This vehicle had an accident in South Florida, however none of us know the owner. He wasn't a part of any of the Viper owner groups. However this vehicle was in a salt water canal. The vehicle was not submerged, just the front of the vehicle was deeper than the back which explains what happened. The vehicle appear to have lost control on a two-lane road the car was facing the opposite direction in the canal. It was not in a beachy area. Where this vehicle was pulled out, I would have thought it was more brackish water than completely salt water. The whole car was slanted in a 45° inside the canal. But based off the photos we all saw of this vehicle when it happened the water didn't get higher than the lower door area on the passenger side, but appears that the water would have been much deeper on the driver side but the driver was able to exit without opening the doors. I hope this helps...
Roof was down I can confirm. I was driving this (my uncle Ron’s) viper that day. The tires date back to original age with this car and I was playing around on old canal road with a buddy in his turbo MR2. A 2-3 shift broke the tires loose and this is what happened from there. The car was still trying to run and I had to shut it down. The water there coming through the canal is mostly dark but there is sand and sediment plus the bank I went over was full of sand. I didn’t want to let this car go but my uncle said he did not want it anymore since it used to be a mint low mike car he just got the check. It was fun and this was not my first time driving this car, but just made a poor decision. Please Sam fix it up I would love to hear that sweet exhaust again. If you believe any of that im sorry.
The main concern considering the engine now is was it hydrolocked--was the engine running when the water entered the engine. This would probably result in bent connecting rods.
I recommend putting ATF in the spark plug holes and the crankcase. Let it sit for a while and turn the engine over by hand with the plugs out. If no issues, drain the ATF and put in fresh oil and new filter. Reinstall cleaned spark plugs and see if engine will start. Hopefully the modules haven't been drowned.
Rich and Sam both of you fly over to damn uk and fix both my cars, one needs clutch packs replacing VW DSG Gearbox :o, and the other BMW needs a turbo replacement, both very hard to find a garage to work on them
I think the car was parked/stopped at an angle with the nose tilting downward in water. That would explain why the front lights has water but not the back, why the outlet has corrosion but not on the handbrake. And the water line at the speaker looks angled. If you think sand in your CRAC was bad, try sand in your engine.
When I saw water running out of the oil pan... yeah... that engine has to be completely taken apart at a machinist. I've seen that before and it's always rust and corrosion inside.. which CAN be fixed, but...
The water is bad enough, but I would be more concerned about the sand. Engine, transmission, rear end, power steering system, and brake fluid are all going to have to gone through/changed. I'd even be looking at the CV boots. That thing is going to be a nightmare.
Might have been parked on the beach and the tide came in. The damage may have happened trying to get the car out of the water. When the water comes in the to the beach, the sand soften and the car starts to sink into sand making very difficult to pull out. The interior might have gotten wet from opening the door when the owner panicked when the car started sinking. Could also be like the guy that ran his Bugatti into the water for the insurance claim.
I think I may have a fender for that car if your buddy decides to fix it. It is at my shop on the wall, I just don't remember which side I have. As always, great video Sam!!
Sam! You ended it so messed up! Ok I see what you did there. Anyway, if you had the experience and know-how I guess you could pull the engine and go through it, cleaning rust and sand out of it. As long there no pitting in the cylinders and mains. But I couldn’t have paid 26,000 for it. Clearly a Viper that looked save able and people bid it up. 10 grand would have been my top. Flood cars are so hard to understand. I’ve fixed day two flooded cars, meaning, literally, on day two of water where it shouldn’t be. Pull pugs and use it’s won compression to blow it out, and save it. But salt water! Sand! Rusting and grooving up, rings and mains! Yup ten grand.
I already did this project. 2001 GTS Viper, salt water flooded, sand in the oil pan. Rebuilt the whole thing, custom paint and interior and added 200 horses. That was 7 years ago. Still runs.
Depends, a good number of flood cars aren't flood cars. During severe weather, insurance companies often flood an area affected, even if the car itself was never under or in water.
I used to be a licensed adjuster back between 2012-2016 and I can attest that not all flood cars are equal. The risk just increases that you're getting screwed. Reason being is that many times over if there is a massive catastrophic event that happens and affects a large portion of an insurance companies customers. Instead of sending a literal army of agents onsite to a disaster zone, it's often easier to just apply a blanket to a zip code and write everything off without much consideration of the details which is where a lot of people made bank off of these disasters. I know one guy who had his car totaled in the Texas floods, had gap pay him the difference between what he owed and its value...turned around within a month and a half and bought the car back in cash for around 3 grand.
My nephew had a Dodge Ram with a v10 in it. It took him almost a year to rebuild the engine because the head gaskets weren’t available and the kits were over $1k. So be careful tearing down the motor. And he lives in Brandon so, he’s local to you.
Fill the engine with diesel fuel right to the intake manifold. Leave it to soak while slowly rotating the crank occasionally by hand. Then drain it and fill it will the proper oil. It may be salvageable.
It’s worth salvaging this viper because they don’t make them anymore due to side impact airbag requirements. There is simply not enough room to put side impact airbags on vipers.
