As the show has gone on, Lois became more and more the character who hated her life choices. Bullying Meg to make herself feel better, cheating on Peter and regretting her marriage, and doing anything to make her “happier”
The extreme cleaning episode highlighted this in a big way. By the end, she had thrown every member of her family out of the house only to discover that she felt truly empty, she needs all the distractions and craziness in her life in order to forget how little she actually has going for her in her own life. When she said a mother has nothing if she no longer has groceries, she literally meant it.
@@spicybeantofu I'd say he's pretty happy lol. He's kind of an egomaniac and a pessimist which shows through Brian. But he does a looooot more than family guy. You'd be blown away how many projects he's been a part of. He gets to choose to do whatever interests him because of the acclaim family guy got him. But he's kind of obligated to keep the show running at this point and I think that sense of obligation shows in the tone of the show now. Especially with how much more mean spirited it gets the farther in you go.
@@spicybeantofu Seth mostly has walked away from those shows; Family Guy and American Dad, he makes like almost no input on them except he does a bunch of the voices. American Dad is all left now to Matt Weitzman, one of the 3 original creators for it. As for Family Guy, he's admitted on record he hasn't like helped write an episode since I think at the latest 2010.
I remember the other plot to that story was pretty good but I forget what it was. K just searched it up its the one where stewie dresses as a girl so he can be on the US version of Jolly Farm.
if that's what you like then you should watch "for better or for worse". it's a (rather short lived) TV version of the comic strip series of the same name about the patterson family who go about their daily lives with their family and friends in toronto. the comedy is very subtle and very down to earth (unlike shows like family guy where everything is outlandish and in your face) and it's just overall a wholesome as fuck series for people that want a adult show that actually feels like it was made for adults. careful if you move onto the comics,though because i guess they get a bit darker with more series topic such as one girl cutting her hair short for the soul reason that she had a step-dad (or just her mom's boyfriend. i can't remember that exact detail) that was basically molesting/sexually harassing her and would do so while talking about how pretty her hair is. so ya,if you go past the show you'll find more serious topics so just kind of be ready for that.
I think Lois hates Meg the most because she is jealous of her. Meg has proven herself to be extremely capable in many circumstances and most likely has an extremely bright future, whereas Lois married a pool boy and became a housewife despite once having the same outlook. It would explain why Peter is a lot nicer without her there, he appears to be happy and content with the majority of his life so it wouldn't bother him. Basically she is bitter about how her life turned out and wants to bring Meg down to such a level so as to feel superior. This along with her complete inability to take blame, and general superiority complex most likely fuelled by her extremely privileged upbringing, makes her character one of the worst narcissists I've ever seen on TV.
Yeah you are right but i think lois nowadays just doesnt do anything for meg. I think the most recent thing what lois did to meg is to support peter to do something for meg, witch is to wrote her in to college
I think you're completely spot on! Also, she might be jealous of how much better of a mother Meg will possibly be in the future. In the episode where Chris, Meg, Peter and Lois swap roles, Meg is shown to easily handle the housework and childcare better than Lois, showing that the way Lois frets and complains is pathetic and how held together Meg is throughout her role as a housewife and mother.
True there is a saying everyone is a king so long as they have some one to look down on it’s safe to say if Meg ever left she would look for someone else to put down
I wanted to add that I think younger Lois was OK with Peter but now can't stand him. I actually think Peter is the strain in their relationship because he doesn't give Lois the freedom that she craves. I also think that Peter fell out of love with her which train wrecked her self-esteem, so she does it to Meg.
Marge always was and still is an actual good mother and wife and person in general. She makes mistakes but always tried to fix them or do better. Lois used to be pretty good but at some point became a sadistic sociopath
you guys have to start looking at Marge and Barts relationship as an apt comparison and not marge and lisa's as he's also the family's dysfunctional lightning rod . i admit the chunky think is on point because the last time lisa developed an eating disorder marge ignored it in favor of nelson, but blatant favortism shown by marge and homer is a huge problem. remember when lisa crippled bart marge's response was to get upset at him not only did she blame because it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't better then her, but she and the episode treated bart as a sociopath for not thinking about lisa's feelings. the sad thing i'm inclined to see homer as the better parent of the two.
I agree, Marge Simpson really IS the better mother character than Lois Griffin is now. Although Lois used to be a good one too until those damn writers just had to change her.
@@asherose9149 Compared to Family Guy, the Simpsons are wholesome but far from being a perfect family. I've seen in the old episodes that Lisa is the favorite child. She's intelligent, gifted in music, level headed, and everyone accepts her. Bart on the other hand isn't so lucky. He's wild, dangerous, and a trouble maker, the school hates him, the town pretty much hates him, and both his parents barely tolerate him. The only thing that separates them is that Bart has friends, while Lisa is socially awkward with no friends. Bart is such a troublemaker that Marge would yell, "Bart! NO!" on instinct, because he's known to cause many problems, and when Lisa would be the one who did something bad, like ruining a BBQ that Homer does to one up Flanders because she chose to go vegetarian and tried to force her whole family into doing it too, then she would say that line, and when they scolded her for this, they would react to Bart instead, not knowing how to handle this coming from the "perfect child".
Something that a lot of people seem to forget about Lois is that she used to the popular rich party girl who bullied the unpopular kids at her school, and it's very clear what the writers want to state: How could a person like that grow into a meek submissive housewife figure without any resting behavior. Lois never really grew out of her toxic behavior and it shows, most notably with Meg the type of "geeky" unpopular girl that she treats exactly like she would've have her victims in her teenhood. Also i really didn't like the aspect of Lois character where she's never portrayed is being in the wrong and always always with an excuse to fall back on. Though some newer episodes are pushing her away from that, notably "Customer of the Week" and that was great.
What I find ironic about lois is that she grew up rich but doesn't want to be rich herself, she's happier being upper middle class and is happy with her family being upper middle class. In fact what's even weirder is in the earlier seasons Consuela was their housekeeper for a while but eventually Consuela was fazed out and Lois does most of the housework now. I don't know where I was going with this, I guess the point i'm trying to make is that her past doesn't match up with her present.
Although she started positive, Family Guys's writers wanted Lois to be less boring, but in doing so make her very unlikable. Through stories of her past sex life, child upbringing and unhinged temperament, we got to see other sides of Lois that made her 'interesting' , but left a bad taste in our mouth of how low she would go. In short, Lois has gone downhill from responsible housewife to responsible for everyone's misery.
Lois having an addictive personality is something that I think should be explored more, or at least should be acknowledged in universe. She has so many episodes centered around her easily getting too involved with something, but they never seem to be connected as part of her personality. Every time it happens everyone seems shocked even though it happens literally every time she gets involved in something new.
It's crazy to see how awful Lois became. I used to love her character but I've started to dislike her. I definitely feel like they could've given Lois a dark side without making her as bad as she is. She could've been the "mom you don't anger" role really well. Now she's a "you even look in my direction you're done" mom.
i agree. i think the writers thought it’d be funny to have a running joke about everyone hating meg but they probably should’ve just kept that to peter. it’s overkill at this point and the joke stopped being funny a long time ago. she used to be the scapegoat and now she’s just a victim lol. this goes to show that family guy has lost the heart of its show and solely relies on gags over their characters. people say that it’s supposed to be a comedy and not taken seriously, but i’ve seen way funnier adult cartoons that also touch on real subjects. bojack horseman always comes to mind. family guy started out as a satirical raunchy comedy and turned into something far worse
@@crab2195 I've never agreed with a reply so much in my life. You perfectly explained how I feel. Not only that but family guy still has the family adore each other and come together no matter what the circumstances. Even though Peter would rag on meg, he was also ready to give Meg money for a purse in the episode where meg pretends to be a teen mom in the first few seasons. He pulled out his wallet happily when Meg asked for a new purse, unfortunately he couldn't afford the Prada bag she wanted, but he also still loved his daughter. The close moments they had in the beginning made it very obvious Peter was just joking, in the show he is "mentally retarded" which is from the writers not me saying it, so his jokes were always weird and messed up but not hateful like now. He loved his daughter and adored her and would do anything for her. Now he just completely hates meg practically. The whole family. I remember when Lois took Meg to get a makeover. Even though she said a lil rude comment at the end when Meg said it's work being pretty "not for me it is" she was still willing to help out her daughter and make her daughter feel beautiful but also did try to tell Meg she was beautiful the way she was at the beginning of the episode. I don't think the comment was geared towards Meg being ugly. More so Lois just trying to make herself look good. The one thing I will say is they brought Chris back into Meg's inner circle. They had him hating on her for awhile but now they stick together and anytime he does rag on her it's more brotherly than pure hate.
