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@@richardruff8712 the japs, in general, are not apt to display emotions. So it would be somewhat inappropriate to have everyone act like they are in a latin soap opera. That being said, they did put her in situations where her acting would shine. There were also quite a few scenes where mariko could have done a bit better, including the scene where she stood up to lord ishido, the fight in the gates, and her final scene.
@@richardruff8712 Stoicism is an emotion too. The Lady Mariko role was also performed well. Lady Ochiba, well, damn it all to hell, if you don't see emotion in her acting...
@@gengis01 Well, I guess that, if you ask ten people, then you will get ten different answers... I just feel that Moeka Hoshi was able to put a natural acting talent into her role, possibly with more effect on the audience, compared to the other actors.... It seems that, around the world, very many viewers also agree with my ' take ' on cutie Fujiko....?
Yeah. In every scene she’s in, there’s always something that stood out if I just pay attention to her face. How she smirk a little when apologizing to Mariko, and how her eyelid moves when she took a deep breath swallowing her pride.
@@constantinelheman Yes, agreed, she has a very pretty face, and those eyes ...!... I also agree that, at 1:06 to 1:07 where she closes her eyes, and that flicker movement of her eyelids, is absolutely stunning... Very difficult to do it.... Anyone can try, but almost impossible to copy it...
@@dandansfu Yes, certainly... Moeka Hoshi is very sweet... But I think that Anna Sawai is playing a strict and hard personality...... Maybe she is like the ' Ice Maiden ' , compared to cutie Fujiko...
It’s weird how being the only woman in the show allowed to be nice and likeable will play with the audience. I feel sorry for Mariko’s actress, she’s doing what she can with what she’s given but Christ, the writers are mauling her character.
@@readsomebooks666 Yes, agree totally...I think that Fujiko is allowed to display some real personality... I also think that Anna Sawai has a good personality elsewhere,.... but she has been instructed to play the part of the ' Ice Maiden ' in this production... In my opinion, all the other women seem to play a hard, robot style of acting, but Moeka Hoshi stands out as the very sweet and charming young lady... Maybe this is why millions of fans all love Fujiko....
@@richardruff8712 But the Ice Maiden role is appropriate. And her ever present stoic, neutral facial tones is what made the scene when she tells Ishido off so powerful by contrast.
This parallels Taka's character in Last Samurai. Having to serve a demeaning task of being subservient to a foreigner. Especially after having lost loved ones tragically.
Well were do you think the premise for The Last Samurai came from? It borrowed heavily from the Shogun novel. It's like Halo, StarCraft and Warhammer 40K Borrowing heavily from the Starship Trooper novels. Halo/Starcraft in Particular have three primary races, humanoids with power armor, an advance religious like race, and a parasitic bug like race. I mean.. they're literally just Starship Troopers but with their own lore. Warhammer 40k has these things as well though it's far more expansive, but it came from the same source, Starship Troopers.
The Warhammer 40k universe was inspired much more by Dune, though starship troopers was ones of the many other universes that were drawn from in building the many specific details.
Little did she know that in the end, she will form a beautiful friendship with Blackthorne. I like the scene where they went on the boat and put his husband and child's ashes in the sea where she can look at them forever.
The 3 leads aside Moeka Hoshi is a standout for me. Yes Yabushige is pretty solid; I've been a big fan of him for many many years, I know he'll do great. But I sit up when Fuji comes on screen!
@@richardruff8712can you just stop this agenda against Mariko? Been seeing your bs comments all over. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with her character’s stoic personality, especially in that era where ladies were expected to reel in their emotions. She showed strength at all the necessary moments, and was composed always. So acting like she was this bland character is just so dishonest.
@@chisomo8088 Thank you for your interesting comment... I fully respect your opinion, and we all have the right to state what we feel ( about ALL the characters on this production..) Actually, I do not have an ' agenda ' against Anna Sawai, as Mariko... I believe that she was instructed to act in this style, and she gave the best performance that she was able to.... I am always comparing the 1980 version and the 2024 version... I, and many others, feel that the 1980 Mariko seemed to be a more ' friendly ' style, and will probably always be our favorite... I hope that you will be able to give your comment, to everyone else, who has also criticised 2024 Mariko and the other actors.... As many viewers have posted similar to my opinions...
