The Downfall of a Family Guy: Peter Griffin
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- How did Peter Griffin go form a loving husband and father, to someone who hates his family? In this video essay video I look at the decline of a Family Guy.
On this channel we look at the funniest Family Guy moments from Peter, Lois, Chris, Meg and Brian. As well as other Family Guy characters from Quahog Rhode Island.
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How did stewie, the evil super genius psycho baby, become the most tame, sensible, and arguably calmest person in the griffin family?
Honestly I think it’s the only character development in the show that works. I don’t exactly like the direction they took it, but it made sense for him. You could only do so much with him trying to kill Lois all the time.
We became a Gay Furry.
It was probably when he found out how miserable is life would be if he continued to be all "take over the world" evil in that special where Stewie travels across the country to see that person who he thinks is his real dad but actually him from the distant future.
@@shawty7303 yeah in the prime timeline stewie grows up to be a cowardly store worker who cried after having sex for the first time.
Isn't there an episode where he splits off into evil Stewie? And in the end they defeat evil Stewie?
I totally forgot that Chris had a love for drawing and art...why did they ever scrap that?
It definitely feels like a character detail you shouldn’t just forget
Because making him some kind of sex-crazed, perverted freak with every fetish under the sun is somehow more "entertaining" than giving him any appreciable character traits
Chris used to be good at baseball u til he had his arm shattered tor beer money
Puberty
He got too busy working on Robot Chicken
Literally damn near every family character became an irredeemable asshole over time.
Brian, Chris, Lois, etc
well i mean what has stewie really done? his only kills now adays are for good reason. sure he's a dick sometimes but thats just his personality, he's done more good than bad tbh
@@Fashionedvalues_ which is very ironic, considering he was originally the most evil of them all.
Adrenochrome lmaoooo 😂
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I remember when he saved Meg from a mass suicide in season 1. The best thing he did for Meg in the entire series
Me and my boyfriend love binge watching old episodes of Family Guy, we were so shocked in the earlier seasons when Peter actually acknowledged Meg even calling her "Sweetie" sometimes. It was so weird seeing this because in recent seasons he doesn't even care about Meg the slightest 😂
That was a great monologue he gives in Chitty Chitty Death Bang.
Wait what episode and season is that? I wanna watch it.
@@ABloomAtMoonrise season 1 episode 3 chitty chitty death bang
@@SeyaDiakite7 Great, thanks so much.😊💛
It’s so sad. At the start he was an idiot but he was a Family Guy and cared for them and his friends. But then Seth McFarlene stopped writing for the show and the people who took over writing the show butchered Peter’s character and everyone else’s characters in the show too.
Wait Seth MacFarlane stop writing for the show?
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 yeah. He still voices the characters he voices but he stopped writing for the show.
@@briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 I know Family Guy's detractors act like he personally writes every single episode, but I'm pretty sure Seth hasn't written or been an actual part of the writing process since like...season 3-4.
I never knew he stopped writing for the show.. Wow!
Yep the Writers Guild of America took over writing many of the new episodes. With them on strike Family Guy and American Dad are on permanent hiatus.
What they’ve done to his character is basically what they’ve done to almost all the characters
True
Peter: Becomes a psychotic maniac.
Brian: Becomes a giant ass
Lois: Becomes.. another psychotic maniac.
Meg: Also psychotic maniac.
I think I’m seeing a pattern.
@@anonymousoldcatAnd Chris and Stewie
@@daniapfel2825 I dunno about Chris, he's a lot tamer then say, Lois or Peter, and Stewie never went crazy as he was already nuts.
almost every character has been ruined because of the new writers
To be fair Seth was burnt out with the show and honestly I can't blame him since the show been running for so long it tents to a fatigued both the show itself and it's characters and I were him I would leave the show under I can trust who can lead Family Guy where it was as a great show rather than give it to a modren writting crew that made the show a shadow of it's former self
Agreed.
I heard he wanted to get the show cancelled - hence one of the reasons the characters were so badly flanderized. But that plan backfired.
@@SamuraiGirl02 yea he did but fans didn't want it to end so he kept it going.
Seth doesn’t even do the writing anymore
Funny thing is he gave direction of the show to someone who worked with him and he trusted. However unfortunately a few years after the switch family guy swiftly declined.
