Trans health care financed by the nhs should only be mental health care - any physical interventions are cosmetic and, as per nose jobs, boob jobs etc should be financed by those seeking them, and subject to appropriate safe guarding. The issue where a woman has a physical ailment which is treated by a physical intervention is not the same as a man or woman wanting coametic surgery to appear (ish) like the opposite sex
I had a contretemps with the Head of Security at my local hospital. She said “woman: adult human female” was a hate crime, and I disagreed. I’m pleased to say the police agreed with me.
@@patavinity1262 I posted some gender critical stickers. I received an ASBO from the police for that but could tell they were only doing their job; they really didn’t want to bother me. Ditto the security guard at the hospital interview; he looked very unhappy at being there. The Head of Radiotherapy seemed to not fully be aware of what was really going on, as the Head of Security kept calling it a hate crime, which seemed to perplex her. I’ve promised to behave at the hospital so I can continue my cancer treatment; I may need palliative care sooner than I thought. I hope to speak at the Let Women Speak rally in Exeter on Saturday. I have to think very carefully if I go into too much detail. I really have nowhere else to turn. The entire NHS Trust of the region is captured.
In Finland, the healthcare system is in a bit of a crisis and cancer patients sometimes have to wait for treatments. I heard that a cancer patient had to wait the entire day, and didn't get their appointment, because the urgent care patients were a priority. PT comes across like an entitled rich kid who's never had to deal with normal people problems.
I was with a friend in the States when his cancer treatment took almost all day, various staff shortages, pharma issues, as they put the chemo that's administered intravenously together on the day. The obsessions of the "trans" cult does impact the entire health care system in all Western countries. The frequency of emergencies for post op cultists does monopolize the doctors, the resources &etc. Then they go on with the suicide narrative and take more of their attention.
Ok, serious response. I've gone through the mental healthcare mill from ages 18-30, at 35 now. And from personal experience, I can tell you that there is RIGHTFULLY a lot of personal responsibility placed on the person seeking out the treatment. Even the best mental health professionals are really just feeling things out in the dark and have to assume you're sharing everything in good faith. And for a lot of people with these mental health issues, that's a lot to ask from them. Even if it's rightful that they carry this responsibility. Being reasonable, honest (with yourself and the healthcare professional), clear, responsible, etc. are both the thing you struggle with the most, and yet also what's being asked of you in the moment. It's incredibly difficult. There is no scan that can just 'see' what's wrong, they have to go by your answers. You know this, they know this. It's an incredibly difficult field to navigate for all parties involved. Transexualism takes all of that one step further. Misdiagnosis and the wrong treatment can turn the aforementioned difficult-to-navigate field into a minefield, that can cause potentially permanent, life-altering, life-threatening, irreversible damage to a patient's body. And here Philosophy Tube is practically demanding that transexual healthcare should involve handing the keys of a monster truck to the patient, to traverse that minefield.
That's exactly what this person's advocating regardless of the potential outcomes for what could be a temporary mental blip. 89% of disphoric kids in the UK not accessing blockers remained their sex whereas 93% who took blockers graduated to X sex hormones. It's why they did their reviews and are tightening up access. The trans surgeon who did Jazz Jennings surgery stated kids going from blockers to X sex hormones then surgery will NEVER experience orgasm due to a lack of 'material' to fashion a new 'part' due directly to sexual immaturity. This person is incorrect claiming there's a 'wrong' puberty. Such kids don't have a puberty and we still don't know the long term potential damage from that. There's far more to it than extra hair. Yet how often do teen trans kids attack teen detransitioners who used the 'informed consent' model saying 'getting it wrong was your fault'. Their fault for not fathoming the gravity of irreversible hormones, surgery and high complication rates? The lack of US regulation is always to help business profiteer. I haven't forgotten the controversy via a leaked video of a US hospital administrator telling an auditorium full of staff how lucrative trans 'healthcare' would be for the hospital. That's behind a kid handed a prescription for X sex hormomes after one GP visit. That's what this person is demanding which is the root of it all. More millenials on raised to demand and expect to get what they demand who will use whatever label they can to blackmail us with. That being any label other than straight white man. We are witnessing another example of a spoilt entitled brat who thinks no shouldn't exist for them.
Just like those doctors they're already "Safe" so whomever comes after they don't matter. They'll vanish when it finally comes out they should have been MUCH more careful and observant.
Hey all! Occasionally I'm going to be uploading some of the videos I made on my second channel while this channel was dedicated solely to streaming. I figure it's best to consolidate my content. I agonised for a while about whether to rerecord this video for the sake of authorial continuity with my current content. However, in this case I was quite happy with how this video turned out, and also I have a bit of a cold, so getting out of a recording session was a very appealing notion. As I work on moving all my content to this channel, I will probably decide on a case-by-case basis whether to re-record the content or just reupload it. Either way, my plan is to use the breaks that reuploading this content affords me so that I can work on videos that might take more than one week, so that I can make sure I continue to hit my weekly upload schedule even if I might have bigger plans for certain videos going forward. Hope you all enjoy!
My sister had a nose job that went poorly and needed a revision. She was sure she’d feel so much better about herself, but unsurprisingly it did not. It only made it hard for her to breathe. She was extremely mentally ill and has since committed suicide. So these people don’t even want to go there with me.
Is difficulty breathing a common side effect of nose jobs? I wasn't aware of that, but now that you've pointed it out, it seems plausible. Was sister made aware of this beforehand? I'm disappointed no one's highlighted this before. I guess the public just assumes that women who get nose jobs are superficial idiots who'd regret for superficial reasons, like it not looking right.
I don’t know why you don’t go to law school, you obviously have a vocation to it. And then you could use that training to represent detransitioners suing their doctors.
I really appreciate your videos because they make it bearable to sit through these pro-trans videos. I'm interested in what people like PT have to say but it's just too cringe without your commentary pointing out the stupidity.
I tried to watch through it at the time and couldn't fathom how anybody can enjoy or learn anything whatsoever from his 'philosophy' videos. His popularity is baffling.
@@erinsymone1645 I legit do not know if PT is AGP or a gender dysphoria situation where they're just too pretentious to actually say they had it. They're bisexual and could be gay, really into theater... I just could really see it either way. Council of G33ks, for instance, is *textbook* AGP: former straight man, has a female partner and a child then comes out as trans (while saying no gender dysphoria...) with a secondary YT channel displaying and reviewing their sex toys...now in a polyamorous relationship... also tweets naked pictures of them "presenting female" and bound and gagged. (Has OFs of course). My favorite CoG story was they shared a DM where someone solicited them for sex and they said "I'm offended, I don't even hint I do stuff like this." It's like... a few days ago you just showed a picture of yourself naked bound and gagged, maybe someone got a hint?
@@dante6985if you look at some of the tweets PT likes, PT is definitely AGP. Also, by Blanchard’s theory, almost all bisexuals are “pseudo-bisexuals”-they are attracted to the idea of “having sex like a woman with a man”, but they are not actually attracted to men. Contrapoints also used to be a pseudo-bisexual, before realizing he wasn’t actually attracted to men.
@@StormBringer5 Ah. Thanks. Not surprised in the least, just can see it both ways with some cases (ie does seem like a narcissist where AGP makes most sense but does seem to have a lot of surgeries and whatnot ive noted more in gender dys type) . I was blocked so I wouldn't know about the tweets...
@@erinsymone1645Yeah it's 100% their way, then there's a weirdness with them where you can tell they're "fashion" is like something their mother would or has worn. AGP bimbos are more honest imo become woman to become the stereotype completely instead of this skirting the line acting like they're "normal"
He really does come across as selfish and unaware, we all know NHS waiting times are off the charts at the moment. It took me 10 months from being referred after a lengthy hospitalisation to getting an introductory appointment with gynaecology and that was a cancellation appointment which got me seen much sooner. Using the example of women with uterine pain problems being referred for a hysterectomy by the GP is also disingenuous and shows how little he understands the trials of womanhood. It is notoriously difficult for women of child bearing age to get hysterectomies even when they are as a treatment for debilitating gynaecological pain and surely they should be given priority over women wanting hysterectomies as a result of mental illness.
Funny thing is literally right now I'm having issues with the NHS. As I mentioned in my main comment, I've got a cold. It's probably nothing but my tonsils are really swollen in a way I've never experienced before, so I just wanted a quick message from the doctor to confirm it's nothing to worry about, but the site where they take online questions for the doctor is always at capacity such that they can't take any more messages Definitely stand by what I said here about how the quality of public services should be a standard that government revenue is obligated to meet, rather than the standard being determined by government revenue
My breast scans were twice cancelled due to the breast care nurse having Covid. I was diagnosed with breast cancer two days after the Coronation. A week after I finally had a scan, they found two tumours, one NST, the other rare. My mastectomy took place on 30 August, by which time one tumour had grown from the size of a walnut to a lime. I’ve just learned it has metastasised. If the delays hadn’t first made the diagnosis late, and the operation later than was hoped, the cancer may have not metastasised. To hear that horrible man angry at not getting instant treatment makes my blood boil.
@@maschaorsomethingWhy is this your unempathetic response to someone's cancer diagnosis? No one was talking about the metaphysical belief system that qualifies whether the initial commenter thinks philosophytube is valid as a person or woman, haven't you heard of the medical principals of priority in situations such as triage? Which one is more important- someone who is going to die without medical treatment because of a material and physical pathology outside of thier control or someone who is experiencing emotional distress and may be at higher risk of suicide and may or may not benefit from medicalization, but is terrified of thier diminishing options if they don't transition as quickly as possible now that they have a name for thier feelings- which may be comorbid with a number of other diagnosis including anxiety and childhood trauma that may now no longer be considered medically important aspects of thier mental healthcare-? Cancer is killing the above commenter, Gender dysphoria made this rich person who is... from a rather posh class background and had access to private healthcare uncomfortable emotionally for several months- these things aren't the same. It's benevolent transphobia to assume Abigail, a literal rich person is awktually very very oppressed and somehow a magical unicorn in the gameified matrix of oppression where we trans away the metoo allegations of some of these high-profile TRAs, transaway the racism and the misogyny- but it doesn't work like that. Transpersons aren't magical unicorns and you can't protect yourself from being a bad or morally incorrect person by assuming that awktually all moral good revolves around your personal metaphysics- that's a religious belief, not the basis for the universalism necessary within human rights law.
