I think if it was opposite, a girl worried about a guy making suggestive comments, people would have a different take. Depends on context, but whenever a guy flirted right in front of me with another girl on a date it was over.
Some people do have a sense of humour and make jokes, sounds like she's almost mocking the guy rather than flirting. The people I know make lots of innuendos and have a dark humour, maybe that's an English thing, the OP sounds dull.
Less than a month into a relationship I was going to cook dinner for a guy and we went to the grocery together. The cashier was very pretty and he openly and outrageously flirted with her right in front of me. When I told him I didn't like it, he got all "we just started dating. We're not in an exclusive thing. Flirting is fun and makes everyone feel good." Uh-huh. It made me feel disrespected and embarrassed. Sorry. When you're with one person, you don't treat them that way. Three years of being "exclusive" guess who cheated on me? I won't need to be whacked in the head with a red flag like that again.
@@trishgladstone7640 my boyfriend and I had our first kiss within a week of our first meeting. If a week later he was flirting with other girls and insinuating he would sleep with them, even jokingly, I'd be gone. I don't flirt with others when I'm dating someone. I commit to the person I'm dating. If it doesn't work out, that's another thing but if I'm dating someone, it shouldn't be said that we're exclusive. I'm 21 as well, college age, and that shit shouldn't fly even if you are in college. Idk why people think being in college is an excuse to flirt around. We are a little over 2 years strong! :3
The context of what kind of girl she is and the friendship dynamics is really important for this story. My firend is 27 married and her joking is flirting at work with everyone without ever being serious. We asked her husband if it bothered him but he explained she has socialized like that with her firends since middle school. Her childhood firends also play flirt alot in the group. Girls among girls, boys among boys and boys and girls. It looks like it's just the way this group interacts. Was kinda embarrassed when I went out with them but there almost all in serious relationships. The real question is if her group is like this and if she was like this when they met. If they were, there's nothing wrong with asking but don't be mad if she agrees or disagree with changing. It'll depend in the individual if there ready to change for a relationship or if they want a partner that can handle her personality.
it’s so creepy and sad how Story 2 OP seems obsessed with education and money, and seems to have never discovered that there is so much more to relationships 😅 if it’s not Rage Bait, then I honestly just feel so bad for this person. They’re so screwed up and clearly have never gotten to experience true real love, obviously shown in how she still doesn’t understand why Dean loves his gf Also yeah Dean needs to cut off OP, not entertaining her 28:43
Yes, in her mind, she still has hope bc he doesn't cut her off completely. He is an idiot with a savior complex. I'd say at this point, with how deranged this girl sounds, he is purring his gf in danger
I love yall but why are you guys trying to gaslight OPs valid feelings of being uncomfortable when your partner is flirting with another person in front of you.
Story 1: Imagine this was a guy making openly flirty sexual comments to a girl (who's into him) in front of his brand new girlfriend. Would everyone be mocking her and saying she shouldn't be dating because she's too insecure? No, they'd be shouting from the rooftops for her to run because he's a walking red flag. Blaming OP for not beings "secure enough" to put up with blatant disrespect and massive red flags is beyond absurd. Absolute garbage take. It sounds like OP is simply struggling to learn how to establish boundaries and how to accept that you aren't compatible with someone when you start seeing red flags. This is probably the first time he's dealt with red flags after getting emotionally sucked in. That doesn't mean he's never had a girlfriend. It just means he's never had one who was this openly dismissive and disrespectful towards a very normal and common boundary.
Yes. Yes they would. Cause this ain't abuse. It's a TWO WEEK RELATIONSHIP. Even kids have relationships longer than that 😂. He's taking this waaay too seriously. It's not his job to change her. 🤷🏽♀️ If anything this is "what not to do while dating 101" men or women, you get with a crappy person like that that radiates crap, you will be trolled online about it.
@@notsuperhumain I never said it was abuse. I said it was a red flag, that's not the same thing. If you honestly think they'd trash a woman like this when the guy she's seeing is throwing red flags then I'm guessing you're new here and have never been on Reddit.
Okay, so like the first story, I understand what he's trying to say I just don't think he worded it correctly. I think he just wanted to be respected, at the very least while he was there, and he found it disrespectful when she flirted in front of him with another man.
First story. I think they didn’t think enough about the store because they read it very weirdly. If a guy I was dating did that I also would be concerned, even if it was just humor. Poor OP was a little insecure with a normal concern and you all bashed him so bad like he was an incel freak 😅
@@eclecticraeen that is NOT “bare minimum” it’s all about what your personal boundaries are. She made it clear she wants a partner who is okay with her humor he cannot expect her to change for him. My partner and I jokingly flirt with friends all time stop pretending YOUR personal boundary is the “correct” one
@@emilyjohn2034okay jeez, it’s a *common* boundary I think is more accurate. Like a baseline you’d go to if you weren’t sure. Like it’s common you don’t get with another person while in a relationship, but some people do have open relationships and that stuff, so technically I think it’s “bare minimum”, but only for if you haven’t talked about it before. Clearly their feelings don’t align on that matter, so that’s the end of that. Compromise could work, but she wasn’t willing, so that it. He’s not wrong for mentioning it, she’s not wrong for denying him, both are kinda wrong for getting too upset but emotions happen so that’s ok lol.
@@lehree8240 except she didn’t get upset she just made it clear that she’s looking for someone who’s okay with her humor and if he wasn’t okay with that it wouldn’t work. She said that very clearly and calmly even according to his side, he’s the one who tried to force it to work and expected her to change. Also joking with your friends is not the same as an open relationship that is an extreme jump
@@emilyjohn2034Except she seemed to be talking as if him asking her such a thing was absolutely horrible and is worth ruining their relationship over. Like fair she didn’t want that in a relationship, but he’s not a bad guy for wanting it. Obviously I could be reading it wrong, but he was even willing to let her joke like that but when he’s not there. It’s like when you have a certain humor around certain people cause some people just aren’t comfortable with it. Like I have some friends who’s humor is practically just being as edgy as humanly possible, cards against humanity level shit, while others are the most wholesome lil guys and they’d get really uncomfortable with it. Like- you CAN adapt and it’s not that hard, she just didn’t want to, and that’s fair and all, but it is a choice she decided was more important than the relationship. If you genuinely can’t adapt like that, then you’d have some trouble in professional circumstances where playfully flirting is just wrong. Like in the workplace, yea a girl might be get away with it (for whatever reason, double standards am I right?) but if a man jokes like that he’d probably get in some big trouble eventually.