@@nevaehonrefni exactly! i’m so glad we both see the show for what it’s becoming. my favorite word comes to mind: flanderization. not sure if you heard of it but it comes from the simpsons, where a characters personality is over exaggerated throughout the show and relegates them to one trait. i find that so interesting because that’s exactly what happened to family guy. peter started off as “mentally retarded” but crossed the line into plain idiotic and nonsensical. lois started out as a mother with a wild side, and turned into a terrible mom with no redeeming qualities. i know people say the same of all other characters but those were the two you mentioned and i agree! the show has fallen victim to poor writing and lazy character design. i find it so hard to enjoy the show at this point because there’s so many adult cartoons that do what they’re trying to do, but actually succeed. the fact that i cried watching cartoon characters die in bojack horseman shows how powerful this form of art can be. but no. the writers seem to think their cutaways were what made people love the show. they’re wrong. they kept us entertained, but the heart of its show was in its characters. they mention at the end of this video that lois stands out from the rest of the tv moms and i have to disagree. like you said, she could’ve been the “mom you don’t anger”. she could’ve been a character with nuance and flaws (which isn’t very common for mothers on tv), while still having some sort of empathy. i hate to see what the show has become, but seeing that there is much better out there… perhaps family guy has had its time.
@@crab2195 it's why I really enjoy American Dad. The family has it's times with each other but they always come back together still. American Dad has only gotten better as the seasons go on. We also have to realize Seth doesn't write for Family Guy anymore, but he does write for American Dad❤️
It's a Shame that while Wilma is still Iconic,Marge is Still Likable and Solid Enough,and Francine is a Fun Character that gets Better More and More,however Lois Griffin Used to be Likable,She's Declining in the Opposite Direction than Francine and gotten Worse that's Impossible to Redeem,I Guess Peter is the One to Blame from This.
When you had the poll for who was the worst person on the show, I chose Lois. And you perfectly demonstrated my reasons. I love every character, but she has been a standout for a long time. She is SO subtlety evil. I love it.
@@sosososososo123 The thing is though peter isn’t self aware about his actions he’s like a kid making mistakes because they don’t realize the weight of their action lois on the other hand is very much self aware and that’s what makes her worst (it was explained in the video better) ps. not excusing peter btw i mean the whole family is terrible but he’s definitely a tamer character
Next Family Guy video you should do is the Decline of Brian, who I feel got the worst decline of any of the other Griffin members, especially after being brought back to live after his death.
@TheRapper10000 True, but over the years he's also done many other things worse than being a liberal hypocrite. Like ignoring the fact that Stewie's babysitter pulled his arm out of the socket after he discovered she was hot. Or going for Patty, a high school girl, after he saw her half naked in the locker room. Etc. He wasn't always a straight up creep.
I’m ngl. Lois shows a very specific representation of abuse between mother & daughter that occurs almost regularly in abusive households. Lois almost sees her daughter as competition for male attention. She knows that she’s probably the most attractive woman in quohog, and also resents her daughter for her youthfulness. I’m fully aware that this isn’t what the creators wanted to showcase, BUT it all comes together surprisingly cleanly. I’m also gonna be honest, I think Meg has Borderline Personality Disorder (I have BPD and I see a LOT of my behaviors in her) but that’s a discussion for another day
yeah, I mean her sister is definitely more like her mom because both are very caring and soft people, lois was obviously a daddy’s girl when she was younger
Linda Belcher is by far my favorite cartoon mom, she has shifts with some of her kids, especially Louise but you can still tell how much she loves and cares about her kids
I think the reason why she hates Meg is because Meg is the results of an affair she had with a guy named Stan. Peter knows that Meg isn't his real daughter. Lois wishes that Meg will unalive herself so that way the affair that she had will be forever gone. Lois is trying to get Meg to do it by bullying her and making her life a living hell. You're right about Peter being an okay dad to Meg when Lois isn't around. I've seen episodes where he does try to be a good dad to Meg. When Meg was getting bullied at school in the mid-early episodes, he did almost killed Meg's bully because Meg told him about it. When Meg was tricked into having sex with a celebrity on live TV, Peter attacked the host celebrity but didn't know that the celebrity was the one who tricked Meg into having sex with him. Peter even forced a med doctor into marrying Meg when she thought she was pregnant, but it was her period being late.
I'm not sure that Meg is the product of an affair, she could likely just be the child of a previous relationship. Remember, Lois lived a pretty wild life before marrying Peter, including having a drug addiction and doing porn. When she became pregnant, Peter, realizing that Lois is way out of his league, uses the pregnancy to reverse baby trap her into marriage. Unfortunately, Peter resents Meg for not being his child, and Lois resents Meg because she married Peter to give her a father, but misses the rich girl, party lifestyle she used to enjoy.
Well once they did say that Meg's real father was someone named Stan Thompson. Must've been Lois's former fiancee from her classy life and the one who got her pregnant with Meg first.
@@kariebossa4851 Honestly, Lois is the only character that kind of makes sense to be the way she is, but the show might have been funnier if it wasn't a family sitcom but about Peter trying to win over a crazy, rich country-club party girl who's dad dislikes him.
I like her more because she is funny without feeling unlikable or malicious by default. She just does a lot of wacky stuff that is atypical of the cliche stay-at-home kitchen wife with a baby. She is actually a fun subversion. She is one of the few female characters in shows like this, where she owns a lot of it too, like her in the spanking kink she has and its not portrayed as a bad thing.
I liked the concept where they show you peter and lois as "normal" at the beginning of the series to evolve to evil, also that meg now has more character hopefully they give her more episodes with her son who lives in her locker and meeting peter and lois i dont want to imagine what they could do to the baby if i lived with meg in the house
Marge Simpson remains to be one of the best animated female characters ever. Her and Homer's marriage isn't perfect; but you can tell they love each other, and would move Heaven and Earth for one another. There have been so many times their marriage has come close to breaking point, but the two of them are in tears begging for forgiveness. One of the best Episodes ever (if I could remember it's name) is when Homer is photographed dancing with a Stripper; and publicly apologizes to the entire auditorium with Marge there just to prove how sorry he is. It's absolutely soul crushing. For as flawed as the newer seasons are, the Simpsons Marriage is incredible. Lois and Peter? Yeah, no. Sure, Peter is a total dumbass but the way Lois is written makes you think he's one of the most evil people on Earth. I'm not overly fond of abusive male characters in anything, and the same goes for females.
@@daniapfel2825 Why the fuck are you responding with “the old Lois is dead” on almost every single comment? As IF everyone else commenting is somehow unaware of it despite the fact that most people are acknowledging it?
I'm going to be honest, I've come to really sympathize with Meg over the years as I realize that I have a mother similar to Lois (manipulative, uncaring, sociopathic, incapable of accepting personal faults, abusive, alcoholic, cheating, greedy, etc.) Thinking about it, I guess it's lead to me seeing Family Guy as a more _"realistic"_ depiction of familial relationships as opposed to the Simpsions which seems like an idealized, unattainable fantasy. 'Course that's my own life experience painting that view, and it's not the same for everyone, but I suppose I appreciate the depiction of parents who are out and out horrible pieces of shit that treat their children and everyone around them like garbage, because that's what has defined the word "parents" to me and many other people. Sometimes, your mother is a garbage human who squanders every single chance they get to be better, and they don't deserve a shred of care, love, nor empathy from their children. _That_ is what Lois represents. *Edit: Actually, on further reflection, my mother is _extremely_ similar to Lois, down to the fake posturing to convince other people that she's a good person. ... I'm going to go talk a walk, I think...
If the writers weren't so lazy and fixated on sensationalism, they could have made Lois an interesting, well-rounded person who wasn't just a housewife without out-Flanderizing Flanders and nearly all of the rest of the characters on the Simpsons. In their efforts to make her be something more than a housewife, they have made her nothing more than a monster.
