Our 2WD Apocalypse Motorcycle gets Huge Upgrades! | 1971 Rokon Revival Pt. 2

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @CarsandCameras
    @CarsandCameras  2 года назад +148

    Ike ruthlessly sending the Rokon made my day😂

    • @alleyboyzgarage3213
      @alleyboyzgarage3213 2 года назад +5

      Keep them crazy builds coming awesome video . Like always 👍

    • @GratefulEd907
      @GratefulEd907 2 года назад +2

      I didn’t think they could go that fast. You should try to tow a truck with it

    • @FukTheGovernment465
      @FukTheGovernment465 2 года назад +6

      PLEASE CONTINUE THE PRANK WARS GUYS! (in a safe manner).

    • @therealwill9729
      @therealwill9729 2 года назад +1

      Y'all messed that rokon up it's 2 wheel drive keep it that way and put a built 212 or 420

    • @therealwill9729
      @therealwill9729 2 года назад +1

      And if you can't figure out the handling the front tire is supposed to spin faster than the rear I've had a few

  • @endgovernmentextremism
    @endgovernmentextremism 2 года назад +102

    It's crazy how far this channel has come... I know it's been a lot of hard work and dedication. Well deserved.

    • @trevorlyle6381
      @trevorlyle6381 2 года назад +3

      @Clara kiss off

    • @johnjachens7103
      @johnjachens7103 2 года назад +1

      @Clara no one asked

    • @Mesoymomo
      @Mesoymomo 2 года назад

      It’s Crazy, I’ve been here ever since John had been posting Miata content

    • @thedude7726
      @thedude7726 2 года назад

      Getting john off the camera more helps. That guy is a tool box

    • @pro_moderngamer4943
      @pro_moderngamer4943 2 года назад +1

      truly well deserved, i remember watching these guys in johns parents garage building mainly small go carts. i love to see them doing good for themselves

  • @TaylorTobitt
    @TaylorTobitt 2 года назад +47

    can’t wait to see the redemption round!! that will be awesome seeing what the top machines will do again!

  • @davidbell6101
    @davidbell6101 2 года назад +3

    Rokons were built in a former railroad workshop in Keene NH just down the street from where I lived. For a short period of time I worked on restoring a silk screen press in an adjacent bay in the workshop. This was 1970-71. If my memory serves me , the engine in your machine was geared down so low was to make sure there was adequate power when the vehicle was loaded and operating in high altitude back country. I also have a vague memory of them working on a motocross or an enduro bike with an automatic transmission. I remember very little about that bike except that it was very fast and did some impressive wheelies down the length of Railroad Street.

    • @mickoram7524
      @mickoram7524 2 года назад

      They are made in Rochester, NH these days

    • @davidbell6101
      @davidbell6101 2 года назад

      @@mickoram7524 Nice to know they are still around. I remember them being nice folks.

  • @jimnash526
    @jimnash526 2 года назад +2

    You guys are all winners !!! So glad you found Charles !!

  • @Snake.br549
    @Snake.br549 2 года назад +1

    Engineering an exhaust system can be exhausting !

  • @spagamoto
    @spagamoto 2 года назад +23

    I love how "Magic Box" is now an accepted term for "90 degree gearbox". I use the term too now :)

    • @1one3_Racing
      @1one3_Racing 2 года назад +2

      On the farm a magic box was always a rotation converter. A 90 degree gearbox was always just called a gearbox.
      We only ever used rotation converters rarely like on multi blade offset slashers where they needed to turn in opposite directions for balance. Even most of them just used 90 degree boxes on different configurations to get the correct rotation.

    • @lilredwagon5311
      @lilredwagon5311 2 года назад

      @@1one3_Racing am actually curious here. What is a multi blade offset slasher? Is it a tractor attachment? What is its purpose? Never heard of such a thing but then again I'm just an extremely small time hobby farmer just growing for my own family haha!

    • @1one3_Racing
      @1one3_Racing 2 года назад

      @@lilredwagon5311 yes, to behind a tractor. You have a standard slasher which is just a giant blade running off the pto through a 90 degree gearbox. An offset slasher doesn't pull behind the tractor but pulls alongside it so you dont run over what you're cutting. Depending on what you're cutting and how big your tractor is a single blade may not be enough. Our 200hp tractor used to pull a 3 blade slasher (which looks like like a ride on lawnmower deck bit bigger) and since all three blades were on the left side of the input shaft we ran 2 blades counter clockwise and 1 anti clockwise so it pulled alongside but didn't shake itself to bits.