Peter went from being a a little bit dim witted, yet well meaning and likable guy who loves his family and friends, to a psychopathic, selfish, arrogant, and arrogant Ben more idiotic jerk who causes harm, pain, misery and misfortune to the people around him (often due to his stupidity), hardly shows any affection towards his family, does evil and illegal things in almost every episode, and always gets away with his actions considering that he did all of that bad stuff out of stupidity and idiocy!
it is my head cannon that the characters in family guy got so much worse because they are all going crazy and turning to alchoholism and drug abuse making them have massive personality shifts from insanity, thinking about it, the characters are aware they are a tv show, so nothing they do matters, imagine living the rest of your life knowing, nothing you do, no matter how significant or important, will ever matter no matter what, the exticental crisis would hit anyone hard
From my point of view in family guy they show us peter and lois that at first you can't imagine that they are psychopaths, sociopaths and cretins but over time they show their true face, in american dad the opposite happens stan always shows himself as the extremist intolerant father who is also a deranged psychopath, Francine is the only one who is a good person and mother despite her defects and upbringing unlike Peter, Lois and Stan who did not know how to mature to improve as people. To finish I like how as the seasons go by little by little stewie, brian and meg were maturing and following their own paths despite all the chaos that peter and lois generate, the same with francine, roger, klaus and the boys they have to put up with to stan.
American Dad I can still stand to watch.
Have you ever watched these shows? The characters are not at all as you portray them. They are all sociopaths.
@Spanky Nater Either way, American Dad I can still tolerate. Family Guy is just insufferable and annoying. One would have to be incredibly desperate to stand by FG more than ever.
@@SamanthaJonesSATC I stopped watching both of them years ago.
@Spanky Nater I'm.not giving up on South Park or Futurama either. The latter is coming back with a new series and I don't like adult animation as much as I used to.
My problem with Peter is that he’s pretty much useless as a family man. His relationship with Lois is a parent-child relationship rather than husband-wife relationship. His parenting, 97% of the times, is basically a combination of Homer’s psychotic, abusive, and hypocritical relationship with Bart with his tendency to neglect Maggie, except 50x times worse. Also, Homer, despite being a bad dad towards Bart (and Maggie), at least he has a great relationship with Lisa. It’s so great I have to say if you want see Homer’s good side being shown consistently then watch a Homer-Lisa episode. Peter has none of that with none of his kids. Finally his income is made practically worthless ever since it was revealed that Carter pays the mortgage. Why is Peter even here at this point? Meg was right he is a “waste of a man”.
Yeah he might have some good episodes where he’s actually is being a good family man (that Blockbuster episode), but there far in few between and his default mode is something like that “Happy Holo-ween” episode where he hates spending time with family and replaced himself with a hologram so he can get drunk with his buddies. Speaking of that hologram episode, what was wrong with hologram Peter? For once, he was behaving like a husband and father who actually likes his family. And the results are that the family were happy and normal, and they have to get rid of the hologram for the useless real Peter. That’s messed up.
Facts
And of course Homer isn't always horrible to Bart and Maggie
Just gonna say Family guy doesn't run on continuity. In some episodes its carter pays their mortgage. In some it is people. In one episode they said they were renting.
In that case, I feel like the hologram would in a way represent Seth. The writers turned Family Guy characters into meh and worse, whereas, when Seth was in charge of writing, the show and characters seemed better. Maybe this don't make sense, but idk.
Honestly this is similar to how Homer simpson was in the simpsons. In the beginning, he was seen as a bumbling fool who always screws up, but tries to do what's best for his family. The first episode with Santa's little helper is an excellent example of this. Also, the episode where Homer misses Lisa recital and buys a copy and watches it every year. Sure, he had his moments of rage (especially twords Bart and ned). But you could honestly say that Homer tried to be a good man. Now we have Homer constantly strangling Bart and being emotionally unavailable to Lisa and emotionally abusive to marge. Sure, in the past, he neglected things. But it was always portrayed at him being incompetent, not willful ignorance, and just not giving a shit.
Even Homer's actions nowadays are more easy forgiven than Peter's. Especially since even nowadays most of Homer's bad actions towards Marge are due to his stupidity. Is it overused- sure, but it's still better than Peter.
Also, I would say that the problem with Homer and Lisa's relationship comes not from Homer's character assassination, but from Lisa's. Nowadays, Lisa downright hates her family for not being a perfect family, which to her means vegans, who tie themselves to trees and go to theaters and museums every day.
