's favor and you'll end up winning the Super Bowl - or that your well oiled machine from last year will fall apart.
That setup results in so many interesting and wild outcomes. Green Bay? Small market team somehow blessed with multiple instances of generational quarterback talent. Reid and Mahomes? A small market team in KC now thrust into the national limelight. Cowboys? Underachieving for decades and yet has the most die-hard fans you've ever seen. Belichick and Brady? A dynasty that was kept afloat because the people involved were willing to take massive paycuts for continued success. Eagles? Somehow win their first Super Bowl in franchise history with a backup quarterback.
That variability is why I think the NFL has such an enormous fanbase. And I can see why the NBA would want a piece of that action, instead of relying on dynasties clashing in the playoffs at the expense of the rest of the season.
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I remember when everyone hated dynasties when it was Goldenstate vs Lebron 😂.
I'm pretty convinced this will only hurt the NBA in the long run. We'll see what happens
2nd apron hurting small market teams who draft well is going under the radar. Like you pointed out so clearly, the Thunder gotta win a title in the next couple of seasons or they're going to be screwed once SGA, Chet, and JWill need to be paid. Same goes for any other team that's in the midst of a rebuild who is stacked with picks.
I don't know how the exact mechanics would've worked but there should've been a provision for teams to re-sign players that they drafted/acquired during the draft and developed at a lower cap/tax hit. That would still lead to hard decisions but give some wiggle room for homegrown cores to stay together. It would also stop built super teams from dominating since traded players and free agents would count fully against the cap/tax. That would benefit the Nuggets, Celtics, Warriors, and Wolves, who all have/had mostly homegrown cores while it would hurt the intended teams like the Clippers, Lakers, and Suns who all mostly traded for and signed people.
Even though I love multiple teams doing well or reaching the finals, I’m okay with single team dynasties or even 3-peat matchups. But if we get anything like the Warriors and Cavs again, I’ll lose my mind. Goated era fs, especially with social media taking off, but I also hated it badly.
These new apron rules look quite suspicious now we hear about the potential league expansion. Good way to attract new owners
As a casual i like superteams
11:58-12:08 I get what you’re saying but these players were drafted/traded. And even then “the media” wants to get those players to a bigger market. A lot of people were upset with the Suns vs Bucks finals because they were both smaller market teams compared to previous years. The problem with small markets is trying to attract big names during free agency. Dame wanted to go to Miami originally but he ended up in Milwaukee and was bored allegedly (there were other factors of course). Small market teams can’t compete when it comes to living in LA compared to Detroit.
Damn bro, excellent video. You had me captivated!
Makes no sense the NBA will do this to themselves. No other sport has this and NBA is making tons of money. Why do they punish teams that draft their own?
Waiting on them Knicks to lose a draft pick since they either bought Brunson a small European country or a shell company somewhere. Him not getting what he was due is a MAJOR red flag and I’m sure is being watched by the league office.
The problem is that the NBA doesn’t truly understand how bad illegal streaming is right now. The streaming numbers have been on the decline due to #1, people leaving cable, and #2, the rise of illegal streaming. They don’t realize that people still watch games. Which is why they’re trying to punish owners for “parity” when in reality parity is still attracting viewers.
Dynasties can’t die but all dynasties will fall eventually
I will definitly say that parity is great for the league. As a Wizards fan it's often felt hopeless and they barely have any support at all. Not sure this is the right solution though, but it's nice if more teams have a chance. I will say the late 2010s got painfully boring when it was Cavs vs Warriors every single year and after the Warriors got KD it felt there wasn't even any point in watching the NBA because we all knew who was going to win. I feel like the league is much better when you don't have that true dominant team and there's more suspense about who's going to win it all. I didn't watch the NBA in the 90s but I'd imagine I probably would've gotten pretty tired of seeing the Bulls win every year, probably rooted for the Jazz during the finals just to have a different champion.
How do you have front office experience? What team where you apart of?
I know all this will backfire on the NBA. I’m just interested to see how. Since it’s already hard to remember which star plays for which team, and teams like the Hornets will just continue to be awful. Will this make people less interested in watching? Will this make more players go international in order to get more money? This latest Fiba tournament has shown that other countries are just as competitive as the US(NBA). The next few years are gonna bring interesting.
The Old Stars are what you are pointing at to grow the league.
I like the sound of this, this forces GMs to be good at their job
Hot take as someone that makes less then 1m/year if you're willing to take so much money that your team doesn't have the liquidity to build around you you dont deserve to win
Clippers lost money from building their stadium, not their payroll