I can't get over how pretty the graphics are! I especially love the particle effects and sparkly snow/sand. Really looking forward to playing this! Thanks for answering my question! 23:25
I'm still thinking (and hoping) that the stories will converge into a central (non-character specific) chapter after completing all of the characters' (likely 4 chapter) stories.
The biggest complaint I've seen about Octopath Traveler is that it lacks a cliche "You have to save the world from an unspeakable evil!" narrative, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing. We've all heard that story before, and it's become contrived and boring, especially in the hands of a game developer -- I have never played a game yet that has a story that rises above the level of average. A game that features a group of adventures simply working together to achieve their own goals strikes me as novel and refreshing.
again that's just another video game trope. there is that kit the traveler you find outside of the starter characters town, maybe hes part of the overarching story. But i would rather have 8 unique stories rather than one generic one
Chris Martin Having the stories unify at the end does not mean it has a “we all save the world from a greater evil” plot. Get that idea out of your head. Yes, the 8 different story thing is fine, but it would be cooler to have them all intertwine with each other and the order you choose to go in have an impact on the story. Literally can have nothing to do with saving the world.
I don't think there's a clear message, or there's a disconnect that Acquire/Square is sending vs how consumers are perceiving the game. First, the game is called Octopath Traveler, you should be able to deduce that there's 8 paths to be traveled. I think if they wanted to make sure we knew that, rather than making a more conventional name for a JRPG. But then again, we got the producer...director? I forget, saying it's a spiritual successor to FFVI, and besides graphics, it doesn't seem to be the case. I think the best way to go into this game is that you're experiencing 8, 10 hour RPGs in one. The lack of interaction is disappointing, but it was kind of expected out of a game this open. I'm just looking forward to seeing how each character's story pans out. I don't want this game to be Final Fantasy VI nor do I need it to be. I want it to be familiar, but at the same time something I haven't experienced and I think they've done a good job of accomplishing that.
When he spoke about FFVI, he was talking about the combat. BD was inspired by FFV and this game by FFVI. He was misquoted and people don't read past the title.
+PAulo I know that he's referring to the combat...but the combat is based off of Bravely default not FFV or FFVI. And believe me, I've played my share of those games. I understand the Jobs are there, but FF1 had jobs...Nothing of what I played reminds me of FFVI besides the visuals.
Ljink One of the devs was interviewed and said that There IS an intertwining story. It's just that all these reviewers have played around 30 hours and haven't reached that point yet.
+Viorel I wouldn't be opposed to it. Having each character have their own few chapters and then having a cataclysmic event that brings them all together would be interesting, but having that happen after 30+ hours of little to no interactivity between them would be kind of jarring. I'm sure there's a full story to be told, it's how the story will be told that some are worried about.
Ljink i know what you mean, it would be nice to see more of that. Trying to find the page with that interview but it's eluding me atm, but i just saw it yesterday in two websites.
@gamexplain regarding subjobs you actually get them by finding shrines near their respective character, not maxing out all their abilities. And the differences between for example Tressa and Theiron’s path actions is that one is noble and one is rogue. Tressa’s is noble so your reputation cant go down while Theiron’s is rogue which means it can suffer.
The subclasses are NOT unlocked by learning all skills of the main class. They are unlocked by praying to the corresponding god at a shrine. For example, the god of the clerics is Aelfric. So, in order to unlock the cleric subclass you need to pray at a shrine of Aelfric. Sealticge for dancers, Alephan for scholars, etc.
The impression I’ve been getting is that it’s a good game; just not what people expected it to be. The demo personally pleased me, so I’ll be picking this up.
Allegryan That just makes more sense, generally speaking. I don’t know if I like the idea of a collection of short stories for a jrpg, personally. Remains to be seen though. It’s a unique concept, but not what I had envisioned when the game was announced. I thought there would be 8 long stories that played into each other.
Collin McRae there has been leaks proving that the actual advertising is indeed right Each traveler has four chapters of their own and the game ends an that's it. But apparently their are rumors of the game telling u to continue playing after you've done the story for something bigger
Michael Blake I agree that they didn’t really misrepresent anything, but I had a different vision in my head, and I don’t really find what they have done to be all that appealing to me, personally. Other than the gorgeous visuals, nothing really seems that outstanding or innovative. I could be wrong though, and I may love the game. I hope that’s the case. - *SPOILER WARNING* spoiler ahead from leaked review. It’s not 100% confirmed information, but some people may want to be surprised. - I read a leaked Japanese review that said all there is are the 4 chapters for each character, and they never converge. I don’t know how reliable this reviewer was, but it seemed authentic. I hope not though.
I think when I buy this game I am going to pick a character and finish their story before going on to the next. Yeah I know Derrick mentioned you have to do a little grinding but I enjoy doing that. If I am constantly switching between peoples chapter 1s and 2s I will lose track of what was going on. Cant wait for this game though
You could do like me, I will pick a party of 4 (plus the thief to get into some chest when I find them) and beat the game with them. Then start a new game to beat it with the other 4. :D no need to switch out party members then.
There is no item that I’ve seen but Cyrus has a Scholar skill called analyze that costs one sp and reveals one weakness and the current health of an enemy
Thanks for the answer on party interaction! I also saw another bit in Game Informer about a small interaction involving Tressa and Alfyn, hopefully in later chapters there's a little bit more!
Great video! So glad more people are covering Octopath. This game is so awesome. So excited for it’s release. Q and A is a good idea for a game like this. I might try that in a future video, thanks for the inspiration lol!
There‘s one thing I don’t get: I have the choice of with which character I want to start. But let‘s say I’ve started with Therion; I’ll level up on the way to the next character (let’s say Alfyn). When I play the story of Alfyn, but with Therion in the team, am I not overpowered for Alfyn‘s story foes? Did the creators really build in so many variables for these many cases? I doubt it, but I don’t get it. I‘m simply amazed of the fact that I can’t really comprehend how they solved this. Thanks in advance mates.
