On your latch…. Sand or file it to get a clean surface. Then build up the stationary latch with JB weld. File or Dremel it to your desired shape and height.
Oh people, we bought a Jayco Pinicle in 2019 and it has been so incredible! We had a leak and it was a pinhole at the roof which I siliconed and it stopped and a leak in the pipes to our washer which we don’t have and we repaired that. Out side that not a single incident! We love our home. Quite often people ask us would we do anything different. Not a thing! We love it. Our trim and cabinets are so beautiful, so much better than rigs that cost $300,000 or more! And I did finish work on homes and cabinets for 45 years. We love our rig and recommend it to anyone!!
As a certified RV technician, I recommend that you call a tech for each of these minor issues. We gotta make a dolla! 😂 Glad they were all minor repairs. We watch those old game shows you had on too!
Thank you for pointing out some of the minor things to look out for and be aware of ... especially for first time RV owners before we actually by the first RV.
Glad Alliance is backing what they sell. Plumbing issues are what Fred hates the most. Glad that they were easy fixes. Those are the best kind. Mary 💕 Fred
I’m with the same thoughts as both of you. The slam latch and the blind.. all the other things have a tendency to just work or jar lose as you travel. Don’t forget to check your J Trap connections under your sink too, they have a tendency to work lose also. Safe Travels y’all and God Bless
Glad to see your video. Well done. And no, you don’t need a tech for all those. Well done on quick easy fixes. Frustrating though. They aren’t meant to be lived in full time but two weeks out… well. You know. I have had a lot of connections leak. And there is a leak coming from the door or around the door on the drivers side bay that lets a lot of water in the bay every time it rains. Some issues are going to happen. Some issues are a quality check issue. Fun fun.
I am a retired Air Force veteran (1980-2004). I have been a civilian contractor since 2013, working with the Army in Kandahar, Afghanistan and multiple bases in Iraq. I am currently in Baghdad. I plan to retire in a couple of years, and get an Alliance Paradigm (going back and forth between the 370FB and 382RK). Videos like yours give me the real scoop on problems, and good and bad points. I do appreciate your recognizing our veterans at the end of your videos. Thank you for all you have done.
Tony and Jennifer at Alliance have been amazing! I have a customer with a brand new 310rl and for the past year, Alliance called me, Myself and the owner have replaced slide bars on the dining room slide, bulb and wiper seals. the under belly as the dealer had cut it open AND the bed room slide mechanism as it was binding. Everything Fedex to us. Lately the bedroom slide FEll out! Alliance covered the cost of the replacement slide room and shipped it complete. Installing it is this weekends project. Very easy people to deal with. I wish moree RV manufactures were like this. Grand Design and DRV are pretty good as well. Lux is in a place all by themselves!
This is a really well done review. Thanks. I've been looking at Alliance and have liked what I've seen. Like you, I'd rather just fix minor issues than hassle with a dealer to get them fixed. Every new product - home, car, RV, whatever - is likely to have minor issues that you find over the first year or so. It's good to hear that they are very responsive when you needed help.
I've been doing a fair amount of research on the Alliance line. Leaning towards a Valor 37V13. Your review is one of the most reasonable that I have yet seen. But one thing is for sure.. I hope that the Owners of Alliance are paying attention to the feedback from it's customers, otherwise, they become a member of the Whatever Club. Having to wait for an Alliance Customer Rally and especially being limited to two issues... I find that unacceptable and they should be working on a solution. They have a rare opportunity to become a Leader, no, not just a Leader.. but the Leader in the Industry if they act accordingly!
We don't have to wait for a rally to get work done. We have an extended warranty if something goes wrong. The work they do at the rally is just a perk.
You're very lucky. I have spent hundreds of hours fixing all the factory screwups. The license plate bracket and license plate fell off on the very first trip which was only 30 miles from home to a state park. The screws holding the license plate bracket were stripped out from the factory. The second week the 50amp plug where you connect your power cord to the side of the RV fell out because the factory stripped out the screws holding it. The taillights fell out. Again the screws holding it were stripped out. Not mention all the pinched and bad wires I've had to repair. I haven't had any AC electrical power in the kitchen slide for a long time. More pinched wires in the under belly I'm sure. I've already had it off several times for wiring repairs. Lost all AC electrical power in the bedroom night stands because they pinched the wiring to it when they put in the wet bay. It would be a very long list if I listed everything that has went wrong. I would have traded it off long ago but I spent most of my retirement money on it so now my only choice is to keep fixing it. Just hoping the all wiring problems don't burn it down.
That is terrible. We have to hear that. We hope the manufacturer is helping with the fixes. Either way, it is a huge inconvenience and you shouldn't have to go through that.
Very good advice. Thank you for sharing the issues. You pay a lot of money for a “rolling earthquake” and little things add up. Glad to hear Alliance is so responsive. 🖖🏻👍🏻🙏🏻😘
Towing your trailer will loosen up some fittings. The vibration of towing I think is the issue. My under the kitchen sink drain would loosen and drip. So any time I towed the trailer I would tighten it up. It was always loose.
Considering the amount of travel you have done, I don't think it has been too bad. From what I have seen documented online about RV issues Alliance seems to build a quality product and more importantly seems to provide good after the sale service. I have seen some people post on RUclips about how some manufacturers have not stood behind their RVs and they have had nothing but trouble with them. Sounds like Alliance is a brand to keep on the list of possible RV brands.
We had the same latch issue. I removed the latch on the door and used a dremel with a sanding drum on the opening the latch fits in so the latch could be moved down.
We are only what....6 months into living in ours and we've had nothing but one blind fail and the auto level has never worked. I retapped our AC units and that made a world of difference, I can now be up to 30+ degrees from ambiant temps vs the fighting to get 20 below outside temps. We are also in an avenue vs the paradigm and swear our rig line is what they train on to make yours. I do know our model has the best of both lines, the 37 mbr was a prototype model when we pulled the trigger >< Customer service has been a godsend and that's what sold us on the unit too. Now that I just found ya, I need to see what else you got content wise.
We have the 385FL and are dealing with the same issues plus some other things. We are scheduled to go to the manufacturer plant for repairs next month.
I wonder how dealers feel about a pre pickup inspection. In case those little things need tighten or caulking or you need replacement parts before you even pull out of the lot. I know things go wrong but you should at least start with as clean a slate as possible. Great video.
