I was looking for natural predators to raise and feed Spotted Lantern Fly too. Then I went down one of the most fascinating rabbit (koi hole doesn’t sound right lol) holes I’ve ever gone down lol
Could you film an update of how these turned out?? An update to see the growth and how pattern has changed would be so wonderful to compare against this one!💗
I'd love more videos where you compare good vs bad examples of a particular trait and how you weight them in the decision to cull. For example, when you say good white, what's an example of bad white. I'd love to see how these fish turned out! I know it's lobster time, but maybe you can make a second koi channel.
This was so interesting. Your voice and knowledge are perfect for this kind of educating. Thank you for taking the time to teach us about Koi! I loved it.
sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly forgot the account password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@Demetrius Jaylen I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Found it stressful but fun personally, but I get why someone would find it relaxing. I just got weirdly invested in which fish would make it to the next round.
I was picking all the wrong fish when you asked. “What do you see in this net?” Lol 😂 But it’s fun learning. So fascinating! 👍✌️From Delaware And Cheers! 🍺
I learned more from this video about quality than from the last 3 years keeping koi and being fobbed off by dealers overstating the attributes of their stock. Thank you
I found your videos from RUclips recommendations (The store-bought Lobster Video). I really like your balance of music than commentary. It's relaxing and enjoyable. Thank you for making these videos.
It would be nice if you explained what a heat plate is, as well as exactly what the different types of koi your looking for are, and what makes them this specific kind
I believe he is saying 'Hi plate'. 'Hi' (pronounced Hee) refers to the red coloration in Koi. I may be wrong but I did a lot of googling to figure it out myself and realized I was looking into Japanese hobbies using English words and came to this conclusion after adjusting what my ears were hearing. I think the 'plate' part refers to solid spots of color.
Very nice spawn those rejects look very good also, good job. I learn so much from watching your videos, I have two Japanese Kohaku in my main pond that starts to develop black spots, maybe they were from a Sanke spawn. I just started up a 600 gal pond and have an order coming Thursday. Buy I rally enjoyed your videos. Thank you
Rich yeah I did let a few very nice koi go to the ‘culls’ tank,... but space here these days is limited. Thank you for watching! ✌️✌️✌️ Much appreciated!
Honestly loved them all, I’d have a really hard time removing fish although I understand it needs to be done, Ive raised koi for more than 15 years but never successfully bred them until this year, I’ve had more time to concentrate on spawning, collecting and separating the eggs, they just started hatching out today, I’m looking forward to hopefully get some nice looking babies
@@onebilliontacos3405 That's harming them. If someone put you in a small space to force breed you with permission how would you feel? That's not a "pond". "But sold instead as pond fish" ~That's cruel.
@zyto Tem: you do relize these are DOMESTIC ICTHYS, right? They wont survive in the wild, they are not wild animals! They are like pet dogs and kitty cats. You CAN ACTUALLY pet them too. These are not wild orca, forced into ponds. They are domestic animals that have been cultured for thousands of years.
@@ParttimePilgrim That is all your opinion, and all you're doing is supporting cruelty. I don't care what you say, they are fishes that belong in the wild not with people. You know why they're domesticated? Because they're been forced away from their home taken an be bred and use for money, gain, greed and want to play God. And there is things and natural abilities are snatched away but it doesn't mean that the animals are dumb an all is gone. Just because they were domesticated by people, doesn't mean that it's okay to do those things to animals like that. They're not like dogs and cats because cats are also been forced. You can take the animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of an animal.. get it straight. And everything they're doing is cruel. Thousands is not even true. You're just spreading cruelty, hate and lies.
Another Nice and interesting clip, hope your are gonna do an update on the ''Breeding high quality koi with common carp'' I would love to see the result as of today. Thanks Brady keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching Karel,... The most recent update on the Carp cross is from just a couple of months ago,... It’s here on my RUclips channel. ✌️✌️✌️
10:53 Lobster whisperer: what do you see here in this net? Me: the whitish one? Maybe the large one with orange back? No no, the small one with dark patches. Lobster whisperer: I dont see anything. Me: Yah none of those are good.