A cinnamon roll is A character that is very kind and sweet but faces more hardship and suffering than they truly deserve. Comes from the usage of an article headline from 'The Onion' titled 'Beautiful Cinnamon Roll Too Good For This World, Too Pure.' to describe a person or character that is very good but faces a lot of pain in their life.
So the character you pick to start is always locked in your party, but wouldn't' the character whose path your currently doing also have to be included? Like if you started with Tressa but you're doing Ophilia's chapter 2, wouldn't both need to be included (Tressa permanently, Ophilia just temporarily)?
10:53 Cyrus has the ability "Evasive Maneuvers" which you can equip to lower the rate of random encounters. So yes, it is possible to lower it. You can equip and unequip whenever you want to.
It’s also probably the most gripping of the stories. I will be the first one to say that I love Tressa and Therion and basically everyone, but out of everyone- Primrose’s story was the only one which really made me thirst for more and made me really FEEL for her. Like with Tressa, I know it’s gon be a cute lil romp that has her slowly grow into the world’s best merchant. Primrose’s? She could very well die or fail to take vengeance, or find any number of dark twists to her story- and even if there isn’t a morbid twist, I can still be emotionally invested in her wellbeing, and the most obvious conclusion to the story: Primrose hunting down and killing the three crows, is still incredibly satisfying. I’m just HYPE all round.
Sapphire Seer yeah her story feels the most compelling in terms of that revenge aspect, the others still very much have reasonable reasons to travel like H’aanit wanting to rescue her master (sounds weird when she doesn’t say it) and Ophelia helping her family but Primrose’s really makes you want to help her and make those men pay so you’re inclined to love her from the beginning, so great
How does the "You surprised your foe" or "Your foe surprised you" thing work? Is this chosen at random? How exactly does this impact the battles? (Please answer this in your review Thursday!)
I think I only had it once and... I honestly didn't notice anything different...? I'd assume it might be working like in Earthbound and Paper Mario, where the supriser gets a free first hit, but those games had on-screen encounters sooo, I guess it's random here?
If you surprise your foe, your characters get a free round of hits. If your foes surprise you, then your foes get a free round of hits. As for what causes it to happen...? Pretty sure it's random.
I think running affects it. If you notice, whenever you run, the minimap turns red, which I'm assuming increases the chance of random encounters and possibly this surprise mechanic.
With the developers’ constant mention of Final Fantasy VI regarding this game do you think there’s any chance they’re using this engine and art style as a possible test run and if the game is well received and sells well that we might FINALLY get either an FFVI remake or sequel in this style? I feel like a lot of people, if not most, regard FFVI as the best in the series and yet SquareEnix has never done anything with it but sub par mobile ports. I personally think a fully voiced FFVI remake or even sequel in this style would be A-MA-ZING. I think we’ve already gotten enough Final Fantasy 7 content for two lifetimes, it’d be nice to see FFVI get some love.
Thanks for clarifying on the save files, Derrick. It was a small tidbit, but I appreciate the info so I don’t need to delete a file to start a new game.
There are four chapters with each character so, that's all around 32 chapters, and when you count in the fact that every chapter is around 1 hour, that becomes 32 hours with just the story, but there's also tons of dungeons, loot chests, and side quests, so that could easily turn into a good 100 hours
My theory (I’ve thought this for months now): If you’ve noticed, all of the characters are along the edges of the world, with the noticeable omission being the center. And each of these characters is setting out on a personal journey around the world, but while we know where they start, we don’t know where they’ll end up. See where I’m going with this? I’ve always believed that each character’s story is isolated from the others, but everything will climax at the end where they all meet up in the center of the world. And I believe that all of their issues will be connected too, like there’s one overarching villain or group responsible for all of the character’s conflicts and that’s when their stories intertwine. I believe that there will be two endings also (ala Bravely Default), as they specifically mentioned once that you can complete all 8 character’s stories in one play through. So my thoughts are that if you complete all of their stories before going to the middle, then you will get the “true” ending. What do you think?
Raymond Mendoza uhhhhhh no. I strongly disagree that it looks shallow, and in fact that is wrong because I’ve played it. I can understand some people being confused right now by this surprisingly poor Q&A and letting that confusion get them upset (I guess), but let’s not overreact here; Octopath Traveler is a game crafted with immense passion, and the quality is there. What we don’t know is how/if the characters interact.
JacksonLOVESNintendo yeah i completely understand that part i was just saying it looks shallow when it comes to an overarching story that connects everything. sorry if i used the wrong word lmaooo i’m trying to say that the story seems a bit disconnected. i’m still interested in buying the game it’s just a bit disappointing from a story standpoint.
Honestly, a tip that I can recommend if you want to start off, I'd suggest getting Apothecary second job first, then whenever you get a new character with a lot of JP (Around 630) then you can give them the Hale & Hearty skill early and get a major buff for anyone who is much lower level
There are encounter rate modifiers, but you'll have to find and equip the items, and beating the true final boss gets you an item that stops random encounters entirely, for leisurely travel
The key to grinding is Primrose, its odd that no videos mention this, but you can basically powerlevel using Primrose's bewildering dance. I once got lucky with a triboost bewildering dance and leveled up my entire party 3-5 times from a single battle because i rolled double 2x xp while fighting enemies of a higher level than me.
You can get the job before you get a class by going to the jobs shrine, the shrines are in the chapter two locations that are connected to the city that you recruit the character. As someone who has no sense of direction I would suggest looking up the locations of the shrines
secondary jobs won't be obtained by getting every skill in your first job. you have to find a shrine for each secondary job, where you'll get the ability to "equip" one of your party members with this secondary job. only one character can have a specific secondary job at a time.
It's neat how the 8 different stories tie into one another to make one great story that maked the big bad evil girl that summons an evil god that you defeat.
