To Be A Big Strong Man You Have To Do Big Strong Man Things | Starting Strength Network Previews
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Im big and strong at 53 yrs and life time drug free.....the big compound lifts will make you strong,,,,Rip knows what he is taking about
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist ..In ireland we eat skinny guys for breakfast 💪💪😉☘
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist but imagine how strong that same guy would be if he got up to 225. 👀
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist ....Or just maybe Irish people not only are lucky but strong 😁😉👍🇮🇪💪💪
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist so who has a well laid out newbie and progresses through the process as well as Rips? Anyway size always precedes strength you know so imo Rip is right. If you line up all the powerlifting medalists the super heavyweights will shit all over every you know?
No offense but I checked out your videos and you look pregnant. You're just a fat guy. Nobody wants to look like that.
So true. After years off bro splitting and following the bodybuilding routines of the internet, nothing has put on size and strength in the quickest fashion like the SS NLP.
I’m 5’11”, 235 and deadlift 500lbs. I’ve just been validated! LOL
You are officially a big strong man 🎖
You're beeig n'strawng
"Mark describes his ideal man"
“If you take your shirt off to show your friends you abs, dont do that.” 😂
Legend talking !!!!!
100%...the foundation of any trining program should be heavy compounds
There is a mindset as well.
Not bad advice. You can look like an athletic and strong person by just being athletic and strong. Which takes time and is hard. Or you can fake it by being skinny and just focusing on having enough muscle in a few places to fake it. Which is easy. Really just depends on what you're goals actually are.
A lot of comments are sort of missing the point. You can get pretty strong without getting big, but if you get big, you will be able to get stronger than if you didn’t get bigger. Just look at strongman competitions. The best competitors are as big as they can be for their weight class. I mean, there is some balance there because you can’t get too heavy or you can’t move quickly for the explosive movement events, but that is sort of splitting hairs.
Do you really want to be 20% or 30% stronger if it means looking like a fattening hog? Wouldn't you rather be a bit less strong but looked jacked? 95% of men would.
Follow your ego or pursue your potential.
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist those 165lb freaks are .... freaks. SS is about the general population
@@tadghsmith1457 you can pick whatever goals you like - run a marathon, achieve a certain look... They're all legit goals. Rip's goal is to get the 5 rep max for the four big lifts as high as possible. That's how he defines "strong." There are other definitions, but that is his. If that is your definition, you probably need to get bigger. Certainly, the bigger you are, the easier it is to get your 5RM up.
And, FWIW, in terms of looking "jacked", bodybuilders bulk and then cut. Look at Chris Bumstead's channel. Dude chows to get big (strong is a by-product) and then cuts to get a look. But you can't get big without eating.
Most strongmen today ar3 actually quite lean
Do not make comments normally. But Nick and Rusty just diluted a huge mystery of life spoken by the Oracle. He was specifically talking deadlift.
None of that matters if you can’t move some distance without being out of breath. Go out there and run
I wish I can disagree with you but you are absolutely right. Rippetoe is a great expert in getting weak people into intermediate levels of size and strength, but his anti cardio, everyone-is-a-twink-unless-they-are-bears mentality can fuck people up in their athletic journeys.
Having good cardiovascular capacity is part of being an athlete. Get real, Rippetoe.
Why not both? I agree with you btw.
Is it possible to increase a lift eventide over a three year period.
More profound wisdom from Mark.
You could do high rep high volume (6-15 rep range) bodybuilding training, and not do any heavy (relatively speaking) squat, deadlift or press, and look like a big strong man!
If you want to BE, and not just LOOK like a strong man, you need to lift heavy shit for low reps
Nah, you can tell the difference between someone who is big vs someone whose big and lifts heavy.
I like it when he says big strong man
I respect Mark’s opinion, though I don’t know how many people are conflating big and strong with ripped. Very few are both. I caution people with regards to focusing too much on bodyweight. If you are making progress; getting stronger and looking bigger. That scale can throw a wrench in your motivation. There is sometimes a significant difference from one person to the next when it comes to bone structure, which is a big part of your bodyweight. You can literally take two different people of the same height, same muscle mass, and one would be quite fat at 200 pounds and the other would look skinny because of how different their bone thicknesses are. Two members of my family have this incredible juxtaposition. There is a handful of other things besides thickness. Some people’s shoulders are so narrow that they have to get very strong with lateral raises when carrying in the groceries. Others can have arms hang loosely to the side because of their shoulder width. The same with hips. The same with arms and legs. There’s a bunch of ways your bone structure can form. A former coworker of mine was the same height as me, but everyone did not believe that he was only six feet tall because his shoulders were so high and his neck was so short that he just looked way bigger. It’s not that the scale is meaningless. The scale can help you compare previous you to future you. Are you putting on weight? Are you losing weight? But I would caution against comparing your weight to others because that is likely to have nothing but negative impacts on your motivation when you do that. People are different. If you can kill your previous self, you’re always on the right track.
