ao true! Why can the higher models not have at least the options that the lower models have? Just make the C500 II a C300 III with full frame and charge 5k more.. No, you always have to choose one over the other
Hi. - just want to say thank you for talking about the things we actually use as well as some of the top-end features. A really good way of understanding the camera without the USP nonsense that the manufacturer spits out. Like, testing out the lower bit rates - yesssssssss. Yes. Thank you.
Exactly what I wanted to see. I am in market for my first "cinema" camera body, away from hybrids and dslr, this is the sort of real life feedback we want!
Great review, thanks for that. I'd been agonising over upgrading from my trusty C100 to a C70 or this, in the end I've gone for the C300 mark iii. Looking forward to getting shooting with it in the coming weeks.
Matt Bastos Still think it gives it a pretty odd look to have that much NR applied so I’d save 102,400 for emergencies. Nice to know you can go there though
! Exactly the review I was looking for. Thanks so much for taking the time it took to put this together. Thoughtful, pragmatic and just the right balance of info and eye tests. . Would love to see more of these from you all in the future.
what a great in depth video. I've found with my C200 that in RAW the noise is huge. Even at 800 iso and ABB after every time I white balance and change iso etc. It's been a bit of a challenge for sure. Perhaps the c300 is the answer to that. I don't know.
Natural Gallant Bodybuilding I always found clog2 raw was pretty tough going on the C200 but clog3 was great. However then you aren’t seeing the additional dynamic range benefit. All of our shooting in this video was in Clog2 and it looked really clean which is good news
I own a C300mkii. From what I've read online and contrary to what Canon states, it's native ISO is closer to 500. Again, this was for the MKii but it may be applicable to the 500mkii and C300mkiii. Who knows.🤷♂️
Best video by far of all I watched until now about C300 mark III. Congratulations for the good work. It would be great to see a deep explanation and test about the dynamc range in skin tones. And compare it aswell with the C500 mii. It would be great aswell to see it in action with an Atlas Orion. Another cool idea for a next vid: it would be great a comparassion with a Red Camera on the dynamic range aspect and overall cinematic feeling (cause I think Canon right now has improved a lot). Great channel. New sub :) Cheers from Spain
Marten Kählert Yeah when we were shooting with the LUT on we weren’t sure of the results, but as soon as we got it up on the computer screen the difference was really clear
You killed this review. I'm switching back to Canon from Sony and jumping into the C series cameras and I was on the fence between the C500II and the C300III and this, BY FAR, is the best review available. If you have any more information (before the $13,000 leaves my account to BHPHOTO) on the C300III please do another video. The DGO and the 120FPS @ 4K were the big decision factors for me.
Great video! Love seeing the footage & dynamic range from C300iii. A quite note, with RED, R3D Code Raw, you can change the compression, 6:1, 8:1, 10:1, etc, but not the data rate, as it is variable. Your footage is amazing, thank you.
Great review. The c300 Mark 3 seems like it's a nice middle ground but it's such a weird market? It competes with the FX9 in a way but after you get it rigged up, you're looking at almost 15K-20K.
Daymian Mejia Yeah the costs can add up a bit more with the canon cams. However they do have a few more higher end features than the FX9 which feels a bit more firmly aimed at a TV market. The internal raw and PL options for the C300III mean it could very easily be a feature doco camera or used in commercials in the same space as the Alexa, where the FX9 probably isn’t going to cut it
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Very true. Thank you for the input. Certainly something I'm going to consider later in the year after RED releases their Komodo and Blackmagic (hopefully) unveils what they may be working on!
I'm a little saddened that you didn't do a highlight roloff test, since that is where digital cameras struggle the most, and I consider it the most important aspect
SENOJ Productions Thanks mate. To be honest I’m loving my C500II and given some of my favourite things about it are the same design elements that carry across to the C300III, I’m pretty happy sticking with my C500. At the end of the day they’re both great cams so best to think about which feature you’ll want to use more (120/180fps+DGO, or full frame)
Just depends on what your needs are. As well as raw, the C300 is a bit easier to use on the shoulder with larger lenses as well as it’s got more of a traditional form factor. If neither of those are a priority the C70 is pretty fantastic!
Super great review of C300! How does the C300 S35 crop factor affect your shooting compared to C500 FF? That's probably my only concern with C300 (and I cannot afford C500 as I run a very very very small production only). Thanks and once again - great review!
Thanks! I find the full frame really useful for interview setups especially on the C500MKII, but there are a lot more Super 35mm lens options out there which suit the C300MKIII. Combine that with the 4K 120p and the C300MKIII is the better option for a lot of users
At the moment with the shooting Im doing the full frame is really handy so I'd probably still go with the C500MKII. But honestly I feel like either camera is a pretty great bet, so just think about what feature you need the most (120/180fps v full frame) and make your decision based off that I'd say.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus So, looking into the near future, would a C300MkIII and a full frame R5 cover all your needs for documentary filming? Also, really nice review - thanks!
Going from MK2, in-camera IS is a big change and something I am really curious about. Since I do a lot of handheld work, I've been using mostly lenses with IS. But you don't recommend using the in-camera IS with non IS lenses? Fantastic review btw. Thanks.
You can use the in-camera IS with non IS lenses if you want, I just find it introduces a bit of a smoothness that I can find looks unnatural. Not everyone feels the same way though so worth a test for yourself to see what suits you
Furkan Karaaslan It’d be handy for sure, but I get why the two cameras are different. At the end of the day just got to figure out which features are going to be more useful to you and go that way
Looks like they added support of XF-AVC Long GOP and XF-AVC Proxy format to the C500MKii. Now time to figure out if FF is that important or if we'd rather have a better picture which might be negligible to the untrained eye. I feel that most will go for the C300MKiii because its not a huge change in workflow to those already working with super 35. Did going back to a smaller sensor make you feel any at all limited?