Ok op did you do the story on the Girl Who conned her bridesmaid out of money, to get her boobs done while on bachelorette party? There's a massive update on that and it's insane 😮
@@ginabell694 what a twist in the story!!!! Also youtube brought me to OKOP because I watched Charlotte D channel during my long stay in hospital. These channels really got me thought my health dramas.
That barista is psychopathic and it's always sucks when somebody you're interested is not interested in you back but to think the way that she is is so weird and I think Dean and his girlfriend are genuinely nice people who don't see the craziness behind her actions
1st story…the hosts don’t have any objectivity…turn the tables, and guy is flirting with his straight female friend right in front of his partner?? 3 weeks in…that would a red flag to me that this could be a problem going fwd if unchecked…so either break up and move on because ur values don’t align…but then someone would say, u should communicate the issue before making a drastic decision….the OP did that, and he gets blasted?!? What about setting boundaries early on in a new relationship? OP may be young and possibly insecure like a lot of ppl his age, but Blatant disrespect is just wrong! Maya Angelou - "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
I feel like while the premise i.e " guy is flirting with his straight female friend right in front of his partner?? 3 weeks in…that would a red flag" Makes sense however, the issue is very clearly the way the OP talks about it and about his views on relationships in general, I think even if you'd reversed the genders in this case, if a girl was writing half the way OP was writing in that story, we'd look at her like she is delusional. OP doesnt sound rational, he consistently justifies his behaviour, has an enlarged sense of self importance, reads into things so deeply he almost cant handle it and consistently has to claim he isnt jealous or he isnt over reacting when every single word preceeding what he says shows the contrary, I mean come onnn this is NOT a gender swap situation where the reverse would yield different results and if they did, it would most likely be purely down to the way the OP told the story
@@emanx222 I can totally agree that his telling of story makes him look like the cra cra one…but i chalked that up to his age and insecurities, and focused on the act of someone ur dating blatantly flirting in front of their partner and how that must feel (male or female)…at same time the GF was super dismissive when he bought up his concerns (maybe his delivery sucked)…OP even stated that he only found issue with her flirting in his presence and didn’t care if she did it any other time, so definitely not a “control” thing as argued by the hosts. If OP response was to openly flirt with his female friends in front of his GF, am sure she wouldn’t appreciate it…Or maybe she wouldn’t care, which would tell him loads! At the end of the day, if ur partner shares with you an action that is deeply upsetting and within ur control to change AND no cost to you, why wouldn’t at least hear him/her out??? Does she NEED to flirt with her guy friend in front of him, probably not! We make compromises when we enter new relationships…you cant continue to party the same way, sleep with whomever u want, etc. if you decided to enter into a monogamous relationship. 🤷🏽♀️
I know you’re trying to be devils advocate, but based on the way this is written I’m going out on a limb and guess op misconstrued a benign conversation to be sexual and is using this as leverage to direct his girlfriends behavior which is Literally controlling, even if she did actually flirt he doesn’t get to tell her what to do like that, especially for a two week relationship. OP is the one who mentions control in the first place, it doesn’t sound like he’s very secure and most certainly doesnt have a healthy view of relationships. Being nice to people does not mean you’re trying to bang. The fact OP purposely omits/‘forgets’ the context of the “sexual” comment is telling. The post only revealed he is actually unequipped emotionally to be in a relationship with anyone but himself. Top it off with how his girlfriends issues with him are “trivial.” The guys a mess and needs to work on himself.
Story 1....OP is literally correct to feel that way..if the roles were reversed I feel like everyone would be agreeing. The fact even Sophia is agreeing...is so odd to me. It doesn't matter how long they've dated. She committed to being in a relationship and y'all are saying him wanting her not to talk sexual to other men is not normal...I feel like if this happened to any of them it would definitely be a deal breaker in fact in other stories they have said behavior like this is stinky man behavior. Am I in the Twilight zone?!
The way he talks was about controlling her and prioritizing his insecurities/ "boundaries" over her boundaries. She said he crossed a line and they should have broken up. He apologized so she thought he understood and then he keeps trying to control her and prioritize his boundaries over hers. That is what it came down to. In 2 weeks he thinks she should priotize his boundaries over hers. That is why everyone agreed. Just because your partner might be toxic, doesn't mean you can be too. And that is what they were seeing. The red flags lined in the story from what he was saying. Doesn't matter what she was doing
You are allowed to have feelings but who is worst off in a situation like eg: boyfriend doesn't listen, keeps gaslighting and being emotionally abusive. Should you a) talk and leave once you realize nothing will change. B) try to manipulate their feelings by crying, screaming, running away, talk of suicide, or anything to make them change their mind. B might get them to change their mind but at what cost? It is also super toxic. Op was headed down path B with the hints he was leaving and the red flags. It sucks. I know. People have emotions
Wow first OP was intense for a two weeks relationship, We have heard stories about cheating from +5 years married partners with less dramatic and intense emotions
Not really? Dating is dating. You should be as committed day one as you are five years in. You should be committed before you even start officially dating.
I've watched MILES since the Try Guys and seeing him here is making my inner child scream with joy! It's two worlds colliding of my childhood to my adulthood in a good way ❤
I see why story 2 OP “doesn’t seem to have anyone else” (Dean’s words), doesn’t get along with roommates, and talks about how she’s managed life without people - she’s clearly driven off anyone who may have cared about her because all she values is education and status, she seemingly can’t comprehend anything beyond that for why people matter. She doesn’t even explain why she “loves” Dean outside of very surface level accomplishments I genuinely pity her if this is real 30:21
Holy shit that was a round of just horrid takes on the first story. I don't care if we're together 2 week or 20 years you just don't flirt with other people if you're in a relationship. The bully energy in that room was off the charts man, y'all were looking for any reason to make fun of op. No mention of how in the story the gf never denied that her remark was sexual, just "haha op must not have been in lots of relationships lolol" and like... dude was right all along. It's NOT an insane boundary to say "don't flirt with other people, especially in front of me." And for y'all to just laugh it off??? It's like watching the obvious bullies in a fuckin old high school movie, jesus that shit made me cringe.
