Ik heb het eerder gezegd ik ken geen anderen nieuwslezer die zo RELAXED werkt ...hou die winkels dicht op zondag...... DANK JE WEL ik groet u Andrè Nederland
Baie dankie hiervoor, en vir die pragmatiese antwoord op die Sondag vraag. Baie van ons wat in ander dele van Suid Afrika bly, het gewoond geraak aan die sekulere verval van die samelewing, waar besighede, selfs drankwinkels, op Sondae handel dryf. Ons het vergeet dat onse Here op die sewende dag gerus het, en sodoende die gedragspatroon vir werk en rus vir ons gegee het. Ook dat ons God aanbidding vereis, en dat die minste wat ons kan doen, is om een dag per week aan die Here toe te wy, en dit te gebruik om aan Hom ere te gee en Hom te aanbid. Orania is op die regte pad wat geestelike leiding betref. Op my onlangse besoek, was my ervaaring asof ek weer terug was in die 1980s. Ek het ook een van die eredienste bygewoon, en die suiwere bybel onderrig baie geniet.
As ek so na mense luister wonder ek hoe die voortrekkers aan die trek gekom het. Orania is n vryheidsbesluit nie n rustige aftrede nie. Jy glo en werk daaraan. Ons afrikaners het saf geword
Ek dink n vraag wat baie jong mense het is, is dit moontlik om n lewe daar te begin as jy nie finansieel goed af is nie. Sal jy jou lewe kan los en Orania toe trek, en eintlik n goeie lewe daar kan bou, en nie in armoede lewe nie?
Wouldn't it have been smarter to split the land between white and black South Africans at the end of apartheid? So that both form their own independent countries where they can live on their own? Would probably have been a lot safer.
That was what Dr Verwoerd planned: a homeland for each tribe. So that every tribe/ culture can govern themselves and speak their own language. . It was a brilliant plan but the world screamed: Apartheid, No to Apartheid! Today, South Africa is a mess.
@@anna-mariedupreez542 Spot on... He wanted a system closer to the American system with senators, representation, etc. Vorster's people didn't like the idea of giving that much power to other groups of people... and well, let's just say that Verwoerd's assassination was very convenient for their agenda. His briefcase containing the speech was also never recovered, but let me rather leave it there...
Why does the global system allow Orania to exist? Speculation: Destroying Orania would require an unprovoked government military attack, which would be recognised as a genocide and a statement of genocidal intent against European South Africans and Europeans as a whole. The consequences could entail brutal ethnic civil war in South Africa (a refutation of the "rainbow nation"), international economic sanctions and condemnation, mass emigration, significant economic disruption (especially in the region) or even collapse and increasing European ethnocentrism worldwide. An African town with 3000 residents is generally not perceived to be a significant threat to the global system, therefore destroying it would be more trouble than it's worth (at least for now). If the Oranians didn't believe in the long-term viability of their project, they wouldn't be doing it.
@@smoothcritical1 fair enough. Then again, I'm not really "white" and a Zulu is not really "black". Race is a problematic concept. How much "Euopeaness" is required to be "white"? Most of us have West African (i.e. "black") ancestry. That is why I prefer the concept of "culture", because being an Afrikaner is far more than just looking the part.
@@drjacovanniekerk How much "Euopeaness" is required to be "white"? There is no specific percentage. In most cases you can tell by looking at someone. Someone with 7/8 100% genetically European great-grandparents is usually virtually indistinguishable from anyone else in that group. "Race is a problematic concept." The South African government doesn't seem to think so. Despite many or most Oranians having some non-European ancestry, they see Oranians as white and they discriminate against South Africans with predominate European ancestry via "affirmative action". "being an Afrikaner is far more than just looking the part." I'm sure it is. Though if you don't look the part as well, good luck getting approval to live in Orania.
"Allowing" Orania to exist is the same as "allowing" every other cultural group to exist. We believe that every people and every culture has a right to exist. Therefore I would argue that we are not "allowed" to exist, but rather that we do exist and will keep on existing whether others accept it or not.
Netjiese antwoord. God sal voorsien.
Ek gaan gereeld Oranja toe en geniet dit baie, ons sien julle weer Desember maand. 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Ik heb het eerder gezegd ik ken geen anderen nieuwslezer die zo RELAXED werkt ...hou die winkels dicht op zondag...... DANK JE WEL ik groet u Andrè Nederland
@@andrevanbeckhoven903 Ek stem, hou die winkels toe op Sondag en die kettingwinkel groepe uit.
