You tell me you have a car as your display pic and didn’t notice at 5:37 this guys name is “ageraone” and shortly after it’s “great zx” !!! HOME BOY REALLY BOTTING FOR CAR PARTS lmfaoooo
@@X3rCobraz Well it makes sense, these guys make videos about people breaching ToS but advertised VPNs as ways to beat Netflix's georestrictions...which if you've read the ToS is against it, was complete hypocrisy for the sake of advertisement funds. Aka sellout.
Spot on, they get play time and sell in mass for 30-50c each. They are used for LMS (before competitive was removed from f2p), get mass points then get bonded and buy maul handles, usually last 3-4 days before detection but each bot can easily make 20m+ before being banned
or he has more than those 2,5k bots and just stack them up and every event he mass spams the event and picks up the loot from like 10k accounts. With no trade restrictions, that could easyly work.
@Ely Scanner none, it has nearly none comared to what osrs has. Dont even say the ed3 dungeon, with how little it actually is abused, is anything like having a solid quarter of the playerbase + be bots and abuse every aspect.
the bot farm on the f2p worlds might be a staging area, much like you can flash multiple computers with a single ISO for an operating system, they were probably trying to sync all the accounts together for training them to their required stats. Afterwards they'd be assigned the corresponding bot for their pre-determined task
If you could shed a light on goldfarmers killing Lizardmen shamans at canyon it'd be interesting since some have over 80m range exp from farming these dragon warhammers on every world
They're bots. they would walk out when you entered portal. it's been fixed to have them stay now, however kicking them out is easy as you just have to get aggro from a monster in the room and let the bot detect the room is busy...my favorite is killing them by having the lizardmen jump on them. they automatically tele out after 3-4 stomps if they're not dead.
Check out the amethyst mine. I was there for a few weeks afking at work and there were bots there every day. Some with 300-400 total level swinging rune pickaxes with level 105 mining. I grabbed about 1.5m worth of amethyst there per day in approximately 7 hours but these guys are in there all the time
I've been charging air orbs for a couple of weeks since I finished the Varrock hard diary for the crafting xp and cash. But every night I do it, there's 3 to 5 accounts between level 40-60ish doing it, they don't respond to me at all and all have magic levels ranging from 92- way above 99.
At 8:51 with the Lumbridge Church bots, my theory is that these are decoys to make it harder to report players who hand off real-world traded gold. This is a popular spot for sellers to meet with buyers, if you have enough decoys it makes it harder for them to detect who's trading gold back and forth. This would also explain why they suddenly log out at the same time (because the gold trade is over).
That time period is peak hour Australian time. I've been killing the granite green dragon bots, they are very difficult to kill since all the dragons aggro and they all run as soon as they see a skull
Damn that microcenter ad is actually great. I'll be picking up my free stuff in Columbus. Big thanks papa pugger. And thanks for the great osrs content!
I can tell you what the f2p bots are. websites align logging in and out to avoid detection - each bot they're using will only hold the gold for 12 hours at a time, then on the next account. sometimes more, sometimes less, but always logging in and out together (for the most part, a lot of websites use the same people). Hope this helps.
I doubt it. Most likely just shitty code that means they don't work for whatever they're set out for. Playtime can be gathered while also training a skill, so this would be pretty inefficient
@@Exmorted there gathering play time to sell to other bottlers at 20-50c per account, just racking up play time for lms, probs shitty code but that’s not shitty code
Hi Pug, I believe those f2p bots are clay miners, and yes, I believe they are likely waiting out the trading timer, i've been playing f2p lately and seen loads of those bots around, usually characters with dark skin, light green and purple clothing (possibly a colour based macro?) i haven't seen them in the church myself but the highest concentration i see them in is mining clay at vwest mine, usually 5-10 per world at the mine and several at bank/ge or in the general area travelling to and from the mine.
I dislike all his videos after watching them in full. He’s my favorite snitch. To bad he won’t expose Jagex for getting kickbacks from the Chinese state government.
The last clip, I’d say it would be what you said, about the bypass of trade system. Once that is clear, maybe that’s when they start training the accounts, and from there...who knows
Pugger is the undercover police detective of OSRS. We need a nod to him in the form of a full detective cosmetic set and even a statue of Pugger in Port Sarim jail.
There is a bot at the varrock sewer dungeon moss giants. It is maxed melee and is ranked 66th in kc at bryophyta with 485 kc. Its name is busfarmerj3 and is one of the many bots i see training here for other purposes. Using this location as a center point you could map out hundreds of f2p(future members) bots and their supply mules.
The last ones may be goldtraders. The most usual spot for goldtrading is lumb castle and these may be the accounts that hold the money, like different "bank accounts" so if one bot gets banned, barely any money goes down with it.
Im about to hit my 15 year mark , they are constantly updating the game with new content. There is some dead content but what game doesn't have a bit of that at runescapes age
The lvl 3 bots standing in lumby f2p is a huge automated farm that creates accounts, gives them playtime. the accounts are then "Rested" meaning they arnt used for atleast a month, then sold off as fresh off tut island accounts for other gold farmers for like less than a dollar each
The last bot farm looks like someone is testing the waters to see how their setup works, how many bots they can run, how fast they get detected, etc. Maybe even testing scripts to see if everything works right.
there's a big BIG bot farm at the skeletal wyvern cave, all fighting them melee, and all dressing same outfit with a red cape, i switched multiple worlds and yeah, it's pretty massive.
