1 killed, 2 wounded in East Village stabbing

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Комментарии • 238

  • @user-ux8hg8bk3e
    @user-ux8hg8bk3e 3 месяца назад +72

    High crime and high rent, go hand in hand in NYC!

    • @Darnell_369
      @Darnell_369 3 месяца назад +4

      High prevlance o'blax as well

    • @rma3_3_3
      @rma3_3_3 3 месяца назад +1

      And The NY Rents are being Raised Again This Year!!!
      3rd consecutive raise with E.Adam’s as mayor of NY.
      Adam’s is Destroying NY!!!
      Send Emails to them ALL !!!

    • @signumcrucis71
      @signumcrucis71 3 месяца назад

      Uncle Biden continues his good work, there is no inflation, black people don't kill other black people, crime decreases in democratic states, and surprisingly, black families are more cohesive!!

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      Low iq fits in quite well too.

    • @jessygarci
      @jessygarci 3 месяца назад +2

      How many times are we going to see this same comment. Might as well post that in every state there is crime. Flordia is getting there to with high rent and crime.

  • @randylotito8045
    @randylotito8045 3 месяца назад +33

    RIGHT HERE WE DEFINITELY INDEED NEED CURTIS SLIWA FROM THE GUARDIAN ANGELS AS OUR NEW NEXT N.Y.C. MAYOR FOR CITY HALL # VOTE 🗳 🗳 🗳 RED ❤❤❤.

    • @zeeman3684
      @zeeman3684 3 месяца назад

      !

    • @Rhinestone_Radio
      @Rhinestone_Radio 3 месяца назад +1

      What we need is to exercise our Right to Bare Armed…..

    • @ufo_vid9694
      @ufo_vid9694 3 месяца назад +1

      Nosotros votamos por Trump! 45/47
      No more Bribenomics

    • @rlbk525
      @rlbk525 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Rhinestone_RadioBear, not bare.

    • @tatertott2390
      @tatertott2390 3 месяца назад

      People who want to carry around 🔫 but can't spell 😂 ​@@rlbk525

  • @markdegrange6445
    @markdegrange6445 3 месяца назад +9

    Just another normal day in a DEMOCRAT run city…..no surprise 😢

  • @7_of_9
    @7_of_9 3 месяца назад +23

    Catch and release is #1 reason for NYC crimes. #2 reason is drugs drugs. #3 stop and frisk no longer allowed, this prevented most crimes

    • @derekjeter3654
      @derekjeter3654 3 месяца назад +5

      #4 Democrats

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      So basically liberal politics is bad for civilization.

    • @ginaj617
      @ginaj617 3 месяца назад +2

      # 1 Democrats

    • @ChrisBarber-b2r
      @ChrisBarber-b2r 3 месяца назад

      Unless you are an intelligent person, then you would know that the #1 problem there is the voters.

  • @stevedee8158
    @stevedee8158 3 месяца назад +10

    Yep, violent crime is way down in NYC. I did statistics for work a while ago, you can make stats say whatever u need them to say. Once again thanks to Biden, Hochul, Adam’s and Bragg.

    • @CordillaGershwin
      @CordillaGershwin 3 месяца назад

      You’re insane and intentionally lying.

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад +1

      all 4 are traitors

  • @TrollingWithTheTruth
    @TrollingWithTheTruth 3 месяца назад +32

    All that chaos and those folks are paying $4k+ a month to live there.............Those residents VOTED for their situation.

    • @AggravatedMan365
      @AggravatedMan365 3 месяца назад +5

      Exactly! I don't feel sorry for them

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад +4

      A wise man once said " you can't fix stupid " .

    • @smedleybutler1969
      @smedleybutler1969 3 месяца назад

      Don't be too sure about that NYC is the OG voter fraud city remember Tammany Hall and Boss Tweed !

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      not all of us. btw i pay 1036.48 a month for a one bedroom apt on saint mark's place. 6 blocks south....