Its why I like Francine better. For some reason Lois just seems to be doomed to being a mess because the writers seem to treat all the characters as just extensions of the awfulness they give Peter.
I actually loved Alana as the new Lois in the last season, Lois is just an annoying person (her voice is one main factor here). Alana had a solid reason to kill Lois, shame she ended up in prison though. Great vid as always Lydia! By the way, where did you get your Simpson's, Family Guy and other avatars from? ❤️
She could be a bit compared with Nicole from Amazing World of Gumball, since Nicole is the most agressive from the family and i guess from the town too. But at least Nicole is still a responsable mother and tryes to care for her kids. Why did Louis become more abusive is beyond me.
comparing the present Lois with Nicole is absurd. they're way, wayy far off. Nicole is an amazing mom & partner despite her rage 'issues'. besides, all her rage are almost always very much justified lmao
TAWOG Is much more different, Nicole had to grow up with VERY strict parents and when she finally escaped them she had to take care of a big baby man, and 3 children, while Lois? She brings the absolute WORST in Peter, she didn't went insane because of him, she let everyone go insane. Nicole is a good partner and mother, she is *caring* , and don't blame everyone for her issues, as for Lois? Lois just can't accept she's straight up a bad person, she's narcissistic, neglectful and not trustworthy at all
@@chuckschuldinerisgodly exactly yes she has anger problems but she LOVES her family and god help anyone who hurts family Lois is just a horrible mother and person Remember that scene in the car with stewie the coffee shop episode where she's narcissistically talking about how good she is and Stewie is correcting her yea that's a good scene to point to explaining how bad she is
I don't have a real problem with Lois 'going downhill'. In my mind, she is a realistic representation of many wives and mothers. Women who feel trapped by their roles and rarely if ever feel appreciated and fulfilled
I’d love to see your take on Stan and Francine from American dad. It obviously is heavily related to family guy because it has the same creators, but for how insane the couple is they do genuinely love each other. And even when they’re mean to the kids, they still seem to maintain a good relationship
Francine is way better then Lois Griffin and every way but she can be herself quite problematic for example see babies her youngest child to no extent and one's broken to the CIA headquarters and infected him with a special formula that made him a baby again and constantly tries to stop him from growing up but personally I think that personality could have been added to Lois Griffin
@@thermslusitania1151 At least despite that action being wrong in every way and kind of creepy, it comes from a place of love. Lois would never do that out of love. Moreso out of a need for control.
"Seth McFarlane made it no secret that Family Guy owes a lot from the Simpsons." "We act like we didn't take a lot from the Simpsons, but we took A LOT from the Simpsons."
Does that mean ever have an original idea .Fam guy is a rip off of the Simpsons and his space show is def a rip off of star trek and that's the two I can remember..not an ounce of originality, even using Marge's gambling addiction storyline and give it to Lois..not even changing it up and maybe having her addicted to food but nah just gambling..
@@reaper2579 ever since she met Paul McCartney fun fact when Paul McCartney appeared on the simpsons one request he had was Lisa would remain a vegetarian from that date onwards and they respected his request
I like the idea that Peter acts the way he does because Lois makes him unhappy. Because when she’s not around, specifically during that Christmas episode, Peter is a good father and even a good person.
She’s shown some Karen traits and I’ve just grown tired of her. (SPOILERS) One of the later episodes, she told Quagmire to not hit on her, and when he listens to her and doesn’t hit on her and instead hits on another female, she gets upset. She just became so annoying that I kind of dread any screen time she has.
I think when Louis downfall really begin was when she cheated on Peter with Clinton. Even though her reputation of the perfect and caring housewife was in question a little before but her infidelity was the icing on the cake at least for me
Yeah, same honestly. It was the point where the writers decided to push her in that unfaithful way and weren’t afraid to throw their marriage to the toilet for a few cheap gags.
All the characters are awful when you really break it all down. You can't really take it too seriously otherwise it'll ruin the whole show for you. This video is very interesting however. It shows how interesting she has become over time.
You basically made the point I was going to make. The exasperated den-mother archetype has been done a million times, so at least she's more interesting now. I actually think it's interesting comparing her degeneration to Brian's. The latter I think ruined the character, whereas Lois I think it improved hers.
I honestly feel like lois is a bit worse than brain in the new seasons because while yes he is a MAJOR douchebag, he doesnt physically abuse people. In the newer seasons he even sometimes defends meg. TLDR:Lois is a bitch and worse than Brian
In seashell sea horse party I questioned how she went from realizing she’s a terrible person to again blaming meg idk why if Lois can why meg couldn’t change too in fact that episode was the perfect time to change her character into someone who isn’t bullied by her family
I can’t remember the name of the episode were Meg went to jail but that episode was another one where she was running the house a as bf everyone even Lois was scared of her… but Brian again had to be the person to stop her and have her go back to the bullied child and act like it didn’t happen. If it came down to though Meg could pull one over the family because she is very smarter than her family(maybe not as smart as stewie but close) and they showed it I can’t remember what season or the name but it’s just glossed over and I’m waiting for her and stewie to pull one over on the family because I know she can full understand him and if I’m not mistaken her rooms closer to his so I know she knows what’s going on in his room…
I don't really like new Lois, old Lois was more interesting to me because she had a more sympathetic side. However I agree that she is pretty similar to a lot of other animated sitcom moms.
Yeah I think that they have gone too far with Lois. I would prefer if she went back to being more motherly but with a crazy streak to keep her character different and interesting.
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Sorry, Lydia. But, Homer and Bart have a better relationship, than Lois and Meg combined. And that's including, Stan and Hayley. I mean is she jealous of, Meg or something?! 💯🙂👍 Edit: Wow, I didn't expect to get so many likes, thanks guys!
I think one of the reasons Lois abuses Meg so much is because, she blames Meg, or rather her birth, for why she is ‘stuck’ with Peter. There was even an episode where Lois immediately regretted marrying Peter, but she was already pregnant with Meg, so she felt like she couldn’t back out of her doomed marriage. Sadly, some families in real life have this, where a parent hates or heavily resents the 1st born child more than the other children, because they would rather blame a child rather than themselves for why their marriage is awful.
@@daniapfel2825 Me: Dragon Shenron I SUMMON YOU!!! 🐲Dragon: What is your wish? Me: I wish that the former Lois Griffin be brought back to life! 🐲Dragon: So be it. *dragon eyes glow* Your wish has been granted. Farewell.
My honest views on Lois are a toss-up at this point. On one hand, I miss her in the earlier seasons when she was always a great wife and even better mother. She would help prop up the family whenever they were down or in trouble and has proven to be both patient and intelligent. On the other hand, her antics in the later seasons make her a little bit crazy and obsessive, but it also proves that she's a human who makes human mistakes. Lois' recent episodes show that she's definitely not perfect, which is good and realistic if you can see your own limits.
There's a difference between "Not being perfect" and making out with your daughter's underage boyfriend because of your insecurities, putting your children in danger because of your addictions, being all kinds of abusive to your partner, being verbally and mentally abusive to your kids, cheating on your spouse instead of being an adult and just getting a divorce, letting your family struggle financially despite having rich parents that are willing to give you money if really needed to, killing/making out with your son's underage "girlfriend" because of your insecurities, not taking accountability and playing victim when called out, obsessing and endangering the lives of Starbucks employees just for not getting employee of the month, and the list goes on. There is literally no excuse for her. This is not "Human mistakes" A mistake would be accidentally hurting your family in some way with an innocently intended act or statement but she does this intentionally.