Wife and I recently went to look at a Avenue 32RLS and a Paradigm 295MK. To preface, I'm a very technical person and very anal when it comes to things being "engineered" properly. And some may not like my opinion, but I think the Alliance products quality is only skin deep. They look beautiful with a very modern design and layout. While my wife was oogling over that aspect I started to really look at it from a technical aspect. For one, behind that access panel in the pass through storage....I can only describe what I saw as a web of cabling everywhere. If something needed to be serviced beyond that web there is literally no way to get to it without cutting cables. A little more thought and engineering could have gone in to that "mess" to put cable hangs and run the cables in an orderly fashion. Second, the shower in the 32RLS. The floor was like a trampoline. Zero support under it, especially around the drain. I'm only 175 lbs and the floor was moving a good inch or more in some spots. That's a recipe for a broken shower and/or drain plumbing. I did not see a way to access that area from underneath either, so it would most likely need to have the shower removed to address that. Third, and this is being nit picky, but a lot of the trim inside, like the baton's and crown molding, are fake wood with like a wall paper print on them. And in a lot of spots that wall paper print was coming off or shrinking. Fourth, as noted in this video, the slam latches were not properly installed. On the 295MK the driver side storage door wouldn't even close on one side. On the 32RLS the entry door wouldn't close without pushing it from the bottom. Fifth, in the 32RLS the bedroom ducted A/C on full blast barely had any airflow coming out of the vents. I closed off the dumps and it was barely blowing any air. This only had 4 vents, 3 in the bedroom, 1 in the bathroom. You could barely feel any air coming out of any of them. Something was definitely up with that. Sixth, in their "customer driven features" on their website they tout Lionshead tires. Neither of these 2022 rigs had Lionshead tires. They were some off-brand china bombs. My final point of contention comes from speaking to an Alliance rep that was there. I specifically asked about the frame. They use a Lippert Benchmark frame. I then asked about installing a Reese Goosebox since that's what I prefer to run. He said they do not recommend the Reese Goosebox, but instead suggested the Gen Y hitch. Which I find odd since only the Reese Goosebox is OE approved by Lippert with their frames. If you sustain frame damage with the Gen Y you are pretty much on your own for the repairs. This all didn't make sense to me why they would recommend a product that their frame manufacturer has no association with.
We have not had any issues since this video and Alliance customer service has always taken care of us when fixing issues so we will stick with Alliance. We hope you can find a brand that suits your taste.
Welcome to RVs. 'skin deep' is the motto of pretty much all the manufacturers. I have heard other folks say nice things about the factory support though. Seriously, though, how does something like missing window trim get through QC? I do like the shut offs at each fixture, it should be mandatory.
@@543whitey How robust is the process if the fittings go out the door loose? I'm picking between Montana, Alliance, and Brinkley for my replacement. Once you start getting into details, every one is riddled with problems.
Its a lot of little things except the blinds. Good thing you were able to fix majority of them yourself. These things roll down the highway and bounce around and I can only imagine what its like being in the rig going down the road. Glad your getting things fixed. Stay safe on the road friends. We miss you guys.👍❤️😂👊🇺🇸🥑👏
I commented in one of our videos as well about making sure the bay doors are closed and secured. Basic stuff, but as you commented on all your "stuff" could go flying out.
We're New owners of an Allience Paradigm. The only thing we're having a problem with is sewer smell in the bedroom area. So it was interesting that you said the two valves were mislabeled. So we're going to check into that. Hopefully that's all it is. Thanks for the video. God bless
Are you a member of the Alliance RV Owner Group on Facebook? I posted this a few weeks ago to help fix the sewer smell. We had that too. Here is a link but you will have to be a member of the Facebook group to view it. m.facebook.com/groups/635171803671871/permalink/1411480876040956/
Hello all, I have a Alliance 310RL which I purchased in February. I have listed a majority of things that I have happened with mine. These don’t include 13 items that were discovered on inspection day that they (dealership) had to resolve. I am not here to bash Alliance, but sharing my experience. I have not been 100 percent satisfied with Alliance nor the dealership I purchased it from. They are supposed to fix all of the remaining items next week. I am hoping this will be the last time it has to go into the shop. I am not a newbie to RV’s. I have had 2 Grand Designs (my favorites), Keystone Carbon, an older Thor product and now the Alliance. I do expect little things, but not everything we experienced. Please see a list below. Fresh water tank leaking from the valve - I had to fix myself Black out shades - The shades would not stay down - I had to remove them and make adjustments on 3 different ones. Leaking hydraulic on the right rear - still leaking. All of them are also making a creaking sound. The reservoir was overfilled for the hydraulic fluid and leaked all over the front compartment. I had to remove about 1 quart of fluid to prevent further leaking. Sewer valves are leaking so when I take off the cap, I have black sewage leaking all over. I am not talking about a little residual, I am talking about 4-6 cups worth of liquid. I had to purchase a secondary valve to prevent this from happening until it goes in for service. The shower shelf was only screwed in with one screw and had silicone everywhere trying to hold it in place. I had to remove it and fill it with silicone to prevent further damage to the shower. Waterspout on the passenger side will not connect to the hose. The underbelly had gaps which could allow rodents inside. The main door literally separated from the hinge. This doesn’t count all of the other little things that I had to fix as well. Interesting on the floor, I will have to check to see if I have that little block as well. Both of my slides leave marks every time as well. Thanks for reading and hopefully this will help others.
Alliance makes junk. People pay a fortune and then minimize all the dozens of serious issues. A water leak due to poor plumbing is not a minor issue. It’s indicative of crappy manufacturing.
Looked at 10 different Paradigms last week. I don't know if they were covid builds or what but every single one of them had spackle covering staple holes in the ceiling, the walls, tares in the floor also smudged with caulk or spackle trying to hide it. Never seen anything that bad before and that came from Alliance not the dealers responsiblity. Every other rv we looked at like GD and even FR were superior in comparison. Flawless fit and finish etc. Sorry Alliance but once I seen that coming from the factory it's hard to unsee. Probably going with GD now.
We have seen stuff posted on the forums similar to that and it's so weird to see because ours was so opposite. I even thought to my self no way our rig came from the same place that rig came from. We love ours and I'm so happy we went with Alliance but I totally can see why someone wouldn't after seeing those types of rigs. It's sad.
Dustin Thanks for the link to that tool. Great find We found the same thing, we really like the alliance but when we actually found one the deal apologized to us as we walked to it say it just came in and had not been cleaned up. What we found was not minor cleaning, island light fixture fallen and laying on the island. Kitchen drawers with no runners they just fell out in my hand. Just about all the cabinet doors needed to be adjusted, the TV was not installed level. We gave them a second chance at a different dealer and found a lot of poor quality in that one as well. Our friends who had were also looking at the same floor plan found similar issues so we both ended up buying a Montana. We figured they had some issues during the covid thing and hopefully are back on track with there QA Glad y’all have had good luck with your rig. I believe if you have a positive attitude about things and realize things break, come loose etc life is so much more fun. Most problems in RVs are minor it is all in how you deal with them. Thanks again for another great video Safe travels
No they’re all alike just some are worse. I spent two weeks fixing and repairing our 2021 Gulf Stream B Touring Cruiser built in 2020 during COVID!!! The bad part was the dealer sucked and GS would only say take it to the dealer. At least if you fix it yourself you know it’s right 😉
Well I hope alliance fixes the catch problem. That could be a issue if your stuff falls out on the road and drivers are dodging them. I haven’t decided to get a paradigm or Avenue yet. That’s all good info to know . Thanks for sharing
Just fyi on the slam-door latches. The handle itself I believe has adjustments to it so you can lower it down. On mine over time the latch moves up so I have to adjust sometimes. Bathroom rail I have the same problem , bought it in Sept first shower water.
Glad you had minor things wrong. Glad that pull down shade didn’t hit you. Nice temporary fixes. Liked how you fixed the latch door for your storage. It looks like it holds pretty good. Did we put our bad luck with water leaks from our sticks abs bricks in you with the toilet and shower! Lol! Our tub leaked so we caulked a few years ago and that part you told of on your toilet is what happened with water coming into the bathroom. So glad you caught it before you had a leak like ours. They started our stucco soon they’ll prime it and paint and then the flooring. Maybe late March or early April we will be back in our sticks and bricks. Time will tell. Glad Alliance helps their customers. I love Alliance. Your design in yours is great! Love you both and I hope nothing else goes wrong. Have a great day and see you soon!