    • @TrollingWithTheTruth
      @TrollingWithTheTruth 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ajheermans Well, you are probably paying what that apt is REALLY worth.

  • @silverboots2934
    @silverboots2934 3 месяца назад +22

    It’s getting so dangerous now In East Village

    • @veritassyfer1185
      @veritassyfer1185 3 месяца назад +8

      The politicians and media says crime is down. Obey.

    • @Tortilla.Reform
      @Tortilla.Reform 3 месяца назад

      @@veritassyfer1185Because it literally is, the numbers are tracked and they are falling. Just because you watch the news and fall for the fear mongering about rampant crime, it doesn’t mean the actual data reflects that. Cities in Red states actually have higher violent crime, and nationwide violent crime has been falling for decades. Of course the lock downs caused an unprecedented spike, but even that has been falling ever since
      Everyone should try to not fall for manufactured culture wars and divisive media rhetoric meant to stoke fear and paranoia in citizens
      We all know the news makes money when people are afraid and on edge, but somehow certain people conveniently ignore that truth when it fits their predetermined narrative (looking at you hahaha)

    • @derekjeter3654
      @derekjeter3654 3 месяца назад +4

      There's a word in this comment that is completely wrong but I'm gonna let the people figure it out. And also this ENTIRE city has been dangerous for decades.

    • @emmapeel8163
      @emmapeel8163 3 месяца назад +1

      returning to its past self. all that's changed is cost.

    • @jessygarci
      @jessygarci 3 месяца назад +1

      Alphabet city always been pretty dangerous.

  • @zaMASTERCHIEF
    @zaMASTERCHIEF 3 месяца назад +10

    Mayor Adams with all due respect NO

  • @ellarodriguez3773
    @ellarodriguez3773 3 месяца назад +8

    Congratulations to the Democrats!! This is what they get for voting blue! Open up your eyes and brain people ! VOTE RED❤

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      easy to say, but they are seriously bat crap crazy. today 28th of june, biden came to town to honor the homos at their shrine called stonewall.... cops and road blocks everywhere...... the only person who was angry and mouthing off was a prog demon blaming the cops for the traffic jam..... total douche

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson3427 3 месяца назад +14

    Gotta band knives now.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      " Knife free zone" signs are coming to liberal cities.

  • @DinkyBaltimore4364
    @DinkyBaltimore4364 3 месяца назад +4

    "Illegal street vendors": As in (ILLEGAL) alien invaders?

    • @2cleo
      @2cleo 3 месяца назад

      Yes they take the free food and clothing and sell it in the streets for a profit DISGUSTING!!

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      there are about 80-100 african illegal m.f.'s all military age men..... not one woman in sight. they get a hotel room every night, free food, all have a new phone and clothing and a debit card that refills monthly with $1500. fk em up

  • @samallardyce2522
    @samallardyce2522 3 месяца назад +18

    but you guys want to defund the police

    • @Foreign84
      @Foreign84 3 месяца назад

      Lmao you're dumb Af. Wtf that has to do with crime happening you idiot 😂

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      not all of us

  • @isbe8810
    @isbe8810 3 месяца назад +10

    I live on this block, I saw everything unfolding from my living room , I have been writing to the city to clean up this block, it is disgusting, it is dirty , it is scary , unsafe, you name it ! I am sooo ready to vote Adam out!!

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      This crime happens because politicians are paid to destroy America.

    • @DinkyBaltimore4364
      @DinkyBaltimore4364 3 месяца назад

      I bet you voted the prejudice buffoon in.

    • @ginaj617
      @ginaj617 3 месяца назад

      And yet most of you will still vote for Democrats

    • @ManChan-w5p
      @ManChan-w5p 3 месяца назад

      L train First Ave.

    • @isbe8810
      @isbe8810 3 месяца назад

      @@ManChan-w5p yep, my building can be seen in the background. Luckily it is quiet up here so I did not hear the commotion, because I would have freaked out !