Jobs aren't based off of how much you fill one job's skills in, it's about finding where those jobs are located and can be done anytime if you're willing to adventure into higher level areas for a bit
The only JRPG I played before this was Pokémon (which is basically its own genre) and I wanted to get into more traditional games of the franchise and this caught my eye. I’m only 2 hours in and I’m already enjoying the game and it’s mechanics.
It took 12 hours for you to meet all of the characters? I got to 4 of them in the demo ( didn't finish the fourth's intro, though). Do they progressively get harder as you go?
Yeah, I mean I was booking it between towns and not doing any side quests, but I wasn't skipping any dialogue or cut scenes, so I figured even at a more leisurely pace it would only take about 8 hours or so to get all 8 characters. Skipping cut-scenes would make it go super fast, since the dungeons are not very long
If you're speedrunning, of course you'll get them rather quickly. In the full game you presumably won't have any paths blocked off, and you won't have a time limit, so there's more inclination to just leisurely explore off the beaten path and take your time.
Okay, I know that probably nobody will see this, and noone cares, but when the Bravely Default music started, I started to cry. These Games were so beautiful
I really interested in the lore of the game regarding the 13 gods, but I’m actually relieved that there doesn’t seem to be a huge converging ending where the characters have to travel to an evil realm and fight the 13th evil god. I don’t know if that’s the case, but I’ll be happy if story is less crazy then most RPGs.
There is a final boss, sorta sealing the story for all characters where you use all eight in two epic battles Edit: Cyrus and Tressa are my favourites, the character righting was really amazing, almost surreal
Maybe theyll have a converging ending where the last crow man is at the final kindling area, and he turns out to be the man olberic is searching for and has stolen the dragonstones and the tome, and kills haanits mentor, that pirate dude and alfyns hero XD
I1m starting two separate saves for this game, each with 4 members only. That way i can enjoy all of them without having to switch characters every time. The first is Therion (main), Alfyn, Haanit and Primrose. and the other is with Ophillia main.
I'm playing the prologue demo, and I chose the teacher first. I'm not even farther than 15 min in the demo but im fighting the other teacher who stole the book (super very early in the demo) I keep dying I don't know how I can win when I have nothing not even hp consumables. What do I do?
Well first you can go to the weapon shop to buy weapons and armor. Armor will be great for defense. You will find it by the sword sign. There is also a shop for hp consumables and sp. That will be indicated by a small bag or sack. You can also grind to level up. You can also find healing items in chests. That's all I got so yeah I hope you can beat it.
Decently buy equipment upgrades with your starting gold. Use his path action to find hidden items in towns. Level grind to 5 and the boss should be easy. Also make sure to time breaks to stop bosses charge up attacks.
You know your characters can talk to each other. As press + . Said person if you have will interact to each other in their own way. As you can get items from chatting to them to.
I'm curious, if you have to the chosen character in your party at all times, and characters don't gain experience outside of the party, does the chosen character usually end up vastly overleveled compared to the other members of the party?
spaceperson741 I wouldn’t say vastly, because as the game goes on, it requires more experience to level up. They will be a few levels ahead, but nothing too drastic.
John Ingemi at least for Guide, you can use the same NPC a few times before they leave. I think you can go back and recruit the same NPC, but I can't remember if I actually ever tried it in the demo.
paul slade that too I do wonder how she will heal her dad if possible I did Cyrus next (I did do Primrose in demo1) and I'm liking him cause he's not the typical mage. Can't think of when I played a teacher in a game
Ideal parties would be 1 of each path action type of character, prim and Ophilia essentially have the same interaction skill, as to Olberic and H'aanit, as do Alfyn and Cyrus, however I'd say that Tressa and Therion have the most different path actions, both of their skills are good for your finances, but Therion let's you unlock locked chests, which I adore, and you can pickpocket on a percentage based chance, whereas Tressa passively earns money and instead of stealing, you can buy stuff from people, and on discounts, but some people charge higher for market price on some items, and some people are unwilling to sell certain items from their inventories
I like Primrose the most just because she is the first character I played in the first demo, so when I get the full game, I think I will start her first. The question is which party member should I get next to help Primrose after her first chapter? I think Olberic may be good to go next since Primrose isn't really strong in physical attack or defense and having manpower party member or tank like character is probably best for her.
Back in the 2000s. Suikoden has 108 heroes, and have a cutscene according to the party you go with... and harvestmoon has a ton of cut scrne... the lack of communication among traveler in this game could be added in some non-canon cut scene... like when visiting cold area, maybe alfyn ask the other if they’re fine, or prims feels the temperature etc etc etc... or maybe, the developer has in mind that the chapter is semi open world, and by adding cut scene could lead to the ambiguity and inconsistencies story development...
19:34 "constantly scrolling through menus" um welcome to JRPG's if thats not your thing, try a different genre, cuz thats a staple feature. What were you expecting, some sort of free moving ARPG style unlock 20 hours into the game? Octopath makes its game mechanic very clear early on and its ok if its not your style
there are 4 poeple to a party right? could you do one full play through with 4 characters then another with the other 4 characters? or it just faster better to play all 8 in one go?
In the demo I went to the tavern when I had five characters and tried to swap out the party leader, and it said, "You cannot swap out your party leader at this time" ...I'm sure you're pretty far in the game, but when it says "at this time" I get the impression that you can eventually swap out the party leader.
Allegryan thank you for your reply. Im specifically talking about the party leader (your first character choice when starting up the game). Derrick keeps saying that you can “never” swap out your first character, but i dont think thats true. Ive heard that you can swap him/her out when you’ve completed all of his/her chapters 🤔
I'm interested in this game. But, I downloaded the demo, played Haanit and just could not beat her first boss. Is there a trick to the combat system?? Do you have recommendations to beat the bosses?