IIRC, the strict definition of a barbarian is someone who speaks a different language, likely has a different culture. In that sense, both are correct. The belief that being different establishes inferiority/superiority is a common human assumption though. Otherwise, the word itself is neutral.
@@Yorushima yes i known , its from ancient greek (achaier, not those who call today greeks) and was for their north neighbours like tracian that saunded bar bar for them. Much later it got negative Kontext, most probably around the Persian Wars time
She is also superb in the series. Interestingly, she is an unknown in Japanese TV/Film industry. I can imagine the number of famous/experienced actors/actresses auditioned for all the roles. The casting team really did a great job.
Actually it was good for her she was given to Blackthorne as he treated women with respect, so she wouldn't have to get humiliated again after all she suffered.
@@somebodysmart1947 He didn't want a consort/concubine. Because this is how she was introduced to him. And he was disgusted by the fact that they just gave him a woman that is mourning his husband and infant child they killed as a servant. For a western man it was confusing, bizarre and felt inapropriate. Also his main interest was to have his ship and crew back not establish his life in Japan with all these people around. He got over it with time and accepted all he was given.
They took a lot of liberties with the book vs the series; in the book this discussion was between Toranaga and Fujiko, and he was masterful at getting her to agree with some enthusiasm, and was later rewarded for her loyalty.
I'm sure there were reasons that they chose to deviate from Clavell's masterpiece, but I can't help thinking that, in doing so, they sacrificed a bit of the richness and nuance of the characters as written.
I think the reason here is it makes more sense for Toronaga to use Mariko to ask this of Fujiko. It softens the blow to have another woman making the request. It also highlights his political skill because it shows he knows how to work through proxies
Mariko wasn't involved in the discussion with Fujiko. Toranaga did that directly as her liege lord. Why they made this change is beyond me, unless they wanted to avoid male domination over the women.
Well, Toranaga is still boss and Japan is still rather patriarchal hellhole, but perhaps the goal is to show us that Torunaga has this thing called social inteligence. By sending as his emissary Mariko he ensures acceptance of his will and preventing ill will between him and Fujiko.
It could be because Fuji would take it easier from someone she could relate to i.e. another woman. It could also be to avoid Fuji harboring ill will against Torunaga. IT COOOULD also be a storytelling device to show the intrigue of women's relationships and influence.
@@SharonVeeLee Could be. But the book shows a stronger Fujiko as she bargains Toranaga down to six months. Such bargaining with her liege lord shows how firm she was in her belief. It was wasted on Mariko.
@@SharonVeeLee Your last 'could be' is probably close to the truth. Toranaga delegated some things to Mariko in the book (e.g., conversations with Gyoko over Kiku) but these were not samurai to samurai events. Too, it may have been a way to combine two scenes into one. Toranaga ordered Fujiko's husband's death, so it was more likely that he handle Fujiko directly in this manner, vice delegating it to Mariko. Toranaga was her liege lord, so the job had to fall to him. BTW, don't you see how the change altered how we see Fujiko's character? It's one thing to complain to Mariko (her aunt, if memory serves) and quite another to argue with Toranaga face to face as she actually did. She showed real courage and character in her exchanges with Toranaga on the matter. Maybe they tried to make up for it in the guns episode. It was Mariko's idea to have Blackthorne give the guns to Fujiko, not Fujiko's. After Omi backed down, she did extend her care of Blackthorne by presenting him with her family's swords, bringing the question of his samurai status to the forefront. I fear in the series we will see Fujiko develop into the same kind of manly woman as Mariko. Too bad: in overcoming her fears and revulsion, she defines for us the meaning of being a samurai, even though she's a woman. And she does so using her brains. Women are so much more effective using female weapons, not those of a man.
Not gonna lie, I don't think many girls would be able to do what this character did, she literally lost her husband and her freaking baby and now she's told to become a wife of a foreigner, that's bruuuuutal 😬💔💔💔.