Man I saw the word cull in the title and got worried. Only ever known it to mean killing the undesirable critters. Im glad the ones you dont want will be pond fish
This was so stressful to watch! In and interesting way, like America's Next Top Koi, who makes the cut?!? Glad the others are hopefully going to ponds. As a person who isn't too interested in show fish, but has always loved a beautiful and vibrant koi pond, they all looked cool and interesting to me
Very interesting. I have On the Koi Farm playlist, that its safe to say I have seen about 20 Times each video. It's good to see backyard aspect since I plan to get my feet wet in the hobby breeding.
Based on what you chose to keep, I don't have the eye for it. All of one that I think is pretty were not chosen and even thought that one of the chosen ones was ugly😆 But, the biggest that you have chosen is super pretty. Very pleasing to look at
Haaaaaaa yes I decided to go with the old-school music I used to use in the On The Farm videos. Thank you for watching. I hope you enjoyed your Italian liqueur. ✌️✌️✌️
@@Bradybrandwood I sure did! It's funny,, back when I first listened to Geodesium, I thought of outer space. Now, I think of huge, beautiful koi swimming! LOL! When I go out and watch my level of koi, I hear the Beverly Hillbillies theme!
Really enjoyed learning the process. Thank you for sharing. Is this recent or years ago? In another life I'd like to be a koi farmer. Wish I was young enough to change careers, lol. May I ask how you learned so much about the technicalities and intricacies of the hobby? Were you able to live and work in Japan? Thank you for your videos.
Hi Mac yeah this video is from this week’s culling. I bred professionally on my Koi farm for 14 years, so so much knowledge is absorbed in those years. I have also studied the history of Koi bloodlines and Koi lineages, so that is a huge part of the process.
Have you ever been to Fort Worth, TX? At our Botanic Garden, there is an absolutely beautiful, enormous koi pond in the Japanese garden section. It must have hundreds of koi and they’re all beautiful. It’s my favorite thing to do when I need a relaxing time - buy an enormous bag of fish food (they sell it at the entrance for this purpose) and just feed those koi for a couple hours.
Just here after watching Leon. I bet your RUclips is blowing up lol. That lobster is gonna get you many subscribers. Also your videos are very calming.
I adore the very busy patterned sankes, so it was very sad to see so many of them get removed. I had my eyes on a few that instantly got 'thrown out'. But I understand as a breeder and seller, and the person handling the fish, that you have much better of an eye for these sorts of things than I do. I do hope to get my hands on a few in the future. But I have a question, would Koi do well in a fish tank? I do not have the space for a pond where I live, but I do have plenty of room for a large tank is why I'm asking.
@@katelync712 Thank-you! I scooted down to the comments about 4 minutes in because I was worried about what happened to the 'rejects' - I can relax and watch the rest now!!
I tried this a few years ago and had some real potential coming on but my sisters horse got loose and drank most of them!….I had no idea but horses drink like an agua vac and just sucked em up so quickly! I was devastated, took a lot time , effort and money and get it set up and raise them and nearly all were lost 😭 At that point thought fuck it and put everything that was left back in the big pond to take its chances and still ended with a few beauties…one of them blue and white and is now a big ‘ol girl (no idea what that colour combo is called) and a couple of good sanke . Really did enjoy the initial stages of hatching and rearing them though.
I'm sitting here wondering where to by the ones that don't make the grade despite living in an apartment with no outdoor space or interest in maintaining huge tank 🤔
Fascinating. Almost therapeutic for me to watch. An awkward question: how exactly do you "cull" the rest? Not to be graphic and I have no agenda, just curious.
Hi Brady. Are there koi channels in particular that you like and follow? Would The Koi Partner be one of them? If you don't mind sharing, what channel, or books, or magazines if they exist anymore that you find yourself learning from? Thank you!
Hi Mac, I enjoy Mark's channel, and in particular I just enjoy studying harvest photos and footage these days. I used to devour the paperback Rinko magazines,... The Japanese writers were so good at sharing the meaty details of bloodline and cross history.
I don't know anything about Koi or what you were looking for. The ones you picked looked nice, but I don't know why the last four were more special. But many of your culls probably made other people happy with them in their pond.