I'm just working out the nuance in your argument 10 minutes in about black women's childbirth and postpartum mortality being higher. The classical argument is that most women have a history of their pain not being taken seriously, but that black women in particular have been subjected to explicit racism in early gynecology and women's medical history. I'd argue the discrimination here doesn't extend from underfunding but a history of devaluing black women's pain during and after labour. This is a point against PT's general philosophy on gender, as the whole reason for this mortality rate is deeply sex-based.
39:45 I’ve seen gender dysphoria be compared to the concept of emasculation, as in when a man feels his masculinity has been threatened. That makes perfect sense, both gender dysphoria and emasculation result from people attaching their self-worth to sexist, regressive gender roles. It’s unhealthy and pretty irrational if you ask me.
But that's not accurate. Autogynephiles are in romantic and sexual love with their erotic target location error self. Dysphoria is the interruption of that love. Male masculinity is nowhere near that. Masculinity is essentially ego. Agp is everything to these men
@@melan.cholia To be trans means you don't identify with the societal gender that you've been assigned to. If a woman decides she likes wearing skirts, she's not this incredible misogynistic sexist who needs to man up against gender roles or anything. Men who want beards and muscles aren't misandrists either, unless they shame other men. Some trans women like wearing makeup, and some really don't. There are trans men who really badly want to go to the gym, and there are those who will still wear pink or put nail polish and flowers on; they don't believe that their gender is tied to gender expression or biological gender. It's a complicated field of research.
that dude is such an insufferable whiner. there are people with real problems who have to wait too, why should his cosmetic procedures take precedence or soak up any resources? it's crazy
Just want to commend you on how well structured this video. While I enjoy your streams this format of (relatively) concisely presenting the substanttive points works incredibly well. I know it takes time and effort but I've really noticed the overall quality of your content improve over time. You may not have flashy production, but this a coherent, well argued and tightly edited presentation that serves as a robust and punchy critique. Thank you.
"Trans healthcare" consists exclusively of cosmetic procedures. Not looking the way you feel you ought to does not constitute medical need. Nor should blackmailing people with suicide threats, favourite tactic of "trans rights" advocates, be taken seriously by grownups.
@amyscarlett5502 "Give me free plastic surgery or i will kill myself" is emotional blackmail in its purest and most shameless form. Let's put aside the self reports of suicidal ideation that masquerade as statistics and think this through... if people are indeed feeling suicidal, then cosmetic surgery is not going to solve their underlying issues, certainly not in any lasting or substantial way. The narrative that "trans healthcare saves lives" is a pernicious lie... it puts people on a path of lifelong medical dependency that they come to believe is "necessary" for their "identity" to be perceived as "authentic" when in fact they have retreated more deeply into the delusion that causes their distress in the first place. We ought to look at the mental wellbeing of people who have actually "transitioned" and judge whether giving mastectomies and testosterone to teenaged girls is an appropriate mental health intervention.
And not to forget some kinds of trans healthcare is also cancer treatment, menopausal treatment- things routinely not covered by insurance or accessible to patients who need them in places reliant on privatized Healthcare like the United States. Hysterectomy to literally save your life? Nope, but if it will metaphysically save your life.....then let's call it life saving healthcare! Hooray!
Its crazy when I listen to trans activists, I don't understand much of what they say. I though it was because I was stupid, yet I understand every argument of your video, its very clear and sensical. I believe I don't understand their arguments because they just don't make sense. They often use irrelevant unrelated claims to defend their arguments, often building their speech on a foundation made of relativity and subjectivity. It sound to me like the exact opposite of critical thinking.
This is my first time re-watching this particular video since changing my views on the subject and wow… the sheer entitlement is such a slap in the face. Who do they think they are??
"The way Cis people get" right. When my doctor referred me to community mental health over SH, CMH suggested I should instead be referred to adult ASD. Now assuming that this was in fact directly linked to my autism, the waiting list for a first appointment for adult ASD is a full year, where community ia meant to see you for the first time in 2 weeks, but realistically you're waiting a month. I took 4 months from seeing my GP about concerns about an ED to getting specialist help with an ED. Which is lightning fast for the NHS, but too long to stop my ED from significantly progressing before I started getting help for it. I have a friend (whose not trans) who asked for an emergency appointment and the earliest "emergency" appointment available was in 2 weeks time. My Mum's doctor didn't take her osteoporosis concerns seriously, despite my mum telling her about her family's genetic history of it, and being refused DEXA scan because she was "too young". That was until she broke both elbows and one of them twice, and then only to put my mum's mind at rest. The doctor was surprised at the results, my mum wasn't. And I have more stories than that. PT, you are getting treated exactly like a "cis person" You are asking for special treatment where all the "cis" people have to wait, get refused necessary tests, and have to experience their serious complaint get more serious before help is available., while you get your health care in a timely manner, and get all the health care you think you need.
On black women’s maternity mortality rate, there is evidence it’s race based as when all other factors are controlled like income, general health, etc, there are still elevated rates. This is one issue where intersectional feminism is helpful (for its intended purpose) as race and sex are both driving poorer outcomes for black women in their treatment.
Very curious to learn more about this. Is the lower black mother mortality rate specific to the west, specific to certain countries, or does it appear to be the case worldwide?
It's overwhelmingly income, education. The rest of it is social factors that exist in higher rates in those communities generally (such as lower rates of intact families, less likelihood to undertake comprehensive natal care, see doctors as regularly as other groups.) It's nothing else.
It's interesting that it's controlled for income. My assumption had been that income would be a big part of it. It's still hard for me to imagine how it being race-based would actually manifest, but I'm not going to dispute the data if that's what it indicates
Income is overwhelmingly the greatest predicator of outcomes relating to maternal health followed by the education of the parents. Controlling for income shows it's not race-based at all. It shows that cultural habits or group-associated-behabiours can have an adverse impact (such as high incidence of smoking in some populations) but those can also have a protective factor that offsets income (as in the case with some newly-arrived immigrant groups)@@KC_Streams
@@KC_Streams It's really telling that your basis for reality is you sitting in your room and assuming what factors could or couldn't affect health outcomes. There's a ton of literature on medical racism out there (like there's a ton of literature on the performance of gender you spoke confidently about, and a ton of literature on the study of transgenderism) that you clearly just refuse to engage with because you looked up a couple of definitions and decided that those are the true arbiters of how society should function and everything must bow to. It turns out science and society and how we treat each other is much more complicated than "gender is merely whether a person has ova or sperm" or "nobody is racist so all outcomes that differ by race must be class related". There are many more serious problems with the lack of community and empathy technology has brought about, but the amount of non academics who think their opinion on deeply complicated issues is important and spend their time whining about how a tiny minority with truly incredibly awful socioeconomic and health outcomes have had it too good for too long is very depressing. Any 'success' you bring about for your cause (which luckily doesn't seem to be very likely) will have the primary effect of raising the suicide rate for a tiny portion of the population (good luck refuting that literature). Why is that a good outcome for you? We probably agree on more issues than we disagree about, but yet your time is spent laser focused on ensuring one of the most maligned segments of the population being cast further into whatever void you believe some subset of people deserve to rot in because they don't think one of your little definitions is actually that important.
Surely an informed consent system would mean more and more mutilations and inevitable revisions, revisions of revisions, chronic wound and infection care and the lifelong medicalisation of people whose primary issue is mental illness. Not to mention the inevitable personal injury suits. Tax payers have to foot the bill as ppl’transition’ and de- ‘transition’. It’s costing a fortune.
I think given the prevailing attitude of neoliberalism, governments aren't likely to raise taxes to pay for healthcare, which means people who need actual life-saving healthcare won't be able to get it because the funding that should've gone to that will get redirected towards cosmetic surgeries. If that happens I hope the trans movement is held accountable.
I’m having a reconstructive jaw surgery under the NHS soon. They even wanted me to get a letter from my therapist to say that I was mentally well enough to have it done.
Detransitioner here, still suffering from dysphoria but choosing to treat it without medicalisation. It’s been around 3 years since I stopped. Thanks for your insights on dysphoria in this video. All of these things seem linked, public services being severely underfunded, society becoming more polarised and dysphoria/trans identity skyrocketing. We are in a state of collective dissociation.
I disagree getting a nose job is easier on the nhs than transition treatments. They’re the same in that if you go privately you can get whatever you demand if you want to have it done on the nhs you have to prove your nose (or whatever else the issue is) is giving you so much distress it needs to be changed. This is proven with psychological evaluation in the same way trans people need it. No one is getting a nose job on the nhs without evidence.
The thing is, I do think it is true that there are elements of masculinity and femininity that can't fully be performed without altering one's sexual phenotype. Because masculinity and femininity are social constructs but they're still constructs based on the reality of sexual dimorphism. So until humans evolve out of that sexual dimorphism, there might be limits to how much one can perform gender nonconformity without experiencing the kind of distress that compels a person to transition.
Equality: Everyone should be treated equally Equity: Certain people should be treated more, so everyone can end up equal Woke: If you are oppressed identity, it should be assumed/not proved that you've been treated horribly by the world which means from here on out your wants should be fulfilled before others' needs.
