I've seen those things running brand new off the sales lot, they ALWAYS pour black smoke as soon as you put them under a load. That thing is DIALED in PERFECT! Thing runs better than factory!
I heard an interesting comment on the C&C Equipment channel regarding starting new engines. They say run the engine at high idle for at least 30 minutes on first startup. Check out his latest on rebuilding a John Deere 4 cylinder diesel and first start.
Unfortunately that's what most 20something trucks look like around here! Salt is literally poured into the roads we drive on 3 or 4 months a year to keep ice\snow off roads. It's really sad what it does to our vehicles up here! 😭🤬🤬🥶
My 8N was upgraded with a 6 cyl 226 fl head Ford engine by a guy named Glover in Illinois. When I bought it I was told it had a stuck valve. We got it running and the engine was low power and stumbled a lot. I found another engine online for cheap and bought it. In the mean time I was bushhogging my Mom's set aside field and the engine coughed and blew a huge wad of pink fiberglass insulation out of the muffler. Nope it wasn't a glass pack it was a mouse nest. It was running fine. As I went back out to mow I heard something I had never heard from the tractor. The governor kicked in and the engine revved up. Right after that I was mowing 6 foot high grass and 12 foot diameter wild roses like they weren't there. The spare engine is in the garage just waiting. The tractor was made about 1950. The original engine numbers are of course gone so hard to tell the year. It is at least 72 years old. Never hurts to have a cheap spare handy.
At time stamp 4:56, I say it's a good engine. Plastic coupler blows my mind! Shouldn't be surprised though, I remember 70s & 80s era Oldsmobile engines had nylon timing gears.
24:54 In my opinion when the engine go backwards a little bit after shutting down is that it has oil in the right temperature and viscosity and it's just a little that it turns back
Well I guess I wasn't the only one under the impression it was a 4bt. That plastic drive coupler must be made from something seriously special to hold up in that application. Thanks for the upload.
Those moments where Rich repeats something right after Kevin or Kevin repeats something right after Rich 😂😂😂😂😂 Goes to show how much they feed off one another and their great chemistry/friendship I knew from the first time Kevin was on the channel that he’d be a cool dude
I think its great that Kevin will, and very capably can, continue the videography for Rich. And never fails to mention the details that he finds important just as Rich would. Fair play to you, Kevin, and thank you = )
I did a break-in flight on an IO-540 Piper Navajo engine, and it was 'punish that thing for 2 solid hours'. I had an instruction sheet to follow with power and rpm settings, and I had never worked that thing so hard, before or ever again!
Yes do the fiat build. Also, I loved seeing Kevin break from his normal frugal build (completely understandable as he’s a practical working man) build and go all out to include paint!
The need to stagger ring gaps is an old wife's tale. Rings in a 4 cycle engine move/rotate ALL THE TIME, that's why it is needed to pin the rings in in a 2 cycle engine to keep the ring from snagging a port and breaking the ring.
I've always wondered about that, but had trouble getting actual info on the subject. but you're right the little tabs in two strokes piston grooves do give an answer !
But if you lined them up perfectly when the motor is new it could very well let oil up by the rings and cause carbon buildup that pinched the ring stopping it from rotating.
The JCB skidsteers are a great design. But so many people are scared of the 1 arm holding the headstock breaking as every other skidsteer has 2 arms. But they are forgetting telehandlers have been around for decades and always had a single telescopic arm
@@HootMaRoot But skidsteers are renowned to be somewhat unstable and combining it with a telehandeler the rear counterweight must be massive and make it scary going uphill with no load..
@@TheBibliofilus you'd think that, but the extendable boom is extra weight on the axles as well, the counterweight isn't that much heavier and it's a very stable machine. Tracked more than wheeled obviously
@@TheBibliofilusI’ve ran about every brand of skid there is and for the most part they are all actually really stable, normally when an accident happens it’s the operator. They try their best to keep the most weight low and centered. Very cool machine in my opinion I’d love to try one out.
there should be a mark on the rear of the pump housing to mark the # 1 Cylinder if you time it correctly the key way will line up with the mark, Depending on what type of cold start you have you need to set timing in the run mode not cold start
Every bit as good as any new one it's size. Well worth the effort. How about a walk around of that sweet little Cockshutt? Or that dinky off road dumper? Best regards from Indiana, USA.