I'm not gonna pretend op wasn't being extra or dramatic, he should have just walked away once his boundaries weren't being respected. But Jesus the things you guys chose to laugh at were the things that actually made sense?? People are laughed at for saying... don't make sexual jokes with people in front of me. Fuckin wild.
That OP was the same one who celebrated his partner having a miscarriage if I recall the usernames. Pretty sure its just a rage bait account. Double checked, yeah he did make a post talking about being glad his partner had a miscarriage. It's not the same one that I was thinking of but was a cheap imitation. Don't feel bad for him.
@@whatisthis1958 Honestly, it's not really about that guy specifically for me but more the idea that they could have picked things worth making fun of. Like that exactly tbh, like that's insane and behavior that we can all agree is INSANE. But setting normal boundaries? That should be more normalized instead of laughed at like it's unreasonable to set that boundary. I even mentioned before op definitely was blowing it out of proportion, I just think they should have stuck to laughing at the things that are actually worth the mockery.
I get the feeling Dean is one of those human golden retriever people . Very nice, super friendly, always sees the best in people and is just a little bit dumb.
This is the craziest cross over I’ve ever seen. After seeing every try guys and every OKOP episode.. I mean I know y’all live in LA but in my mind we are not all on the same plane of existence
I feel like y’all were a little insensitive. It’s not unreasonable that a man feels uncomfortable when his gf is lightly flirting with another man in front of him.
It's like they completly ignored the gf was flirting and made OP sound all controlling and insecure... And it applies to women too, I would not like to see my bf flirting with anyone.
@@warwick3039 Yeah they were talking like it’s not hella disrespectful. There are things you can’t do or say when in a relationship. Especially not in front of your significant other unless otherwise specified.
@@warwick3039 In a situation like this I miss Riley’s perspective. He’s the only person on this pod who would’ve disagreed with them and provided a different perspective.
I totally understand where kid is coming from. Especially as an older woman, I see these younger women who keep 3-5 guys in their DMS for whatever they need🙄 and a lot of them don't care about your feelings. But also listening to the language that he used I feel like he's kind of on the edge of the red pill- which cool men can learn a lot from some of those but he'll start treading into incel/woman hating water if he's not careful. I feel like maybe he's just a softer person who is afraid of getting hurt/taken advantage of
Sophia has advocated for divorce when the husband did something way less disrespectful than make sexually suggestive comments to other women in front of his wife so it’s really funny to me how all of a sudden when the roles are reversed she’s victim blaming and laughing at this man’s pain.
OP did have the right to feel upset about it but his girlfriend also had the right to stand up for herself. It most likely was just a joke. Jokes between friends like that are common, or at least in my friend group it is. Its clear him and her just have totally differing views on what's OK in a relationship and should just break up. It's a two week relationship, dude will get over it. I had a longer lasting relationship than that in year 7.
first story: you guys are hypocrites if you switched the genders you may not be on op's side you would have given them a lot of slack for being young. On top of that I don't think its unreasonable to not want your partner joking that they might hook up with someone else period, doesn't matter if they are not attracted to your partner for whatever reason
And if that’s your boundary that’s fine. But it’s not everyone’s. She was very clear that jokingly flirting is her humor and she’s looking for a partner that’s okay with that. He cannot expect her to change to fit what he’s looking for if he isn’t okay with that he needs to just leave
13:52 THIS! My ex boyfriend later in our relationship started trying to tell me what to do and say and saying things like he thought I was being childish and it just ended up pissing me off and making him way less attractive in my eyes.
36:46 the way OP didn’t see that _she’s_ the problem that needs to be removed from Dean’s life! OMFH! My girl is the most delusional woman….no _PERSON_ in all of Delulu Land!
Second story OP: If it’s true, it’s honestly really sad to me. Like I pity that OP. If it’s not rage bait and she’s being completely honest in writing this, then it sounds like she’s never known or understood anything about what genuine real love looks like and feels like, (which I’m interpreting from her inability to comprehend why Dean would stay with some “uneducated and unemployed”). It’s like the only value she sees in people is the money and education level and status. And that’s genuinely so sad and tragic. She definitely needs therapy. She needs to stay away from Dean and Helen. But the more I think about it, the more I feel like her life must truly be so sad and empty. Because she very likely applies this logic to all of her friendships and other relationships as well. She really needs some help.
I'm only 11mins in and I love how totally silly and fun you guys are being with each other. Sounds like a blast. I totally miss having these kinds of moments with my friends.
Story 2 OP shows grandiose personality or behaviour. What was the purpose or the screenshot? she really feels better than the man's gf. She's deluded Dean is either daft or likes attention. Some people like drama so will enable it
I think story 3 may be world of warcraft as you can do raids with 10 people and raids can last for about 5 hours as it takes time with tactics and prepping for bosses and taking out mobs. It's not as good playing on your own as you can get bad groups who don't communicate well with tactics so it is better to have a regular group who you know works well together. I can understand her frustration. Also 3-4 days sounds about right as raids reset every week so if you haven't cleared them you loose all the progress you have made which sucks that's why people play so often. Anyway enough geeking out from me just a theory 😂
Omg when two of your favorite RUclipsrs come together for an episode this is amazing please have miles come back in the future this has to be the best episode you have done!!
First story: I think y’all ignored the main part of the story. If she was that disrespectful in front of him, Imagine what she says behind his back. No way I’m flirting in front of my significant other. That is very disrespectful and shows that they do not value the relationship at all.
Ngl the fact that you guys are laughing at the first story is pretty sad and upsetting. If the genders were reversed, i guarantee they wouldn't be laughing and talking about how boundaries for a new relationship are important. But because it's a guy and the relationship has only been going on for 2 weeks, i guess his boundaries are funny to you guys??? Imagine if it was happening in your new relationship. Everyone's boundaries should be understood and respected even if you don't believe in them yourself. He had a clear boundary and she didn't care. It doesn't matter how long the relationship has been going on, that's not okay to be flirting with friends when you're in a relationship. My boyfriend and I had our first kiss within a week of our first meeting. If a week later he was flirting with other girls and insinuating he would sleep with them, even jokingly, I'd be gone. I don't flirt with others when I'm dating someone. I commit to the person I'm dating even if it was just starting. If it doesn't work out, that's another thing but if I'm dating someone, it shouldn't be said that we're exclusive. I'm 21 as well, college age, and that shit shouldn't fly even if you are in college. Idk why people think being in college is an excuse to flirt around. We are a little over 2 years strong and it's not funny to laugh about someone's boundaries.