It's good to give characters flaws but even as a comedy,this shit isn't funny💀like I don't think building characters flaws means making them sleep with your own daughters boyfriend 😐
I think Lois enjoys playing the martyr. That's the only reason she hasn't left Peter; if she leaves this awful marriage, she wouldn't be able to whine and complain, and thus garner anything from sympathy for her endless suffering to admiration over what a saint she must be to still be with a buffoon like Peter. Lois is from a rich family, so money is no issue, and she doesn't give a rat's tail about her kids, meaning they aren't an obstacle, either. Honestly, it's looking more and more like Lois is essentially playing house, with Peter as her charity case and all three kids being accidents. Actually, I wonder if they'd actually do that for like, the finale or something; it'd be the best twist ever. All three Griffin kids learn that they're just unwanted side-effects of the game their mother's been playing with some hapless moron for decades. Meg is hated for being the firstborn and thus the reason Lois couldn't just dip out anytime she wanted, thus ruining her fun because now she has actual responsibility. Chris is an affair baby (explaining his randomly blond hair) who is treated a little better because Lois wanted to see how long it would take Peter to notice Chris wasn't his, which he has yet to do and this amuses Lois. Stewie's former drive to kill Lois was an instinct that she wasn't right in the head, which only faded because he grew used to the feeling until it went away.
Exactly as bad as Peter is to call a spade a spade Peter is Lois's bitch she can do almost anything to him and he won't leave most guys wouldn't do it for fuck sake even Quagmire would have more self respect for himself And I don't want to be " that guy " but I don't like how they made that time she raped Peter into a comedy bit for laughs imagine the other way round OMFG the outrage the screaming etc
Quagmire's decline would be an interesting one, personally, I think that he is the character that I feel further ashamed of his descent, since the episode when he began to hate Brian, his essence changed awfully.
I don't like Lois. She used to be a good character, but when she started being awful to Meg, it made me lose all faith in her. I still watch the show, and yes, it makes me laugh, but I still can't look past how much Lois reminds me of my mother.
I haven’t watched Family Guy on a regular basis for a long time. She comes off as someone who grows a strong passion for something and stops caring about anything else or anyone. But then of course it always goes back to the status quo.
Brian and Lois who were once they best characters, are now easily the worst!!! Sad to see, but that’s modern Family Guy for you. Modern Simpsons >>> Modern Family Guy
Pretty much as any character in FG, she got flanderized. Can never get into the show since then. Say what you will about Marge Simpson, but she as always been a consistently caring mother.
I never realized until watching your videos how after a certain episode of Family guy you will see how the character (For example Lois, Brian,and Stewie) slowly change. You dont really think about it until you go back or someone points it out.
Lois is probably my most hated character on the the show aside from Bryan. She kinda became more annoying over the years and now looking back I really sympathize for Meg more so that she became my favorite character on the show.
I think Lois is sad with her life and chooses to go after her family because they drive her insane. But I think she’s the worst to Meg because: A: Meg make her feel insecure, B: Meg is the easiest to push around. Honestly she should get her kids taken away from her
Remember when Lois kidnapped a kid because his parents didnt vaccinate him, and then she didn't want want her own child to be vaccinated in an other episode. She is a hypocrite.
8:50 I forgot after watching that episode that Peter is kind to Meg when Lois isn’t around and explains episodes where he is nice but lois is never there when it happens
People love to hate "old" family guy because it's dated now, but I like them because they're the FEW times Lois actually was a mother. By season 4, she was a parody of a parody of what she once was.
I didn't think about that. You're right. She was rather forgetable in the first two seasons. Perhaps seasons 3 and 4 were her best. Maybe some seasons later as well.
I actually like the development of Lois, you see how the family dynamic is ever changing how the family view each other, kinda like reality . Also I feel they had to make Lois more outrageous because of how outrageous the family itself is , I mean a evil baby and a level 4 adult husband would make any nice person crazy lol, and I think because she is starting to dislike her life she develops a addictive personality either things she takes interest with
Glad you made this I was finally done with her when she tried to kill Stewie and sniffed the dead constructor twin brother at the funeral.. she just as low as quagmire and Herbert where in the earlier seasons lol
Lois was on a decline ever since Meg made her cry, only reason she went back to assaulting Meg was because Meg made it so(also when she was trying to become customer of the week, does anyone know the song that played)
I really really hope, that in the last episode, meg lives on the opposite side of the world with a lovely healthy family, and she gets a call from her parents and she just looks at it, ignores it.... it would give me so much satisfaction
Something that makes me laugh is in season 4 when Brian becomes a taxi driver. Peter takes a rude with him and Lois is in front of them; Peter just starts shooting the wheels out on louis’ car and says “but I got you right” and then lois says “yeah you got me 🤣” Peter and Lois just start belly laughing at the violence. This is what made Lois such a funny character to me 🤣
As the show has gone on, Lois became more and more the character who hated her life choices. Bullying Meg to make herself feel better, cheating on Peter and regretting her marriage, and doing anything to make her “happier”
Yeah I think Seth is a very unhappy person and he has shown his decline in his shows.
The extreme cleaning episode highlighted this in a big way. By the end, she had thrown every member of her family out of the house only to discover that she felt truly empty, she needs all the distractions and craziness in her life in order to forget how little she actually has going for her in her own life.
When she said a mother has nothing if she no longer has groceries, she literally meant it.
She also forced herself onto Peter more than once
@@spicybeantofu I'd say he's pretty happy lol. He's kind of an egomaniac and a pessimist which shows through Brian. But he does a looooot more than family guy. You'd be blown away how many projects he's been a part of. He gets to choose to do whatever interests him because of the acclaim family guy got him. But he's kind of obligated to keep the show running at this point and I think that sense of obligation shows in the tone of the show now. Especially with how much more mean spirited it gets the farther in you go.
@@spicybeantofu Seth mostly has walked away from those shows; Family Guy and American Dad, he makes like almost no input on them except he does a bunch of the voices. American Dad is all left now to Matt Weitzman, one of the 3 original creators for it. As for Family Guy, he's admitted on record he hasn't like helped write an episode since I think at the latest 2010.
For me, I lost any good will for Louis when she tried to seduce Meg's boyfriend. That's a particularly brand of cruelty.
I remember the other plot to that story was pretty good but I forget what it was. K just searched it up its the one where stewie dresses as a girl so he can be on the US version of Jolly Farm.
How tf are you here a hour ago this video has only been uploaded 3 minutes ago
@@TheRealBFGman Patreon, baby!
@@tenebrousoul9368 ohhhhh ok
So do I
This is why Bob's Burgers is my favourite adult cartoon show. It's nice to see a family that actually like each other.
What did you think of the movie? 🍔
@@LydiaLovesTimelines Loved it! Great songs. Had all the charm of the main show and then some. It's what we need right now.
@@JoeB17 I loved it too! Had a blast watching it
if that's what you like then you should watch "for better or for worse". it's a (rather short lived) TV version of the comic strip series of the same name about the patterson family who go about their daily lives with their family and friends in toronto. the comedy is very subtle and very down to earth (unlike shows like family guy where everything is outlandish and in your face) and it's just overall a wholesome as fuck series for people that want a adult show that actually feels like it was made for adults.
careful if you move onto the comics,though because i guess they get a bit darker with more series topic such as one girl cutting her hair short for the soul reason that she had a step-dad (or just her mom's boyfriend. i can't remember that exact detail) that was basically molesting/sexually harassing her and would do so while talking about how pretty her hair is. so ya,if you go past the show you'll find more serious topics so just kind of be ready for that.
I've been told about my own family that our love for each other is unrealistic.
I think Lois hates Meg the most because she is jealous of her. Meg has proven herself to be extremely capable in many circumstances and most likely has an extremely bright future, whereas Lois married a pool boy and became a housewife despite once having the same outlook. It would explain why Peter is a lot nicer without her there, he appears to be happy and content with the majority of his life so it wouldn't bother him.
Basically she is bitter about how her life turned out and wants to bring Meg down to such a level so as to feel superior. This along with her complete inability to take blame, and general superiority complex most likely fuelled by her extremely privileged upbringing, makes her character one of the worst narcissists I've ever seen on TV.
Yeah you are right but i think lois nowadays just doesnt do anything for meg. I think the most recent thing what lois did to meg is to support peter to do something for meg, witch is to wrote her in to college
I think you're completely spot on! Also, she might be jealous of how much better of a mother Meg will possibly be in the future. In the episode where Chris, Meg, Peter and Lois swap roles, Meg is shown to easily handle the housework and childcare better than Lois, showing that the way Lois frets and complains is pathetic and how held together Meg is throughout her role as a housewife and mother.