I've had a lot of time using the C200 and C300MKII so it was pretty straightforward going back to Super 35. Full frame is amazing, but the features they've put in to the C300MKIII are useful enough to make it a proper contest between the two cameras. I actually think deciding on what lenses you want to be using/can afford is probably a good way to help make the decision.
The FX6 is a pretty amazing little camera but if you're after something at the price point and want to go Canon the C70 is great. With the 0.71 adapter it effectively gives you the best of both in terms of full frame and super35
Excellent review on the Canon 300 III and 500 II - my question to you - for what type of films would you prefer the feature of 120/180fps or full frame?
mageefilms very much down to personal preference. Have a think about what your filming needs are, which feature you’d find more useful and what your budget is. That’s probably the best way to decide.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thank you for your feedback. I agree, it really depends on your personal preference. Like you I bought a C 500 MK II early this year and tested it since then a lot. 6K, full sensor ... the camera is state of the art. The only missing feature is the framerate (4K 100fps) of the new C 300 MK III. I think Canon should have announced, that 2 cameras were to come out within only 6 month time. Most likely I will get the C 300 III as well. - Wish you good luck with your productions!
@@Lafayettehillstudios After having tested the C 300 MK III definately the C 500 MK II. I prefer the full sensor over the higher framerate. The C 500 sensor to me is more adult. Hopefully Black Magic Pocket 6k will come out with a new low priced 6 K Camera with a 4K RAW 120 fps solution as a backup camera. Wouldn't be surprised. Canon C300 MKIII competes against the Sony PXW-FX9 - wish they had come out with a better and higher priced camera, perhaps C 300 III 500 II in one.
Great review sir. Great review of this camera. Talk about a performer. I didn't think the day would come that other brands would do as well as the A7S but that day has arrived. (:
One of the best reviews ever on this youtube space! Please post more! Also, I have a question! How does the canon cinema series c500m2/c300 m3 stand against RED cameras?
Thanks! It’s hard to say because all the cameras have their own strengths and weaknesses. Canon typically weren’t competing with RED on things like frame rate and resolution but that looks like it’s changing now.
Yes, I can agree with that point! But I am really looking forward to make a good investment in the a cinema camera! I live in Nothern India, here the RED/Arri is used a lot. But, no one care about the Canon Cinema line-up where as the results coming straight from a C500 is way better than what they are producing! That's why I am confused, Should I go for a camera I have heard a lot about or the camera that has the market value around me?
On the C300MKIII? It wasnt too apparent while shooting but as soon as we got it up on the monitor we realised it was a pretty big difference, even with the C500 in full frame mode
Hi Dave and James, I just wanted to say thanks for the excellent camera review. I've been working my C300 MKII ridiculously hard for the past 5 years and while it'll still keep producing client content, I'm torn between the C500 Mark II and C300 Mark III for an upcoming short film. After your video review and seeing the footage you were able to get I'm pretty certain I'm going with the C300 Mark III. Although I love the full-frame look of the C500II and the possibility of native anamorphic, I think the C300 Mark III is going to be more flexible for the day to day bread and butter shoots. In your video you mentioned the C300III having anamorphic desqueeze as well, have you had a chance to play with that at all? Best, Dare
Thanks for the comment and the email Dare, will respond properly via email but generally Id say it really is down to personal preference. The cameras perform really similarly so the question is mostly do you need 120fps 4K/180 fps HD and have Super 35 lenses? Or do you want Full Frame and the option of 5.9k. Its not an easy choice but reckon you'll be happy whichever way you go
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Yep. Gear agony syndrome. C70 vs C300III vs C500II. Really want that full-frame extra field of view, but honestly the biggest point after watching your video a couple more times is the supposed boost of DR in the C300III. Do you see a huge difference in low-light situations? Thanks also for the email. Responding there.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus I decided to grab the C70 to hold me over and once the RF version of the C500 II makes it way to market I'll spring for that. Thanks so much for your comments which helped me figure it out. Just got the C70 and am currently scouring the world to find the Canon EF to RF .71 adapter so I can put my glass on it. Sigh....
Great video! Is it true you can't use the viewfinder at the same time as the monitor? Also don't you wish they would switch the audio level controls and the media slots around? Seems redundant having easy access to memory cards vs levels.
Monitor and viewfinder work simultaneously, no problems there. At first I was really annoyed that the C500MKII's audio controls were on that side, but then I got used to it. When Im shooting handheld theyre actually in a better spot for me around that side because I dont have to move the camera away from my body to adjust, and if it's a sit-down interview it doesnt matter too much. Less than ideal but not the end of the world.
I stand in between to buy the c300 mark iii or c500 mark ii. I shoot a lot of documentary style, interviews and events plus some commercial films. What should I go for? Nice video :-)
Vetle Eggen thanks! Either camera will suit your needs by the sound of things, will just be down to which feature you think you’d use more between the full frame and the 120/180fps as they’re probably the biggest differences
Vetle Eggen depends on the project. If you were filming drama for a streaming service, filming 2:1 anamorphic and needed to deliver the highest resolution file, having 5.9k could be the reason to use this camera over everything else. For documentary shooting where file size is more of a concern it might be less practical
Andrew Mayo have been able to get it to work on a Ronin S, but looks like there are some new stick gimbals coming to market soon that might be even better
Great video mate, Loving the look of the C300 mk iii - Do you know if the camera supports external raw recording, to an atomos or similar recorder? Cheers.