This car will be an electrical nightmare till it either catches fire or every single electrical component and harness is replaced.. Nice parts car though! 😋
Salt water flooded, a great big NO! It may not be obvious now but everything metal will eventually corrode. Wiring, brake lines, bearings, every nut and bolt, etc. Not to mention salt water in the engine----hydrolocked.
Drain the pan, pull the plugs, spin any shmeg out of the holes, pour some T4 in, CRANK IT!!!! If its gonna run and be OK you will know right away. It most likely has to be sent out to a machinist, but the 5% chance that you dodged a BULLET, is worth the try. Whats the worst that can happen, some wrecked bearings???? LOL, She is gonna be FINE
My guess is that the driver lost control and ended up in one of the tons of canals in that area, I lived in that area for a bit and they were all over the place. That would explain the body damage and the flood
My suggestion: A couple of gallons of light machine oil in the engine right now, fill every cylinder with WD40 of some good water displacement product and leave plugs out. Remove intake altogether, isolate ignition electrically, and spin the engine over on the starter without plugs in (if starter still works) for two cycles of a minute with five minutes starter cooling in between cycles. Drain oil and repeat whole process again. The fill engine with correct engine oil, plugs back in and see if it starts. May save the engine if done quickly enough. Draining and refilling gearbox should sort that out.
I’m Here in Houston which is the flood capital of the world, had 2 cars underwater for 2 days , river water from tropical weather . A 69 mustang with a 79 trans am park next too it ,both were saved , your methods are very much spot on , clean , evacuate, repeat . Electrical items will need replacing , brakes gone through , testing it out afterwards . Not many people care enough or have the experience so these most desirable cars go to the bone yard . Glad you are patient , It’s a virtue.
There are plenty of boat motors that get flooded and submerged. The important part is for there to be little to no air. Metal can’t rust with air. Once you drain the clock starts.
Metal can't rust with air? WTH are you talking about? Oxygen causes oxidation with iron = rust. Air is 21% oxygen. Water contains 1% oxygen. You know, H2O? Iron exposed to air or water, will rust.
I'm skeptical too. If the engine was fine, then sure, but I can't see $26k of parts there without an engine. Not to mention the labour cost and materials and time required for shipping large parts.
Great video, terrific presentation. Dying to hear the story. Worst case scenario? Just wondering how much an engine would cost. But there was no mention of confirmation whether it was fresh or salt water...... So I gotta wonder if this flood had to do with a fresh water, hurricane drain backup from . Rather than a swim in the Gulf.
@@AppleReviews I hear you. And agree... except entire state of Fla is one giant sand bar. And I have friends whose car was flooded in parking lot when rain drain backed up during baby hurricane.
@@franklaskus2395 I hear you. But if Viper engine has not been Vapor locked. Only has a few thousand miles. And is a 'Last year edition convertible'. Maybe it's worth it!! I can't can't imagine the rebuilt 'machinist' costs are very hi, on such a low mileage engine that's NOT blown. On the other hand, after watching JR Garage in AZ replace a Ferrari engine wth one w/41k miles for their Maserati for $3,500. How expensive can it be? Especially after the fact, that when it comes to wrecks. Vipers are the 2nd most totaled car after a Mustang GT!!! LoL
Sad to say, this might just be a parts car. With all that salt water in the engine, I don’t think I would mess with it. OVER BUDGET big time for a rebuild
From the pics I’ve seen, it looks like it ran into a sinkhole. The cars sitting at a 40° angle like 5’ off the road with the whole back out of the water and the front in.
I have put together Toyota 4Runner once from one rolled over with not one salvageable panel on it (I was lucky to walk away from this) and Catrina hurricane water damage one ($700 for a truck + $600 freight). I end up stripping the water damaged truck to a bare metal, so there was no interior not a single electrical wire left on it. Treated all the mold inside and outside the body panels first, then dressed it all back up with electrical (everything single wire) and interior components from the 4Runner I have rolled over. I have never done this before, so It took me about a couple of weeks, several hours after work and some weekend time. I loved my 4Runner to being with, but after walking away from rollover accident with just a cat like scratch on my hand, I completely fall in love with this vehicle. I add almost 100k miles more on this truck after I put it together. Did replaced a transmission ($300 salvage) shortly after the fix, as I did not flash it and was running on an emulsion for a few months. I thought that all power train components should be all water right sealed as they contain oils ))). I didn’t know about vent openings at this time. This just tell how much I did know about flooded vehicles. Other then this the truck on and off road without any issues that you would expect from salt water damaged vehicles.
Im gonna take stab at this with a theory. Based on the age and miles, this car sat most of its life in the garage of someone's beach house. All of that sand is a red herring and is actually because of where it was parked. Now here is where I go off the deep end (pun intended): because of how super clean that water leaving the the block appeared and the lack of noticeable corrosion, this car was driven by someone who shouldn't have been driving it. They plowed it past a car port column or through a garage (trying to explain why only 1 side got wrecked) and crashed it into a swimming pool. There is no waterline because they had the tow truck out there within an hour. Edit - Update: Not even close
The first two minutes of quietly loading the Viper onto the trailer was like 4play. I’m gonna have a smoke before we continue. I’m really looking forward to this; I dig the viper. It’s like a Miata went to the gym and got jacked off PEDs. This is going to be the best series yet. I can feel it.