THANK YOU that shit was giving such bully energy. Like, maybe op reacted pretty strongly with some things like saying he was controlled, but y'all chose to laugh at the normal boundaries that most people have???
@@gokuson5791seriously. I feel like not flirting with someone when you're in a relationship ESPECIALLY if it's new should be an unsaid boundary especially if you want it to be exclusive. The fact that they were laughing at a reasonable boundary is pretty sad.
Just when I thought their views couldn't get any worse. I was bullied in school as a child so just listening to them act like bullies towards OP in the first story really made me feel like garbage.
@@j.b.l.0-f3zseriously. Some of their most recent takes have been awful and downright bullying. It's making it harder and harder to watch them. It's one thing if we have a different opinion, but to laugh at someone's boundaries??? There's nothing funny about that
I think Dean likes the attention he gets from OP but doesn't want her. Won't be with her but will keep in contact just enough to keep her obsession going.
I think Dean feels sorry for her, and judges people based on how he is. So cannot see how she is dangerous. Cannot see how anyone could be horrible to people.
Omg yesssss I have never dropped everything I was doing to watch a video more quickly!!!!!! I love this pairing! Yall always remind me of Miles’s goofy humor and he’s also from nc! Love it!!!
I think OP in the first story has perfectly normal relationship standards and healthy boundaries and it's really mean that you guys are invalidating his emotions like that. Imagine the genders were reversed
@@stampandscrap7494Absolutely not. It's the bare minimum to not flirt infront of your partner even if it is the start of a relationship. If I started a relationship and saw my partner make weird innuendos towards another girl even in a joking way, I would not feel comfortable. If she wants to flirt with people she 100% is allowed to, but be single or don't be surprised if your partner finds it weird.
Third story: The best friend is NOT gay, he's bi, but leaning towards guys maybe as much as 70/30, but likely less. It's unfortunate how the community has mostly excluded bisexuals, they want you to "pick a side". I am strictly hetero myself, but I've always understood that leaning, maybe because I always loved Treasure Island as a child, but knew I could never be a cabin boy. Secondly. when I was in junior high (7th-8th grade) my church group was exclusively male except for me. They nicknamed me FLAG (First Lady Among Guys) and it was very enjoyable. There was never any special treatment, but there was also no harassment. So don't immediately distrust joining a guy group as a female.
Don't feel too bad. I've known people like that and they are always seeking their own highs and happiness no matter the cost to those around them, and are always spiteful little shits to those who go against them even in the slightest way. I run the second I catch a whiff of that behaviour after the shit I've seen lol
@@whatisthis1958 oh yeah no I definitely wouldn’t want to try to be friends with anyone like that. It’s just sad to me hearing someone genuinely think that’s how you’re supposed to value people and honestly believes that’s how everyone else thinks too. Definitely sounds like that psychiatric disorder where they have no empathy
Dean is wrong (about he feels), Reddit is wrong, anyone who reads this story wrong. Why isn’t everyone as smart as she is? Why can’t they see her vision? 🤦🏾♀️😭
I think you guys are forgetting the relationship is literally 2 weeks that’s all. And I know I personally am the kind of person who jokingly flirt with my friends and I also need a partner who is okay with that because thats just my personality she has every right to want that in a partner and he does not get to control her that way if he doesn’t like that he can leave NOT try and change her. (And yes my partner also jokingly flirts with his friends that’s just some peoples humor)
I never disliked anyone until I met a girl in the dorms at college. One other person was a guy in one my event management class. He wanted to be the lead and things were going great. Then he just stopped turning up, no word to anyone until the lecturer informed us a couple of weeks later he had left the class. I learnt that day he and the girl were dating so they were made for each other. Douchebags.
I think if it was opposite, a girl worried about a guy making suggestive comments, people would have a different take.
Depends on context, but whenever a guy flirted right in front of me with another girl on a date it was over.
Some people do have a sense of humour and make jokes, sounds like she's almost mocking the guy rather than flirting. The people I know make lots of innuendos and have a dark humour, maybe that's an English thing, the OP sounds dull.
Less than a month into a relationship I was going to cook dinner for a guy and we went to the grocery together. The cashier was very pretty and he openly and outrageously flirted with her right in front of me. When I told him I didn't like it, he got all "we just started dating. We're not in an exclusive thing. Flirting is fun and makes everyone feel good." Uh-huh. It made me feel disrespected and embarrassed. Sorry. When you're with one person, you don't treat them that way. Three years of being "exclusive" guess who cheated on me? I won't need to be whacked in the head with a red flag like that again.
@@trishgladstone7640 Same here. Have several stories from my single dating era!
The deflections is a red flag vs hearing the concerns.
@@trishgladstone7640 my boyfriend and I had our first kiss within a week of our first meeting. If a week later he was flirting with other girls and insinuating he would sleep with them, even jokingly, I'd be gone. I don't flirt with others when I'm dating someone. I commit to the person I'm dating. If it doesn't work out, that's another thing but if I'm dating someone, it shouldn't be said that we're exclusive. I'm 21 as well, college age, and that shit shouldn't fly even if you are in college. Idk why people think being in college is an excuse to flirt around. We are a little over 2 years strong! :3
The context of what kind of girl she is and the friendship dynamics is really important for this story. My firend is 27 married and her joking is flirting at work with everyone without ever being serious. We asked her husband if it bothered him but he explained she has socialized like that with her firends since middle school.
Her childhood firends also play flirt alot in the group. Girls among girls, boys among boys and boys and girls. It looks like it's just the way this group interacts. Was kinda embarrassed when I went out with them but there almost all in serious relationships.
The real question is if her group is like this and if she was like this when they met. If they were, there's nothing wrong with asking but don't be mad if she agrees or disagree with changing. It'll depend in the individual if there ready to change for a relationship or if they want a partner that can handle her personality.
The barista is out of her whole mind … he needs a restraining order. She’s insane
Miles came as a nice surprise. Yay for the guest episode!
it’s so creepy and sad how Story 2 OP seems obsessed with education and money, and seems to have never discovered that there is so much more to relationships 😅 if it’s not Rage Bait, then I honestly just feel so bad for this person. They’re so screwed up and clearly have never gotten to experience true real love, obviously shown in how she still doesn’t understand why Dean loves his gf
Also yeah Dean needs to cut off OP, not entertaining her 28:43
Yes, in her mind, she still has hope bc he doesn't cut her off completely. He is an idiot with a savior complex. I'd say at this point, with how deranged this girl sounds, he is purring his gf in danger
MILES NATION!!!!! 😎
That barista is more than setting the foundation for being a stalker
She already is. I bet you she is already doing watch sessions
I would even say she could be thinking of committing a m*rder 😮
Does this mean The Miles Nation is apart of the Worm Queen's Army???