I would say that Octopath traveler isn't a good place to start for people unfamiliar with turn based RPGs, because this game will give you an unrealistic expectation of how amazing RPGs are, because this game is amazing)
Lexie D yes ruclips.net/video/BM1uboiGqX4/видео.html here is the video and it's more so towards the middle, he interviews a developer and he said so. But he couldn't say who because he wanted to stay spoiler free
John Ingemi Yep, although if you attack and knock an NPC out, you can't use another action on them until they "wake up", which seems to be after some travelling.
Does he mention whether or not after the initial chapters you HAVE to keep the character relating to every chapter in your party when you play it, or can you put together one party and tackle each chapter without having to switch out one of your main party members?
Taylor Hurdle it seems like you need to keep the character whom which story you’re working on, otherwise you’re free to change them up unless it’s the one you started out with. So unless Olberic was not your choice and you are not or don’t want to work on his story then you’re free to never use him again
If you dont like turn based jrpg, grinding and repetition, then most often than not you wont like this game. I'm a fan though so I will get it first day of release! So excited♡
I'm hearing conflicting things. Another video said that all you need to do is complete another character's chapter 1 before you gained access to their job for a secondary.
bbarrett726 you actually don't need a character to get their job, you just need to find their shrine, I've so far grabbed Ophelia and Cyrus's jobs without playing their first chapter
Is it going to mess me up if I only play with 4 of the characters for my first playthrough and then do a second with the remaining 4? I don't like doing rotating teams and I'd prefer to just have one team of 4 even if I have to play the game again
Are the stories different between characters for the whole game? like after the prologue does the game just end up exactly the same for each character?
I can't get over how pretty the graphics are! I especially love the particle effects and sparkly snow/sand. Really looking forward to playing this!
Thanks for answering my question! 23:25
Running speed increases the encounter rate, according to the dev update video they did a while back
Michael Thompson it's actually pretty obvious when you see that the mini map turns red when you run.
The Four Star Gamer oh right, didn't know that, I hadn't even seen it 😅
I had a feeling in the demo since it went red. But wasn't sure.
question is: does it go up by per time or per distance? Because if it's per time, it might end up being the same per distance...
Pyrrha Nikos not sure, kinda both I guess, I understand what you're saying, but I think Devs said the frequency/encounter increases the faster you go
1:22 Seriously? It's a 60 to 100 hour long RPG! Do you really have to ask for replayability?
D-Man82 exactly.. but there is probably gonna be a new game + like most jrpgs.
@@gavinbarker1295 nope lol.
@@doomy_doomy2225 lol
the lack of alfyn recognition is killing me
Ryan his axe skills are pretty useful.
Boring character tbh
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I'm still thinking (and hoping) that the stories will converge into a central (non-character specific) chapter after completing all of the characters' (likely 4 chapter) stories.
My hopes are the same.
The biggest complaint I've seen about Octopath Traveler is that it lacks a cliche "You have to save the world from an unspeakable evil!" narrative, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing. We've all heard that story before, and it's become contrived and boring, especially in the hands of a game developer -- I have never played a game yet that has a story that rises above the level of average. A game that features a group of adventures simply working together to achieve their own goals strikes me as novel and refreshing.
I don't think it needs a world ending threat, but I do think it could feel anti-climactic if there isn't a final unified boss.
again that's just another video game trope. there is that kit the traveler you find outside of the starter characters town, maybe hes part of the overarching story. But i would rather have 8 unique stories rather than one generic one
Chris Martin
Having the stories unify at the end does not mean it has a “we all save the world from a greater evil” plot. Get that idea out of your head. Yes, the 8 different story thing is fine, but it would be cooler to have them all intertwine with each other and the order you choose to go in have an impact on the story. Literally can have nothing to do with saving the world.
I don't think there's a clear message, or there's a disconnect that Acquire/Square is sending vs how consumers are perceiving the game. First, the game is called Octopath Traveler, you should be able to deduce that there's 8 paths to be traveled. I think if they wanted to make sure we knew that, rather than making a more conventional name for a JRPG.
But then again, we got the producer...director? I forget, saying it's a spiritual successor to FFVI, and besides graphics, it doesn't seem to be the case.
I think the best way to go into this game is that you're experiencing 8, 10 hour RPGs in one. The lack of interaction is disappointing, but it was kind of expected out of a game this open. I'm just looking forward to seeing how each character's story pans out. I don't want this game to be Final Fantasy VI nor do I need it to be. I want it to be familiar, but at the same time something I haven't experienced and I think they've done a good job of accomplishing that.
When he spoke about FFVI, he was talking about the combat. BD was inspired by FFV and this game by FFVI. He was misquoted and people don't read past the title.
+PAulo I know that he's referring to the combat...but the combat is based off of Bravely default not FFV or FFVI. And believe me, I've played my share of those games. I understand the Jobs are there, but FF1 had jobs...Nothing of what I played reminds me of FFVI besides the visuals.
Ljink One of the devs was interviewed and said that There IS an intertwining story. It's just that all these reviewers have played around 30 hours and haven't reached that point yet.
+Viorel I wouldn't be opposed to it. Having each character have their own few chapters and then having a cataclysmic event that brings them all together would be interesting, but having that happen after 30+ hours of little to no interactivity between them would be kind of jarring. I'm sure there's a full story to be told, it's how the story will be told that some are worried about.
Ljink i know what you mean, it would be nice to see more of that. Trying to find the page with that interview but it's eluding me atm, but i just saw it yesterday in two websites.
Loved the one y’all did for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 before that released... it got me even more hype. Thanks for these!
@gamexplain regarding subjobs you actually get them by finding shrines near their respective character, not maxing out all their abilities. And the differences between for example Tressa and Theiron’s path actions is that one is noble and one is rogue. Tressa’s is noble so your reputation cant go down while Theiron’s is rogue which means it can suffer.