We love Alliance and we can't wait to go to the rally in May. We are fortunate we have only had minor issues and Alliance has been very responsive in helping get it all fixed.
Definitely get the latch and shade fixed. Sounds like the shower track was put in 180° out. There are supposed to be little open slats for the water in the track to drain into the shower. If the track was put in wrong it would drain on to the floor.
Like he mentioned in the video. The end where the vertical and horizontal track meets was not sealed correctly. We had the same issue with ours and it is a very simple fix. If the track was backwards it would still be leaking.
I'm sure some of it shakes loose in transit from the manufacturer to the dealer as well. We bought ours in Tampa, so it had to come pretty far from Indiana.
Great video. I’m glad to see Alliance is standing behind their product with tech support and parts. Hopefully you will get those other issues fixed at a later date.
Overall I like what I’ve seen from this brand. Broken spring hangers are pretty common across the industry, and Alliance reinforces theirs and does it correctly. Inadequate tank support is something I’ve seen for many years across brands, and Alliance claims their theirs are intended to be strong enough to be used. The wiring and electrical also seems a bit better laid out.
Good video. We have an Alliance 365RD, we have had some minor issues as well. Alliance has been great in getting things fixed. I also have the issue with the kitchen slide out leaving marks on the floor. Have signed up to have this fixed at the Rally. Hope to see you at the Rally.
We bought an Alliance about a month ago. There’s always gremlins to work out with a new rig, but it’s not fun. Those child locks come in handy for so many things, especially on a rolling earthquake. Those tank straps are really tight on our rig, too. Alliance is so good at helping their clients and getting parts sent out. We may need to reach out about the plastic mod for the slide wheels. Ours is doing that, too. I’m so happy to hear you’ve had such a positive experience with Alliance!
That's so funny you mention it because we are trying to catch up on a lot of videos we've missed lately (lots of medical crap going on for us) and we watched your live where you mentioned you got a toy hauler.. congrats! Can't wait to see the video 😁. Definitely ask for the skid plates for the slides, they are a must. We just love how quick they are to remedy issues- more companies need to pay attention to how they take care of their customers. Any plans to be at the rally in May?
That all is crazy. It's always something. Tiny but annoying. When you check your RV before leaving it's so easy to miss the (normal) items. I'm so glad it didn't damage your floors. Did you have screens? Did you take them out? My biggest issue with ours is that about 50% of them just don't fit. So if you open the window bugs can come in. No help from Riverstone. It does bother me that there are so many items you had. I know it's made by humans but I think they all rush when putting it together. Some end of ok and others have little problems. My last comment is on all manufacturers
I got mine, it’s a keystone passport.. not a 5th wheeler… just a travel trailer. The heater would work for 15-20 min then shut off… after 3rd time taking it in, they finally just replaced heater, trim broke on door. I need to replace that yet, the toilet flush peddle broke.. they said not replaceable, need new toilet.. and of corse not under warranty. Found part on eBay and it’s on its way. FOR ONLY 20.00.. one of my garage doors, the lock is very hard to turn. It needs to be replace and I have screws that keep coming undone on outside that I just need to glue? Silicone? In the fricken whole! It’s frustrating, and due to demand.. I heard they are making them even worse now🤦🏼♀️… love your videos. Keep them coming
Now that you had the RV on the road for a bit, are you seeing the excessive corrosion of the frame/underbody components that some reviewers talk about? Pictures looked particularly bad in areas close to welds.
All things considered those problems aren’t too bad in my opinion. There was nothing mentioned that would have you stuck on the side of the road…and that where my frustration meter would get pegged!👍🏼😎
We're getting an Alliance Avenue next Friday.. glad to hear some of your problems so I'll know what to look for... I'd be worried about what fittings are slow dripping where you can't see... you know over time they'll get worse and who knows what... I watched the Alliance factory tour and how well built they are... they really are. I can't believe all those loose fittings.. and the mislabeled waste tank... I'm a little paranoid now. I'm going to get that tool and try to check everything.
We were able to get in one trip before the end of the season and I'm glad we did! We had about every problem you had including the leaks, the slam latch (they claim we need a whole new door) our tanks were all mislabeled, the microwave was all out of balance and made a racket.. TV wires were not hooked up behind the wall, a screw was through the center of the slide and cut the floor.... faulty brake light... lettering coming off the front... idk.. been at the dealer for the past 3 months. With a list of 15 issues. it's now mid-February.. Alliance claims quality over quantity.... SMH. Also the leveling system always says error... I'm pretty disgusted with my new purchase so far..
I agree with you, it seems like small stuff. Going to our Big RV show in Toronto tomorrow, hope to see some alliance products there...(looking for a toy hauler) We are ready to pull the trigger and are leaning towards GD but I gotta say you folks have us thinking...(same gene pool sorta🙂) Gonna grab that wrench/tool for the water fittings...I'm starting the RV Teck course this year and I'm sure it will come in handy. As always thanks....and safe travels.....see ya next week 🙂🙂‼️
We’ve been in our 340 for a year now and just easy fix things. We had some problems with our shades, but MCD was extremely helpful and sent us the parts we needed. The valances are a pain to get off, but with a few choice words we got it done. Glad things are going well for you folks. Take care and be safe!
Great insights to look for when we get our 5th wheel. We want to become full-timers. Why do you say RVs are not for permenant living. Have a great day. Thanks for all the helpful hints.
The reason we say that is most RV companies do not warranty their RVs if you live in them full time. Alliance is one that does allow it. In addition, they are just not built as well as they should be for full time use.
I'm sorry but I can't seem to find where you put the part # for the plastic fittings tool. I think that everybody with an RV needs one. Thanks for always keeping us entertained with both of your wonderful sense of humor!
Hey Dustin, this might work for you with your propane straps, when I'm putting the tanks in I kinda wiggle the tank around and makes closing the latch much easier. Not sure how it will work on yours since I only have one strap holding my tanks. I have a 2019 Cougar 362RKS. Plastic wrench is in the basket, thanks for that.
We know going into it that there will be some minor things we catch, and we're ok with that. Human errors will happen. Alliance has always been great at remedying it quickly and that's what important to us.
I watch you shows as soon as I see them. I think you guys are great. I personally wouldn't travel with a lizard but I am really interested in the legislation that you talked about in your video. I think that the "powers that be" need to be more realistic in what they do. I really hope you are able to keep Scout with you when you "Travel" Also I really like how you end your video's. Although I didn't serve, I have a very special spot in my heart for those that have, and still do. It has been one of my greatest regrets. All who serve stood on the wall and protected us from evil. There is no way I can ever repay the debt I owe you and them. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I liked this video because most people don't understand that an RV is not perfect. Its not like a car. I ordered the tool you have right away. That was very good that you showed that to everyone.
Like you said very minor. Appreciate the info. I’m manly concerned about construction faults leaking roof windows holding tanks slides not operating correctly. Minor plumbing under sink’s toilet cabinet latches are kinda expected. One question. Do you find it hard to heat with them big ass windows which I love. I have seen with some brands with all the windows it can be chilly.
We had a Montana before the Alliance and we have not found it any more difficult to heat the Alliance than it was in the Montana. Usually the coldest is at night and we have the shades pulled down so it keeps the cold from the windows at a minimum.
