I think INFP and INFJ are very close I have taken the test twice and one time the test came back INFP, but at that time in my life I was just fired from a really good day job and I answered the questions about routine differently LOL.
@@jessebreakspear6656 I always test as an INFP and obviously a lot of things do match, but theres a few really significant differences where I always felt INFP doesnt quite hit the spot. did a cognitive function test (as those are very different for infp and infj) and it turns out i share my most dominant functions with INFJ. also, same boat, unemployed currently and therefore currently more on the perceptive than on the judging side, but generally prefer having at least a rough plan/idea for everything to come.
I feel like we’re the same person. 😅 I’m in a phase of deep autism research…. On the verge of finally self-diagnosing. Trying to find enough (way too much) evidence to just take that plunge already. My road has been INFJ to Highly Sensitive Person to possibly autistic. (Oh, and I’m a therapist, too. So studying others is like my one and only interest.)
@honey I love it! It has its ups and downs, of course, but it’s the right fit for me. Especially now that I have a private practice and work for myself, at home! It’s taken me a while to find my groove in it officially, but now that I have it’s great.
@honey so, I don’t think I feel comfortable putting any contact info on here, but if you’d like to send me your email or something I can reach out. Or I can answer questions on here if there’s something specific you’re thinking.
Also an INFJ currently over self-diagnosing and looking at too much info on autism but not bringing it up for diagnosis... and did I mention I too am in my first year of being a therapist lol
Well I'm not on my way to being a therapist but I am an INFJ and I find people endlessly fascinating. I want to get to know many different people and learn all about them. I have taken psychology just at university 1 level but I didn't finish, I also took part of sociology too which I loved too. I wanted to do philosophy too but I was told by a family member that it was too many arts I think and that I should take something different.
I think most autistic women find an interest in personality types and psychology as a whole out of desperation trying to make sense of people 😂😭 and I've thought this too for a while now that there is a strong correlation with being infj and autistic! 😊👍
No, that's just a lot of women in general. Same with horoscopes and the like. Myers-Briggs is pseudo-science. That's not a denigration of women, there are a lot of societal reasons behind why women tend to gravitate to one form of pseudoscience and men tend to gravitate toward other forms of pseudo-science.
@@wellesradioScience is constantly changing, though. What was scientifically proven years ago, may change at any time. New research, new discoveries, ever evolving. This is why I'm in the field. It's exciting to me because the possibilities are endless. Food for thought.
My wife thinks I might be autistic. I'm an INFJ. Rules about manhood, masculinity and femininity don't make sense to me. Rules about socializing stress me out and confuse me. I hated dating for these reasons.
INFJ here too! Also autistic. As far as I am concerned, your metaphor for swimming out to the deeper water really resonates with me. It’s so hard to find someone else who wants to go that deep with us. I feel like so many people are content to live their lives in the shallow end, and that’s so completely unfulfilling in my opinion. When I rarely find someone who wants to go deep, it feels like my soul has found some sustenance after having been starved for a long time. I totally appreciate you putting the feeling into words! Thanks for this video. As soon as I saw that someone had done a video on both the INFJ type, as well as autism, I was all over this video. Thank you for putting those things together, because I’ve always had a gut feeling that us INFJs are probably heavily correlated with autism. It’s really validating to hear another autistic person giving voice to the theory! I also believe that the Highly Sensitive Person framework in psychology also heavily correlates to autism as well, but that’s a digression. 😉
SIM!!! EU TAMBEM PENSO DA MESMA FORMA! Sempre achei que infjs fossem autistas empáticos e eu penso nisso há 1 ano todos os dias da minha vida. Não tem vídeos como esse no RUclips brasileiro, infelizmente.
This video literally helped me realize that my pattern of hyper focusing as an autistic person literally makes it so that I'm a fixer, I obsess over helping, studying and analyzing people to help them heal and connect with themselves and I never get it reciprocated. It's because my brain can go so deep. Thank you for this you're so awesome
I’m actually an INTJ, but I believe that since the functions are so similar that it’s a similar situation. The whole “studying people from our own home” was definitely something that I can see in myself.
I have scored as INTJ and INFJ. Is because the Ni function, that has a lot to do with the video and being sort of autistic (asperger maybe). That freaking intuition throwing information out of the blue whatever you are, connecting dots where you never though it was possible. If you tap into that function fully inmersed on it, you pretty much are playing in your head like if it was your own matrix. What can be more autistic than that? I believe the difference between INTJ's and INFJ's is only the stuff we are attracted to. FJ's are por into peoples behaviour, TJ's into systems like mechanics, electronics, computers or someting you can form systems with
Very interesting- at work INTJ traits seem to be at play- However, at home or doing research etc I am an INFJ/ ADHD/ OCD/ Dyslexic - These are not weaknesses - strengths but it took many yrs to be okay with such! Social Worker and Clinical Therapist- Rational Emotive therapy and teaching are my most effective and affective interventions- hobby anything with numbers!
Those of us who are either Extroverted Intuitives or Introverted Intuitives frequently fall in the tism, ADHD range of life. Must be intuitive functions fault. Anybody want to switch types?
I'm also an INTJ, I've always been obsessed with getting things perfect, and getting things to work perfectly, it's both a positive, and negative trait
I am also INFJ/Autistic/ADHD/High IQ!!!! I am so glad you made this video! So you understand: ADHD vs. ASD balance, INFJ vs. ASD nuances, and how INFJ+ASD+High IQ can be used to 3rd eye into people's heads via intellect and validated via intuition/energies!? I am litterally shaking right now. I have SO MANY questions!
My mother suspects I may have a high iq (alot of people in our family do) and I suspect I may have autism. When I was getting diagnosed with adhd apparently they got me checked out for autism too. I hope I can get myself checked again, because I've lost alot of sleep obsessing over it, lol
Nah you are not. Myers-Briggs is bullshit no one with high IQ would believe it. Prolly self-diagnosed ASD and ADHD and high IQ from internet IQ test. Nobody with high IQ would believe something like 3rd eye even exists.
This video has been extremely validating to watch. That part where you highlighted how isolating/lonely it is to be the INFJ person that's constantly doing the mental load for others, but not being able to get the same support in return. In relationships (familial, romantic, platonic) I like that I bring clarity and understanding to others. I dont mind being "that" person in any dynamic. But the downside is, like every other human, I'm not always my 100%. Sometimes I need a me to be there for me, to come in read the room and give me a new fresh perspective. The video however kind of scratch that itch alittle.
Just as an aside..if you do want to find someone who can " see" you as an INFJ at least..find a developed INFP to talk to. It's the only Myers Briggs personality type that I have found that has the depth of feeling that an INFJ has and also has the extroverted intuition that is able to put all your feelings in context and translate them back to you. Due to introverted sensing they have incredible maps of your internal state of being and they remember it forever! I have two of these people in my life and the stuff that they tell me about myself is new and spot on. They like INFJs because we live in the feelings space but through a more logic based way so we can ground them and give them practical advice.
yeah infps are great both as friends and as partners for infjs, since both of them like to go deep in the things, especially with feelings and analysing the world and people even if infjs do it in both logically and feeling way that help infps to not be too impulsive. but i also think that other great friends/partners are intjs and enfps, especially those last ones since many time enfps are linked to the adhd and autism and adhd share some traits in common
This description is spot on, wow. I feel like INFJs look right through me, its almost creepy sometimes. ^^ But you put it in so warm words... =) I also want to recommend ESTPs to you. They will admire you for your deep dives and soak it up like a sponge. And they may take you diving in the real sea in return. ; ) As your Duals (socionics) they can be very easy to be around for you and that may be extra beneficial for us autistic people.
You are absolutely correct. I'm six years older than my INFP sister but goddamn their emotional intelligence has no bounds. I feel out of depth when it comes to all the personal feelings and things she keeps close to her chest. She hates it when I try to pry because it's something personal for her but she does not mind me ranting on about my favorite things for hours. We have very similar interests and it feels like a dream, the way we interact with each other... it's like we're speaking english but not. We're speaking through feelings and empathy and it's insane. She's the only one who understands me completely, maybe not entirely, but more than most people
INTP here. I’ve always stumbled across the link between INTP, INFJ and being on the spectrum. There are a lot of similarities of being and INTP and ASD, I’m newly DX’d. I guess I have always understood the link of neurology and personality, thanks to Dario Nardi, but I always dismissed everything as being an INTP. I’m also got ADHD, and the more I’ve delved into understanding adult neurodivergence, the more my struggles and strengths in life make sense and I feel like I found that part I was missing to complete the puzzle of me. But now so realize I don’t know who “me” is. MBTI softened the shock, I think. When you’re a rare type, you’re used to being different than everyone else.
So, curveball, maybe you just are an INTP and society is way too narrow in its ways of defining how a normal person looks like. It is about numbers, because there are so few inuitives, they are not counted into the "statistics" of what makes up a standard human (I think those are pretty outdated as well), and so it is a sensory way of making sense of people who deviate. Really, in my point of view, it is one of the newer cases of discrimination on a larger scale, that so many (if not all) creatives and independent thinkers are given labels of ADHD and ASD. Anyway, don't let my way of viewing it all get in the way of your process.
I'm also INTP and I remember noticing how many stereotypical autistic traits are featured in INTP, even if I thought I was just a nerd in my teen years
Also INTP, specifically INTP-T. I also noticed that a lot of the characteristics describe symptoms of ASD and some ADHD in the case of turbulence vs assertiveness.
I know I am a introverted intuitive … I have the lack of time sense of a perceiver … in fact, I am completely time blind … The rest is murky … Although the description you read of the INFJ *does* sound like me … Also - your father sounds a lot like mine - I had the same reaction you did …money can’t buy happiness - and it certainly doesn’t make up for abuse ! Additionally, it made me feel the money was more important to him than I was … and that he was trying to *buy* my good opinion instead of earning it - which my father very much failed to do … Thanks for the excellent video - it really does have the effect you described at the end …
I’ve never felt so understood in my life, I nearly cried. I am an infj and I suspect that I am have adhd and also on the spectrum as well! Psychology has always been my special interest and I’ve been going crazy with the autism research 😅. Thank you for this video
INFP self-diagnosed AuDHD here! I think the reason I am INFP over INFJ is because of my ADHD and how that relates to my autism specifically. My brain seems to be in conflict with each other a lot. My autistic side thrives on structure while my ADHD side just can't stick to schedules cause if I miss my next task by even a minute, the entire schedule is ruined and my autistic side kicks in and panics thinking the entire day is ruined. It's not fun LOOOOOOL I noticed you have a planner on your Etsy for helping people like me stick to routines that both feeds the autistic need for structure and my ADHD need for flexibility within that structure (if that doesn't make sense let me know cause that seems like a paradox LOOL).
@Koharu Macchiato That planner looks interesting. Need the structure and flexibility combo too as energy and focus fluctuates so much. On the Myers’s Briggs I am not always the same, sometimes INFJ, INFP, others but high on autistic traits. Not sure about ADHD. It’s been challenging needing structure and a lot of flexibility too. Similar to you.
I was also obsessed with personality tests at some point and this is how I found out I am INFJ. I agree with you about people complicating everything and about the simplicity of life. I relate to writing a book about people in my head as well! And yes we feel so deeply. I also agree about layers people put on and hiding themselves. It's really frustrating to interact with people's layers rather than their true core selves. And this sense of not being seen myself, this is so true! I feel nobody in the whole entire world actually knows me. I also have no problem with constructive criticism because as you said, it's information. And yes, there is no space for me to open up even with the therapist!