Brett Walker Not that I’m aware of. Canon have gone in on making the internal raw light the best bet for their raw. On the c200 people came up with adapters that would let you use an ssd drive in the Cfast slot, so it’s possible someone will develop something similar here
Great video! - Thanks for that. - I‘m looking for really good LUT‘s for c300 Mark III. I saw in your video, that you had import some of this. Where can I find this?? ... Marc
Both Canon and Arri have links to their LUTS on the websites, but Lumetri in Premiere and Resolve both have a lot of the standard LUTs built in which is handy
Great review! Thank you. I noticed a shot of the C300mkiii on your Ronin-S at 1:41. How did you find using it on a one-handed gimbal? Would you use it for a shoot?
Great video I’m debating on purchasing a Canon C300 Mark 2, Sony FS7 Mark 2 or wait and purchase the C300 mark 3. Is there that big a difference in these? I use Sony mostly but the prices have dropped for the first 2 cameras I mentioned equally and I’m sure the Mark 3 will be a huge difference. Thanks in advance.
Chef Monstro Lots of big differences between all 3 of the cameras you’ve mentioned. If you can afford it I’d go with the newer cameras as personally I find camera technology changes very quick and investing in a 5+ year old camera body might mean you need to upgrade again sooner than you’d like. It’s all down to personal preference and budget though
Tall Story Films yeah my buddy came down and has the z cam I’m really impressed with the look and feel of it I think I’m gonna actually buy the zcam f8 or f6 the resolution is gorgeous
There's a lot to like about both cameras, but personally my pick is the C300MKIII. I've always found it easier to get good results with the Canon series cameras and there are a couple of things about the FX9 that wouldnt suit the way I like to work. I also have a lot of EF lenses and personally have never loved having to use adapters as have had a few issues with them in the past.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thanks for the quick reply :) I'm definitely becoming more swayed with the C300... looks like a great camera to operate. I think I'll wait till more videos crop up and hopefully I'll get the chance to try both out. I'm just really disappointed with the lack of frame rate options with the FX9 and how slow it is to change, although I do love the look of the new venice colour science.
@@cameron.vickers Theres a few C300/500 and fx9 user facebook groups out there that could be worth a follow if you're after more info. Couple of other quirks with the FX9 Ive heard people coming across and the owners in those groups can probably give you some practical info about them.
First of all - thank you for a great review of the upcoming camera. At 04:19 you've pointed "RAW 12-bit 100fps" - is it true? Because official specs saying that camera works in 12 bit mode under 30 fps and 50-120 fps automatically switching it to 10-bit RAW.
No worries and great point. It should be saying 10 bit raw for anything above 30fps that’s filmed in raw as the camera automatically switches to 10bit when you start going to higher frame rates
Which one to consider for Feature film, I don't need more than 60fps as it's drama. I would love the presence of full frame, my two questions would be considering the noise floor and lowlight performance Suppose C500 MK2 with full frame would have better lowlight but that's where we have noise in shadows, right (according to many users) would this be fixed in firmware by Canon?
Ragunaath Rathnam Id say anything in that department is unlikely to be changed in a firmware update. With 6K full frame the C500 is probably marketed more towards the feature film side as a competitor to the Alexa, but the C300 could definitely handle whatever you could throw at it.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! Subscribed! Question: Do you know if there is a speed booster that would work with EF lenses and the C300mkIII's Super 35 sensor?
You're welcome! Re: speed boosters, not that I know of. As far as I'm aware speed boosters are always adapting from one lens type to another, there arent any that just take S35 to full frame. Could be a handy thing to have, but then again I've really hated using speed boosters in the past as have had some issues with them bugging out. Also it's not ideal to be shooting through another layer of glass if you can avoid it.
Hhhhmmmm, is it time to sell my RED and fo full into Canon land to go with my EOS R? All compatibility and ease of use this guy offers with such a great look, definitely considering it. How have you found the codec compatibility in your NLE? Great video break down, thanks!
Works great in all the editing software I’ve used. You get varying levels of raw control in different NLEs but everything can do the basics like change white balance, picture profile etc
Hey Can you please upload some Clog 2 sample footages on google Drive of Canon C300 III , humble request That we can understand the color grading and result of it
great review... shooting wildlife... nature docus soon.. I was going to go for an used RED, may be Gemini or Dragon...(both super 35...), but now C3003 shoots almost 6K and does 120fps at 4K raw... maybe getting a 1DXM3 as a b for stills also for underwater material... but... do you really get a huge advantage image quality on a full frame compared to S35? Also with S35 I think I have a wide choice of glass? correct? like the Cabos servo 50/1000 mm..I'd love to hear your thoughts...TY!
Haven’t really used the 1DXM3 but have heard good things. You should keep and eye out for the EOSRV, sounds like that’s going to do a lot of what you’re after if you don’t mind a DSLR body
The monitor is actually really bright when you crank up the backlight, I'd heard someone estimated it about 1000nits which is pretty good for on board. There's a bunch of different hoods that would fit the screen. Not sure about Hoodman, but Wooden Camera does some as well. Same screen size as the C500MKII so that helps
Really great stuff, thank you for sharing! Quick question, and I know this my be a bit of a stretch. Perhaps you have any of those test shots you can share? I'm a long time Canon user and current C300 Mark II owner, and of course I'm considering the upgrade to the Mark III. However, I would love to have a go at some footage from the camera shot in the Clog2. Is there any chance you would be able to upload some of the clips you took from the C300 Mark III that I might play with in color correction?