True there is a saying everyone is a king so long as they have some one to look down on it’s safe to say if Meg ever left she would look for someone else to put down
Yup!! Meg is definitely the scapegoat/black sheep of the family.
I wanted to add that I think younger Lois was OK with Peter but now can't stand him. I actually think Peter is the strain in their relationship because he doesn't give Lois the freedom that she craves. I also think that Peter fell out of love with her which train wrecked her self-esteem, so she does it to Meg.
Marge always was and still is an actual good mother and wife and person in general. She makes mistakes but always tried to fix them or do better. Lois used to be pretty good but at some point became a sadistic sociopath
I agree. I feel like Lois is also the reason Meg has been developing sociopathic traits such as beating up a cat to feel better.
unfortunately though Marge does not get the same energy from her husband. She just deserves better in my opinion
you guys have to start looking at Marge and Barts relationship as an apt comparison and not marge and lisa's as he's also the family's dysfunctional lightning rod . i admit the chunky think is on point because the last time lisa developed an eating disorder marge ignored it in favor of nelson, but blatant favortism shown by marge and homer is a huge problem. remember when lisa crippled bart marge's response was to get upset at him not only did she blame because it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't better then her, but she and the episode treated bart as a sociopath for not thinking about lisa's feelings. the sad thing i'm inclined to see homer as the better parent of the two.
I agree, Marge Simpson really IS the better mother character than Lois Griffin is now. Although Lois used to be a good one too until those damn writers just had to change her.
@@asherose9149 Compared to Family Guy, the Simpsons are wholesome but far from being a perfect family. I've seen in the old episodes that Lisa is the favorite child. She's intelligent, gifted in music, level headed, and everyone accepts her. Bart on the other hand isn't so lucky. He's wild, dangerous, and a trouble maker, the school hates him, the town pretty much hates him, and both his parents barely tolerate him. The only thing that separates them is that Bart has friends, while Lisa is socially awkward with no friends. Bart is such a troublemaker that Marge would yell, "Bart! NO!" on instinct, because he's known to cause many problems, and when Lisa would be the one who did something bad, like ruining a BBQ that Homer does to one up Flanders because she chose to go vegetarian and tried to force her whole family into doing it too, then she would say that line, and when they scolded her for this, they would react to Bart instead, not knowing how to handle this coming from the "perfect child".
Something that a lot of people seem to forget about Lois is that she used to the popular rich party girl who bullied the unpopular kids at her school, and it's very clear what the writers want to state: How could a person like that grow into a meek submissive housewife figure without any resting behavior. Lois never really grew out of her toxic behavior and it shows, most notably with Meg the type of "geeky" unpopular girl that she treats exactly like she would've have her victims in her teenhood.
Also i really didn't like the aspect of Lois character where she's never portrayed is being in the wrong and always always with an excuse to fall back on. Though some newer episodes are pushing her away from that, notably "Customer of the Week" and that was great.
I think Lois Is a narcissist she always blames everyone else and victim Ed her self.
What I find ironic about lois is that she grew up rich but doesn't want to be rich herself, she's happier being upper middle class and is happy with her family being upper middle class. In fact what's even weirder is in the earlier seasons Consuela was their housekeeper for a while but eventually Consuela was fazed out and Lois does most of the housework now. I don't know where I was going with this, I guess the point i'm trying to make is that her past doesn't match up with her present.
Although she started positive, Family Guys's writers wanted Lois to be less boring, but in doing so make her very unlikable. Through stories of her past sex life, child upbringing and unhinged temperament, we got to see other sides of Lois that made her 'interesting' , but left a bad taste in our mouth of how low she would go. In short, Lois has gone downhill from responsible housewife to responsible for everyone's misery.
Those damn writers really should've just kept Lois positive.
@@gibbs615 It’s true
The old Lois is dead
@@daniapfel2825 I don't care! Lois should've been kept how she used ro be.
@@gibbs615 Hey it’s not nice the Lois we know is dead ok ! And the Lois of now is a true bitch and don’t r/wooooosh le for that
Lois having an addictive personality is something that I think should be explored more, or at least should be acknowledged in universe. She has so many episodes centered around her easily getting too involved with something, but they never seem to be connected as part of her personality. Every time it happens everyone seems shocked even though it happens literally every time she gets involved in something new.
Lmao literally. It’s happens so many times I’m surprise they haven’t addressed it yet
There is the episode with her shoplifting and a recent episode where she gets addicted to painkillers
They also continually mention in her party days that she was a serious coke head
It's crazy to see how awful Lois became. I used to love her character but I've started to dislike her. I definitely feel like they could've given Lois a dark side without making her as bad as she is. She could've been the "mom you don't anger" role really well. Now she's a "you even look in my direction you're done" mom.
i agree. i think the writers thought it’d be funny to have a running joke about everyone hating meg but they probably should’ve just kept that to peter. it’s overkill at this point and the joke stopped being funny a long time ago. she used to be the scapegoat and now she’s just a victim lol. this goes to show that family guy has lost the heart of its show and solely relies on gags over their characters. people say that it’s supposed to be a comedy and not taken seriously, but i’ve seen way funnier adult cartoons that also touch on real subjects. bojack horseman always comes to mind. family guy started out as a satirical raunchy comedy and turned into something far worse
@@crab2195 I've never agreed with a reply so much in my life. You perfectly explained how I feel. Not only that but family guy still has the family adore each other and come together no matter what the circumstances. Even though Peter would rag on meg, he was also ready to give Meg money for a purse in the episode where meg pretends to be a teen mom in the first few seasons. He pulled out his wallet happily when Meg asked for a new purse, unfortunately he couldn't afford the Prada bag she wanted, but he also still loved his daughter. The close moments they had in the beginning made it very obvious Peter was just joking, in the show he is "mentally retarded" which is from the writers not me saying it, so his jokes were always weird and messed up but not hateful like now. He loved his daughter and adored her and would do anything for her. Now he just completely hates meg practically. The whole family. I remember when Lois took Meg to get a makeover. Even though she said a lil rude comment at the end when Meg said it's work being pretty "not for me it is" she was still willing to help out her daughter and make her daughter feel beautiful but also did try to tell Meg she was beautiful the way she was at the beginning of the episode. I don't think the comment was geared towards Meg being ugly. More so Lois just trying to make herself look good. The one thing I will say is they brought Chris back into Meg's inner circle. They had him hating on her for awhile but now they stick together and anytime he does rag on her it's more brotherly than pure hate.
@@nevaehonrefni exactly! i’m so glad we both see the show for what it’s becoming. my favorite word comes to mind: flanderization. not sure if you heard of it but it comes from the simpsons, where a characters personality is over exaggerated throughout the show and relegates them to one trait. i find that so interesting because that’s exactly what happened to family guy. peter started off as “mentally retarded” but crossed the line into plain idiotic and nonsensical. lois started out as a mother with a wild side, and turned into a terrible mom with no redeeming qualities. i know people say the same of all other characters but those were the two you mentioned and i agree! the show has fallen victim to poor writing and lazy character design. i find it so hard to enjoy the show at this point because there’s so many adult cartoons that do what they’re trying to do, but actually succeed. the fact that i cried watching cartoon characters die in bojack horseman shows how powerful this form of art can be. but no. the writers seem to think their cutaways were what made people love the show. they’re wrong. they kept us entertained, but the heart of its show was in its characters. they mention at the end of this video that lois stands out from the rest of the tv moms and i have to disagree. like you said, she could’ve been the “mom you don’t anger”. she could’ve been a character with nuance and flaws (which isn’t very common for mothers on tv), while still having some sort of empathy. i hate to see what the show has become, but seeing that there is much better out there… perhaps family guy has had its time.
@@crab2195 it's why I really enjoy American Dad. The family has it's times with each other but they always come back together still. American Dad has only gotten better as the seasons go on. We also have to realize Seth doesn't write for Family Guy anymore, but he does write for American Dad❤️
Love only the old Lois
It's a Shame that while Wilma is still Iconic,Marge is Still Likable and Solid Enough,and Francine is a Fun Character that gets Better More and More,however Lois Griffin Used to be Likable,She's Declining in the Opposite Direction than Francine and gotten Worse that's Impossible to Redeem,I Guess Peter is the One to Blame from This.