This, to my untrained eye, looks like a parts car. It's a shame due to the low mileage, but I'm gonna guess those parts needed will be expensive and hard to find - it looks like everything under the hood/bonnet will have to be replaced or refurbished, in addition to the front wheels and that front left side panel.
I have a feeling they drove it near the end of the beach and the waves came in closer and closer and then hit the car. Would make sense why all the water damage is at the front and very sandy everywhere else haha
@9:16 you can see the water line on the speaker grill and you can also see the angle that it was submerged in....just watch it several times and you will see it!
I suspect that someone had a bit too much to drink, ran out of skill and crashed the car sending it off-road, possibly into a canal. If it were mine, now that you drained the water from the engine and plugs removed, inject some kerosene into the cylinders, allow to sit for a couple of days, then crank to blow it out. Also put a few gallons of kerosene in the oil pan to aid in removing any remaining moisture. Scope the engine for rusty cylinders, as in most cases, there will be residual oil on cylinder walls. As long as no pitting, plugs back in, oil change, flush the fuel rails and refill with fresh fuel. Light me up Scottie
I know a guy in Orlando that did the very same thing....complete fluids flush and months of direct sunlight...it started right up. Fresh water flooding is mild compared to Saltwater which attacks the wires sensors and fuse blocks. 26k though... I would not have paid more than 1500$
You need to get a vacuum on the engine and engine bay. Before you turn that motor over you want to make sure there isn't any sand inside the block. Engine is worth rebuilding regardless. Just bearings and gaskets. Just don't crank it over. Fill that block with heavy weight oil. 25 quarts, then let it drain after soaking for a couple days. Then filter the oil. Look for sand.
The window not going up might just be a re-calibration of the module after the battery is reconnected. Try rolling it down all the way, keep the button pressed a few secs after the window reaches the bottom. Then do the same thing all the way up.
I helped rebuild a D6 dozer that was under water for a week in a river. Sand was EVERYWHERE even filled the engine cylinders right to the top! It was like new when we were done with it!
Yay for the Punta Gorda lot! I'll be headed there real soon to check out some goodies! This one was actually on my list to look at. Nothing like auction lots and Harpoon Harrys!
I'm figuring $75k and labor, now he has a repaired car, with a $26k initial investment, and a rebuilt title, which is damn near impossible to sell. WHAT A DEAL!
That’s fun you mentioned Punta Gorda because I just had to tell someone this at work literally the other day. We were going over remote sites and we have a site there and I had to inform my team what that name meant. Hahaha Man, the way my butthole puckered when you popped the oil drain plug lol. It looked like when I pull the drain plug on my boat.
Awesome upload, interesting to see how a viper will be affected by a flood.. I’m subbing and liking.. when the accident happen the engine was probably running and the intake sucked in the water and the engine gave up hopefully it’s able to start.. just awesome
I think it would be super cool to turn it into a super kart. You can sell off the valuable body parts to fund getting the motor fixed and maybe even some upgrades along the way. You could call it something like the PitViper. At the end of the day its still a wrecked flooded salvage title car so might as well do something fun and unique.
marel mystery oil the clyinders down, hand crank it over 2 times , if it's good refill with fresh oil and crank it over my guess is the car was parked on a hill and got hit pushing it into the water
Saw a viper just like this on the back of a flatbed with auction stickers and writing on it. It wasn't in as rough of shape as this one but i love seeing these get restored tbh lol
Buying a flood car sight unseen is pretty wild. The difference between a fresh water simple inundation, and a silt-laden or, worse, salt water immersion, is giant. Muddy river water pops up everywhere, while salt water covertly destroys everything over time.
Done a flooded before with the engine full of water, cleaned it all, put atf on the top of pistons for some days, filled up with cheap engine oil, turned the engine, flushed it again and still runs 12 years later
Just a little heads up I know how to fix that Viper. Start feeling around on the driver side under the - towards the shifter Not far from the steering wheel. Just move around a little bit and you'll feel a red button. You might be able to See it but most likely be easier to feel it.. Press and hold the red button once the car has power.u will hear a few mechanical noises and this will Engage The Cars self-repair mode. Don't Panic the car will turn grey in colour and the convertible roof will be replaced with a hardcarbon fibre roof and the cars body will extend while itself repairs and transforms back into Defender mode. I wonder is there anybody out there besides me that will get what I'm talking about.
Quick advice from a marine engineer: it really depends if it is indeed salt water inside the engine., I guess it is here. And how much time it has remained on the auction parking. Under a week sometime and if no rod is bent, just pour spring water in the pan and inside the cylinders. With the sparkplugs out, rev the engine on starter until the fresh water takes all the salt off. (REDO THE PROCESS WHILE YOU TASTE :)) Then when the salty taste is gone. Put cheap oil in the pan and rinse with it until the mayonnaise is gone. After that, hope for the best! Compressions could get better after a while. Again, no connecting rod had to be bent! Cheers
I noticed in this video that you were keeping the Viper supported on concrete bricks which are moulded with open through sections. This is a potentially dangerous situation. I have heard of this type of brick can collapse unpredictably. My dad always said that wooden blocks should be used to avoid such problems.
I bought an early 70s' Ford Capri in the 80s that was a "Water baby" . I dried it out real good and rebuilt the starter and alternator and put a radio In it and drove it for years without any issues then sold it.