What are you talking about Homer has been a pretty nice guy ever since season 15 and he hasn't even strangaled Bart for multiple seasons. Your just making this up
I stopped watching the simpsons a long time ago so if that is true then my bad.
Is hard to say that; but Disney fix the Simpson.
@@debater452 i wish theyd bring back smart homer his true self back, even as a gag
It’s a shame that family guy has become such a unwatchable show. I used to watch it daily.
I still think it's good.
I still enjoy it for the most part. I'm planning to review the latest season. Just got a couple more to finish :)
@@LydiaLovesTimelines I love watching the older episodes, but the modern episodes are tough for me to sit through unfortunately
@@LydiaLovesTimelines I miss the old seasons of family guy, I think after Seth went on strike back in the day, that’s when it went downhill. that’s my opinion, he started to distance himself from the show as it went on.
Same here Lydia. I’d like to see a little more of some of the secondary characters. Herbert has all but disappeared. I think they had their season finale this past Sunday.
Yeah Homer Simpson set the bar,just how dumb can we make the father.
At least he still cares about his family.
At least Homer is just dumb and a jerk at times. Peter is.. well, he'd be arrested for commiting several warcrimes. Literally.
@@GumSkyloard yeah I’d say while modern Simpsons isn’t as good as classic Simpsons it’s at least ten times better then modern Family Guy.
@@deniseg9210 Yep
@Gum Skyloard also, Homer is rarely abusive to his family. And most of the time he is aggressive towards Bart, but to be honest, he is often asking for it.
I think the problem is that the writers kept going more and more down the "let's see how offensive we can get" hole with all the characters, especially Peter. And the sad thing is, Peter was actually a pretty interesting version of the barely responsible dad. He was raised by television and it's clear that he was a pop culture sponge that was somehow out of it and genre savvy at the same time. As much as everyone said he was a Homer Simpson knockoff, Peter was clearly a Gen-X character to Homer's Boomer (at the time of the shows' respective creations, that is). He was a wanna be 80's sitcom dad as much as Homer was a twisted subversion of a 60's TV dad. Plus, I genuinely hate when Peter and Lois basically say how much they hate each other. It really ruins that classic episode where Death shows him how they fell in love. I get the idea that there could be an arc of them falling out of love as a married couple, but they take it beyond that. Though I did like how passive aggressive he was with "Saggy Naggy."
Yeah, they were more concerned with how offensive they could be before they get shut down than they were about creating substantial stories. Hell, I'd like to see Meg leave her dysfunctional household and work on healing the trauma caused by them, growing as a person in her own right.
This is what happens when a show creator stops caring
The creator hasn't been involved with the show's writing in years. He mainly just do the voices.
The Theme song went from genuine to ironic
Where did the good old fashioned values on which we used to rely go😔😔😔
@@TheTelephoneNumberIDialed
Where's that Family Guy who positively can do all the things that makes us laugh and cry🧢👌😔?
I also don’t think it’s just a coincidence that this seemed to occur once Seth left as showrunner. It’s a common thread with MacFarlane’s projects. He leaves as showrunner to pursue other projects, that he smashes out of the park, but he’s other shows go from being awesome to ok.
I say american dad is still awsome
That happens to all TV shows that are long running. At the end, they are not what they started out as, and the change is usually not for the best.
@@Oracle1426that’s cause he’s writing for American dad
@@spankynater4242 Networks tend to milk things for too long, before they eventually start taking shortcuts or new writers come on, and that's when Flandeization starts.
What happened to Peter is the Simple,the Longer the Series Continues the Less the Writers knows what to do with the Characters,A-Hole Characters can be Funny Hell Roger Smith is Peter done Right but Peter is the Wrong Way to Do It,He’s the Biggest Menace in Family Guy and perhaps is the Worst Father,Husband,and Friend in Fictional Media,I miss when He was a Decent Guy.
Worst part is originally he wasn't an ahole character. Just a well meaning father who screws things up
@@dissonanceparadiddle Exactly,in a Way He Used to Be Relatable.
Family Guy? More like New England Ass-wipe, am I rite!
That’s the difference between American dad and family guy, the smiths were assholes from the start, and had no where else to go but up.
@@dissonanceparadiddle he wasn’t always an evil monkey.-Chris griffin.