Hey guys, thanks for the great video, is there something strange about the 4K 100/120p bitrate, how come it is the same as 24/25p bitrate, when the 50/60p is double, is it conforming in camera and playing back at 24/25 hence a low bitrate, or is canon doing some sort of line skipping or something strange when it comes to the 4K 100/120p?
George Guille Photography No worries. At the higher frame rates the bitrate does drop down so you don’t chew through card space when shooting 120. But lower bitrate can also mean a drop in quality so just got to be ready for that. However we found the quality of the footage to be really good even at high frame rates even with the lower bitrate. Not sure about the line skipping.
Wow, just wow, ppl talkin shit about this camera probably havent watched any reviews cuz this camera is a fucking beast, if it was this vs the FX9 Im taking this thing every day of the weak. I did not realize how much canon has actually squeezed into this camera at this price range, yess there is cheaper alternatives but wow.
At 3:30, you say that C-Log 2 is the one that offers the benefit of DGO. Does that mean DGO only works on C-Log 2? Or are you saying that C-Log 2 is one that benefits the most from DGO? In other words, is DGO active at all times across all Logs if under 60p?
The latter. I’m saying that Clog2 gives the most dynamic range out of all the picture profiles so use that if you want the flattest image. DGO works across all profiles and is always active as long as the camera is shooting 60p or below.
This review has made more sense than just about any camera review ever. Thank you!
Thomas Davies Cheers man
Exactly the depth he goes into was amazing. I walked away feeling very informed.
Very nicely done! This is one of the most useful, practical camera reviews I've seen.
Thanks!
If you’re a canon owner this is a must watch. Well done.
Thanks for sharing! Loving my C300 M3
Fantastic no-nonsense review! Cheers mate
Abroad in Japan no worries
The C300 is literally my perfect camera 😩
This was absolutely spectacular. Very well done, informative, detailed.... all boxes checked. Thank you for the work you put into this.
Happy to view this review! Thank you Dave and Team!
Beautiful shots and incredibly helpful review thank you! This paired with a c70 is a knock out punch combo!
You are *AMAZING* thank you for your hard work. I hope Canon recognise your efforts. Thank you
This might be my next camera. Excellent review. 10/10
I love the full frame look of the C500 mk2, really a bummer that they did not include better slomo options with that option.
ao true! Why can the higher models not have at least the options that the lower models have? Just make the C500 II a C300 III with full frame and charge 5k more.. No, you always have to choose one over the other
Hi. - just want to say thank you for talking about the things we actually use as well as some of the top-end features. A really good way of understanding the camera without the USP nonsense that the manufacturer spits out.
Like, testing out the lower bit rates - yesssssssss. Yes.
Thank you.
No worries, thanks!
Exactly what I wanted to see. I am in market for my first "cinema" camera body, away from hybrids and dslr, this is the sort of real life feedback we want!
C300 m3 is looking like the one to beat even vs C500 m2. Nicely done👌
EOS R5 > C300 m3 > C500 m2.... Canon, what are you doing?
@@CarpIXOYE What makes you say that?
@@Skrenja I think I was building on top of what Lover Of Tech said, plus the hype of EOSR5 at the time. Now we all know what a disappointment R5 is
Nice work. 👍 In Oz PAL with domestic lamps you need 1/50 shutter or multiples of, I guess. Thanks.
Incredibly informative, learned so much about this cameras. SUBBED
Great review, thanks for that. I'd been agonising over upgrading from my trusty C100 to a C70 or this, in the end I've gone for the C300 mark iii. Looking forward to getting shooting with it in the coming weeks.
You still shooting with the C300 mkiii? Do you still like the decision over the c70?
@@juliancolavito5887 Yes I am. No regrets, the C300 mark iii is a fantastic camera.
Woah... My jaw kinda dropped at 12:00... Was not expecting it to be that clean with noise reduction.
Matt Bastos Still think it gives it a pretty odd look to have that much NR applied so I’d save 102,400 for emergencies. Nice to know you can go there though
Excellent review. Wish all reviews were like this
Cheers man
! Exactly the review I was looking for. Thanks so much for taking the time it took to put this together. Thoughtful, pragmatic and just the right balance of info and eye tests. . Would love to see more of these from you all in the future.
Appreciate it!
Thanks for showing off the record times and battery life
No problem
Excellent no nonsense, pro level video. Thank you!
Literally C300mkiii is crushing all competitors at this price range.
Great review; you have a nice calm nature and delivery. Thank you guys ...
Swagger of Thieves cheers man
what a great in depth video. I've found with my C200 that in RAW the noise is huge. Even at 800 iso and ABB after every time I white balance and change iso etc. It's been a bit of a challenge for sure. Perhaps the c300 is the answer to that. I don't know.
Natural Gallant Bodybuilding I always found clog2 raw was pretty tough going on the C200 but clog3 was great. However then you aren’t seeing the additional dynamic range benefit. All of our shooting in this video was in Clog2 and it looked really clean which is good news
A wonderful review of the new C300 mkiii. Your efforts are very much appreciated. 😊
Exactly the comparison I’ve been looking for. Very nicely done and thanks for the time and effort.
Youre very welcome
I own a C300mkii. From what I've read online and contrary to what Canon states, it's native ISO is closer to 500. Again, this was for the MKii but it may be applicable to the 500mkii and C300mkiii. Who knows.🤷♂️
Really great review. looking forward to getting my hands on to too. Quick and very useful technicals.