Last summer my runabout with a 4.3 v6 suddenly wouldn't turn over. You turn the key and the starter would clunk the flywheel and nothing moved. Since I had replaced the starter the year before I thought it was the starter. I removed it and bought a new one. No change. Took a breaker bar and tried to turn the motor by hand. Nope. I knew of hydro lock but never experienced it. Took all the plugs out and it then turned over. Put the plugs back in. One turn and it froze again. Took the plugs out and left it sit (in the water where it sits every year for the last 6yrs) for the last 2 months of our season, (Wisconsin). Towed it to the boat ramp, took it home, left it for 2 more weeks before attempting to winterize it. Being a 1992 and the fact that we owned it for 7 years with no problems, I didn't really care too much. The oil was not milky, so I performed the winterizing process, put the plugs back in, hooked up the muffs and hit the pump with the rv fluid for winterizing. Turned the key and it started right up!!! Ran like a champ!! We'll see in couple of weeks when I unwinterize it. See if the Viper will turn over with no plugs.
This vehicle had an accident in South Florida, however none of us know the owner. He wasn't a part of any of the Viper owner groups.
However this vehicle was in a salt water canal. The vehicle was not submerged, just the front of the vehicle was deeper than the back which explains what happened.
The vehicle appear to have lost control on a two-lane road the car was facing the opposite direction in the canal. It was not in a beachy area. Where this vehicle was pulled out, I would have thought it was more brackish water than completely salt water.
The whole car was slanted in a 45° inside the canal. But based off the photos we all saw of this vehicle when it happened the water didn't get higher than the lower door area on the passenger side, but appears that the water would have been much deeper on the driver side but the driver was able to exit without opening the doors.
I hope this helps...
Vote this up guys!
Not all heroes drive Vipers... But this one does.
I guess the driver left through the roof, it was probably down at the time of the crash
Roof was down I can confirm. I was driving this (my uncle Ron’s) viper that day. The tires date back to original age with this car and I was playing around on old canal road with a buddy in his turbo MR2. A 2-3 shift broke the tires loose and this is what happened from there. The car was still trying to run and I had to shut it down. The water there coming through the canal is mostly dark but there is sand and sediment plus the bank I went over was full of sand. I didn’t want to let this car go but my uncle said he did not want it anymore since it used to be a mint low mike car he just got the check. It was fun and this was not my first time driving this car, but just made a poor decision. Please Sam fix it up I would love to hear that sweet exhaust again.
If you believe any of that im sorry.
@@StephenBrewer89 I believe you are a very lonely person.
The main concern considering the engine now is was it hydrolocked--was the engine running when the water entered the engine. This would probably result in bent connecting rods.
No less than a complete engine disassembly and inspection required, valves, guides and seats are trashed, and probably looking at new cylinder liners.
He should of just started it, f it, toasty is toasty.
I recommend putting ATF in the spark plug holes and the crankcase. Let it sit for a while and turn the engine over by hand with the plugs out. If no issues, drain the ATF and put in fresh oil and new filter. Reinstall cleaned spark plugs and see if engine will start. Hopefully the modules haven't been drowned.
As would trying to start the car after it got the water in it...
Not to mention it came from auction lot where inevitably at least one dumbass decided to try and jump-start it lol.
Grabbing popcorn and a cold beverage for this one!
You the man Alex!
You'll finish the video before you pop open your beer and before the corn has even popped.
Hey Sammy, this video is too short. Not cool man.
Had two options, finish work due in an hour or watch this video..... Guess I'm not getting paid 😊
Get down there and give him a hand! Maybe it will actually get fixed this year!
@@thecriticalaccountant money comes and goes. Sam uploads do not. I’d say you made the right choice
For everyone. When using cinder blocks for jackstands, always have the holes facing up and down.
Place your bets here, will Sam will get it to run again... yay or nay?
He probably will forget about it lol
That engine is going to be so bad. You know amongst the best what saltwater does to cars in general.
Hey Rich whatever happened to that flood Tesla you had?
Sam never gets things done. That's why we don't see stepmom around. But rich. Just ev swap this thing with him Allright.
Rich and Sam both of you fly over to damn uk and fix both my cars, one needs clutch packs replacing VW DSG Gearbox :o, and the other BMW needs a turbo replacement, both very hard to find a garage to work on them
Man this is one of the most interesting videos of recovering a wrecked car at a salvage auction. Thank you. This is awesome!
I think the car was parked/stopped at an angle with the nose tilting downward in water.
That would explain why the front lights has water but not the back, why the outlet has corrosion but not on the handbrake. And the water line at the speaker looks angled.
If you think sand in your CRAC was bad, try sand in your engine.
Some dude was getting a BJ at the water's edge the beach and didn't realize the tide was coming in.
What about the collision damage?
@@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHell sideswiped,
causing it to run into the water
Can't believe somebody paid 26 K for that wreck. Saltwater intrusion in the engine and dash means this car is toast.
EXACTLY!
That's $30,000 usd after Copart gets all their extra fees.
Not worth the effort
Doesn't a viper bluebook for $20k
Viper prices are in the $50’s now. But still if the car really took salt water, it’s not worth even $15k and would sell it for parts.
