I think in Fuji’s heart, she knew Blackthorne wasn’t actually commanding her to stay. It was his way of begging her to stay. She knew he would miss her and let him down nicely.
@@AndrewLonergan-sp1ec True, he didn’t have the authority, but with how much he respected Fuji at that point, it was sort of a ploy to hide him pleading for her to stay.
He wasn’t saying it in a bad way, it was the only way he could say he wants her to stay as he would miss her especially after losing his true love Mariko. He would be alone in the village.
It was a short marriage forced by the authorities with each other in the presence of another loved one, but in the end, it seems that they became true friends who respected and understood each other. From now on, Fuji, who will shave her head and become a nun for the memorial service of her deceased husband and son, and will leave the mundane world and live the rest of her life only in the nunnery temple, will never see Anjin again. However, the fact that they were able to find hope in the midst of a harsh fate is the only salvation for these two people.
Honestly, more the end of a business relationship - although even that's far from accurate. A Consort a title specifically to the legal wife of a lord, but it's more rooted in duty, service, and politics than anything romantic. At least that's how it typically goes when political marriages are the norm.
Usami no Fuji is, in my mind, the only character in the series who leaves the stage on his/her terms. She is more free than any other character, including Toranaga. I think the writers of Shogun found a soft spot for her and decided that she should leave with her head held high. Moeka Hoshi's performance will always stay in my mind. Quiet strength and dignity in the face of adversity. I hope that she finds other roles where she will be able to give us great performances like this one.
@@einezcrespo2107 I think that the writers wanted to give Fuji some poetic justice after all that she had been through. They also wanted to give the viewers one happy ending in a series where many men and women are either killed or commit suicide. Outside of Mariko and a few others, the women who die in this series are all innocent victims. Fuji had several chances to die before she came to serve the Anjin and she did not take them. I believe that a woman of that era would have chosen the security of a household, even if that meant marrying the Anjin, over the monastery. In those days, life in a buddhist monastery meant a change of name, shaving your head bald, spending hours in prayer and always begging for alms from the local population. It could not have been an easy transition for a woman, especially one coming from the same social class as Fuji.
@@vintibo Agreed... This has been a rather ' dark ' production throughout... I have a theory... There has been so much love for Fujiko shown in so many YT channels, and elsewhere... I think the producers realized that this woman is so popular, that they have written an extra scene, in the boat... So there can be a lovely ending for Fujiko... I believe this is extra, as there is nobody else in the scene, and so it was easy to make the production... Fujiko is such a sweet character, and we are all happy for her....
I would like to conclude with a historical story. Miura Anjin then served as a military adviser to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) in the major wars of the Osaka Winter and Summer, and was used as a HATAMOTO until the death of Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) in 1616. He remarried the daughter of a local magnate near Edo Castle and had one son and one daughter. After the death of Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga), he was shunned by his successor, Tokugawa Hidetada, and Anjin's later years were unfortunate. Although he had several chances to return to England, he declined to return due to a conflict with the captain of a British ship that came to Japan. In 1620, in Hirado, Nagasaki Prefecture, Anjin died of illness. And it is unclear whether a woman like Fuji actually existed or not, since there are no historical records left. And no one will know whether Anjin actually stayed in Japan of his own will "as a samurai" until his death, or whether he continued to have hopes of returning to England.
Shunned is a big word. "Not that interested in him" is more appropriate but Hidetada still treated him with respect and favored him even though he was growing more distrustful of christians overall.
Fuji character do not exist, it was made up for the story. unlike Marizo, Blackthrone, Toranaga, Omi etc. even his half brother of Toranaga inspired from real historical people..
@@GiyuTomiokaTheOneAndOnly in the story-universe, anytime you hear english, it's actually portuguese. it was for convenience cos it's an American production made for western audiences (so say the producers)
Did anyone else get this overwhelming sense of comfort when Fuji showed up in this scene? I felt dejected after witnessing all the trauma that blackthorn went through; then it happens: Fuji shows up on screen, sits next to blackthorn and somehow Fuji's presence was like a spring rain on a very hot day-refreshing and calming. I pray every man gets to feel that sense of comfort from their significant other. Fuji stole the show.
Reminds me of Donald Fagen talking about Aja: "He has described the song as being about the 'tranquility that can come of a quiet relationship with a beautiful woman.'"
After living in Japan for close to five years, I've learned when a Japanese person says "I'm not sure what to do about it", they've already made a decision but they think you're not going to like it or it will make you uncomfortable, so they're trying to soften the blow by making it clear that they really struggled with the choice (even if they didn't).
I am so glad the director gave Fuji a better ending than before. She really didn't deserve her original fate, this really warms my heart to finally see her get something better.
To be fair, she insisted, and Toranaga was saddened that he could not change her mind. That being said, I am also glad her fate was changed in the series.