They're on the east of Varrock also! They're running from the lumber mill to the bank and to the rune before the mill. It's funny because if they see you some will logout fast and there's a high level in graceful gear hanging around a lot. Most are very low level bots. More in the early early mornings or late at night
@@rezzbuilds8343 that’s the issue, they aren’t paying 25 an hour. Plus these bots bring them money, when they can inflate the numbers they get, they can show that to investors, in the end they make more money. They won’t do anything until this game goes to shit and they’ll sell it off before that happens
They're probably the end characters of the bot chain. Each one of the characters probably only gets used once to trade to the person who purchased the GP. They're probably also used to isolate the source bot cell. If you imagine each bot farm as an individual cell. To protect one bot cell from another if they get banned they need to isolate each of the cells. That's probably what these church goers are. When they all logged off or swapped worlds and you saw others log back in you probably actually witnessed the mutli-world multi-cell trade isolation occuring.
If you go to the woodcutting guild on W302 around 9pm-10pm CST, you'll find multiple farms trading their logs to one account in a similar fashion. The accounts are typically low combat levels, but almost never level 3, and always have either 11 or 13 farming. I assume its multiple farms because the accounts appear to have in-game uniforms, and the "boss" they all trade is usually dressed similarly but slightly different. The accounts will pop into the world at the same time as the others, trade the "boss" one by one, and log out. Some of the names on the accounts are also similar to these in the video, [number] [word] [number]. While I was getting my woodcutting cape I reported these accounts multiple times, but I'd always see the same accounts the next night..
The farm in lumbridge is terrifying... What would be the purpose? Its simulating a perfect language for mapping the anti cheat detections capacity to track, ban, and monitor the way it picks up on herrings shuffled in and out of order. The size alone shows what kinda purpose it has. If it tripled, would the detection system slow down? Can it be overwhelmed with forced focuses strategically? It's not doing any actions so it's not a high priority.. spooky implications
I bet he laughed man honestly these people doing the real boy farms like this have made 100000s of thousands of dollars bro like fr 4 b is nothing to them
@@hunterfpv5201 People who run large bot farms are definitely not making hundreds of millions of dollars. Considering the costs of power usage, IT upkeep, buying + supplying membership to new accounts to replace banned accounts, etc., I'd be very surprised if anyone profits more than $150k a year from running bot farms. Losing $2000 isn't gonna ruin their life but it's still a significant amount of money
@@TrenticleesGaming I know a guy with 50k monthly profit , but it's the minority ig, you need more than just some bots and some scripts to make bank from that.
Jagex doesn't want to ban them LOL. they make the game look active. also they are all paying membership (buying bonds just keeps the value decent so whales purchase more) When Jagex says "oh yeah we've been watching this one for a while now" and its got 30+ days play time and billions of gold farmed. like lol what? just standing by as the bot farms pump billions of gold into the economy.
@@Sammysapphira 😑 where do the bonds come from? People buy them to sell for gold. if the bot farms didn't consume all the bonds they wouldn't be worth as much . . .
Its like a shoal of fish, the more bots put together the less likely one would get caught. Obviously it is very easy to create an account. They might bot there way trough tutorial island. But maybe slight changes on tutorial island will help, even randomising the steps on tutorial island (like recruitment drive quest) will demolish a huge amount of "basic" bots that get created.
ORGE CITY DUNGEON CAVE. South of Yanille, In the Orge City, near the city where you need to pay the Orge Gaurd a Cave nightshade, there are bots with 100+ range killing blue dragons in the saves spot.
SIR PUGGER SIR PUGGER I FOUND SOMETHING. the amulet vendor in south brim haven has a bunch of account buying all of them and then other accounts log on and sell 20 of each to the store and hop worlds. i havnt seen a ton of traffic but this is at 3:00AM CST the cost of the str amulet goes from 2430-1620 and the amulet of power goes from 4230-2820. most of them dissapear as soon as you get close
Theres a pretty big bot farm in the arceeus dungeon @Nechryael. They pick up any drops that ppl don’t pick up and high alch them. Tried talking to many of them and hoped to 7 different worlds and theres always one person picking up all the left out drops. In between times they wait for the drops to appear they kill monsters around. All with similar stats too.
This game is just printing currency out of thin air. Earning money from a game and then selling it. It's wicked. I feel like the owners of rs do inside jobs of producing trillions of gold in game and selling it for real money. Wicked I tell you!
i have been grinding moss giants for the champions scroll in the kourend dungeon, i usually see people in full granite run through. around 40 - 60 cb multiple worlds multiple times multiple accounts
There are around 15-30 accounts on f2p that were botting hill giants, they are almost on every world. They have this weird behavior of going to the safespot near the obor entrance before teleing/logging. There are also a huge amount of bots with rpg on edge monastery that were training defence by kicking the monks. Some even had 80 ish defence but level 1 on other combat skills
That last bot farm is probably botters testing things like how the bot detection system works or whether they can use bots in bulk (like how all of them logged out at once, and how groups of them logged in at the same time afterwards). Using level 3 accounts with nothing makes sense too since they lose nothing if the accounts get banned and they're likely gaining some information with each of the bots
I love how jagex waits for Pugger to report bot farms to them for almost an entire month without banning the bots. Wonder what it would be like if they banned them all every day, I mean they know where they are.
So im in a group of Facebook that say the level 4 bots are made and sold in bulk to bot farms, this saving the bot farms alot of time from making new accounts, supposedly averaging between 30-40 usd per 100 bots sold in bulk, logging in and out of different accounts in bulk is the creators ensuring none have been tarnished before making a sale.