  • @TheDAT573
    @TheDAT573 3 месяца назад +17

    Trump 2024!!!!!

  • @slapshot68
    @slapshot68 3 месяца назад +41

    Don’t complain about this if u all give AOC another term this wk!

    • @LatinPerspective.
      @LatinPerspective. 3 месяца назад +6

      The East Village is part of Manhattan Community District 3.
      Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez represent New York's 14th congressional district.

    • @veritassyfer1185
      @veritassyfer1185 3 месяца назад +6

      @@LatinPerspective. Yet, she runs her mouth about caring for everyone (As long as you agree with her). Soooo, yeah she brags about being from NY. She can make some calls and get some people together to actually do something. People like her ARE the issue with politics. They get nothing done tight. Help no one. Only care for themselves.

    • @pji1979
      @pji1979 3 месяца назад +11

      Not only does AOC not represent this district, she's part of the US House of Representatives, which has no impact on local crime. If you're going to get political, at least make sense.

    • @dwillz6648
      @dwillz6648 3 месяца назад +1

      She says all this is over bread...how naive

    • @mikeclemets863
      @mikeclemets863 3 месяца назад

      Non nyc comment

  • @Sok10253
    @Sok10253 3 месяца назад +6

    So sorry to hear about that it's just crazy out here hoping the injured gets better and my condolences to the family of the deceased may he Rip 🙏

  • @cancerking9416
    @cancerking9416 3 месяца назад +7

    He won’t tell you he’s the reason New York is disgusting!

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад +1

      Democrat policies and its not just from him. It's all of them.

    • @albundy06
      @albundy06 3 месяца назад +1

      He is not the reason. New Yorkers period are the reason.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      @@albundy06 you are both correct. He is in power because new yorkers are not competent voters.

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      @@albundy06 SOME not all

    • @albundy06
      @albundy06 3 месяца назад

      @@ajheermans Of course nor all, but the majority

  • @bezmoney
    @bezmoney 3 месяца назад +16

    Dam WTF is going on in NY? summer just begun 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @derekjeter3654
      @derekjeter3654 3 месяца назад +1

      You really don't know what is going on with this New Crime City? Really?

    • @bezmoney
      @bezmoney 3 месяца назад +1

      @@derekjeter3654 just a general statement sir of course I know what going on . Have a blessed day

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      Liberal politics is what's going on.

  • @AggravatedMan365
    @AggravatedMan365 3 месяца назад +14

    You all voted for this, now deal with it

  • @malin7919
    @malin7919 3 месяца назад +15

    Joe Biden America. Vote this fall for your family and community.

    • @ci310
      @ci310 3 месяца назад +6

      you acting like this didn't happen when trump was in office 🙄 nothing will change regardless of who runs this country

    • @jakano80
      @jakano80 3 месяца назад

      ​@ci310 not to this level of lawlessness! You ny "progressive" voters blamed Trump for everything for 4 years. Then you voted for leftists and opened up floodgates of illegals. You voted for this soft on crime bs

    • @karlmarx9853
      @karlmarx9853 3 месяца назад

      @@ci310 You are definitely right, it will never change, one and only change that could happen, its only through the REVOLUTION

    • @alfonzodavis1446
      @alfonzodavis1446 3 месяца назад

      Omg yesss queen I’m voting for daddy trump 😜

    • @JonnyUnforeseen
      @JonnyUnforeseen 3 месяца назад

      I wonder who was president when the deadliest shooting in US history happened? 🤔

  • @AnthonyChobotdoespopcult-jz7jr
    @AnthonyChobotdoespopcult-jz7jr 3 месяца назад +23

    I need to get out of nyc if trump doesn't win were screwed

    • @markdegrange6445
      @markdegrange6445 3 месяца назад +2

      Get out before it’s too late……but I think it’s already too late

    • @albundy06
      @albundy06 3 месяца назад

      Trump will have very little effect on the local level. Liberal dumpster fires are going to be continued dumpster fires.
      And that's after they put the fires out from them burning the place down after election night.