I don't disagree with the message per se, however I feel like shit when I carry more body fat around than what is "healthy" or optimal for my size. Being skinnier although still squatting four plates feels much better for me and I bet most people would say the same.
What do you mean by healthy, and optimal?
@@jamescollinge3291 around 15 % bodyfat for a male.
If you can squat 4 plates you are strong, even if not powerlifting strong.
"Bear mode" 💪🏻
My biggest takeaway from being ripped and in public is that it makes people uneasy. Pretty girls get self-conscious about their own physical condition (like you care), the gaunt face has people treating you like a vampire (you may not enter!). My blunt friend referred to me as "compact". I'm not fixated on my size but that stuck in my craw a bit. Of course people hate the antisocial dietary habits.
I have found that girls flirt with you more as a "big, strong man" that is not an OC freak. People just generally like you better. Arms are real big compared to last year.
Things that look good on tv and yt videos don't always look good in person or on everyone. Just look at alpha destiny when he got shredded. Yikes.
@@LTPottenger I thought AlphaDestiny looked great when he did the show recently. Just that non-bodybuilders are going to be uncomfortable around you, even hot girls, anywhere near contest shape. Pretty alienating.
@@stray88
Yeah girls really hate skinny guys like brad pitt, johnny depp, and pete davidson, zac efron, etc.
They definitely prefer that kevin james physique…Lmao.
@@3ncore706 You showed up in the entirely wrong conversation talking about fat guys and skinny guys. We are talking the (real-world) social pros and cons of being ripped (not scrawny) versus moderate levels of bodyfat.
@@stray88
I can tell you, in the “real world” every guy i know who can easily get women is lean, some of them even fit the scrawny description. The guys who are over 200 pounds that i know personally either struggle to get women or they are well over 6 feet tall. For a guy 5’10 or shorter you dont wanna be over 180, and honestly being closer to 150 will appeal to most women.
This was quite a nice video for me, a man who is 5'11" and 235lb 3:57
41 yr old lifetime natty here, 5'7 only weighs 150lbs. 405lb squat 470lb deadlift. My genetics have made staying natty my biggest limitation. Recommendations?
If you want to get bigger, you need to gain weight. 150 is pretty light even at 5'7. I'm 5'7 and I weigh 180 (before starting strength I weighed 130).
Edit: I should have also said (in case you didn't know): to gain weight you need to eat more food. Simple as that.
underweight
With those numbers I bet you look like you are in great shape. You need to ask yourself "is it worth risking my long-term health to get maybe 30% stronger by becoming overweight or obese?" If so, OK, listen to Rip. You'll still probably live to about age 70 or 75. But if you want to live to a very advanced age, say 80, 85 or beyond then your best bet is to stay lean and strong like you are now.
Drink 1 gallon of milk a day and eat 2lbs of beef in addition to your regular meals. Then you be a big strong man.
@Luke Follett When was the last time Rip was natty, what decades ago? I take his advice with a grain of salt, unless he's recommend a stack to go with that surplus of calories. I'm my 40's it's harder to put on muscle with those excess calories.
That lobster claw looks like it involuntarily grabs and lifts barbells
This is good news because I definitely Can't see my abs.
God bless Rip!👏😂
I’m 5’ 7” and 171. Am I big and strong yet dad?
I mean this respectfully, but who is that other guy that cuts in?
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I'm 4'11", 110lb, but I can bench press 405 for 10 reps and I voted in the last primaries... am I a BSM?
so what is a good weight at 6'4 then? if 235 is for 5'11 do i need to actually gain more weight? im 6'4 255lbs
@@user-uv9ji8ml2y interesting because i have a pean 5'7 205lb buddy who can squat 405 for reps. Im sure this guy knows what hes talking about. Atleast a little bit. What does your physique look like? And what are you capable of? Im curious
@@user-uv9ji8ml2y, why the heck are you here than?
@@user-uv9ji8ml2yYour ass don't train, you can always tell who's cappin, you're just throwing out numbers, because you have no idea what's realistic.
anything over a 100 kilos is plenty enough for any height. the important thing is to count in tons, not in kilograms, and that starts at one tenth of a ton😅
Rip would say you need to be pushing 300… he’s said it before.
I want to hold a big strong man
It really depends on who, if anyone, you are trying to impress. If you want to impress Mark Rippetoe, be a big beefy man. If you want to impress girls, maybe ask girls what they like, not Mark Rippetoe.