I am very pleased that this woman ( Moeka Hoshi ) got so much screen time as Fujiko, IMO she is the best female star, if not the best actor in the ensemble... From 0:39 to 0:46 she looks absolutely beautiful... She seems to have little make-up, far less than the other women.... Yet she portrays a nice, normal looking lady... Personally, I don't rate the other actors too highly, but I certainly hope that this young woman will get awards, and possibly acting parts in other new films, etc... Many of us love Fujiko....
Lol *faceplam* this guy. "From 0:39 to 0:46 she looks absolutely beautiful IMO she is the best female star". Bro looks are not what makes a good actress.
Those of us who read the book know that Fuji's story of becoming a nun was just a ruse. She did not want Blackthorne to know that she would soon commit suicide. Those who did not read the book have the options of believing that she became a nun or stayed with Blackthorne after spreading the ashes at sea and making little Anjins with Blackthorne.
She mentioned to Mariko of her wishes to become a nun on the boat at the beginning of EP3. I think the writers made some changes. She seems to be the only character to get somewhat of a ""happy"" ending..
I'm very happy that they became and parted as friends who respected and understood each other. I think that if circumstances had been different and it wasn't the Sengoku period, given enough time they would've fallen in love with each other and been happy. That or they would've become lifelong friends, like platonic soulmates.
Lol I wouldn’t call ending your own life a good thing, but I’m glad she has an option to do so. It’s best if she goes off to become a nun which is the best ending for her character test at the end of all this.
In the 1980 series, Blackthorne and Mariko had great ' chemistry ' due to both being great and experienced actors... The same with 1980 Blackthorne and 1980 Fujiko.... But, in this 2024 production, I am convinced that Anna Sawai was instructed to act the part of Mariko, in the ' Ice Maiden ' style, which seemed to mean there was a ' distance ' between Anna and Cosmo throughout the series... But, as we have seen, Moeka Hoshi seems to have a wonderful acting talent, which she puts into her role so beautifully... It is my opinion, that the producers were eager to show a natural ' warmth ' between Moeka and Cosmo, and the final scene in the boat, was so lovely and gave us all, the sad - yet lovely - ending that we all wanted, especially for Fujiko... Such a cute lady.....
@@richardruff8712 I think they did well in showing how Mariko despite her composed demeanor, was more animated with Blackthorne. It wouldn't look like much unless compared to how she usually is. But I agree that Fuji was a much needed source of warmth and comfort in the show. As a viewer, losing her presence is worse than Mariko's death.
@@vanyadolly Then let us hope that, if the rumours are true about a season 2, or a spin off series.... That somehow, they can get Fujiko back from the monastery.... Remember, the book story and the 1980 version ended at the final battle...So, in a way, has this 2024 version.... So there is nothing to stop the writers from bringing back our favorite girl, Fujiko... I would suggest a storyline, where Blackthorne petitions Toranaga to allow Fujiko to become his wife, and Blackthorne promises to stay in Japan, and supervise the building of a Western style fleet of ships.... This would probably be fairly close to the known facts about Adams....
@@richardruff8712 I think it's best to leave shows like this alone, but I would definitively tune in for another season. Especially if they brought Fuji back. Even if the novel ends there, there is plenty of history to draw from, like lady Ochiba's defence of Osaka castle.
Its been a while since i watched the 1980's version but Fuji or her equivalent hooks up with one of his samurai and requested his permission to marry; which he did he was mourning Mariko and was not really interested in anything
Yes, I have been commenting, almost from episode 1, that they should have switched the actors around for Mariko and Fujiko... Anna Sawai would have been a good ' Ice Maiden ' Fujiko, and Moeka Hoshi would have made a fantastic Mariko... I'm sure that Cosmo Jarvis would have had more interaction, if Moeka Hoshi had been in the leading lady role... Just my opinion...
@@richardruff8712 Another way to look at it is the "Game of Thrones" slow cooking switcharoo. They did kill Mariko off after all and reintroduced Fuji right after. IDK, I only know what I've seen so far. If The roles had been reversed, our favourite would be dead now.
@@QualeQualeson Yes, agreed......But, at least, for 9 episodes, we would have had regular, major appearance of Fujiko/Mariko for us all to admire and enjoy this delightful lady... ( if that makes sense )
Why is everyone convinced that Fuji is still going to become a nun? She was going to be a nun to be near her family's remains in the temple. Wasn't the whole point of the boat scene that Fuji can now choose to stay in the village by the sea, and still be close to her family? I thought it a was hail mary move by Blackthorne to get her to stay.
Her fate in the book is vastly different where Toranaga grants her wish to end her life. Fuji or Fujiko in the novel did her duty to Toranaga, her late husband and only child. Blackthorne is implied to marry someone else.