Great video again.I have learned so much things from your past videos as a hobbiyest and a small backyard breeder.And waited for a new video since a long time.Much appriciated.I have noticed small thing in the video, some of the babys have gill curls.Is this due to a bloodline issue or lack of oxygen or any other.I have experience this in my last spawning.just curious to know.
Yeah that is something I meant to mention in the video but didn’t get around to. I feel the gill curls are caused by poor water quality, basically low oxygen, high bacteria content or fungus when the koi are very tiny. Another issue of operating in a very small space, but could be avoided with more frequent water changes, cleaner water higher oxygen, etc.
michael johnson1992 Yeah raising them in such a small amount of water definitely affects growth. If they had been grown at my farm they would have been much larger and more consistent in size at 10 months.
Well I got my baby koi order in but not the quality I was expecting Do you know of any koi farm/dealer in the US that would sell me TOSAI that was bred from Japanese parents Can’t seem to find any.
Welp, time to learn about koi for no reason but entertainment
Exactly
Right there with you, fellow sudden koi student
LoL 😂, prepping my future koi.
👍 yep:)
I was looking for natural predators to raise and feed Spotted Lantern Fly too. Then I went down one of the most fascinating rabbit (koi hole doesn’t sound right lol) holes I’ve ever gone down lol
Could you film an update of how these turned out?? An update to see the growth and how pattern has changed would be so wonderful to compare against this one!💗
They will all fail. Backyard breeders very rarely produce quality koi.
@@kirkhall2099 Dude, Brady has been breeding koi for around 20 years and has won multiple awards.
I'd love more videos where you compare good vs bad examples of a particular trait and how you weight them in the decision to cull. For example, when you say good white, what's an example of bad white.
I'd love to see how these fish turned out!
I know it's lobster time, but maybe you can make a second koi channel.
This was so interesting. Your voice and knowledge are perfect for this kind of educating. Thank you for taking the time to teach us about Koi! I loved it.
LL Cam Thank you,... and thank you for watching. ✌️✌️✌️
sorry to be offtopic but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the account password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@Rory Keanu instablaster =)
@Demetrius Jaylen I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Demetrius Jaylen it worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thanks so much you saved my account!
I never knew seeing a man sort fish from his backyard would be so relaxing!
Found it stressful but fun personally, but I get why someone would find it relaxing. I just got weirdly invested in which fish would make it to the next round.
@@bridgetcooney5085 Sounds like this could make an interesting and healthy alternative to dog fight betting.
Here for Leon. Staying because I never knew the beauty of Koi. Also your voice if very therapeutic
I was picking all the wrong fish when you asked. “What do you see in this net?”
Lol 😂
But it’s fun learning.
So fascinating!
👍✌️From Delaware
And Cheers! 🍺
I learned more from this video about quality than from the last 3 years keeping koi and being fobbed off by dealers overstating the attributes of their stock. Thank you
Great to hear. Thank you for watching. ✌️✌️✌️
I found your videos from RUclips recommendations (The store-bought Lobster Video). I really like your balance of music than commentary. It's relaxing and enjoyable. Thank you for making these videos.
It would be nice if you explained what a heat plate is, as well as exactly what the different types of koi your looking for are, and what makes them this specific kind
I believe he is saying 'Hi plate'. 'Hi' (pronounced Hee) refers to the red coloration in Koi. I may be wrong but I did a lot of googling to figure it out myself and realized I was looking into Japanese hobbies using English words and came to this conclusion after adjusting what my ears were hearing. I think the 'plate' part refers to solid spots of color.
@Ross Radford For 20 minutes, this is an excellent result.
I heard him say about the “nicely placed hi plate” so I googled it. If only you had access to the internet Red!
Very nice spawn those rejects look very good also, good job. I learn so much from watching your videos, I have two Japanese Kohaku in my main pond that starts to develop black spots, maybe they were from a Sanke spawn. I just started up a 600 gal pond and have an order coming Thursday. Buy I rally enjoyed your videos. Thank you
Rich yeah I did let a few very nice koi go to the ‘culls’ tank,... but space here these days is limited. Thank you for watching! ✌️✌️✌️ Much appreciated!