Im 240 am i big strong man?
Is there a program for this???????
5’s
The way Arnold worded it in his encyclopedia was something like each gym, depending on what country or region he trained in, had their own prized paradigm. Some gyms specialized in legs. Others chest. So I’ve come to learn that each gym is similar to a martial arts dojo where the Master of the gym is the teacher. And each Teacher specializes in the craft of Martial art that _they_ have dedicated their life to. So I like to take what I’ve learned from a couple different ones so that I can be a mixed martial artist so to speak. I’m talking about the mental understanding. It’s really interesting because majority produce results it’s just a matter of what you want to do.
Rip needs to get his macros dialed in
lmao
2:29 Mark 2 breaths away from almost getting Cancelled lmfao ....
"Because then your just a Fa... -Narcissist , yeah a big ole Narcissist was what i was gonna say 😂"
Am I big at 6'4" and 298 pounds? I still do sets of 5.
Warthog man is right
He sounds like a strong ass Dave Ramsey lol I appreciate the advice tho
Do the bodybuilders doing 3 sets of 10 to 12 at moderate weight not look big and strong?
Roids
@@b0dr626, do you not think the unaesthetic powerlifters are using roids too?
@@adamf386 You can't get bigger without some sort of progressive overload(Improving in Weight,reps) which isn't the case for people on roids. They just need to get a pump to grow bigger.
@@b0dr626, people doing sets of 10 to 12 at moderate weight use progressive overload too bro lmao.
Except the bodybuilders are strong. Deadlifting in the 600 to 700 lb range. Squats in the mid 500s. Benches in the mid 400s. Arnold was said to have a 710lb deadlift, 565 lb squat, 500lb bench, etc. Benching 315 for 5 sets of 10 is moderate....
Hi, how would you insert RPE in this type of training? Thanks
He did video on his opinion of rpe
Bigger, stronger and faster!
Kill’em all! Broke Lesnar lol
Anatoly gym prank dude. Hugely strong 5 10 180lbs or so.
Outlier
@@b0dr626 not at all. Many people are strong and don’t look it. Gymnasts, swimmers, footballers.
The idea that deadlifts are the saviour is frankly ludicrous
Please tell us a couple of examples of big strong men who are SSC's. Thanks in advance!
chase lindley for one you dolt
@@jesseddy69 I said a couple. I knew you would choose Chase because he is in his prime, young and strong. Is that you're only example? SS audience is mostly over 40.
@@jesseddy69 that's like college strength coaches taking credit for their players strength. Is that all you have? A young guy in his prime who would be strong on any program he chose?
What qualifies as a strong man?
JD Shipley. He's larger than Chase and in his 30's.
One thing about the SCC coaches that I've worked with is that some of them aren't that big due to lack of height, but they're fairly strong for their size.
Donald Duck, not Daffy Duck.
Rip is Mr. Krabs from SpongeBob
"Nobody wants to see your abs" lolol
I want to be a big strong man with abs.
Do big strong man things and then get your diet dialed in
Well if you follow Rips advice you'll have abs. They'll be under about 50 lbs of wobbling blubber. But you'll have them!
@@tadghsmith1457 maybe. But you’ll hit a 500 lb deadlift pretty quick too. Just a matter of priorities
@@K-bob_45 yes, health vs. arbitrary deadlift number when you're not even a competitive lifter.
@@K-bob_45 I did rip’s advice and hit 505x2 on deadlift. I looked pretty solid after cutting 40lbs. I wish I had done more isolation but I was still happy with my physique.
Serious question as per mark's strength philosophy as a 6'2-6'3 person how much should i be weighing?
He would probably say around 275 lbs lol
@@staystrongpeople4942 gotcha
@@wishes_._ he probably would say 260 or 275 and that comes with the assumption that at that weight you are deadlifting well over 500lbs, probably near 600. Squating in the mid 400s. Your bench number had better start with a 3 and your press should be damn near your bodyweight.
500 at least.
I'm 5ft 3in 200lb. I would assume you should be around 275.
BAAAAAHAHA....Love it. If you take your shirt of to show you friends......don't do that.
I'm 59, resemble sasquatch, lifetime drug free. And I vote.😅
Besides lifting. You gonna wanna work outside and use heavy equipment.
Phil Heath doesn't lift barbells often and is top 3 at Mr Olympia. These guys look like they've never lifted a day in their lives.
Did you just use a meat head bodybuilder who injects gear for a living. You're an IDIOT!!!!!!
don't do that...don't do that very often..hahaha
I tried to do big strong man things the result was a torn supraspinatus
Now I have become a small weak man
Kenya 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 loves you ripptoe
I mean I get the point, however, it doesn't take a whole lot of sleuthing to find multiple photos of young Rip shirtless with pretty serious abs.