Thanks for the subtitles
Baie dankie hiervoor, en vir die pragmatiese antwoord op die Sondag vraag. Baie van ons wat in ander dele van Suid Afrika bly, het gewoond geraak aan die sekulere verval van die samelewing, waar besighede, selfs drankwinkels, op Sondae handel dryf. Ons het vergeet dat onse Here op die sewende dag gerus het, en sodoende die gedragspatroon vir werk en rus vir ons gegee het. Ook dat ons God aanbidding vereis, en dat die minste wat ons kan doen, is om een dag per week aan die Here toe te wy, en dit te gebruik om aan Hom ere te gee en Hom te aanbid.
Orania is op die regte pad wat geestelike leiding betref. Op my onlangse besoek, was my ervaaring asof ek weer terug was in die 1980s. Ek het ook een van die eredienste bygewoon, en die suiwere bybel onderrig baie geniet.
Brilliant love It .
Wees parraat!!!!!!
Dankie vir die antwoord
As ek so na mense luister wonder ek hoe die voortrekkers aan die trek gekom het. Orania is n vryheidsbesluit nie n rustige aftrede nie. Jy glo en werk daaraan. Ons afrikaners het saf geword
Wonderlike plek
Moet op mense en prinse nie vertrou nie!!!!!!
Wees PARAAT!!!!!!
Engelse onderskrifte is tot voordeel van intl'e kykers. Is belangrik. Netjies.
Ek dink n vraag wat baie jong mense het is, is dit moontlik om n lewe daar te begin as jy nie finansieel goed af is nie. Sal jy jou lewe kan los en Orania toe trek, en eintlik n goeie lewe daar kan bou, en nie in armoede lewe nie?
As mens jou huis sou verkoop in Orania, kry jy die bedrag in Ora of Rand?
@@DaneleaBeyers Rand.
Hulle gaan wag dat julle n stad word en goeie skole en werke bied voor hulle gaan oorvat. Tans is die plek nog te klein.
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Sê eers vir ons wie is "hulle" en ten tweede hoe langer "hulle" wag hoe moeilikker gaan dit wees om 'n stad net oor te vat, dit sal nie gebeur nie.
@@nedor64Hmmmm…ek dink aan die kleur swart.
Ek stem hou die besighede toe op Sondag en die kettingwinkel groepe uit. Werk en besigheid vir eie mense.
*beëindig
Wouldn't it have been smarter to split the land between white and black South Africans at the end of apartheid? So that both form their own independent countries where they can live on their own? Would probably have been a lot safer.
That was what Dr Verwoerd planned: a homeland for each tribe. So that every tribe/ culture can govern themselves and speak their own language. . It was a brilliant plan but the world screamed: Apartheid, No to Apartheid! Today, South Africa is a mess.
@@anna-mariedupreez542 this will still happen eventually. There is no other way.
@@anna-mariedupreez542 Spot on... He wanted a system closer to the American system with senators, representation, etc. Vorster's people didn't like the idea of giving that much power to other groups of people... and well, let's just say that Verwoerd's assassination was very convenient for their agenda. His briefcase containing the speech was also never recovered, but let me rather leave it there...
Why does the global system allow Orania to exist?
Speculation:
Destroying Orania would require an unprovoked government military attack, which would be recognised as a genocide and a statement of genocidal intent against European South Africans and Europeans as a whole.
The consequences could entail brutal ethnic civil war in South Africa (a refutation of the "rainbow nation"), international economic sanctions and condemnation, mass emigration, significant economic disruption (especially in the region) or even collapse and increasing European ethnocentrism worldwide.
An African town with 3000 residents is generally not perceived to be a significant threat to the global system, therefore destroying it would be more trouble than it's worth (at least for now).
If the Oranians didn't believe in the long-term viability of their project, they wouldn't be doing it.
...just one correction: As a proud Afrikaner, I don't consider myself "European". As the 13th generation on this continent, I am African.
@@drjacovanniekerk That's fine but I am referring to genetics, without using the term white.
@@smoothcritical1 fair enough. Then again, I'm not really "white" and a Zulu is not really "black". Race is a problematic concept. How much "Euopeaness" is required to be "white"? Most of us have West African (i.e. "black") ancestry. That is why I prefer the concept of "culture", because being an Afrikaner is far more than just looking the part.
@@drjacovanniekerk How much "Euopeaness" is required to be "white"?
There is no specific percentage. In most cases you can tell by looking at someone. Someone with 7/8 100% genetically European great-grandparents is usually virtually indistinguishable from anyone else in that group.
"Race is a problematic concept."
The South African government doesn't seem to think so. Despite many or most Oranians having some non-European ancestry, they see Oranians as white and they discriminate against South Africans with predominate European ancestry via "affirmative action".
"being an Afrikaner is far more than just looking the part."
I'm sure it is. Though if you don't look the part as well, good luck getting approval to live in Orania.
"Allowing" Orania to exist is the same as "allowing" every other cultural group to exist. We believe that every people and every culture has a right to exist. Therefore I would argue that we are not "allowed" to exist, but rather that we do exist and will keep on existing whether others accept it or not.