I dont know if it was a hail mary move by Blackthorne or just him being kind. but the whole boat scene with both them of letting go of their loved ones. The way it was shot/edited. To me atleast, implies she probalky chosses to stay around blackthone, instead of becoming a nun. best comparsion would be like in LOTR :return of the king where Faramir and Éowyn share glanses and you know something is gonna happen between those to in the future.
I think you got it backward that the family's temple the traditional resting place would be in a different place than a full fledged temple where she would go to be a nun and she was conflicted. When Blackthorne came up with a burial at sea ideal so she could just look at the ocean to be near her husband and child.
Is it not implied that Fuji may remain in the village close to the sea? I thought the whole scene on the boat was about Blackthorne trying to convince Fuji to stay.
In the book it is implied John marries Kiku. It does somehow fit since William Adam's Japanese wife was a commoner and a daughter of a highway official.
I honestly get a little cheery but sad when Fuji simply says “yes” to him. It’s like she is slowly learning English or Portuguese and can understand if he speaks it.
Somehow this was the most heartbreaking scene in the show for me. After everything that happens, you think "at least he's home with Fuji-sama now". 😭 I really wish she would have stayed. I think they would have been happy with the deep care and respect they had for each other, even if it wasn't love.
I haven't read the book, but I certainly didn't take it that way in the series, especially after she appears to make peace in letting the remains of her family go. Additionally, the characters in the show (and book) are generally built around the experiences of real people. Becoming a Buddhist nun, perhaps most famously in the case of Lady Sen, was certainly a realistic path considering her situation.
This scene brought me to tears...he lost Mariko, the woman he loved, he lost his ship and now he's losing Fuji, his consort. And though there was no chemistry between the two, he liked and respected her. She's a badass! And now she's leaving. 😟
If I remember correctly, in the book, she jumped off of a bridge, had permission to do so. She spoke to a watching soldier to tell Blackthorne that it was an accident.
@@BeeOppresion I still would recommend getting the book. Most of what was seen in both the 80's and current versions are faithful to the novel with some variant dramatic license. It's one of my favorite books.
I honestly can't fault the acting, the clothes are such a beautiful recreation of the time, and the story of the 2024 version skipped by the 1980's of the Spanish pilot and heavy religion that was mostly gone from this. My only gripe was the ending and nothing how Tokugawa Ieyasu became shogun and the taking of heads, also as if they ran out of money. If i was to give this out of 10, then without doubt it would be a solid 8.5 out of 10
It was the moment John lost everything that reminded him of the very short period of time he experienced peace & love with Mariko. 💔 he should have died with her in the explosion. 🥺
this was my one complaint of the finale. I’m not a fan of Fuji becoming a nun. Id like to have seen her remain his consort. I believe that would be true to history as well.
I think based on Blackthorn's Western civilities that it was somewhat out of character for him to try to "order" her to stay. I feel it would have been much more likely that he would clearly "ask" her to stay thus elevating her and demonstrating both regard and respect. I realize that some of us may feel that his newly acquired Japanese nature would call for the "order", but I think it feels unnatural coming from Blackthorn. I wish that he had asked her politely to stay and that she would have politely declined, perhaps followed by some small emotional token from both of them.
Given the context of this scene and the grief Blackthorne is experiencing, wanting Fuji to stay is not really because he wants her as her "consort" per se, but more of needing a friend. Because Mariko is dead, all he really has in his home is Fuji who can understand what he's going through despite the language barrier. So it would be natural for him to wanting her to stay so he won't feel lonely. But he did show her the idea of a sea burial for her husband and son, as a token of his gratitude.
It's about giving her an 'out.' If she was in any way being pressured to go to the monastery, she could use his order to trump that. Once she made clear that this was her decision, he accepted it.
The show's most charming character together with the weakest. For the life of me, I will never get over how badly they treated Anjin in the costume department - so drab and featureless. Though it is of a piece with the disrespect with which they treat him as a character.
Does somebody here speak Japanese? I often hear the affix “…masyry”, when actors speak but I don’t hear this in talks of modern Japanese people, usually just “-mas”. Is it because the actors spoke the old version of Japanese or what? Or is it my imagination…? I’m just asking, I don’t speak Japanese on any level…
I am Japanese. The way it is said in the drama is from the 1600s. In modern times, Gozaimasu is used as a polite word when serving customers, but Gozaimasuru is not used at the end. If you talk like that, you'll be laughed at (lol)
I am Japanese. If you are talking about "masuru", you are correct. "Masuru" is the old version of "masu". We don't use "masuru" anymore. We might use it jokingly in conversations with friends.
@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah You're welcome💖 Please come to Japan. Now that the cherry blossom season has passed, the next best time would be to see the autumn leaves.
You should all read the book. It’s fantastic. And Fuji even gets her wish to commit Seppuku in the end. They made it more pleasant ending for the TV show 😂😂
Sorry but this movie is far from Clavell's work that it's an act of vandalism. I am perpetually amazed by how much movie goers are either ignorant of the original material and willing to accept whatever a less talented screen writer will put out over the author.