In Japan at that time, white people were sometimes seen on a par with beasts. In those days, Fuji had to marry a white man, even if it was the order of his lord, so there must have been a great deal of anguish. Even though it is a story within a drama, it makes you think. 当時の日本では、白人は獣と同列に見られる事もありました。そういう時代に、フジは主君の命令であれ、白人と結婚することになったのですから、かなりの苦悩があったでしょう。ドラマの中の物語と言っても、考えさせられます。
Yes and no if her husband had died honorable in combat she’s have been given much more leeway but as he died in disgrace and took his line down with him in the power structure of the samurai she’s basically little better then a commoner now what her lord was doing out of loyalty to her father was trying to give her some status back
@@reyesdelavega3105above mentioned took his line with him they killed the baby out of mercy because he wouldent be a samuri not even a roain as no one would train him for the actions of his father meaning hed more then likly starve or be killed out of burried resent ment byu the lower class hed be forced to live with
Mariko and Anjin had developed a closeness and intimacy, Mariko being the only person that Blackthorne could talk with on a personal level, because they both spoke Portuguese (Mariko only speaks Portuguese and Japanese) and she was his tutor in Japanese. Which means that they were together night and day. She sees in him, intelligence and kindness, eagerness to learn and understand her culture. Treats her and women, servants, commoners with dignity and respect. He has been given the rank of Hatamoto which makes him, not a barbarian. This is not what she is familiar with and so she is intrigued and becomes close enough to him that she would go through with pillowing, as her husband(she thinks) is dead. And it relieves Fuji from having to do something she is unwilling to do. Dances with Wolves had a similar dynamic between Dunbar (Costner) and Stands With a Fist(McDonnell) who was captured as a child by the Lakota. She became an interpreter for Kicking Bird who wanted to find out information about the White man's military and government. Toronaga had in Mariko a similar informant, realizing the amount of knowledge about the Portuguese, the Spaniards and the Catholics keep secret that Blackthorn had knowledge of.
@@clare5one Ah yes...thank you, I forgot. I think that in the original series, Mariko and Blackthorne spoke in Latin to each other romantically since it was unlikely any Japanese around them understood Latin.
“She’ll give six months.” “Ok, execute her for insubordination. Any other decent looking women around here?” I’m sorry but the idea of Fuji daring to say that to her Samurai liege Lord is painfully absurd.
@@Jinisinsane So... This will be of great interest to us all... Maybe a different storyline away from the book ?... I want to see Fujiko return to charm us all...
No no no,, the filthy stinking barbarian Anjin does NOT get Fuji LMAO yes, she is forced to live with him for a while but she is VERY unwilling, she bitterly hates him, and he forced her into bed anyway,, and when she finds herself pregnant from the disgusting barbarian's she commits suicide by throwing herself off the cliff to join her HUSBAND in death, rather than being forced to give birth to her rapist's spawn.
@@jessicaregina1956 Yes, that seems to be the case... So, if Mariko was about late 20's or older, then she would have been considered to be an older lady ?
@@virginiascurti5036 Yes, my good old Coronet paperback book has had all 1244 pages well read, since the 1980's... IMO, both the 1980 and 2024 versions, have veered away from the story, by having two rather pretty actresses play the part of Fuji or Fujiko... I don't think that any viewers can dispute that Moeka Hoshi has been able to put a lot of ' personality ' into her role, and so many of us consider her to be a little cutie lady....
Why the crap did they change this? This is a negotiation between Torinaga and Fujiko... and no one feels sorry for Makio losing Buntaro; only that he might have been denied the honorable death at the dock... and having her counter-offer? If you think you are smarter than the author of a book: don't adapt his book. I understand that some things will change from book to screen... the nature of the medium... but there's no medium-related reason for this change. The more I see of this, the more I think the people who made this show actively dislike the book they are adapting.
I’m good with it. More realistic depiction of who would’ve had the conversation with Fujiko. Hiroyuki Sanada mentioned the series shades toward Japanese cultural accuracy (vs. strict adherence to the novel).
considering the amount and quality of the effort they put into this series, with even die hard historians of Japanese culture and tradition praising it, i think they do justice to the book. a few alterations here and there is acceptable IMHO. but that's just my opinion of course.
The acting is fantastic. However, I dislike Anjin’s character arc. Unless there is a big reveal in the last chapters I don’t understand the need for his character.
фуджи саму нужно было назначить женой всех приезжих моряков,я думаю это было бы хорошо.какой нибудь вшивый и грязный моряк приплывает к японии и ему предоставляют фуджи саму как жену.если на корабле с десяток моряков,она будет женой всем однавременно.я бы на месте таранаги так и сделал
I rewatched the 1980 series before this show. It was very boring sometimes because there were so many unnecessary long scenes in the old series. I liked the 1980 series in the past but today I like the new version more. But both deserve a rank in TV history.