9:50 there is som evidence that racism/anti-black sentiments among employees and institutions is a factor though. Even adjusted for income and class etc. the mortality remains higher for black women
I'm waiting for PT to say that a woman on her period is experiencing gender dysphoria (because it's uncomfortable) and therefore pain meds and tampons/pads are the same thing as "gender affirming healthcare" 💀
Kind of a fallacy to conclude that "being a trans woman allows you to escape masculinity" must mean "in order to escape masculinity you must be trans". A leads B does not mean B leads to A. That's like saying '"you can cross the Atlantic to reach America" means "in order to reach America, you must cross the Atlantic"'.
I’d like to give PT one positive: the mental model of the drag of the desire of a organisation to reduce variety being overtaken by reality like a wave crashing - and causing organisation failure - is a nice one. Shame PT is trying to apply it to a niche area of healthcare that involves removing healthy organs and tissue. I used to get get tonsillitis 3 times a year (plus the grossness that are tonsil stones; don’t ask) and even then had to go private because the NHS guidelines is six times a year and they don’t know what stones are. Also: yes the nhs is structurally “transphobic” … it is also, for example, homophobic - it does not cater to some uniques needs of the gay men - but that’s because it has to deliver good value for the majority be design. Who would have thought. Shame PT didn’t offer up say the German model as the solution …
Christ on a clown bike. This is beautifully done - you gut and fillet the guy with a delicate restraint. I'd lose it, listening to his hoity little voice and the 'BUT I SAID NOW!' tight, spiteful face. Re the NHS, there's something that happened to me two years ago I'm reminded of thanks the Ollygail- I was 36 weeks pregnant, and I woke up at 1am on Sunday morning, covered in blood. It was later estimated I'd lost about 2 litres, which looks terrifying. I couldn't feel my baby move. Those awful people working the 999 lines didn't even pick up my call - engaged tone for over 5 minutes. I have never experienced that before, it's really scary. I hung up and tried again - after about 10 minutes a man answered, said I was a priority but it would be about 90 minutes before an ambulance was free. So, had to wake my older child, she was carried over the bloodbath into the car, I was driven into A&E. City A&E at 2am on a weekend night - full of drunks, but also due to Covid there was triage at the door. The bad NHS insisted I answer a list of questions and have my temperature taken before I go in. In the A&E waiting room, though, there was a straight, young, drunk couple. They thought they were lesbians, tho, if you know what I mean? The guy had one fake breast almost under his arm, and already had a dressing on his head. He shouted loudly on his phone about some bouncers pushing him over. I was in a wheelchair, queuing at reception and he kicked off he needed medical attention again and 'fainted' in such an obviously fake way everyone was either tutting or laughing at them. His girlfriend, seeing me in a nightie which was covered in blood, and me obviously heavily pregnant, literally wheeled me out the way to get past me and shout 'my girlfriend has collapsed and this is a *real* medical emergency'. It was the most stunning display of extreme narcissism I've ever seen. PT almost outdoes it tho *we were both fine, but it was at least another hour til I knew that and I could have bled to death
Another thought, tho - if Ollygail thinks 'just gimme the stuff i want and that would be cheaper' is a good ethic for running the NHS, I'm sure that it isn't only trans people who could bolster his campaign. How much is it we spend on drugg addiction in this country?
If you weren't showing clips from PT's/Ollie's actual videos, I wouldn't have actually believed it was possible for him to be this willfully stupid. I found his rant about needing a diagnosis before receiving treatment and outrage at being asked questions to be really telling. This man gives me the creeps like no other.
Abigail's downplaying of the risks of testosterone struck a bad chord. Recently I met a 25 year old man in the Emergency Department who had been taking >1000x the safe dose of testosterone to treat his own male body dysmorphia (although not trans-gendered dysmorphia). He was in severe heart failure and will now probably require a heart transplant to survive long-term. Can you imagine a world where he feels entitled to complain that society had denied him access to the medical intervention he needed in order to 'treat' his dysmorphia?
I did take the time to watch about 4 minutes of Philosophy Tube. There they were standing in front of the building which was formerly the hospital in which they were born, and which has now been converted into housing. The point then made by the Philosophy Tube presenter was that they can not afford to live in the room in which they were born. It's amazing entitlement. Why should any of us have any remote expectation that we might be able to take up permanent residence in the room in which we were born? I do not remember that being suggested to be one of the fundamental human rights!!
Doctors shouldn't administrate. They should be doctors. Funny story, in my country, the health service tried to introduce biker medics. Basically extra doctors who could go out and help ambulances, or get to a scene faster to start helping. But it turned out, doctors were really bsd at riding motorbikes, and the program was cancelled. Doctors should stay doctors, administrators and bureaucrats exist for a reason
Cosmetic surgery isn't healthcare, it's ego-care. The NHS is there to cater to the UK population's physical/mental health, not to help self-indulgent people conform to bizarre body modification trends. Also: there is no way PT hasn't put some sort of filter on his voice in this video
What I always wonder about is this: if a woman for example doesn't like her nose and feels like it's "too manly" (whatever that may mean), why is this not covered? She experiences negative feelings because of her gendered relationship with her body. It's a dystopian idea of course and we need to deconstruct gendered stereotypes (and the male gaze) as opposed to medicalize them, but just as a thought exercise.
Because the NHS covers “necessary” care, and have realised that prescribing as treatment to a psychological issue “hacking up the patient’s face” wouldn’t actually be appropriate (or ethical ofc). Of course you could pay a private surgeon to do whatever you want to your face.
Idk why you say you’re so accepting of gender non conformity when in previous videos you’ve characterized male cross dressing as being fetishistic and misogynistic, like saying that contra dressing as rocky horror picture show was a fetish or that contra dressing in a feminine way is sexist bc it relies of feminine tropes. Obv idk exactly what you think but I don’t think your content from what I’ve seen has at all been positive of male gender non conformity
What’s the meaning of the term ”trans identified”? Is it identified by people around them? Or is it trans identifying (as in, someone who identifies as trans)? I think the first one sounds awkward and possibly dehumanising, but also English is not my first language
Good question. I tend to use the term because I think that "trans" itself is often not that substantial beyond simply being a label, so I use the term "trans identified" with the following logic: I'm not saying this person is trans, because I'm not saying I even necessarily know what that means to them, but I am saying person identifies as trans, because clearly they believe that word in some way describes something about them
@@maschaorsomethingCongrat you earned one pickme point… that does nothing cause men will still treat you like shit no matter how much you lick their boots !!!!
All that you need to show to found the argument for an informed consent system is that patients have better outcomes receiving informed consent healthcare than basically not receiving healthcare in the current wilfully incompetent system. The data overwhelmingly backs this up; e.g. most US trans healthcare is informed consent so basically look at most local studies on the efficacy of trans healthcare. The difference is in fact totally life changing and the NHS is clearly not prioritising healthcare outcomes of trans people. This is not a resource issue because for other interventions, the NHS generally considers resource constraints and then chooses the best policy for patient outcomes within the existing constraints. [Also the resources that do get allocated are allocated very discrepantly, such that you can argue that there is a policy that under-prioritises the health of trans people.]
@@maschaorsomething he* He will never be a she. Ever. Most people on this planet don't feed into your mass delusion. You'll realize this when you leave your internet safe spaces
PhallusTube's seething misogyny in stating that women approach their GPs "wanting hysterectomies" reveals that he very likely hasn't spoken to any women who have suffered from chronic uterine bleeding or this type of surgery. I'd like to tell him that it's not like a nose job at all, but he probably wouldn't care. Most women in this situation are advised to undergo a hysterectomy because there is a strong suspicion of cancer causing the bleeding, or are not suitable candidates for treatments that preserve the uterus, their reproductive capacity or save them from having to undergo major, risky surgery. Women are also very often treated inhumanely, as if many important aspects of their lives such as their sexual function, psychiatric and cognitive health aren't important once they are no longer able to bear children by specialists who have chosen to focus on the female reproductive system. Women are often pushed towards hysterectomy although they do not want to lose their wombs for conditions that can be effectively treated by medical or minimally invasive technologies, for benign tumours (fibroids). Up until very recently surgeons also removed the ovaries whilst performing hysterectomies to address fibroids, sending women into immediate menopause, with all the joy that entails. This can be a young woman who hasn't had children yet but who is losing so much arterial blood when menstruating, due to fibroids pressing on the artery that supplies her uterus, that she is in danger of heart failure. To suggest/claim that women are privileged in the health system by accessing gynaecological surgery on demand is ignorant, or more likely just more misogynist trolling. I find it difficult to believe that any people, let alone hordes, can not only stomach sitting through his unironically awful videos, but also pay for them..