I was an INTJ while I was in the Navy but after retirement my mask came crashing down and I realized I was autistic (my psychologist clued me in on that one,) and I realized I was an INFJ as well. I forced the “T” I.e., “thinking” as part of my mask because I had to in order to survive but I burned out from masking for years.
hello! you technically can't change mbti as mbti is about cognitive functions... not letter ditchtonomies. infjs can be disorganized, they can be extroverted, they can seem 'cold' and value 'logic'.... bc it's not about letter ditchtonomies. What this video, 16p in general, is describing, is more closely resembling the big 5 theory but using mbti ditchtonomies. mbti is about how you process information... you have a dominant function, auxiliary, tertiary and inferior. there are TWO axis - PERCEVING - which can be either through intuition or sensing (we ALL use both) and JUDGING - which is either thinking or feeling (again everyone uses all 4) your dominat inferior function will be the opposite function of your dominat one (so infjs are perceiving, intuition first, so their last function is sensing - both are perceiving functions) your second and third function will be from the opposite axis from your dom/inf, so for infjs it is judging (feeling, thinking) the feeling, thinking and sensing, intuition functions, also come in additional flavours. let's call them attitudes, your attitude can be either extroverted (objective) or introverted (subjective) so sensing can be either objective (extroverted sensing) or subjective (introverted sensing) the opposite function of the same axis will have the opposite attitude. so if you have EXTROVERTED sensing, you will have INTROVERTED intuition. infjs, are actually perceiving dominant types, they perceive the world first, judge after. the 'i'tells us the dominant function is subjective, the N and F tell us their first two functions will be intuition and feeling. we know intution is a perceving function (p), and as nonsensical as it might seem this means the J/P will be switched for INTROVERTED TYPES ONLY. so Ni is a Pi function, in the Ni Dom's their letter type switches,, =>ixxjs are perceving doms, ixxps are judging doms. so we know infjs have introverted intuition as their first function, the auxiliary function's (or the letter indicator that isn't the dominant one => F in infj) it's attitude will be the opposite from the dominant one, so it will be extroverted for the infjs' feeling function. hence they also have a introverted thinking function, and a extroverted sensing function last. the s econd and third functions can be used a bit more interchangeably than dominant and inferior functions, which are more polarized. and if you wonder what all these functions even mean, um well that would be a whole new topic, but basically there are eight: judging axis (feeling-thinking): introverted feeling (Fi) accompanied with extroverted thinking (Te) extroverted feeeling (Fe) accompanied with introverted thinking (Ti) perceving axis (sensing-intutition): introverted sensing (Si) accompanied with extroverted intution (Ne) extroverted sensing (Se) accompanied with introverted intution (Ni) have fun in the journey if you do decide to take it 😅😅😅 I know it can be a bit daunting just thought I'd clear up smt even though it's an EXTREMLY common misconception! /lh
I am a highly sensitive autistic and ADHD individual. I'm glad you brought up energy reading. I've been an energy reader, not necessarily by choice, but I adapted to be one because of the environments I've been in as a means of survival. It has only strengthened itself throughout the years. I struggle with direct eye contact, so my peripheral vision, picking up movement and sounds, has also been heightened to accommodate. Overall, I respond to energy more than anything. I hope that makes sense.
I had a friend who would swim into the ocean with me (metaphorically). We grew apart, but he has been the only person I've ever had such a profound connection with. Conversations were fluid and we were honest with each other in ways niether of us had ever known before. I miss him all the time and I dont think I'll ever get that level of understanding with anyone ever again. However, I'm glad i at least got to experience it once. I'm autistic and INFJ and he was ISTP
I have now finished watching this video, and all I can say is that throughout this entire video, I found myself just nodding and saying “Yup.” Over and over again. Everything Irene said resonated so powerfully and deeply with me. Especially the part where she talks about how we always want to make a safe space for others and be that shoulder to lean on when someone is in need, and yet, never having the same energy returned to us. This has been a reoccurring theme in my life since I was very young. I’ve always been the one people run to when they’re in need, and I’ve always been told that I know exactly what to say to help someone through they’re struggles and help them to feel better. Yet, I have never gotten the same returned to me, even when I’ve asked for it or brought it to someone’s attention. To this day in my early 20s, I have yet to have found a community or at least friends that offer a reciprocating energy and requited interest and compassion. As and AuDHD who lives in Texas where the only Autism organization that allistic people listen to and advocate for is Austin Speaks, finding people who understand me has been more than challenging. It’s left me feeling lonely and continually wondering what is wrong with me. Even though my ASD self-diagnosis has brought me so much peace in other aspects of my life, I still don’t understand why I can’t make and keep friends and have deep connections with people, and why they often run from me when I show them my authenticity. Hearing her talk about this in such a way that perfectly describes how I am constantly feeling was so reassuring. To know that I’m not alone in this, and that I’m not “crazy” for feeling this way was so affirming. I can only hope that one day I find that person or group of people that will offer me the same energy I offer them in a space where we are all authentically ourselves. ❤
I am 55 years old. I took the actual Meyers Briggs test in my late 20s and was found to be an INFJ and have always deeply resonated with the result. My only real life exposure to autism was when I was 15, my boyfriend's younger brother was autistic, and exhibited many of the "typical" signs of autism, so I never suspected I may have autism, but recently discovered that i resonate deeply with high masking autism, much more than previous mental health Dx. I am on a waiting list to be tested. I feel like so much of my life makes sense in the light of autism and that I can finally stop trying to change to fit in. Thank you for this video, it is highly validating! Its also good to know others are out here in the deep end, I've felt so alone here for so long, everyone I know prefers much shallower water 💧 💙 😊
I am an INFJ, self assessed ASD in late adulthood, and HSP. I’ve probably been deeply masking my whole life. It is so refreshing to watch your videos and finally hear someone express the thoughts and feelings I’ve been carrying alone in my life.
24:07 - 25:09 omg this! People really tend to put on layers when they're in a large group and I feel really bothered by it. I would be sitting or standing there and thinking to myself like -- That's not how you normally act, Susan, snap out of it! By the way, as an INFJ/autistic person, everything you describe here is absolutely bang on. Thanks for such an insightful video!
This video is a feat of communication… I’ve been thinking about energy lately and how autistic people can spot discrepancies between energy and words/presentation. Everything in this video was on point. Being misunderstood is tiring, and it’s discouraging when people seem to be limited in their empathy/imagination/ability to perspective-shift and too mentally tired to join you. You made sense the entire video haha
I feel this so hard. I’m obsessed with Myers Briggs and other tests and I often ask people up front if they know their types. For people I’ve known a long time, I’ll ask if I can give them the test.
Your video was the first one I came across when finally searching for INFJ and autism. I have known I was an INFJ for many years but only realized I was Autistic and ADHD recently. Everything makes so much more sense to me now. I particularly resonate with the intuitive part where someone is presenting a certain way but you can tell their internal energy does not align with their external presentation. When I was younger I would "mess up" sometimes and reveal that I knew something of what was going on with the person and the result was always fear and then what usually followed was hostility. This I still don't understand because hostility seems like the opposite of what is logically needed. Mostly I learned not to tell anyone what I knew which leads to your other statement of feeling very misunderstood. Does this resonate with any other autistics or INFJs? On the plus side I have found some people including my partner who do see me clearly and these people are gifts beyond anything I can measure.
Omg... yes to accidentally adressing or god forbid instinctively/impulsively asking when someone is visibly upset, freaking out, scared, etc... 😅 Suddenly they are yelling and whoah man... ok sorry. Had no idea how invasive people see talking about real time feelings.... like communication is the goal right? Or they might find that asking can really harm their attempts to cope or pretend for the sake of maintaining social norms 🤔 I later realized people take time to process what they feel, and that delay is different from person to person, and from situation to situation. Its like a landmine, but I later learned that counceling techniques, motivational interviewing, and "holding space" approaches really help when addressing these things with people. I am ASD, ADHD, and INFJ too 😊 Sometimes knowing and reading too much causes social problems 😅
Thanks for sharing, your last sentence reminds me to remain hopeful. I remember telling a girl in HS who was supposed to be my friend that I wish I was blind. Because I was genuinely confused and so alone feeling like I could see right through people while everyone else accepts what everyone presents. And I had to watch my friends hug my English teacher, asking me why don't I give him a hug too, who caught a case a few years after we graduated for an ongoing relationship with a student. To this day everyone thinks I'm a very cold person.
Welcome to the club, lol ! I’m a 59 yr old highly functional autistic, Dominant/introvert Sigma INFJ-T Heyoka autodidact myself. Highly creative in the arts/music, behavioral psychology, and honestly, creative in every possible way at all times, but have always been extremely camera and recording shy. Very few pictures exist of me, no matter how much family and friends have tried to ambush me, mostly to no avail because I have extremely fast reflexes as well. I have no idea how you stand recording yourself for RUclips, let alone perfecting it for public consumption ? My humility is extremely stifling when it comes to myself. It’s nice to not feel alone and crazy though, seeing your videos. I often use sayings I’ve coined like, “ Fame and fortune is a gilded cage of your own creation “, “ trust no source and question absolutely everything, especially yourself “, and “ never trust academia “. I knew academics couldn’t be trusted before kindergarten. I proved the pseudoscience of psychology incorrect at utilized base level theories within the first two weeks of my double major. How do you continue with manipulative programming throughout academic studies, especially when you discover the professors also know this yet must push the materials given or lose possibly everything they’ve worked so hard to achieve, including family, friends, employment, possibly leading to imprisonment because the powers are so great ? My career focuses and changes usually last approximately two to three years, of which I always excel at, yet must get out before I compromise my morals and values to much. Once I no longer find things within the systems for me to modify or challenges to test and push myself in, I feel no more need for me, and must seek change. Do these things ring bells for you ?
ENFP here. Adhd and Autistic who has always been super interested in MBTI and all things psychologically really. ( btw- ENFP is actually an INFJ inside out.) Thank you for your videos so much. Truly, thank you ❤
Pattern recognition as intuition makes so much sense to me. I tend to identify patterns at lot sooner than most people whether visually or in behavior. A lot of people tell me I’m just spitballing but to me it’s intuitive and can be traced if you pay enough attention to repetition.
Wow this is spot on for me! I just found out about autism and thought.. um I thought that was just being an INFJ 😆. My special interest of psychology makes so much sense now. Everything you said was 100% accurate to me. I even have a photography buisness so the list of what I need and the times was funny
The pattern recognition really describes what I do too . One on one is best for me …I’m an INFJ and I’m wondering how autism fits in with me. I struggle with making friends. But want to help anyone if I can. To avoid burnout I have to make a list of 3 things per day to accomplish … and I’m also a perfectionist …so if I don’t get the 3 things done , I have to try to not beat myself up . I have days where I just need to rest. You video resonates with me 100%! Thank you
I recently got diagnosed with autism, and I'm an ENFJ 2w1! It's interesting for me to think about my personality type and why I prefer the functions FeNi (enfj). I think my preference for Fe comes from the fact that I'm constantly needing to know and understand people and what's going on with them. My eyes are always on people and how to interact with them and care for them and how to be able to communicate and get everyone on the same page. My Ni is constantly running in the background and taking in every ounce of more subtle information it can and is neatly organizing it and making sense of what I'm experiencing outwardly, inwardly. And that, to me, is such an autistic sounding feeling and experience, which I think is super fascinating and interesting. It just all lines up so well for me, and I love that. Btw, you make amazing content, and I find a lot of useful information in it and a lot of relatability in it as well!
I have always struggled with that deep sense of loneliness you described, especially when sleeping next to a significant other who I sensed would/could never understand me... I am so grateful you articulated this experience (and I really appreciate the imagery), as for the first time I am hopeful; You show that it IS possible to find others who think like this (the comments show there are at least several of us 😅), others who could understand and really see me 🤗
I resonate with this 100%. I’m an infj and just now, at 51, self diagnosed as autistic. This video is the first time I’ve heard someone articulate my inner world. Thank you so much!