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I think in Fuji’s heart, she knew Blackthorne wasn’t actually commanding her to stay. It was his way of begging her to stay. She knew he would miss her and let him down nicely.
They were a team in a way and the team was dismantled
I mean, he didnt have the authority to at that point either anyway. 6 months was up.
@@AndrewLonergan-sp1ec True, he didn’t have the authority, but with how much he respected Fuji at that point, it was sort of a ploy to hide him pleading for her to stay.
He wasn’t saying it in a bad way, it was the only way he could say he wants her to stay as he would miss her especially after losing his true love Mariko. He would be alone in the village.
@@georgeh4171 Yeah. I agree.
The look she gives him when he says she looks healthy and strong. It's kinda like, "Yea I know what you mean thanks."
I don't understand
@@jagernautsteelfist3648 he meant mentally
I only took it as she'd been horribly wounded in the quake when he'd seen her before and had now recovered..
@@mortredptaOWWW it's makes so much sense now
@@jagernautsteelfist3648it's a very Japanese way of showing affection and respect. The writing here is good.
It was a short marriage forced by the authorities with each other in the presence of another loved one, but in the end, it seems that they became true friends who respected and understood each other.
From now on, Fuji, who will shave her head and become a nun for the memorial service of her deceased husband and son, and will leave the mundane world and live the rest of her life only in the nunnery temple, will never see Anjin again. However, the fact that they were able to find hope in the midst of a harsh fate is the only salvation for these two people.
It wasn't a marriage. Consort is like a female head of house
@@patricktalbot8980 doesn't being consort literally mean being married?
@@patricktalbot8980 I believe op was using the term marriage to describe the situation, not their relationship status.
@@patricktalbot8980more like a personal assistant....?
@@mabinty4944nope a wife is a wife and a consort is what men would also use but not a wife
Fuji is the perfect example of a subtle character who slowly grows on you.
idk. i get what youre saying. but at the same time she steals most scenes
I knew it from the start.
Slowly? I was Team Fuji ever since she pointed the pistol
@@NTWoo95yesssss
@@NTWoo95me too. She’s a keeper.
This is probably the most peaceful divorce the world has ever seen
nah, not by a damn sight, no, but it is much more peaceful than many of the ugliest ones, particularly the ones enacted on screens to/for others.
Honestly, more the end of a business relationship - although even that's far from accurate. A Consort a title specifically to the legal wife of a lord, but it's more rooted in duty, service, and politics than anything romantic. At least that's how it typically goes when political marriages are the norm.
@@shreyas-mq4yd They're husband and wife, although just for formality
Usami no Fuji is, in my mind, the only character in the series who leaves the stage on his/her terms. She is more free than any other character, including Toranaga. I think the writers of Shogun found a soft spot for her and decided that she should leave with her head held high. Moeka Hoshi's performance will always stay in my mind. Quiet strength and dignity in the face of adversity. I hope that she finds other roles where she will be able to give us great performances like this one.
Totally agree.... The one female character, that we all seem to love... I hope she wins awards for her performance.... She is very sweet.....
Yes though in the novel she gets her wish to join her departed husband and son in death. I agree the writers wanted a different ending for Fuji.
@@einezcrespo2107 I think that the writers wanted to give Fuji some poetic justice after all that she had been through. They also wanted to give the viewers one happy ending in a series where many men and women are either killed or commit suicide. Outside of Mariko and a few others, the women who die in this series are all innocent victims. Fuji had several chances to die before she came to serve the Anjin and she did not take them. I believe that a woman of that era would have chosen the security of a household, even if that meant marrying the Anjin, over the monastery. In those days, life in a buddhist monastery meant a change of name, shaving your head bald, spending hours in prayer and always begging for alms from the local population. It could not have been an easy transition for a woman, especially one coming from the same social class as Fuji.
@@vintibo Agreed... This has been a rather ' dark ' production throughout... I have a theory... There has been so much love for Fujiko shown in so many YT channels, and elsewhere... I think the producers realized that this woman is so popular, that they have written an extra scene, in the boat... So there can be a lovely ending for Fujiko... I believe this is extra, as there is nobody else in the scene, and so it was easy to make the production... Fujiko is such a sweet character, and we are all happy for her....
She left with her head intact, which was more than could be said to many others loyal to Toranaga.
When he said "best nun" my mind said best girl.
Fuji, best, girl ❤
I would like to conclude with a historical story. Miura Anjin then served as a military adviser to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) in the major wars of the Osaka Winter and Summer, and was used as a HATAMOTO until the death of Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga) in 1616. He remarried the daughter of a local magnate near Edo Castle and had one son and one daughter.
After the death of Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga), he was shunned by his successor, Tokugawa Hidetada, and Anjin's later years were unfortunate. Although he had several chances to return to England, he declined to return due to a conflict with the captain of a British ship that came to Japan. In 1620, in Hirado, Nagasaki Prefecture, Anjin died of illness.