Therion is best BOY
Elijah Eugene “Can’t we settle this like gentlemen.”
DbzFlipz it depends
I played as Therion too.
Yeah i love picklocking
agree
The subclasses are NOT unlocked by learning all skills of the main class. They are unlocked by praying to the corresponding god at a shrine. For example, the god of the clerics is Aelfric. So, in order to unlock the cleric subclass you need to pray at a shrine of Aelfric. Sealticge for dancers, Alephan for scholars, etc.
The impression I’ve been getting is that it’s a good game; just not what people expected it to be. The demo personally pleased me, so I’ll be picking this up.
Oreo the Gamer Dog
I just don’t get why people were expecting an overarching narrative right off the bat when the game was never advertised like that
Allegryan That just makes more sense, generally speaking. I don’t know if I like the idea of a collection of short stories for a jrpg, personally. Remains to be seen though. It’s a unique concept, but not what I had envisioned when the game was announced. I thought there would be 8 long stories that played into each other.
I mean, there are eight stories, fairly lengthy ones at that. Whether they converge is a matter of speculation.
Collin McRae there has been leaks proving that the actual advertising is indeed right
Each traveler has four chapters of their own and the game ends an that's it.
But apparently their are rumors of the game telling u to continue playing after you've done the story for something bigger
Michael Blake
I agree that they didn’t really misrepresent anything, but I had a different vision in my head, and I don’t really find what they have done to be all that appealing to me, personally. Other than the gorgeous visuals, nothing really seems that outstanding or innovative. I could be wrong though, and I may love the game. I hope that’s the case.
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*SPOILER WARNING* spoiler ahead from leaked review. It’s not 100% confirmed information, but some people may want to be surprised.
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I read a leaked Japanese review that said all there is are the 4 chapters for each character, and they never converge. I don’t know how reliable this reviewer was, but it seemed authentic. I hope not though.
I think when I buy this game I am going to pick a character and finish their story before going on to the next. Yeah I know Derrick mentioned you have to do a little grinding but I enjoy doing that. If I am constantly switching between peoples chapter 1s and 2s I will lose track of what was going on. Cant wait for this game though
You could do like me, I will pick a party of 4 (plus the thief to get into some chest when I find them) and beat the game with them. Then start a new game to beat it with the other 4. :D no need to switch out party members then.
killsw1tch408
Nothing wrong with that! I feel like this game was designed to let players do what they want and choose how they play it.
is there any item or passive that allows you to see the enemies health bars?
The Keef Crew yo mighty keef, cool to see you're also interested in this game
There is no item that I’ve seen but Cyrus has a Scholar skill called analyze that costs one sp and reveals one weakness and the current health of an enemy
The enemy names change colors based on health: yellow is under 50%, red is under 25%
Raydeep Kainth He can reveal 1 weakness automatically to every fight to every different foe in fight.
You can use the scholars analyze, but you don’t permanently see their health bar, just for a bit.
Fun fact: If you put all the main characters name together it spells Octopath
Thanks for the answer on party interaction! I also saw another bit in Game Informer about a small interaction involving Tressa and Alfyn, hopefully in later chapters there's a little bit more!
not got a secondary job yet? sounds like you still have a long way to go, judging by how they claimed that was a big feature of the game
kingjonny you actually get them from optional shrines not by maxing out the abilities.
This game,Smash and JoJo's this year. It's a good year
Like jojo season 5 or a jojo game?
Season 5
Hollow knight!!! Such a great game.
Troy Eason jojo? Part 5 anime?
That moment when you're not getting any of these games. Oops :D
Great video! So glad more people are covering Octopath. This game is so awesome. So excited for it’s release. Q and A is a good idea for a game like this. I might try that in a future video, thanks for the inspiration lol!
11:16 Thanks for answering my question Derrick!!
TomLegend101 hello XD
What's up?
There‘s one thing I don’t get: I have the choice of with which character I want to start. But let‘s say I’ve started with Therion; I’ll level up on the way to the next character (let’s say Alfyn). When I play the story of Alfyn, but with Therion in the team, am I not overpowered for Alfyn‘s story foes?
Did the creators really build in so many variables for these many cases? I doubt it, but I don’t get it.
I‘m simply amazed of the fact that I can’t really comprehend how they solved this.
Thanks in advance mates.
Wait are they just powering up the shields of the bosses? Thus it takes more effective hits to break them?
@@WithDennisK Yes, they increase the health of the bosses and add a few minor enemies in boss battles.
Timplenut Thank You very much! I was so curious :D
A cinnamon roll is A character that is very kind and sweet but faces more hardship and suffering than they truly deserve. Comes from the usage of an article headline from 'The Onion' titled 'Beautiful Cinnamon Roll Too Good For This World, Too Pure.' to describe a person or character that is very good but faces a lot of pain in their life.
So the character you pick to start is always locked in your party, but wouldn't' the character whose path your currently doing also have to be included? Like if you started with Tressa but you're doing Ophilia's chapter 2, wouldn't both need to be included (Tressa permanently, Ophilia just temporarily)?
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Cyrus has the ability "Evasive Maneuvers" which you can equip to lower the rate of random encounters.
So yes, it is possible to lower it. You can equip and unequip whenever you want to.
...........like you dont watch the video or what?
I played the demo, chose primrose just cause I like dancers in fantasy- I AM IN LOVE
Sapphire Seer she’s great, I like how she feels so mature and her story is so dark yet she’s rather young even compared to some other characters
It’s also probably the most gripping of the stories. I will be the first one to say that I love Tressa and Therion and basically everyone, but out of everyone- Primrose’s story was the only one which really made me thirst for more and made me really FEEL for her. Like with Tressa, I know it’s gon be a cute lil romp that has her slowly grow into the world’s best merchant. Primrose’s? She could very well die or fail to take vengeance, or find any number of dark twists to her story- and even if there isn’t a morbid twist, I can still be emotionally invested in her wellbeing, and the most obvious conclusion to the story: Primrose hunting down and killing the three crows, is still incredibly satisfying. I’m just HYPE all round.