I receive enjoyed your video.🥰💯👏🏼 I am INFJ. Your comparison of autism and INFJ is on point. I am on the spectrum. I resonate with everything you said. Blessings Beautiful Irene.🙏🏼😇❤️🌺
I would change “weaknesses” with “risks”. Because, as an old-ish INFJ, I can see how it is useful (albeit tiring) to keep being vigilant on those aspects in order to be always ready to grasp the opportunity to grow. There’s a balance to find, of course, because one cannot always be on self-questioning mode. It’s very important to prune superficial judgments, I just want to underline the importance of keeping ourselves flexible. INFJs are very wise, but it’s always useful to ask ourselves how to improve our range of view. I tell myself that if I am too comfortable dismissing a concept, I should allow myself 5 more minutes to think about it. I love to poke myself like that. Poor me. I need rest 🥲 Oh yeah I forgot. Would totally watch a part 2. Also, Laughed hard in different parts. It’s nice to see you are getting comfortable :)
Your videos resonate with me so much. The paradox of being autistic and having ADHD and I’m also INFJ. I’m self diagnosed and still sometimes wonder if I’m right about myself, and then watching your videos and reading about other peoples experiences, it then reinforces my self diagnosis. Thank you for putting so much thought and energy into helping others like you understand ourselves.
I am an INTP and ADHD. My therapist said I have several autistic traits too but not diagnosed. It seems many autistic people are INxx. Introverted and extraverted intuition is great at pattern recognition. Then again ISTJ seems sterotypically autistic in a way as Si likes routine. I think Paige Layle is an ISTJ. Also INFJs are one of my favourite types ^_^ and I love the bird sounds in your video. Great analysis. MBTI is one of my special interests!
I wonder if there’s actually a higher frequency of INXXs on the spectrum, or if the weaknesses of our personality types compound the issues we face and make it more likely we would reach the point where we would feel the need to seek help and diagnosis. We’re definitely more likely to be on the internet researching and discussing it than other types. I can’t help but imagine that the ESXXs’ personality traits might compensate for their difficulties. I know personally for me as an INTP I already am not that interested in what is going on around me and ADHD only makes it that much more difficult to focus on those things when I have to.
I don’t even know where to begin, I’ve never related to someone more than you, it’s like watching myself it’s so wild!! Also an INFJ, your videos are so amazing and important and I’m so grateful to have found you 💖 you’ve definitely prompted me to find a good therapist to diagnose me!
I remember seeing a Dan Akroyd interview (before I knew I was on the spectrum) and I was all like "I can't put my finger on it but he reminds me of me" I don't know if he's an INFJ personality but he's famously on the spectrum. anyways it's more good than bad to get diagnosed. I mean for me at least, it was very sad at first because if I knew sooner It would have saved me a lot of suffering. but once you get all that drama over with it's actually quite funny because all my close friends and family were like "yeah tell me something I don't know" anyways "preaching to the choir now probably I know" long story short I felt kind of lost before I was diagnosed LOL seriously I was starting to wonder if I was an alien abductee or something.😆
Same! Ever since discovering what Autism was, and having it describe my character traits, whenever I watch a video discussing the topic it always resonates deeply. It's so comforting knowing I wasn't just odd, strange, rejected for no reason, misunderstanding so much for no reason, social anxiety etc. Unfortunately I don't know anyone in my life that is similar.
This is my first time watching one of your videos, I was searching for the coorelation of INFJ and Autisim (specally on women) because I'm an INFJ and possible Autistic (not yet diagnosed) and this video popup, OMG I can relate with a lot of your toughts, it make me feel really validated, and you put somethings into word that I always thought, but never spoke to anybody about, and it feels so good, it's comforting. Thank you! You defently gaind a new viewer (Sorry if its worded werid, english is not my frist language)
Sending you love💗 & wanting to talk more about this topic in the future. Probably in my members-only episodes since it’s probably not a common experience!
Heard about these tests so I went through it. Result was INFJ-T. Which lead me here because I heavily suspect I have Autism because everything makes perfect sense about it, and it's so familiar. Interested to hear about the possible link in this video. Lesss gooooo! XD
I’ve recently felt a connection with autism. I’m INFP and enneagram type 4. I love personality tests, after I found enneagram I tried to get everyone at my job to take it and it helped me categorize and feel more comfortable socializing. I love your videos! Thank you for posting
You’ve described me. I’m an INFJ and most likely autistic. I can relate to pretty much everything you read about INFJ’s and how you experience those traits and aspects.
Wowww I was told recently by my therapist that he thought I had ASD (I was diagnosed with ADHD years ago), so I've been researching ASD traits/symptoms online and came across your channel. I'm INFJ too!!! So interesting... More evidence that my therapist was correct 😂.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I don't really jive with the Myers-Briggs because of the way it was used at my university, but I I like the way you use it as a frame for discussion.
Oh my gosh, preach girl about the disdain for slacking co-workers or workers in general. I feel this sooooo much. I think this is something for sure that resonates with me and my autism.
It’s not just autism for infj but all those types of issues including ADHD. I have concluded that our brain chemistry is different and likely creates side effects to other aspects of our brain processing I mention adhd because that is my issue and being an infj Neurodiversity baby that’s our jam!!!!!
Here's my tangent: Oh my goodness, people not working at work has always been a issue for me to accept (especially people being on thier phone) because the work will fall to other people & there seems to be little concern for coworkers. This was a great one, thank you for the work you put into your channel & the ND community 💜
Really loved how you went through this step by step and shared your own experience! Gotta admit that since my diagnosis I haven't made a connection between my ASD and the absolutely relentless INFJ outcomes of every Meyers-Briggs-ish test I took, but now it just makes so much sense.
"Life is so simple, people are so simple" OMG, it's like hearing myself talking! I'm also an INFJ and my therapist thinks I might be autistic. I'm 33 and really need some answers and better understanding of myself and you are helping me with that. No more masking for me!! Thank you!!
43:33 My mouth is hanging open. Most of my therapists haven’t really furthered my progression that much. Only a few times has a therapist taught me something new about myself. I could count the amount of times that has happened on one hand. I find that when a therapist says “I’ve noticed this thing about your situation” and they’re expecting me to be taken aback, but I respond with “I’m glad you noticed that too.” My current therapist has me doing worksheets all the time that I insist I do not need to do. I’ve done a values sheet three times with her. And throughout the whole process, I’m just bored because I’ve spent years of reflecting on my values so deeply that people complain that I’m picky. It almost feels like I’m the therapist. I’d love to have a therapy experience where I actually get therapy. I wonder if autistic people with autistic therapists have better therapy experiences?
Finally someone to address the similarities between autism and infj.as an infj I recognized the pattern I personally view autism as the hidden strength that made modern civilization possible. There are actually very little people really able to make things happen.
Meyers-Briggs is a personality inventory where they came up with 4 categories that could each be in two states and asked people to sort themselves into them. It doesn't have any magical explanatory power but it's a perfectly fine tool to help people describe themselves, and that's great!
Glad to find you. ❤ I recently was screened for Autism and likely to have it-just waiting for an assessment now. Was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, so went through most of my life struggling to keep up. I am now 52. The way that I found this video was because I did a search to see if there was a possible correlation between Autism and the INFJ personality type. I’ve been binge watching Frank James (think that’s his last name), and think that he’s hilarious. Anyhow, thank you for sharing your thoughts and observations. I can relate on so many levels. I also feel like it’s very seldom that someone actually “sees” me while I am always holding that space for other people. It’s definitely a superpower. 😅 Loneliness had become so painful for me that I thought it was a foundational flaw. I’d practiced the self-care concept so religiously that when writing about my journey with coming to terms, I was awarded for best essay of the year during my first year of community college (which I didn’t start until I was 31 years old). Thank you again. It’s relieving to have thoughtful information available.
Oh, I so enjoyed listening to you. I’m an INFJ with ADHD and hoping to find a testing center where I can get an autism assessment. I saw the similarities between INFJ and autism so I did a search and found you!! I obviously never met you but connected with you to the point in which I felt I just got off the phone with an old friend. Didn’t think there was anyone out there who felt like I did. Thank you!!
OMG that ocean metaphore hit so hard ... I completely relate to everything you said during the section about feeling like we cant open up to anybody and all the reasons why
Alright… I relate SO hard to this, almost word for word everything you said. Made me realize how glad I am to have a sister who’s also my best friend-she’s always been my “deep dive” buddy and doesn’t hesitate to explore the ocean of tangents/possibilities/meaning with me 🥺
Taking something as info, instead of personally, is me 100%. It’s one of the things that have always baffled me about others. How people can take info & instantly make it a personal attack, baffles my mind.
Can totally relate to the thorough checklists! I could never share my lists with others. I’m too embarrassed by the level of detail bordering on OCD or neuroticism. But I get the most sh*t done out of everyone around me.
INFJ-T here; haven't been diagnosed for anything but all of these characteristics describes me well on how I typically navigate in life, especially in the social aspect. The workplace shit is so relatable. Some co-workers and team leaders tend to dislike me because of my rigid work ethic, some even mock me because I am too serious when it comes to work. I was not "trying" to be serious, it's just how I work and do things. I always end up doing the extra mile but still getting shit on by others. That's why I switched to working from home and just do what I can and must do without drama.
I've never felt Energy like yours, it feels so pure and I connect to it so incredibly deeply. This video truly makes me feel seen. I've always had a passion for understanding people and felt so much deeper and always felt so different to people. I never used to feel comfortable in my own skin but knowing my personality type and coming slowly to the realisation I'm likely autistic feels like the moment of finding that illusive last jigsaw piece after desperate searching. I'm starting to finally see the whole picture and it's so relieving, it makes so much sense. Sorry for the waffle but I genuinely am grateful for you producing this video.❤️
I have 3 children. One is autistic-ADHD, one is ADHD, and the youngest has Asperger’s. I am an INFJ. Only recently have I begun to make the connection for myself. Thanks for the video! This helps!
I am currently hyperfixating on your videos and happened to find this one. I have known I am INFJ for quite some time now but am just now learning that I may be high masking autistic. Your videos have been so helpful to me to really put the information into tangible ways that I can relate to it in my life. I feel like thinking about things abstractly while reading a definition has never really helped me and I am not good at describing, understanding, or even realizing/remembering how I do things. But hearing you talk about how you or other autistic people process things helps me have real "aha" moments and I feel so much less confused on whether I really fit into this group or not.
Fellow INFJ AuDHD (diagnosed and treated ADHD, undiagnosed autism) deep diver here (though for a while I was drowning out there due to EF burnout). I'm new to your channel, and I very much resonate with the content I've been binge-watching thus far. Lots of information has been very helpful for me and reflective. Thank you for that. It's also confirming for me to see more of my autistic traits mirrored back to me here, as they have certainly become more noticeable now that my ADHD is being treated. I've always felt as though there were two very separate parts of me that were at odds with each other: One is spontaneous, impulsive, forgetful, silly, lighthearted, and needs novelty, the other needs routines, organization, and planning, is more serious and technical, perfectionistic, and highly particular. It's interesting because I feel as though the autistic traits masked the ADHD traits (need for routine and planning paired with anxiety around unpredictability led me to be on time for everything through over-preparation, need for a structured environment that is neat and tidy led me to anxiety clean when my EF had gotten bad and things started to get messy/dirty -- I'm realizing at this point I've gone off on a completely unrelated tangent to this video topic, so I'll reign myself back in here). To summarize, I am fascinated to learn more about autism and continue to understand myself more deeply. Thank you for providing relevant and helpful information in an accessible and interesting way through a variety of topics relating to autism.
I'm INFJ too and I related so much with everything you read (and the other parts of the description) the first time I read it. At the time I didn't know I had ADHD and possibly Autism too, and I'm so glad you made this video bc it helped me connect so many dots about myself. I brought it up with my psychiatrist and he just said "I don't see autism" and in my head I was like "yeah, that's the point. You don't see it bc I've been hiding it for three decades!!". I definitely relate to having two very opposing sides in my head - I crave routine but I'm unable to maintain it, love routine but get bored etc... Thank you for all your hard work creating these videos.
I thought I was introverted, but realized maybe I'm just autistic, so I have a desire to be with people and socialize, but I have a literal barrier to it.