Honestly loved them all, I’d have a really hard time removing fish although I understand it needs to be done, Ive raised koi for more than 15 years but never successfully bred them until this year, I’ve had more time to concentrate on spawning, collecting and separating the eggs, they just started hatching out today, I’m looking forward to hopefully get some nice looking babies
Cruel
The fish get filled in this video aren’t harmed, but instead sold as pond fish. : )
@@onebilliontacos3405
That's harming them.
If someone put you in a small space to force breed you with permission how would you feel? That's not a "pond".
"But sold instead as pond fish" ~That's cruel.
@zyto Tem: you do relize these are DOMESTIC ICTHYS, right? They wont survive in the wild, they are not wild animals! They are like pet dogs and kitty cats. You CAN ACTUALLY pet them too. These are not wild orca, forced into ponds. They are domestic animals that have been cultured for thousands of years.
@@ParttimePilgrim
That is all your opinion, and all you're doing is supporting cruelty. I don't care what you say, they are fishes that belong in the wild not with people.
You know why they're domesticated? Because they're been forced away from their home taken an be bred and use for money, gain, greed and want to play God. And there is things and natural abilities are snatched away but it doesn't mean that the animals are dumb an all is gone.
Just because they were domesticated by people, doesn't mean that it's okay to do those things to animals like that.
They're not like dogs and cats because cats are also been forced.
You can take the animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of an animal.. get it straight. And everything they're doing is cruel.
Thousands is not even true. You're just spreading cruelty, hate and lies.
Another Nice and interesting clip, hope your are gonna do an update on the ''Breeding high quality koi with common carp'' I would love to see the result as of today. Thanks Brady keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching Karel,... The most recent update on the Carp cross is from just a couple of months ago,... It’s here on my RUclips channel. ✌️✌️✌️
question: isn't "common carp" just a goldfish, with or with spotted marking/pattern?
This is amazing content. Always looking for Parents and end result videos
Awesome! Thank you for checking it out.
10:53
Lobster whisperer: what do you see here in this net?
Me: the whitish one? Maybe the large one with orange back? No no, the small one with dark patches.
Lobster whisperer: I dont see anything.
Me: Yah none of those are good.
Spot on 😂 Exactly how I felt whilst watching this 😂
Subject: picking bling fish.
Everyone: this is relevant to our interests.
The more of these I watch the more I have no clue what you are looking for but I enjoy it anyways
Lol I thought I read your mind because the first you pick also stood out to me!
Man I saw the word cull in the title and got worried. Only ever known it to mean killing the undesirable critters. Im glad the ones you dont want will be pond fish
a fascinating process to watch; I just don't see what you are seeing (I'm not a koi afficionado) but I'm anxious to see their growth outcomes
This was so stressful to watch! In and interesting way, like America's Next Top Koi, who makes the cut?!?
Glad the others are hopefully going to ponds. As a person who isn't too interested in show fish, but has always loved a beautiful and vibrant koi pond, they all looked cool and interesting to me
Thank you fir helpin to teach what all there is to look for n what to look past
Very interesting. I have On the Koi Farm playlist, that its safe to say I have seen about 20 Times each video. It's good to see backyard aspect since I plan to get my feet wet in the hobby breeding.
Rey Very cool! Thank you for watching. ✌️✌️✌️
Great to see you putting up new videos. Hope there are more to come.
A fan from India
Thank you for watching Vinay V!
Based on what you chose to keep, I don't have the eye for it. All of one that I think is pretty were not chosen and even thought that one of the chosen ones was ugly😆 But, the biggest that you have chosen is super pretty. Very pleasing to look at
Can you do a video of the same fish as they age to show how they change?
Fascinating, I would over keep with too many high hopes
Yeah, it is definitely so difficult to just pick a few.
"What do you see in this net?" I start calling out like it's Dora the Explorer.
I just love your videos. Please keep posting them and thank you for sharing your thought and thought process.
Thank you Ed, and thanks for watching.
I love this video, I just wish I could get as good at identification.
Very interesting to watch, and the music is always my favorite. This was very relaxing to watch and enjoy with some Italian liqueur. ;)
Haaaaaaa yes I decided to go with the old-school music I used to use in the On The Farm videos. Thank you for watching. I hope you enjoyed your Italian liqueur. ✌️✌️✌️
@@Bradybrandwood I sure did! It's funny,, back when I first listened to Geodesium, I thought of outer space. Now, I think of huge, beautiful koi swimming! LOL! When I go out and watch my level of koi, I hear the Beverly Hillbillies theme!