They make a plastic single blade razor for removing body emblems on automotive painted surfaces that you can use to remove plastigage (no "u" in machine tool "gage" measuring instruments). But the thumbnail method method works too, in concert with some lacquer thinner.
Tell Kevin he’s sounding too much like an engineer. Complaining about how bad it could be before even tearing into it. Lmao! My prediction is it’s reworkable. lol!
Forgot what I was working on, but I remember they were big bolts and the spec was 400nm plus 180 degrees. Boss gave me a 3/4 inch impact and said just give her all of it until it stops turning.
Well, the turn over until it blocks method of TDC finding is well known for decades... Seen that on high performance engines a lot of times, so it's approved I think... For the pump dial in, you can use a piece of like, tig welding rod and unscrew the tip of your dial indicator... On some engines it's the only way to get your gadge in if you don't want to disassemble like an alternator and some brackets. Most of the time you can attach the arm of it somewhere on the engine...
Always good to see you both working together Even if the end result looks like a glazed cherry on a turd pie 😂😂😂 The definition of friendship is to be able to disagree and still be able to work together without antagonism or anger Well done guys 👍
I heard an interesting comment on the C&C Equipment channel regarding starting new engines. They say run the engine at high idle for at least 30 minutes on first startup. Check out his latest on rebuilding a John Deere 4 cylinder diesel and first start.
Honestly I laughed when you fellas first thought it was a 4BT. I was a tech at a Case IH dealer as those skid steers were just coming out of warranty. Those engines were either good, or generally problematic. They weren't my favourite thing that's for sure.
Little tip I found from snowball engineering. If you pick something up on the forks like that with a chain, put a clamp on the end of the fork, so if the chain were to slide as it did, it would hit that clamp before it slid off the end of the forks. Takes like 30 seconds but saves a lot of peace of mind, knowing it won’t slide off the end of the forks.
I did that once and the clamp snapped in half, a Jorgensen c clamp and the Bessie tradesman fell off the other side. Now I rap the fork on both sides or use a short chain warped around the top middle of a fork. Takes one minute and I have never lost anything sense. Even when the forks bleed down on the tilt.
crank bearings are round. the direction doesnt matter {so long as the oil holes line up}. thrust bearings dont have the tab because the tab is only there to stop the bearing from sliding out.
Now the question is are you guys gonna rebuilt the Donor, so you have a bolt in replacement. I heard you found a Crank for 1400 ish. Kevin you need to keep the economy moving...... Joking OFC love all the content..
The plastic Lovejoy coupler survives because the flywheel smooths out the torque pulsations from the engine. Not because American plastic is superior to Chinese. It wouldn't last a millisecond in between crank and flywheel.
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Kevin is a likable character. Really enjoy seeing equipment updates from him
Kevins pickup is every farmer pickup I've ever met !!!!!
Kevin's pickup is like no pickup I have ever seen in my 79 years on planet earth! "Cause I've never been north of the M-D Line.
Great lakes salt doing its finest work!
@@persistentwind Rust belt life where you get to watch a 50K pickup truck turn to worthless junk in under 15 years
@@mattmopar440 I had a 2016 Silverado with a plated (poorly as usual) frame at work last week
@@mattmopar440 oof more like 8
I could listen to kevin and rich talk about paint drying, you guys have great chemistry for making content.
Yes please to a video on the fiat project!
I've seen those things running brand new off the sales lot, they ALWAYS pour black smoke as soon as you put them under a load. That thing is DIALED in PERFECT! Thing runs better than factory!
Yep, better than factory.
I heard an interesting comment on the C&C Equipment channel regarding starting new engines. They say run the engine at high idle for at least 30 minutes on first startup. Check out his latest on rebuilding a John Deere 4 cylinder diesel and first start.
i'm only 30 minutes into this episode and so far its a great representation for 2 chefs in the kitchen lol
Minus the constant swearing.
There's Kevin!