Thankfully Real Life Peter Griffin continues to be a wholesome figure on RUclips.
Peter has devolved into an extremely dangerous man without a conscience. He has assumed the role of bully once held by Stewie.
I still have my season one dvd set, the back describes all the family members and Peter is described as a big lovable oaf who’d do anything for his family.
Meg is also described as a sweet drama queen who leads a difficult life trying to fit in with Peter as a dad, she was actually a teenage character back then. And Chris is said to be kind hearted and wouldn’t hurt a fly with a talent for drawing who watches boobs on the tv, his perverseness wasn’t his whole character.
Pretty much no one is the same character they were in season one.
Remember when lois was actually a decent mom back in the day, and now is just so insufferable?
I'll tell you the exact moment he's character changed dramatically: Season: 4 Episode: 6 Petarded. Ever since that episode, Peter has consciously known people will put up with him because of that. Even after that episode of toning it down a bit, you can see it come into play with how he deals with consequences or they just break the 4th wall hinting each character knows its just a show.
I’ve been saying for years that the best season was season 2 but Seasons 1-4 were the golden era. After 4 it all goes downhill
Sadly this is something that tends to happen with some characters. While they start off as having a decent balance of morals and flaws but as time goes on, their flaws overshadow their morals.
Most people are bad people. Family guy is a reflection of America. Rick and Morty is like the most popular cartoon and that's as mean as mean humor gets. Nice people are not funny. It's a comedy
While I find Lois and Brian to be the worst characters on Family Guy post revival, especially Lois, Peter isn't too far behind. I really hate the bumbling dad trope, and only few I've seen do it well in animation (Hugh Neutron probably being the best example) but in early seasons Peter was actually a properly utilized version of this trope, while sure he did stupid and reckless things it always felt like he cared to some extent, or at least there wasn't mallicious in his intent. Even if he came off as bumbling. And that's not to say unlikable characters work, this show just doesn't do it properly and often rely on the same joke with their unlikability. Roger Smith for instance is just Peter done right.
You're crazy if you think Brian is a worst characters than Quagmire
@@RomaroBrandon In later seasons I would say yeah, especially since they have given Quagmire more of a side than being a sex crazed maniac. Brian has pretty much taken that mantle.
The main key difference I think is nuance. A bumbling idiot dad troupe can work if there’s more to the character aside from them being a nuisance or an ass. But if there is nothing to the character except that, the character won’t work
@@CoOlKyUbI96 I disagree. The trope works so long as the environment and/or character changes slightly. For example, Fry from Futurama is an idiot yet he was considered smart when the brains took over because he was stupid enough to sleep with his grandma and become his own grandpa. The entire time Fry was dumb but for a moment he was considered smart due to the situation he was in.
@@RomaroBrandon Futurama also has Fry have more depth beyond just being an idiot. I certainly do think what you mentioned played a role in making Fry entertaining to watch. But I think Fry can also be used as an example to demonstrate the point I was making. For idiot characters to work as characters the audience finds likable, they got to also have other persistent traits shown
Now I miss 1999 peter...-
Yeah. The old Peter Griffin is much better than the new one.
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Fr but i can see the reason of make Peter a douchbag to do more possibilities ABD fun noments bu yea old öne is way better
It feels like the characters are less characters now and simply vehicles for jokes... Peter Griffin is the best example of this
I swear I was just thinking the other day about how vastly different Peter is from season one until now. He went from being like Homer in that he wasn't the brightest guy and could be inconsiderate but fiercely loved his family, to just being an absolute psychopath who would push his wife down the stairs or throw his daughter in the basement to amuse himself.
Yep I agree with everything you said, Peter used to be one of my favorite characters, but then the writers made him more violent, abusive to his family and friends, and very mentally unstable, the moment I hated him was when he threw Stewie who was in a coma with infected head wounds under Lois’ car, and he started killing more and more people including children as the series progressed, he’s done too many heinous and horrific acts for me to see him as a likable character ever again.
I’m surprised that Peter and Lois haven’t gotten divorced yet at all in the show. That would make for a very interesting story arc I think.