Kim Dawes You’re cracking me up!!! 😄✌️✌️✌️
🤔What makes the difference between a koi and a colored carp from the same spawn?
The orange patern on the body will turn red? And dark pattern have a chance to disappear? Oh wow 🤔🤔
I don't know anything about this hobby, but what happens to the fish that aren't chosen? Do you keep them or get rid of them?
Really enjoyed learning the process. Thank you for sharing. Is this recent or years ago? In another life I'd like to be a koi farmer. Wish I was young enough to change careers, lol. May I ask how you learned so much about the technicalities and intricacies of the hobby? Were you able to live and work in Japan? Thank you for your videos.
Hi Mac yeah this video is from this week’s culling. I bred professionally on my Koi farm for 14 years, so so much knowledge is absorbed in those years. I have also studied the history of Koi bloodlines and Koi lineages, so that is a huge part of the process.
I WANT your garden quality culls!
man you make this look so intresting yet so much more difficult then i already thoguht it was but it still makes me want to get itno koi breeding
I’m growing mine out rn and doing research before I spawn them but I keep many kinds of goldfish and cichlids
Hey Brady, could we get an update on the keepers? Also, what are you looking for in a "he-plate"? Is this the black spot in between the eyes?
do you ever eat the rejects
😆
Have you ever been to Fort Worth, TX? At our Botanic Garden, there is an absolutely beautiful, enormous koi pond in the Japanese garden section. It must have hundreds of koi and they’re all beautiful. It’s my favorite thing to do when I need a relaxing time - buy an enormous bag of fish food (they sell it at the entrance for this purpose) and just feed those koi for a couple hours.
Little spray paint and those other fish would’ve fit right in
Just here after watching Leon. I bet your RUclips is blowing up lol. That lobster is gonna get you many subscribers. Also your videos are very calming.
I adore the very busy patterned sankes, so it was very sad to see so many of them get removed. I had my eyes on a few that instantly got 'thrown out'. But I understand as a breeder and seller, and the person handling the fish, that you have much better of an eye for these sorts of things than I do. I do hope to get my hands on a few in the future. But I have a question, would Koi do well in a fish tank? I do not have the space for a pond where I live, but I do have plenty of room for a large tank is why I'm asking.
To the best of my knowledge, he doesn’t kill the ones he doesn’t pick. So, no fish are being harmed.
@@MazeOfClover yes, he says he sells the culls as pond fish :-)
Koi get way to big for an indoor tank, think 500g. A fantail Goldie should have around 30g a fish, a single tail needs more like 40 per fish.
@@katelync712 Thank-you! I scooted down to the comments about 4 minutes in because I was worried about what happened to the 'rejects' - I can relax and watch the rest now!!
Interesting how the keep bucket looks really nice and we'll put together and the cull bucket not so much.
How can there be such a huge size difference in the same spawn?
Would you not want all the huge ones ?
It’s rare that a huge one has the color quality of the smaller siblings though.
I really love this video
There's one you threw out that I would have really wanted to keep. Oh well...c'est la vie.
Love your videos👍
Awesome!!! Thank you for watching! ✌️✌️✌️
I tried this a few years ago and had some real potential coming on but my sisters horse got loose and drank most of them!….I had no idea but horses drink like an agua vac and just sucked em up so quickly! I was devastated, took a lot time , effort and money and get it set up and raise them and nearly all were lost 😭
At that point thought fuck it and put everything that was left back in the big pond to take its chances and still ended with a few beauties…one of them blue and white and is now a big ‘ol girl (no idea what that colour combo is called) and a couple of good sanke . Really did enjoy the initial stages of hatching and rearing them though.
the horse *drank* the koi?!
I’m dying to know how these lil guys turned out!!!
Excellent video. Thanks!
Again, thank you for watching. Always fun connecting with other koi keepers. ✌️✌️✌️
Come to indonesia sir..we love koi
I think all of them were pretty .
Thanks Robyn, and thank you for watching. ✌️✌️✌️
I'm sitting here wondering where to by the ones that don't make the grade despite living in an apartment with no outdoor space or interest in maintaining huge tank 🤔
Fascinating. Almost therapeutic for me to watch.