Theory: low level bots in the church are activated to help hide gold traders account names.. most likely trading their gold to buyers in the church & instead of having just the gold seller and the buyer, they activate this low level bot farm to help hide the activity
I think you nailed it.. there probably timer rotation through all there bots, before they massive sell the bots to other botters, with them being ready to trade
doing the community a great service pugger, keep it up :) you should check out the fishing trawler, so many bots with identical stats on there when i was getting outfit. most with 80+ fishing.
I was about to say: “Jagex, give this man a job!” Then I realized, he’d be making less lol. Still, dude puts more time into busting the bot community than all of the bot busters at Jamflex.
Do you really believe that he does a better job? Do you really? Or you just want what Kool Aid is left from his PP? “Jamflex” busts thousands of bots a day my guy finds a couple of bot farms for a video or two that is uploaded so he can make money from it
@@Fake_Disciple also, didn’t say he does a better job. Said he spends more time bot busting than them, as in going out of his way reach out and doing research to actively find hidden communities, rather than write an anti-macro script that does all the work for you IF the perpetrator performs the actions in a specific way, which is EASILY worked around with randomized actions to make it seem like human error as a bot. You clown.
A bot farm constantly trades Zaff (stave's store in center Varrock) Vyrewatch Sentinels has some bots in monk robes, max combats in d boots and glories (hacked accounts). Seems the monk robe bots evolved as they were very easy to get stuck. These are blood shard farms, gold farms, idk, but make big money. Many never talk. A friend said some of the bots said "I'm the sherrif around these parts" lol MLM, woodcutting guild, bots
9:30 I know exactly what this is. This is name expansion. So, how do you circumnavigate a limit? You find a way around, or through. The limit here is that someone is likely figuring out a new name format to being *PUMPING* out bots. If you test by creating X per world and log in / out, it has a higher chance of updating your play time / standard name check. If the 4 number 6 character 2 number name system is being called out for being too "botlike", it could be pretty simple to create bots with names similar to regular RSNs based on a few parameters (like replacing specific characters from a semi-rng name splicing alg, so "Deep_Fried69" would become "D3EP_Fr13dbg" or some similar combination, basically makes 1 realistic name into many many realistic names) So in other words, get your unique usernames now, new formats are being explored, which means maaaaaaaaassive bot explosion on the horizon. Could be that a hard to detect botting method is being explored further and more resources are being funnelled into it as well.
When I was a preteen/teenager I use to go to dumb spots in RuneScape. I remember one time I met some randoms and we were role playing in the varrock inn. Game use to be a lot different back in the day when the expectations for games wasn’t that high and a good chunk of people were on a dial up connection lmao. Neopets, RuneScape and neverwinter nights were the first games I played online. But I agree now. You don’t expect people to be on the varrock wall by the West Bank.
Thanks for featuring my tipoff. Bots in lumbrige church. There alot bots in varrock filling jugs of water east varrock osrs free worlds, and them some buying more noted jugs general store and. Other farm few buying runes in the varrock rune shop
Couple weeks ago I teled to falador on w533, guards said there was a drop party. I ran to the party room, and there were two people in there. I popped a ballon and got 3m in platinum tokens. Some type of rwt?
@@dustyroflman8926 that's better then risking getting caught and getting your accounts banned and all $ taken. With this yes there's a chance someone can come and take some loot but less chance of being caught by jagex. Like with trading mules and shit they can track you. With the party you don't need to trade so won't get tracked. What's better. Losing some money or losing everything and accounts. C'mon man. Look at the bigger picture son.
@@andrespatino2761 they can still be tracked, in this video he was literally just talking about bots getting caught drop trading supplies to the bots, and then there’s the high chance that other people will show up and steal some of the money. Idk if I even believe that this happened but if it is true it’s a really stupid idea, or just some rich people having fun
Love the content brotha keep it up!! You're helping the game out more than you know :D This is exactly what Jagex needs to do about the ingame bot problem
Journalist: So jagex, we hear you're bot detection methods are some of the best in the industry, how does it work? Jagex: yes, its amazing, we can't talk much about it, but we can tell you what its called, we call it...PirSugger!
because bots makes money for them, they only want to take action when the bot is complete and have been operational for couple of days to motivate the botter to create a new set of bots, if they would get perma'd on day of creation then non would bot and they would lose big bucks.
@@casualBob7 how do the bots make money for them? they get 7 free days membership then they just buy bonds people have paid for with gp(they would sell more bonds if people couldn't buy from gold farmers, and gold farmers sell a lot of gp)
Hi mr Pugger! There is bot farm probably in varrock. They are lvl80-95 with granite armour on, spiny helmet and leaf blade or whip (high melee stats and like 42-50 slayer). Mostly saw them on world that i play in W377-378. They use the varrock fountain tele and go to varrock west bank. I see atleast 4-5 different character every hour. I report all of them, but I let you choose if you want to investigate on that farm :) RSN: Monopoly mvp if you want more info:) good day to you Sir!
Regarding the bots in the chapel, could they be testing against anti-bot measures? If I were trying to determine the exact conditions required to trigger Jagex's detection, this would be one of the first methods I would try. By limiting all other variables (location, level, activity), with enough accounts they could reconstruct the detection criteria, and determine validity of various anti-anti-bot strategies by determining which ones are banned.
The one in lumby, are they maybe a distraction so the detection system might go for them first or overload the system with a lot of bots so theirs has a higher chance of not being detected?
The last one you found is a bot farm farm. They are booking enough playable hours so there is no trade restrictions with the GE. Than selling the accounts to people that are boting.
That last bot farm I dont think it would be anything to do with playtime restrictions because it would seem more logical to be farming gold in that time. I personally think the script they were using wasnt working (My guess a quest script as that where the restless ghost start is and thats part of the ftp restrictions) and the owner hasnt realised. When all the bots logged out and back in this is most likely the AFK timer logging them out and then the bot client logging them back in again.