Hi ! INFJ ADHD here, autism questioning, your video was so informative and relaxing. The background birds are very pleasant to hear and your voice is very melodic and relaxing to me. Thank you for this
This is SO me. Not only people IRL but as a questioning autistic, I think I'm starting to uncover what my special interests are. I wasn't sure if my interests counted as special interests because i wasnt sure they met the criteria. And a major one is deeply connecting to and 'obsessing' over fictional characters, which has informed how I read people IRL. It's how I've learned social skills besides people watching and a good chunk of my life experience is living vicariously through fictional and real people. It just does something for my brain to find a character I really like and deep dive into WHO they are in the world they're from. I'm INFJ, and there are some points on the INFJ profile that I don't agree with, mostly weaknesses, because I feel like even tho some of them I used to have I've worked hard at improving on those weaknesses so I do.t have them anymore. 🤔 so that's something to consider.
I just wanted to leave you a comment to say that I appreciate your videos. ^-^ I’ve been binge listening while I work and I like hearing your perspective and comparing them to my own experiences. I especially relate to the part where you talk about craving for someone to go out into the depths with you (deep connection in general, but those words in particular resonate with my experience), but no one seems to want to go that far with you. The way you talk about your experiences is relatable; it’s therapeutic to hear about experiences that are similar to yours. While your videos haven’t given me any self-realizations (I’ve figured myself out a fair bit (but there’s always more amirite?)), videos like yours are important because they reach people that NEED to hear this. Your videos would have helped me IMMENSELY as a child, so I know for a fact that they’re helping others. I wish you a good rest of your day/week/month ^-^
Great metaphor with the shoreline. Having lived 50 as an INFJ and undiagnosed autism, it has been a lonely life at times, even when sharing it with lovely people. I have often felt like a proverbial whale, deep diving into the darkness, where even angels fear to tread, in order to glean some insight on the why's? How's? Should've's and could've's of some personal traumatic event, or some other universal question of the ages. To hear you speaking these words and reading the comments of others here, is comforting and heartwarming to know that there ARE others like us out there. With most of us experiencing emotional pain, by virtue of our personality types, I suspect we, if we are honest, prefer to be in our own space and not have to deal with someone else's often trivial relationship woes. Or maybe that is just age speaking. But I guess that is why whale song always sounds so mournful to me as they call out to each other.
INFJ 👋- also something I have long suspected of myself being on autistic spectrum and of recent I have also learned I may have BPD although I just see it's as a lot of different categorizations of explaining people's personalities and behaviors based on genetic and cognitive diversity. The deep searching and conversations completely understand this and I find it extremely hard to get this with most I will be very much a new explorer and I get a lot of people complain that I am aimlessly wandering like I am doing nothing... I know exactly what I am doing and vaguely understand what I am searching for and these same people once they finally catch up to my discovery tend to then discredit me and claim it for themselves or don't acknowledge that what they complained about from me was the very reason they had it. But if you ever want to try and get that deeper understanding you can reach out I am happy to chat and I really enjoy getting to know individuals on a deep personal level and understanding what makes them them a lot of people get defensive or weird that you are prying or are just so shallow and closed off.
I'm INFJ and literally found out I'm autistic this morning. Everything you are saying I am tracking. Now I know why there was still such a difference and a problem with me and finding out of was INFJ. That wasn't the only issue. Listening to you is like listening to my own ponderings which I love very much. So grateful God led me to you as He revealed yet another thing! I also have congestive heart failure from being tortured and tormented by an evil step father my whole life and I just found out I'm pregnant!!! I have been SOOOO good and I stepped out of line and God has got a sense of humor... let's just leave it at that. I could go on and on. You are so beautiful and you inspire me. I need to be sharing my experience, strength, hope and thoughts with others. ❤
That is it on the pattern recognition. The intuition is the recognition of the patterns and therefore getting a sense of where someone or something is going.
I have ADHD and am awaiting an ASD evaluation appointment. When I was really depressed I got INTJ, and now I usually get INFJ. I wonder if your emotional state affects this stuff. Update: ASD level one confirmed
You were more attracted to thinking because when depressed you are in problem solving mode. But your thoughts just go circles. And you dont want to feel depressed so you try not to feel or are just numbed. So your feeling side is suppressed. Thats how I think it works. I am entp btw
Sorry if this upsets you, but it seems like you took the 16 personalities-test. It's not reliable and many people get incorrect result. I recommend taking a test that measures cognitive functions, for instance sakinorva
I’m new to the channel and love your videos ! I’m autistic and an infj and agree with you 100 percent ! Especially about holding space for people to be themselves and be seen and then not having that reciprocated and feeling very alone . ❤❤❤
I love this video idea!! I literally realized this pattern but never found any supporting information about this online and thought I might just be making things up 😮💨 it’s feels great knowing other people noticed this too and I relate so much to the first 8 minutes of this video 😋 I’m an INFJ too and I’m a diagnosed adhder and my counsellor and I suspect I’m an audhder but I’m not formally diagnosed with autism. I literally wanna send my counsellor this video because she’s also neurodivergent and we both have a special interest in psychology and it just resonates so much 🫶🫶🫶
I appreciate your video. I haven’t taken a test for any of the things I feel apply to myself. I feel the description of QBPD, ADD, and INFJ best describes me.The autistic part I write off as being shy. I did notice that you keep yourself on track by reading notes😊 I enjoyed this video and the birdies in the background. I am a people watcher and I learn how to be in public and how NOT to be from this. And OMG, your dad was just like my dad. Yet I do care about money and changed how I interacted or projected that upon my family. I observe high moral values. Be kind and helpful and go with the flow! ❤I also agree with pattern recognition. I can remember faces but like from watching a movie, I can’t remember the lines after one watch but have to watch it numerous times yet seeing the face of the actors, I CAN remember after one viewing. 😁 we have a lot of similar life experiences. I have had to edit this a few times because as I watch it I make a comment. All of this video resonates. ❤ Thanks again!!!
I can so much relate to what you say about therapists. I feel like as if they only have their studies and categories and clichés in their head instead of really seeing YOU. I started therapy a while ago and I am so frustrated because what she tells me is mostly surface level information ℹ can find everywhere. Also in general I can so much relate. Your definition of intuition makes so much sense. Thank you. This made me feel much better
INFJ-t here, always felt like some kind of savant in terms of connecting the dots, finding patterns, forecasting probable future scenario. In addition, I am an Enneagram 1, socializing tritype 1-6-2, while coping by tritype 1-5-3. Wings are 2 & 9, while arrows (for growth) are 4-7. My IQ at 23 years old was 127. Now being 54 years old my IQ is 144. Thank you for ur video, very interesting!
INFJ and Autistic in your video title caught my attention immediately! I took the Myers Briggs test many years ago and I have since blamed my INFJ personality type as the root of my problems and what makes me so uniquely weird. Kind of hard being told "it's just your personality" though. My thoughts on the two subjects immediately jumped to: if enough of us are INFJ or P, it would be extremely interesting if the Myers Briggs test questions could be incorporated as part of the diagnostic testing for autism due to the correlation. It may be pseudoscience, but from what I see, most of the diagnostic methods for autism are based on observable traits alone, since there's no brain scan or blood test at the present time that unequivocally proves autism or not. I am more and more certain I am autistic, journalling so many memories, going through my entire life story, discovering more and examples. Despite that, I probably will choose to never get an official diagnosis partly due to my age, but mostly due to the cost. If INFJ is so rare and that score proves to be linked to autism, it seems like this test would reduce the cost of diagnosis and remove that barrier for many. I got sidetracked with my thoughts and I'm only 20 minutes in so I'm going to go watch the rest of your video now to hear the rest of your thoughts. I have watched a lot of your videos recently and they have all been helpful thank you!
I am an INFJ, and thought for a period of time that I might be autistic, after watching this video and relating literally to everything you explained about autism , now I'm like this is getting serious and I need to really search more deeply about autism . So thanks a lot for making this video .
Thanks so much for the reminder that my interests will still be there tomorrow. I definitely need this after hyperfixating on my pet hamster for the last 2 months I'm exhausted, and off the back of that discovered I'm autistic so now doing a deep dive into research. I resonated so much with everything you've said, especially the part about being alone out in the ocean and I often have images and visualization of the deep sea!! Much love and thank youu for your knowledge and generosity
I really enjoyed this video, thank you for taking the time to make it.❤ I felt like somebody finally "explained me".😂 I think it would be useful to show this video to the people in my environment. Sometimes I really struggle with making people understand me.
This is actually a question that popped into my head the other day. "Are INFJ's often also autistic?" I found out 8 years ago that I am an INFJ advocate type personality and only recently diagnosed with audhd. We may be different from the crowd but with such a high level of integrity,; we can also be good mentors and teachers for better living.😊
I am an INFJ-A and currently seeking formal diagnoses for both ADHD an autism (no luck for years but I hope to finally make progress this year with the increased understanding of autism in AFAB people)--I never knew there was a correlation between people with autism and the INFJ type! I am lucky enough that my best friend is also an INFJ (and fellow ADHDer/possibly autistic), so we get along very well XD We understand each other's limits and struggles that don't need to be explained out loud. It is indeed a lonely and frustrating existence at times, to be able to understand and accommodate others so well, yet not receive the same courtesy. But the few people I have in my life now truly understand me, and that helps me extrapolate that self-confidence out to other parts of my life.
You are the first person who has ever described me to a 'T'. I make lists just like you do, I work out eveything I have to do with a timeline to stay on track, every day of my life. I suss people out by watching them and listening carefully to what they say and how they say it. I live inside my head and think a great deal, trying to make myself comfortable in this world where I feel I don't belong. I rely on my intuition a lot and it never lets me down. My world has always been so different from other peoples' and I resonate with so few. They just don't get me because they don't take the time to get to know me - I guess it is just too much to ask of them in this fast-paced world. I love my solitude because I can be at peace with myself. At seventy four I am finally letting go of wanting to be understood. Thank you for this great video, it is wonderful to know there are people out there just ike me :)
Haha, yes! You try to be objective and think about everything from multiple points of view, and then everyone's like "oooh you're overthinking, just make up your mind"! It's like people have no patience to actually analyse an issue and figure out the objective facts. It's all based on first impressions and feelings. And i mean yeah, i have those too, but i also know most of the time they're not reflecting the actual truth. Otherwise I'd for ever mistrust everyone because i have an extremely sensitive lying/BS radar. I have to be willing to think "wait, ok, they're clearly not being honest right now but are they actually doing it with malevolent intent? What's causing it? Are they just being this way to be likable/part of a group? Are they hiding anxiety?" Etc etc etc
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I'm a questioning autistic and an infp!! I've always been fascinated by personality tests as a way to learn about people
I think INFP and INFJ are very close I have taken the test twice and one time the test came back INFP, but at that time in my life I was just fired from a really good day job and I answered the questions about routine differently LOL.
Me too :)
me too!
Also infp and autistic :) The only autistic people I personally know in fact (3 others) are also INFP
@@jessebreakspear6656 I always test as an INFP and obviously a lot of things do match, but theres a few really significant differences where I always felt INFP doesnt quite hit the spot. did a cognitive function test (as those are very different for infp and infj) and it turns out i share my most dominant functions with INFJ. also, same boat, unemployed currently and therefore currently more on the perceptive than on the judging side, but generally prefer having at least a rough plan/idea for everything to come.
I feel like we’re the same person. 😅
I’m in a phase of deep autism research…. On the verge of finally self-diagnosing. Trying to find enough (way too much) evidence to just take that plunge already. My road has been INFJ to Highly Sensitive Person to possibly autistic. (Oh, and I’m a therapist, too. So studying others is like my one and only interest.)
@honey I love it! It has its ups and downs, of course, but it’s the right fit for me. Especially now that I have a private practice and work for myself, at home! It’s taken me a while to find my groove in it officially, but now that I have it’s great.
@honey so, I don’t think I feel comfortable putting any contact info on here, but if you’d like to send me your email or something I can reach out. Or I can answer questions on here if there’s something specific you’re thinking.
Oh my gosh, this sounds like me. Just about to begin 2nd year of a degree that will hopefully begin my career as a therapist. 👀♥️
Also an INFJ currently over self-diagnosing and looking at too much info on autism but not bringing it up for diagnosis... and did I mention I too am in my first year of being a therapist lol
Well I'm not on my way to being a therapist but I am an INFJ and I find people endlessly fascinating. I want to get to know many different people and learn all about them. I have taken psychology just at university 1 level but I didn't finish, I also took part of sociology too which I loved too. I wanted to do philosophy too but I was told by a family member that it was too many arts I think and that I should take something different.