Seeing how they handle other topics (Brian dying, Brian moving out, etc) it would just be reversed next episode. She would probably throw him out or walk out with the kids (maybe?) episode ends, and the next episode would be her seeing how much she misses his antics and he misses her nagging (or doesnt miss her at all/ only misses her doing stuff around the house). I mean even Simpsons have done a couple episodes that imply Marge and Homer would get a divorce at some point ( a flash forward where they are, and a whole episode where they separate, but its like, a dream in a dream in a dream)
I would like to see that as a finale for the series.
@@kingpen6432 me too! 😀
Simpsons did it!
@@shipper-of-heart8898 I remember when Brian died on family guy. Seth McFarlane was actually going to make it permanent but there so much online outrage that he brought Brian back. I remember that was such huge news it made it into my current events class in high school. 😂😂😂
Its safe to say that Peter went from being a Decent beloved and goofy goon father and then becoming straight Menacing sadistic idiotic psychopath even considered a serial killer. Its clear that Peter deserves to be sentenced a full Life in prison forever with no remorse.
Do The Downfall of Timmy Turner next, Lydia!
Shit like this is why TV shows need to have endings planned. The longer a show goes on, the worse it gets in quality and the less writers are able to know what the fuck to do with the characters anymore.
exactly! i believe Gravity Falls and TAWOG did it best. Gravity Falls was a short 2 season show with actual plot and actual good comedy. Gumball was longer, yes, but it still had some story, amazing comedy, and explanations/acknowledgements for the whole common "suddenly everything is completely normal again" trope in tv shows. and the ending was a cliffhanger, yes, but perfect to expand upon for season 7
Technically, we have three predators in Quahog: Herbert the Pervert, Quagmire and now Peter.
Yeah, can’t believe she forgot about Quagmire lol
@@sherpafan033 Yep. Post-cancellation Quagmire is a fucking nightmarish sexual deviant, being little more than a serial rapist and an ephebophile. The humour just really masks how low his character has fallen, to the point that he's pretty much no better than Herbert. In fact, I'd say Quagmire may be even worse than Herbert because his sexually criminal behaviour is rarely given the same creepy undercurrent that Herbert's behaviour has.
And the principal. He's assaulted Chris multiple times.
I mean, imagine if The Simpsons had tried to stay counter-culture even when they became pop-culture. It would probably make Homer look like Peter.
Man, Peter used to be a guy you’d love to get a beer with- now you’d shriek in terror and call the cops if you so much as caught a glimpse of him in a store window
The less said about peter the better the final straw for me was him purposely shooting quagmire's arm with a sniper rifle.
What about when he shot meg for just saying hello? He just pulled a pistol out of nowhere and shot her.
This is a really great video. One time a few months ago I had watched a couple episodes from Season 1 after having seen loads of clips and stuff from Seasons 19 and beyond, and I could instantly see the difference in the ways Peter was acting. For example, in Season 1 he stopped to talk to a crowd of people blocking the road to try to convince them to move cause he wanted to get by, meanwhile modern day Peter would probably just run them over to get through them. It's not really just Family Guy either. Any TV show that goes on for a long time (I've noticed it's almost always after Season 5 for some reason) will most likely suffer from flanderizing or even flat out ruining characters over time if not immediately.
If Lydia Loves Timelines can appear in a Simpsons episode, then a cameo on a Family Guy could be possible.
Season and episode number?
@@carna-9501Lydia wasn't literally IN an episode, but in the episode Lisa The Boy Scout (season 34, episode 3), features two hackers who look remarkably like Lydia and her husband. Matt Selman didn't outright say that it was, but he knows about her, and judging by some of her tweets he's liked, and the way he worded his response when she asked him, it's pretty safe to say that yes, it's definitely Lydia.
Can you do a video about Carter because he might be more psychotic than Peter. Carter tortured Peter over the seasons with different things like making him eat a pinecone for example. Also Carter's company found the cure to Cancer but being greedy he didnt released the information to the world about the cure
I miss old Peter :(
i don't like old peter, i love new peter hes so adorable
@@Slayyyaphine are you kidding?
@@Slayyyaphine Yes, I’m sure abusive psychos are totally “adorable”.
@@SlayyyaphineMore like a jackass.😠
Me too. Stupid writers.
It’s crazy that we live in an age now where Stewie is not the obvious answer when it comes to who the biggest psychopath is in Family Guy. There was a time where he would’ve been the only appropriate answer, shows you how much has changed
Always a great day when lydia uploads. Been watching Simpsons theory since the haans moleman king theory. Thank you.