Good I love range
You spend enough time around a lunatic you become one
The writing is to blame
Unlike lois, peter doesnt really cheat
@@dondog3123 he does
When you had the poll for who was the worst person on the show, I chose Lois. And you perfectly demonstrated my reasons.
I love every character, but she has been a standout for a long time. She is SO subtlety evil. I love it.
She wasn't like that though it's pretty crummy all his characters have gotten worse over the years
Almost like seth wanted to do everything in his power to get the show cancelled but fox will never let it die.
Lol there are many worse characters than her in the show. Peter isnt really any better
Wouldn't call it subtle. Maybe passive aggressive. But she's overtly mean and selfish constantly
@@sosososososo123 The thing is though peter isn’t self aware about his actions he’s like a kid making mistakes because they don’t realize the weight of their action lois on the other hand is very much self aware and that’s what makes her worst (it was explained in the video better)
ps. not excusing peter btw i mean the whole family is terrible but he’s definitely a tamer character
Next Family Guy video you should do is the Decline of Brian, who I feel got the worst decline of any of the other Griffin members, especially after being brought back to live after his death.
Working on that soon 🙂
@TheRapper10000 True, but over the years he's also done many other things worse than being a liberal hypocrite. Like ignoring the fact that Stewie's babysitter pulled his arm out of the socket after he discovered she was hot.
Or going for Patty, a high school girl, after he saw her half naked in the locker room.
Etc.
He wasn't always a straight up creep.
knowingly giving stewie & chris herpes has got to be amongst the shittiest actions ever, even by family guy standards 😭
PS : Normally Brian will should be stay dead but after the fans wanted the back of Brian
@@jdchy6181 i think that takes the cake for worst episode
I’m ngl. Lois shows a very specific representation of abuse between mother & daughter that occurs almost regularly in abusive households.
Lois almost sees her daughter as competition for male attention. She knows that she’s probably the most attractive woman in quohog, and also resents her daughter for her youthfulness.
I’m fully aware that this isn’t what the creators wanted to showcase, BUT it all comes together surprisingly cleanly.
I’m also gonna be honest, I think Meg has Borderline Personality Disorder (I have BPD and I see a LOT of my behaviors in her) but that’s a discussion for another day
Ok and the old Lois is dead
...within THAT reading, it seems impossible that the overall Meg abuse didn't START with Lois...
Lois's abuse seems to at least be believable.
I feel like at this point,Stewie killing lois would be putting her out of her misery
No stewie killing lois would put meg out of her misery
That would be a good idea. Lois is already miserable enough, I think it do the world a favor. Idk
It’s true and pretty your profil Heidi
@@daniapfel2825 Thank you :3
@@AwesomeLaggy You’re welcome
Stewie is evil because of Lois. She birth him. As well as she got her ways from Carter. I can see it. There's a reason why Stewie wants to kill Lois.
until he finally had the chance and copped out like a baby
yeah, I mean her sister is definitely more like her mom because both are very caring and soft people, lois was obviously a daddy’s girl when she was younger
Linda Belcher is by far my favorite cartoon mom, she has shifts with some of her kids, especially Louise but you can still tell how much she loves and cares about her kids
I think the reason why she hates Meg is because Meg is the results of an affair she had with a guy named Stan. Peter knows that Meg isn't his real daughter. Lois wishes that Meg will unalive herself so that way the affair that she had will be forever gone. Lois is trying to get Meg to do it by bullying her and making her life a living hell.
You're right about Peter being an okay dad to Meg when Lois isn't around. I've seen episodes where he does try to be a good dad to Meg. When Meg was getting bullied at school in the mid-early episodes, he did almost killed Meg's bully because Meg told him about it. When Meg was tricked into having sex with a celebrity on live TV, Peter attacked the host celebrity but didn't know that the celebrity was the one who tricked Meg into having sex with him. Peter even forced a med doctor into marrying Meg when she thought she was pregnant, but it was her period being late.
I'm not sure that Meg is the product of an affair, she could likely just be the child of a previous relationship. Remember, Lois lived a pretty wild life before marrying Peter, including having a drug addiction and doing porn. When she became pregnant, Peter, realizing that Lois is way out of his league, uses the pregnancy to reverse baby trap her into marriage. Unfortunately, Peter resents Meg for not being his child, and Lois resents Meg because she married Peter to give her a father, but misses the rich girl, party lifestyle she used to enjoy.
Well once they did say that Meg's real father was someone named Stan Thompson. Must've been Lois's former fiancee from her classy life and the one who got her pregnant with Meg first.
Who is Stan
@@koncretemang5049 We don't know, to be honest. The show never gave us a last name. He was just some guy that banged Lois.
@@kariebossa4851 Honestly, Lois is the only character that kind of makes sense to be the way she is, but the show might have been funnier if it wasn't a family sitcom but about Peter trying to win over a crazy, rich country-club party girl who's dad dislikes him.
I never understood how the everyone in the show calls Meg ugly when she looks just her mom
This is why Francine is my fave. She might be a crazy gal, but at the end she always puts her family's best interest first
Agreed
I like her more because she is funny without feeling unlikable or malicious by default. She just does a lot of wacky stuff that is atypical of the cliche stay-at-home kitchen wife with a baby. She is actually a fun subversion. She is one of the few female characters in shows like this, where she owns a lot of it too, like her in the spanking kink she has and its not portrayed as a bad thing.
I liked the concept where they show you peter and lois as "normal" at the beginning of the series to evolve to evil, also that meg now has more character hopefully they give her more episodes with her son who lives in her locker and meeting peter and lois i dont want to imagine what they could do to the baby if i lived with meg in the house
Marge Simpson remains to be one of the best animated female characters ever.
Her and Homer's marriage isn't perfect; but you can tell they love each other, and would move Heaven and Earth for one another.
There have been so many times their marriage has come close to breaking point, but the two of them are in tears begging for forgiveness. One of the best Episodes ever (if I could remember it's name) is when Homer is photographed dancing with a Stripper; and publicly apologizes to the entire auditorium with Marge there just to prove how sorry he is. It's absolutely soul crushing. For as flawed as the newer seasons are, the Simpsons Marriage is incredible.
Lois and Peter? Yeah, no. Sure, Peter is a total dumbass but the way Lois is written makes you think he's one of the most evil people on Earth. I'm not overly fond of abusive male characters in anything, and the same goes for females.
Listen the old Lois is dead she was nice
@@daniapfel2825 Why the fuck are you responding with “the old Lois is dead” on almost every single comment? As IF everyone else commenting is somehow unaware of it despite the fact that most people are acknowledging it?
Yeah, in modern Simpsons, you can tell why Homer and Marge are still married. Modern Family Guy only keeps them together for status quo
I'm going to be honest, I've come to really sympathize with Meg over the years as I realize that I have a mother similar to Lois (manipulative, uncaring, sociopathic, incapable of accepting personal faults, abusive, alcoholic, cheating, greedy, etc.) Thinking about it, I guess it's lead to me seeing Family Guy as a more _"realistic"_ depiction of familial relationships as opposed to the Simpsions which seems like an idealized, unattainable fantasy.
'Course that's my own life experience painting that view, and it's not the same for everyone, but I suppose I appreciate the depiction of parents who are out and out horrible pieces of shit that treat their children and everyone around them like garbage, because that's what has defined the word "parents" to me and many other people. Sometimes, your mother is a garbage human who squanders every single chance they get to be better, and they don't deserve a shred of care, love, nor empathy from their children. _That_ is what Lois represents.
*Edit: Actually, on further reflection, my mother is _extremely_ similar to Lois, down to the fake posturing to convince other people that she's a good person.
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I'm going to go talk a walk, I think...
I understand you guy the old Lois is dead
If the writers weren't so lazy and fixated on sensationalism, they could have made Lois an interesting, well-rounded person who wasn't just a housewife without out-Flanderizing Flanders and nearly all of the rest of the characters on the Simpsons. In their efforts to make her be something more than a housewife, they have made her nothing more than a monster.
You mean that like the writers of Simpson the writers of Family Guy big deal failure
And also Seth MacFarlane wanted stop the show
Its why I like Francine better. For some reason Lois just seems to be doomed to being a mess because the writers seem to treat all the characters as just extensions of the awfulness they give Peter.