I think most autistic women find an interest in personality types and psychology as a whole out of desperation trying to make sense of people 😂😭 and I've thought this too for a while now that there is a strong correlation with being infj and autistic! 😊👍
No, that's just a lot of women in general. Same with horoscopes and the like. Myers-Briggs is pseudo-science. That's not a denigration of women, there are a lot of societal reasons behind why women tend to gravitate to one form of pseudoscience and men tend to gravitate toward other forms of pseudo-science.
@@wellesradio if it were pseudoscience then why do 88 percent of fortune 500 companies use MBTI along with the CIA and the military??
I feel the first person who replied didn't get the right point about your correlation, and for me it surely makes sense! just an interesting pov
@@agardenwithfireblossoms I agree though. Pseudo science is also socialisation-dependable.
@@wellesradioScience is constantly changing, though. What was scientifically proven years ago, may change at any time. New research, new discoveries, ever evolving. This is why I'm in the field. It's exciting to me because the possibilities are endless. Food for thought.
My wife thinks I might be autistic. I'm an INFJ. Rules about manhood, masculinity and femininity don't make sense to me. Rules about socializing stress me out and confuse me. I hated dating for these reasons.
Maybe, maybe not, depends on your wife's basis for believing so. There's a ton of different explanations for having those viewpoints lol
INFJ here too! Also autistic. As far as I am concerned, your metaphor for swimming out to the deeper water really resonates with me. It’s so hard to find someone else who wants to go that deep with us. I feel like so many people are content to live their lives in the shallow end, and that’s so completely unfulfilling in my opinion. When I rarely find someone who wants to go deep, it feels like my soul has found some sustenance after having been starved for a long time. I totally appreciate you putting the feeling into words! Thanks for this video. As soon as I saw that someone had done a video on both the INFJ type, as well as autism, I was all over this video. Thank you for putting those things together, because I’ve always had a gut feeling that us INFJs are probably heavily correlated with autism. It’s really validating to hear another autistic person giving voice to the theory! I also believe that the Highly Sensitive Person framework in psychology also heavily correlates to autism as well, but that’s a digression. 😉
I am the same. Its been a long time since my soul was fed in that way
Same here! Diagnosed at 33 with autism and Ive felt there is a strong correlation. 🙌
Me2!
I thought INFJ, being so rare, might not be a valid type but just autism rebranded 😂
SIM!!! EU TAMBEM PENSO DA MESMA FORMA! Sempre achei que infjs fossem autistas empáticos e eu penso nisso há 1 ano todos os dias da minha vida. Não tem vídeos como esse no RUclips brasileiro, infelizmente.
This video literally helped me realize that my pattern of hyper focusing as an autistic person literally makes it so that I'm a fixer, I obsess over helping, studying and analyzing people to help them heal and connect with themselves and I never get it reciprocated. It's because my brain can go so deep.
Thank you for this you're so awesome
Same
I’m actually an INTJ, but I believe that since the functions are so similar that it’s a similar situation. The whole “studying people from our own home” was definitely something that I can see in myself.
I have scored as INTJ and INFJ. Is because the Ni function, that has a lot to do with the video and being sort of autistic (asperger maybe). That freaking intuition throwing information out of the blue whatever you are, connecting dots where you never though it was possible. If you tap into that function fully inmersed on it, you pretty much are playing in your head like if it was your own matrix. What can be more autistic than that? I believe the difference between INTJ's and INFJ's is only the stuff we are attracted to. FJ's are por into peoples behaviour, TJ's into systems like mechanics, electronics, computers or someting you can form systems with
Very interesting- at work INTJ traits seem to be at play- However, at home or doing research etc I am an INFJ/ ADHD/ OCD/ Dyslexic - These are not weaknesses - strengths but it took many yrs to be okay with such! Social Worker and Clinical Therapist- Rational Emotive therapy and teaching are my most effective and affective interventions- hobby anything with numbers!
I believe a lot of autistics are also INTJ (and I know some who are). I myself am an autistic INFJ.
Those of us who are either Extroverted Intuitives or Introverted Intuitives frequently fall in the tism, ADHD range of life.
Must be intuitive functions fault.
Anybody want to switch types?
I'm also an INTJ, I've always been obsessed with getting things perfect, and getting things to work perfectly, it's both a positive, and negative trait
I am also INFJ/Autistic/ADHD/High IQ!!!! I am so glad you made this video! So you understand: ADHD vs. ASD balance, INFJ vs. ASD nuances, and how INFJ+ASD+High IQ can be used to 3rd eye into people's heads via intellect and validated via intuition/energies!? I am litterally shaking right now. I have SO MANY questions!
My mother suspects I may have a high iq (alot of people in our family do) and I suspect I may have autism. When I was getting diagnosed with adhd apparently they got me checked out for autism too. I hope I can get myself checked again, because I've lost alot of sleep obsessing over it, lol
Same here. Also had the Old Soul and Empath labels too 😅
Same
Nah you are not. Myers-Briggs is bullshit no one with high IQ would believe it. Prolly self-diagnosed ASD and ADHD and high IQ from internet IQ test. Nobody with high IQ would believe something like 3rd eye even exists.
This video has been extremely validating to watch. That part where you highlighted how isolating/lonely it is to be the INFJ person that's constantly doing the mental load for others, but not being able to get the same support in return. In relationships (familial, romantic, platonic) I like that I bring clarity and understanding to others. I dont mind being "that" person in any dynamic. But the downside is, like every other human, I'm not always my 100%. Sometimes I need a me to be there for me, to come in read the room and give me a new fresh perspective.
The video however kind of scratch that itch alittle.
Comments are INFP, INTP, INFJ. I have been wondering how many MBTI types have ASD for 2 years now. Thank you for this video and platform.
I'm an ENFJ on the spectrum!
Just as an aside..if you do want to find someone who can " see" you as an INFJ at least..find a developed INFP to talk to. It's the only Myers Briggs personality type that I have found that has the depth of feeling that an INFJ has and also has the extroverted intuition that is able to put all your feelings in context and translate them back to you. Due to introverted sensing they have incredible maps of your internal state of being and they remember it forever! I have two of these people in my life and the stuff that they tell me about myself is new and spot on. They like INFJs because we live in the feelings space but through a more logic based way so we can ground them and give them practical advice.
Most of my friends are INFP’s! They’re awesome :)
yeah infps are great both as friends and as partners for infjs, since both of them like to go deep in the things, especially with feelings and analysing the world and people even if infjs do it in both logically and feeling way that help infps to not be too impulsive. but i also think that other great friends/partners are intjs and enfps, especially those last ones since many time enfps are linked to the adhd and autism and adhd share some traits in common
This description is spot on, wow. I feel like INFJs look right through me, its almost creepy sometimes. ^^ But you put it in so warm words... =)
I also want to recommend ESTPs to you. They will admire you for your deep dives and soak it up like a sponge. And they may take you diving in the real sea in return. ; )
As your Duals (socionics) they can be very easy to be around for you and that may be extra beneficial for us autistic people.
You are absolutely correct. I'm six years older than my INFP sister but goddamn their emotional intelligence has no bounds. I feel out of depth when it comes to all the personal feelings and things she keeps close to her chest. She hates it when I try to pry because it's something personal for her but she does not mind me ranting on about my favorite things for hours. We have very similar interests and it feels like a dream, the way we interact with each other... it's like we're speaking english but not. We're speaking through feelings and empathy and it's insane. She's the only one who understands me completely, maybe not entirely, but more than most people
@@God_3712 This is awesome! I love that you are so close with your sister. What a wonderful gift to have such a companion 😍
INTP here. I’ve always stumbled across the link between INTP, INFJ and being on the spectrum. There are a lot of similarities of being and INTP and ASD, I’m newly DX’d. I guess I have always understood the link of neurology and personality, thanks to Dario Nardi, but I always dismissed everything as being an INTP. I’m also got ADHD, and the more I’ve delved into understanding adult neurodivergence, the more my struggles and strengths in life make sense and I feel like I found that part I was missing to complete the puzzle of me. But now so realize I don’t know who “me” is. MBTI softened the shock, I think. When you’re a rare type, you’re used to being different than everyone else.
So, curveball, maybe you just are an INTP and society is way too narrow in its ways of defining how a normal person looks like. It is about numbers, because there are so few inuitives, they are not counted into the "statistics" of what makes up a standard human (I think those are pretty outdated as well), and so it is a sensory way of making sense of people who deviate. Really, in my point of view, it is one of the newer cases of discrimination on a larger scale, that so many (if not all) creatives and independent thinkers are given labels of ADHD and ASD.
Anyway, don't let my way of viewing it all get in the way of your process.
I'm also INTP and I remember noticing how many stereotypical autistic traits are featured in INTP, even if I thought I was just a nerd in my teen years
Also INTP, specifically INTP-T. I also noticed that a lot of the characteristics describe symptoms of ASD and some ADHD in the case of turbulence vs assertiveness.
I'm an INTP as well
I know I am a introverted intuitive … I have the lack of time sense of a perceiver … in fact, I am completely time blind … The rest is murky … Although the description you read of the INFJ *does* sound like me … Also - your father sounds a lot like mine - I had the same reaction you did …money can’t buy happiness - and it certainly doesn’t make up for abuse ! Additionally, it made me feel the money was more important to him than I was … and that he was trying to *buy* my good opinion instead of earning it - which my father very much failed to do … Thanks for the excellent video - it really does have the effect you described at the end …
am INTP, and I just found out about autism and I am shook
I’ve never felt so understood in my life, I nearly cried. I am an infj and I suspect that I am have adhd and also on the spectrum as well! Psychology has always been my special interest and I’ve been going crazy with the autism research 😅. Thank you for this video
I feel the same! I also think I have adhd and am in the spectrum and am an infj, I feel so like, seen yk?
If you were on the spectrum, it's more likely you'd feel relief rather than elation
INFP self-diagnosed AuDHD here!
I think the reason I am INFP over INFJ is because of my ADHD and how that relates to my autism specifically.
My brain seems to be in conflict with each other a lot. My autistic side thrives on structure while my ADHD side just can't stick to schedules cause if I miss my next task by even a minute, the entire schedule is ruined and my autistic side kicks in and panics thinking the entire day is ruined.
It's not fun LOOOOOOL I noticed you have a planner on your Etsy for helping people like me stick to routines that both feeds the autistic need for structure and my ADHD need for flexibility within that structure (if that doesn't make sense let me know cause that seems like a paradox LOOL).
@Koharu Macchiato That planner looks interesting. Need the structure and flexibility combo too as energy and focus fluctuates so much. On the Myers’s Briggs I am not always the same, sometimes INFJ, INFP, others but high on autistic traits. Not sure about ADHD. It’s been challenging needing structure and a lot of flexibility too. Similar to you.
True adhd can seem like Ne. I'm infp too
I was also obsessed with personality tests at some point and this is how I found out I am INFJ. I agree with you about people complicating everything and about the simplicity of life. I relate to writing a book about people in my head as well! And yes we feel so deeply. I also agree about layers people put on and hiding themselves. It's really frustrating to interact with people's layers rather than their true core selves. And this sense of not being seen myself, this is so true! I feel nobody in the whole entire world actually knows me. I also have no problem with constructive criticism because as you said, it's information. And yes, there is no space for me to open up even with the therapist!
Oof...that hit hard. I often give everything to understand and support others, and others seem so disinterested with me.
It is lonely as heck.