Best most honest real pickup I've seen in a while. Kevin is the man. Rust means it's working, not sitting.
I knew Kevin would never be able to sleep again if he didn’t find that piece of plastigauge that fell into the motor! 🤣
Let's all just take a moment to appreciate how gone that truck bed is
Welcome to the salt belt
Unfortunately that's what most 20something trucks look like around here! Salt is literally poured into the roads we drive on 3 or 4 months a year to keep ice\snow off roads. It's really sad what it does to our vehicles up here! 😭🤬🤬🥶
Ontario classic stupid salt on he roads. For 5 months of the year
It held a 800lb Cummins lol
Great job Kevin, o and Rich for holding the camera and moral support to your local farmer ☺
Goedzo! Kevin is the best! Thanks y'all greetings from the Netherlands
kevin is every farmer i know lol. love these videos with him.
Always love the Kevin videos, it’s hilarious when you razz him about stuff 😂
I love these videos with Kevin.
Your friendship is some thing to envy and enjoy watching.
Well done guys!
I enjoy watching you guys work on farm stuff...reminds me of growing up...except our shop was dirtier.
Love the video. Show more of Kevin jobs and bit of his farm
My 8N was upgraded with a 6 cyl 226 fl head Ford engine by a guy named Glover in Illinois. When I bought it I was told it had a stuck valve. We got it running and the engine was low power and stumbled a lot. I found another engine online for cheap and bought it.
In the mean time I was bushhogging my Mom's set aside field and the engine coughed and blew a huge wad of pink fiberglass insulation out of the muffler. Nope it wasn't a glass pack it was a mouse nest. It was running fine.
As I went back out to mow I heard something I had never heard from the tractor. The governor kicked in and the engine revved up. Right after that I was mowing 6 foot high grass and 12 foot diameter wild roses like they weren't there.
The spare engine is in the garage just waiting. The tractor was made about 1950. The original engine numbers are of course gone so hard to tell the year. It is at least 72 years old. Never hurts to have a cheap spare handy.
Kevin your a star the intricate detail of the torque settings and the final part of it all good old coat of paint just finishes it off
Industrial Fabrication, makers of Minecat in Sudbury, use the same motor. They keep a fair stock.
Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.
Excellent mechanical work you guys! Great teamwork also! Congratulations!
I love the HD channel. Heavy duty is a good way to go plus, you guys are deep in it. Very hard-core.
At time stamp 4:56, I say it's a good engine. Plastic coupler blows my mind! Shouldn't be surprised though, I remember 70s & 80s era Oldsmobile engines had nylon timing gears.
Whoop whoop - this looks like a great episode. Love from the Manchester, UK
24:54 In my opinion when the engine go backwards a little bit after shutting down is that it has oil in the right temperature and viscosity and it's just a little that it turns back
i love when Kevin explains stuff to the camera, love these episodes, keep up the great work
Came for the rebuild 👍 stayed for the banter 😂
You two could be watching paint dry and I'd still watch for the banter 👌
Love the Kevin episodes! Thanks for posting!
Hurray for Kevin ! Glad you got your machine up and running better than ever.
Great job, guys !😎👍
Well I guess I wasn't the only one under the impression it was a 4bt. That plastic drive coupler must be made from something seriously special to hold up in that application. Thanks for the upload.
Those moments where Rich repeats something right after Kevin or Kevin repeats something right after Rich 😂😂😂😂😂
Goes to show how much they feed off one another and their great chemistry/friendship
I knew from the first time Kevin was on the channel that he’d be a cool dude
I think its great that Kevin will, and very capably can, continue the videography for Rich. And never fails to mention the details that he finds important just as Rich would. Fair play to you, Kevin, and thank you = )
I freakin' love episodes with Kevin. Thank you guys for the awesome content, can't wait for the next one.
The crankshaft doesn't technically exist until you open the block. Therefore it cannot be good or bad.
good to watch again and the humor excellent
I did a break-in flight on an IO-540 Piper Navajo engine, and it was 'punish that thing for 2 solid hours'. I had an instruction sheet to follow with power and rpm settings, and I had never worked that thing so hard, before or ever again!