Hey Mat! That's awesome to hear, thank you so much! That Moleman video was such a fun video to make haha Love that little guy
I''ve been watching clips from old Family Guy and it's almost heartwarming the way Peter showed love to his family, Lois was caring and Chris wasn't stupid more like and teenager. The only thing I like now is Stewie and Brian's relationship
I love old family guy, felt like a real dad and almost made me think he shouldnt be animated by how much he loves his family at times.
I love old stewie hes not annoyingly in your face, gay and instead hes evil and devious
Oddly enough Quagmire is getting better. And they really should do more with Joe and Cleveland. Hell Cleveland has a family that basically mirrors Peters, but you never see Chris and Cleveland Jr. do anything together let alone interact and both of them are social outcasts in school. Meg and Roberta seem like polar opposites and at face value they are, but I think both of their personalities coming together could make for a storyline. Not to mention the fact that there are multiple characters and stories they could bring back and finish them. Stweie's ex-girlfriend Penelope or that British girl Eliza (the girl he was teaching to speak "properly") who vowed to take revenge on him after he killed her father are two good examples of this. Or how about somebody other than Peter maintains a friendship? Chris barely talks to Neil anymore, Megs friends basically disappeared, and Stewie, Brian, and Lois don't have any friends unless you count Bonnie and Lois as friends; but anytime those two interact on screen now it's always about something negative.
I really like this channel, it’s great background noise for when I’m either coding my game or making maps in Geometry Dash
I think the best way to call what they did to the characters might be things like "corruption arc" or "damnation arc"
A headcanon I've developed while rewatching the early series is that Peter worsened his mental capacity in the episode where Lois had him drink to be good at the piano, which has slowly developed him into the character we see today. And that's why Lois stays with him despite everything; because she feels guilty for creating the monster she's now married to
Peter used to be a nice and caring father. I don’t get why Family Guy completely ruined his character. They even ruined Brian’s character a bit too.
peter's behavior towards his family changed so much 2:30 sounds unreal now
The new season seems to be pushing more consistent characterization but like, how do you put that toothpaste back in the tube? Flanderization is hard to reverse
I completely agree, Peter used to be a good guy. He was a lovable 90s guy.
Modern Family Guy takes place in a darker version of the world of the early seasons or it's just a terrible nightmare Peter has.
the problem for me is that they turned peter into roger from american dad and it doesnt really work for his character
Yeah but roger is funny and sexy i mean.
The problem with Peter is that he is no longer a character. He's just a template for whatever the show needs him to be each episode.
Another problem is that Peter's current personality contradicts the title of the show 'Family Guy'
Peter griffin is the family guy version of Walter white except breaking bad is better than family guy and that saying something
Also, Walter White is smarter
@@Zachdude123 That the point
At least Family Guys doesn't insist upon itself, Lois.
Maybe the writers of Family Guy shouldn't be trying to make their show the next South Park.
South Park= Krusty Krab
Family Guy= Chum Bucket
Bro this channel is dope. These are my exact problems with what they've done with peter
They turned peter into eric cartman
They turned lois into a Psychopathic cheater
Bonnie is now always in a mood
They made brian into an absolute jerk
I absolutely have no idea what to say about Meg.
Chris has become stupider and stupider
Joe has become a shell of his former self
Why do we have so many filler episodes of characters going on dates only to end up having them breaking up?
Joe did cheat and then lost her friendship with Lois after the boner episode. Bonnie makes sense
You either die Hank Hill, or you live long enough to see yourself become Peter Griffin.
The old seasons were the best ones to be honest
My favorite episodes of the earlier seasons were about Lois and Peter's relationship. Meet the Quagmire and North by North Quahog are my favorite episode of the entire series. It sucks that the writers ruined their relationship.
The problem with writing dark humour is that you have to escalate it with each season and they've kinda backed themselves into a corner. Shows like Family guy and south park used to be shocking and cause controversy, now most people dont even bat an eye. Would anyone honestly be shocked if they did make peter a full blown herbert clone anymore?
South Park I still watch. They do shock humour so much better. More context and better writing in my opinion. Family Guy possesses no such qualities and FG tries too hard.