Sapphire Seer yeah her story feels the most compelling in terms of that revenge aspect, the others still very much have reasonable reasons to travel like H’aanit wanting to rescue her master (sounds weird when she doesn’t say it) and Ophelia helping her family but Primrose’s really makes you want to help her and make those men pay so you’re inclined to love her from the beginning, so great
How does the "You surprised your foe" or "Your foe surprised you" thing work? Is this chosen at random? How exactly does this impact the battles? (Please answer this in your review Thursday!)
I think I only had it once and... I honestly didn't notice anything different...? I'd assume it might be working like in Earthbound and Paper Mario, where the supriser gets a free first hit, but those games had on-screen encounters sooo, I guess it's random here?
Flareboxx it's completely random.
If you surprise your foe, your characters get a free round of hits. If your foes surprise you, then your foes get a free round of hits. As for what causes it to happen...? Pretty sure it's random.
I think running affects it. If you notice, whenever you run, the minimap turns red, which I'm assuming increases the chance of random encounters and possibly this surprise mechanic.
Thanks for the answers everyone! :)
With the developers’ constant mention of Final Fantasy VI regarding this game do you think there’s any chance they’re using this engine and art style as a possible test run and if the game is well received and sells well that we might FINALLY get either an FFVI remake or sequel in this style? I feel like a lot of people, if not most, regard FFVI as the best in the series and yet SquareEnix has never done anything with it but sub par mobile ports. I personally think a fully voiced FFVI remake or even sequel in this style would be A-MA-ZING. I think we’ve already gotten enough Final Fantasy 7 content for two lifetimes, it’d be nice to see FFVI get some love.
Scruff Zilla that’s exactly what I thought
I'd buy in a second
Thanks for clarifying on the save files, Derrick. It was a small tidbit, but I appreciate the info so I don’t need to delete a file to start a new game.
Just a small correction. The produced never said it was a spiritual successor to FFVI, he just said it was inspired by VI mechanically.
2:18 Well, while listening to the Atlasdam theme, I noticed it kind of sounded like Caldisla’s beginning theme.
Cyrus for Smash!
But of course
There are four chapters with each character so, that's all around 32 chapters, and when you count in the fact that every chapter is around 1 hour, that becomes 32 hours with just the story, but there's also tons of dungeons, loot chests, and side quests, so that could easily turn into a good 100 hours
30:15 I noticed you left in that "These Nuts" moment you had on Twitter. Good man. XD
My theory (I’ve thought this for months now):
If you’ve noticed, all of the characters are along the edges of the world, with the noticeable omission being the center. And each of these characters is setting out on a personal journey around the world, but while we know where they start, we don’t know where they’ll end up. See where I’m going with this?
I’ve always believed that each character’s story is isolated from the others, but everything will climax at the end where they all meet up in the center of the world. And I believe that all of their issues will be connected too, like there’s one overarching villain or group responsible for all of the character’s conflicts and that’s when their stories intertwine.
I believe that there will be two endings also (ala Bravely Default), as they specifically mentioned once that you can complete all 8 character’s stories in one play through. So my thoughts are that if you complete all of their stories before going to the middle, then you will get the “true” ending.
What do you think?
lol i fucking hope the game looks hella shallow rn and im getting second thoughts on buying it
Raymond Mendoza uhhhhhh no. I strongly disagree that it looks shallow, and in fact that is wrong because I’ve played it. I can understand some people being confused right now by this surprisingly poor Q&A and letting that confusion get them upset (I guess), but let’s not overreact here; Octopath Traveler is a game crafted with immense passion, and the quality is there. What we don’t know is how/if the characters interact.
JacksonLOVESNintendo yeah i completely understand that part i was just saying it looks shallow when it comes to an overarching story that connects everything. sorry if i used the wrong word lmaooo i’m trying to say that the story seems a bit disconnected. i’m still interested in buying the game it’s just a bit disappointing from a story standpoint.
Raymond Mendoza okay it’s all good!! Sorry, sometimes it’s kinda hard to interpret things through just text, but I’m glad we could sort this out!
JacksonLOVESNintendo so this might be so 8)
Some concerning items - non-party characters don't gain XP. Also, no party communication.
they start interacting staring from second stages.
Jeff Gordon I hate when characters gain experience if you don't use them its stupid.
Honestly, a tip that I can recommend if you want to start off, I'd suggest getting Apothecary second job first, then whenever you get a new character with a lot of JP (Around 630) then you can give them the Hale & Hearty skill early and get a major buff for anyone who is much lower level
There are encounter rate modifiers, but you'll have to find and equip the items, and beating the true final boss gets you an item that stops random encounters entirely, for leisurely travel
I read somewhere that your first character is locked to your party until you complete their story, not for the entire game...
The key to grinding is Primrose, its odd that no videos mention this, but you can basically powerlevel using Primrose's bewildering dance. I once got lucky with a triboost bewildering dance and leveled up my entire party 3-5 times from a single battle because i rolled double 2x xp while fighting enemies of a higher level than me.
You can get the job before you get a class by going to the jobs shrine, the shrines are in the chapter two locations that are connected to the city that you recruit the character. As someone who has no sense of direction I would suggest looking up the locations of the shrines
secondary jobs won't be obtained by getting every skill in your first job. you have to find a shrine for each secondary job, where you'll get the ability to "equip" one of your party members with this secondary job. only one character can have a specific secondary job at a time.
It's neat how the 8 different stories tie into one another to make one great story that maked the big bad evil girl that summons an evil god that you defeat.
Jobs aren't based off of how much you fill one job's skills in, it's about finding where those jobs are located and can be done anytime if you're willing to adventure into higher level areas for a bit
Appreciate you answering my question Derrick, thanks.