Great video and work Kevin/Rich!! Kevin looked like the Terminator w/ sunglasses & spicky hair there at the end. Keep up the good work.
cool to hear a "goedzo" inbetween the banter. had to rewind to be sure haha!
More of Kevins weird stuff!
😂 greetings from Sweden
Well, I learned a little more about engine timing. Thanks!
Yes do the fiat build. Also, I loved seeing Kevin break from his normal frugal build (completely understandable as he’s a practical working man) build and go all out to include paint!
Rich always nice to see Kevin he,s gold ,oh and nice camera work Rich
Kym
Adelaide
Goedzo Kevin and Rich!
The need to stagger ring gaps is an old wife's tale. Rings in a 4 cycle engine move/rotate ALL THE TIME, that's why it is needed to pin the rings in in a 2 cycle engine to keep the ring from snagging a port and breaking the ring.
I've always wondered about that, but had trouble getting actual info on the subject. but you're right the little tabs in two strokes piston grooves do give an answer !
But if you lined them up perfectly when the motor is new it could very well let oil up by the rings and cause carbon buildup that pinched the ring stopping it from rotating.
@fastinradfordable The rings turn as the engine is running that's why it doesn't really matter how the rings are orientated
I have a complete rebuilt 445 iveco for a case 430 $8,000. A 3.9 cummins has same mounting holes for tandem pump minimal adaptation needed
Good buy on the motor
Yes would enjoy the fiat build. Always enjoy to see what Kevin is up too. Great video.
That JCB is interesting. Never seen anything like it.
The JCB skidsteers are a great design. But so many people are scared of the 1 arm holding the headstock breaking as every other skidsteer has 2 arms. But they are forgetting telehandlers have been around for decades and always had a single telescopic arm
It's called a teleskid, very versatile machine
@@HootMaRoot But skidsteers are renowned to be somewhat unstable and combining it with a telehandeler the rear counterweight must be massive and make it scary going uphill with no load..
@@TheBibliofilus you'd think that, but the extendable boom is extra weight on the axles as well, the counterweight isn't that much heavier and it's a very stable machine. Tracked more than wheeled obviously
@@TheBibliofilusI’ve ran about every brand of skid there is and for the most part they are all actually really stable, normally when an accident happens it’s the operator. They try their best to keep the most weight low and centered. Very cool machine in my opinion I’d love to try one out.
Love when Kevin’s in the video 👌🏻🤘🏼🤘🏼
kevins bed is looking Premium!
I would have really looked at that plastic coupler looks good
there should be a mark on the rear of the pump housing to mark the # 1 Cylinder if you time it correctly the key way will line up with the mark, Depending on what type of cold start you have you need to set timing in the run mode not cold start
awesome video! love the silver and red fiats too there is a guy i know in your neck of the woods who sells parts for those import tractor parts
Every bit as good as any new one it's size. Well worth the effort. How about a walk around of that sweet little Cockshutt? Or that dinky off road dumper?
Best regards from Indiana, USA.
what kinda FIAT you have split apart?
ofcourse we would like to see a video on FIAT tractor
definitly do the fiat
Great you found parts.
They make a plastic single blade razor for removing body emblems on automotive painted surfaces that you can use to remove plastigage (no "u" in machine tool "gage" measuring instruments). But the thumbnail method method works too, in concert with some lacquer thinner.
Congrats !!! wanta see one with 2 Harbor Freight V twin engine connected together to make the skid steer work =) or a Honda K24 engine =P
Tell Kevin he’s sounding too much like an engineer. Complaining about how bad it could be before even tearing into it. Lmao! My prediction is it’s reworkable. lol!
FIAT tractor? Heck yeah!
Kevin’s great - hope he is a channel partner
Thanks guys
2 guys chatting - that’s it!!
Goed zo. Groetjes uit Holland 👍
Forgot what I was working on, but I remember they were big bolts and the spec was 400nm plus 180 degrees. Boss gave me a 3/4 inch impact and said just give her all of it until it stops turning.
I'm about 100miles south of you in the states, my gmt900 frame rails were shot before my bed got that bad. Now some guy in NY is driving it.