And it is unclear whether a woman like Fuji actually existed or not, since there are no historical records left.
And no one will know whether Anjin actually stayed in Japan of his own will "as a samurai" until his death, or whether he continued to have hopes of returning to England.
Well, that's depressing. I wonder why was he shunned after his service. Probably intolerance toward foreigners.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled...or maybe someone envious of his accomplishment (a foreigner) n pull some strings ....
Shunned is a big word. "Not that interested in him" is more appropriate but Hidetada still treated him with respect and favored him even though he was growing more distrustful of christians overall.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
家康は江戸から駿府(静岡)に移り名目上は引退しても実権は握り続けました。
結果、江戸には彼の息子、2代目将軍秀忠が君臨し二元政治が行われました。
秀忠は家康を非常に尊敬してましたが、父親の死後は自分の考えに合わない事を改めていきました。
一つが貿易の制限で三浦按針の希望とは逆の方針でした。
秀忠の子、3代将軍 家光は更にこの考えを進め、最終的にヨ一ロッパとの貿易をオランダ相手にのみ細々と続けます。按針の存在意義は殆んど失われてしまいました。
Fuji character do not exist, it was made up for the story. unlike Marizo, Blackthrone, Toranaga, Omi etc. even his half brother of Toranaga inspired from real historical people..
When Fuji the word "yes" in English it is so damn cute.
sick freak perv
you mean Portuguese ;)
@@jackleigh8586 so the word "Yes" is now proteguse ??
@@GiyuTomiokaTheOneAndOnly in the story-universe, anytime you hear english, it's actually portuguese. it was for convenience cos it's an American production made for western audiences (so say the producers)
@@jackleigh8586 Wasn’t he British though?
0:30 "Presence is felt most keenly in absence".
Fuji's smile is the death of me
2:13
1:39 so cute 😭
Did anyone else get this overwhelming sense of comfort when Fuji showed up in this scene? I felt dejected after witnessing all the trauma that blackthorn went through; then it happens: Fuji shows up on screen, sits next to blackthorn and somehow Fuji's presence was like a spring rain on a very hot day-refreshing and calming. I pray every man gets to feel that sense of comfort from their significant other.
Fuji stole the show.
Reminds me of Donald Fagen talking about Aja: "He has described the song as being about the 'tranquility that can come of a quiet relationship with a beautiful woman.'"
Yes. It broke my heart that she didn't stay, that would have made up for all the other grief. But at least she got the happy ending she wanted.
sad to see john not wanting to be left alone, but happy to see fuji have closure and get what she wanted🤍
After living in Japan for close to five years, I've learned when a Japanese person says "I'm not sure what to do about it", they've already made a decision but they think you're not going to like it or it will make you uncomfortable, so they're trying to soften the blow by making it clear that they really struggled with the choice (even if they didn't).
Our forever beloved Fuji-sama ❤️
We all want to join the FUJIKO Fan club...!
A great actress. It’s been fun watching a star being born.
That young lady stole the show, Bar none. I hope we hear more from her.
I am so glad the director gave Fuji a better ending than before. She really didn't deserve her original fate, this really warms my heart to finally see her get something better.
What was her original fate?
@@borgie8474 she jumped off a bridge with Toranaga's permission
@@bignerd5529Jesus Christ
@@bignerd5529well damn 😭
To be fair, she insisted, and Toranaga was saddened that he could not change her mind. That being said, I am also glad her fate was changed in the series.
I am very pleased that this woman ( Moeka Hoshi ) got so much screen time as Fujiko, IMO she is the best female star, if not the best actor in the ensemble... From 0:39 to 0:46 she looks absolutely beautiful... She seems to have little make-up, far less than the other women.... Yet she portrays a nice, normal looking lady... Personally, I don't rate the other actors too highly, but I certainly hope that this young woman will get awards, and possibly acting parts in other new films, etc... Many of us love Fujiko....
Lol *faceplam* this guy. "From 0:39 to 0:46 she looks absolutely beautiful IMO she is the best female star". Bro looks are not what makes a good actress.
@@HeinzFugenstie omg yeah, his comment gave off serious creepy vibes. All the the ensemble cast were great!
also he’s super ignorant if he thinks she’s not wearing makeup lmao
"No translator" 😢😢😢
Translator go BOOM. 💥
TRANSLATOR....BOOMBOOM....
At least she had a blast
@@jiminycriket TOO SOON
Those of us who read the book know that Fuji's story of becoming a nun was just a ruse. She did not want Blackthorne to know that she would soon commit suicide. Those who did not read the book have the options of believing that she became a nun or stayed with Blackthorne after spreading the ashes at sea and making little Anjins with Blackthorne.
One can always dream!