My theory is they're just low level church goers, and you're just interrupting.
My theory is they are looking up rare names and selling any good RSN's
Yoooo ur so funny dude!😐
Yo, there is a bot farm in bounty worlds aswell, theu farm kills
Just tryna warship the great lord, and you stomping your dirty feet on their ceremony.
My fav youtube framer plays rs?
This shit is intense, it’s like I’m watching a murder investigation show lol
The music helps creating that atmosphere😜
Netflix needs to buy this series
Murdering the legitimacy of osrs
You tell me you have a car as your display pic and didn’t notice at 5:37 this guys name is “ageraone” and shortly after it’s “great zx” !!! HOME BOY REALLY BOTTING FOR CAR PARTS lmfaoooo
Quite sad to think Lummy church is now used as a pre school for Bots lmfao
hahahahaha
damn man I can't believe Microcenter sponsored you, that's actually a really dope sponsor lol
Hell yeah I love shopping there!
They're sponsoring lots of people recently, I've seen a few before Pugger so this is probably the new nordVPN/Manscaped/Ridge Wallet
@@X3rCobraz You forgot Opera Gx!
Don Juan Not forgetting the infamous Raid Shadow Legends 😑
@@X3rCobraz Well it makes sense, these guys make videos about people breaching ToS but advertised VPNs as ways to beat Netflix's georestrictions...which if you've read the ToS is against it, was complete hypocrisy for the sake of advertisement funds. Aka sellout.
jagex: would definately pick up these bots in 12hrs!
meanwhile: hundred of bots in video with 20+ days gametime.
They would pick up those specific bots, maybe. Not all bots are created equally.
Within 12 hours of being reported maybe lol
Ikr jagex is a joke
@@dannyboi7695 JaGeX iS a JoKe the bot problem isn't even that bad.
Yeah when i tried botting i got banned in bout 2 days total gametime with lots and lots of breaks
Edit: this was a couple years ago
The "harmless" bots are getting playtime for resale (to other botters, for lms/trade restrictions etc)
Spot on, they get play time and sell in mass for 30-50c each. They are used for LMS (before competitive was removed from f2p), get mass points then get bonded and buy maul handles, usually last 3-4 days before detection but each bot can easily make 20m+ before being banned
Could also be used for spam PMs.
@@sdewey4152 are there playtime restrictions for PMs in f2p?
@@4pThorpy From what I can see it only applies to public chat and then it's just an increased rate of ban/mute.
or he has more than those 2,5k bots and just stack them up and every event he mass spams the event and picks up the loot from like 10k accounts. With no trade restrictions, that could easyly work.
Plot Twist: Sir Pugger is helping the bot team find all these different types of bot farms so that his own bot farm won't be compromised. Well played
His bot farm catches other bot farms
Plot twist, Jagex is controlling that huge last bot farm to boost their player numbers and make the game seem more popular.
I don't think they control them, but I don't think they want to get rid of them.
I quit because nothing means anything in this game since everything is botted
Makes me laugh when people say osrs has a higher player count. Maybe by bots but not actual players 🥴🤣
@Ely Scanner no where near the amount osrs has
@Ely Scanner none, it has nearly none comared to what osrs has. Dont even say the ed3 dungeon, with how little it actually is abused, is anything like having a solid quarter of the playerbase + be bots and abuse every aspect.
I had the choice between “idiotic vines that cured my anxiety” or this video. Glad I made it here..
You chose wrong young one
Sorry bout the anxiety friend. Hope it subsides. 🙂
@@chuckrouse2451 lmaooo
People still use vine?
Fix your account lol
the bot farm on the f2p worlds might be a staging area, much like you can flash multiple computers with a single ISO for an operating system, they were probably trying to sync all the accounts together for training them to their required stats. Afterwards they'd be assigned the corresponding bot for their pre-determined task
If you could shed a light on goldfarmers killing Lizardmen shamans at canyon it'd be interesting since some have over 80m range exp from farming these dragon warhammers on every world
Those might be venny gold farmers. I’ve seen Venezuelan gold farmers at Wyvern with 120m+ range exp
just vennys dawg
They're bots. they would walk out when you entered portal. it's been fixed to have them stay now, however kicking them out is easy as you just have to get aggro from a monster in the room and let the bot detect the room is busy...my favorite is killing them by having the lizardmen jump on them. they automatically tele out after 3-4 stomps if they're not dead.
Check out the amethyst mine. I was there for a few weeks afking at work and there were bots there every day. Some with 300-400 total level swinging rune pickaxes with level 105 mining. I grabbed about 1.5m worth of amethyst there per day in approximately 7 hours but these guys are in there all the time
The creepy rs music makes it sound like the bots are just ghosts that possessed old accounts that are unused now lol
Damn for real!!!
Sir Pugger has more contact with Jagex than their entire customer support for every player in game combine
XD
I've been charging air orbs for a couple of weeks since I finished the Varrock hard diary for the crafting xp and cash. But every night I do it, there's 3 to 5 accounts between level 40-60ish doing it, they don't respond to me at all and all have magic levels ranging from 92- way above 99.
Way above 99 you say 🧐
@@Goodvibez_live As in a ton of experience past 99. Runelite shows levels as if they kept going so I've seen levels between 100-110.
@@matthewfera2954 just messing with you 😊
That farm has been running for ages, that's where i practiced p2p pking lol
@@DaffyDubzFPV I would try to pk them if my level was closer. And I can't get membership on a 2nd account yet.