Enough money would get anything up and running. Might need a new wiring harness
Dang this Adam Sandler guy sure does not have good luck on buying used cars.
He didn't buy it
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness I might just miss that, but anyways a joke
That's racist, probably.
@@JewishMarine how the f is that racist? Y'all too sensitive
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness Hoovie did. Spoiler: Sam fixes it and you'll be able to watch it in S8 of CarTrek
Long time ago I actually made the first jigs to machine those Viper v10 oil pans. It took me back a lot seeing that.
When I saw water running out of the oil pan... yeah... that engine has to be completely taken apart at a machinist. I've seen that before and it's always rust and corrosion inside.. which CAN be fixed, but...
Not enough dollar signs in the world to describe it.
The water is bad enough, but I would be more concerned about the sand. Engine, transmission, rear end, power steering system, and brake fluid are all going to have to gone through/changed. I'd even be looking at the CV boots. That thing is going to be a nightmare.
Fuck it. Fill it full of oil and cleaner. Let it sit. Drain and fill. Run till it pops. Buy a second engine later if it's needed.
No rust running down the oil pan so he could be in a good area
if it needs a rebuild,might as well throw some performance parts in as part of the rebuild?
I realy love the happy and calm cows wandering around. They're definitely happy cows.
Pre-existing damage and then ends up in a flood. Owner was waiting for the perfect weather forecast. 😎
Act of god to get a new car XD
I think you’re on the money Road Dog!
Waiting where? On the beach🙄
They Turned the Viper into an Eel 🐍 🏝 💦
Punta Gorda means "Fat point" or "Fat Spot"
Yeah, he's confusing PUNTA with PUTA, totally differente.
Exactly. Puta is bitch
Might have been parked on the beach and the tide came in. The damage may have happened trying to get the car out of the water. When the water comes in the to the beach, the sand soften and the car starts to sink into sand making very difficult to pull out. The interior might have gotten wet from opening the door when the owner panicked when the car started sinking.
Could also be like the guy that ran his Bugatti into the water for the insurance claim.
Nope, saw some pics of it, ran off the road and went nose first into what looked like a weird ditch/sinkhole.
I think I may have a fender for that car if your buddy decides to fix it. It is at my shop on the wall, I just don't remember which side I have. As always, great video Sam!!
Sam! You ended it so messed up! Ok I see what you did there. Anyway, if you had the experience and know-how I guess you could pull the engine and go through it, cleaning rust and sand out of it. As long there no pitting in the cylinders and mains. But I couldn’t have paid 26,000 for it. Clearly a Viper that looked save able and people bid it up. 10 grand would have been my top. Flood cars are so hard to understand. I’ve fixed day two flooded cars, meaning, literally, on day two of water where it shouldn’t be. Pull pugs and use it’s won compression to blow it out, and save it. But salt water! Sand! Rusting and grooving up, rings and mains! Yup ten grand.
Motor alone worth 10k my man
I need part 2 NOW. I want to see what inside the pistons 😖😖😖
I already did this project. 2001 GTS Viper, salt water flooded, sand in the oil pan. Rebuilt the whole thing, custom paint and interior and added 200 horses. That was 7 years ago. Still runs.
Wow! I would never buy a flood car unless I need body parts lol. That’s a nice car tho! 😎👍🏻
Depends, a good number of flood cars aren't flood cars. During severe weather, insurance companies often flood an area affected, even if the car itself was never under or in water.
I used to be a licensed adjuster back between 2012-2016 and I can attest that not all flood cars are equal. The risk just increases that you're getting screwed. Reason being is that many times over if there is a massive catastrophic event that happens and affects a large portion of an insurance companies customers. Instead of sending a literal army of agents onsite to a disaster zone, it's often easier to just apply a blanket to a zip code and write everything off without much consideration of the details which is where a lot of people made bank off of these disasters. I know one guy who had his car totaled in the Texas floods, had gap pay him the difference between what he owed and its value...turned around within a month and a half and bought the car back in cash for around 3 grand.
"That's why nobody will remember your name."
the COW walk through is priceless lol
My nephew had a Dodge Ram with a v10 in it. It took him almost a year to rebuild the engine because the head gaskets weren’t available and the kits were over $1k. So be careful tearing down the motor. And he lives in Brandon so, he’s local to you.
I always go to Brandon!
@@Samcrac how nice. Let's go brandon.
@@trevorv9035 Let's go TO Brandon.
Dodge had 2 V10’s a cast iron block for the trucks. The Viper block is aluminum and only came in the SRT10 trucks
Fill the engine with diesel fuel right to the intake manifold. Leave it to soak while slowly rotating the crank occasionally by hand. Then drain it and fill it will the proper oil. It may be salvageable.
I love cars from “Puta Gorda” FL 😂
This is so sad. Those 2003+ Vipers are beautiful. Top ten favorites right there.
That engine would make an awesome coffee table.
And then put a coffee table book about coffee tables on it.
It’s worth salvaging this viper because they don’t make them anymore due to side impact airbag requirements. There is simply not enough room to put side impact airbags on vipers.