I was an INTJ while I was in the Navy but after retirement my mask came crashing down and I realized I was autistic (my psychologist clued me in on that one,) and I realized I was an INFJ as well. I forced the “T” I.e., “thinking” as part of my mask because I had to in order to survive but I burned out from masking for years.
hello! you technically can't change mbti as mbti is about cognitive functions... not letter ditchtonomies. infjs can be disorganized, they can be extroverted, they can seem 'cold' and value 'logic'.... bc it's not about letter ditchtonomies. What this video, 16p in general, is describing, is more closely resembling the big 5 theory but using mbti ditchtonomies. mbti is about how you process information... you have a dominant function, auxiliary, tertiary and inferior. there are TWO axis - PERCEVING - which can be either through intuition or sensing (we ALL use both) and JUDGING - which is either thinking or feeling (again everyone uses all 4) your dominat inferior function will be the opposite function of your dominat one (so infjs are perceiving, intuition first, so their last function is sensing - both are perceiving functions) your second and third function will be from the opposite axis from your dom/inf, so for infjs it is judging (feeling, thinking)
the feeling, thinking and sensing, intuition functions, also come in additional flavours. let's call them attitudes, your attitude can be either extroverted (objective) or introverted (subjective) so sensing can be either objective (extroverted sensing) or subjective (introverted sensing) the opposite function of the same axis will have the opposite attitude. so if you have EXTROVERTED sensing, you will have INTROVERTED intuition.
infjs, are actually perceiving dominant types, they perceive the world first, judge after. the 'i'tells us the dominant function is subjective, the N and F tell us their first two functions will be intuition and feeling. we know intution is a perceving function (p), and as nonsensical as it might seem this means the J/P will be switched for INTROVERTED TYPES ONLY. so Ni is a Pi function, in the Ni Dom's their letter type switches,, =>ixxjs are perceving doms, ixxps are judging doms. so we know infjs have introverted intuition as their first function, the auxiliary function's (or the letter indicator that isn't the dominant one => F in infj) it's attitude will be the opposite from the dominant one, so it will be extroverted for the infjs' feeling function. hence they also have a introverted thinking function, and a extroverted sensing function last. the s econd and third functions can be used a bit more interchangeably than dominant and inferior functions, which are more polarized.
and if you wonder what all these functions even mean, um well that would be a whole new topic, but basically there are eight:
judging axis (feeling-thinking):
introverted feeling (Fi) accompanied with extroverted thinking (Te)
extroverted feeeling (Fe) accompanied with introverted thinking (Ti)
perceving axis (sensing-intutition):
introverted sensing (Si) accompanied with extroverted intution (Ne)
extroverted sensing (Se) accompanied with introverted intution (Ni)
have fun in the journey if you do decide to take it 😅😅😅 I know it can be a bit daunting just thought I'd clear up smt even though it's an EXTREMLY common misconception! /lh
I am a highly sensitive autistic and ADHD individual.
I'm glad you brought up energy reading. I've been an energy reader, not necessarily by choice, but I adapted to be one because of the environments I've been in as a means of survival. It has only strengthened itself throughout the years.
I struggle with direct eye contact, so my peripheral vision, picking up movement and sounds, has also been heightened to accommodate.
Overall, I respond to energy more than anything.
I hope that makes sense.
Yes!
I had a friend who would swim into the ocean with me (metaphorically). We grew apart, but he has been the only person I've ever had such a profound connection with. Conversations were fluid and we were honest with each other in ways niether of us had ever known before. I miss him all the time and I dont think I'll ever get that level of understanding with anyone ever again. However, I'm glad i at least got to experience it once.
I'm autistic and INFJ and he was ISTP
I have now finished watching this video, and all I can say is that throughout this entire video, I found myself just nodding and saying “Yup.” Over and over again. Everything Irene said resonated so powerfully and deeply with me. Especially the part where she talks about how we always want to make a safe space for others and be that shoulder to lean on when someone is in need, and yet, never having the same energy returned to us. This has been a reoccurring theme in my life since I was very young. I’ve always been the one people run to when they’re in need, and I’ve always been told that I know exactly what to say to help someone through they’re struggles and help them to feel better. Yet, I have never gotten the same returned to me, even when I’ve asked for it or brought it to someone’s attention. To this day in my early 20s, I have yet to have found a community or at least friends that offer a reciprocating energy and requited interest and compassion. As and AuDHD who lives in Texas where the only Autism organization that allistic people listen to and advocate for is Austin Speaks, finding people who understand me has been more than challenging. It’s left me feeling lonely and continually wondering what is wrong with me. Even though my ASD self-diagnosis has brought me so much peace in other aspects of my life, I still don’t understand why I can’t make and keep friends and have deep connections with people, and why they often run from me when I show them my authenticity. Hearing her talk about this in such a way that perfectly describes how I am constantly feeling was so reassuring. To know that I’m not alone in this, and that I’m not “crazy” for feeling this way was so affirming. I can only hope that one day I find that person or group of people that will offer me the same energy I offer them in a space where we are all authentically ourselves. ❤
I am 55 years old. I took the actual Meyers Briggs test in my late 20s and was found to be an INFJ and have always deeply resonated with the result. My only real life exposure to autism was when I was 15, my boyfriend's younger brother was autistic, and exhibited many of the "typical" signs of autism, so I never suspected I may have autism, but recently discovered that i resonate deeply with high masking autism, much more than previous mental health Dx. I am on a waiting list to be tested. I feel like so much of my life makes sense in the light of autism and that I can finally stop trying to change to fit in. Thank you for this video, it is highly validating! Its also good to know others are out here in the deep end, I've felt so alone here for so long, everyone I know prefers much shallower water 💧 💙 😊
I am an INFJ, self assessed ASD in late adulthood, and HSP. I’ve probably been deeply masking my whole life. It is so refreshing to watch your videos and finally hear someone express the thoughts and feelings I’ve been carrying alone in my life.
24:07 - 25:09 omg this! People really tend to put on layers when they're in a large group and I feel really bothered by it. I would be sitting or standing there and thinking to myself like -- That's not how you normally act, Susan, snap out of it! By the way, as an INFJ/autistic person, everything you describe here is absolutely bang on. Thanks for such an insightful video!
This video is a feat of communication… I’ve been thinking about energy lately and how autistic people can spot discrepancies between energy and words/presentation. Everything in this video was on point. Being misunderstood is tiring, and it’s discouraging when people seem to be limited in their empathy/imagination/ability to perspective-shift and too mentally tired to join you. You made sense the entire video haha
I feel this so hard.
I’m obsessed with Myers Briggs and other tests and I often ask people up front if they know their types. For people I’ve known a long time, I’ll ask if I can give them the test.
Your video was the first one I came across when finally searching for INFJ and autism. I have known I was an INFJ for many years but only realized I was Autistic and ADHD recently. Everything makes so much more sense to me now. I particularly resonate with the intuitive part where someone is presenting a certain way but you can tell their internal energy does not align with their external presentation. When I was younger I would "mess up" sometimes and reveal that I knew something of what was going on with the person and the result was always fear and then what usually followed was hostility. This I still don't understand because hostility seems like the opposite of what is logically needed. Mostly I learned not to tell anyone what I knew which leads to your other statement of feeling very misunderstood. Does this resonate with any other autistics or INFJs? On the plus side I have found some people including my partner who do see me clearly and these people are gifts beyond anything I can measure.
Omg... yes to accidentally adressing or god forbid instinctively/impulsively asking when someone is visibly upset, freaking out, scared, etc... 😅 Suddenly they are yelling and whoah man... ok sorry. Had no idea how invasive people see talking about real time feelings.... like communication is the goal right? Or they might find that asking can really harm their attempts to cope or pretend for the sake of maintaining social norms 🤔
I later realized people take time to process what they feel, and that delay is different from person to person, and from situation to situation. Its like a landmine, but I later learned that counceling techniques, motivational interviewing, and "holding space" approaches really help when addressing these things with people.
I am ASD, ADHD, and INFJ too 😊
Sometimes knowing and reading too much causes social problems 😅
Thanks for sharing, your last sentence reminds me to remain hopeful. I remember telling a girl in HS who was supposed to be my friend that I wish I was blind. Because I was genuinely confused and so alone feeling like I could see right through people while everyone else accepts what everyone presents. And I had to watch my friends hug my English teacher, asking me why don't I give him a hug too, who caught a case a few years after we graduated for an ongoing relationship with a student. To this day everyone thinks I'm a very cold person.
Welcome to the club, lol ! I’m a 59 yr old highly functional autistic, Dominant/introvert Sigma INFJ-T Heyoka autodidact myself. Highly creative in the arts/music, behavioral psychology, and honestly, creative in every possible way at all times, but have always been extremely camera and recording shy. Very few pictures exist of me, no matter how much family and friends have tried to ambush me, mostly to no avail because I have extremely fast reflexes as well. I have no idea how you stand recording yourself for RUclips, let alone perfecting it for public consumption ? My humility is extremely stifling when it comes to myself. It’s nice to not feel alone and crazy though, seeing your videos. I often use sayings I’ve coined like, “ Fame and fortune is a gilded cage of your own creation “, “ trust no source and question absolutely everything, especially yourself “, and “ never trust academia “. I knew academics couldn’t be trusted before kindergarten. I proved the pseudoscience of psychology incorrect at utilized base level theories within the first two weeks of my double major. How do you continue with manipulative programming throughout academic studies, especially when you discover the professors also know this yet must push the materials given or lose possibly everything they’ve worked so hard to achieve, including family, friends, employment, possibly leading to imprisonment because the powers are so great ? My career focuses and changes usually last approximately two to three years, of which I always excel at, yet must get out before I compromise my morals and values to much. Once I no longer find things within the systems for me to modify or challenges to test and push myself in, I feel no more need for me, and must seek change. Do these things ring bells for you ?
ENFP here. Adhd and Autistic who has always been super interested in MBTI and all things psychologically really.
( btw- ENFP is actually an INFJ inside out.)
Thank you for your videos so much. Truly, thank you ❤
Pattern recognition as intuition makes so much sense to me. I tend to identify patterns at lot sooner than most people whether visually or in behavior. A lot of people tell me I’m just spitballing but to me it’s intuitive and can be traced if you pay enough attention to repetition.
Wow this is spot on for me! I just found out about autism and thought.. um I thought that was just being an INFJ 😆. My special interest of psychology makes so much sense now. Everything you said was 100% accurate to me. I even have a photography buisness so the list of what I need and the times was funny
The pattern recognition really describes what I do too . One on one is best for me …I’m an INFJ and I’m wondering how autism fits in with me. I struggle with making friends. But want to help anyone if I can. To avoid burnout I have to make a list of 3 things per day to accomplish … and I’m also a perfectionist …so if I don’t get the 3 things done , I have to try to not beat myself up . I have days where I just need to rest. You video resonates with me 100%! Thank you
I recently got diagnosed with autism, and I'm an ENFJ 2w1!
It's interesting for me to think about my personality type and why I prefer the functions FeNi (enfj). I think my preference for Fe comes from the fact that I'm constantly needing to know and understand people and what's going on with them. My eyes are always on people and how to interact with them and care for them and how to be able to communicate and get everyone on the same page.
My Ni is constantly running in the background and taking in every ounce of more subtle information it can and is neatly organizing it and making sense of what I'm experiencing outwardly, inwardly.
And that, to me, is such an autistic sounding feeling and experience, which I think is super fascinating and interesting. It just all lines up so well for me, and I love that.
Btw, you make amazing content, and I find a lot of useful information in it and a lot of relatability in it as well!
I have always struggled with that deep sense of loneliness you described, especially when sleeping next to a significant other who I sensed would/could never understand me...
I am so grateful you articulated this experience (and I really appreciate the imagery), as for the first time I am hopeful; You show that it IS possible to find others who think like this (the comments show there are at least several of us 😅), others who could understand and really see me 🤗
I resonate with this 100%. I’m an infj and just now, at 51, self diagnosed as autistic. This video is the first time I’ve heard someone articulate my inner world. Thank you so much!
I receive enjoyed your video.🥰💯👏🏼
I am INFJ. Your comparison of autism and INFJ is on point.
I am on the spectrum.
I resonate with everything you said.