A woman with pathological bleeding from her uterus may be referred to a surgeon by her GP, who may agree that - medical attempts at therapy having failed - a hysterectomy is necessary to save her life - the condition CAN be fatal, depending on its cause. Only someone who needs psychological help seeks a hysterectomy for 'cosmetic' reasons.
okay i don't really agree with PT on a lot of points, but i also don't fully agree with yours either. obligatory i'm transgender, ftm. okay first thing. no one is asking to be seen before urgent care patient or cancer/etc treatment patients. i'm not asking to be able to walk into a GP and be handed testosterone. the five-year waiting list is bad, but not exclusive to trans healthcare. unfortunately it's part of the bigger issue of the NHS being massively underfunded and the staff overworked. my mother is a nurse, i get it. but when my GP doesn't fill out the referral form correctly (which by the way, is quite extensive and essentially asks for your life story) is it too much to ask for them to do it properly? am i entitled to ask to be seen by a specialist at some point in the future? safeguarding should definitely be in place for ALL types of cosmetic procedures (including trans healthcare) and honestly i wouldn't mind paying for my surgeries in the future. i understand that it's a cosmetic choice. it isn't urgent and it isn't necessarily life saving, but it is a goal for me. i also think it should be limited to people above 16 because i am a much different person to the one i was at 13-14. needing a mental health diagnosis before any treatment is good, and honestly i can't really understand how someone can identify as trans without feeling some kind of gender dysphoria (being gender non-conforming is the exception imo, that's a wee bit different). however your points on not being able to change biological sex are weird. no one is measuring gametes or researching your genes when they decide how to perceive you. it's purely based on your physical expression. i can't change my biological sex, but if i have facial hair, a deep voice, and a more 'masculine' figure then people will see me as a man, and that's sort of the goal. the thing with the gender stereotypes and the patriarchy is that it's really hard to put into words why i'm not just say, a masculine woman. all i know is that i don't see myself as a woman, or feel attached to anything associated with womanhood (feminine or otherwise). i think that as much as i believe gender stereotypes shouldn't exist, they very much do and people will subconsciously put people into those categories no matter what. this is why trans people get gender dysphoria - there is only so much you can do without cosmetic surgery or hormone treatment before you reach a wall. i have boobs, so everyone will see that and immediately see me as a woman. remove the boobs, remove that perception. it's ingrained in human society at this point. your point on gender dysphoria not being exclusive to trans people is pretty good. but the thing here is that i can't accept the reality of my situation no matter how hard i try, and believe me, i HAVE tried. attempting suicide because of gender dysphoria isn't normal, and isn't necessarily exclusive to trans people but is much more common. how exactly do you expect me to accept the reality of my biological sex when the very thought makes me more depressed? it's not an attack, i am just genuinely curious. last thing: yeah, i agree you can't really keep being trans a secret. discrimination shouldn't be happening full stop. also the way PT ends the video is so weird?? why is she referencing the matrix, aka the choice of seeking the truth, to being trans??? if i had the choice i wouldn't have gender dysphoria lmao.
Right?? Like oh no someone who experienced an extremely prolonged, humiliating, and uncertain case with doctors, who has an entire team of staff to pay helping her produce higher effort, well scripted, costumed videos based on sharing and applying her own formal Philosophy degree, after politely and subtly asking for Patreon support for years, dared to make a joke based on the tone of verbally sharing a vulnerable and expensive effort to just kind of. Live more authentically and experience less harassment for existing. How entitled of her, apparently. Like seriously, this guy thinks his videos are comparable in budget effort, quality to hers? "I upload more often!" Yeah, easy to do when your entire online presence is literally just harassing trans people for their well sourced and informed works in front of a desk mic and camera, using misapplied basic debate tactics and misinformation. You can also directly tell people to support your Patreon too if you actually worked it into a fittingly moving performance, no one's stopping you, King Critical.
I think the K-slur is sexist and I'd prefer it if opponents of trans-identity didn't use it, even when referring to trans-identified males. It also wrongly implies that PT is a woman.
it shouldn't because it's the most trivial manifestation of this problem, but it makes me so angry that with all the resources that the global north hordes at the expensive of the global south, and in light of the opportunities this provides for people to have the time, space and nourishment to develop and challenge their thinking---something billions of oppressed people crave but are denied the resources to do--the result is midwits like you making bland, incoherent proclamations like 'identity is a claim about reality'. also, i'm pretty sure abigail has repeaditly spoken about neoliberalism, whereas you are singularly focused on trans people. you literally speak about this issue more than she does! and when she speaks about neoliberalism she gets through to millions of people, not least because she is a genuinely dialectical thinker who doesn't just chew over her intuitions. I personally find her videos kinda boring, but they are clearly a product of rigour and originality (which obviously doesn't make them beyond reproach; on the contrary, it makes them challenging, whereas this is white bread for people who already agree with you)
The deep/slightly squeaky/nasal voice the TIMs have (they think sounds feminine but outs them immediately), that sounds like they have soft food stuck at the back of their throat, really puts me on edge. It's not pleasant to listen to at all.
I liked the video but in my opinion to say that you cant change sex by changing the phallus into hole is rebuttal to claim that noone makes. Im no expert but it just so happened that i watched recently some professor from Standford talk for 2 hours about biology and sex, lets just say you aren't as convincing as he was. The example about black people getting surgery to look white, yes they still would be black by origin or have some genetic whatever that shows they are black but if their skin gets altered to look white then thats what their skin color is, genetics be irrelevant and playing no role from that point on. They would either be white if we care only about categorizing people purely by color, or they would be their own transhumanist category. Same with sexual characteristics, its no original biological vagina but its clearly no penis either. Its like to insist that amputees actually have all limbs cause genes, humans are actually animals with tail even if we only have tiny, stubby irrelevant tail reminder and whails or snakes have hands because their bone structure suggests they once were.
No one choses to amputate a limb for no accute medical reason or demand that the healthcare system would fund taking away their limb for no serious reason. Also, no one is identifying as "handicapped" and demanding their legs to be removed. It's a strange comparison that doesn't hold up. Sex categories and a specific part of a body are not the same thing and we're not talking about the same issue here. In case of the racial identity stuff; you really don't think this is racist and problematic at all? How do you think black people would respond to this? And why would we want to fund and medicalize such things? Sex matters and women's oppression matters. A hole does not a woman make. It's unfortunate I even have to say this.
@@mchlle94 The strange comparison you found is not from my comment, i mentioned amputees once and as an example for how would i categorize trans people. Idk how did you mangle that to mean trans people are basically demanding free amputations. There are two or three extra examples to hopefully put you back on track. About the skin color change being racist, its racist only in specific context because of slavery and racism but once this context becomes irrelevant then it doesn't matter, it is moment in history because race is arbitrary concept that keeps changing. Why is this important to anything idk, i didn't even make the skin change example first. I wanted to talk about topic, not random stuff about race. Its also not business of black people to say what you can do with ur body, if someone wants to walk around with nazi cross on their face, they can but they cant expect everyone to willingly tolerate it. A hole does not a woman make, ok so what then, dont be surprised if biology doesn't play neatly by your rules. The debate bros are good example how anyone having google account and willing to game algorithm can put out their shitty opinion on trans people for masses to squabble over while medical community and health systems have clear answer unless specific politics get involved. If they say they see clear differences between trans and hetero neurobiology and this causes suffering to these people then what else is your health system supposed to do than to fix this. Whether you agree on what is women, at that point its idgaf and completely irrelevant.
Could you add a link to the video about the effects of testosterone to the description for this video? It looks really entertaining and informative. Also, am I only one who thinks dudes having visible veins is kind of gross?
I've worked in the medical field, the fact that PT even complains about this, despite none of it being medically necessary is absurd. He's not only entitled, he's asking for priority over actual disease process.
My recommended video under this one is PT's "A Man Plagiarised My Work" with a subtitle reading something about women and money. The absurd irony of a man making a living (much more than a living, from what I hear) from talking on RUclips and then identifying as a woman to complain about his financial situation. Where are the female "BreadTubers" with sycophantic followings and a high income like the men?
Trans health care financed by the nhs should only be mental health care - any physical interventions are cosmetic and, as per nose jobs, boob jobs etc should be financed by those seeking them, and subject to appropriate safe guarding.
The issue where a woman has a physical ailment which is treated by a physical intervention is not the same as a man or woman wanting coametic surgery to appear (ish) like the opposite sex
I had a contretemps with the Head of Security at my local hospital. She said “woman: adult human female” was a hate crime, and I disagreed. I’m pleased to say the police agreed with me.
it's fucking insane that you can call the cops on someone for offending your feefees in the first place and not get fined
Can you give more detail please? I'm very curious.
@@initial_kd hence the cops’ agreement.
It's definitely hatecrime-y. As if someone went around with a shirt yapping about ADAM AND EVE NOT STEVE!
@@patavinity1262 I posted some gender critical stickers. I received an ASBO from the police for that but could tell they were only doing their job; they really didn’t want to bother me. Ditto the security guard at the hospital interview; he looked very unhappy at being there. The Head of Radiotherapy seemed to not fully be aware of what was really going on, as the Head of Security kept calling it a hate crime, which seemed to perplex her. I’ve promised to behave at the hospital so I can continue my cancer treatment; I may need palliative care sooner than I thought. I hope to speak at the Let Women Speak rally in Exeter on Saturday. I have to think very carefully if I go into too much detail. I really have nowhere else to turn. The entire NHS Trust of the region is captured.
In Finland, the healthcare system is in a bit of a crisis and cancer patients sometimes have to wait for treatments. I heard that a cancer patient had to wait the entire day, and didn't get their appointment, because the urgent care patients were a priority. PT comes across like an entitled rich kid who's never had to deal with normal people problems.
Narcs put their desires before everyone's needs
He is a pest.
This happened to me with the NHS
I was with a friend in the States when his cancer treatment took almost all day, various staff shortages, pharma issues, as they put the chemo that's administered intravenously together on the day. The obsessions of the "trans" cult does impact the entire health care system in all Western countries. The frequency of emergencies for post op cultists does monopolize the doctors, the resources &etc. Then they go on with the suicide narrative and take more of their attention.
"The entire day" 😂😂😂😂😂🇺🇲
Ok, serious response. I've gone through the mental healthcare mill from ages 18-30, at 35 now. And from personal experience, I can tell you that there is RIGHTFULLY a lot of personal responsibility placed on the person seeking out the treatment. Even the best mental health professionals are really just feeling things out in the dark and have to assume you're sharing everything in good faith. And for a lot of people with these mental health issues, that's a lot to ask from them. Even if it's rightful that they carry this responsibility. Being reasonable, honest (with yourself and the healthcare professional), clear, responsible, etc. are both the thing you struggle with the most, and yet also what's being asked of you in the moment. It's incredibly difficult. There is no scan that can just 'see' what's wrong, they have to go by your answers. You know this, they know this. It's an incredibly difficult field to navigate for all parties involved.