We are one in the same 😂
I love yall but why are you guys trying to gaslight OPs valid feelings of being uncomfortable when your partner is flirting with another person in front of you.
Story 1: Imagine this was a guy making openly flirty sexual comments to a girl (who's into him) in front of his brand new girlfriend. Would everyone be mocking her and saying she shouldn't be dating because she's too insecure? No, they'd be shouting from the rooftops for her to run because he's a walking red flag. Blaming OP for not beings "secure enough" to put up with blatant disrespect and massive red flags is beyond absurd. Absolute garbage take.
It sounds like OP is simply struggling to learn how to establish boundaries and how to accept that you aren't compatible with someone when you start seeing red flags. This is probably the first time he's dealt with red flags after getting emotionally sucked in. That doesn't mean he's never had a girlfriend. It just means he's never had one who was this openly dismissive and disrespectful towards a very normal and common boundary.
Yes!
Yes. Yes they would. Cause this ain't abuse. It's a TWO WEEK RELATIONSHIP. Even kids have relationships longer than that 😂. He's taking this waaay too seriously. It's not his job to change her. 🤷🏽♀️ If anything this is "what not to do while dating 101" men or women, you get with a crappy person like that that radiates crap, you will be trolled online about it.
@@notsuperhumain I never said it was abuse. I said it was a red flag, that's not the same thing.
If you honestly think they'd trash a woman like this when the guy she's seeing is throwing red flags then I'm guessing you're new here and have never been on Reddit.
No they wouldnt, they would be calling him controlling and tell her to leave him.@notsuperhumain
Okay, so like the first story, I understand what he's trying to say I just don't think he worded it correctly. I think he just wanted to be respected, at the very least while he was there, and he found it disrespectful when she flirted in front of him with another man.
First story. I think they didn’t think enough about the store because they read it very weirdly. If a guy I was dating did that I also would be concerned, even if it was just humor. Poor OP was a little insecure with a normal concern and you all bashed him so bad like he was an incel freak 😅
A literally bare minimum requirement for a relationship is to NOT DO THAT. Not one of them would accept that behavior especially Sophia. Im shocked 😂😂
@@eclecticraeen that is NOT “bare minimum” it’s all about what your personal boundaries are. She made it clear she wants a partner who is okay with her humor he cannot expect her to change for him. My partner and I jokingly flirt with friends all time stop pretending YOUR personal boundary is the “correct” one
@@emilyjohn2034okay jeez, it’s a *common* boundary I think is more accurate. Like a baseline you’d go to if you weren’t sure. Like it’s common you don’t get with another person while in a relationship, but some people do have open relationships and that stuff, so technically I think it’s “bare minimum”, but only for if you haven’t talked about it before. Clearly their feelings don’t align on that matter, so that’s the end of that. Compromise could work, but she wasn’t willing, so that it. He’s not wrong for mentioning it, she’s not wrong for denying him, both are kinda wrong for getting too upset but emotions happen so that’s ok lol.
@@lehree8240 except she didn’t get upset she just made it clear that she’s looking for someone who’s okay with her humor and if he wasn’t okay with that it wouldn’t work. She said that very clearly and calmly even according to his side, he’s the one who tried to force it to work and expected her to change. Also joking with your friends is not the same as an open relationship that is an extreme jump
@@emilyjohn2034Except she seemed to be talking as if him asking her such a thing was absolutely horrible and is worth ruining their relationship over. Like fair she didn’t want that in a relationship, but he’s not a bad guy for wanting it. Obviously I could be reading it wrong, but he was even willing to let her joke like that but when he’s not there. It’s like when you have a certain humor around certain people cause some people just aren’t comfortable with it. Like I have some friends who’s humor is practically just being as edgy as humanly possible, cards against humanity level shit, while others are the most wholesome lil guys and they’d get really uncomfortable with it. Like- you CAN adapt and it’s not that hard, she just didn’t want to, and that’s fair and all, but it is a choice she decided was more important than the relationship. If you genuinely can’t adapt like that, then you’d have some trouble in professional circumstances where playfully flirting is just wrong. Like in the workplace, yea a girl might be get away with it (for whatever reason, double standards am I right?) but if a man jokes like that he’d probably get in some big trouble eventually.
Ok op did you do the story on the Girl Who conned her bridesmaid out of money, to get her boobs done while on bachelorette party? There's a massive update on that and it's insane 😮
I watched Charlotte's video earlier today!!!!!
Share please
@@ginabell694 what a twist in the story!!!!
Also youtube brought me to OKOP because I watched Charlotte D channel during my long stay in hospital. These channels really got me thought my health dramas.
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That barista is psychopathic and it's always sucks when somebody you're interested is not interested in you back but to think the way that she is is so weird and I think Dean and his girlfriend are genuinely nice people who don't see the craziness behind her actions
I have been a part of the Miles Nation for years so I'm happy to see this crossover!
1st story…the hosts don’t have any objectivity…turn the tables, and guy is flirting with his straight female friend right in front of his partner?? 3 weeks in…that would a red flag to me that this could be a problem going fwd if unchecked…so either break up and move on because ur values don’t align…but then someone would say, u should communicate the issue before making a drastic decision….the OP did that, and he gets blasted?!? What about setting boundaries early on in a new relationship? OP may be young and possibly insecure like a lot of ppl his age, but
Blatant disrespect is just wrong! Maya Angelou - "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
I feel like while the premise i.e " guy is flirting with his straight female friend right in front of his partner?? 3 weeks in…that would a red flag"
Makes sense however, the issue is very clearly the way the OP talks about it and about his views on relationships in general, I think even if you'd reversed the genders in this case, if a girl was writing half the way OP was writing in that story, we'd look at her like she is delusional.