    • @donaldhalls2189
      @donaldhalls2189 2 года назад

      Magic box from what I've found out reverses direction of input clockwise output anticlockwise on the same drive line? All the best interesting to me

    • @RonaldDaub-xi5jz
      @RonaldDaub-xi5jz 7 месяцев назад

      Yes in the millwright industry we know all of the correct terms LOL​@@1one3_Racing

  • @patrickbennett9120
    @patrickbennett9120 2 года назад +23

    Love the channel... been watching for years now... def like many of the projects and like the fact that most are budget oriented. And yes Charles is all around good guy that any team would appreciate. I am an
    older subscriber so I like Isaac and his wisdom about everything mechanical and life in general... sure we would be fast friends if parred in life... keep up the quality work... youtube has created so many opportunities for content like this... it is a blessing when garage go cart builders have an audience... and a market for that talent... we all are the better for it!

  • @mikeanderson2730
    @mikeanderson2730 2 года назад

    Hearing John humming "The race" by yellow from 1987 gives everything a brand new dimension..

  • @darylnicklen3685
    @darylnicklen3685 2 года назад +1

    Love the Rokun Content they were not built as a speed machine would love to see it doing 2 WD stuff. Bringing on Charles I originally thought was a mistake. I changed my mind and now appreciate what he brings to the channel. The dynamic the 3 of you share is great. Congrats on getting the new shop up and running in 2022. Car & Cameras keeps bringing more great content and we the viewers Love it. Dazza from Australia

  • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
    @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 2 года назад +1

    Rokon the Beast of low MPH! Climbs where only mountain goats can go...

  • @bryduhbikeguy
    @bryduhbikeguy 2 года назад +1

    I've wanted 1 of the Rokons since I was a teen.Now I know it just takes a few mods to be able to keep up with the Coleman's,in most trail's.Well done guys.Can;t wait for the paint.

  • @davesplace1307
    @davesplace1307 2 года назад +6

    The 3 of you stuges can get some stuff done. Definitely love the crew and that includes charles! Here's to 2022 with cars and cameras cant wait to see what kind of gnarly things you all can build in the new big shop

  • @rydplrs71
    @rydplrs71 2 года назад +1

    I’m about 45 minutes from the factory and tonight I finally met someone who has seen one of these.

  • @speckledjim_
    @speckledjim_ 2 года назад +1

    So happy to see this channel grow like it has, can't say I don't miss the original GP at your folks place but this is where it deserves to be 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @chopshopminibikes170
    @chopshopminibikes170 2 года назад +1

    Go Charles!! And happy new years guys from chopshop minibikes

  • @CurtisDrew1
    @CurtisDrew1 2 года назад

    I had a KLR that had a diesel 18 HP Generator engine put in it and it would do 55 mph using a CV transmission.
    (A David Sarks build) When I bought it I couldn't get it over 40 mph. But after bending up a lot better intake and exhaust tubes for it, it breathed a lot better. I made it so it would breath through the KLRs Air FIlter and exhaust out the KLR Muffler. It was even street legal. I rode it to work several times for about 3 years ..... I sold it to a friend in Ohio. I believe he's still riding it. It was a hoot to ride but smoked badly at top speed WFO. Wanting to build another one, one of these days and use a real transmission with a clutch. Plan is to use a 3 cylinder Turbo Diesel Already have the engine & 6 speed transmission.
    You guys are a hoot!

  • @presleyfleckmotorizedbikef4285

    Charles is definitely a best addition to the team the three of you get into some great trouble in a good way glad to watch all your videos thank you again

  • @IgobySensei
    @IgobySensei 2 года назад

    Grew up with these. Dad would take us on 3 to 5 day trips with these. Have 5 of them. Down to 3 running currently. Hooked up a speedometer to one, top speed was about 25mph stock 3rd gear. Just stay away from mud with small rocks in it, it will pop the chains off and you'll spend the rest of your day getting them to dry dirt depending how far you drove in a dry lake bed.