At 8:51 with the Lumbridge Church bots, my theory is that these are decoys to make it harder to report players who hand off real-world traded gold. This is a popular spot for sellers to meet with buyers, if you have enough decoys it makes it harder for them to detect who's trading gold back and forth. This would also explain why they suddenly log out at the same time (because the gold trade is over).
"SirPugger uploaded 16 second ago" - time to take a 10 minute work break I'd say!
Why didn't you watch the full video?.
@olive oil should be Banned! he really missed the best part
@olive oil should be Banned! why should olive oil be banned? (Seriously asking)
@@fureqeresf 10:20sec this man missed out
That time period is peak hour Australian time. I've been killing the granite green dragon bots, they are very difficult to kill since all the dragons aggro and they all run as soon as they see a skull
Damn that microcenter ad is actually great. I'll be picking up my free stuff in Columbus. Big thanks papa pugger. And thanks for the great osrs content!
Free ? There a BLM protest in Columbus no one told me about ?
614 ayyy
@@Legogreens Lmao savage
@@Legogreens lmaooo
I can tell you what the f2p bots are. websites align logging in and out to avoid detection - each bot they're using will only hold the gold for 12 hours at a time, then on the next account. sometimes more, sometimes less, but always logging in and out together (for the most part, a lot of websites use the same people). Hope this helps.
The bots in the chapel are trying to do the birthday event for the half full jug of wine.
I doubt it.
Most likely just shitty code that means they don't work for whatever they're set out for. Playtime can be gathered while also training a skill, so this would be pretty inefficient
@@Exmorted there gathering play time to sell to other bottlers at 20-50c per account, just racking up play time for lms, probs shitty code but that’s not shitty code
If you look closely they're all facing the father npc - yeah it's the half jugs of wine
Hi Pug, I believe those f2p bots are clay miners, and yes, I believe they are likely waiting out the trading timer, i've been playing f2p lately and seen loads of those bots around, usually characters with dark skin, light green and purple clothing (possibly a colour based macro?) i haven't seen them in the church myself but the highest concentration i see them in is mining clay at vwest mine, usually 5-10 per world at the mine and several at bank/ge or in the general area travelling to and from the mine.
the dislikes are literally people that lost 1b from their bot farms hahaa
Legit lol
I dislike all his videos after watching them in full. He’s my favorite snitch. To bad he won’t expose Jagex for getting kickbacks from the Chinese state government.
@@Editnamehere who tf asked
@@Editnamehere your watch time is helping him more than your dislikes are hurting him
@@Masterofchodes your mom asked me.
The last clip, I’d say it would be what you said, about the bypass of trade system.
Once that is clear, maybe that’s when they start training the accounts, and from there...who knows
Pugger is the undercover police detective of OSRS. We need a nod to him in the form of a full detective cosmetic set and even a statue of Pugger in Port Sarim jail.
Give him a ingame body armor cosmetic that makes him undetectable from other players. No more loggout bots
There is a bot at the varrock sewer dungeon moss giants. It is maxed melee and is ranked 66th in kc at bryophyta with 485 kc. Its name is busfarmerj3 and is one of the many bots i see training here for other purposes. Using this location as a center point you could map out hundreds of f2p(future members) bots and their supply mules.
The Lumby bot farm is a Jagex bot farm used to boost player count reports
;DDDD
The last ones may be goldtraders. The most usual spot for goldtrading is lumb castle and these may be the accounts that hold the money, like different "bank accounts" so if one bot gets banned, barely any money goes down with it.
Well i was thinking about that to, it could be hard to track the money if you trade the money like 1000s time with bots :/
I’ve never even played this game, but have spent all week watching videos about it
🤣🤣🤣
Give it a shot man. You’ll love it
@@jaxmeoff3974 I'm currently playing eso, but I really might have to check it out! OG mmos are cozy af
Im about to hit my 15 year mark , they are constantly updating the game with new content. There is some dead content but what game doesn't have a bit of that at runescapes age
dont start playing it, its a trap.
The lvl 3 bots standing in lumby f2p is a huge automated farm that creates accounts, gives them playtime. the accounts are then "Rested" meaning they arnt used for atleast a month, then sold off as fresh off tut island accounts for other gold farmers for like less than a dollar each
The last bot farm looks like someone is testing the waters to see how their setup works, how many bots they can run, how fast they get detected, etc. Maybe even testing scripts to see if everything works right.
It was so strange I saw this bot farm they were all facing the same directions lol
Is it possible they're trying to increase world populations artificially to decrease item respawn times?
@@mikek4025 pretty sure item respawn time has been fixed for awhile now, doesn't matter how many players are in a world
@@leoofontes Ah yeah okay, that had crossed my mind, was too sure though
@@jimsmick4236 You always face southwest when you login, no matter which direction you were facing when you logged out
there's a big BIG bot farm at the skeletal wyvern cave, all fighting them melee, and all dressing same outfit with a red cape, i switched multiple worlds and yeah, it's pretty massive.
That last enormous group might literally just be a guy trying to make OSRS look more active than it actually is.
Yes, a guy. Not the company that recently bought Jagex :O
My thought exactly lol. kinda a weird thing to do though
Nah, it’s just stalling so they get their 2 weeks of game time in for the restrictions and less likely to be banned when they play.
There’s more bots then legit players anymore...