Blessings Beautiful Irene.🙏🏼😇❤️🌺
I would change “weaknesses” with “risks”. Because, as an old-ish INFJ, I can see how it is useful (albeit tiring) to keep being vigilant on those aspects in order to be always ready to grasp the opportunity to grow. There’s a balance to find, of course, because one cannot always be on self-questioning mode. It’s very important to prune superficial judgments, I just want to underline the importance of keeping ourselves flexible. INFJs are very wise, but it’s always useful to ask ourselves how to improve our range of view.
I tell myself that if I am too comfortable dismissing a concept, I should allow myself 5 more minutes to think about it. I love to poke myself like that. Poor me. I need rest 🥲
Oh yeah I forgot. Would totally watch a part 2. Also, Laughed hard in different parts. It’s nice to see you are getting comfortable :)
Your videos resonate with me so much. The paradox of being autistic and having ADHD and I’m also INFJ. I’m self diagnosed and still sometimes wonder if I’m right about myself, and then watching your videos and reading about other peoples experiences, it then reinforces my self diagnosis. Thank you for putting so much thought and energy into helping others like you understand ourselves.
As an INFJ-T, I absolutely relate to this video!
I am an INTP and ADHD. My therapist said I have several autistic traits too but not diagnosed. It seems many autistic people are INxx. Introverted and extraverted intuition is great at pattern recognition. Then again ISTJ seems sterotypically autistic in a way as Si likes routine. I think Paige Layle is an ISTJ. Also INFJs are one of my favourite types ^_^ and I love the bird sounds in your video. Great analysis. MBTI is one of my special interests!
Hearing that my type is your favorite makes my heart warm 🥰
Yesyesyes!!!!
I wonder if there’s actually a higher frequency of INXXs on the spectrum, or if the weaknesses of our personality types compound the issues we face and make it more likely we would reach the point where we would feel the need to seek help and diagnosis. We’re definitely more likely to be on the internet researching and discussing it than other types.
I can’t help but imagine that the ESXXs’ personality traits might compensate for their difficulties. I know personally for me as an INTP I already am not that interested in what is going on around me and ADHD only makes it that much more difficult to focus on those things when I have to.
I don’t even know where to begin, I’ve never related to someone more than you, it’s like watching myself it’s so wild!! Also an INFJ, your videos are so amazing and important and I’m so grateful to have found you 💖 you’ve definitely prompted me to find a good therapist to diagnose me!
I remember seeing a Dan Akroyd interview (before I knew I was on the spectrum) and I was all like "I can't put my finger on it but he reminds me of me" I don't know if he's an INFJ personality but he's famously on the spectrum. anyways it's more good than bad to get diagnosed. I mean for me at least, it was very sad at first because if I knew sooner It would have saved me a lot of suffering. but once you get all that drama over with it's actually quite funny because all my close friends and family were like "yeah tell me something I don't know" anyways "preaching to the choir now probably I know" long story short I felt kind of lost before I was diagnosed LOL seriously I was starting to wonder if I was an alien abductee or something.😆
Same! Ever since discovering what Autism was, and having it describe my character traits, whenever I watch a video discussing the topic it always resonates deeply.
It's so comforting knowing I wasn't just odd, strange, rejected for no reason, misunderstanding so much for no reason, social anxiety etc.
Unfortunately I don't know anyone in my life that is similar.
This is my first time watching one of your videos, I was searching for the coorelation of INFJ and Autisim (specally on women) because I'm an INFJ and possible Autistic (not yet diagnosed) and this video popup, OMG I can relate with a lot of your toughts, it make me feel really validated, and you put somethings into word that I always thought, but never spoke to anybody about, and it feels so good, it's comforting. Thank you! You defently gaind a new viewer (Sorry if its worded werid, english is not my frist language)
Oh my god. You described the way I was financially abused growing up to a T. I have never heard someone talk about this. I'm glad I'm not alone
Sending you love💗 & wanting to talk more about this topic in the future. Probably in my members-only episodes since it’s probably not a common experience!
Heard about these tests so I went through it. Result was INFJ-T.
Which lead me here because I heavily suspect I have Autism because everything makes perfect sense about it, and it's so familiar.
Interested to hear about the possible link in this video.
Lesss gooooo! XD
I’ve recently felt a connection with autism. I’m INFP and enneagram type 4. I love personality tests, after I found enneagram I tried to get everyone at my job to take it and it helped me categorize and feel more comfortable socializing. I love your videos! Thank you for posting
Nobody needs to understand me, now that I understand me !!
You’ve described me. I’m an INFJ and most likely autistic. I can relate to pretty much everything you read about INFJ’s and how you experience those traits and aspects.
Wowww I was told recently by my therapist that he thought I had ASD (I was diagnosed with ADHD years ago), so I've been researching ASD traits/symptoms online and came across your channel. I'm INFJ too!!! So interesting... More evidence that my therapist was correct 😂.
It's so weird to watch someone else and yet see/hear yourself in them. You hit the nail on the head so many times.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I don't really jive with the Myers-Briggs because of the way it was used at my university, but I I like the way you use it as a frame for discussion.
Oh my gosh, preach girl about the disdain for slacking co-workers or workers in general. I feel this sooooo much. I think this is something for sure that resonates with me and my autism.
It’s not just autism for infj but all those types of issues including ADHD.
I have concluded that our brain chemistry is different and likely creates side effects to other aspects of our brain processing
I mention adhd because that is my issue and being an infj
Neurodiversity baby that’s our jam!!!!!
INTJ here :) Thanks for your videos, I always listen to the podcast version. Came here to let you know I'm a fan too! 💞
Here's my tangent: Oh my goodness, people not working at work has always been a issue for me to accept (especially people being on thier phone) because the work will fall to other people & there seems to be little concern for coworkers.
This was a great one, thank you for the work you put into your channel & the ND community 💜
Yes I'm like that too. I appreciate other people at my work taking their job seriously like I do
Really loved how you went through this step by step and shared your own experience! Gotta admit that since my diagnosis I haven't made a connection between my ASD and the absolutely relentless INFJ outcomes of every Meyers-Briggs-ish test I took, but now it just makes so much sense.
"Life is so simple, people are so simple" OMG, it's like hearing myself talking! I'm also an INFJ and my therapist thinks I might be autistic. I'm 33 and really need some answers and better understanding of myself and you are helping me with that. No more masking for me!! Thank you!!
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My mouth is hanging open. Most of my therapists haven’t really furthered my progression that much. Only a few times has a therapist taught me something new about myself. I could count the amount of times that has happened on one hand. I find that when a therapist says “I’ve noticed this thing about your situation” and they’re expecting me to be taken aback, but I respond with “I’m glad you noticed that too.”
My current therapist has me doing worksheets all the time that I insist I do not need to do. I’ve done a values sheet three times with her. And throughout the whole process, I’m just bored because I’ve spent years of reflecting on my values so deeply that people complain that I’m picky. It almost feels like I’m the therapist.
I’d love to have a therapy experience where I actually get therapy. I wonder if autistic people with autistic therapists have better therapy experiences?
Finally someone to address the similarities between autism and infj.as an infj I recognized the pattern
I personally view autism as the hidden strength that made modern civilization possible. There are actually very little people really able to make things happen.
Ever since I can remember I felt like I was put on this earth to observe humans.
Meyers-Briggs is a personality inventory where they came up with 4 categories that could each be in two states and asked people to sort themselves into them. It doesn't have any magical explanatory power but it's a perfectly fine tool to help people describe themselves, and that's great!
Glad to find you. ❤ I recently was screened for Autism and likely to have it-just waiting for an assessment now. Was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, so went through most of my life struggling to keep up. I am now 52. The way that I found this video was because I did a search to see if there was a possible correlation between Autism and the INFJ personality type. I’ve been binge watching Frank James (think that’s his last name), and think that he’s hilarious. Anyhow, thank you for sharing your thoughts and observations. I can relate on so many levels. I also feel like it’s very seldom that someone actually “sees” me while I am always holding that space for other people. It’s definitely a superpower. 😅 Loneliness had become so painful for me that I thought it was a foundational flaw. I’d practiced the self-care concept so religiously that when writing about my journey with coming to terms, I was awarded for best essay of the year during my first year of community college (which I didn’t start until I was 31 years old). Thank you again. It’s relieving to have thoughtful information available.
Oh, I so enjoyed listening to you. I’m an INFJ with ADHD and hoping to find a testing center where I can get an autism assessment.
I saw the similarities between INFJ and autism so I did a search and found you!!
I obviously never met you but connected with you to the point in which I felt I just got off the phone with an old friend.
Didn’t think there was anyone out there who felt like I did.
Thank you!!
OMG that ocean metaphore hit so hard ... I completely relate to everything you said during the section about feeling like we cant open up to anybody and all the reasons why
Alright… I relate SO hard to this, almost word for word everything you said. Made me realize how glad I am to have a sister who’s also my best friend-she’s always been my “deep dive” buddy and doesn’t hesitate to explore the ocean of tangents/possibilities/meaning with me 🥺
Taking something as info, instead of personally, is me 100%. It’s one of the things that have always baffled me about others. How people can take info & instantly make it a personal attack, baffles my mind.
Can totally relate to the thorough checklists! I could never share my lists with others. I’m too embarrassed by the level of detail bordering on OCD or neuroticism. But I get the most sh*t done out of everyone around me.
INFJ-T here; haven't been diagnosed for anything but all of these characteristics describes me well on how I typically navigate in life, especially in the social aspect. The workplace shit is so relatable.
Some co-workers and team leaders tend to dislike me because of my rigid work ethic, some even mock me because I am too serious when it comes to work. I was not "trying" to be serious, it's just how I work and do things.
I always end up doing the extra mile but still getting shit on by others. That's why I switched to working from home and just do what I can and must do without drama.
I've never felt Energy like yours, it feels so pure and I connect to it so incredibly deeply. This video truly makes me feel seen. I've always had a passion for understanding people and felt so much deeper and always felt so different to people. I never used to feel comfortable in my own skin but knowing my personality type and coming slowly to the realisation I'm likely autistic feels like the moment of finding that illusive last jigsaw piece after desperate searching. I'm starting to finally see the whole picture and it's so relieving, it makes so much sense.
Sorry for the waffle but I genuinely am grateful for you producing this video.❤️
I have 3 children. One is autistic-ADHD, one is ADHD, and the youngest has Asperger’s. I am an INFJ. Only recently have I begun to make the connection for myself. Thanks for the video! This helps!
I am currently hyperfixating on your videos and happened to find this one. I have known I am INFJ for quite some time now but am just now learning that I may be high masking autistic. Your videos have been so helpful to me to really put the information into tangible ways that I can relate to it in my life. I feel like thinking about things abstractly while reading a definition has never really helped me and I am not good at describing, understanding, or even realizing/remembering how I do things. But hearing you talk about how you or other autistic people process things helps me have real "aha" moments and I feel so much less confused on whether I really fit into this group or not.
I’m ENFJ wit ADHD questioning whether I’m autistic 🫶🏾 love ur videos sis
ENFJ too :)
Sis is INFJ
Fellow INFJ AuDHD (diagnosed and treated ADHD, undiagnosed autism) deep diver here (though for a while I was drowning out there due to EF burnout). I'm new to your channel, and I very much resonate with the content I've been binge-watching thus far. Lots of information has been very helpful for me and reflective. Thank you for that. It's also confirming for me to see more of my autistic traits mirrored back to me here, as they have certainly become more noticeable now that my ADHD is being treated. I've always felt as though there were two very separate parts of me that were at odds with each other: One is spontaneous, impulsive, forgetful, silly, lighthearted, and needs novelty, the other needs routines, organization, and planning, is more serious and technical, perfectionistic, and highly particular. It's interesting because I feel as though the autistic traits masked the ADHD traits (need for routine and planning paired with anxiety around unpredictability led me to be on time for everything through over-preparation, need for a structured environment that is neat and tidy led me to anxiety clean when my EF had gotten bad and things started to get messy/dirty -- I'm realizing at this point I've gone off on a completely unrelated tangent to this video topic, so I'll reign myself back in here). To summarize, I am fascinated to learn more about autism and continue to understand myself more deeply. Thank you for providing relevant and helpful information in an accessible and interesting way through a variety of topics relating to autism.