It's an adaptation. They've made some changes with the characters so it's entirely possible this Fuji settled for becoming a nun.
She mentioned to Mariko of her wishes to become a nun on the boat at the beginning of EP3. I think the writers made some changes. She seems to be the only character to get somewhat of a ""happy"" ending..
I'm very happy that they became and parted as friends who respected and understood each other. I think that if circumstances had been different and it wasn't the Sengoku period, given enough time they would've fallen in love with each other and been happy. That or they would've become lifelong friends, like platonic soulmates.
She lives!!! so happy for her. In the book she is permitted to end her life by Toranaga.
Lol I wouldn’t call ending your own life a good thing, but I’m glad she has an option to do so. It’s best if she goes off to become a nun which is the best ending for her character test at the end of all this.
Ya I like the nun ending better
Like this if you hoped Fuji sama would stay with Blackthrone. I did.
I like how politely Japanese people can argue
video title made me believe Fuji-san wants to become a Nun Shogun.
this was the shogun we all didnt expected we wanted all along
Fuji-sama, you look healthy and strong...and loyal and cute and beautiful and, damn it, you are the best wife any man can dream of!
Literally gasped when she came into scene
I felt that their relationship was more organic that him and mariko.
In the 1980 series, Blackthorne and Mariko had great ' chemistry ' due to both being great and experienced actors... The same with 1980 Blackthorne and 1980 Fujiko.... But, in this 2024 production, I am convinced that Anna Sawai was instructed to act the part of Mariko, in the ' Ice Maiden ' style, which seemed to mean there was a ' distance ' between Anna and Cosmo throughout the series... But, as we have seen, Moeka Hoshi seems to have a wonderful acting talent, which she puts into her role so beautifully... It is my opinion, that the producers were eager to show a natural ' warmth ' between Moeka and Cosmo, and the final scene in the boat, was so lovely and gave us all, the sad - yet lovely - ending that we all wanted, especially for Fujiko... Such a cute lady.....
@@richardruff8712 I think they did well in showing how Mariko despite her composed demeanor, was more animated with Blackthorne. It wouldn't look like much unless compared to how she usually is. But I agree that Fuji was a much needed source of warmth and comfort in the show. As a viewer, losing her presence is worse than Mariko's death.
@@vanyadolly Then let us hope that, if the rumours are true about a season 2, or a spin off series.... That somehow, they can get Fujiko back from the monastery.... Remember, the book story and the 1980 version ended at the final battle...So, in a way, has this 2024 version.... So there is nothing to stop the writers from bringing back our favorite girl, Fujiko... I would suggest a storyline, where Blackthorne petitions Toranaga to allow Fujiko to become his wife, and Blackthorne promises to stay in Japan, and supervise the building of a Western style fleet of ships.... This would probably be fairly close to the known facts about Adams....
@@richardruff8712 I think it's best to leave shows like this alone, but I would definitively tune in for another season. Especially if they brought Fuji back. Even if the novel ends there, there is plenty of history to draw from, like lady Ochiba's defence of Osaka castle.
Speaking japanese with no translator:
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Speaking japanese with no translator:
☠️☠️☠️😨😨😨😭😭😭
fuji sama, best nun
real anjin married a local japanese woman, and had two kids with her- he didnt have a love affair with Akechis daughter or got a "wife" by anyone.
Its been a while since i watched the 1980's version but Fuji or her equivalent hooks up with one of his samurai and requested his permission to marry; which he did he was mourning Mariko and was not really interested in anything
That was Omi-san and the willow world chick.
At the nunnery she will rekindle her fascination with fire arms and become a legendary gun fighter.
Mariko was great, but Fuji was my favourite from the start. It would be awesome if she sailed up as the primary female protagonist.
Yes, I have been commenting, almost from episode 1, that they should have switched the actors around for Mariko and Fujiko... Anna Sawai would have been a good ' Ice Maiden ' Fujiko, and Moeka Hoshi would have made a fantastic Mariko... I'm sure that Cosmo Jarvis would have had more interaction, if Moeka Hoshi had been in the leading lady role... Just my opinion...
@@richardruff8712 Another way to look at it is the "Game of Thrones" slow cooking switcharoo. They did kill Mariko off after all and reintroduced Fuji right after. IDK, I only know what I've seen so far. If The roles had been reversed, our favourite would be dead now.
@@QualeQualeson Yes, agreed......But, at least, for 9 episodes, we would have had regular, major appearance of Fujiko/Mariko for us all to admire and enjoy this delightful lady... ( if that makes sense )
Why is everyone convinced that Fuji is still going to become a nun? She was going to be a nun to be near her family's remains in the temple. Wasn't the whole point of the boat scene that Fuji can now choose to stay in the village by the sea, and still be close to her family? I thought it a was hail mary move by Blackthorne to get her to stay.