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This girl playing Fuji has become a star during this series. She is a big stand out.
Fujiko is the only actress that shows great emotion within her role... Cutie !
@@richardruff8712 the japs, in general, are not apt to display emotions. So it would be somewhat inappropriate to have everyone act like they are in a latin soap opera. That being said, they did put her in situations where her acting would shine. There were also quite a few scenes where mariko could have done a bit better, including the scene where she stood up to lord ishido, the fight in the gates, and her final scene.
@@richardruff8712 Stoicism is an emotion too. The Lady Mariko role was also performed well. Lady Ochiba, well, damn it all to hell, if you don't see emotion in her acting...
@@gengis01 Well, I guess that, if you ask ten people, then you will get ten different answers... I just feel that Moeka Hoshi was able to put a natural acting talent into her role, possibly with more effect on the audience, compared to the other actors.... It seems that, around the world, very many viewers also agree with my ' take ' on cutie Fujiko....?
And Uncle Yabushige. These two are my favorites.
The actress portraying Fuji is very good with her face expression.
Yes, she is very skilled at the emotion, and she is very cute and pretty... Many viewers consider this lady as the best actress in this series...
Yeah. In every scene she’s in, there’s always something that stood out if I just pay attention to her face.
How she smirk a little when apologizing to Mariko, and how her eyelid moves when she took a deep breath swallowing her pride.
@@constantinelheman Yes, agreed, she has a very pretty face, and those eyes ...!... I also agree that, at 1:06 to 1:07 where she closes her eyes, and that flicker movement of her eyelids, is absolutely stunning... Very difficult to do it.... Anyone can try, but almost impossible to copy it...
@@richardruff8712 I agree , actually think she is more captivating than the main actress
@@dandansfu Yes, certainly... Moeka Hoshi is very sweet... But I think that Anna Sawai is playing a strict and hard personality...... Maybe she is like the ' Ice Maiden ' , compared to cutie Fujiko...
Little did we all realise, she would become best girl and win our hearts.
It’s weird how being the only woman in the show allowed to be nice and likeable will play with the audience. I feel sorry for Mariko’s actress, she’s doing what she can with what she’s given but Christ, the writers are mauling her character.
@@readsomebooks666 L take
@@readsomebooks666 Yes, agree totally...I think that Fujiko is allowed to display some real personality... I also think that Anna Sawai has a good personality elsewhere,.... but she has been instructed to play the part of the ' Ice Maiden ' in this production... In my opinion, all the other women seem to play a hard, robot style of acting, but Moeka Hoshi stands out as the very sweet and charming young lady... Maybe this is why millions of fans all love Fujiko....
@@richardruff8712 But the Ice Maiden role is appropriate. And her ever present stoic, neutral facial tones is what made the scene when she tells Ishido off so powerful by contrast.
The actresses in this series are incredible….absolutely draw me in and convince me they are living the role.
Blackthorn got two of the best gal. What a lucky fellow
No, not really. After he got this VERY unwilling woman pregnant, she killed herself by throwing herself off a cliff.
What ???@@user-kf6lu4dn2r
He WHAT@@user-kf6lu4dn2r
@@user-kf6lu4dn2rIs her fate like this in the book? Damn, now I feel bad for her..
@@user-kf6lu4dn2rwtf?? they should change this in the show..
LOL.....mariko negotiate like my boss....
"She gives six months."
"I know. If I wanted a full year, I would have asked her to give three."
Very toranaga like 😄
This parallels Taka's character in Last Samurai. Having to serve a demeaning task of being subservient to a foreigner. Especially after having lost loved ones tragically.
I wonder if it will end the same way :)
Well were do you think the premise for The Last Samurai came from? It borrowed heavily from the Shogun novel. It's like Halo, StarCraft and Warhammer 40K Borrowing heavily from the Starship Trooper novels. Halo/Starcraft in Particular have three primary races, humanoids with power armor, an advance religious like race, and a parasitic bug like race. I mean.. they're literally just Starship Troopers but with their own lore. Warhammer 40k has these things as well though it's far more expansive, but it came from the same source, Starship Troopers.