They're on the east of Varrock also! They're running from the lumber mill to the bank and to the rune before the mill. It's funny because if they see you some will logout fast and there's a high level in graceful gear hanging around a lot. Most are very low level bots. More in the early early mornings or late at night
I don’t understand why Jagex isn’t doing this work. Honestly seems like fun lol
Because they like the farms for spending bonds
@Linus Eriksson makes sense
I'd do it part time, bot detective 25 bucks an hour
@@rezzbuilds8343 that’s the issue, they aren’t paying 25 an hour. Plus these bots bring them money, when they can inflate the numbers they get, they can show that to investors, in the end they make more money. They won’t do anything until this game goes to shit and they’ll sell it off before that happens
They should pay sir pugger for his services he does a grand job
They're probably the end characters of the bot chain. Each one of the characters probably only gets used once to trade to the person who purchased the GP. They're probably also used to isolate the source bot cell. If you imagine each bot farm as an individual cell. To protect one bot cell from another if they get banned they need to isolate each of the cells. That's probably what these church goers are. When they all logged off or swapped worlds and you saw others log back in you probably actually witnessed the mutli-world multi-cell trade isolation occuring.
That last farm could atleast stage weddings or something to pass the time
If you go to the woodcutting guild on W302 around 9pm-10pm CST, you'll find multiple farms trading their logs to one account in a similar fashion. The accounts are typically low combat levels, but almost never level 3, and always have either 11 or 13 farming. I assume its multiple farms because the accounts appear to have in-game uniforms, and the "boss" they all trade is usually dressed similarly but slightly different. The accounts will pop into the world at the same time as the others, trade the "boss" one by one, and log out. Some of the names on the accounts are also similar to these in the video, [number] [word] [number]. While I was getting my woodcutting cape I reported these accounts multiple times, but I'd always see the same accounts the next night..
This man needs to be paid by Jagex. He does more work than their whole anti-bot team. Crazy.
I agree
@@andrewlouden5924 yeah. Or he’s helping the bot community. Noobs.
What anti-bot team? lol
maybe jagex should pay their employees a decent wage
@@IntoxicatedGhost1 they know they don’t have to, because all the employees already do RWT to make up the difference 😂
0:59
Bruh, we used to fight over Varrock guards up there.
Was literally thinking the same thing. Used to train there 14ish years ago
honestly its really freaking cool to see a youtuber sponsered by micro center
Happens a lot if you watch actual tech channels
God that store is great but I hated working there
@@seanf8870 yeah my buddy worked at one and he didnt seem to enjoy it
The farm in lumbridge is terrifying... What would be the purpose? Its simulating a perfect language for mapping the anti cheat detections capacity to track, ban, and monitor the way it picks up on herrings shuffled in and out of order.
The size alone shows what kinda purpose it has. If it tripled, would the detection system slow down? Can it be overwhelmed with forced focuses strategically? It's not doing any actions so it's not a high priority.. spooky implications
3am bot hunt gone wrong gone sexual! (Calling Jagex at 3am!) REAL!
missed opportunity, will consult you in the future about my titles
I bet that botter was pissed when their mule got banned with 4B lmao
I bet he laughed man honestly these people doing the real boy farms like this have made 100000s of thousands of dollars bro like fr 4 b is nothing to them
@@hunterfpv5201 People who run large bot farms are definitely not making hundreds of millions of dollars. Considering the costs of power usage, IT upkeep, buying + supplying membership to new accounts to replace banned accounts, etc., I'd be very surprised if anyone profits more than $150k a year from running bot farms. Losing $2000 isn't gonna ruin their life but it's still a significant amount of money
@@TrenticleesGaming I know a guy with 50k monthly profit , but it's the minority ig, you need more than just some bots and some scripts to make bank from that.
@@TrenticleesGaming
Power Usage: Using hacked computers.
Buying Membership: Hacked credit cards.
It's pure profit.
@@Reelix Using hacked computers?? 😂
The first advertisement I didn't skip through in months. Good job lol.
Same, such a different sponsor
This feels like a time limited quest for a Zelda game, awesome video
As per usual, Jagex relying on the pug to find them bots...
Jagex doesn't want to ban them LOL. they make the game look active. also they are all paying membership (buying bonds just keeps the value decent so whales purchase more)
When Jagex says "oh yeah we've been watching this one for a while now" and its got 30+ days play time and billions of gold farmed. like lol what? just standing by as the bot farms pump billions of gold into the economy.
@@FR099Y literally all of these farm their own bond. They produce no money to jagex.
@@Sammysapphira 😑 where do the bonds come from? People buy them to sell for gold. if the bot farms didn't consume all the bonds they wouldn't be worth as much . . .
Its like a shoal of fish, the more bots put together the less likely one would get caught. Obviously it is very easy to create an account. They might bot there way trough tutorial island. But maybe slight changes on tutorial island will help, even randomising the steps on tutorial island (like recruitment drive quest) will demolish a huge amount of "basic" bots that get created.
Those f2p bots might be for doing holiday events for loot and they need playtime to trade the loot
ORGE CITY DUNGEON CAVE. South of Yanille, In the Orge City, near the city where you need to pay the Orge Gaurd a Cave nightshade, there are bots with 100+ range killing blue dragons in the saves spot.
bots be like: OH BOY 3 AM
I laughed out loud on this. Thank you.
The bots in lumb are in fact playtime bots that are sold in bulk to other bot farm creators. A batch of 50 accounts goes for around 20$
the ones at the end is a bot farm owner doing testing and probably learning how to outsmart Jagex
I think it's a stability or performance test for a new bot client or bot manager.
Exactly
You might just be on to something
SIR PUGGER SIR PUGGER I FOUND SOMETHING. the amulet vendor in south brim haven has a bunch of account buying all of them and then other accounts log on and sell 20 of each to the store and hop worlds. i havnt seen a ton of traffic but this is at 3:00AM CST the cost of the str amulet goes from 2430-1620 and the amulet of power goes from 4230-2820. most of them dissapear as soon as you get close
Spooky starts playing:* Tum dum dum dum..*
Me: *.* get's enchanted , need to watch video !!