  • @CindyR
    @CindyR 3 месяца назад +2

    No need to worry good, tax paying citizens, NY politicians and the NYPD assure us that crime is down. Can’t everyone clearly see, that NYC just oozes with safety and security?

  • @ShirleyHightower-s6j
    @ShirleyHightower-s6j 3 месяца назад +3

    This is why I don’t want to move back to N. Y. I know it’s bad everywhere, but N. Y. Is over the top.

  • @lmc2664
    @lmc2664 3 месяца назад +2

    To our mayor, Look, acknowledging the problem without taking actions is just another lip service.

  • @tomoyotanaka7813
    @tomoyotanaka7813 3 месяца назад +6

    Before you call my neighborhood “disgusting”, do something. I’m paying sky high rent n living here.
    So rude n lazy, huh?! Mr.mayor!

    • @isbe8810
      @isbe8810 3 месяца назад +2

      I live right above the Traders Joe’s and I am ready to vote Adam out!

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      Why ?

  • @claudiaclaudia936
    @claudiaclaudia936 3 месяца назад +2

    NYC= NO SELF DEFENSE 🖕🏽💀

  • @Duolingo13-c8g
    @Duolingo13-c8g 3 месяца назад +2

    I sweat 2024 is getting crazier every minute

  • @vincentv1432
    @vincentv1432 3 месяца назад +10

    Adams is a failure

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      He is doing exactly what he promised his voters he would do. The voters are the failures. They made this choice knowing the liberal policies they are supporting..

  • @hereandnow8578
    @hereandnow8578 3 месяца назад +2

    out there selling stolen property. that's exactly why the city must enforce vending licensing and permits

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      8 million in the city, 1 million in madhattan. good luck keeping that working. it's amazing anything works

  • @rlbk525
    @rlbk525 3 месяца назад +1

    People talking about how that neighborhood has gone down hill; that area was always a $h1th0l3, even when rudy turned nyc into disneyland! 😏 🤷‍♂️
    Maybe governor goofy and Eric the grifter should put state troopers and the national guard in that neighborhood to clean it up?? 🙄

  • @samuraisaxon6800
    @samuraisaxon6800 3 месяца назад +1

    That female witnessed interviewed is everything that’s wrong with New York.

  • @hanwin651
    @hanwin651 3 месяца назад +2

    Not sure Mayor Adam intentionally let that happened to reduce drug and homeless population in NYC ! He knew this is going to happen in this area.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      Sanctuary status actually invites crime and homelessness but city people wont stop voting left so the problem gets worse as the people elected tell you your eyes are lying to you. Can't fix this unless nyc changes what they vote for.

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      he's compromised ... good boys do what their told...or else

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      @@ajheermans willingly compromised. Yes all democrats are working the same playbook. Xi jinping approved playbook.

  • @kiki1965
    @kiki1965 3 месяца назад +6

    Lawd...Bad Lands! 😵

  • @vsoraya
    @vsoraya 3 месяца назад +1

    It is just 1 block to solve this issue, and the city isn't capable to do anything for these people living there. Can't understand what it takes to enforce the law.

  • @scottwade7073
    @scottwade7073 3 месяца назад +2

    Nothing new

  • @1984WW-b5d
    @1984WW-b5d 3 месяца назад +2

    YOU GOTTA BE TRAINED TO GO! IN NYC

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад +1

      it's simple, there are some simple #1 rules, #1 mind yer business, #1 get outta the way, #1 carry

  • @sometimesfriendly9839
    @sometimesfriendly9839 3 месяца назад +1

    Things didn't get chaotic during Covid, they got chaotic during the Summer of Floyd where New Yorkers took to the streets to demand what's currently happening on that block to happen.

  • @indigosunset70
    @indigosunset70 3 месяца назад +3

    vote republican next mayoral elections.