I hope so :)@@Dkspardan
If we're following the books, she will end up taking her own life, I think.
The Warhammer 40k universe was inspired much more by Dune, though starship troopers was ones of the many other universes that were drawn from in building the many specific details.
Little did she know that in the end, she will form a beautiful friendship with Blackthorne. I like the scene where they went on the boat and put his husband and child's ashes in the sea where she can look at them forever.
pretty sure she is gonna be Blackthornes wife in season 2/2. would seme weird to be someone else.
@@MrChaosi there is no season 2 and probably never will be the show ended where it was supposed to more or less
@@shxmana they already confirmed 2 more seasons and are now on the works.
@@empoytekyo6981oh no the ending was to good to continue the series :(
@@MrChaosi 同意します！
The 3 leads aside Moeka Hoshi is a standout for me. Yes Yabushige is pretty solid; I've been a big fan of him for many many years, I know he'll do great. But I sit up when Fuji comes on screen!
She seems to be the only female star that actually shows some personality.. !
Yabu makes me laugh, Fuji makes me cry.
@@richardruff8712can you just stop this agenda against Mariko? Been seeing your bs comments all over. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with her character’s stoic personality, especially in that era where ladies were expected to reel in their emotions. She showed strength at all the necessary moments, and was composed always. So acting like she was this bland character is just so dishonest.
@@chisomo8088 Thank you for your interesting comment... I fully respect your opinion, and we all have the right to state what we feel ( about ALL the characters on this production..) Actually, I do not have an ' agenda ' against Anna Sawai, as Mariko... I believe that she was instructed to act in this style, and she gave the best performance that she was able to.... I am always comparing the 1980 version and the 2024 version... I, and many others, feel that the 1980 Mariko seemed to be a more ' friendly ' style, and will probably always be our favorite... I hope that you will be able to give your comment, to everyone else, who has also criticised 2024 Mariko and the other actors.... As many viewers have posted similar to my opinions...
too funny, they view him as barbarian, he views them as barbarians :D
That’s humans for ya. We ll value ourselves highly.
IIRC, the strict definition of a barbarian is someone who speaks a different language, likely has a different culture. In that sense, both are correct.
The belief that being different establishes inferiority/superiority is a common human assumption though. Otherwise, the word itself is neutral.
@@Yorushima yes i known , its from ancient greek (achaier, not those who call today greeks) and was for their north neighbours like tracian that saunded bar bar for them. Much later it got negative Kontext, most probably around the Persian Wars time
Yes, that was at the start of the book... By the end of the book, both sides had reluctantly altered their opinions...
Oh you do know@@chrissobiech2677
Like the gust of a wind,
It passed too quickly,
I want more Fuji-sama.
Take away a few syllables, and you've got a haiku there.
She is also superb in the series. Interestingly, she is an unknown in Japanese TV/Film industry. I can imagine the number of famous/experienced actors/actresses auditioned for all the roles. The casting team really did a great job.
Toranaga: one year.
Fujiko-sama: best I can do is half.
Actually it was good for her she was given to Blackthorne as he treated women with respect, so she wouldn't have to get humiliated again after all she suffered.
To be fair, Fuji was a noble lady in good standing, and was unlikely to be disrespected by any noble Japanese man she'd encounter.
lol initially he doesn't like her at all trying to push her away and want any to do with her until he lost his main girl mariko
@@somebodysmart1947 He didn't want a consort/concubine. Because this is how she was introduced to him. And he was disgusted by the fact that they just gave him a woman that is mourning his husband and infant child they killed as a servant. For a western man it was confusing, bizarre and felt inapropriate. Also his main interest was to have his ship and crew back not establish his life in Japan with all these people around. He got over it with time and accepted all he was given.
They took a lot of liberties with the book vs the series; in the book this discussion was between Toranaga and Fujiko, and he was masterful at getting her to agree with some enthusiasm, and was later rewarded for her loyalty.
I'm sure there were reasons that they chose to deviate from Clavell's masterpiece, but I can't help thinking that, in doing so, they sacrificed a bit of the richness and nuance of the characters as written.
...yeah... with Seppuku.