Transexualism takes all of that one step further. Misdiagnosis and the wrong treatment can turn the aforementioned difficult-to-navigate field into a minefield, that can cause potentially permanent, life-altering, life-threatening, irreversible damage to a patient's body. And here Philosophy Tube is practically demanding that transexual healthcare should involve handing the keys of a monster truck to the patient, to traverse that minefield.
That's exactly what this person's advocating regardless of the potential outcomes for what could be a temporary mental blip. 89% of disphoric kids in the UK not accessing blockers remained their sex whereas 93% who took blockers graduated to X sex hormones. It's why they did their reviews and are tightening up access. The trans surgeon who did Jazz Jennings surgery stated kids going from blockers to X sex hormones then surgery will NEVER experience orgasm due to a lack of 'material' to fashion a new 'part' due directly to sexual immaturity. This person is incorrect claiming there's a 'wrong' puberty. Such kids don't have a puberty and we still don't know the long term potential damage from that. There's far more to it than extra hair.
Yet how often do teen trans kids attack teen detransitioners who used the 'informed consent' model saying 'getting it wrong was your fault'. Their fault for not fathoming the gravity of irreversible hormones, surgery and high complication rates?
The lack of US regulation is always to help business profiteer. I haven't forgotten the controversy via a leaked video of a US hospital administrator telling an auditorium full of staff how lucrative trans 'healthcare' would be for the hospital. That's behind a kid handed a prescription for X sex hormomes after one GP visit. That's what this person is demanding which is the root of it all. More millenials on raised to demand and expect to get what they demand who will use whatever label they can to blackmail us with. That being any label other than straight white man. We are witnessing another example of a spoilt entitled brat who thinks no shouldn't exist for them.
Just like those doctors they're already "Safe" so whomever comes after they don't matter. They'll vanish when it finally comes out they should have been MUCH more careful and observant.
Hey all! Occasionally I'm going to be uploading some of the videos I made on my second channel while this channel was dedicated solely to streaming. I figure it's best to consolidate my content. I agonised for a while about whether to rerecord this video for the sake of authorial continuity with my current content. However, in this case I was quite happy with how this video turned out, and also I have a bit of a cold, so getting out of a recording session was a very appealing notion.
As I work on moving all my content to this channel, I will probably decide on a case-by-case basis whether to re-record the content or just reupload it.
Either way, my plan is to use the breaks that reuploading this content affords me so that I can work on videos that might take more than one week, so that I can make sure I continue to hit my weekly upload schedule even if I might have bigger plans for certain videos going forward.
Hope you all enjoy!
My sister had a nose job that went poorly and needed a revision. She was sure she’d feel so much better about herself, but unsurprisingly it did not. It only made it hard for her to breathe. She was extremely mentally ill and has since committed suicide.
So these people don’t even want to go there with me.
Good thing that only 1% of people who get gender affirming surgery end up regretting it.
@@sharimeline3077 too bad that statistic is meaningless :/
Sorry that happened to your family.
Is difficulty breathing a common side effect of nose jobs? I wasn't aware of that, but now that you've pointed it out, it seems plausible. Was sister made aware of this beforehand? I'm disappointed no one's highlighted this before. I guess the public just assumes that women who get nose jobs are superficial idiots who'd regret for superficial reasons, like it not looking right.
Citation required. Thanks, in advance!
I don’t know why you don’t go to law school, you obviously have a vocation to it. And then you could use that training to represent detransitioners suing their doctors.
Funfact; PT is funded by MI5.
I really appreciate your videos because they make it bearable to sit through these pro-trans videos. I'm interested in what people like PT have to say but it's just too cringe without your commentary pointing out the stupidity.
I tried to watch through it at the time and couldn't fathom how anybody can enjoy or learn anything whatsoever from his 'philosophy' videos. His popularity is baffling.
*her
@@Ben-hd7gh It's like nails on a chalkboard listening to pt
Oh boy, that video is a doozy. My favorite part is when PT encourages people to lie to get a gender dysphoria diagnosis.
AGPs have been encouraging each other to lie to get "treatment" for ages. I'm starting to think it's an intrinsic part of their "trans identity".
@@erinsymone1645 I legit do not know if PT is AGP or a gender dysphoria situation where they're just too pretentious to actually say they had it.
They're bisexual and could be gay, really into theater... I just could really see it either way.
Council of G33ks, for instance, is *textbook* AGP: former straight man, has a female partner and a child then comes out as trans (while saying no gender dysphoria...) with a secondary YT channel displaying and reviewing their sex toys...now in a polyamorous relationship... also tweets naked pictures of them "presenting female" and bound and gagged. (Has OFs of course).
My favorite CoG story was they shared a DM where someone solicited them for sex and they said "I'm offended, I don't even hint I do stuff like this." It's like... a few days ago you just showed a picture of yourself naked bound and gagged, maybe someone got a hint?
@@dante6985if you look at some of the tweets PT likes, PT is definitely AGP. Also, by Blanchard’s theory, almost all bisexuals are “pseudo-bisexuals”-they are attracted to the idea of “having sex like a woman with a man”, but they are not actually attracted to men. Contrapoints also used to be a pseudo-bisexual, before realizing he wasn’t actually attracted to men.
@@StormBringer5 Ah. Thanks. Not surprised in the least, just can see it both ways with some cases (ie does seem like a narcissist where AGP makes most sense but does seem to have a lot of surgeries and whatnot ive noted more in gender dys type) . I was blocked so I wouldn't know about the tweets...
@@erinsymone1645Yeah it's 100% their way, then there's a weirdness with them where you can tell they're "fashion" is like something their mother would or has worn. AGP bimbos are more honest imo become woman to become the stereotype completely instead of this skirting the line acting like they're "normal"
The 'G' in GP doesn't stand for 'genie' 😂😂😂😂
He really does come across as selfish and unaware, we all know NHS waiting times are off the charts at the moment. It took me 10 months from being referred after a lengthy hospitalisation to getting an introductory appointment with gynaecology and that was a cancellation appointment which got me seen much sooner.
Using the example of women with uterine pain problems being referred for a hysterectomy by the GP is also disingenuous and shows how little he understands the trials of womanhood. It is notoriously difficult for women of child bearing age to get hysterectomies even when they are as a treatment for debilitating gynaecological pain and surely they should be given priority over women wanting hysterectomies as a result of mental illness.
Funny thing is literally right now I'm having issues with the NHS. As I mentioned in my main comment, I've got a cold. It's probably nothing but my tonsils are really swollen in a way I've never experienced before, so I just wanted a quick message from the doctor to confirm it's nothing to worry about, but the site where they take online questions for the doctor is always at capacity such that they can't take any more messages
Definitely stand by what I said here about how the quality of public services should be a standard that government revenue is obligated to meet, rather than the standard being determined by government revenue
*She
My breast scans were twice cancelled due to the breast care nurse having Covid. I was diagnosed with breast cancer two days after the Coronation. A week after I finally had a scan, they found two tumours, one NST, the other rare. My mastectomy took place on 30 August, by which time one tumour had grown from the size of a walnut to a lime. I’ve just learned it has metastasised. If the delays hadn’t first made the diagnosis late, and the operation later than was hoped, the cancer may have not metastasised. To hear that horrible man angry at not getting instant treatment makes my blood boil.
@@catherinerobilliard7662 She's a woman and just as valid as you are.
@@maschaorsomethingWhy is this your unempathetic response to someone's cancer diagnosis? No one was talking about the metaphysical belief system that qualifies whether the initial commenter thinks philosophytube is valid as a person or woman, haven't you heard of the medical principals of priority in situations such as triage? Which one is more important- someone who is going to die without medical treatment because of a material and physical pathology outside of thier control or someone who is experiencing emotional distress and may be at higher risk of suicide and may or may not benefit from medicalization, but is terrified of thier diminishing options if they don't transition as quickly as possible now that they have a name for thier feelings- which may be comorbid with a number of other diagnosis including anxiety and childhood trauma that may now no longer be considered medically important aspects of thier mental healthcare-? Cancer is killing the above commenter, Gender dysphoria made this rich person who is... from a rather posh class background and had access to private healthcare uncomfortable emotionally for several months- these things aren't the same. It's benevolent transphobia to assume Abigail, a literal rich person is awktually very very oppressed and somehow a magical unicorn in the gameified matrix of oppression where we trans away the metoo allegations of some of these high-profile TRAs, transaway the racism and the misogyny- but it doesn't work like that. Transpersons aren't magical unicorns and you can't protect yourself from being a bad or morally incorrect person by assuming that awktually all moral good revolves around your personal metaphysics- that's a religious belief, not the basis for the universalism necessary within human rights law.
Imagining thinking that positive rights are anything more than gilded entitlements.
I'm just working out the nuance in your argument 10 minutes in about black women's childbirth and postpartum mortality being higher. The classical argument is that most women have a history of their pain not being taken seriously, but that black women in particular have been subjected to explicit racism in early gynecology and women's medical history. I'd argue the discrimination here doesn't extend from underfunding but a history of devaluing black women's pain during and after labour. This is a point against PT's general philosophy on gender, as the whole reason for this mortality rate is deeply sex-based.
men can't get testosterone blockers for balding. we can get DHT blockers which are a great deal safer
This really baffled me!
Who would’ve guessed that just because you declare something to be a right, like healthcare, it doesn’t magically make it more available? Woah.
39:45 I’ve seen gender dysphoria be compared to the concept of emasculation, as in when a man feels his masculinity has been threatened. That makes perfect sense, both gender dysphoria and emasculation result from people attaching their self-worth to sexist, regressive gender roles. It’s unhealthy and pretty irrational if you ask me.