OP doesnt sound rational, he consistently justifies his behaviour, has an enlarged sense of self importance, reads into things so deeply he almost cant handle it and consistently has to claim he isnt jealous or he isnt over reacting when every single word preceeding what he says shows the contrary, I mean come onnn this is NOT a gender swap situation where the reverse would yield different results and if they did, it would most likely be purely down to the way the OP told the story
@@emanx222 I can totally agree that his telling of story makes him look like the cra cra one…but i chalked that up to his age and insecurities, and focused on the act of someone ur dating blatantly flirting in front of their partner and how that must feel (male or female)…at same time the GF was super dismissive when he bought up his concerns (maybe his delivery sucked)…OP even stated that he only found issue with her flirting in his presence and didn’t care if she did it any other time, so definitely not a “control” thing as argued by the hosts. If OP response was to openly flirt with his female friends in front of his GF, am sure she wouldn’t appreciate it…Or maybe she wouldn’t care, which would tell him loads! At the end of the day, if ur partner shares with you an action that is deeply upsetting and within ur control to change AND no cost to you, why wouldn’t at least hear him/her out??? Does she NEED to flirt with her guy friend in front of him, probably not! We make compromises when we enter new relationships…you cant continue to party the same way, sleep with whomever u want, etc. if you decided to enter into a monogamous relationship. 🤷🏽♀️
I know you’re trying to be devils advocate, but based on the way this is written I’m going out on a limb and guess op misconstrued a benign conversation to be sexual and is using this as leverage to direct his girlfriends behavior which is Literally controlling, even if she did actually flirt he doesn’t get to tell her what to do like that, especially for a two week relationship. OP is the one who mentions control in the first place, it doesn’t sound like he’s very secure and most certainly doesnt have a healthy view of relationships. Being nice to people does not mean you’re trying to bang. The fact OP purposely omits/‘forgets’ the context of the “sexual” comment is telling. The post only revealed he is actually unequipped emotionally to be in a relationship with anyone but himself. Top it off with how his girlfriends issues with him are “trivial.” The guys a mess and needs to work on himself.
The mirror behind john and miles gave me uncanny valley chills lol it never bothered me before
Yay I went to watch an old video but got a notification a new one dropped 🎉
The barista story is so wyyyyyyld 💀
Girl, Im ready to throw hands w barista for Helen.😂 Ain't no way....
woah im so proud of yall for the miles collab! watching you guys since 2022, it’s been nice to see the journey you have all gone through :)
Story 1....OP is literally correct to feel that way..if the roles were reversed I feel like everyone would be agreeing. The fact even Sophia is agreeing...is so odd to me. It doesn't matter how long they've dated. She committed to being in a relationship and y'all are saying him wanting her not to talk sexual to other men is not normal...I feel like if this happened to any of them it would definitely be a deal breaker in fact in other stories they have said behavior like this is stinky man behavior. Am I in the Twilight zone?!
The way he talks was about controlling her and prioritizing his insecurities/ "boundaries" over her boundaries. She said he crossed a line and they should have broken up. He apologized so she thought he understood and then he keeps trying to control her and prioritize his boundaries over hers. That is what it came down to. In 2 weeks he thinks she should priotize his boundaries over hers. That is why everyone agreed. Just because your partner might be toxic, doesn't mean you can be too. And that is what they were seeing. The red flags lined in the story from what he was saying. Doesn't matter what she was doing
You are allowed to have feelings but who is worst off in a situation like eg:
boyfriend doesn't listen, keeps gaslighting and being emotionally abusive. Should you
a) talk and leave once you realize nothing will change.
B) try to manipulate their feelings by crying, screaming, running away, talk of suicide, or anything to make them change their mind.
B might get them to change their mind but at what cost? It is also super toxic. Op was headed down path B with the hints he was leaving and the red flags.
It sucks. I know. People have emotions
Wow first OP was intense for a two weeks relationship, We have heard stories about cheating from +5 years married partners with less dramatic and intense emotions
Not really? Dating is dating. You should be as committed day one as you are five years in. You should be committed before you even start officially dating.
I've watched MILES since the Try Guys and seeing him here is making my inner child scream with joy! It's two worlds colliding of my childhood to my adulthood in a good way ❤
40:04 Dean is so nice he became TA 😂🤣
I see why story 2 OP “doesn’t seem to have anyone else” (Dean’s words), doesn’t get along with roommates, and talks about how she’s managed life without people - she’s clearly driven off anyone who may have cared about her because all she values is education and status, she seemingly can’t comprehend anything beyond that for why people matter. She doesn’t even explain why she “loves” Dean outside of very surface level accomplishments
I genuinely pity her if this is real 30:21
Holy shit that was a round of just horrid takes on the first story. I don't care if we're together 2 week or 20 years you just don't flirt with other people if you're in a relationship. The bully energy in that room was off the charts man, y'all were looking for any reason to make fun of op. No mention of how in the story the gf never denied that her remark was sexual, just "haha op must not have been in lots of relationships lolol" and like... dude was right all along. It's NOT an insane boundary to say "don't flirt with other people, especially in front of me." And for y'all to just laugh it off??? It's like watching the obvious bullies in a fuckin old high school movie, jesus that shit made me cringe.
I'm not gonna pretend op wasn't being extra or dramatic, he should have just walked away once his boundaries weren't being respected. But Jesus the things you guys chose to laugh at were the things that actually made sense?? People are laughed at for saying... don't make sexual jokes with people in front of me. Fuckin wild.
That OP was the same one who celebrated his partner having a miscarriage if I recall the usernames. Pretty sure its just a rage bait account.
Double checked, yeah he did make a post talking about being glad his partner had a miscarriage. It's not the same one that I was thinking of but was a cheap imitation. Don't feel bad for him.
@@whatisthis1958 Honestly, it's not really about that guy specifically for me but more the idea that they could have picked things worth making fun of. Like that exactly tbh, like that's insane and behavior that we can all agree is INSANE. But setting normal boundaries? That should be more normalized instead of laughed at like it's unreasonable to set that boundary. I even mentioned before op definitely was blowing it out of proportion, I just think they should have stuck to laughing at the things that are actually worth the mockery.
@@whatisthis1958 but definitely fucc op if he's genuinely happy about miscarriages, that's actually crazy.
I get the feeling Dean is one of those human golden retriever people . Very nice, super friendly, always sees the best in people and is just a little bit dumb.
Flirting with someone else is cheating. OP was definitely valid to feel the way he did.
Thank you, Miles!! I always ask my friends like what you are doing still allowing this person to reach out to you, when they are being weird af?