  • @johnmcvey3085
    @johnmcvey3085 3 месяца назад +1

    That south side stretch of 14th between 1st and Avenue C never felt right to me. It always creeped me out with all of the decrepit buildings and the weird little ghetto storefronts.

    • @ManChan-w5p
      @ManChan-w5p 3 месяца назад

      Yes I grew up there. Pete's a place. Emaculate Conception.

  • @noorgonzalez1076
    @noorgonzalez1076 3 месяца назад +2

    Psalm 37:10,11

  • @l.c.4788
    @l.c.4788 3 месяца назад +1

    Welcome To The Rotten Apple.

  • @douggoldstein2433
    @douggoldstein2433 3 месяца назад +4

    Book em

  • @mrhumble2129
    @mrhumble2129 3 месяца назад +1

    God damn pilgrims

  • @LawandOrder-fi5xk
    @LawandOrder-fi5xk 3 месяца назад +1

    Why isn't there a picture of the suspect? I guess we need a Knife Free Zone and blame the National Knife Association and the knife manufacturer. Recall Bragg and make Adams a one term mayor. Bring back Giuliani and Stop and Frisk.

    • @Moodboard39
      @Moodboard39 3 месяца назад

      Because it be racist lol

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      @@Moodboard39 ha,,, don't you know EVERYTHING is racist

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      Giuliani Time.... got the drug dealers off my stoop..... my son had to walk through them everyday on his way to school

  • @statestreetradio2967
    @statestreetradio2967 3 месяца назад +2

    🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @JohnMoog-ug6bk
    @JohnMoog-ug6bk 3 месяца назад +10

    Obama’s son or Biden’s guest?

  • @INTHISFALL
    @INTHISFALL 3 месяца назад +1

    It never ends in nyc -_-

  • @DeanKing-jd2tx
    @DeanKing-jd2tx 3 месяца назад

    To our mayor, Look, acknowledging the problem without taking actions is just another lip service.

  • @pjheloguy
    @pjheloguy 3 месяца назад +1

    Very cosmopolitan

  • @Foreign84
    @Foreign84 3 месяца назад +1

    Lower east side

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      the crime in the story was in the north side of the east village. lower east side starts at Houston.... (pronounced house - ton, not hewston

  • @pauljackson8282
    @pauljackson8282 3 месяца назад

    The reporters in this and other stories like it should ask those bystanders that they interview if they vote Democrat. If they say yes they should be asked what did you expect.

  • @ChrisBarber-b2r
    @ChrisBarber-b2r 3 месяца назад

    I'm glad to say that we didn't vote to have that kind of society where we live.

  • @kevonphillip-bt6ky
    @kevonphillip-bt6ky 3 месяца назад

    Thank you kindly Mr Joe Torres and Ms Sonia Rincon for your collaborations in updating the general public about this senseless act of violence at alphabet city. Ms Sonia and Mr Torres I appreciate your sufficient information, excellent news coverage of the crime scene, special coverage of Mayor Adams immediate response to this particular crisis, full details of how the crime occur, and imperson interview with community residents, and a witness of the crime. God bless you all,have a wonderful week.

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад

      it's the east village..... alphabet starts with Ave A and goes east.. this was west of Ave A

  • @Shell2014
    @Shell2014 3 месяца назад +3

    What happened to defund police n send in social workers………..😂😂😂 Let’s make protecting USA citizens great again! Trump 2024!

  • @Jaydyte
    @Jaydyte 3 месяца назад +1

    This is very sad 😔, does it take a soul to die for the city to do something about 14th and Union Square NYC? That place is a mess, the stench of cannabis, human waste and urine that emanates from that area as you walk or drive past is disgraceful. People lying about and wandering around aimlessly in the area, these are not tourists but aimless locals. The NYC police should do a thorough cleaning 🧼🧹of the area both during the day at night. I knew it was a matter of time before such news start coming out, drug dealers have made Union Square and 14th NYC their New Haven.