Maybe, but the reaction she showed in the series is more plausible
I think the reason here is it makes more sense for Toronaga to use Mariko to ask this of Fujiko. It softens the blow to have another woman making the request. It also highlights his political skill because it shows he knows how to work through proxies
Fuji san actress is so cute though. Like a button.
Yes, we all love fujiko... Moeka Hoshi is the ' discovered ' star of this show !
Mariko smiles when talking about her husband death.
From not wanting to serve "Barbarian" to becoming John Blackthorne's best friend through the entire series
Yes, if there will be a Season 2, then Fuji ... MUST ... come back... The fans will demand it....
"The worst she could say is no"
Brilliant actresses!!
All the Japanese characters are very good - the Blackthorne character is not...
@@ericworst i think so too. He's a little bit flat. But i like him episode by episode.
@@ericworst I would suggest that Cosmo would be better suited for a part in Stargate SG1 with Jack O'neill and co.....
@@ericworst He is much better than Chamberlain from the 1980 series in my opinion.
@@ericworst No way, Cosmo Jarvis was fantastic, had me counting down the seconds until the next episode came out
Cut to: "She'll give 6 months." lol So bold, Usami Fuji.
I got Rick from Pawn Stars vibes when Mariko informed Toronaga that Fuji will only give six months.
Best character in the show.
Both ladies were amazing ❤
Fuji sama best waifu
We all love Fujiko...!
waifu lol hahaha
Mariko wasn't involved in the discussion with Fujiko. Toranaga did that directly as her liege lord. Why they made this change is beyond me, unless they wanted to avoid male domination over the women.
Well, Toranaga is still boss and Japan is still rather patriarchal hellhole, but perhaps the goal is to show us that Torunaga has this thing called social inteligence. By sending as his emissary Mariko he ensures acceptance of his will and preventing ill will between him and Fujiko.
@@filipmaly6603are matriarchal hell holes Better?
It could be because Fuji would take it easier from someone she could relate to i.e. another woman. It could also be to avoid Fuji harboring ill will against Torunaga. IT COOOULD also be a storytelling device to show the intrigue of women's relationships and influence.
@@SharonVeeLee Could be. But the book shows a stronger Fujiko as she bargains Toranaga down to six months. Such bargaining with her liege lord shows how firm she was in her belief. It was wasted on Mariko.
@@SharonVeeLee Your last 'could be' is probably close to the truth. Toranaga delegated some things to Mariko in the book (e.g., conversations with Gyoko over Kiku) but these were not samurai to samurai events. Too, it may have been a way to combine two scenes into one.
Toranaga ordered Fujiko's husband's death, so it was more likely that he handle Fujiko directly in this manner, vice delegating it to Mariko. Toranaga was her liege lord, so the job had to fall to him.
BTW, don't you see how the change altered
how we see Fujiko's character? It's one thing to complain to Mariko (her aunt, if memory serves) and quite another to argue with Toranaga face to face as she actually did. She showed real courage and character in her exchanges with Toranaga on the matter.
Maybe they tried to make up for it in the guns episode. It was Mariko's idea to have Blackthorne give the guns to Fujiko, not Fujiko's. After Omi backed down, she did extend her care of Blackthorne by presenting him with her family's swords, bringing the question of his samurai status to the forefront.
I fear in the series we will see Fujiko develop into the same kind of manly woman as Mariko. Too bad: in overcoming her fears and revulsion, she defines for us the meaning of being a samurai, even though she's a woman. And she does so using her brains. Women are so much more effective using female weapons, not those of a man.
Fuji just didn't know that John would be kind to her and wouldn't hurt her and that they would become friends.
Fuji would win a cosplay anytime.
The actress who plays Usami is hella cute.
Yes, we all think that Moeka Hoshi ( Fujiko ) is sooooo cute !
Fuji is hella cute though. 😁
Fuji did a little pout.
Not gonna lie, I don't think many girls would be able to do what this character did, she literally lost her husband and her freaking baby and now she's told to become a wife of a foreigner, that's bruuuuutal 😬💔💔💔.
1 year = 6months
she clearly hated to do so, yet she accepted with negotiated terms. don't know if anything's wrong with that.
Anyway Anjin is willing to stay for 6 months to train soldiers.
Beautiful japanese fuji
I am on Team Fuji-Sama. She says '6 months only', then 6 months only it must be.
Im curious to know exactly what are the duties of a consort in that era?