Goed zo! 🇳🇱🎉🎉 lets get to that Italian Fiat thing 😊 great work on the Case
The engine looks good from the outside, but we've all town down engines with surprises inside.
one good video, great info and love the humor from you two
Well, the turn over until it blocks method of TDC finding is well known for decades... Seen that on high performance engines a lot of times, so it's approved I think...
For the pump dial in, you can use a piece of like, tig welding rod and unscrew the tip of your dial indicator... On some engines it's the only way to get your gadge in if you don't want to disassemble like an alternator and some brackets. Most of the time you can attach the arm of it somewhere on the engine...
You two weeners,, are perfect example of a couple of ,"HAM AND EGGERS " ( Mechanical Frick and Frackers ) funny and entertaining..😅💰💸💸🤓💣💥
I’ve had to repair a couple Bobcat e35 pump couplers it’s a plastic gear bolted to the flywheel and a metal gear bolted on the pump
Always good to see you both working together
Even if the end result looks like a glazed cherry on a turd pie 😂😂😂
The definition of friendship is to be able to disagree and still be able to work together without antagonism or anger
Well done guys 👍
Commenting at 5:00 into the video before I've seen anything. I say the motor is good.
The 4bt Cummins engine you took the engine crank out of military engine
That salt is just brutal. I live in a no-salt area and we just don't see vehicles disappear like that.
kevin is just a cool guy!!!!
Kevin is the man
Great video. Love Kevin
As a guess, I'd say it's salvageable, aside from doing any diag, side note: super glue duct tape and shop towels make a great suture fyi haha
Goed zo stelletje Dutchies👌👍🇨🇦🇳🇱
I heard an interesting comment on the C&C Equipment channel regarding starting new engines. They say run the engine at high idle for at least 30 minutes on first startup. Check out his latest on rebuilding a John Deere 4 cylinder diesel and first start.
Honestly I laughed when you fellas first thought it was a 4BT. I was a tech at a Case IH dealer as those skid steers were just coming out of warranty. Those engines were either good, or generally problematic. They weren't my favourite thing that's for sure.
Goed zo! Nice to hear some dutch.
Little tip I found from snowball engineering. If you pick something up on the forks like that with a chain, put a clamp on the end of the fork, so if the chain were to slide as it did, it would hit that clamp before it slid off the end of the forks. Takes like 30 seconds but saves a lot of peace of mind, knowing it won’t slide off the end of the forks.
Two clamps. One on each side of the chain. Zero slippage.
I did that once and the clamp snapped in half, a Jorgensen c clamp and the Bessie tradesman fell off the other side. Now I rap the fork on both sides or use a short chain warped around the top middle of a fork. Takes one minute and I have never lost anything sense. Even when the forks bleed down on the tilt.
crank bearings are round. the direction doesnt matter {so long as the oil holes line up}. thrust bearings dont have the tab because the tab is only there to stop the bearing from sliding out.
Adding a turbo might require a different injection pump with a boost compensator and connection to the intake manifold to run correctly
It'll be just fine.... a runner for sure
Definitely want to see the Fiat build! We have a mint 50-50 Allis Chalmers on the farm with probably the same engine.
I ran a 4bt with no water pump for a 12 hour sidewalk plow shift. The thing neverissed a beat(probably helps it was -20 out"
Now the question is are you guys gonna rebuilt the Donor, so you have a bolt in replacement. I heard you found a Crank for 1400 ish. Kevin you need to keep the economy moving...... Joking OFC love all the content..
Painted that engine lol, looks like the skid steer could use a paint job too.
Goedzo!👌😄
Good! I wasn't the only one that heard that. 😁
The plastic Lovejoy coupler survives because the flywheel smooths out the torque pulsations from the engine. Not because American plastic is superior to Chinese. It wouldn't last a millisecond in between crank and flywheel.
Hi Rich Did I see you at Ramstein in Dublin yesterday 🤔
Great video. What was that mini rock truck Kevin was loading at the end?
Ready for a new project
Helemaal goed zo :P
I´d bet it is a good buy
Good buy!
Another banger.
A part number change could come from a heat treatment difference?