    • @brunoqnzbk7891
      @brunoqnzbk7891 3 месяца назад

      Not locals, TRANSPLANTS. NYC Natives are barely in Manhattan anymore.

  • @59_xgx
    @59_xgx 2 месяца назад

    Not the east village, it’s alphabet city

  • @josiahlomas2111
    @josiahlomas2111 3 месяца назад

    Most likely illegal immigrants...

  • @MrBond007-k2u
    @MrBond007-k2u 3 месяца назад +6

    🍉 or 🌮? 🤔

  • @salaudinmuhammad5379
    @salaudinmuhammad5379 3 месяца назад

    On Biden's watch

  • @punyhuman4981
    @punyhuman4981 3 месяца назад

    Ban assault knives

  • @davestonehill6177
    @davestonehill6177 3 месяца назад

    Life with no parole

  • @Yunuserat
    @Yunuserat 3 месяца назад

    elhamdülillah

  • @billybadass3056
    @billybadass3056 3 месяца назад

    alphabet city

  • @LuisPerez-ug1bg
    @LuisPerez-ug1bg 3 месяца назад +1

    Well it's sad someone had to lose their life. Rip and condolences to the family. On the other hand, look what it took for the nypd to step in and clean the block up... 😢

    • @ajheermans
      @ajheermans 3 месяца назад +1

      they do it all the time all over the place....

  • @house7410
    @house7410 3 месяца назад

    let me guess,usual suspects???

  • @tbd-5160
    @tbd-5160 3 месяца назад +4

    It's sad, I was a production assistant and writer on How I Met Your Mother & we spent all night doing an Active Shot in this location. Well ... New York will always be New York

    • @greatestvideos3496
      @greatestvideos3496 3 месяца назад

      It is sad you wolverine boy

    • @veritassyfer1185
      @veritassyfer1185 3 месяца назад +2

      Not this rate. We haven't seen rate like this in decades. We are supposed to improve QOL not accept lower standards at higher cost.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw 3 месяца назад

      That's what the voters want .

    • @tbd-5160
      @tbd-5160 3 месяца назад

      @@greatestvideos3496 Yes, I am a Wolverine, I went to the University of Michigan. What's your excuse?

    • @greatestvideos3496
      @greatestvideos3496 3 месяца назад

      @@tbd-5160 nike commercial eeh

  • @imrytebeehyneu
    @imrytebeehyneu 3 месяца назад +5

    Ban Knives

  • @stevehendriksen2127
    @stevehendriksen2127 3 месяца назад

    Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Blame the Dems for defunding the police.

  • @mwildthing5525
    @mwildthing5525 3 месяца назад +8

    Nyc a liberal paradise

    • @Moodboard39
      @Moodboard39 3 месяца назад

      Nah, just incompetent leaders

  • @acestarone
    @acestarone 3 месяца назад +1

    trashy block

  • @SamanthaOrtiz-g1c
    @SamanthaOrtiz-g1c 3 месяца назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏🕯️🕊️

  • @charsibaba6960
    @charsibaba6960 3 месяца назад

    “What started all this ?” The election of Biden .

  • @daryoushsameyah8329
    @daryoushsameyah8329 3 месяца назад

    Ban knives!
    Ban ALL knives!
    Especially, ban all those high-capacity assault knives!

  • @LOVE5JAB
    @LOVE5JAB 3 месяца назад

    Ia the killer belongs from Harlem or Brooklyn?

  • @charliecharlie7898
    @charliecharlie7898 3 месяца назад +1

    President Biden ! Ban all knives.!!!

  • @jermvelez3444
    @jermvelez3444 3 месяца назад

    They won’t show the suspect because they black

  • @finn3408
    @finn3408 3 месяца назад +3

    VOTE RED.

  • @finn3408
    @finn3408 3 месяца назад +8

    VOTE RED.

  • @picado4843
    @picado4843 3 месяца назад

    It only happened democrats state, specially in ny city , there is no surprise at all , , where is Eric and Kathy ?