Magnificent expressions my Fuji sama have..
Poor Fuji just CANNOT catch a break.
Cuteness of Fuji melts my heart ❤
The Viking was the Barbarians born in Greenland 🇬🇱 we are all mixed 🇹🇨
"I beg you, take this sentence off my head."
(removes subtitles)
There you go.
Im very skeptical about this (since nowadays series tend to be trash) but this one seems to be a must watch 🤔
In Japan at that time, white people were sometimes seen on a par with beasts. In those days, Fuji had to marry a white man, even if it was the order of his lord, so there must have been a great deal of anguish. Even though it is a story within a drama, it makes you think.
当時の日本では、白人は獣と同列に見られる事もありました。そういう時代に、フジは主君の命令であれ、白人と結婚することになったのですから、かなりの苦悩があったでしょう。ドラマの中の物語と言っても、考えさせられます。
there's no human rights in medieval time
That's not true. There were human rights. The question is, did they consider you a human or not.
Nothing has changed.
Yes and no if her husband had died honorable in combat she’s have been given much more leeway but as he died in disgrace and took his line down with him in the power structure of the samurai she’s basically little better then a commoner now what her lord was doing out of loyalty to her father was trying to give her some status back
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alright.what about the baby?
@@reyesdelavega3105above mentioned took his line with him they killed the baby out of mercy because he wouldent be a samuri not even a roain as no one would train him for the actions of his father meaning hed more then likly starve or be killed out of burried resent ment byu the lower class hed be forced to live with
Fuji best nun
She lost her hubby and baby
I can be both for her
Pervert! Go for it!🤣
Her hot head idiot hubby had it coming.
Six months before ya'll do it or it will just be what it is and what it always was
So, this is the reason why Mariko slept with Anjin instead? She took pity on Fuji.
Mariko and Anjin had developed a closeness and intimacy, Mariko being the only person that Blackthorne could talk with on a personal level, because they both spoke Portuguese (Mariko only speaks Portuguese and Japanese) and she was his tutor in Japanese. Which means that they were together night and day. She sees in him, intelligence and kindness, eagerness to learn and understand her culture. Treats her and women, servants, commoners with dignity and respect. He has been given the rank of Hatamoto which makes him, not a barbarian. This is not what she is familiar with and so she is intrigued and becomes close enough to him that she would go through with pillowing, as her husband(she thinks) is dead. And it relieves Fuji from having to do something she is unwilling to do. Dances with Wolves had a similar dynamic between Dunbar (Costner) and Stands With a Fist(McDonnell) who was captured as a child by the Lakota. She became an interpreter for Kicking Bird who wanted to find out information about the White man's military and government. Toronaga had in Mariko a similar informant, realizing the amount of knowledge about the Portuguese, the Spaniards and the Catholics keep secret that Blackthorn had knowledge of.
@@sanseiryu Lady Mariko also spoke Latin.
@@clare5one Ah yes...thank you, I forgot. I think that in the original series, Mariko and Blackthorne spoke in Latin to each other romantically since it was unlikely any Japanese around them understood Latin.
“She’ll give six months.”
“Ok, execute her for insubordination. Any other decent looking women around here?”
I’m sorry but the idea of Fuji daring to say that to her Samurai liege Lord is painfully absurd.
Why? What she had to loose at that point?
@@Jarni1979 Not supposed to do ANYTHING but obey Lord Toranaga...
It just sunk in to me that Fuji's actress is the soapland girl in Million Yen Women! So that's why I have a crush on her! XD
I can't believe she had a choice at all anyway. Good for her for the rebuttal.
Is there a chance for mariko to come back alive in s2? I dont mind if she becomes part cyborg tbh.
So sorry... No season 2.... Not even for a cyborg !!!!!
@@richardruff8712 season 2 has been confirmed so theres a chance for marikotron to appear.
@@Jinisinsane So... This will be of great interest to us all... Maybe a different storyline away from the book ?... I want to see Fujiko return to charm us all...
Fuji is destined to be Johns wife, unlike Mariko, who’s only destiny is to die by the sword.
No no no,, the filthy stinking barbarian Anjin does NOT get Fuji LMAO yes, she is forced to live with him for a while but she is VERY unwilling, she bitterly hates him, and he forced her into bed anyway,, and when she finds herself pregnant from the disgusting barbarian's she commits suicide by throwing herself off the cliff to join her HUSBAND in death, rather than being forced to give birth to her rapist's spawn.