Wow. Excellent review...Thanks! :)
Great review - great looking camera
Cheers mate
THAT DGO SHOTS DAMN
Best video by far of all I watched until now about C300 mark III. Congratulations for the good work. It would be great to see a deep explanation and test about the dynamc range in skin tones. And compare it aswell with the C500 mii. It would be great aswell to see it in action with an Atlas Orion. Another cool idea for a next vid: it would be great a comparassion with a Red Camera on the dynamic range aspect and overall cinematic feeling (cause I think Canon right now has improved a lot). Great channel. New sub :) Cheers from Spain
M Private all good ideas. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your really detailed Hands On. The DGO seems to really clean the blacks a lot. Might be my next cam😀
Marten Kählert Yeah when we were shooting with the LUT on we weren’t sure of the results, but as soon as we got it up on the computer screen the difference was really clear
You killed this review. I'm switching back to Canon from Sony and jumping into the C series cameras and I was on the fence between the C500II and the C300III and this, BY FAR, is the best review available. If you have any more information (before the $13,000 leaves my account to BHPHOTO) on the C300III please do another video. The DGO and the 120FPS @ 4K were the big decision factors for me.
Enjoy! Tried to squeeze everything I could think of into this review so nothing I feel like is missing before you take the plunge
Great video! Love seeing the footage & dynamic range from C300iii.
A quite note, with RED, R3D Code Raw, you can change the compression, 6:1, 8:1, 10:1, etc, but not the data rate, as it is variable.
Your footage is amazing, thank you.
Photographic elements Good point, should have said compression not the data rate. Thanks!
Great review. The c300 Mark 3 seems like it's a nice middle ground but it's such a weird market? It competes with the FX9 in a way but after you get it rigged up, you're looking at almost 15K-20K.
Daymian Mejia Yeah the costs can add up a bit more with the canon cams. However they do have a few more higher end features than the FX9 which feels a bit more firmly aimed at a TV market. The internal raw and PL options for the C300III mean it could very easily be a feature doco camera or used in commercials in the same space as the Alexa, where the FX9 probably isn’t going to cut it
@@TallstoryfilmsAus
Very true. Thank you for the input. Certainly something I'm going to consider later in the year after RED releases their Komodo and Blackmagic (hopefully) unveils what they may be working on!
This camera looks so great. Thanks for the thorough review.
Love the filming location!
Damn.. I want this so bad, but its such a dodgy time to be spending heaps of money
@@grosskraft9305 ...and?
@@ancilm and what?
Use it to do a documentary. Call it "The Days the Earth Stood Still". No charge. Just put me down in the credits.
Yeah and imagine how much better ahead of the competition you'll be when this time is all over. (:
I'm a little saddened that you didn't do a highlight roloff test, since that is where digital cameras struggle the most, and I consider it the most important aspect
Lee Brandt would have loved to but only so much we could squeeze into this video
Hey guys. Awesome review. Does the audio get captured at 120fps? Cheers.
Thanks! No audio captured above 60p
@@TallstoryfilmsAus bummer! Oh well. Cheers.
Brilliant review Dave! If you ever need an AC for productions down in Melbourne make sure you hit me up!
Michael Drowley cheers Michael!
At what rate of pay?
Krane Depends on production - but $90/hour or about $720/day
Great Review, if you had the choose between the two cameras which one would you pick
SENOJ Productions Thanks mate. To be honest I’m loving my C500II and given some of my favourite things about it are the same design elements that carry across to the C300III, I’m pretty happy sticking with my C500. At the end of the day they’re both great cams so best to think about which feature you’ll want to use more (120/180fps+DGO, or full frame)
Fabulous review. Any camera these days are amazing!!
I legit just can’t decide between the c70 or the c300iii. Is the raw workflow worth it 🥺🥺
Just depends on what your needs are. As well as raw, the C300 is a bit easier to use on the shoulder with larger lenses as well as it’s got more of a traditional form factor. If neither of those are a priority the C70 is pretty fantastic!
Super great review of C300! How does the C300 S35 crop factor affect your shooting compared to C500 FF? That's probably my only concern with C300 (and I cannot afford C500 as I run a very very very small production only). Thanks and once again - great review!
Thanks! I find the full frame really useful for interview setups especially on the C500MKII, but there are a lot more Super 35mm lens options out there which suit the C300MKIII. Combine that with the 4K 120p and the C300MKIII is the better option for a lot of users
Thanks for the super smart review. Great Job!
Blake Hottle cheers Blake!
Would like a Panasonic Eva 1 vs c300iii comparison 💰🎥
God I so prefer these reviews to “hEy wHaTs UP GuYs!?” reviews. So thank you! And the inclusion of every bit of info I was actually after
Good video, best review so far. I was wondering whether you would go for the C300 MkIII over the C500 MkII if you had the choice again?
At the moment with the shooting Im doing the full frame is really handy so I'd probably still go with the C500MKII. But honestly I feel like either camera is a pretty great bet, so just think about what feature you need the most (120/180fps v full frame) and make your decision based off that I'd say.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus So, looking into the near future, would a C300MkIII and a full frame R5 cover all your needs for documentary filming? Also, really nice review - thanks!
@@PelicanNorth As a C500 mk2 owner, I'm considering going with the R5 as my high frame rate + gimbal cam. C300mk3 is a surprisingly good release
Going from MK2, in-camera IS is a big change and something I am really curious about. Since I do a lot of handheld work, I've been using mostly lenses with IS. But you don't recommend using the in-camera IS with non IS lenses? Fantastic review btw. Thanks.