But that's not accurate. Autogynephiles are in romantic and sexual love with their erotic target location error self. Dysphoria is the interruption of that love. Male masculinity is nowhere near that. Masculinity is essentially ego. Agp is everything to these men
Gender dysphoria doesn't mean you adhere to sexist gender roles. Some transpeople actively shit on gender roles as well.
@@maschaorsomethingthen what does it mean to be trans? what does it mean to identify as anything other than your birth sex?
Gender dysphoria is a construction by the monster John Money to cover his crimes against children.
@@melan.cholia To be trans means you don't identify with the societal gender that you've been assigned to.
If a woman decides she likes wearing skirts, she's not this incredible misogynistic sexist who needs to man up against gender roles or anything. Men who want beards and muscles aren't misandrists either, unless they shame other men.
Some trans women like wearing makeup, and some really don't. There are trans men who really badly want to go to the gym, and there are those who will still wear pink or put nail polish and flowers on; they don't believe that their gender is tied to gender expression or biological gender. It's a complicated field of research.
that dude is such an insufferable whiner. there are people with real problems who have to wait too, why should his cosmetic procedures take precedence or soak up any resources? it's crazy
Yep. People with life threatening problems, not psychological issues
@@nikobellic570 why are psychological issues not life threatening in your view? are you aware that something like suecide exists
Just want to commend you on how well structured this video. While I enjoy your streams this format of (relatively) concisely presenting the substanttive points works incredibly well. I know it takes time and effort but I've really noticed the overall quality of your content improve over time. You may not have flashy production, but this a coherent, well argued and tightly edited presentation that serves as a robust and punchy critique. Thank you.
"Trans healthcare" consists exclusively of cosmetic procedures. Not looking the way you feel you ought to does not constitute medical need. Nor should blackmailing people with suicide threats, favourite tactic of "trans rights" advocates, be taken seriously by grownups.
They are an insidious group.
What a lie. Trans healthcare includes literally years of therapy and hormones as well, which are not cosmetic in nature.
I don't think is blackmail, even if they say nothing, the suicide statistics are still very real, and many are successful
@amyscarlett5502 "Give me free plastic surgery or i will kill myself" is emotional blackmail in its purest and most shameless form. Let's put aside the self reports of suicidal ideation that masquerade as statistics and think this through... if people are indeed feeling suicidal, then cosmetic surgery is not going to solve their underlying issues, certainly not in any lasting or substantial way.
The narrative that "trans healthcare saves lives" is a pernicious lie... it puts people on a path of lifelong medical dependency that they come to believe is "necessary" for their "identity" to be perceived as "authentic" when in fact they have retreated more deeply into the delusion that causes their distress in the first place.
We ought to look at the mental wellbeing of people who have actually "transitioned" and judge whether giving mastectomies and testosterone to teenaged girls is an appropriate mental health intervention.
And not to forget some kinds of trans healthcare is also cancer treatment, menopausal treatment- things routinely not covered by insurance or accessible to patients who need them in places reliant on privatized Healthcare like the United States. Hysterectomy to literally save your life? Nope, but if it will metaphysically save your life.....then let's call it life saving healthcare! Hooray!
So the silly little question that occurs to me is... When was the last time Philosophy Tube was about philosophy?
they fly too close to the sun, earn lots of money, and it all becomes about them. same thing happened to contrapoints.
@@satansgenitalia ... was Contrapoints ever about anything remarkable?
Its crazy when I listen to trans activists, I don't understand much of what they say. I though it was because I was stupid, yet I understand every argument of your video, its very clear and sensical. I believe I don't understand their arguments because they just don't make sense. They often use irrelevant unrelated claims to defend their arguments, often building their speech on a foundation made of relativity and subjectivity. It sound to me like the exact opposite of critical thinking.
Body modification should be out of pocket.
This is my first time re-watching this particular video since changing my views on the subject and wow… the sheer entitlement is such a slap in the face. Who do they think they are??
This ‘care’ shouldn’t even be available on the NHS, as it’s nothing to do with health
"The way Cis people get" right. When my doctor referred me to community mental health over SH, CMH suggested I should instead be referred to adult ASD.
Now assuming that this was in fact directly linked to my autism, the waiting list for a first appointment for adult ASD is a full year, where community ia meant to see you for the first time in 2 weeks, but realistically you're waiting a month.
I took 4 months from seeing my GP about concerns about an ED to getting specialist help with an ED. Which is lightning fast for the NHS, but too long to stop my ED from significantly progressing before I started getting help for it.
I have a friend (whose not trans) who asked for an emergency appointment and the earliest "emergency" appointment available was in 2 weeks time.
My Mum's doctor didn't take her osteoporosis concerns seriously, despite my mum telling her about her family's genetic history of it, and being refused DEXA scan because she was "too young". That was until she broke both elbows and one of them twice, and then only to put my mum's mind at rest. The doctor was surprised at the results, my mum wasn't.
And I have more stories than that.
PT, you are getting treated exactly like a "cis person" You are asking for special treatment where all the "cis" people have to wait, get refused necessary tests, and have to experience their serious complaint get more serious before help is available., while you get your health care in a timely manner, and get all the health care you think you need.
On black women’s maternity mortality rate, there is evidence it’s race based as when all other factors are controlled like income, general health, etc, there are still elevated rates. This is one issue where intersectional feminism is helpful (for its intended purpose) as race and sex are both driving poorer outcomes for black women in their treatment.
Very curious to learn more about this. Is the lower black mother mortality rate specific to the west, specific to certain countries, or does it appear to be the case worldwide?
It's overwhelmingly income, education. The rest of it is social factors that exist in higher rates in those communities generally (such as lower rates of intact families, less likelihood to undertake comprehensive natal care, see doctors as regularly as other groups.) It's nothing else.
It's interesting that it's controlled for income. My assumption had been that income would be a big part of it. It's still hard for me to imagine how it being race-based would actually manifest, but I'm not going to dispute the data if that's what it indicates
Income is overwhelmingly the greatest predicator of outcomes relating to maternal health followed by the education of the parents. Controlling for income shows it's not race-based at all. It shows that cultural habits or group-associated-behabiours can have an adverse impact (such as high incidence of smoking in some populations) but those can also have a protective factor that offsets income (as in the case with some newly-arrived immigrant groups)@@KC_Streams
@@KC_Streams It's really telling that your basis for reality is you sitting in your room and assuming what factors could or couldn't affect health outcomes. There's a ton of literature on medical racism out there (like there's a ton of literature on the performance of gender you spoke confidently about, and a ton of literature on the study of transgenderism) that you clearly just refuse to engage with because you looked up a couple of definitions and decided that those are the true arbiters of how society should function and everything must bow to. It turns out science and society and how we treat each other is much more complicated than "gender is merely whether a person has ova or sperm" or "nobody is racist so all outcomes that differ by race must be class related". There are many more serious problems with the lack of community and empathy technology has brought about, but the amount of non academics who think their opinion on deeply complicated issues is important and spend their time whining about how a tiny minority with truly incredibly awful socioeconomic and health outcomes have had it too good for too long is very depressing.
Any 'success' you bring about for your cause (which luckily doesn't seem to be very likely) will have the primary effect of raising the suicide rate for a tiny portion of the population (good luck refuting that literature). Why is that a good outcome for you? We probably agree on more issues than we disagree about, but yet your time is spent laser focused on ensuring one of the most maligned segments of the population being cast further into whatever void you believe some subset of people deserve to rot in because they don't think one of your little definitions is actually that important.
Surely an informed consent system would mean more and more mutilations and inevitable revisions, revisions of revisions, chronic wound and infection care and the lifelong medicalisation of people whose primary issue is mental illness. Not to mention the inevitable personal injury suits. Tax payers have to foot the bill as ppl’transition’ and de- ‘transition’. It’s costing a fortune.
LMAO no. These are not mutilations, as much as you fantasize that they are.
@@sharimeline3077 perhaps if you left your bubble you’d see.
@@sharimeline3077go dilate your poo sented hole !
I think given the prevailing attitude of neoliberalism, governments aren't likely to raise taxes to pay for healthcare, which means people who need actual life-saving healthcare won't be able to get it because the funding that should've gone to that will get redirected towards cosmetic surgeries. If that happens I hope the trans movement is held accountable.
You obviously haven’t heard of Jazz Jennings.
I did a spit-take when you asked (rhetorically) what is the point of PT’s video. Like do you see the irony? 🤦🏻♀️
I’m having a reconstructive jaw surgery under the NHS soon. They even wanted me to get a letter from my therapist to say that I was mentally well enough to have it done.
Detransitioner here, still suffering from dysphoria but choosing to treat it without medicalisation. It’s been around 3 years since I stopped. Thanks for your insights on dysphoria in this video. All of these things seem linked, public services being severely underfunded, society becoming more polarised and dysphoria/trans identity skyrocketing. We are in a state of collective dissociation.
That's awful
I have two question What kind of treatment are you using to treat your dysphoria?
And how is how is it going?
I hope it is going well
I disagree getting a nose job is easier on the nhs than transition treatments. They’re the same in that if you go privately you can get whatever you demand if you want to have it done on the nhs you have to prove your nose (or whatever else the issue is) is giving you so much distress it needs to be changed. This is proven with psychological evaluation in the same way trans people need it. No one is getting a nose job on the nhs without evidence.
The thing is, I do think it is true that there are elements of masculinity and femininity that can't fully be performed without altering one's sexual phenotype. Because masculinity and femininity are social constructs but they're still constructs based on the reality of sexual dimorphism. So until humans evolve out of that sexual dimorphism, there might be limits to how much one can perform gender nonconformity without experiencing the kind of distress that compels a person to transition.