I'm INFJ too and I related so much with everything you read (and the other parts of the description) the first time I read it. At the time I didn't know I had ADHD and possibly Autism too, and I'm so glad you made this video bc it helped me connect so many dots about myself. I brought it up with my psychiatrist and he just said "I don't see autism" and in my head I was like "yeah, that's the point. You don't see it bc I've been hiding it for three decades!!". I definitely relate to having two very opposing sides in my head - I crave routine but I'm unable to maintain it, love routine but get bored etc... Thank you for all your hard work creating these videos.
I thought I was introverted, but realized maybe I'm just autistic, so I have a desire to be with people and socialize, but I have a literal barrier to it.
Hi ! INFJ ADHD here, autism questioning, your video was so informative and relaxing. The background birds are very pleasant to hear and your voice is very melodic and relaxing to me.
Thank you for this
This is SO me. Not only people IRL but as a questioning autistic, I think I'm starting to uncover what my special interests are. I wasn't sure if my interests counted as special interests because i wasnt sure they met the criteria. And a major one is deeply connecting to and 'obsessing' over fictional characters, which has informed how I read people IRL. It's how I've learned social skills besides people watching and a good chunk of my life experience is living vicariously through fictional and real people. It just does something for my brain to find a character I really like and deep dive into WHO they are in the world they're from.
I'm INFJ, and there are some points on the INFJ profile that I don't agree with, mostly weaknesses, because I feel like even tho some of them I used to have I've worked hard at improving on those weaknesses so I do.t have them anymore. 🤔 so that's something to consider.
I just wanted to leave you a comment to say that I appreciate your videos. ^-^ I’ve been binge listening while I work and I like hearing your perspective and comparing them to my own experiences. I especially relate to the part where you talk about craving for someone to go out into the depths with you (deep connection in general, but those words in particular resonate with my experience), but no one seems to want to go that far with you. The way you talk about your experiences is relatable; it’s therapeutic to hear about experiences that are similar to yours. While your videos haven’t given me any self-realizations (I’ve figured myself out a fair bit (but there’s always more amirite?)), videos like yours are important because they reach people that NEED to hear this. Your videos would have helped me IMMENSELY as a child, so I know for a fact that they’re helping others.
I wish you a good rest of your day/week/month ^-^
I had never heard of INFJ before, but this fits me exactly. A lightning bolt moment. Thank you!
Great metaphor with the shoreline. Having lived 50 as an INFJ and undiagnosed autism, it has been a lonely life at times, even when sharing it with lovely people. I have often felt like a proverbial whale, deep diving into the darkness, where even angels fear to tread, in order to glean some insight on the why's? How's? Should've's and could've's of some personal traumatic event, or some other universal question of the ages.
To hear you speaking these words and reading the comments of others here, is comforting and heartwarming to know that there ARE others like us out there. With most of us experiencing emotional pain, by virtue of our personality types, I suspect we, if we are honest, prefer to be in our own space and not have to deal with someone else's often trivial relationship woes. Or maybe that is just age speaking. But I guess that is why whale song always sounds so mournful to me as they call out to each other.
INFJ 👋- also something I have long suspected of myself being on autistic spectrum and of recent I have also learned I may have BPD although I just see it's as a lot of different categorizations of explaining people's personalities and behaviors based on genetic and cognitive diversity.
The deep searching and conversations completely understand this and I find it extremely hard to get this with most I will be very much a new explorer and I get a lot of people complain that I am aimlessly wandering like I am doing nothing... I know exactly what I am doing and vaguely understand what I am searching for and these same people once they finally catch up to my discovery tend to then discredit me and claim it for themselves or don't acknowledge that what they complained about from me was the very reason they had it.
But if you ever want to try and get that deeper understanding you can reach out I am happy to chat and I really enjoy getting to know individuals on a deep personal level and understanding what makes them them a lot of people get defensive or weird that you are prying or are just so shallow and closed off.
I'm INFJ and literally found out I'm autistic this morning. Everything you are saying I am tracking. Now I know why there was still such a difference and a problem with me and finding out of was INFJ. That wasn't the only issue. Listening to you is like listening to my own ponderings which I love very much. So grateful God led me to you as He revealed yet another thing! I also have congestive heart failure from being tortured and tormented by an evil step father my whole life and I just found out I'm pregnant!!! I have been SOOOO good and I stepped out of line and God has got a sense of humor... let's just leave it at that. I could go on and on. You are so beautiful and you inspire me. I need to be sharing my experience, strength, hope and thoughts with others. ❤
That is it on the pattern recognition. The intuition is the recognition of the patterns and therefore getting a sense of where someone or something is going.
Omg, the thing about feedback and defensiveness vs invalid feedback resonates so greatly with me.
I have ADHD and am awaiting an ASD evaluation appointment.
When I was really depressed I got INTJ, and now I usually get INFJ. I wonder if your emotional state affects this stuff.
Update: ASD level one confirmed
You were more attracted to thinking because when depressed you are in problem solving mode. But your thoughts just go circles.
And you dont want to feel depressed so you try not to feel or are just numbed. So your feeling side is suppressed.
Thats how I think it works.
I am entp btw
I am the opposite, been diagnosed with ASD and now waiting for an ADHD assessment. Good luck on your ASD evaluation appointment!
@@zaraandrews600 Thanks, I was confirmed ASD 1 and ADHD-I in September of last year!
Sorry if this upsets you, but it seems like you took the 16 personalities-test. It's not reliable and many people get incorrect result. I recommend taking a test that measures cognitive functions, for instance sakinorva
@@user-ls1bw2uw1j I don't really care too much about my supposed personality type, but thank you.
I am a INFJ , and noticed the similarities when making friends with a autistic individual, initially though I though he was a INTJ .
I’m new to the channel and love your videos ! I’m autistic and an infj and agree with you 100 percent ! Especially about holding space for people to be themselves and be seen and then not having that reciprocated and feeling very alone . ❤❤❤
I love this video idea!! I literally realized this pattern but never found any supporting information about this online and thought I might just be making things up 😮💨 it’s feels great knowing other people noticed this too and I relate so much to the first 8 minutes of this video 😋 I’m an INFJ too and I’m a diagnosed adhder and my counsellor and I suspect I’m an audhder but I’m not formally diagnosed with autism. I literally wanna send my counsellor this video because she’s also neurodivergent and we both have a special interest in psychology and it just resonates so much 🫶🫶🫶
I appreciate your video. I haven’t taken a test for any of the things I feel apply to myself. I feel the description of QBPD, ADD, and INFJ best describes me.The autistic part I write off as being shy. I did notice that you keep yourself on track by reading notes😊 I enjoyed this video and the birdies in the background. I am a people watcher and I learn how to be in public and how NOT to be from this. And OMG, your dad was just like my dad. Yet I do care about money and changed how I interacted or projected that upon my family. I observe high moral values. Be kind and helpful and go with the flow! ❤I also agree with pattern recognition. I can remember faces but like from watching a movie, I can’t remember the lines after one watch but have to watch it numerous times yet seeing the face of the actors, I CAN remember after one viewing. 😁 we have a lot of similar life experiences. I have had to edit this a few times because as I watch it I make a comment. All of this video resonates. ❤ Thanks again!!!
I can so much relate to what you say about therapists. I feel like as if they only have their studies and categories and clichés in their head instead of really seeing YOU. I started therapy a while ago and I am so frustrated because what she tells me is mostly surface level information ℹ can find everywhere.
Also in general I can so much relate. Your definition of intuition makes so much sense. Thank you. This made me feel much better
So interesting. I’m an INFJ. I’m passionate about psychology, personality tests, etc.🧐
INFJ-t here, always felt like some kind of savant in terms of connecting the dots, finding patterns, forecasting probable future scenario. In addition, I am an Enneagram 1, socializing tritype 1-6-2, while coping by tritype 1-5-3. Wings are 2 & 9, while arrows (for growth) are 4-7.
My IQ at 23 years old was 127. Now being 54 years old my IQ is 144.
Thank you for ur video, very interesting!
INFJ and Autistic in your video title caught my attention immediately! I took the Myers Briggs test many years ago and I have since blamed my INFJ personality type as the root of my problems and what makes me so uniquely weird. Kind of hard being told "it's just your personality" though.
My thoughts on the two subjects immediately jumped to: if enough of us are INFJ or P, it would be extremely interesting if the Myers Briggs test questions could be incorporated as part of the diagnostic testing for autism due to the correlation. It may be pseudoscience, but from what I see, most of the diagnostic methods for autism are based on observable traits alone, since there's no brain scan or blood test at the present time that unequivocally proves autism or not.
I am more and more certain I am autistic, journalling so many memories, going through my entire life story, discovering more and examples. Despite that, I probably will choose to never get an official diagnosis partly due to my age, but mostly due to the cost. If INFJ is so rare and that score proves to be linked to autism, it seems like this test would reduce the cost of diagnosis and remove that barrier for many.
I got sidetracked with my thoughts and I'm only 20 minutes in so I'm going to go watch the rest of your video now to hear the rest of your thoughts. I have watched a lot of your videos recently and they have all been helpful thank you!
I am an INFJ, and thought for a period of time that I might be autistic, after watching this video and relating literally to everything you explained about autism , now I'm like this is getting serious and I need to really search more deeply about autism . So thanks a lot for making this video .
Thanks so much for the reminder that my interests will still be there tomorrow. I definitely need this after hyperfixating on my pet hamster for the last 2 months I'm exhausted, and off the back of that discovered I'm autistic so now doing a deep dive into research. I resonated so much with everything you've said, especially the part about being alone out in the ocean and I often have images and visualization of the deep sea!!
Much love and thank youu for your knowledge and generosity
I really enjoyed this video, thank you for taking the time to make it.❤ I felt like somebody finally "explained me".😂 I think it would be useful to show this video to the people in my environment. Sometimes I really struggle with making people understand me.
This is actually a question that popped into my head the other day. "Are INFJ's often also autistic?" I found out 8 years ago that I am an INFJ advocate type personality and only recently diagnosed with audhd. We may be different from the crowd but with such a high level of integrity,; we can also be good mentors and teachers for better living.😊
i really enjoy how thoughtful and intentional you come across especially with choosing your words
I am an INFJ-A and currently seeking formal diagnoses for both ADHD an autism (no luck for years but I hope to finally make progress this year with the increased understanding of autism in AFAB people)--I never knew there was a correlation between people with autism and the INFJ type! I am lucky enough that my best friend is also an INFJ (and fellow ADHDer/possibly autistic), so we get along very well XD We understand each other's limits and struggles that don't need to be explained out loud.
It is indeed a lonely and frustrating existence at times, to be able to understand and accommodate others so well, yet not receive the same courtesy. But the few people I have in my life now truly understand me, and that helps me extrapolate that self-confidence out to other parts of my life.
You are the first person who has ever described me to a 'T'. I make lists just like you do, I work out eveything I have to do with a timeline to stay on track, every day of my life. I suss people out by watching them and listening carefully to what they say and how they say it. I live inside my head and think a great deal, trying to make myself comfortable in this world where I feel I don't belong. I rely on my intuition a lot and it never lets me down. My world has always been so different from other peoples' and I resonate with so few. They just don't get me because they don't take the time to get to know me - I guess it is just too much to ask of them in this fast-paced world. I love my solitude because I can be at peace with myself. At seventy four I am finally letting go of wanting to be understood. Thank you for this great video, it is wonderful to know there are people out there just ike me :)
Haha, yes! You try to be objective and think about everything from multiple points of view, and then everyone's like "oooh you're overthinking, just make up your mind"! It's like people have no patience to actually analyse an issue and figure out the objective facts. It's all based on first impressions and feelings. And i mean yeah, i have those too, but i also know most of the time they're not reflecting the actual truth. Otherwise I'd for ever mistrust everyone because i have an extremely sensitive lying/BS radar. I have to be willing to think "wait, ok, they're clearly not being honest right now but are they actually doing it with malevolent intent? What's causing it? Are they just being this way to be likable/part of a group? Are they hiding anxiety?" Etc etc etc