You can use the in-camera IS with non IS lenses if you want, I just find it introduces a bit of a smoothness that I can find looks unnatural. Not everyone feels the same way though so worth a test for yourself to see what suits you
Great work! Everyone was looking for this comparison 🙈 are you a little bit jealous that the C300 M3 does support 120fps..👀
Furkan Karaaslan It’d be handy for sure, but I get why the two cameras are different. At the end of the day just got to figure out which features are going to be more useful to you and go that way
Loved this review/ comparison mate!
Thanks!
Guys brilliant review. Enjoyed it alot
Wow. Awesome video mate!
Thanks!
Lots of good info, thank you.
No worries
Looks like they added support of XF-AVC Long GOP and XF-AVC Proxy format to the C500MKii. Now time to figure out if FF is that important or if we'd rather have a better picture which might be negligible to the untrained eye. I feel that most will go for the C300MKiii because its not a huge change in workflow to those already working with super 35. Did going back to a smaller sensor make you feel any at all limited?
I've had a lot of time using the C200 and C300MKII so it was pretty straightforward going back to Super 35. Full frame is amazing, but the features they've put in to the C300MKIII are useful enough to make it a proper contest between the two cameras. I actually think deciding on what lenses you want to be using/can afford is probably a good way to help make the decision.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Makes sense. Cheers!
I wish the c300iii was prised a bit more competitive. I can't justify it against the FX6 from a business standpoint now.
The FX6 is a pretty amazing little camera but if you're after something at the price point and want to go Canon the C70 is great. With the 0.71 adapter it effectively gives you the best of both in terms of full frame and super35
@@TallstoryfilmsAus I tried it a couple of weeks ago and the formfactor felt a bit weird coming from a C200.
Thorough and informative review. Very helpful, so thanks.
Welcome!
Excellent review on the Canon 300 III and 500 II - my question to you - for what type of films would you prefer the feature of 120/180fps or full frame?
mageefilms very much down to personal preference. Have a think about what your filming needs are, which feature you’d find more useful and what your budget is. That’s probably the best way to decide.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thank you for your feedback. I agree, it really depends on your personal preference. Like you I bought a C 500 MK II early this year and tested it since then a lot. 6K, full sensor ... the camera is state of the art. The only missing feature is the framerate (4K 100fps) of the new C 300 MK III. I think Canon should have announced, that 2 cameras were to come out within only 6 month time. Most likely I will get the C 300 III as well. - Wish you good luck with your productions!
@@mageefilms If you had to choose one, which one would you get?
@@Lafayettehillstudios After having tested the C 300 MK III definately the C 500 MK II. I prefer the full sensor over the higher framerate. The C 500 sensor to me is more adult. Hopefully Black Magic Pocket 6k will come out with a new low priced 6 K Camera with a 4K RAW 120 fps solution as a backup camera. Wouldn't be surprised. Canon C300 MKIII competes against the Sony PXW-FX9 - wish they had come out with a better and higher priced camera, perhaps C 300 III 500 II in one.
@@mageefilms Thank you!!!!
Excellent video. Thank you
Ultra professional review, thanks you
No worries, cheers for the feedback
Great review sir. Great review of this camera. Talk about a performer. I didn't think the day would come that other brands would do as well as the A7S but that day has arrived. (:
Brilliant review. Stay safe. BobUK.
One of the best reviews ever on this youtube space! Please post more!
Also, I have a question! How does the canon cinema series c500m2/c300 m3 stand against RED cameras?
Thanks! It’s hard to say because all the cameras have their own strengths and weaknesses. Canon typically weren’t competing with RED on things like frame rate and resolution but that looks like it’s changing now.
Yes, I can agree with that point! But I am really looking forward to make a good investment in the a cinema camera! I live in Nothern India, here the RED/Arri is used a lot. But, no one care about the Canon Cinema line-up where as the results coming straight from a C500 is way better than what they are producing!
That's why I am confused, Should I go for a camera I have heard a lot about or the camera that has the market value around me?
@@Govvind333 Sorry mate that's a decision I can't help you with
Thanks for a great review. How did you find doing handheld shots? It seemed you were able to hold it quite steady.
Its got a great weight and size for handheld shooting. I've always enjoyed having that option instead of being forced to use a camera off the shoulder
Great stuff, Dave.
Cheers Neale
Amazing! Thanks guys.
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Do you find the shadows significantly cleaner on the C300 Mark ii vs the c500 Mark ii in full frame mode?
On the C300MKIII? It wasnt too apparent while shooting but as soon as we got it up on the monitor we realised it was a pretty big difference, even with the C500 in full frame mode
Tall Story Films yes sorry meant the C300 Mark iii (typo). Awesome thanks for the info!
Hi Dave and James, I just wanted to say thanks for the excellent camera review. I've been working my C300 MKII ridiculously hard for the past 5 years and while it'll still keep producing client content, I'm torn between the C500 Mark II and C300 Mark III for an upcoming short film. After your video review and seeing the footage you were able to get I'm pretty certain I'm going with the C300 Mark III. Although I love the full-frame look of the C500II and the possibility of native anamorphic, I think the C300 Mark III is going to be more flexible for the day to day bread and butter shoots. In your video you mentioned the C300III having anamorphic desqueeze as well, have you had a chance to play with that at all? Best, Dare
Thanks for the comment and the email Dare, will respond properly via email but generally Id say it really is down to personal preference. The cameras perform really similarly so the question is mostly do you need 120fps 4K/180 fps HD and have Super 35 lenses? Or do you want Full Frame and the option of 5.9k. Its not an easy choice but reckon you'll be happy whichever way you go
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Yep. Gear agony syndrome. C70 vs C300III vs C500II. Really want that full-frame extra field of view, but honestly the biggest point after watching your video a couple more times is the supposed boost of DR in the C300III. Do you see a huge difference in low-light situations? Thanks also for the email. Responding there.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus I decided to grab the C70 to hold me over and once the RF version of the C500 II makes it way to market I'll spring for that. Thanks so much for your comments which helped me figure it out. Just got the C70 and am currently scouring the world to find the Canon EF to RF .71 adapter so I can put my glass on it. Sigh....