This car will be an electrical nightmare till it either catches fire or every single electrical component and harness is replaced.. Nice parts car though! 😋
Salt water flooded, a great big NO! It may not be obvious now but everything metal will eventually corrode. Wiring, brake lines, bearings, every nut and bolt, etc. Not to mention salt water in the engine----hydrolocked.
Drain the pan, pull the plugs, spin any shmeg out of the holes, pour some T4 in, CRANK IT!!!! If its gonna run and be OK you will know right away. It most likely has to be sent out to a machinist, but the 5% chance that you dodged a BULLET, is worth the try. Whats the worst that can happen, some wrecked bearings???? LOL, She is gonna be FINE
Sam, I’ve never watched someone use a breaker bar to remove the oil drain plug before!!! 🤣😂
My guess is that the driver lost control and ended up in one of the tons of canals in that area, I lived in that area for a bit and they were all over the place. That would explain the body damage and the flood
I second that
Are the canals fresh water or salt water? That might have a bearing as to the success or failure of this mission.
the water was too clean....
@4:15 it's hilarious your cow came right behind you and smells the map. That cow should be your new mascot Sam!
My suggestion: A couple of gallons of light machine oil in the engine right now, fill every cylinder with WD40 of some good water displacement product and leave plugs out. Remove intake altogether, isolate ignition electrically, and spin the engine over on the starter without plugs in (if starter still works) for two cycles of a minute with five minutes starter cooling in between cycles. Drain oil and repeat whole process again. The fill engine with correct engine oil, plugs back in and see if it starts. May save the engine if done quickly enough. Draining and refilling gearbox should sort that out.
Nothing short of replacing that engine is gonna save this car!
The doge viper hourglass model. This I why I subbed to this channel raw troubleshooting. And you never know what car you buy. And what shape it is in.
4:06 - 4:10 had me dying. This series is gonna be great
cant forget about the cow just taking a stroll
I’m Here in Houston which is the flood capital of the world, had 2 cars underwater for 2 days , river water from tropical weather . A 69 mustang with a 79 trans am park next too it ,both were saved , your methods are very much spot on , clean , evacuate, repeat . Electrical items will need replacing , brakes gone through , testing it out afterwards . Not many people care enough or have the experience so these most desirable cars go to the bone yard . Glad you are patient , It’s a virtue.
At least you don’t gotta change your blinker fluid 👍
There are plenty of boat motors that get flooded and submerged. The important part is for there to be little to no air. Metal can’t rust with air.
Once you drain the clock starts.
Metal can't rust with air? WTH are you talking about? Oxygen causes oxidation with iron = rust. Air is 21% oxygen. Water contains 1% oxygen. You know, H2O? Iron exposed to air or water, will rust.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH read the comment before losing your mind.
If you read it you would have understood the intended message. Regardless of my typo.
$26k! I don’t even think you can part out the car for that much.
I'm skeptical too. If the engine was fine, then sure, but I can't see $26k of parts there without an engine. Not to mention the labour cost and materials and time required for shipping large parts.
Your primary source for viper parts are: Don Scharf out of WI, X2Builders out of IL and new/used parts from Partsrack.
Great video, terrific presentation. Dying to hear the story. Worst case scenario? Just wondering how much an engine would cost.
But there was no mention of confirmation whether it was fresh or salt water...... So I gotta wonder if this flood had to do with a fresh water, hurricane drain backup from . Rather than a swim in the Gulf.
Beach sand, and fresh water?
Sam said in the beginning it was salt water, so we'll see.
@@AppleReviews I hear you. And agree... except entire state of Fla is one giant sand bar. And I have friends whose car was flooded in parking lot when rain drain backed up during baby hurricane.
Unfortunately I had to get the one in my SRT10 truck rebuilt. Had every bit of 10K in it.
@@franklaskus2395 I hear you. But if Viper engine has not been Vapor locked. Only has a few thousand miles. And is a 'Last year edition convertible'. Maybe it's worth it!! I can't can't imagine the rebuilt 'machinist' costs are very hi, on such a low mileage engine that's NOT blown.
On the other hand, after watching JR Garage in AZ replace a Ferrari engine wth one w/41k miles for their Maserati for $3,500. How expensive can it be? Especially after the fact, that when it comes to wrecks. Vipers are the 2nd most totaled car after a Mustang GT!!! LoL
Love these videos Samcrac telling it like it is so enjoy the honesty & the animals in the shots keep um coming will always have a watcher here 👏👏👏✌️
Sad to say, this might just be a parts car. With all that salt water in the engine, I don’t think I would mess with it. OVER BUDGET big time for a rebuild
From the pics I’ve seen, it looks like it ran into a sinkhole. The cars sitting at a 40° angle like 5’ off the road with the whole back out of the water and the front in.
Love to see the cows strolling by in the background. 👍😊
Perhaps you could just bury it in a really large bowl of rice for a few years?
Looks like your blinker fluid is low and dirty… time for a blinker fluid change.
are you telling me that was the engine oil plug with all that water coming out? Wow, that can't be good.
"Wow, that can't be good." Captain Obvious, reporting.
Samcrac should play Outrun (1986), in that game sand, saltwater and palm trees are everywhere, so maybe the preowner had an accident Outrun-style
Whether or not the car was running when it rolled into the surf is the make or break issue. Edit: Running means that the V10 is now a Boat Anchor.