Equality: Everyone should be treated equally
Equity: Certain people should be treated more, so everyone can end up equal
Woke: If you are oppressed identity, it should be assumed/not proved that you've been treated horribly by the world which means from here on out your wants should be fulfilled before others' needs.
9:50 there is som evidence that racism/anti-black sentiments among employees and institutions is a factor though. Even adjusted for income and class etc. the mortality remains higher for black women
35:58 Why? Why would we never develop roles and social expectations? We're a social species.
24:54 We keep getting reminded that we're not the same due to our similarities, we're different due to our differences.
I'm waiting for PT to say that a woman on her period is experiencing gender dysphoria (because it's uncomfortable) and therefore pain meds and tampons/pads are the same thing as "gender affirming healthcare" 💀
Kind of a fallacy to conclude that "being a trans woman allows you to escape masculinity" must mean "in order to escape masculinity you must be trans".
A leads B does not mean B leads to A. That's like saying '"you can cross the Atlantic to reach America" means "in order to reach America, you must cross the Atlantic"'.
I’d like to give PT one positive: the mental model of the drag of the desire of a organisation to reduce variety being overtaken by reality like a wave crashing - and causing organisation failure - is a nice one.
Shame PT is trying to apply it to a niche area of healthcare that involves removing healthy organs and tissue.
I used to get get tonsillitis 3 times a year (plus the grossness that are tonsil stones; don’t ask) and even then had to go private because the NHS guidelines is six times a year and they don’t know what stones are.
Also: yes the nhs is structurally “transphobic” … it is also, for example, homophobic - it does not cater to some uniques needs of the gay men - but that’s because it has to deliver good value for the majority be design. Who would have thought. Shame PT didn’t offer up say the German model as the solution …
Philosophy Tube rarely talks about philosophy
Christ on a clown bike.
This is beautifully done - you gut and fillet the guy with a delicate restraint. I'd lose it, listening to his hoity little voice and the 'BUT I SAID NOW!' tight, spiteful face.
Re the NHS, there's something that happened to me two years ago I'm reminded of thanks the Ollygail-
I was 36 weeks pregnant, and I woke up at 1am on Sunday morning, covered in blood. It was later estimated I'd lost about 2 litres, which looks terrifying.
I couldn't feel my baby move.
Those awful people working the 999 lines didn't even pick up my call - engaged tone for over 5 minutes. I have never experienced that before, it's really scary.
I hung up and tried again - after about 10 minutes a man answered, said I was a priority but it would be about 90 minutes before an ambulance was free.
So, had to wake my older child, she was carried over the bloodbath into the car, I was driven into A&E.
City A&E at 2am on a weekend night - full of drunks, but also due to Covid there was triage at the door. The bad NHS insisted I answer a list of questions and have my temperature taken before I go in.
In the A&E waiting room, though, there was a straight, young, drunk couple. They thought they were lesbians, tho, if you know what I mean? The guy had one fake breast almost under his arm, and already had a dressing on his head. He shouted loudly on his phone about some bouncers pushing him over. I was in a wheelchair, queuing at reception and he kicked off he needed medical attention again and 'fainted' in such an obviously fake way everyone was either tutting or laughing at them. His girlfriend, seeing me in a nightie which was covered in blood, and me obviously heavily pregnant, literally wheeled me out the way to get past me and shout 'my girlfriend has collapsed and this is a *real* medical emergency'.
It was the most stunning display of extreme narcissism I've ever seen. PT almost outdoes it tho
*we were both fine, but it was at least another hour til I knew that and I could have bled to death
Another thought, tho - if Ollygail thinks 'just gimme the stuff i want and that would be cheaper' is a good ethic for running the NHS, I'm sure that it isn't only trans people who could bolster his campaign.
How much is it we spend on drugg addiction in this country?
If you weren't showing clips from PT's/Ollie's actual videos, I wouldn't have actually believed it was possible for him to be this willfully stupid. I found his rant about needing a diagnosis before receiving treatment and outrage at being asked questions to be really telling. This man gives me the creeps like no other.
Abigail's downplaying of the risks of testosterone struck a bad chord. Recently I met a 25 year old man in the Emergency Department who had been taking >1000x the safe dose of testosterone to treat his own male body dysmorphia (although not trans-gendered dysmorphia). He was in severe heart failure and will now probably require a heart transplant to survive long-term.
Can you imagine a world where he feels entitled to complain that society had denied him access to the medical intervention he needed in order to 'treat' his dysmorphia?
God, the ending of PT's video is sooooo creepy. "Big Groomer Energy" indeed!
that's why it's philosophy tube, not reality tube.
Trans health care or mutilation, you decide.
I did take the time to watch about 4 minutes of Philosophy Tube.
There they were standing in front of the building which was formerly the hospital in which they were born, and which has now been converted into housing.
The point then made by the Philosophy Tube presenter was that they can not afford to live in the room in which they were born.
It's amazing entitlement. Why should any of us have any remote expectation that we might be able to take up permanent residence in the room in which we were born?
I do not remember that being suggested to be one of the fundamental human rights!!
Figurative speaking is beating your ass dude
@@vixo551 can you explain what Philosophy Tube meant by it?
Doctors shouldn't administrate. They should be doctors.
Funny story, in my country, the health service tried to introduce biker medics. Basically extra doctors who could go out and help ambulances, or get to a scene faster to start helping. But it turned out, doctors were really bsd at riding motorbikes, and the program was cancelled.
Doctors should stay doctors, administrators and bureaucrats exist for a reason
Petty but man Abigails voice is tough to listen to, it's so unnatural sounding
We could always criticise what the NHS spends the money on.
SURPISE BRO SCIENCE LIFE APPEARANCE
For an actor, PhilosophyTube isn’t that good at acting.
19:11
Lol, my guy you don't need to worry about any side effects from too much testosterone
Does anyone actually take this person seriously? That's sad if they do. So obviously talking shite.
Cosmetic surgery isn't healthcare, it's ego-care. The NHS is there to cater to the UK population's physical/mental health, not to help self-indulgent people conform to bizarre body modification trends.
Also: there is no way PT hasn't put some sort of filter on his voice in this video
The thing is she is making a category error herself with gender dysphoria 😅
PT just creeps me out.
The poorly acted persona is cringe.
None of these procedures qualify as life-saving. The entitlement is insane.
What I always wonder about is this: if a woman for example doesn't like her nose and feels like it's "too manly" (whatever that may mean), why is this not covered? She experiences negative feelings because of her gendered relationship with her body.
It's a dystopian idea of course and we need to deconstruct gendered stereotypes (and the male gaze) as opposed to medicalize them, but just as a thought exercise.
Because the NHS covers “necessary” care, and have realised that prescribing as treatment to a psychological issue “hacking up the patient’s face” wouldn’t actually be appropriate (or ethical ofc).
Of course you could pay a private surgeon to do whatever you want to your face.
😮 i don't like PT. She has the money for her healthcare needs.
Idk why you say you’re so accepting of gender non conformity when in previous videos you’ve characterized male cross dressing as being fetishistic and misogynistic, like saying that contra dressing as rocky horror picture show was a fetish or that contra dressing in a feminine way is sexist bc it relies of feminine tropes. Obv idk exactly what you think but I don’t think your content from what I’ve seen has at all been positive of male gender non conformity
PT is such an ignorant narcissist!
What’s the meaning of the term ”trans identified”? Is it identified by people around them? Or is it trans identifying (as in, someone who identifies as trans)? I think the first one sounds awkward and possibly dehumanising, but also English is not my first language
Good question. I tend to use the term because I think that "trans" itself is often not that substantial beyond simply being a label, so I use the term "trans identified" with the following logic:
I'm not saying this person is trans, because I'm not saying I even necessarily know what that means to them, but I am saying person identifies as trans, because clearly they believe that word in some way describes something about them
Why's your hair much longer than in the video from a few days ago?
Thank you.
While PhilosophyTube isn't the sole reason the NHS is underfunded, but his entitlement is part of what is putting it even more in crisis.
*Her
@@maschaorsomethingnot even going to argue with you
@@maschaorsomethingCongrat you earned one pickme point… that does nothing cause men will still treat you like shit no matter how much you lick their boots !!!!
@@melan.cholia You already did!
@@maschaorsomethingit's male entitlement 😊
All that you need to show to found the argument for an informed consent system is that patients have better outcomes receiving informed consent healthcare than basically not receiving healthcare in the current wilfully incompetent system. The data overwhelmingly backs this up; e.g. most US trans healthcare is informed consent so basically look at most local studies on the efficacy of trans healthcare. The difference is in fact totally life changing and the NHS is clearly not prioritising healthcare outcomes of trans people. This is not a resource issue because for other interventions, the NHS generally considers resource constraints and then chooses the best policy for patient outcomes within the existing constraints. [Also the resources that do get allocated are allocated very discrepantly, such that you can argue that there is a policy that under-prioritises the health of trans people.]
Very good video.
I’m sorry, that voice…I just can’t hear anything but the Monty Python boys in drag.
I'll give him this: it was highly entertaining that he played Entry of the Gladiators as he browbeat his audience to sign up on Patreon.
*She
@maschaorsomething get a life.
@@gamzecarsamba6273 I have one, and I spend it on respecting people.