I don’t necessarily agree with that idea that with dark humor it has to keep escalating each season. Let’s look at South Park as an example since you brought it up. Cartman is still extremely funny in that show to this day. Yet I would argue that the darkest thing he has ever done was feed Scott Tenorman his own parents. Yet that happened years ago
@CoOlKyUbI96 Anyway, love South Park. American Dad is all I can take from Seth MacFarlane in cartoon form still. Oh and I'm not into The Simpsons anymore, I'd rather watch Futurama and there's another new series of that on the way too.
@@CoOlKyUbI96 and that was the peak of how dark Cartman could get so people where no longer shocked when he did dark things. They escalated and then couldn't get any worse, which was my point. Dark humour is easy to go too far too quickly, having grown adults eating butter's creamy goo isn't exactly wholesome and while funny it's not surprising that it's in south park, in fact yoy expect it. South park the stick of truth has Nazi foetus that the player has to kill in order to progress in the game and I didn't see anyone get shocked by it. Once you've peaked, then no more controversy.
@@GhostofKittyKatDawg South Park is still watchable almost 30 years later. Family Guy I haven't seen willingly in yeeeears. Just lost it's charm to me. I can't even watch the early stuff willingly, there's just no point. Maybe I just got used to watching shows where the characters develop idk. Simpsons I used to watch regularly as a kid too. It sold out long ago. American Dad I'll watch if it's on but it's also been years since I've seen that show too. Only one I watch religiously is South Park.
I laughed at the shenanigans of Peter at the start of the video and your description of Peter
I really miss the og days 😢 it's great until season 12-ish
I'd honestly recommend Ted (the tv show). It's hilarious if you grew up on this.
Edit: It's Seth that works that magic!
Always brighten my days greetings from Ecuador
Peter being a jerk was originally more like “I’m sick of going Christmas shopping for my family” or “I don’t wanna do this boring family thing”, now Peter being a jerk is like “I’m going to slaughter an entire family for going on a roller coaster before me”
Been rewatching old family guy episodes
And what makes his actions worse is he rarely if ever gets punished for his various evil deeds, if it were real life he’d be in jail either on death row or having been executed for the sheer amount of people he’s killed.
Peter was so lovable and understanding in the early seasons why do we need him to be such a asshole ? I mean Homer ... NEVER NEVER would have been like PETER IS
I honestly prefer American Dad due to the writers trying not to go hog wild as opposed to Family Guy not really caring how wild it gets.
Peters thought on:
Brian- Drinking Buddy that can be replaced
Stewie- Not much til Stewie beats him with a bat
Chris- see's him as a rival and jealous he' s hung.
Meg- Doesn't care what happens to her unless its Quagmire but thought she was a cat for a year.
Lois- unattractive for 1 year and a half but admits growing tired of someone easily.
Stan Smith, Homer Simpson, Bob Belcher and Philip J Fry all are better than Peter.
Stan still genuinely cared for Francine and his family. Fry remained as a sweet doofus. Homer mellowed out and still love Marge. Bob Belcher is the best cartoon dad.
Peter turned into an obnoxious and murderous psychopath
Even Hank Hill is better than Peter
6:16 he actually did take it out, Joe later in the episode tells Peter he has a glass eye now.
On a unrelated topic, Family Guy turns 25 years old, in 8 months.
Insane
Apparently a hot-take: I prefer the modern family guy. Maybe because I started to the watch the newer episodes before I watched the first seasons
Don't watch Family Guy much but appears the flanderization became immense once McFarlane stopped writing since a lot of the complaints I hear about modern family guy is how there are no likeable characters with everyone being an arse and the Griffin family doesn't act like a family anymore. Similar to the jerkass Homer phase of Simpsons so maybe like that they'll be a change to make Peter more likeable like they' did with Homer?
Idk since the Simpsons usually tended to try and ground itself in reality comparatively whereas Family Guy has a lot of shock humour which the audience probably prefer that being amped up over making the characters more grounded and risk going boring like many more modern Simpsons episodes fell victim to.
In the late 90s we got Jerkass Homer, it could have been worse but Dan Castellenata put his foot down sometimes when he thought it went way too far. The problem is Family Guy fell into the same trap but went so much further, this is the problem with shock humour, eventually you have to outdo yourself until either people become numb or disgusted. After 20 years, it's nearly impossible for this not to happen.
American Dad is still pretty good some how
What they did to Joe pisses me off the most
We need hardcore Joe back. Also, he was good handicapped representation
Peter basically went from being the main protagonist of the show to being one of the show's worst antagonists. He's basically a villain at this point, if not a supervillain.