  • @bigjim8088
    @bigjim8088 2 года назад +2

    Its great seeing Charles I hope things continues to go great for him and all of you.

  • @martychin9496
    @martychin9496 Год назад

    Your Rokon originally was a 2-stroke model designed for a top speed of 20 MPH, New 4 stroke is 35 mph, they were never designed for speed, their aim is 60-degree incline from a standing start, climbing up and over obstacles is where its at for Rokon. I believe the magic number is maximum 8 hp, the limit of the drivetrain. Always fun to tinker.

  • @bobadam7021
    @bobadam7021 2 года назад +4

    I love how Charles is doing call backs every week, like he's a true fan of the channel who now gets to do the work. I'm also pretty sure he's a fan of Mortske Repair, I've heard a couple call backs from there too.

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 2 года назад +1

      Mortske Repair is one of my favorite channels period.

  • @ClickoZen
    @ClickoZen 2 года назад

    Gotta say one thing this year, been following since 2016. John what i really appreciate here its not only the talent and drive to keep doing cool stuff, its the friendship and the way you guys treat us and yourselves. John you are a kind guy, gotta say. Ike is the cousin/uncle i always wanted and Charles is pure humanity dude. Anyways happy 22 to y'all. And regards from Spain

  • @larrydavidson3402
    @larrydavidson3402 2 года назад +13

    Pretty clever exhaust routing there Ike. I think you guys have that working pretty well. So looking forward to moving in the new shop.

    • @reelfishingtradition1655
      @reelfishingtradition1655 2 года назад +2

      Only needs mixed oil and gas when in a race, nothing like a great smoke screen to slow down the comp lol.

  • @inmyopinion6836
    @inmyopinion6836 2 года назад +1

    I think the Rokon would be worthy of an update . Newer models have suspensions. This will be a vast improvement in handling and speed.

  • @jasonpeace1991
    @jasonpeace1991 2 года назад +3

    That exhaust routing was awesome!

  • @glennhotchkiss7900
    @glennhotchkiss7900 2 года назад

    You guys are so lucky to have each other. Friends are the best. Love your projects. No worries, It will be fine.

  • @billwilliamson9842
    @billwilliamson9842 2 года назад

    It was nice to see a C&C mini bike vid today. My dad passed away early this mornin and this took my mind off it a while, thanks for that. I really like the rokons, may end up with one if i find a need for it on my short bus as I travel. The correct technical term for that exhaust fab Ike is called "polishin a turd" lol

  • @roberttelfer3150
    @roberttelfer3150 2 года назад +12

    Cheers Guys for the awesome content! The real test is the off road climbing abilities been 2wd... Great for hunting 👍

  • @danielsells76
    @danielsells76 2 года назад +13

    Happy New Year to everyone, looking forward to seeing all the no projects you come up with especially now that you are going to have a great new shop

  • @richardbrady2818
    @richardbrady2818 2 года назад +1

    Mini bike engine, Mini bike with big tires that's it! Ya we Love Charles

  • @ratherbeoutdoors345
    @ratherbeoutdoors345 2 года назад

    Charles is a great edition to the team I'm not saying this because I'm a west Virginia native like him he's just a all around laid-back guy and is very knowledgeable John and Ike same for ya'll great group one of my favorite channels it inspires me to try projects like ya'll do but my children and work schedule don't allow it to happen and proper tools

  • @montyhutchens4088
    @montyhutchens4088 2 года назад

    There was a guy several years back rode one of those from coast to coast to promote the brand. Good to see an old one saved.👍

  • @bryduhbikeguy
    @bryduhbikeguy 2 года назад

    I'm so glad you're going to make the track safer.For the love of yourselves,and us,please take out those 2 trees before the creek.Everytime you go there I cringe.I wish I could help build the shop with you.Whatever you guys do,we'll be right here waiting to see your next ventures.

  • @jondavidmcnabb
    @jondavidmcnabb 2 года назад +4

    I absolutely love the Rokon! I would love to see you folks put a better/more powerful motor in it and do a solid paintjob.