Warranty Claims will make you crazy ! Better be HandyAndy to protect yourself ? Killing time till the shop costs come on line $$$$ ? Sell them faster than they can fix them - Industry Problem ? 🤔
We love the Alliance Paradigm 340RL as well. The windows that actually open instead of the frameless windows that just crank open a little bit. Do you get a great breeze through them when they’re open? Are you finding spots to park this large 5th wheel and is it pretty easy to back into them? Thanks
We love the windows. They allow a great breeze to flow through. They are way better than the seamless windows we had in the Montana. We have not had any issues finding RV parks and spots to accommodate our RV size.
The problems you describe are relatively minor compared to what we have seen on other RUclips channels. Apparently you had no issues with the "big" stuff - slides, leveling jacks, appliances, etc. Knocking for you on real wood, not particle board. One couple we follow had a 50% failure rate (3 of 6) of hydraulic leveling jacks in a new rig. If that were us, we would not be happy campers. OBTW, Leslie, if it becomes necessary for Dustin to meet an untimely demise, remember that it doesn't have to be an accident, it just has to look like one. 😉 🤣
The biggest was customer service. All RVs have issues but Alliance is so good with addressing the issues quickly and getting you back on the road. We have been in our Alliance for over three years now and Alliance has never let us down.
Yes. A lot of people on the Alliance forum mentioned it a while ago, but I honestly don't have an issue with it. Didn't realize it until someone in the group said something, lol. Surprisingly my OCD doesn't really care 🙃
Sometimes things break in transit also. It was built in Elkhart, IN and we bought it in Tampa, FL. Those transit drivers are not as careful towing as an owner is.
@@WaywardWaggs You may be right, but strange that multiple plumbing connections were loose. Does the PDI include charging the entire plumbing system to check for leaks? The fact that you bought a special tool just to tighten connections makes me wonder.
Thank You Very Much for your Veterans Tribute. You say you get parts from Alliance. Do Dealers not stock parts or is it because you are on the road and not near any specific dealer to help. And I know how hard and long it takes to get into my local dealer so I can imagine how bad it is on the road. Are there certified mobile techs. We are between upgrading to a Montana or Alliance and still standing on the fence. 3121 or 310
We were still under warranty so Alliance will send the parts directly to us if it is something I can fix myself. If I would have needed work done by a dealer, they would have shipped them directly to the dealer.
We had a Monrana 3121RL and went to Alliance. We chose the 340 over the 310 because of carry capacity. The extra 3 feet of length is not as difficult to navigate as I thought it would be.
@@WaywardWaggs we discussed the 340 but we pull a 20 ft boat behind. Length no problem since I have driven truck all my life. Length laws for RVs are very sketchy at best ask any officer and they don't know or can't find any specific laws A couple states yes but we don't go there. Thanks for you reply
Refreshing to see "normal issues" and not the RV nightmare that tend to dominate the Internet.
I love it that you honor our veterans. As a veteran myself that means a lot thank you.
It is our pleasure. Thank you for your service as well. 🇺🇲
It pays to be handy when you own an RV for all of the “little” things. Thanks for sharing….
On your latch…. Sand or file it to get a clean surface. Then build up the stationary latch with JB weld. File or Dremel it to your desired shape and height.
Oh people, we bought a Jayco Pinicle in 2019 and it has been so incredible! We had a leak and it was a pinhole at the roof which I siliconed and it stopped and a leak in the pipes to our washer which we don’t have and we repaired that. Out side that not a single incident! We love our home. Quite often people ask us would we do anything different. Not a thing! We love it. Our trim and cabinets are so beautiful, so much better than rigs that cost $300,000 or more! And I did finish work on homes and cabinets for 45 years. We love our rig and recommend it to anyone!!
Sounds like a great RV. We are glad you have not had any issues.
As a certified RV technician, I recommend that you call a tech for each of these minor issues. We gotta make a dolla! 😂 Glad they were all minor repairs. We watch those old game shows you had on too!
We love watching Buzzer on antenna TV. We are a bit old school. 🤣
WOW this was eye opening! THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing all these minor possibilites
Thanks,I’m a salesman and some of these small fixes were very helpful
Glad to see review of Alliance after year of full time. Sounds like decent build quality. Thanks
We are still loving our Alliance. Great quality and great customer service.
😊all small issues something to be Thankful for. Plus the unit was only $29,000 to start with. You are a winner indeed.
Thank you very much for showing this and being honest!!
Time flys when you’re having fun! Been fun watching you guys this year!
Time has flown for sure. It was a fun year.
Thank you for pointing out some of the minor things to look out for and be aware of ... especially for first time RV owners before we actually by the first RV.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful 😊
Why dont more rvs owners just install w superglue, the hasps that click and u can padlock...seems like that would be another level of security as well
Glad Alliance is backing what they sell. Plumbing issues are what Fred hates the most. Glad that they were easy fixes. Those are the best kind. Mary 💕 Fred
this is the exact model we are going to get. thanks for taking the time to explain the small problems you two have had
Our pleasure. We hope you love your new Alliance when you get it.
I’m with the same thoughts as both of you. The slam latch and the blind.. all the other things have a tendency to just work or jar lose as you travel. Don’t forget to check your J Trap connections under your sink too, they have a tendency to work lose also. Safe Travels y’all and God Bless
We have had one come loose under the kitchen sink but we tightened it back up before it leaked.
mislabeled tank handles are very common even on some Lance trailers
The shade would bug me. We have the child lock like that on our fridge...not the prettiest, but it works!❤️🙏🏻Jane
Glad to see your video. Well done. And no, you don’t need a tech for all those. Well done on quick easy fixes. Frustrating though. They aren’t meant to be lived in full time but two weeks out… well. You know.
I have had a lot of connections leak. And there is a leak coming from the door or around the door on the drivers side bay that lets a lot of water in the bay every time it rains. Some issues are going to happen. Some issues are a quality check issue. Fun fun.
Hopefully you won't have any major issues. Alliance is very responsive when issues arise though.
Very useful video. Great to know what to look for and to have a sense of what is reasonable to expect. Thanks!
I am a retired Air Force veteran (1980-2004). I have been a civilian contractor since 2013, working with the Army in Kandahar, Afghanistan and multiple bases in Iraq. I am currently in Baghdad. I plan to retire in a couple of years, and get an Alliance Paradigm (going back and forth between the 370FB and 382RK). Videos like yours give me the real scoop on problems, and good and bad points. I do appreciate your recognizing our veterans at the end of your videos. Thank you for all you have done.
Thank you for your service as well. We are happy to help. Every manufacturer has their issues but customer service is why we love Alliance.
I was going to buy an alliance but after seeing this and seeing them in person I chose Grand design these trailers are to new to see long term
Is your frame flexing Yet?? 😝😂
We have owned our Alliance Valor 40v13 since December of 21 and have had only minor things to fix also.
Tony and Jennifer at Alliance have been amazing! I have a customer with a brand new 310rl and for the past year, Alliance called me, Myself and the owner have replaced slide bars on the dining room slide, bulb and wiper seals. the under belly as the dealer had cut it open AND the bed room slide mechanism as it was binding. Everything Fedex
to us. Lately the bedroom slide FEll out! Alliance covered the cost of the replacement slide room and shipped it complete. Installing it is this weekends project. Very easy people to deal with. I wish moree RV manufactures were like this. Grand Design and DRV are pretty good as well. Lux is in a place all by themselves!
We love the customer service. It is one of the big reasons we went with Alliance.
That's amazingly terrible, you shouldn't have to do any of that work. Manufacturer failed to provide a quality product.