An awkward question: how exactly do you "cull" the rest? Not to be graphic and I have no agenda, just curious.
I think it was mentioned he sells the cull as pond fish rather than killing them
hi Brady. How can u tell colored carp from top of pyramd fish when they are fingerling size?
To an extent yes.
Do you ever do tours? Seeing these fish in person would be neat. Great video.
Not these days. Yes seeing high quality koi in person is a great way to calibrate the eye for good fish. Thank you for watching.
What do you do with the ones you don't want?
I give them to a friend who has a pond building business.
I know I ask you this on another video but do you ever sell your calls?
14:28 if u look at the bottom right of the net, there's a sanke without a tail :(
Yes, that was a deformity I meant to show and mention,... but forgot to.
Its been 3 years, please let us know the results of these koi. - a friend of Leon. 💖🌞🌵😷
Brady it's time for an update 👍
Hi Brady. Are there koi channels in particular that you like and follow? Would The Koi Partner be one of them? If you don't mind sharing, what channel, or books, or magazines if they exist anymore that you find yourself learning from? Thank you!
Hi Mac, I enjoy Mark's channel, and in particular I just enjoy studying harvest photos and footage these days. I used to devour the paperback Rinko magazines,... The Japanese writers were so good at sharing the meaty details of bloodline and cross history.
I don't know anything about Koi or what you were looking for. The ones you picked looked nice, but I don't know why the last four were more special. But many of your culls probably made other people happy with them in their pond.
i honestly have no idea what makes koi better or worse
i think that almost all of them look good
How old is the koi before you can see his/her potential?
When you say Becko do you mean Shiro Utsuri?
Hi, by Bekko I mean basically Sanke with no red. Shirt Utsuri shares the same characteristics as Showa, Bekko same characteristics as Sanke.
Do you ship koi
Not these days
Great video again.I have learned so much things from your past videos as a hobbiyest and a small backyard breeder.And waited for a new video since a long time.Much appriciated.I have noticed small thing in the video, some of the babys have gill curls.Is this due to a bloodline issue or lack of oxygen or any other.I have experience this in my last spawning.just curious to know.
Yeah that is something I meant to mention in the video but didn’t get around to. I feel the gill curls are caused by poor water quality, basically low oxygen, high bacteria content or fungus when the koi are very tiny. Another issue of operating in a very small space, but could be avoided with more frequent water changes, cleaner water higher oxygen, etc.
@@Bradybrandwood thanku very much.I thought the same rather than bloodline.
Sir, how many months were these kois during the culling?
Kim Diate That was about 10 months.
Brady Brandwood that’s good to know certain people are saying this size would be a couple months old
michael johnson1992 Yeah raising them in such a small amount of water definitely affects growth. If they had been grown at my farm they would have been much larger and more consistent in size at 10 months.
Brady Brandwood for sure I appreciate your videos
Rico suave
Any update??
What you will do with the culls?
Yeah I give the culls to a friend that has a garden pond building business.
Hello What is breeder parents you put together so you all nice baby like this ? Thank you ! please I love to learn educate me !
"He plate" ??? is that what you said ? What is that ?
Hi plate - the black underneath that’s barely showing
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hhaha rico suave from a filipino movie
cool
Well I got my baby koi order in but not the quality I was expecting
Do you know of any koi farm/dealer in the US that would sell me TOSAI that was bred from Japanese parents
Can’t seem to find any.
You might check with Beni Hanna Nishikigoi in NJ, or Purdin Koi in Baton Rouge.
Brady Brandwood ok thanks
i don't even know what I'm watching anymore. Why am clicking on koi fish breeding???
Why is the comment section turned off for the worst mom of the year goose babies video that's not at all related to a kids content
uday shetkar That video is owned by a company in LA now.
@@Bradybrandwood ohh okay, did they copystrike you?
uday shetkar No, they bought the rights from me.
@@Bradybrandwood okay
Those silly sankes
Why dont you sell them instead of culling then people would buy those beautiful fish ..I would it's a waste of the life of the fish and time.
Yeah I give the culls to a friend that has a garden pond building business.