  • @rossprivate5456
    @rossprivate5456 2 года назад +2

    love watching the speed runs on your track and i,m glad you guys are thinking of making it a bit safer, having done plenty of laps on tracks like yours its really only a matter of time before someone clips a tree ,so a little bit of clearing in some spots encourages you to push a bit harder with less worry. play safe and love your channel THANKS GUYS

  • @Thunder_Bear_mg
    @Thunder_Bear_mg 2 года назад

    "I'm working with a bubble" gets me every time. C&C catch phrases... "I don't know what do to with my hands"

  • @briancullen5183
    @briancullen5183 2 года назад

    Good job cobbling that together. Let air out of tires to run less rough. Rokons rock.

  • @ronaldalleman2111
    @ronaldalleman2111 2 года назад

    L remember the Rokan when it cam out it was unstoppable,good job on bringing it back to life

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 2 года назад +2

    Keep in mind this Rokon was factory geared to be able to drag the Deer, or whatever you shot, out of the forest.
    To test if this is still possible with the new gearing you could simply tie a rope to Charles's leg and take him for a lap around the track. Just kidding Charles, we love ya!

  • @mr.gadgetfishing2134
    @mr.gadgetfishing2134 2 года назад

    Very Cool. I have a 60 or earlier with the 5hp motor. Tanks rotted out and has been just setting. Keep thinking about selling it but never have. Glad to see there is more than one Rokon in NC

  • @digschopper9321
    @digschopper9321 2 года назад

    Rokon,pride of NH.

  • @84greenbear
    @84greenbear 2 года назад +2

    The original foot peg design was made so that the foot pegs actually swung away if bumping into rocks or stumps etc.

  • @kaptainkmann7808
    @kaptainkmann7808 2 года назад +1

    the video gets a thumbs up but that outtake at the end get's an even bigger one 👍, I'll be looking forward to all of it. 2022 here the F we R .

  • @jamesclark2372
    @jamesclark2372 2 года назад

    I have an old rokon, not sure of the year, and will switch out the engine for a four cycle 5 or so hp. I rode this thing four years before the 2 cycle gave up. Rokons are not a motorcycle but the fun is there.

  • @ervingoertzen7233
    @ervingoertzen7233 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely, John , Ike and Charles ! Love your contents , you three have great videos looking for more coming !

  • @mrfarmer532
    @mrfarmer532 2 года назад

    I never - Ever - thought that I’d be rooting for a Rokon to break a lap record 🤠👍🏼

  • @dougfuqua7868
    @dougfuqua7868 2 года назад +2

    Happy New Year !
    To Cars n Camera's and everyone watching !

  • @oicu812kc
    @oicu812kc 2 года назад +1

    Great job guys!! As always, great video, and youre right, Charles is a great addition to the team. thank you 3!

  • @JohnHill-jm7tm
    @JohnHill-jm7tm 2 года назад +2

    Another great video guys. This Old Man really enjoying watching on my new 70 inch tv in the ManCave. Hope 2022 is great year for you all. Love you guys. 🛵🧔💝💝💝

  • @theplinkerslodge6361
    @theplinkerslodge6361 2 года назад +2

    More Rokon, please. Great vids, guys. Happy New Year to all of you...

  • @Timmy6216
    @Timmy6216 2 года назад

    That bike is a bucket list toy for me . I need one to build into somthing everso slightly more better. Keep it coming boys!

  • @rustyrails3225
    @rustyrails3225 2 года назад

    That rokon rocks. Keep it going guys.

  • @edwardbrindley7572
    @edwardbrindley7572 2 года назад

    Those Rokons can take a beating, hunters used them back in my youth, great way to truck up a logging road..

  • @westho7314
    @westho7314 2 года назад

    The original engine was a 2 stroke manufactured by Chrysler/Dodge if i remember correctly, a 2 stroke could run consistant up very steep inclines, sideways or upside down. swapping out for a Briggs is dodgy at best, The last of water cooled japan 2 strokes with a quiet exhaust are likely the best choice for this application. or a properly geared crf 250-300cc thumper would work quite well too. i rode a Rokon 2wd trail blazer for first time in 1962 or 63, amazing how far you could go on a tank & both tires full of petrol which made for great traction too.

  • @bluemarcum2311
    @bluemarcum2311 2 года назад

    It's called the rokon trail breaker. I've ridding one. They are bad ass. A 60 degree slope... no problem it'll litterly climb a tree. They originally came with a Chrysler industrial 2 stroke engine in that vintage.