This is a really well done review. Thanks. I've been looking at Alliance and have liked what I've seen. Like you, I'd rather just fix minor issues than hassle with a dealer to get them fixed. Every new product - home, car, RV, whatever - is likely to have minor issues that you find over the first year or so. It's good to hear that they are very responsive when you needed help.
The customer service is top notch for sure. Alliance is very responsive and helpful.
Oh Dustin you had so many opportunities 🤣🤣 Doesn't seem like a year that's for sure , so glad you are very happy in your home !! Safe Travels guy's 💚
Thanks Tanya! 😁
See you at the rally we will get that cargo door adjusted for you
Thanks Tim. See you there.
I've been doing a fair amount of research on the Alliance line. Leaning towards a Valor 37V13. Your review is one of the most reasonable that I have yet seen. But one thing is for sure.. I hope that the Owners of Alliance are paying attention to the feedback from it's customers, otherwise, they become a member of the Whatever Club. Having to wait for an Alliance Customer Rally and especially being limited to two issues... I find that unacceptable and they should be working on a solution. They have a rare opportunity to become a Leader, no, not just a Leader.. but the Leader in the Industry if they act accordingly!
We don't have to wait for a rally to get work done. We have an extended warranty if something goes wrong. The work they do at the rally is just a perk.
@@WaywardWaggs Got it
I've had to replace 5 of the shades. Take the shade down and get the number off the top and contact them for a new one. They are easy to replace.
Shortly after that video we attended their rally and had it replaced there. Thanks for the info though! 😊
You're very lucky. I have spent hundreds of hours fixing all the factory screwups. The license plate bracket and license plate fell off on the very first trip which was only 30 miles from home to a state park. The screws holding the license plate bracket were stripped out from the factory. The second week the 50amp plug where you connect your power cord to the side of the RV fell out because the factory stripped out the screws holding it. The taillights fell out. Again the screws holding it were stripped out. Not mention all the pinched and bad wires I've had to repair. I haven't had any AC electrical power in the kitchen slide for a long time. More pinched wires in the under belly I'm sure. I've already had it off several times for wiring repairs. Lost all AC electrical power in the bedroom night stands because they pinched the wiring to it when they put in the wet bay. It would be a very long list if I listed everything that has went wrong. I would have traded it off long ago but I spent most of my retirement money on it so now my only choice is to keep fixing it. Just hoping the all wiring problems don't burn it down.
That is terrible. We have to hear that. We hope the manufacturer is helping with the fixes. Either way, it is a huge inconvenience and you shouldn't have to go through that.
@@WaywardWaggs Unfortunately, no help from the manufacturer. Out of 1 year warranty period. I'm totally on my own.
@@bethmikels3613 Bummer. 😔
Very good advice. Thank you for sharing the issues. You pay a lot of money for a “rolling earthquake” and little things add up. Glad to hear Alliance is so responsive. 🖖🏻👍🏻🙏🏻😘
We are very impressed with Alliance and glad we went with them. We would choose Alliance all over again.
Great video. From my perspective, that is great quality rig for a couple that lives in their RV full time. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, we appreciate that 😊
Towing your trailer will loosen up some fittings. The vibration of towing I think is the issue. My under the kitchen sink drain would loosen and drip. So any time I towed the trailer I would tighten it up. It was always loose.
How about using a small grinder and grind the plastic catch down a few millimeters!!😉
Good idea
Considering the amount of travel you have done, I don't think it has been too bad. From what I have seen documented online about RV issues Alliance seems to build a quality product and more importantly seems to provide good after the sale service. I have seen some people post on RUclips about how some manufacturers have not stood behind their RVs and they have had nothing but trouble with them. Sounds like Alliance is a brand to keep on the list of possible RV brands.
Alliance has been great. Great customer service after the sale.
Is that "Match Game" on the TV? LOL.. Wife and I love watching those old shows. Especially "The Newlywed Game".
Yup. We love watching the old game shows. We like the old whammy and match game.
We had the same latch issue. I removed the latch on the door and used a dremel with a sanding drum on the opening the latch fits in so the latch could be moved down.
Good idea!
We are only what....6 months into living in ours and we've had nothing but one blind fail and the auto level has never worked. I retapped our AC units and that made a world of difference, I can now be up to 30+ degrees from ambiant temps vs the fighting to get 20 below outside temps.
We are also in an avenue vs the paradigm and swear our rig line is what they train on to make yours. I do know our model has the best of both lines, the 37 mbr was a prototype model when we pulled the trigger >< Customer service has been a godsend and that's what sold us on the unit too. Now that I just found ya, I need to see what else you got content wise.
We are glad customer service has been taking care of you. It's one of the reasons we went with Alliance also.
Your auto level system might just need to be Caliberaited. last year at the PAC Northwest Rally the on-site tech did this for quite a few owners.
It's all OK. At least the bottom didn't fall out!😆
We have had to fix more with our stick and bricks in the last year!! We go fulltime April 15th…can’t wait!!
Very exciting! That is coming up fast.
We have the 385FL and are dealing with the same issues plus some other things. We are scheduled to go to the manufacturer plant for repairs next month.
We'll get our fixed up when we get to the rally.
Are you having any frame issues or wall separations like Grand Design? I hear that Alliance does a better job on the frame build 😎🍻
I wonder how dealers feel about a pre pickup inspection. In case those little things need tighten or caulking or you need replacement parts before you even pull out of the lot. I know things go wrong but you should at least start with as clean a slate as possible. Great video.
Most dealers do that but how well they do it is not always the best.
Wife and I recently went to look at a Avenue 32RLS and a Paradigm 295MK. To preface, I'm a very technical person and very anal when it comes to things being "engineered" properly. And some may not like my opinion, but I think the Alliance products quality is only skin deep. They look beautiful with a very modern design and layout. While my wife was oogling over that aspect I started to really look at it from a technical aspect. For one, behind that access panel in the pass through storage....I can only describe what I saw as a web of cabling everywhere. If something needed to be serviced beyond that web there is literally no way to get to it without cutting cables. A little more thought and engineering could have gone in to that "mess" to put cable hangs and run the cables in an orderly fashion. Second, the shower in the 32RLS. The floor was like a trampoline. Zero support under it, especially around the drain. I'm only 175 lbs and the floor was moving a good inch or more in some spots. That's a recipe for a broken shower and/or drain plumbing. I did not see a way to access that area from underneath either, so it would most likely need to have the shower removed to address that. Third, and this is being nit picky, but a lot of the trim inside, like the baton's and crown molding, are fake wood with like a wall paper print on them. And in a lot of spots that wall paper print was coming off or shrinking. Fourth, as noted in this video, the slam latches were not properly installed. On the 295MK the driver side storage door wouldn't even close on one side. On the 32RLS the entry door wouldn't close without pushing it from the bottom. Fifth, in the 32RLS the bedroom ducted A/C on full blast barely had any airflow coming out of the vents. I closed off the dumps and it was barely blowing any air. This only had 4 vents, 3 in the bedroom, 1 in the bathroom. You could barely feel any air coming out of any of them. Something was definitely up with that. Sixth, in their "customer driven features" on their website they tout Lionshead tires. Neither of these 2022 rigs had Lionshead tires. They were some off-brand china bombs.