@@maschaorsomething he* He will never be a she. Ever. Most people on this planet don't feed into your mass delusion. You'll realize this when you leave your internet safe spaces
@@maschaorsomething That's a dude
PhallusTube's seething misogyny in stating that women approach their GPs "wanting hysterectomies" reveals that he very likely hasn't spoken to any women who have suffered from chronic uterine bleeding or this type of surgery. I'd like to tell him that it's not like a nose job at all, but he probably wouldn't care. Most women in this situation are advised to undergo a hysterectomy because there is a strong suspicion of cancer causing the bleeding, or are not suitable candidates for treatments that preserve the uterus, their reproductive capacity or save them from having to undergo major, risky surgery. Women are also very often treated inhumanely, as if many important aspects of their lives such as their sexual function, psychiatric and cognitive health aren't important once they are no longer able to bear children by specialists who have chosen to focus on the female reproductive system. Women are often pushed towards hysterectomy although they do not want to lose their wombs for conditions that can be effectively treated by medical or minimally invasive technologies, for benign tumours (fibroids). Up until very recently surgeons also removed the ovaries whilst performing hysterectomies to address fibroids, sending women into immediate menopause, with all the joy that entails. This can be a young woman who hasn't had children yet but who is losing so much arterial blood when menstruating, due to fibroids pressing on the artery that supplies her uterus, that she is in danger of heart failure. To suggest/claim that women are privileged in the health system by accessing gynaecological surgery on demand is ignorant, or more likely just more misogynist trolling.
I find it difficult to believe that any people, let alone hordes, can not only stomach sitting through his unironically awful videos, but also pay for them..
A woman with pathological bleeding from her uterus may be referred to a surgeon by her GP, who may agree that - medical attempts at therapy having failed - a hysterectomy is necessary to save her life - the condition CAN be fatal, depending on its cause. Only someone who needs psychological help seeks a hysterectomy for 'cosmetic' reasons.
Excellent vid
okay i don't really agree with PT on a lot of points, but i also don't fully agree with yours either.
obligatory i'm transgender, ftm.
okay first thing. no one is asking to be seen before urgent care patient or cancer/etc treatment patients. i'm not asking to be able to walk into a GP and be handed testosterone. the five-year waiting list is bad, but not exclusive to trans healthcare. unfortunately it's part of the bigger issue of the NHS being massively underfunded and the staff overworked. my mother is a nurse, i get it. but when my GP doesn't fill out the referral form correctly (which by the way, is quite extensive and essentially asks for your life story) is it too much to ask for them to do it properly? am i entitled to ask to be seen by a specialist at some point in the future?
safeguarding should definitely be in place for ALL types of cosmetic procedures (including trans healthcare) and honestly i wouldn't mind paying for my surgeries in the future. i understand that it's a cosmetic choice. it isn't urgent and it isn't necessarily life saving, but it is a goal for me. i also think it should be limited to people above 16 because i am a much different person to the one i was at 13-14. needing a mental health diagnosis before any treatment is good, and honestly i can't really understand how someone can identify as trans without feeling some kind of gender dysphoria (being gender non-conforming is the exception imo, that's a wee bit different).
however your points on not being able to change biological sex are weird. no one is measuring gametes or researching your genes when they decide how to perceive you. it's purely based on your physical expression. i can't change my biological sex, but if i have facial hair, a deep voice, and a more 'masculine' figure then people will see me as a man, and that's sort of the goal.
the thing with the gender stereotypes and the patriarchy is that it's really hard to put into words why i'm not just say, a masculine woman. all i know is that i don't see myself as a woman, or feel attached to anything associated with womanhood (feminine or otherwise). i think that as much as i believe gender stereotypes shouldn't exist, they very much do and people will subconsciously put people into those categories no matter what. this is why trans people get gender dysphoria - there is only so much you can do without cosmetic surgery or hormone treatment before you reach a wall. i have boobs, so everyone will see that and immediately see me as a woman. remove the boobs, remove that perception. it's ingrained in human society at this point.
your point on gender dysphoria not being exclusive to trans people is pretty good. but the thing here is that i can't accept the reality of my situation no matter how hard i try, and believe me, i HAVE tried. attempting suicide because of gender dysphoria isn't normal, and isn't necessarily exclusive to trans people but is much more common. how exactly do you expect me to accept the reality of my biological sex when the very thought makes me more depressed? it's not an attack, i am just genuinely curious.
last thing: yeah, i agree you can't really keep being trans a secret. discrimination shouldn't be happening full stop. also the way PT ends the video is so weird?? why is she referencing the matrix, aka the choice of seeking the truth, to being trans??? if i had the choice i wouldn't have gender dysphoria lmao.
She was literally laughing when she "demanded" that we sign up to patreon. Your sense of humor can't be THAT bad, can it?
Right?? Like oh no someone who experienced an extremely prolonged, humiliating, and uncertain case with doctors, who has an entire team of staff to pay helping her produce higher effort, well scripted, costumed videos based on sharing and applying her own formal Philosophy degree, after politely and subtly asking for Patreon support for years, dared to make a joke based on the tone of verbally sharing a vulnerable and expensive effort to just kind of. Live more authentically and experience less harassment for existing. How entitled of her, apparently.
Like seriously, this guy thinks his videos are comparable in budget effort, quality to hers? "I upload more often!"
Yeah, easy to do when your entire online presence is literally just harassing trans people for their well sourced and informed works in front of a desk mic and camera, using misapplied basic debate tactics and misinformation. You can also directly tell people to support your Patreon too if you actually worked it into a fittingly moving performance, no one's stopping you, King Critical.
@@lilpetz500 How does he harass them? Does he personally go into Trans people's homes or something?
KarenTube
I think the K-slur is sexist and I'd prefer it if opponents of trans-identity didn't use it, even when referring to trans-identified males. It also wrongly implies that PT is a woman.
it shouldn't because it's the most trivial manifestation of this problem, but it makes me so angry that with all the resources that the global north hordes at the expensive of the global south, and in light of the opportunities this provides for people to have the time, space and nourishment to develop and challenge their thinking---something billions of oppressed people crave but are denied the resources to do--the result is midwits like you making bland, incoherent proclamations like 'identity is a claim about reality'.
also, i'm pretty sure abigail has repeaditly spoken about neoliberalism, whereas you are singularly focused on trans people. you literally speak about this issue more than she does! and when she speaks about neoliberalism she gets through to millions of people, not least because she is a genuinely dialectical thinker who doesn't just chew over her intuitions. I personally find her videos kinda boring, but they are clearly a product of rigour and originality (which obviously doesn't make them beyond reproach; on the contrary, it makes them challenging, whereas this is white bread for people who already agree with you)
The deep/slightly squeaky/nasal voice the TIMs have (they think sounds feminine but outs them immediately), that sounds like they have soft food stuck at the back of their throat, really puts me on edge. It's not pleasant to listen to at all.
I liked the video but in my opinion to say that you cant change sex by changing the phallus into hole is rebuttal to claim that noone makes.
Im no expert but it just so happened that i watched recently some professor from Standford talk for 2 hours about biology and sex,
lets just say you aren't as convincing as he was.
The example about black people getting surgery to look white, yes they still would be black by origin or have some genetic whatever that shows they are black but if their skin gets altered to look white then thats what their skin color is, genetics be irrelevant and playing no role from that point on.
They would either be white if we care only about categorizing people purely by color, or they would be their own transhumanist category.
Same with sexual characteristics, its no original biological vagina but its clearly no penis either.
Its like to insist that amputees actually have all limbs cause genes, humans are actually animals with tail even if we only have tiny, stubby irrelevant tail reminder and whails or snakes have hands because their bone structure suggests they once were.
No one choses to amputate a limb for no accute medical reason or demand that the healthcare system would fund taking away their limb for no serious reason. Also, no one is identifying as "handicapped" and demanding their legs to be removed.
It's a strange comparison that doesn't hold up. Sex categories and a specific part of a body are not the same thing and we're not talking about the same issue here.
In case of the racial identity stuff; you really don't think this is racist and problematic at all? How do you think black people would respond to this?
And why would we want to fund and medicalize such things?
Sex matters and women's oppression matters.
A hole does not a woman make. It's unfortunate I even have to say this.
@@mchlle94 The strange comparison you found is not from my comment, i mentioned amputees once and as an example for how would i categorize trans people. Idk how did you mangle that to mean trans people are basically demanding free amputations.
There are two or three extra examples to hopefully put you back on track.
About the skin color change being racist, its racist only in specific context because of slavery and racism but once this context becomes irrelevant then it doesn't matter, it is moment in history because race is arbitrary concept that keeps changing.
Why is this important to anything idk, i didn't even make the skin change example first.
I wanted to talk about topic, not random stuff about race. Its also not business of black people to say what you can do with ur body, if someone wants to walk around with nazi cross on their face, they can but they cant expect everyone to willingly tolerate it.
A hole does not a woman make, ok so what then, dont be surprised if biology doesn't play neatly by your rules. The debate bros are good example how anyone having google account and willing to game algorithm can put out their shitty opinion on trans people for masses to squabble over while medical community and health systems have clear answer unless specific politics get involved.
If they say they see clear differences between trans and hetero neurobiology and this causes suffering to these people then what else is your health system supposed to do than to fix this.
Whether you agree on what is women, at that point its idgaf and completely irrelevant.
Could you add a link to the video about the effects of testosterone to the description for this video? It looks really entertaining and informative. Also, am I only one who thinks dudes having visible veins is kind of gross?
Yes OK I will! Una segunda
@@KC_Streams Sweet!
I've worked in the medical field, the fact that PT even complains about this, despite none of it being medically necessary is absurd. He's not only entitled, he's asking for priority over actual disease process.
My recommended video under this one is PT's "A Man Plagiarised My Work" with a subtitle reading something about women and money. The absurd irony of a man making a living (much more than a living, from what I hear) from talking on RUclips and then identifying as a woman to complain about his financial situation. Where are the female "BreadTubers" with sycophantic followings and a high income like the men?
46 minutes is a long time dedicated to coming out as transphobic. you could have just said as such and made it easier for us.
What does “transphobic” mean to you?
I'm not here to play semantics with a bad faith cunt like you
@@TheLeftistOwlLeast schizo RUclips commenter.
Why is calling out a narcissist is "Transphobic"?