I have put together Toyota 4Runner once from one rolled over with not one salvageable panel on it (I was lucky to walk away from this) and Catrina hurricane water damage one ($700 for a truck + $600 freight). I end up stripping the water damaged truck to a bare metal, so there was no interior not a single electrical wire left on it. Treated all the mold inside and outside the body panels first, then dressed it all back up with electrical (everything single wire) and interior components from the 4Runner I have rolled over. I have never done this before, so It took me about a couple of weeks, several hours after work and some weekend time.
I loved my 4Runner to being with, but after walking away from rollover accident with just a cat like scratch on my hand, I completely fall in love with this vehicle. I add almost 100k miles more on this truck after I put it together. Did replaced a transmission ($300 salvage) shortly after the fix, as I did not flash it and was running on an emulsion for a few months. I thought that all power train components should be all water right sealed as they contain oils ))). I didn’t know about vent openings at this time. This just tell how much I did know about flooded vehicles. Other then this the truck on and off road without any issues that you would expect from salt water damaged vehicles.
Im gonna take stab at this with a theory. Based on the age and miles, this car sat most of its life in the garage of someone's beach house. All of that sand is a red herring and is actually because of where it was parked. Now here is where I go off the deep end (pun intended): because of how super clean that water leaving the the block appeared and the lack of noticeable corrosion, this car was driven by someone who shouldn't have been driving it. They plowed it past a car port column or through a garage (trying to explain why only 1 side got wrecked) and crashed it into a swimming pool. There is no waterline because they had the tow truck out there within an hour.
Edit - Update: Not even close
Someone pulled a Ferris Bueller! I like it
The first two minutes of quietly loading the Viper onto the trailer was like 4play. I’m gonna have a smoke before we continue. I’m really looking forward to this; I dig the viper. It’s like a Miata went to the gym and got jacked off PEDs. This is going to be the best series yet. I can feel it.
This, to my untrained eye, looks like a parts car. It's a shame due to the low mileage, but I'm gonna guess those parts needed will be expensive and hard to find - it looks like everything under the hood/bonnet will have to be replaced or refurbished, in addition to the front wheels and that front left side panel.
2:34 love the black cows in the background! Great video
I have a feeling they drove it near the end of the beach and the waves came in closer and closer and then hit the car. Would make sense why all the water damage is at the front and very sandy everywhere else haha
@9:16 you can see the water line on the speaker grill and you can also see the angle that it was submerged in....just watch it several times and you will see it!
I seen it and did you notice the seaweed on the frame when you were draining the oil / water from crankcase 🧐😳
Sam paid 26k for that did I hear that correctly
No. Thomas paid $26k for it.
Dropped my jaw too!
Sam claims that somebody named "Thomas" bought it.
Thomas = Sam alter ego
I suspect that someone had a bit too much to drink, ran out of skill and crashed the car sending it off-road, possibly into a canal.
If it were mine, now that you drained the water from the engine and plugs removed, inject some kerosene into the cylinders, allow to sit for a couple of days, then crank to blow it out. Also put a few gallons of kerosene in the oil pan to aid in removing any remaining moisture.
Scope the engine for rusty cylinders, as in most cases, there will be residual oil on cylinder walls. As long as no pitting, plugs back in, oil change, flush the fuel rails and refill with fresh fuel. Light me up Scottie
You're taking one for the team, thanks Sam!
Lol I can feel the "I GIVE UP" coming 😂
How is the driver seat ripped with only 9k miles?
I know a guy in Orlando that did the very same thing....complete fluids flush and months of direct sunlight...it started right up. Fresh water flooding is mild compared to Saltwater which attacks the wires sensors and fuse blocks. 26k though... I would not have paid more than 1500$
It's worth more than $1500 but it ain't worth $26k.
Just put it in some rice
You need to get a vacuum on the engine and engine bay.
Before you turn that motor over you want to make sure there isn't any sand inside the block. Engine is worth rebuilding regardless. Just bearings and gaskets. Just don't crank it over. Fill that block with heavy weight oil. 25 quarts, then let it drain after soaking for a couple days. Then filter the oil. Look for sand.
I'd use diesel fuel to start then switch to oil.
$26,000 wasted I'm sad to say
The window not going up might just be a re-calibration of the module after the battery is reconnected. Try rolling it down all the way, keep the button pressed a few secs after the window reaches the bottom. Then do the same thing all the way up.
I helped rebuild a D6 dozer that was under water for a week in a river.
Sand was EVERYWHERE even filled the engine cylinders right to the top!
It was like new when we were done with it!
Yay for the Punta Gorda lot! I'll be headed there real soon to check out some goodies! This one was actually on my list to look at. Nothing like auction lots and Harpoon Harrys!
I'm figuring $75k and labor, now he has a repaired car, with a $26k initial investment, and a rebuilt title, which is damn near impossible to sell. WHAT A DEAL!
That’s fun you mentioned Punta Gorda because I just had to tell someone this at work literally the other day. We were going over remote sites and we have a site there and I had to inform my team what that name meant. Hahaha
Man, the way my butthole puckered when you popped the oil drain plug lol. It looked like when I pull the drain plug on my boat.
@PMPerformance Wrong. Punta Gorda means "Fat Point". You have to remove the N for it to mean what you and Sam think it means.