My final point of contention comes from speaking to an Alliance rep that was there. I specifically asked about the frame. They use a Lippert Benchmark frame. I then asked about installing a Reese Goosebox since that's what I prefer to run. He said they do not recommend the Reese Goosebox, but instead suggested the Gen Y hitch. Which I find odd since only the Reese Goosebox is OE approved by Lippert with their frames. If you sustain frame damage with the Gen Y you are pretty much on your own for the repairs. This all didn't make sense to me why they would recommend a product that their frame manufacturer has no association with.
We have not had any issues since this video and Alliance customer service has always taken care of us when fixing issues so we will stick with Alliance. We hope you can find a brand that suits your taste.
Welcome to RVs. 'skin deep' is the motto of pretty much all the manufacturers. I have heard other folks say nice things about the factory support though. Seriously, though, how does something like missing window trim get through QC? I do like the shut offs at each fixture, it should be mandatory.
@@543whitey How robust is the process if the fittings go out the door loose? I'm picking between Montana, Alliance, and Brinkley for my replacement. Once you start getting into details, every one is riddled with problems.
LOVE all the windows in the LR!! Im a window freak & need all that light & views.
The big windows are great. We love all of the light.
Its a lot of little things except the blinds. Good thing you were able to fix majority of them yourself. These things roll down the highway and bounce around and I can only imagine what its like being in the rig going down the road. Glad your getting things fixed. Stay safe on the road friends. We miss you guys.👍❤️😂👊🇺🇸🥑👏
We are actually very impressed that more things don't break with the beating these things take.
I commented in one of our videos as well about making sure the bay doors are closed and secured. Basic stuff, but as you commented on all your "stuff" could go flying out.
We're New owners of an Allience Paradigm. The only thing we're having a problem with is sewer smell in the bedroom area. So it was interesting that you said the two valves were mislabeled. So we're going to check into that. Hopefully that's all it is. Thanks for the video. God bless
Are you a member of the Alliance RV Owner Group on Facebook? I posted this a few weeks ago to help fix the sewer smell. We had that too. Here is a link but you will have to be a member of the Facebook group to view it. m.facebook.com/groups/635171803671871/permalink/1411480876040956/
Hello all, I have a Alliance 310RL which I purchased in February. I have listed a majority of things that I have happened with mine. These don’t include 13 items that were discovered on inspection day that they (dealership) had to resolve. I am not here to bash Alliance, but sharing my experience. I have not been 100 percent satisfied with Alliance nor the dealership I purchased it from. They are supposed to fix all of the remaining items next week. I am hoping this will be the last time it has to go into the shop. I am not a newbie to RV’s. I have had 2 Grand Designs (my favorites), Keystone Carbon, an older Thor product and now the Alliance. I do expect little things, but not everything we experienced. Please see a list below.
Fresh water tank leaking from the valve - I had to fix myself
Black out shades - The shades would not stay down - I had to remove them and make adjustments on 3 different ones.
Leaking hydraulic on the right rear - still leaking. All of them are also making a creaking sound.
The reservoir was overfilled for the hydraulic fluid and leaked all over the front compartment. I had to remove about 1 quart of fluid to prevent further leaking.
Sewer valves are leaking so when I take off the cap, I have black sewage leaking all over. I am not talking about a little residual, I am talking about 4-6 cups worth of liquid. I had to purchase a secondary valve to prevent this from happening until it goes in for service.
The shower shelf was only screwed in with one screw and had silicone everywhere trying to hold it in place. I had to remove it and fill it with silicone to prevent further damage to the shower.
Waterspout on the passenger side will not connect to the hose.
The underbelly had gaps which could allow rodents inside.
The main door literally separated from the hinge.
This doesn’t count all of the other little things that I had to fix as well.
Interesting on the floor, I will have to check to see if I have that little block as well. Both of my slides leave marks every time as well.
Thanks for reading and hopefully this will help others.
Thanks for sharing this information Brian. We truly hope they get it all fixed up for you.
Unbelievable what people will put up with from RV manufacturers!
Alliance makes junk. People pay a fortune and then minimize all the dozens of serious issues. A water leak due to poor plumbing is not a minor issue. It’s indicative of crappy manufacturing.
With the bay door issue, you might try loosening the latch on the door and see if you can shift it down a little to make a better connection.
We have it on our list of things for Alliance to fix at the Rally. I don't want to break it before they can fix it. 🤣
@@WaywardWaggs Gina can probably tell you I've broken a few things trying to "fix" them 🤣🤣🤣
@@HitchRollRelax I can believe that, not many handy guys would call a fitting a fixture. :)
Great finding this info since we are looking to buy an Alliance. But now not to sure.
All RVs have issues but Alliance's customer service is top notch.
Such a smart idea for the slam latch door!
Thank you 😁
Thanks for the link to the plastic wrench. I have the same issue with fittings in my 385 FL.
That thing has been a blessing to have- so glad we were told about it.
Wow! This year did fly by! That’s one reason if we had a 5th wheel, it would be an Alliance! Great recap. Stay safe. Much love from SC, Jane
Thanks Jane! 😊
Looked at 10 different Paradigms last week. I don't know if they were covid builds or what but every single one of them had spackle covering staple holes in the ceiling, the walls, tares in the floor also smudged with caulk or spackle trying to hide it. Never seen anything that bad before and that came from Alliance not the dealers responsiblity. Every other rv we looked at like GD and even FR were superior in comparison. Flawless fit and finish etc. Sorry Alliance but once I seen that coming from the factory it's hard to unsee. Probably going with GD now.
We have seen stuff posted on the forums similar to that and it's so weird to see because ours was so opposite. I even thought to my self no way our rig came from the same place that rig came from. We love ours and I'm so happy we went with Alliance but I totally can see why someone wouldn't after seeing those types of rigs. It's sad.
Dustin
Thanks for the link to that tool. Great find
We found the same thing, we really like the alliance but when we actually found one the deal apologized to us as we walked to it say it just came in and had not been cleaned up. What we found was not minor cleaning, island light fixture fallen and laying on the island. Kitchen drawers with no runners they just fell out in my hand. Just about all the cabinet doors needed to be adjusted, the TV was not installed level. We gave them a second chance at a different dealer and found a lot of poor quality in that one as well. Our friends who had were also looking at the same floor plan found similar issues so we both ended up buying a Montana.
We figured they had some issues during the covid thing and hopefully are back on track with there QA
Glad y’all have had good luck with your rig. I believe if you have a positive attitude about things and realize things break, come loose etc life is so much more fun. Most problems in RVs are minor it is all in how you deal with them.
Thanks again for another great video
Safe travels
@@owenarkison3558 We loved our Montana and we love our Alliance. Both are very good quality. That stinks that the Alliance you saw had so many issues.
Hey Guys, loved the video. I pay alot of attention to issues people are having. We pick up our new Alliance 370FB on Monday
Thanks! How exciting to be picking up your rig soon. Try not to worry too much 😊
We’re really thinking about moving from a motor home to an Alliance this winter🥴 Now you’ve got me thinking a different manufacturer🥴🥴
We have had minimal issues with our Alliance. Any manufacturer could have the same or worse. It's really a crap shoot.
No they’re all alike just some are worse. I spent two weeks fixing and repairing our 2021 Gulf Stream B Touring Cruiser built in 2020 during COVID!!! The bad part was the dealer sucked and GS would only say take it to the dealer. At least if you fix it yourself you know it’s right 😉
LOVE all those windows!!
144: they make magnetic dead bolt shaft, pins, until they came up w/those it was a joke prt waiting to break.