This is the craziest cross over I’ve ever seen. After seeing every try guys and every OKOP episode.. I mean I know y’all live in LA but in my mind we are not all on the same plane of existence
I feel like y’all were a little insensitive. It’s not unreasonable that a man feels uncomfortable when his gf is lightly flirting with another man in front of him.
Yeah I felt the same
It's like they completly ignored the gf was flirting and made OP sound all controlling and insecure...
And it applies to women too, I would not like to see my bf flirting with anyone.
@@warwick3039 Yeah they were talking like it’s not hella disrespectful. There are things you can’t do or say when in a relationship. Especially not in front of your significant other unless otherwise specified.
@@warwick3039 In a situation like this I miss Riley’s perspective. He’s the only person on this pod who would’ve disagreed with them and provided a different perspective.
I totally understand where kid is coming from. Especially as an older woman, I see these younger women who keep 3-5 guys in their DMS for whatever they need🙄 and a lot of them don't care about your feelings. But also listening to the language that he used I feel like he's kind of on the edge of the red pill- which cool men can learn a lot from some of those but he'll start treading into incel/woman hating water if he's not careful. I feel like maybe he's just a softer person who is afraid of getting hurt/taken advantage of
Love you guys so much, working at the post office and listening to this right now!! I’m so early!!!!!!!!!!
Miles is right, Dean is just too nice.
At this point, he is an idiot
OMG STORY 2 OP **IS** AZULA 😳 🔥 good catch Sofia, that’s the psychopathy I was getting from this too 32:08
Sophia has advocated for divorce when the husband did something way less disrespectful than make sexually suggestive comments to other women in front of his wife so it’s really funny to me how all of a sudden when the roles are reversed she’s victim blaming and laughing at this man’s pain.
OP did have the right to feel upset about it but his girlfriend also had the right to stand up for herself. It most likely was just a joke. Jokes between friends like that are common, or at least in my friend group it is. Its clear him and her just have totally differing views on what's OK in a relationship and should just break up. It's a two week relationship, dude will get over it. I had a longer lasting relationship than that in year 7.
first story: you guys are hypocrites if you switched the genders you may not be on op's side you would have given them a lot of slack for being young. On top of that I don't think its unreasonable to not want your partner joking that they might hook up with someone else period, doesn't matter if they are not attracted to your partner for whatever reason
And if that’s your boundary that’s fine. But it’s not everyone’s. She was very clear that jokingly flirting is her humor and she’s looking for a partner that’s okay with that. He cannot expect her to change to fit what he’s looking for if he isn’t okay with that he needs to just leave
The barista is giving crimes of passion vibes..... 😳😬
That lady summary of the texts are a lot nicer than the stuff she actually sent. She crazy & bitter
"Marketing degree from DeVri University"
💀 oh noe
Miles already classing up the joint here! Good to see you, man!
Last Story the boyfriend asks why OP can’t just be happy (with being excluded mind you) as she looks for other people to play with to be happy….
Milesssssss this is the best crossover!!!!
Miles on OKOP? My two worlds collided and i am loving it! Now i want OKOP on tryguys
13:52 THIS! My ex boyfriend later in our relationship started trying to tell me what to do and say and saying things like he thought I was being childish and it just ended up pissing me off and making him way less attractive in my eyes.
watching 7 1 hour vids to get thru my shift >>>
36:46 the way OP didn’t see that _she’s_ the problem that needs to be removed from Dean’s life!
OMFH! My girl is the most delusional woman….no _PERSON_ in all of Delulu Land!
Dean's clearly been leading her on thus whole time and also made his gf walk 2 hours to bring his nother soup? Dean is the AH
The banter was especially humorous this time😊
Second story OP: If it’s true, it’s honestly really sad to me. Like I pity that OP. If it’s not rage bait and she’s being completely honest in writing this, then it sounds like she’s never known or understood anything about what genuine real love looks like and feels like, (which I’m interpreting from her inability to comprehend why Dean would stay with some “uneducated and unemployed”). It’s like the only value she sees in people is the money and education level and status. And that’s genuinely so sad and tragic. She definitely needs therapy. She needs to stay away from Dean and Helen.
But the more I think about it, the more I feel like her life must truly be so sad and empty. Because she very likely applies this logic to all of her friendships and other relationships as well. She really needs some help.
Love Miles!! Great to watch two of my fav worlds come together!
I'm hoping some of these stories are rage bait, because these stories are wild 😂
I'm only 11mins in and I love how totally silly and fun you guys are being with each other. Sounds like a blast. I totally miss having these kinds of moments with my friends.
MILES NATION 😂❤😭😭😭
This is the definition of too many cooks in the kitchen
Story 2 OP shows grandiose personality or behaviour.
What was the purpose or the screenshot? she really feels better than the man's gf. She's deluded
Dean is either daft or likes attention. Some people like drama so will enable it
In the first story, it's not about control, but about respect.
OMG that girl or guy who wants Dean is crazy oml--
I died at Azula vibes.🤣
I think story 3 may be world of warcraft as you can do raids with 10 people and raids can last for about 5 hours as it takes time with tactics and prepping for bosses and taking out mobs. It's not as good playing on your own as you can get bad groups who don't communicate well with tactics so it is better to have a regular group who you know works well together. I can understand her frustration. Also 3-4 days sounds about right as raids reset every week so if you haven't cleared them you loose all the progress you have made which sucks that's why people play so often. Anyway enough geeking out from me just a theory 😂
Was not expecting this crossover but fucking Miles!!!!! Love how chaotic this was 😂
Yay, a collab!!
This was a fun episode. Never seen Sophia laugh so much.
Omg when two of your favorite RUclipsrs come together for an episode this is amazing please have miles come back in the future this has to be the best episode you have done!!
First story: I think y’all ignored the main part of the story. If she was that disrespectful in front of him, Imagine what she says behind his back. No way I’m flirting in front of my significant other. That is very disrespectful and shows that they do not value the relationship at all.
Love your guest! This was one of the funniest episodes for me. Please have all of you together again some time in the future.
U/TooManyAnts is a HERO. Too bad Dean is a lemming
Sophia said the B word?!?!? I never thought I'd see the day 😂
The first story just had no end and I am sure my cats thought I was having a seizure in my snort filled laughter.