  • @bobstrades1
    @bobstrades1 2 года назад +1

    1.02 million subs? Wow Big Congrats to C&C What a great start to 2022!

  • @dericknewton9552
    @dericknewton9552 2 года назад +1

    The Rokon looks sick bet it would be fun to drive down a creek with. You could see who does the fastest creek run.

  • @justinwatch
    @justinwatch 2 года назад +2

    John, I'm proud of you. You've been keeping your unibrow trimmed. You're not so janky looking.

  • @williamcummings6562
    @williamcummings6562 2 года назад

    I wanted one of those since I was a kid. Too cool!

  • @jaredmcquiniff5362
    @jaredmcquiniff5362 2 года назад +1

    I love those old rokons! You guys did a great job with this one! Love y’all, keep up the badassery!

  • @jonnyretro2235
    @jonnyretro2235 2 года назад

    This channel is still going & growing in the right direction. Keep up the good work lads!

  • @sweeneysweeney1901
    @sweeneysweeney1901 2 года назад +2

    Happy new years guys , glad to see Charles hanging in there. Here's to another great year and our Busco trips🍻

  • @sandmanbub
    @sandmanbub 2 года назад +1

    Nice ending John and I want to wish you, Ike and Charles a Happy and exciting new year. Stay safe!

  • @Imarookieatthis
    @Imarookieatthis 2 года назад

    That bike has so much potential. Just throwing a idea out there “camp side bike”. You set up your tent/rv and do all the trail exploring on that bike fully re build and set up for the tasks.

  • @guitarzan0515
    @guitarzan0515 2 года назад

    I’m with Robert T. The true test will be “climbing stuff! AWSOME guys!!!

  • @billysimmons4164
    @billysimmons4164 2 года назад

    the C&C Science lab is at it once again!!!

  • @michaelmarchei8539
    @michaelmarchei8539 2 года назад

    Bring back the ducarti guys 🙏🙏👊👊 love seeing the channel grow. Been an endless source of
    Entertainment for me
    🙏🙏👊👊 cheers from Perth west Australia 🇦🇺

  • @briantilton4025
    @briantilton4025 2 года назад

    Don’t leave out shop build videos. Would love to see the process of setting it up.

  • @InnocentMiscreant
    @InnocentMiscreant 2 года назад +1

    It would be awesome to see fresh lap times in the same track conditions

  • @YourOwnWay
    @YourOwnWay 2 года назад

    That thing is a radical monster! I want one!

  • @thebaconbrotato
    @thebaconbrotato 2 года назад

    Thank you! I've been asking for some sort of course maintenance for a while. Make it safer for you boys to go and rip it.

  • @jhaedtler
    @jhaedtler 2 года назад +1

    let some air out of the tires! Love the gas tank mount!

  • @musicauthority703
    @musicauthority703 2 года назад +2

    Considering that it's a two wheel drive bike with no suspension. and those tire's and wheels have so much unsprung weight. it set a respectable top speed and laps on the racecourse. a good CVT system is the way to go I swear by them. my go kart launches real well and has an incredible top speed.

    • @topkek7003
      @topkek7003 2 года назад

      my go kart moves alright off a dig and tops out at about 5000 rpm at 55mph

  • @cliffpalermo
    @cliffpalermo 2 года назад

    Cool bike remember them from the back of popular mechanics as a kid.

  • @texanky
    @texanky 2 года назад

    This rokon reminded me of a rokon 340cc enduro that I rode in a Tx enduro back in the 70s.

  • @ralphtaylor3796
    @ralphtaylor3796 2 года назад

    the rocon is a beast, if done right.
    happy who year.

  • @ROKON-2x2
    @ROKON-2x2 Год назад

    ROKON RULES 🤙

  • @cconnon1912
    @cconnon1912 2 года назад

    Rokon is cool. They were geared very low from what I understand. I first read about them when some people used them to cross the Darian Gap (no roads) thick jungle between North and South America back in the late 60s I believe.

  • @bradensmith888
    @bradensmith888 2 года назад

    It was so crazy to see Ed from Matt's Off Road Recovery working on his Rokon shortly after you guys revived yours

  • @shaderblue2555
    @shaderblue2555 2 года назад

    With a little fit and finish this could be a really trick utility bike, great job!!