I actually loved Alana as the new Lois in the last season, Lois is just an annoying person (her voice is one main factor here). Alana had a solid reason to kill Lois, shame she ended up in prison though.
Great vid as always Lydia! By the way, where did you get your Simpson's, Family Guy and other avatars from? ❤️
The new Lois is dead
She could be a bit compared with Nicole from Amazing World of Gumball, since Nicole is the most agressive from the family and i guess from the town too. But at least Nicole is still a responsable mother and tryes to care for her kids. Why did Louis become more abusive is beyond me.
Off topic but TAWOG is absolutely fantastical and an amazing show
comparing the present Lois with Nicole is absurd. they're way, wayy far off. Nicole is an amazing mom & partner despite her rage 'issues'. besides, all her rage are almost always very much justified lmao
TAWOG Is much more different, Nicole had to grow up with VERY strict parents and when she finally escaped them she had to take care of a big baby man, and 3 children, while Lois? She brings the absolute WORST in Peter, she didn't went insane because of him, she let everyone go insane.
Nicole is a good partner and mother, she is *caring* , and don't blame everyone for her issues, as for Lois?
Lois just can't accept she's straight up a bad person, she's narcissistic, neglectful and not trustworthy at all
@@Viivlet well peter is also a baby man and lois parents are also strict
@@chuckschuldinerisgodly exactly yes she has anger problems but she LOVES her family and god help anyone who hurts family Lois is just a horrible mother and person
Remember that scene in the car with stewie the coffee shop episode where she's narcissistically talking about how good she is and Stewie is correcting her yea that's a good scene to point to explaining how bad she is
I don't have a real problem with Lois 'going downhill'. In my mind, she is a realistic representation of many wives and mothers. Women who feel trapped by their roles and rarely if ever feel appreciated and fulfilled
Mhm! The problem is just that becoming abusive shouldn’t be apart of that arc.
@@danielabaroni4020 oh I agree with you completely on this
I’d love to see your take on Stan and Francine from American dad. It obviously is heavily related to family guy because it has the same creators, but for how insane the couple is they do genuinely love each other. And even when they’re mean to the kids, they still seem to maintain a good relationship
Francine is way better then Lois Griffin and every way but she can be herself quite problematic for example see babies her youngest child to no extent and one's broken to the CIA headquarters and infected him with a special formula that made him a baby again and constantly tries to stop him from growing up but personally I think that personality could have been added to Lois Griffin
@@thermslusitania1151 At least despite that action being wrong in every way and kind of creepy, it comes from a place of love. Lois would never do that out of love. Moreso out of a need for control.
@@thermslusitania1151 Spell properly.
@@thermslusitania1151 than the new Lois you mean
@@samitrahill5723 the new Lois only
"Seth McFarlane made it no secret that Family Guy owes a lot from the Simpsons." "We act like we didn't take a lot from the Simpsons, but we took A LOT from the Simpsons."
Does that mean ever have an original idea .Fam guy is a rip off of the Simpsons and his space show is def a rip off of star trek and that's the two I can remember..not an ounce of originality, even using Marge's gambling addiction storyline and give it to Lois..not even changing it up and maybe having her addicted to food but nah just gambling..
smurves
at least Marge Simpson is more of a caring mother then Lois Griffin
Yet Meg and Lisa are both of the same
@@sebastianperez4461 but Lisa is a bit radical than meg
Yeah but Meg is badder at romance
Right on
@@reaper2579 ever since she met Paul McCartney fun fact when Paul McCartney appeared on the simpsons one request he had was Lisa would remain a vegetarian from that date onwards and they respected his request
I like the idea that Peter acts the way he does because Lois makes him unhappy. Because when she’s not around, specifically during that Christmas episode, Peter is a good father and even a good person.
Indeed
She’s shown some Karen traits and I’ve just grown tired of her.
(SPOILERS)
One of the later episodes, she told Quagmire to not hit on her, and when he listens to her and doesn’t hit on her and instead hits on another female, she gets upset. She just became so annoying that I kind of dread any screen time she has.
I think when Louis downfall really begin was when she cheated on Peter with Clinton. Even though her reputation of the perfect and caring housewife was in question a little before but her infidelity was the icing on the cake at least for me
She was piano professor the old Lois
Yeah, same honestly.
It was the point where the writers decided to push her in that unfaithful way and weren’t afraid to throw their marriage to the toilet for a few cheap gags.
Love the new content along the timelines really freshens up your channel.
Thank you 😄
All the characters are awful when you really break it all down. You can't really take it too seriously otherwise it'll ruin the whole show for you. This video is very interesting however. It shows how interesting she has become over time.
Not all the characters ok. The old Family Guy is dead
Really enjoyed this video - your content is so bingeable! 😄
Thank you 🙂
Lydia? I can confidently say that Lois is without a doubt her father's daughter. She's essentially just as bad as her dad, possibly worse!
The new Lois only
This is the earliest I've ever been to a video
“Yeah except for the trophies and pictures of friends…” that made my jaw drop
And also yeah Lois in seasons 3-4 were definitely the best Lois
Do a timeline of Hayley Smith next
Hayley timeline is being written now 🙂
@@LydiaLovesTimelines 😁
You basically made the point I was going to make. The exasperated den-mother archetype has been done a million times, so at least she's more interesting now. I actually think it's interesting comparing her degeneration to Brian's. The latter I think ruined the character, whereas Lois I think it improved hers.
I honestly feel like lois is a bit worse than brain in the new seasons because while yes he is a MAJOR douchebag, he doesnt physically abuse people. In the newer seasons he even sometimes defends meg.
TLDR:Lois is a bitch and worse than Brian
Another great video today Lydia! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next week :D have a great week!
Thanks Dylan
@@LydiaLovesTimelines me also,i came suscribe me there is one week and I find that top
Great video. Thanks for the effort
In seashell sea horse party I questioned how she went from realizing she’s a terrible person to again blaming meg idk why if Lois can why meg couldn’t change too in fact that episode was the perfect time to change her character into someone who isn’t bullied by her family
I can’t remember the name of the episode were Meg went to jail but that episode was another one where she was running the house a as bf everyone even Lois was scared of her… but Brian again had to be the person to stop her and have her go back to the bullied child and act like it didn’t happen. If it came down to though Meg could pull one over the family because she is very smarter than her family(maybe not as smart as stewie but close) and they showed it I can’t remember what season or the name but it’s just glossed over and I’m waiting for her and stewie to pull one over on the family because I know she can full understand him and if I’m not mistaken her rooms closer to his so I know she knows what’s going on in his room…
Lois's character development is essentially that of a late blooming Pewterschmidt. Something she originally wanted to avoid.
I understand that you can’t hate Lois because the old Lois is a good mother, nice and sweet
I don't really like new Lois, old Lois was more interesting to me because she had a more sympathetic side. However I agree that she is pretty similar to a lot of other animated sitcom moms.
I understand you R.I.P old Lois
Yeah I think that they have gone too far with Lois. I would prefer if she went back to being more motherly but with a crazy streak to keep her character different and interesting.
Not a full-blown sociopath
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Never understood the hate from Lois to Meg...
Sorry, Lydia. But, Homer and Bart have a better relationship, than Lois and Meg combined. And that's including, Stan and Hayley. I mean is she jealous of, Meg or something?! 💯🙂👍
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I think one of the reasons Lois abuses Meg so much is because, she blames Meg, or rather her birth, for why she is ‘stuck’ with Peter. There was even an episode where Lois immediately regretted marrying Peter, but she was already pregnant with Meg, so she felt like she couldn’t back out of her doomed marriage.
Sadly, some families in real life have this, where a parent hates or heavily resents the 1st born child more than the other children, because they would rather blame a child rather than themselves for why their marriage is awful.
@@StarViewer68 What episode is it? I feel like I may have seen it
Every thing about Lois changed for the worst. Attitude, personality, even voice..
I agree, she really should've just been kept how she used to be...a decent person and a caring mother.
The old Lois is dead
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@@gibbs615 Oh ok i don’t understand but i understand it’s a history in which the old Lois Griffin is back to life
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My honest views on Lois are a toss-up at this point.