Bomb, actually.
@@projektkobra2247didnt they imply that fuji commit seppuku after the 6 months in the novel? Havent read in a while.
@@Orange2Timess Its not depicted, but left open, esp. since she is pregnant with his baby in the book.
@@projektkobra2247 guess it depends on what the showriters will do here.
Fuji: The best Wifu.
Anyone else think the other actress, not Fuji's actress, looks a LOT like Lena Headey? Because she keeps making me think of her in this scene
Do you mean... Sarah Connor ?
私だったら天国の赤ちゃんのところに早く行きたい🤮becouse,I love my baby...
For anyone too lazy to read the source material. Fuji is 19 in the source.😂
For those of us who HAVE read the book several times, I cannot recall how old Mariko was supposed to be ? ... Anybody know ?
And 19 is considered old back then, if u were 16 , u were ripe for marriage
@@jessicaregina1956 Yes, that seems to be the case... So, if Mariko was about late 20's or older, then she would have been considered to be an older lady ?
Yes, its a thing in older chinese songs for the singer to lament not being married at 17-18 🤣
@@jessicaregina1956So probably the life expectancy in Japan, at that time, was probably no more than 45 to 50 years ?
Her husband killed her baby and himself and people expect her to bed another..
This scene never took place between these two characters it was Tornaga and Fuji. Mariko had no authority over her.
Yes, true... I guess that you have read the book, also...?
@@richardruff8712 Yes repeatedly!
@@virginiascurti5036 Yes, my good old Coronet paperback book has had all 1244 pages well read, since the 1980's... IMO, both the 1980 and 2024 versions, have veered away from the story, by having two rather pretty actresses play the part of Fuji or Fujiko... I don't think that any viewers can dispute that Moeka Hoshi has been able to put a lot of ' personality ' into her role, and so many of us consider her to be a little cutie lady....
Why the crap did they change this? This is a negotiation between Torinaga and Fujiko... and no one feels sorry for Makio losing Buntaro; only that he might have been denied the honorable death at the dock... and having her counter-offer? If you think you are smarter than the author of a book: don't adapt his book. I understand that some things will change from book to screen... the nature of the medium... but there's no medium-related reason for this change.
The more I see of this, the more I think the people who made this show actively dislike the book they are adapting.
I’m good with it. More realistic depiction of who would’ve had the conversation with Fujiko. Hiroyuki Sanada mentioned the series shades toward Japanese cultural accuracy (vs. strict adherence to the novel).
fuji doesnt feel sorry about her losing buntaro, she feels sorry about the dishonor felt by Makio over her family siht
considering the amount and quality of the effort they put into this series, with even die hard historians of Japanese culture and tradition praising it, i think they do justice to the book. a few alterations here and there is acceptable IMHO. but that's just my opinion of course.
waifu material❤
The acting is fantastic. However, I dislike Anjin’s character arc. Unless there is a big reveal in the last chapters I don’t understand the need for his character.
This reminds us that everyone regardless of skin can be a racist, even if it is a fictional depiction. Its still something very real
What
She is pretty paled skinned to be honest, so it should be consider as a subtype of white racism 😝
wtf she like jisoo blackpink twin xD
фуджи саму нужно было назначить женой всех приезжих моряков,я думаю это было бы хорошо.какой нибудь вшивый и грязный моряк приплывает к японии и ему предоставляют фуджи саму как жену.если на корабле с десяток моряков,она будет женой всем однавременно.я бы на месте таранаги так и сделал
Shogun 1980 12 hours long. Shogun 2024 a little under 6 hours long. You decide.
Shogun 2024 is 10 hours long. Only6 have been aired so far. There are 4 to go until the end of April.
I rewatched the 1980 series before this show. It was very boring sometimes because there were so many unnecessary long scenes in the old series. I liked the 1980 series in the past but today I like the new version more. But both deserve a rank in TV history.
Oh God... i wish that there'd be a scene wherein these two would just kiss.
What the heeeellll
Good lord, new jav theme unlock thanks shogun
Don't think that was in the book ?
I Would've used her 24/7🥰😍to be a hatamoto☺