@@dare.cinema Good luck! I think youll love it
@@dare.cinema how is it ?! I’m between the same three cameras. I just can’t decide if I should enter the raw workflow
Great video! Is it true you can't use the viewfinder at the same time as the monitor? Also don't you wish they would switch the audio level controls and the media slots around? Seems redundant having easy access to memory cards vs levels.
Monitor and viewfinder work simultaneously, no problems there. At first I was really annoyed that the C500MKII's audio controls were on that side, but then I got used to it. When Im shooting handheld theyre actually in a better spot for me around that side because I dont have to move the camera away from my body to adjust, and if it's a sit-down interview it doesnt matter too much. Less than ideal but not the end of the world.
Excellent review.
Wonderful review. Cheers!
I stand in between to buy the c300 mark iii or c500 mark ii. I shoot a lot of documentary style, interviews and events plus some commercial films. What should I go for? Nice video :-)
Vetle Eggen thanks! Either camera will suit your needs by the sound of things, will just be down to which feature you think you’d use more between the full frame and the 120/180fps as they’re probably the biggest differences
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Okay so the 5,9 k is not worth it?
Vetle Eggen depends on the project. If you were filming drama for a streaming service, filming 2:1 anamorphic and needed to deliver the highest resolution file, having 5.9k could be the reason to use this camera over everything else. For documentary shooting where file size is more of a concern it might be less practical
Just curious about lens used for the cooking sequence to get that shallow DOF? Cheers! Great video
All of the cooking was filmed on a set of Canon CN-E prime lenses. From memory it was mostly the 50mm and 135mm
Great video bro
Appreciate it!
Great comparison! What gimbal are you using for the C300?
Andrew Mayo have been able to get it to work on a Ronin S, but looks like there are some new stick gimbals coming to market soon that might be even better
Good vid Dave! Perfect!!!
Thanks man appreciate it
Great video mate, Loving the look of the C300 mk iii - Do you know if the camera supports external raw recording, to an atomos or similar recorder? Cheers.
Brett Walker Not that I’m aware of. Canon have gone in on making the internal raw light the best bet for their raw. On the c200 people came up with adapters that would let you use an ssd drive in the Cfast slot, so it’s possible someone will develop something similar here
Tall Story Films thanks for the prompt reply mate, looks like I’ll just have to rob a bank for some more Cfast cards ;)
Great video! - Thanks for that. - I‘m looking for really good LUT‘s for c300 Mark III. I saw in your video, that you had import some of this. Where can I find this?? ... Marc
Both Canon and Arri have links to their LUTS on the websites, but Lumetri in Premiere and Resolve both have a lot of the standard LUTs built in which is handy
Great review. I have a question though! You said the DGO only works at framerates under 60fps. Does that include 50/60fps or not?
Monkeypixels yep works with 50 and 60fps
Great review! Thank you. I noticed a shot of the C300mkiii on your Ronin-S at 1:41. How did you find using it on a one-handed gimbal? Would you use it for a shoot?
It works alright but think you'd probably be better off with a two handed or the new crane gimbal that looks designed for heavy payload cameras
@@TallstoryfilmsAus thanks
Great video I’m debating on purchasing a Canon C300 Mark 2, Sony FS7 Mark 2 or wait and purchase the C300 mark 3. Is there that big a difference in these? I use Sony mostly but the prices have dropped for the first 2 cameras I mentioned equally and I’m sure the Mark 3 will be a huge difference. Thanks in advance.
Chef Monstro Lots of big differences between all 3 of the cameras you’ve mentioned. If you can afford it I’d go with the newer cameras as personally I find camera technology changes very quick and investing in a 5+ year old camera body might mean you need to upgrade again sooner than you’d like. It’s all down to personal preference and budget though
Tall Story Films yeah my buddy came down and has the z cam I’m really impressed with the look and feel of it I think I’m gonna actually buy the zcam f8 or f6 the resolution is gorgeous
Lovely video! Thoughts on the c300 m3 vs the FX9? Trying to make a good business decision as well as choose the best camera :)
There's a lot to like about both cameras, but personally my pick is the C300MKIII. I've always found it easier to get good results with the Canon series cameras and there are a couple of things about the FX9 that wouldnt suit the way I like to work. I also have a lot of EF lenses and personally have never loved having to use adapters as have had a few issues with them in the past.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thanks for the quick reply :) I'm definitely becoming more swayed with the C300... looks like a great camera to operate. I think I'll wait till more videos crop up and hopefully I'll get the chance to try both out. I'm just really disappointed with the lack of frame rate options with the FX9 and how slow it is to change, although I do love the look of the new venice colour science.