@@LazyNateTV thanks for letting me know
Awesome upload, interesting to see how a viper will be affected by a flood.. I’m subbing and liking.. when the accident happen the engine was probably running and the intake sucked in the water and the engine gave up hopefully it’s able to start.. just awesome
Little Spanish for you Sam and the ones who have learned from you! : punta gorda= fat tip
The cow casually making an appearance is #comedicgold
Mannnnnnn, you take on some crazy projects/problems… I love it!
the map comedy was good, add more like that to future vids for sure
I think it would be super cool to turn it into a super kart. You can sell off the valuable body parts to fund getting the motor fixed and maybe even some upgrades along the way. You could call it something like the PitViper. At the end of the day its still a wrecked flooded salvage title car so might as well do something fun and unique.
0:47 Hope this beautiful old timer has an owner, shame if it's gathering dust. Beyond that, great video, I love all these discoveries as you go!
Love the cow trolling the vid lol
marel mystery oil the clyinders down,
hand crank it over 2 times ,
if it's good
refill with fresh oil and crank it over
my guess is the car was parked on a hill and got hit pushing it into the water
Punta Gorda means "plump/fat point", it's a maritime term.
Puta Gorda means "fat blatch"
Nice Sam!
Saw a viper just like this on the back of a flatbed with auction stickers and writing on it. It wasn't in as rough of shape as this one but i love seeing these get restored tbh lol
More cars, more projects, more pendings... love it!
I would suggest filling the engine with diesel fuel and letting it soak for a week or so then drain and turn the crank by hand
Buying a flood car sight unseen is pretty wild. The difference between a fresh water simple inundation, and a silt-laden or, worse, salt water immersion, is giant. Muddy river water pops up everywhere, while salt water covertly destroys everything over time.
Done a flooded before with the engine full of water, cleaned it all, put atf on the top of pistons for some days, filled up with cheap engine oil, turned the engine, flushed it again and still runs 12 years later
The music during the water/oil drain reminded me of something from Gran Turismo :)
if I were you on a really hot day I'd have a dehumidifier inside the car going all day to collect as much moisture as possible
Just a little heads up I know how to fix that Viper. Start feeling around on the driver side under the - towards the shifter Not far from the steering wheel. Just move around a little bit and you'll feel a red button. You might be able to See it but most likely be easier to feel it.. Press and hold the red button once the car has power.u will hear a few mechanical noises and this will Engage The Cars self-repair mode. Don't Panic the car will turn grey in colour and the convertible roof will be replaced with a hardcarbon fibre roof and the cars body will extend while itself repairs and transforms back into Defender mode. I wonder is there anybody out there besides me that will get what I'm talking about.
VIPER TV Show :)
Quick advice from a marine engineer: it really depends if it is indeed salt water inside the engine., I guess it is here. And how much time it has remained on the auction parking.
Under a week sometime and if no rod is bent, just pour spring water in the pan and inside the cylinders. With the sparkplugs out, rev the engine on starter until the fresh water takes all the salt off. (REDO THE PROCESS WHILE YOU TASTE :))
Then when the salty taste is gone.
Put cheap oil in the pan and rinse with it until the mayonnaise is gone.
After that, hope for the best!
Compressions could get better after a while.
Again, no connecting rod had to be bent!
Cheers
I noticed in this video that you were keeping the Viper supported on concrete bricks which are moulded with open through sections. This is a potentially dangerous situation. I have heard of this type of brick can collapse unpredictably. My dad always said that wooden blocks should be used to avoid such problems.
Safety first !
Hahaha i love that this is the only automotive youtube channel with random Cows and chickens walking around LOL
I think sams advertisements are so good cause he always puts sneak peek builds in them so you have to sit there and watch through them 😭
Lmao! Give me the car AND 20 grand, and I'll take it off your hands !
Great work never seen your videos before but New SUB
Welcome aboard!
I bought an early 70s' Ford Capri in the 80s that was a "Water baby" . I dried it out real good and rebuilt the starter and alternator and put a radio In it and drove it for years without any issues then sold it.
There's a whole lotta nothing inside that motor! Guess I'll stay tuned for the next episode!!
Last summer my runabout with a 4.3 v6 suddenly wouldn't turn over. You turn the key and the starter would clunk the flywheel and nothing moved. Since I had replaced the starter the year before I thought it was the starter. I removed it and bought a new one. No change. Took a breaker bar and tried to turn the motor by hand. Nope. I knew of hydro lock but never experienced it. Took all the plugs out and it then turned over. Put the plugs back in. One turn and it froze again. Took the plugs out and left it sit (in the water where it sits every year for the last 6yrs) for the last 2 months of our season, (Wisconsin). Towed it to the boat ramp, took it home, left it for 2 more weeks before attempting to winterize it. Being a 1992 and the fact that we owned it for 7 years with no problems, I didn't really care too much. The oil was not milky, so I performed the winterizing process, put the plugs back in, hooked up the muffs and hit the pump with the rv fluid for winterizing. Turned the key and it started right up!!! Ran like a champ!! We'll see in couple of weeks when I unwinterize it. See if the Viper will turn over with no plugs.
That ending... you're a bad man @samcrac!!