Well I hope alliance fixes the catch problem. That could be a issue if your stuff falls out on the road and drivers are dodging them. I haven’t decided to get a paradigm or Avenue yet. That’s all good info to know . Thanks for sharing
We are scheduled to get it fixed at the Rally in May. For the moment, the baby proof latch is keeping it from flying open on travel days.
Just fyi on the slam-door latches. The handle itself I believe has adjustments to it so you can lower it down. On mine over time the latch moves up so I have to adjust sometimes. Bathroom rail I have the same problem , bought it in Sept first shower water.
We will be at the Rally in May and they said they can fix the latch.
Glad you had minor things wrong. Glad that pull down shade didn’t hit you. Nice temporary fixes. Liked how you fixed the latch door for your storage. It looks like it holds pretty good. Did we put our bad luck with water leaks from our sticks abs bricks in you with the toilet and shower! Lol! Our tub leaked so we caulked a few years ago and that part you told of on your toilet is what happened with water coming into the bathroom. So glad you caught it before you had a leak like ours. They started our stucco soon they’ll prime it and paint and then the flooring. Maybe late March or early April we will be back in our sticks and bricks. Time will tell. Glad Alliance helps their customers. I love Alliance. Your design in yours is great! Love you both and I hope nothing else goes wrong. Have a great day and see you soon!
We love Alliance and we can't wait to go to the rally in May. We are fortunate we have only had minor issues and Alliance has been very responsive in helping get it all fixed.
Definitely get the latch and shade fixed. Sounds like the shower track was put in 180° out. There are supposed to be little open slats for the water in the track to drain into the shower. If the track was put in wrong it would drain on to the floor.
Like he mentioned in the video.
The end where the vertical and horizontal track meets was not sealed correctly.
We had the same issue with ours and it is a very simple fix.
If the track was backwards it would still be leaking.
Sweet ride. Aggravating but nothing to ruin your day. Would be nice if factory or pre delivery caught. These. Continue to enjoy your content
I'm sure some of it shakes loose in transit from the manufacturer to the dealer as well. We bought ours in Tampa, so it had to come pretty far from Indiana.
Interesting
Great video, Dustin and Leslie. We, too, have a floppy cargo door. Still trying to fix it. All in all, not too shabby for a year in the rig. Peace.
Thanks! Ya, as far as issues go I think we've been lucky 😁
Great video. I’m glad to see Alliance is standing behind their product with tech support and parts. Hopefully you will get those other issues fixed at a later date.
I just love Alliances customer service. They actually wanted to fix things sooner for us but we said we can wait until we get to the rally in May.
No excuse for that many connectors to not be tight.
Nice video. Those are really minor issues, and more importantly it sounds like customer service isn’t a voice mail black hole.
Ya, they were so minor and customer service is awesome!
Overall I like what I’ve seen from this brand. Broken spring hangers are pretty common across the industry, and Alliance reinforces theirs and does it correctly. Inadequate tank support is something I’ve seen for many years across brands, and Alliance claims their theirs are intended to be strong enough to be used.
The wiring and electrical also seems a bit better laid out.
Good video. We have an Alliance 365RD, we have had some minor issues as well. Alliance has been great in getting things fixed. I also have the issue with the kitchen slide out leaving marks on the floor. Have signed up to have this fixed at the Rally. Hope to see you at the Rally.
See ya at the rally! 😊
Shade would bother me more than latch on storage door. But that latch needs to be fixed too.
We can't wait to get through shade fixed. Only a few more weeks until we get to the rally and they can fix it.
We bought an Alliance about a month ago. There’s always gremlins to work out with a new rig, but it’s not fun. Those child locks come in handy for so many things, especially on a rolling earthquake. Those tank straps are really tight on our rig, too. Alliance is so good at helping their clients and getting parts sent out. We may need to reach out about the plastic mod for the slide wheels. Ours is doing that, too. I’m so happy to hear you’ve had such a positive experience with Alliance!
That's so funny you mention it because we are trying to catch up on a lot of videos we've missed lately (lots of medical crap going on for us) and we watched your live where you mentioned you got a toy hauler.. congrats! Can't wait to see the video 😁. Definitely ask for the skid plates for the slides, they are a must. We just love how quick they are to remedy issues- more companies need to pay attention to how they take care of their customers. Any plans to be at the rally in May?
@@WaywardWaggs yes. We’ll be there in May! Looking forward to seeing you guys.
Awesome, we'll see ya there! We are gonna be in section 1 😊
Great info. We are actually looking at the new Avenue line from Alliance. I definitely need to get that plastic fitting wrench. Thanks for sharing.
Love the color scheme of the Avenue, they did a great job. Yes, get the tool it's been great to have. I think we have it in our store.
That all is crazy. It's always something. Tiny but annoying. When you check your RV before leaving it's so easy to miss the (normal) items. I'm so glad it didn't damage your floors. Did you have screens? Did you take them out? My biggest issue with ours is that about 50% of them just don't fit. So if you open the window bugs can come in. No help from Riverstone. It does bother me that there are so many items you had. I know it's made by humans but I think they all rush when putting it together. Some end of ok and others have little problems. My last comment is on all manufacturers
Alliance has been very responsive with everything and very helpful. All of our screens work well.
I got mine, it’s a keystone passport.. not a 5th wheeler… just a travel trailer. The heater would work for 15-20 min then shut off… after 3rd time taking it in, they finally just replaced heater, trim broke on door. I need to replace that yet, the toilet flush peddle broke.. they said not replaceable, need new toilet.. and of corse not under warranty. Found part on eBay and it’s on its way. FOR ONLY 20.00.. one of my garage doors, the lock is very hard to turn. It needs to be replace and I have screws that keep coming undone on outside that I just need to glue? Silicone? In the fricken whole! It’s frustrating, and due to demand.. I heard they are making them even worse now🤦🏼♀️… love your videos. Keep them coming
Oh and I order the wrench for the fitttings thank you. Because you know every RVer is gonna need it!
We are glad you got some things repaired on yours and glad it didn't cost too much. Some repairs can be very expensive.
Now that you had the RV on the road for a bit, are you seeing the excessive corrosion of the frame/underbody components that some reviewers talk about? Pictures looked particularly bad in areas close to welds.
We have not had any issues. I think they coated ours well.
All things considered those problems aren’t too bad in my opinion. There was nothing mentioned that would have you stuck on the side of the road…and that where my frustration meter would get pegged!👍🏼😎
Considering the beating these things take down the road, it is pretty impressive that more stuff doesn't break.
We're getting an Alliance Avenue next Friday.. glad to hear some of your problems so I'll know what to look for... I'd be worried about what fittings are slow dripping where you can't see... you know over time they'll get worse and who knows what... I watched the Alliance factory tour and how well built they are... they really are. I can't believe all those loose fittings.. and the mislabeled waste tank... I'm a little paranoid now. I'm going to get that tool and try to check everything.
Welcome to the FamAlly. We hope you enjoy your new Avenue.
We were able to get in one trip before the end of the season and I'm glad we did! We had about every problem you had including the leaks, the slam latch (they claim we need a whole new door) our tanks were all mislabeled, the microwave was all out of balance and made a racket.. TV wires were not hooked up behind the wall, a screw was through the center of the slide and cut the floor.... faulty brake light... lettering coming off the front... idk.. been at the dealer for the past 3 months. With a list of 15 issues. it's now mid-February.. Alliance claims quality over quantity.... SMH. Also the leveling system always says error... I'm pretty disgusted with my new purchase so far..