What are you doing on RUclips? Get back to beating this game *cracks whip.*
But seriously fun Q&A. Hope you're having fun!
The only JRPG I played before this was Pokémon (which is basically its own genre) and I wanted to get into more traditional games of the franchise and this caught my eye. I’m only 2 hours in and I’m already enjoying the game and it’s mechanics.
Each path has 4 chapters and they level up drastically, so it's beneficial to go to each characters chapter 1,2 so on.
It took 12 hours for you to meet all of the characters? I got to 4 of them in the demo ( didn't finish the fourth's intro, though). Do they progressively get harder as you go?
Skip6235 they do get harder I started as tressa and got to Cyrus and it was so hard that I think it was made for two
12 hours seems ridiculous tho, people have got all 8 characters in under 2 hours in the demo
Yeah, I mean I was booking it between towns and not doing any side quests, but I wasn't skipping any dialogue or cut scenes, so I figured even at a more leisurely pace it would only take about 8 hours or so to get all 8 characters. Skipping cut-scenes would make it go super fast, since the dungeons are not very long
If you're speedrunning, of course you'll get them rather quickly. In the full game you presumably won't have any paths blocked off, and you won't have a time limit, so there's more inclination to just leisurely explore off the beaten path and take your time.
LePerfectionist
Of course. They rush on it a new file.
There is a point of convergence of all of their stories, and a true final boss, just have to hunt for it
Good video, but why does he keep answering similar questions?
Toumuyu Because people sent in similar questions.
I just hope as the story progresses they connect more and more.
Okay, I know that probably nobody will see this, and noone cares, but when the Bravely Default music started, I started to cry. These Games were so beautiful
You can get an item later on in the game that reduces the encounter rate
I really interested in the lore of the game regarding the 13 gods, but I’m actually relieved that there doesn’t seem to be a huge converging ending where the characters have to travel to an evil realm and fight the 13th evil god. I don’t know if that’s the case, but I’ll be happy if story is less crazy then most RPGs.
There is a final boss, sorta sealing the story for all characters where you use all eight in two epic battles
Edit: Cyrus and Tressa are my favourites, the character righting was really amazing, almost surreal
I'm lowkey excited to play this.
I don’t know who to start with help...
It’s either therion or primrose
Therion, aka best boi and my personal dodge-tank.
I started with Tressa to stack extra coin early personally
Personally I'm going Therion because there are few worse things than encountering a chest you can't open.
Ahsan Khan I recommend Therion because the Thief skill is usefull at the beginning and you can go to the healer he is also usefull as a 2nd character
Maybe theyll have a converging ending where the last crow man is at the final kindling area, and he turns out to be the man olberic is searching for and has stolen the dragonstones and the tome, and kills haanits mentor, that pirate dude and alfyns hero XD
I have a very important question. Why does Helgenish insist on calling me kitten? I'm clearly a full grown cat.
going 2 pay for my copy today cant wait to play this saturday
eric dawson it comes out Friday
Finalhour10
Really? I got it today...
Ambur Price how?!?
Finalhour10
I don’t know? My friend said our pre orders were ready, so we went and picked it up 😂
Ambur Price lol wtf but the date is scheduled for Friday. Well congrats!
I guess one way to add replay value is to just recruit 4 character and go through the whole game that way. Probably makes it harder though lol
I1m starting two separate saves for this game, each with 4 members only. That way i can enjoy all of them without having to switch characters every time. The first is Therion (main), Alfyn, Haanit and Primrose. and the other is with Ophillia main.
I'm playing the prologue demo, and I chose the teacher first. I'm not even farther than 15 min in the demo but im fighting the other teacher who stole the book (super very early in the demo) I keep dying I don't know how I can win when I have nothing not even hp consumables. What do I do?
Well first you can go to the weapon shop to buy weapons and armor. Armor will be great for defense. You will find it by the sword sign. There is also a shop for hp consumables and sp. That will be indicated by a small bag or sack.
You can also grind to level up. You can also find healing items in chests.
That's all I got so yeah
I hope you can beat it.
These shops will be in the town
I recommend getting a weapon and armor for the start.
Don't get hit
Decently buy equipment upgrades with your starting gold. Use his path action to find hidden items in towns. Level grind to 5 and the boss should be easy. Also make sure to time breaks to stop bosses charge up attacks.
You know your characters can talk to each other. As press + . Said person if you have will interact to each other in their own way. As you can get items from chatting to them to.
So excited to play as Primrose again
I'm curious, if you have to the chosen character in your party at all times, and characters don't gain experience outside of the party, does the chosen character usually end up vastly overleveled compared to the other members of the party?
spaceperson741
I wouldn’t say vastly, because as the game goes on, it requires more experience to level up. They will be a few levels ahead, but nothing too drastic.
When you send out an NPC you've allured/recruited, is it one use per NPC? Can they be re-recruited if so, or can you run out of allies eventually
John Ingemi at least for Guide, you can use the same NPC a few times before they leave. I think you can go back and recruit the same NPC, but I can't remember if I actually ever tried it in the demo.
The music in this video is from Bravely Default!
Ophelia was my choice cause we always need a heal bot
Kefkaownsall and her starter town looks amazing
paul slade that too
I do wonder how she will heal her dad if possible
I did Cyrus next (I did do Primrose in demo1) and I'm liking him cause he's not the typical mage.
Can't think of when I played a teacher in a game
They have a scholar class in final fantasy xiv
her story is a bit standard cleric sadly but i still like her.