@@cameron.vickers Theres a few C300/500 and fx9 user facebook groups out there that could be worth a follow if you're after more info. Couple of other quirks with the FX9 Ive heard people coming across and the owners in those groups can probably give you some practical info about them.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thanks for the help! I've joined some forums to do some more digging :)
I'd like to know more about the AF. Is it really that good even when not using Canon Glass?
ja-ki dnb I have a couple of sigma art lenses that I like to use and have found they work great as well
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Is there some footage with those lenses that I can have a look at?
First of all - thank you for a great review of the upcoming camera.
At 04:19 you've pointed "RAW 12-bit 100fps" - is it true? Because official specs saying that camera works in 12 bit mode under 30 fps and 50-120 fps automatically switching it to 10-bit RAW.
No worries and great point. It should be saying 10 bit raw for anything above 30fps that’s filmed in raw as the camera automatically switches to 10bit when you start going to higher frame rates
Which one to consider for Feature film, I don't need more than 60fps as it's drama. I would love the presence of full frame, my two questions would be considering the noise floor and lowlight performance
Suppose C500 MK2 with full frame would have better lowlight but that's where we have noise in shadows, right (according to many users) would this be fixed in firmware by Canon?
Ragunaath Rathnam Id say anything in that department is unlikely to be changed in a firmware update. With 6K full frame the C500 is probably marketed more towards the feature film side as a competitor to the Alexa, but the C300 could definitely handle whatever you could throw at it.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thanks for the response, would like to ask, what would be the maximum usable iso in C300 MK3, considering feature film project?
Feature film are Super 35. And while we're on the subject, they're also shot in 2K.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! Subscribed!
Question: Do you know if there is a speed booster that would work with EF lenses and the C300mkIII's Super 35 sensor?
You're welcome! Re: speed boosters, not that I know of. As far as I'm aware speed boosters are always adapting from one lens type to another, there arent any that just take S35 to full frame. Could be a handy thing to have, but then again I've really hated using speed boosters in the past as have had some issues with them bugging out. Also it's not ideal to be shooting through another layer of glass if you can avoid it.
Hhhhmmmm, is it time to sell my RED and fo full into Canon land to go with my EOS R? All compatibility and ease of use this guy offers with such a great look, definitely considering it. How have you found the codec compatibility in your NLE? Great video break down, thanks!
Works great in all the editing software I’ve used. You get varying levels of raw control in different NLEs but everything can do the basics like change white balance, picture profile etc
Hey Can you please upload some Clog 2 sample footages on google Drive of Canon C300 III , humble request That we can understand the color grading and result of it
great review... shooting wildlife... nature docus soon.. I was going to go for an used RED, may be Gemini or Dragon...(both super 35...), but now C3003 shoots almost 6K and does 120fps at 4K raw... maybe getting a 1DXM3 as a b for stills also for underwater material... but... do you really get a huge advantage image quality on a full frame compared to S35? Also with S35 I think I have a wide choice of glass? correct? like the Cabos servo 50/1000 mm..I'd love to hear your thoughts...TY!
Haven’t really used the 1DXM3 but have heard good things. You should keep and eye out for the EOSRV, sounds like that’s going to do a lot of what you’re after if you don’t mind a DSLR body
Great Review! were you able to fit a hoodman from the c300mkii onto the new screen? how did the monitor go with reflections when shooting outdoors?
The monitor is actually really bright when you crank up the backlight, I'd heard someone estimated it about 1000nits which is pretty good for on board. There's a bunch of different hoods that would fit the screen. Not sure about Hoodman, but Wooden Camera does some as well. Same screen size as the C500MKII so that helps
@@TallstoryfilmsAus The Wooden Camera 4"-5" Sun Shade fits great. instagram.com/p/B_kwBGBp1sS/
Really great stuff, thank you for sharing! Quick question, and I know this my be a bit of a stretch. Perhaps you have any of those test shots you can share? I'm a long time Canon user and current C300 Mark II owner, and of course I'm considering the upgrade to the Mark III. However, I would love to have a go at some footage from the camera shot in the Clog2. Is there any chance you would be able to upload some of the clips you took from the C300 Mark III that I might play with in color correction?
Tyler Bailey shoot me an email (dave@tallstoryfilms.com) Happy to help if I can
Do you mean 180 degrees shutter at 25fps instead of 90 degrees? Thank you !
Hey guys, thanks for the great video, is there something strange about the 4K 100/120p bitrate, how come it is the same as 24/25p bitrate, when the 50/60p is double, is it conforming in camera and playing back at 24/25 hence a low bitrate, or is canon doing some sort of line skipping or something strange when it comes to the 4K 100/120p?
George Guille Photography No worries. At the higher frame rates the bitrate does drop down so you don’t chew through card space when shooting 120. But lower bitrate can also mean a drop in quality so just got to be ready for that. However we found the quality of the footage to be really good even at high frame rates even with the lower bitrate. Not sure about the line skipping.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thanks guys, cant wait to try one out for myself
Wow, just wow, ppl talkin shit about this camera probably havent watched any reviews cuz this camera is a fucking beast, if it was this vs the FX9 Im taking this thing every day of the weak. I did not realize how much canon has actually squeezed into this camera at this price range, yess there is cheaper alternatives but wow.
At 3:30, you say that C-Log 2 is the one that offers the benefit of DGO. Does that mean DGO only works on C-Log 2? Or are you saying that C-Log 2 is one that benefits the most from DGO? In other words, is DGO active at all times across all Logs if under 60p?
The latter. I’m saying that Clog2 gives the most dynamic range out of all the picture profiles so use that if you want the flattest image. DGO works across all profiles and is always active as long as the camera is shooting 60p or below.
@@TallstoryfilmsAus Thank you!
Hey weren’t you on the Canon official channel?