Her fate in the book is vastly different where Toranaga grants her wish to end her life. Fuji or Fujiko in the novel did her duty to Toranaga, her late husband and only child. Blackthorne is implied to marry someone else.
I dont know if it was a hail mary move by Blackthorne or just him being kind. but the whole boat scene with both them of letting go of their loved ones. The way it was shot/edited. To me atleast, implies she probalky chosses to stay around blackthone, instead of becoming a nun. best comparsion would be like in LOTR :return of the king where Faramir and Éowyn share glanses and you know something is gonna happen between those to in the future.
I think you got it backward that the family's temple the traditional resting place would be in a different place than a full fledged temple where she would go to be a nun and she was conflicted. When Blackthorne came up with a burial at sea ideal so she could just look at the ocean to be near her husband and child.
@@DrJhengsman Well that does make sense. Sad though it is.
Anjin sama fumble the ball so hard
So happy she was able to find some sense of peace in all th tragedy.
I know she probably didn't actually exist, but I do hope she kept the gun.
Fuji has such an understated beauty
RIP to John's pillowing days...
In the book another woman was assigned to him.
He gets another wife.
Is it not implied that Fuji may remain in the village close to the sea? I thought the whole scene on the boat was about Blackthorne trying to convince Fuji to stay.
In the book it is implied John marries Kiku. It does somehow fit since William Adam's Japanese wife was a commoner and a daughter of a highway official.
No, he was taking her to the covenant. @@KK-fi6ms
藤様は可憐で綺麗だなぁ❣❣✨✨
I honestly get a little cheery but sad when Fuji simply says “yes” to him. It’s like she is slowly learning English or Portuguese and can understand if he speaks it.
Somehow this was the most heartbreaking scene in the show for me. After everything that happens, you think "at least he's home with Fuji-sama now". 😭 I really wish she would have stayed. I think they would have been happy with the deep care and respect they had for each other, even if it wasn't love.
Fuji sama cute ❤
Adorable.
@@carlosenriqueulloa yes 👍
按針様の日本語がめっちゃカワイイ。
通道(tsuuji)…いない(inai)
(இдஇ; )
2人とも本当に…
このやり取りが尊い。
William Adams, the historical basis for 'blackthorne' was married, sent his wife money, and wrote her letters, which are still preserved.
the only scene i heard Fujisama speaks English
"Presense is felt most keenly in absence."
I liked Fuji, the ‘Healthy and strong’ made me laugh, the ‘No Translator’ had quite the opposite effect. Great scene.
I like how Blackthorne is also using watakushi like the women :)
Like foreigners who learn japanese from a woman? lol
@@kansairobot2015
Exactly :). It was well portrayed
Yeah, I've noticed that small detail. Love it. : )
I was thinking about how and what they're teaching him, given that he's mostly learning from women 😂
When two introverts are left alone
I wanted them to stay together, but i like this outcome
The moment fuji appears in the final episode i immediately scream " fuji samaaaaa my waifuuuuu" lollol
He says 'I order it' because no one has been making requests of him this whole time so he'd never learn the words.
I hope Fuji will appear in season 2 as well.
Well at least he didn't get dumped by SMS.
Oh boy! If only you guys knew what she meant by "becoming a nun".
Fuji sama, best girl.
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I like to think that Blackthorne would've visited her at her temple, only to be unable to recognize her without her hair.
I think she would smile to see him, and if he saw that smile, he would know.
I always assumed, even when I read the book, that her “becoming a nun” was an excuse for her to not tell John about her committing suic*de.
I haven't read the book, but I certainly didn't take it that way in the series, especially after she appears to make peace in letting the remains of her family go. Additionally, the characters in the show (and book) are generally built around the experiences of real people. Becoming a Buddhist nun, perhaps most famously in the case of Lady Sen, was certainly a realistic path considering her situation.
This scene brought me to tears...he lost Mariko, the woman he loved, he lost his ship and now he's losing Fuji, his consort. And though there was no chemistry between the two, he liked and respected her. She's a badass! And now she's leaving. 😟
part of me wanted to ship them together but knowing her family that just wouldn't make sense... her perserverance is admirable
alguien sabe el nombre del soundtrack que aparece en el minuto 0:30
"Anjin-sama"😂😂😂
If I remember correctly, in the book, she jumped off of a bridge, had permission to do so. She spoke to a watching soldier to tell Blackthorne that it was an accident.
Welp... I was about to buy the book but my poor heart can't take that 😢
No she didn't jump off a bridge. It's not known how she ended her life. James Clavell left that open ended.
@@BeeOppresion I still would recommend getting the book. Most of what was seen in both the 80's and current versions are faithful to the novel with some variant dramatic license. It's one of my favorite books.
In the book Fuji arranges a capable, beautiful and strong samurai woman for a wife and Kiku as consort.
Fuji dying in the next episode while going to the convent will be hard to take
So sorry... No more episodes.... Finished now...