Ideal parties would be 1 of each path action type of character, prim and Ophilia essentially have the same interaction skill, as to Olberic and H'aanit, as do Alfyn and Cyrus, however I'd say that Tressa and Therion have the most different path actions, both of their skills are good for your finances, but Therion let's you unlock locked chests, which I adore, and you can pickpocket on a percentage based chance, whereas Tressa passively earns money and instead of stealing, you can buy stuff from people, and on discounts, but some people charge higher for market price on some items, and some people are unwilling to sell certain items from their inventories
I like Primrose the most just because she is the first character I played in the first demo, so when I get the full game, I think I will start her first. The question is which party member should I get next to help Primrose after her first chapter? I think Olberic may be good to go next since Primrose isn't really strong in physical attack or defense and having manpower party member or tank like character is probably best for her.
I just love Therion. Don't even know why.
I love that sometimes he starts his turn laughing
I started with Haanit. How do you select the next character?
Is there a benefit downloading the demo if I own the game already? Like how Pokemon Sun and Moon gave you Ash Greninja, do you get an exclusive item?
Back in the 2000s. Suikoden has 108 heroes, and have a cutscene according to the party you go with... and harvestmoon has a ton of cut scrne... the lack of communication among traveler in this game could be added in some non-canon cut scene... like when visiting cold area, maybe alfyn ask the other if they’re fine, or prims feels the temperature etc etc etc...
or maybe, the developer has in mind that the chapter is semi open world, and by adding cut scene could lead to the ambiguity and inconsistencies story development...
19:34 "constantly scrolling through menus" um welcome to JRPG's if thats not your thing, try a different genre, cuz thats a staple feature. What were you expecting, some sort of free moving ARPG style unlock 20 hours into the game? Octopath makes its game mechanic very clear early on and its ok if its not your style
Ophilia is BEST GIRL!!!
Andres Baquerizo ay., man of culture.
Andres Baquerizo I respect your opinion, even though it's wrong
Hentai Lover, I respect you respecting my opinion, even though your opinion of my opinion is very wrong.
there are 4 poeple to a party right? could you do one full play through with 4 characters then another with the other 4 characters? or it just faster better to play all 8 in one go?
In the demo I went to the tavern when I had five characters and tried to swap out the party leader, and it said, "You cannot swap out your party leader at this time" ...I'm sure you're pretty far in the game, but when it says "at this time" I get the impression that you can eventually swap out the party leader.
DarkBlizzardfly
If you’re in the middle of a chapter then you can’t swap them out until you beat their chapter
Allegryan thank you for your reply. Im specifically talking about the party leader (your first character choice when starting up the game). Derrick keeps saying that you can “never” swap out your first character, but i dont think thats true. Ive heard that you can swap him/her out when you’ve completed all of his/her chapters 🤔
DarkBlizzardfly
Yeah I'm pretty sure by now it's basically confirmed that after beating their story you can finally swap them out.
I'm interested in this game. But, I downloaded the demo, played Haanit and just could not beat her first boss. Is there a trick to the combat system?? Do you have recommendations to beat the bosses?
I would say that Octopath traveler isn't a good place to start for people unfamiliar with turn based RPGs, because this game will give you an unrealistic expectation of how amazing RPGs are, because this game is amazing)
They did confirm at e3 that all paths will connect near the end and will have 1 villain in control of everything
did they?
Lexie D yes ruclips.net/video/BM1uboiGqX4/видео.html here is the video and it's more so towards the middle, he interviews a developer and he said so. But he couldn't say who because he wanted to stay spoiler free
Not a lot of replayabiliry you said...
*thinks to self about upcoming 25th playthrough*
Can you use multiple path actions per npc? (Example: Rob everyone then recruit everyone)
John Ingemi Yep, although if you attack and knock an NPC out, you can't use another action on them until they "wake up", which seems to be after some travelling.
what is the bgm around 12.00 it sounds so familiar but I couldnt reacall where'd I heard it
nvm I got it, it was instant of eternity from bravely default
Is there a chef or catmancer class in the game? I actually kind of like those classes in Bravely second.
I'm playing octopath traveler demo while watching this now
velflare you like it? Who did you choose?
Does he mention whether or not after the initial chapters you HAVE to keep the character relating to every chapter in your party when you play it, or can you put together one party and tackle each chapter without having to switch out one of your main party members?
Taylor Hurdle it seems like you need to keep the character whom which story you’re working on, otherwise you’re free to change them up unless it’s the one you started out with. So unless Olberic was not your choice and you are not or don’t want to work on his story then you’re free to never use him again
I’m so ready for this game !!
Can we finish game on solo? No party
Sofia Cortes
I believe so, you just need to do a little more grinding (and it will probably be more difficult).
i bet im counting on it hehe
If you dont like turn based jrpg, grinding and repetition, then most often than not you wont like this game. I'm a fan though so I will get it first day of release! So excited♡
for second jobs you have to find shrines for each of the jobs
Yes there is a final story
After completing the party leaders story, it can be freely switched
Do you think it will be made for PC and Steam?
you can change out your leader, at the bar! ;)
I'm hearing conflicting things. Another video said that all you need to do is complete another character's chapter 1 before you gained access to their job for a secondary.
bbarrett726 you actually don't need a character to get their job, you just need to find their shrine, I've so far grabbed Ophelia and Cyrus's jobs without playing their first chapter
Technically you don’t, you just need to find the corresponding shrine.
Is it going to mess me up if I only play with 4 of the characters for my first playthrough and then do a second with the remaining 4? I don't like doing rotating teams and I'd prefer to just have one team of 4 even if I have to play the game again
BlueRrew If you want the big ole bad post game content thing, you need to complete all 8 stories and do a few side stories.
6:23 Okay, the red around the camera bothered me when I was playing. I guess its only in Tv mode, because I didn't see it in portable mode.
you are able to turn this off in the option menu ;)
afkCORPS I’ll check it out
Are the stories different between characters for the whole game? like after the prologue does the game just end up exactly the same for each character?
Pre order is set I’m dying for Friday to come
Question 1. You can reach all 8 characters in the 3 hour demo (one play through) I know of at least one speed run that hit all 8 in less then 2 hours
Ruben Fugate na I only reached one