Theres a pretty big bot farm in the arceeus dungeon @Nechryael. They pick up any drops that ppl don’t pick up and high alch them. Tried talking to many of them and hoped to 7 different worlds and theres always one person picking up all the left out drops. In between times they wait for the drops to appear they kill monsters around. All with similar stats too.
awesome! i love how jagex actually helps you in this, death to all bots!!! botting is cybercrime
This game is just printing currency out of thin air. Earning money from a game and then selling it. It's wicked. I feel like the owners of rs do inside jobs of producing trillions of gold in game and selling it for real money. Wicked I tell you!
@@andrespatino2761 It already happened. Look into the story of why rev caves were made
I bet a few of the top gold sites on google are actually owned by jagex
@@MxM.Aimbotz They certainly give some private servers a "Free pass", probably recieve payments from them.
@@andrespatino2761 ikr, like imagine making money off other people's business or making money off of your boss, humanity is so corrupted
i have been grinding moss giants for the champions scroll in the kourend dungeon, i usually see people in full granite run through. around 40 - 60 cb multiple worlds multiple times multiple accounts
imagine 50bots like these + all the bots in the common botting spots n u'll realise how sad osrs is KEKL
Maaaan I’m telling ya, nobody plays osrs 😕 the player count’s boosted by bots fr
@@nx47 One of the highest subscribed gaming subreddits on reddit, but yeah nobody plays it because Marika Tachibana says so.
You realise there's still like 120-130k players on peak lmao. Millions of real players still play osrs monthly, hardly "sad"
thats why i play ironman, because no matter how much bots crash an economy, im just happy chopping me logs and blowing glass lmao
More than half of that player count are bots and people logged in with multiple accounts like pures and gp generators 😂 Dan more like deep denial dan
"DIO_420_69" ah a man of culture
My personal favourite was "Stoney Wizard"
Kono dio
There are around 15-30 accounts on f2p that were botting hill giants, they are almost on every world. They have this weird behavior of going to the safespot near the obor entrance before teleing/logging. There are also a huge amount of bots with rpg on edge monastery that were training defence by kicking the monks. Some even had 80 ish defence but level 1 on other combat skills
You should do a video on all the bots at Puro Puro. It’s ridiculous...
Agree it’s so bad!
That last bot farm is probably botters testing things like how the bot detection system works or whether they can use bots in bulk (like how all of them logged out at once, and how groups of them logged in at the same time afterwards). Using level 3 accounts with nothing makes sense too since they lose nothing if the accounts get banned and they're likely gaining some information with each of the bots
I love how jagex waits for Pugger to report bot farms to them for almost an entire month without banning the bots. Wonder what it would be like if they banned them all every day, I mean they know where they are.
So im in a group of Facebook that say the level 4 bots are made and sold in bulk to bot farms, this saving the bot farms alot of time from making new accounts, supposedly averaging between 30-40 usd per 100 bots sold in bulk, logging in and out of different accounts in bulk is the creators ensuring none have been tarnished before making a sale.
Theory: low level bots in the church are activated to help hide gold traders account names.. most likely trading their gold to buyers in the church & instead of having just the gold seller and the buyer, they activate this low level bot farm to help hide the activity
I think you nailed it.. there probably timer rotation through all there bots, before they massive sell the bots to other botters, with them being ready to trade
doing the community a great service pugger, keep it up :)
you should check out the fishing trawler, so many bots with identical stats on there when i was getting outfit. most with 80+ fishing.
There's an argument that more bots are created by the distribution of these methods than bots get deleted. I still enjoy the content though.
"if you see something suspicious, say something suspicious" - Eric Andre
That’s where I used to drop trade 20 years ago 😂
Dude same. How could they taint our childhoods like this?
Have never seen a Micro Center sponsorship, great company. Congrats on the offer!
I was about to say: “Jagex, give this man a job!”
Then I realized, he’d be making less lol. Still, dude puts more time into busting the bot community than all of the bot busters at Jamflex.
Do you really believe that he does a better job? Do you really? Or you just want what Kool Aid is left from his PP? “Jamflex” busts thousands of bots a day my guy finds a couple of bot farms for a video or two that is uploaded so he can make money from it
@@Fake_Disciple “or you just want kool aid is left from his PP?” Don’t do drugs, kid. Stay in school.
@@Fake_Disciple also, didn’t say he does a better job. Said he spends more time bot busting than them, as in going out of his way reach out and doing research to actively find hidden communities, rather than write an anti-macro script that does all the work for you IF the perpetrator performs the actions in a specific way, which is EASILY worked around with randomized actions to make it seem like human error as a bot. You clown.
A bot farm constantly trades Zaff (stave's store in center Varrock)
Vyrewatch Sentinels has some bots in monk robes, max combats in d boots and glories (hacked accounts). Seems the monk robe bots evolved as they were very easy to get stuck. These are blood shard farms, gold farms, idk, but make big money. Many never talk.
A friend said some of the bots said "I'm the sherrif around these parts" lol
MLM, woodcutting guild, bots
The bots at the end are just trying to find Jesus.
Idk what a Jesus is. But Saradomin, definitely!
Father Aereck needs attendance in his church anyway so the Duke doesn't shut it down.
@@CharonOTRS Jesus watches over them too
Repent for their botting man
Free to play bots farming random events
9:26 They're just standing there... MENACINGLY.
9:30
I know exactly what this is. This is name expansion.