Ambushed by bandits... such a tragedy.
Best nun, more like best girl
I honestly can't fault the acting, the clothes are such a beautiful recreation of the time, and the story of the 2024 version skipped by the 1980's of the Spanish pilot and heavy religion that was mostly gone from this. My only gripe was the ending and nothing how Tokugawa Ieyasu became shogun and the taking of heads, also as if they ran out of money. If i was to give this out of 10, then without doubt it would be a solid 8.5 out of 10
These two are the most wholesome together. I really feel like they're bros.
Could someone please tell me what the tune at the end of the clip is called?
I kinda wanted them to uh.....you know...."one for the road".
whyd you comment this twice lol
nuns don't give head bro
@@LordKamos777because op really wanted it to happen xD
We don't know that they didn't, the next scene begins the morning after their conversation here.
@@amiciprocul8501 They didn't bro.
No translator 😭
I kind of wanted them to uh..."one for the road". I mean, she's not a Nun yet.
"How about that butthole for old times sake?"
His japanese got pretty good for a foreigner. Its an insanely complex language
It was the moment John lost everything that reminded him of the very short period of time he experienced peace & love with Mariko. 💔 he should have died with her in the explosion. 🥺
Fave character in the show!
Best girl ❤️
this was my one complaint of the finale. I’m not a fan of Fuji becoming a nun. Id like to have seen her remain his consort. I believe that would be true to history as well.
Fuji-sama deserved a good pillowing before starting her journey to become a nun.
why did they use the term ama and not miko if the translation was suppose to be nun?
She's going to be a Buddhist nun; a miko is a Shinto shine priestess. Different religion.
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I think based on Blackthorn's Western civilities that it was somewhat out of character for him to try to "order" her to stay. I feel it would have been much more likely that he would clearly "ask" her to stay thus elevating her and demonstrating both regard and respect. I realize that some of us may feel that his newly acquired Japanese nature would call for the "order", but I think it feels unnatural coming from Blackthorn. I wish that he had asked her politely to stay and that she would have politely declined, perhaps followed by some small emotional token from both of them.
Given the context of this scene and the grief Blackthorne is experiencing, wanting Fuji to stay is not really because he wants her as her "consort" per se, but more of needing a friend. Because Mariko is dead, all he really has in his home is Fuji who can understand what he's going through despite the language barrier. So it would be natural for him to wanting her to stay so he won't feel lonely. But he did show her the idea of a sea burial for her husband and son, as a token of his gratitude.
It's about giving her an 'out.' If she was in any way being pressured to go to the monastery, she could use his order to trump that. Once she made clear that this was her decision, he accepted it.
It makes sense given both his limited vocabulary, and to show how desperately he wants her to stay. Fuji's affectionate smile says she understands.
The show's most charming character together with the weakest. For the life of me, I will never get over how badly they treated Anjin in the costume department - so drab and featureless. Though it is of a piece with the disrespect with which they treat him as a character.
Blackthorn was one of the most lovable characters, Cosmo did a phenomenal job with him, and he was relegated to a side character. It’s a shame.
Doesn't she love him?
The whole world let her baby be killed. Just can’t.
From Best Waifu to Best Nun
Does somebody here speak Japanese? I often hear the affix “…masyry”, when actors speak but I don’t hear this in talks of modern Japanese people, usually just “-mas”. Is it because the actors spoke the old version of Japanese or what? Or is it my imagination…? I’m just asking, I don’t speak Japanese on any level…
I am Japanese. The way it is said in the drama is from the 1600s. In modern times, Gozaimasu is used as a polite word when serving customers, but Gozaimasuru is not used at the end. If you talk like that, you'll be laughed at (lol)
I am Japanese. If you are talking about "masuru", you are correct.
"Masuru" is the old version of "masu". We don't use "masuru" anymore.
We might use it jokingly in conversations with friends.
@@smari3290Thank you, I’m glad I was right) It means the creators tried to make this show more authentic and connected to the epoch.
@@moc8729Thank you very much.
@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah You're welcome💖 Please come to Japan. Now that the cherry blossom season has passed, the next best time would be to see the autumn leaves.
fuji sama best waifu
What? I thought she's supposed to cut her own throat?
Nooooooooo. Waifu. Noooo 🥺
She quit.
Even Mr. Niceguy here would deny her the freedom she desires if it doesn’t please his needs 😂
翻訳すると、言葉が軽くなるな～字幕なら仕方がないとはおうが…でも、面白くないな…
Of course, in the book she kills herself.
You should all read the book. It’s fantastic. And Fuji even gets her wish to commit Seppuku in the end. They made it more pleasant ending for the TV show 😂😂
Sorry but this movie is far from Clavell's work that it's an act of vandalism. I am perpetually amazed by how much movie goers are either ignorant of the original material and willing to accept whatever a less talented screen writer will put out over the author.