Quick update... it's now mid March... NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
I agree with you, it seems like small stuff.
Going to our Big RV show in Toronto tomorrow, hope to see some alliance products there...(looking for a toy hauler)
We are ready to pull the trigger and are leaning towards GD but I gotta say you folks have us thinking...(same gene pool sorta🙂)
Gonna grab that wrench/tool for the water fittings...I'm starting the RV Teck course this year and I'm sure it will come in handy.
As always thanks....and safe travels.....see ya next week 🙂🙂‼️
We hope you see some great RVs. We love going to RV shows.
We’ve been in our 340 for a year now and just easy fix things. We had some problems with our shades, but MCD was extremely helpful and sent us the parts we needed. The valances are a pain to get off, but with a few choice words we got it done. Glad things are going well for you folks. Take care and be safe!
Thanks, you as well! 😊
Great insights to look for when we get our 5th wheel. We want to become full-timers. Why do you say RVs are not for permenant living. Have a great day. Thanks for all the helpful hints.
The reason we say that is most RV companies do not warranty their RVs if you live in them full time. Alliance is one that does allow it. In addition, they are just not built as well as they should be for full time use.
My current crappy RV is an Alliance.
Sorry to hear that
I'm sorry but I can't seem to find where you put the part # for the plastic fittings tool. I think that everybody with an RV needs one. Thanks for always keeping us entertained with both of your wonderful sense of humor!
We had an issue with the link at first. It should be in the description now. Let us know if you can see it now.
Yes I can. Thank you!
Hey Dustin, this might work for you with your propane straps, when I'm putting the tanks in I kinda wiggle the tank around and makes closing the latch much easier. Not sure how it will work on yours since I only have one strap holding my tanks. I have a 2019 Cougar 362RKS. Plastic wrench is in the basket, thanks for that.
There is definitely an art to it. You have to get them in there just right. I hate the latches.
At the price of your rig it should not have that many items be problematic. They didn’t checked everything before it left the factory
We know going into it that there will be some minor things we catch, and we're ok with that. Human errors will happen. Alliance has always been great at remedying it quickly and that's what important to us.
I watch you shows as soon as I see them. I think you guys are great. I personally wouldn't travel with a lizard but I am really interested in the legislation that you talked about in your video. I think that the "powers that be" need to be more realistic in what they do. I really hope you are able to keep Scout with you when you "Travel"
Also I really like how you end your video's. Although I didn't serve, I have a very special spot in my heart for those that have, and still do. It has been one of my greatest regrets. All who serve stood on the wall and protected us from evil. There is no way I can ever repay the debt I owe you and them. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I liked this video because most people don't understand that an RV is not perfect. Its not like a car. I ordered the tool you have right away. That was very good that you showed that to everyone.
We hope the amendment FAILS and we can continue to travel with Scout. We appreciate the kind words. It is our pleasure to honor the fallen. 🇺🇸
Like you said very minor. Appreciate the info. I’m manly concerned about construction faults leaking roof windows holding tanks slides not operating correctly.
Minor plumbing under sink’s toilet cabinet latches are kinda expected.
One question.
Do you find it hard to heat with them big ass windows which I love.
I have seen with some brands with all the windows it can be chilly.
We had a Montana before the Alliance and we have not found it any more difficult to heat the Alliance than it was in the Montana. Usually the coldest is at night and we have the shades pulled down so it keeps the cold from the windows at a minimum.
Very good video. 👍👍👍 Have a wonderful day. 😉 Greetings. Adam 😎
Thanks Adam
Is that wrench gizmo just an Alliance thing? I think it would be a good tool to keep handy! More info, please?
It's not just for Alliance! We have it in our store, go check it out. So glad we were shown this tool, it's helped out a lot 😁
You do this " I'll kill ya" you do that "I'll kill ya" LOL!
Any problem with awning detaching from side of RV? Guess my screws are stripped. Not enough glue. 1 month old
No. We have never had that issue. Sounds like you are still under warranty. Contact Alliance customer service and see if they can help.
Warranty Claims will make you crazy ! Better be HandyAndy to protect yourself ? Killing time till the shop costs come on line $$$$ ? Sell them faster than they can fix them - Industry Problem ? 🤔
We love the Alliance Paradigm 340RL as well. The windows that actually open instead of the frameless windows that just crank open a little bit. Do you get a great breeze through them when they’re open? Are you finding spots to park this large 5th wheel and is it pretty easy to back into them? Thanks
We love the windows. They allow a great breeze to flow through. They are way better than the seamless windows we had in the Montana. We have not had any issues finding RV parks and spots to accommodate our RV size.
we are not fans of the sealant used outside of the rv. They moved away from silicone.
We have to have our stove replaced, generator went out, electrical issues. All issues need to have professional services
The problems you describe are relatively minor compared to what we have seen on other RUclips channels. Apparently you had no issues with the "big" stuff - slides, leveling jacks, appliances, etc. Knocking for you on real wood, not particle board. One couple we follow had a 50% failure rate (3 of 6) of hydraulic leveling jacks in a new rig. If that were us, we would not be happy campers.
OBTW, Leslie, if it becomes necessary for Dustin to meet an untimely demise, remember that it doesn't have to be an accident, it just has to look like one. 😉 🤣
🤣 So true. We are very impressed that these RVs hold together as well as they do with the beating they take bouncing down the road.
May I ask why you traded your Montana for an Alliance? What is the quality difference. We may be going full time soon. I am doing my research.
The biggest was customer service. All RVs have issues but Alliance is so good with addressing the issues quickly and getting you back on the road. We have been in our Alliance for over three years now and Alliance has never let us down.
you are missing trim on the floor around your table.
Yes. A lot of people on the Alliance forum mentioned it a while ago, but I honestly don't have an issue with it. Didn't realize it until someone in the group said something, lol. Surprisingly my OCD doesn't really care 🙃
I love the W you have that is on the valance. What do you call that? I would love to get covers for that for our 390mp
Dustin does wood burning so he made that for me and I just used command strips to hang it up 😊
So their advertised “PDI” at the factory wasn’t so great after all.
Sometimes things break in transit also. It was built in Elkhart, IN and we bought it in Tampa, FL. Those transit drivers are not as careful towing as an owner is.
@@WaywardWaggs You may be right, but strange that multiple plumbing connections were loose. Does the PDI include charging the entire plumbing system to check for leaks? The fact that you bought a special tool just to tighten connections makes me wonder.
Thank You Very Much for your Veterans Tribute. You say you get parts from Alliance. Do Dealers not stock parts or is it because you are on the road and not near any specific dealer to help. And I know how hard and long it takes to get into my local dealer so I can imagine how bad it is on the road. Are there certified mobile techs. We are between upgrading to a Montana or Alliance and still standing on the fence. 3121 or 310
We were still under warranty so Alliance will send the parts directly to us if it is something I can fix myself. If I would have needed work done by a dealer, they would have shipped them directly to the dealer.
We had a Monrana 3121RL and went to Alliance. We chose the 340 over the 310 because of carry capacity. The extra 3 feet of length is not as difficult to navigate as I thought it would be.
@@WaywardWaggs we discussed the 340 but we pull a 20 ft boat behind. Length no problem since I have driven truck all my life. Length laws for RVs are very sketchy at best ask any officer and they don't know or can't find any specific laws A couple states yes but we don't go there. Thanks for you reply