So, how do you circumnavigate a limit? You find a way around, or through. The limit here is that someone is likely figuring out a new name format to being *PUMPING* out bots. If you test by creating X per world and log in / out, it has a higher chance of updating your play time / standard name check.
If the 4 number 6 character 2 number name system is being called out for being too "botlike", it could be pretty simple to create bots with names similar to regular RSNs based on a few parameters (like replacing specific characters from a semi-rng name splicing alg, so "Deep_Fried69" would become "D3EP_Fr13dbg" or some similar combination, basically makes 1 realistic name into many many realistic names)
So in other words, get your unique usernames now, new formats are being explored, which means maaaaaaaaassive bot explosion on the horizon. Could be that a hard to detect botting method is being explored further and more resources are being funnelled into it as well.
I’m surprised Jagex ain’t give this man an invitation to come work for they headquarters
Hes doing it for free. So why would they?
@@DavyDave1313 it’s a joke lol
When I was a preteen/teenager I use to go to dumb spots in RuneScape. I remember one time I met some randoms and we were role playing in the varrock inn. Game use to be a lot different back in the day when the expectations for games wasn’t that high and a good chunk of people were on a dial up connection lmao. Neopets, RuneScape and neverwinter nights were the first games I played online.
But I agree now. You don’t expect people to be on the varrock wall by the West Bank.
when you see someone go to church in 2021: ''well they must be bots!''
Thanks for featuring my tipoff. Bots in lumbrige church. There alot bots in varrock filling jugs of water east varrock osrs free worlds, and them some buying more noted jugs general store and. Other farm few buying runes in the varrock rune shop
Couple weeks ago I teled to falador on w533, guards said there was a drop party. I ran to the party room, and there were two people in there. I popped a ballon and got 3m in platinum tokens. Some type of rwt?
Yes! Clever too!
@@andrespatino2761 Lmao clever??? Not at all dude.
@@dustyroflman8926 that's better then risking getting caught and getting your accounts banned and all $ taken. With this yes there's a chance someone can come and take some loot but less chance of being caught by jagex. Like with trading mules and shit they can track you. With the party you don't need to trade so won't get tracked.
What's better. Losing some money or losing everything and accounts. C'mon man. Look at the bigger picture son.
@@andrespatino2761 They can still track you through the party room. - They can track people through the duel arena and it’s the same concept
@@andrespatino2761 they can still be tracked, in this video he was literally just talking about bots getting caught drop trading supplies to the bots, and then there’s the high chance that other people will show up and steal some of the money. Idk if I even believe that this happened but if it is true it’s a really stupid idea, or just some rich people having fun
That massive last bot farm is just a portion of the process for the "account creating" bot.
Love the content brotha keep it up!! You're helping the game out more than you know :D
This is exactly what Jagex needs to do about the ingame bot problem
Journalist: So jagex, we hear you're bot detection methods are some of the best in the industry, how does it work?
Jagex: yes, its amazing, we can't talk much about it, but we can tell you what its called, we call it...PirSugger!
sir pugger the best anti-bot software
That last group of bots is probably someone doing load testing on their new server setup
but why cant jagex figure this shit out themselves like?
Tbh would you rather update a game or spend days to just find a few bot farms
because bots makes money for them, they only want to take action when the bot is complete and have been operational for couple of days to motivate the botter to create a new set of bots, if they would get perma'd on day of creation then non would bot and they would lose big bucks.
@@casualBob7 how do the bots make money for them? they get 7 free days membership then they just buy bonds people have paid for with gp(they would sell more bonds if people couldn't buy from gold farmers, and gold farmers sell a lot of gp)
Hi mr Pugger! There is bot farm probably in varrock. They are lvl80-95 with granite armour on, spiny helmet and leaf blade or whip (high melee stats and like 42-50 slayer). Mostly saw them on world that i play in W377-378. They use the varrock fountain tele and go to varrock west bank. I see atleast 4-5 different character every hour. I report all of them, but I let you choose if you want to investigate on that farm :)
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good day to you Sir!
Man, out here ratting on the bots. Lol
Regarding the bots in the chapel, could they be testing against anti-bot measures?
If I were trying to determine the exact conditions required to trigger Jagex's detection, this would be one of the first methods I would try. By limiting all other variables (location, level, activity), with enough accounts they could reconstruct the detection criteria, and determine validity of various anti-anti-bot strategies by determining which ones are banned.
The F2P bots, could they just be racking up game play time to go more undetected when they start their duties?
The one in lumby, are they maybe a distraction so the detection system might go for them first or overload the system with a lot of bots so theirs has a higher chance of not being detected?
I just leave my bots swapping world's in the church to confuse people. That one serves no purpose.
Sir pugger, you made me over 30m just from finding a bot farm and taking their gold. Keep these videos coming brother!
this guy lied in his promotion message
Happens often. Sponsorblock is your friend.
Bro he comes up with Opera GX too like if is "safe to use" it's just simply spyware because it's in Chinese hands nowadays....
The last one you found is a bot farm farm. They are booking enough playable hours so there is no trade restrictions with the GE. Than selling the accounts to people that are boting.
And here I’m struggling to get my first Mil 😂
That last bot farm I dont think it would be anything to do with playtime restrictions because it would seem more logical to be farming gold in that time. I personally think the script they were using wasnt working (My guess a quest script as that where the restless ghost start is and thats part of the ftp restrictions) and the owner hasnt realised. When all the bots logged out and back in this is most likely the AFK timer logging them out and then the bot client logging them back in again.
Why aren't you killing bots anymore? Just hearing you talk about how much money they made gets kinda boring after a while...