  • @ProlificInvention
    @ProlificInvention 2 года назад

    All in for the Rokon, frickin love those things.

  • @ryanbollerud8792
    @ryanbollerud8792 2 года назад +4

    I love the channel. Charles is a natural fit with the show. I can't wait for the builds coming up! I can only imagine once you get the shop built out. Will they still initially build/plan projects on the floor? That's the question lol 💯

  • @terryou812
    @terryou812 2 года назад +3

    I always love your vids. The exhaust work it's pretty slick. It'd be cool if it came out the end where the tail light was but it works well.
    Looking forward to the new upcoming ambitious projects. nice job guys!!👍👍

  • @MainAvel
    @MainAvel Год назад

    what I find impressive is that they still make these

  • @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269
    @lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 2 года назад

    Thanks for being legends!

  • @joeolson9763
    @joeolson9763 2 года назад

    I love that Rokon! Cool cool bike! I’d like to see more rock crawling with it.

  • @TheBiggestRedneck
    @TheBiggestRedneck 2 года назад

    Yall Definitely Should Get Some of The Same Tables That Red Beard Uses In His Shop To Build Stuff

  • @blahorgaslisk7763
    @blahorgaslisk7763 2 года назад

    Before today I'd never heard of this bike. Well at least not that I can remember. But YT threw a couple of links in the sidebar that looked interesting, including one from Jay Leno. So I've been watching some of these and it was interesting. The Rokon you've got seems to be a quite early model. I base that on the lack of any kind of suspension while the more modern versions has suspension on the front wheel. The large wheels are also an older thing as they since switched to slightly smaller wheels with less storage space in the hubs. Yes, that's a thing... Finally the two speed gearbox has been replaced with a three speed version. Early models had a two stroke engine that revved a lot higher than the four stroke Brigs you used, which is why the gearing was a bit off.
    Well it was all of that, and the fact that it was said in the first video that this had been abandoned for twenty years or so...
    It would be interesting if you could find someone who has a newer model that you could have a look at and compare ride quality and capabilities. Even the latest tops out around something like 30 or 35 MPH so it would probably not be all that much faster around the track than the one you've got. It would still be interesting to see how much of a difference the changes has made. Putting it on a scale would also be interesting.

  • @martinkrijnen
    @martinkrijnen 2 года назад +1

    Charles is an awsome edition, great pick!

  • @hardcorebeats8270
    @hardcorebeats8270 2 года назад +1

    Keep on at it boys, we love you guys.

  • @cletusharper403
    @cletusharper403 2 года назад

    Great rokon group on FB, comet clutches are all the rage

  • @albertpeterson7134
    @albertpeterson7134 2 года назад

    I Would Definitely Like See More Content On The Rokon

  • @cortedemico
    @cortedemico 2 года назад

    14:22 now that's a *_NICE_* segue...

  • @rugbyguitargod
    @rugbyguitargod 2 года назад

    Hotlapped it and shaved (chopped) 5 seconds off. Well done, Ike!! You are indeed a madman lol

  • @bevis226
    @bevis226 2 года назад

    Should build a flathead for in it. Bullet rod with bearing insert, shave the head and either put new NOS briggs rings in it or an aftermarket performance piston kit. It would give it a bit more grunt and make it alot more reliable.

  • @noskatehate
    @noskatehate 2 года назад

    Ike's exhaust was quite impressive!

  • @wethepeople6642
    @wethepeople6642 2 года назад

    Definitely need more Rokon videos! 💯👏🤘

  • @chuckbowen5024
    @chuckbowen5024 2 года назад

    I would love to come upon a deal like that. They want almost as much for a new Rokon as I paid for my Honda Pioneer. I may have to dig through my shelf of gearboxes to see what I can come up with. I'll bet one of those Lifan 125cc engines with the 4 speed would be useful. Marry that up to a hi/low gear box and add a set of shocks... Where's my notebook!

  • @xnorcal831x
    @xnorcal831x 2 года назад +1

    Build a mad max style thing. BUT it needs to be part bike, part kart and part 3 wheeler. All extras are helpful lawn mowers,weed eaters, generators and any small engine are allowed. Each person makes machine. If possible have someone help each other as they do the build. Then do a coarse. Fastest lap, steep hill climb, track,jump then best looking design.