I honestly never realized how much of a danger Peter is to children in particular. I think that goes to show how much Family Guy’s edgy humor has lost its edge (ha ha). It’s less shocking and more upsetting, almost like a slow burn
I think what made Peter charming in the first few seasons was how stupid he was. It was funny to see the lengths he’d go to for big things, usually without any thought.
Nowadays, I feel Peter is a lot smarter than he lets on. He beats down on Lois so much that it feels almost abusive. He knows she could do so much better, so he makes her feel unattractive and unappealing in return. In one of the recent episodes, Lois began to talk about how their relationship was going, and Peter literally said he’d kill himself if she left him. Lois sighed and Peter smiled. It honestly made me sick to my stomach and I think might’ve been my new breaking point
I am so glad that Stan from American Dad had the same problems, but they decided not to roll with it and made him actually a flawed but deep person who loves his wife and children as he can
I don’t know why but I find it kind of hard to believe that Peter cared for his family one minute and in the later seasons Peter pretty much became a heartless idiotically purse then again that’s family guy for ya
5:05 "His parent skills have taken a nosedive" said casually while showing Peter straight up whipping his kids. Yeah I mean I would certainly question his father skills at that point LMFAO.
I tried liking Peter, but seeing more of the crimes he committed and all the times he abused Meg... I couldn't really admire him. He's a complete psychopath, yet he doesn't go to jail! What?! (I know he did go to jail on a few occasions, but he needs to be there permanently!) Just why should we watch a man who goes around killing everyone, yet his family and friends forgive him?! 😤 And I can't ever forgive him for admitting he hated his kids! 😡 So I don't care whether or not his character gets redeemed! He doesn't deserve to be admired for all the crimes he's committed!
The thing is, Family Guy took the same trajectory as The Simpsons when it started to decline, it focused more on the comedy and less on the characters. But while The Simpsons's comedy just got kind of stale and repetitive, for some reason the Family Guy writers became really cynical and dark, so they just turned every character into the worst possible version of themselves for the sake of shock humour, especially Peter. And that'd be fine if A) the shock humour was always clever or B) you were never meant to have any emotional investment in the characters. But neither of those are true. They took characters you liked and turned them all into assholes for the sake of either showing as much blood and viscera as they could get away with or just telling people that the world sucks and people suck. It's really sad when you think about it.
EDIT: For the sake of fairness, I have not watched new Family Guy episodes for the last couple of seasons, so it is entirely possible they've been trying to rectify all these points. But they just went so far down this rabbit hole prior to that, by the later seasons, I just had to tune out.
peter used to be a good dad,now he abuses everyone,I don't like that,peter should be in jail
Early Peter Griffin was loveable. I remember family gatherings I'd avoid, watching holiday specials and stuffing my face with the cousins. The early seasons still take me back to good old fashioned family values on which I used to rely.
Easy, the writers want to end the show but Fox won't let them
Maybe the writer strike will finally put a stop to this crap.
@@TheSnicker1980 Or it might give them a break and hopefully give them new ideas
You're right about the change in the landscape, but with different writers all the time, you'll get those changes naturally. I still like the old Family Guy on principle because of the more muted and down to earth stories. That being said, I'm not above liking their fart jokes. ;)
He's supposed to be a family guy.
From "Lucky theres a Family Guy" to "Unlucky theres a Family Abuser".
Do the downfall of Lois Griffin Lydia Please
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Do the Brian Griffin relationship with all his girlfriends Lydia Please
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Peter went from a lovable oaf to an abusive sociopath. Meg and Chris went from somewhat fleshed out characters to on-call plot devices. Lois became disillusioned, alcoholic and neglectful. Brian went from a voice of reason to an entitled jerk.
Family Guy is unwatchable in 2023.
The term “jumped the shark” comes to mind (in regards to the later seasons of Family Guy).
American Dad > Family Guy
real.
They went from an animated family sitcom to an animated gore freak show. Super interesting really.
I hate the joke of Peter being a pedo - it does not connect to anything in the series nor much of his character in both old and new series! He's meant to want woman way out of his league but I guess they gave that to Brian instead but that got old real fast.
Since Peter is married he shouldn't even think about anyone else, and he should at least not let his wife know about it. 😒
The writers making him a predator was really sad to see honestly