My stomach hurts
Ngl the fact that you guys are laughing at the first story is pretty sad and upsetting. If the genders were reversed, i guarantee they wouldn't be laughing and talking about how boundaries for a new relationship are important. But because it's a guy and the relationship has only been going on for 2 weeks, i guess his boundaries are funny to you guys??? Imagine if it was happening in your new relationship. Everyone's boundaries should be understood and respected even if you don't believe in them yourself. He had a clear boundary and she didn't care. It doesn't matter how long the relationship has been going on, that's not okay to be flirting with friends when you're in a relationship. My boyfriend and I had our first kiss within a week of our first meeting. If a week later he was flirting with other girls and insinuating he would sleep with them, even jokingly, I'd be gone. I don't flirt with others when I'm dating someone. I commit to the person I'm dating even if it was just starting. If it doesn't work out, that's another thing but if I'm dating someone, it shouldn't be said that we're exclusive. I'm 21 as well, college age, and that shit shouldn't fly even if you are in college. Idk why people think being in college is an excuse to flirt around. We are a little over 2 years strong and it's not funny to laugh about someone's boundaries.
THANK YOU that shit was giving such bully energy. Like, maybe op reacted pretty strongly with some things like saying he was controlled, but y'all chose to laugh at the normal boundaries that most people have???
@@gokuson5791seriously. I feel like not flirting with someone when you're in a relationship ESPECIALLY if it's new should be an unsaid boundary especially if you want it to be exclusive. The fact that they were laughing at a reasonable boundary is pretty sad.
Facts!!!!! I couldn't believe it.... I ran straight to the comments.
Just when I thought their views couldn't get any worse. I was bullied in school as a child so just listening to them act like bullies towards OP in the first story really made me feel like garbage.
@@j.b.l.0-f3zseriously. Some of their most recent takes have been awful and downright bullying. It's making it harder and harder to watch them. It's one thing if we have a different opinion, but to laugh at someone's boundaries??? There's nothing funny about that
I think Dean likes the attention he gets from OP but doesn't want her. Won't be with her but will keep in contact just enough to keep her obsession going.
I think Dean feels sorry for her, and judges people based on how he is. So cannot see how she is dangerous. Cannot see how anyone could be horrible to people.
Omg yesssss I have never dropped everything I was doing to watch a video more quickly!!!!!! I love this pairing! Yall always remind me of Miles’s goofy humor and he’s also from nc! Love it!!!
Great to see Miles as a special guest! Hope to see more of that. Miles Nation!
OMG OKOP Just got better by having Miles!!! Nah, they are always awesome
Oh my lord the uno reverse card in the second story is WILD!!! I love Reddit 😂
D&D on the pod??? Count me in!!
Bruh, the fact that she linked him the post, idk if I can believe this post anymore 😆😂
44:00 I would DIE for an OKOP DnD stream
I think OP in the first story has perfectly normal relationship standards and healthy boundaries and it's really mean that you guys are invalidating his emotions like that. Imagine the genders were reversed
If this was a girl saying what he is saying the way he us saying it. She'd be getting a roasting too.
He's coming accross as insecure and controlling.
@@stampandscrap7494Absolutely not. It's the bare minimum to not flirt infront of your partner even if it is the start of a relationship. If I started a relationship and saw my partner make weird innuendos towards another girl even in a joking way, I would not feel comfortable. If she wants to flirt with people she 100% is allowed to, but be single or don't be surprised if your partner finds it weird.
Third story: The best friend is NOT gay, he's bi, but leaning towards guys maybe as much as 70/30, but likely less. It's unfortunate how the community has mostly excluded bisexuals, they want you to "pick a side". I am strictly hetero myself, but I've always understood that leaning, maybe because I always loved Treasure Island as a child, but knew I could never be a cabin boy.
Secondly. when I was in junior high (7th-8th grade) my church group was exclusively male except for me. They nicknamed me FLAG (First Lady Among Guys) and it was very enjoyable. There was never any special treatment, but there was also no harassment. So don't immediately distrust joining a guy group as a female.
Yaaayyyyy!! Love Miles!
33:54 he just thinks he’s happy cuz he feels happy. What an idiot. 🤦🏾♀️🤗
Can we get Miles as a regular guest!?
Deen loves the other girl but loves the fact someone is so much into him
omg the insecurity in that guy 😭
Story 2 is just tragic. Maybe I’m too empathetic but I just immensely pity OP, her thought process is just so sad 😞
Don't feel too bad. I've known people like that and they are always seeking their own highs and happiness no matter the cost to those around them, and are always spiteful little shits to those who go against them even in the slightest way. I run the second I catch a whiff of that behaviour after the shit I've seen lol
@@whatisthis1958 oh yeah no I definitely wouldn’t want to try to be friends with anyone like that. It’s just sad to me hearing someone genuinely think that’s how you’re supposed to value people and honestly believes that’s how everyone else thinks too. Definitely sounds like that psychiatric disorder where they have no empathy
These stories were so surreal lmao. Great episode ❤
35:44 I wish I was brave enough to tell you a story about how true that comment was….
And it gets cold in NY….🤦🏾♀️😭
Roger sounds like Andy Hamilton from The Simpsons.
There are very few people that I dislike, it takes a lot to get me to “hate” someone.
Dean is wrong (about he feels), Reddit is wrong, anyone who reads this story wrong. Why isn’t everyone as smart as she is? Why can’t they see her vision? 🤦🏾♀️😭
Yaaas love Miles!!
I think you guys are forgetting the relationship is literally 2 weeks that’s all. And I know I personally am the kind of person who jokingly flirt with my friends and I also need a partner who is okay with that because thats just my personality she has every right to want that in a partner and he does not get to control her that way if he doesn’t like that he can leave NOT try and change her. (And yes my partner also jokingly flirts with his friends that’s just some peoples humor)
12:32 this right here is why Sam is Ted Mosby in my head 😭😭😭😭
Tell me you don’t game online without telling me 😭 they didn’t get it from “callouts”?
Sophia’s laugh at 16:57 was so funny
I never disliked anyone until I met a girl in the dorms at college.
One other person was a guy in one my event management class. He wanted to be the lead and things were going great. Then he just stopped turning up, no word to anyone until the lecturer informed us a couple of weeks later he had left the class.
I learnt that day he and the girl were dating so they were made for each other. Douchebags.
I love John so much, such a hottie.
Just wondering. If you had a friend who was very anti-male and constantly talked about how men were trash. Would you go no contact with her?
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