On one hand, I miss her in the earlier seasons when she was always a great wife and even better mother. She would help prop up the family whenever they were down or in trouble and has proven to be both patient and intelligent. On the other hand, her antics in the later seasons make her a little bit crazy and obsessive, but it also proves that she's a human who makes human mistakes. Lois' recent episodes show that she's definitely not perfect, which is good and realistic if you can see your own limits.
There's a difference between "Not being perfect" and making out with your daughter's underage boyfriend because of your insecurities, putting your children in danger because of your addictions, being all kinds of abusive to your partner, being verbally and mentally abusive to your kids, cheating on your spouse instead of being an adult and just getting a divorce, letting your family struggle financially despite having rich parents that are willing to give you money if really needed to, killing/making out with your son's underage "girlfriend" because of your insecurities, not taking accountability and playing victim when called out, obsessing and endangering the lives of Starbucks employees just for not getting employee of the month, and the list goes on. There is literally no excuse for her. This is not "Human mistakes" A mistake would be accidentally hurting your family in some way with an innocently intended act or statement but she does this intentionally.
It's good to give characters flaws but even as a comedy,this shit isn't funny💀like I don't think building characters flaws means making them sleep with your own daughters boyfriend 😐
The old Lois is dead
@@samitrahill5723 That it’s the new Lois
I think Lois enjoys playing the martyr. That's the only reason she hasn't left Peter; if she leaves this awful marriage, she wouldn't be able to whine and complain, and thus garner anything from sympathy for her endless suffering to admiration over what a saint she must be to still be with a buffoon like Peter. Lois is from a rich family, so money is no issue, and she doesn't give a rat's tail about her kids, meaning they aren't an obstacle, either. Honestly, it's looking more and more like Lois is essentially playing house, with Peter as her charity case and all three kids being accidents.
Actually, I wonder if they'd actually do that for like, the finale or something; it'd be the best twist ever. All three Griffin kids learn that they're just unwanted side-effects of the game their mother's been playing with some hapless moron for decades. Meg is hated for being the firstborn and thus the reason Lois couldn't just dip out anytime she wanted, thus ruining her fun because now she has actual responsibility. Chris is an affair baby (explaining his randomly blond hair) who is treated a little better because Lois wanted to see how long it would take Peter to notice Chris wasn't his, which he has yet to do and this amuses Lois. Stewie's former drive to kill Lois was an instinct that she wasn't right in the head, which only faded because he grew used to the feeling until it went away.
Exactly as bad as Peter is to call a spade a spade Peter is Lois's bitch she can do almost anything to him and he won't leave most guys wouldn't do it for fuck sake even Quagmire would have more self respect for himself
And I don't want to be " that guy " but I don't like how they made that time she raped Peter into a comedy bit for laughs imagine the other way round OMFG the outrage the screaming etc
You speak of the new Lois
I love your videos so much keep up the good work women
i wished family guy was the same as old seasons
8:40 its mentioned in one of the earlier episodes that they would be "secret friends"
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Thank you so much 😀
Quagmire's decline would be an interesting one, personally, I think that he is the character that I feel further ashamed of his descent, since the episode when he began to hate Brian, his essence changed awfully.
nice analysis
I don't like Lois. She used to be a good character, but when she started being awful to Meg, it made me lose all faith in her. I still watch the show, and yes, it makes me laugh, but I still can't look past how much Lois reminds me of my mother.
I'm so sorry, nobody should have a newer season lois as a mother
@@The_Official_Goblin Thanks.
yup. both she and her husband are terrible
I don't like how Lois is now either! She really should've just been kept how she used to be.
I haven’t watched Family Guy on a regular basis for a long time. She comes off as someone who grows a strong passion for something and stops caring about anything else or anyone. But then of course it always goes back to the status quo.
Brian and Lois who were once they best characters, are now easily the worst!!! Sad to see, but that’s modern Family Guy for you.
Modern Simpsons >>> Modern Family Guy
Never forget that time Lois threw up on Stewie while ticking him during one of her drunken mishap 🥴🤢🤮
I still think when she bought that can of Whoopass as seen in a cutaway, she did it on purpose, knowing Peter will open it.
Also, there was a sale.
Pretty much as any character in FG, she got flanderized. Can never get into the show since then.
Say what you will about Marge Simpson, but she as always been a consistently caring mother.
I never realized until watching your videos how after a certain episode of Family guy you will see how the character (For example Lois, Brian,and Stewie) slowly change. You dont really think about it until you go back or someone points it out.
Think I just found my new favorite RUclipsr
I honestly love the new Lois but then again, I just love those types of characters.
Can you do a timeline of Buzz Killington?
Great Lydia loves timelines video 👍
To sum it up, Lois has basically become a RWBY character.
Good job, Seth McFarlane
Whats RWBY
Yeah, kinda. Sad, isn’t it?
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Oh, you sweet summer child…
Lois is probably my most hated character on the the show aside from Bryan. She kinda became more annoying over the years and now looking back I really sympathize for Meg more so that she became my favorite character on the show.
It’s Brian and the both that you quoted are dead
You sound similar to the WatchMojo Lady and i love it
You should do a similar timeline for Francine smith from American Dad.
Nah francine is bearable and is hot compare to louis
I think Lois is sad with her life and chooses to go after her family because they drive her insane. But I think she’s the worst to Meg because: A: Meg make her feel insecure, B: Meg is the easiest to push around. Honestly she should get her kids taken away from her
The new Lois only
Remember when Lois kidnapped a kid because his parents didnt vaccinate him, and then she didn't want want her own child to be vaccinated in an other episode. She is a hypocrite.
Apparently after every episode the plot resets
8:50 I forgot after watching that episode that Peter is kind to Meg when Lois isn’t around and explains episodes where he is nice but lois is never there when it happens
People love to hate "old" family guy because it's dated now, but I like them because they're the FEW times Lois actually was a mother. By season 4, she was a parody of a parody of what she once was.
I didn't think about that. You're right. She was rather forgetable in the first two seasons. Perhaps seasons 3 and 4 were her best. Maybe some seasons later as well.
I love this video Lois did change for the worse in my opinion
Some of you will say stewie is the most cruel person in the family but its not, its lois
my g had way too much fun with that thumbnail
I actually like the development of Lois, you see how the family dynamic is ever changing how the family view each other, kinda like reality . Also I feel they had to make Lois more outrageous because of how outrageous the family itself is , I mean a evil baby and a level 4 adult husband would make any nice person crazy lol, and I think because she is starting to dislike her life she develops a addictive personality either things she takes interest with
I rather watch 2 girls 1 cup then listen or even acknowledge that Louis is a good person/mom
Great as always
Can you do a Video on the Ushiromiya family timeline from Umineko? Or at least one of the Ushiromiya siblings.
Glad you made this I was finally done with her when she tried to kill Stewie and sniffed the dead constructor twin brother at the funeral.. she just as low as quagmire and Herbert where in the earlier seasons lol
Lois was on a decline ever since Meg made her cry, only reason she went back to assaulting Meg was because Meg made it so(also when she was trying to become customer of the week, does anyone know the song that played)
I really really hope, that in the last episode, meg lives on the opposite side of the world with a lovely healthy family, and she gets a call from her parents and she just looks at it, ignores it.... it would give me so much satisfaction
I love your videos Lydia you do a great job on everyone you do to me your our Lois
I think the episode “Customer of the Week” perfectly represents who she is now
I think the next move Family Guy should make is having Peter and Lois try to be better parents. It works in The Simpsons and in Bob's Burgers.
Something that makes me laugh is in season 4 when Brian becomes a taxi driver. Peter takes a rude with him and Lois is in front of them; Peter just starts shooting the wheels out on louis’ car and says “but I got you right” and then lois says “yeah you got me 🤣” Peter and Lois just start belly laughing at the violence. This is what made Lois such a funny character to me 🤣
Great video
I would like her the most if she was sociopathic but was genuinely a good mother and wife to her family. Didn’t put Meg down, defended her, etc.
So awesome and cool and great 👍😁😋😇😊
My grandmother was like a more time Lois to my mother.
Remember when she used to be a pianist lmao
In Louis's defense, living with Peter would drive anyone off the deep end!!