Why are you looking for pictures of a shirtless Mark Rippetoe?
@@danielbuege1 I was looking for "young" Rippetoe, not shirtless, but shirtless is what I got. I wanted to see if what he looked like in his prime squared with the "eat until you're uncomfortable" mantra of today. Dude was an ox for sure but it's kind of like Greg Doucette telling his audience to "maingain" at 15% bodyfat while he maintains sub-9% year round.
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize there was a time when Rip was in crazy good shape along with decent strength.
@@matthewporter1287 Hm now that you mention it I think it is the Estep guy. You're right, and they claim to be of Rip. I guess now I'll never know if Rip had abs or not.
@@matthewporter1287 Interesting, I'll check him out. He looks insane.
*bench 3 plates
In this day and age, one can simply identify as a big, strong man. Problem solved.
Jesse athlean x. Deadlifts 540, looks great but doesn’t look like a “big strong man”. Big strong men are normally genetically big and strong looking
I remember back in the day when he was just a scrawny dude on Jeffs channel. I never thought the dude would get so strong so fast and still be so lean. Really impressive.
The only way Jesse is dling 540 is if he's using those special plates of Jeff's.
@@oldnatty61 clearly he can do it. Watch the videos.
Yeah and if he just bulked to 250 then cut down he probably could have gotten there in half the time...
@@RockwellKoS what the length of time got to do with anything.
5'11" 165lbs is skinny... I'm 6'2" 150lbs. smh
That big and strong you are referring to is cope for being fat, like most ssc's
Strong is a relative term. When I was a 138LB wrestler in college I was tossing around 250lb powerlifters and bodybuilders at the gym. Who was stronger at manhandling someone, the 138 pound guy or the 250 pound guy? They were strong at lifting a loaded bar. I was strong tossing around grown men.
The answer is: the 250 lb wrestler, there is a reason they have weight classes
@@edwinprado5620 that wasn’t the comparison
As a former wrestler, I hear you.The strength that comes from hard wrestling practices translates into combat strength and explosive power, which cannot be duplicated by weightlifting.
Compound lifts are fantastic, but they are only half the journey to real world strength and power.
Cool story but the fuck does it have to do with anything in this video
@@dieselviper7811 strength vs specific strength. The idea that what you can do with a barbell is the only measure of strength is not the only definition of strength
heavy barbell training is DEFINITELY NOT the only way. people. Barbell is irrelevant.
You tell 'em, Rip!!
A natty at 5’11 235 will be known as a “big fat man” not strong
I get his point, but i agree 235 at 511 will just look obese. Im 5'11 now and 170 is a goal, at least i wont be 165 😢
@@theguy9067
For 5’11 i could see anywhere from 170-190 being totally fine depending on your structure, however 235 is ridiculous unless youre blasting steroids
I love the irony of Rip critiquing guys for being nacissistic. Lol.
Have you heard about the big strong man?
That lives in a caravan.
Have you heard about the Jeffrey Johnson fight?
Oh, Lord what a hell of a fight.
You can take all of the heavyweights you've got.
We've got a lad that can beat the whole lot.
He used to ring bells in the belfry,
Now he's gonna fight Jack Demspey.
Yeah, and the only way that people will know you're not a fat mess but a STRONG fat mess is if you actually carry around a 500lbs deadlift in your back pocket or wear a lifting belt everywhere you go. 235 at 5'11 - nobody natural is going to look any different that a professional world of warcraft player at that stage ffs.
Nobody wants to see a giant boiler either.
mark rippetoe show your abs now!!!
we want to se your abs
You arent worthy to see the great rip's abs lol
He has one ripped ab
Then why do so many powerlifters look like they don't even lift?
Because he's wrong.
Like who?
Name one
All the powerlifters i know are jacked like a mf haha
Are they trying to stay in a weight class?
Have you guys thought that a 170 lbs pro MMA can kick your ass?
Just saying because the black dudes smirk is so egocentric😂
Are you guys examples of what you consider "big strong men", and the training it takes to become that? Because I don't want the big fat belly and double chin.
Then you will remain little man
@@ec4146 so no example?
@@ec4146 And get all the chicks.
@@ec4146 Educate ME!, FUCKTARD!
@@oldnatty61he is a Manlet lol😂
Mitchell Hooper just squatted 525 x 24. Somebody needs to tell him that high reps and volume are making him weak.
Mitch Hooper, an elite, enhanced, professional athlete isn’t the same person that would benefit from squatting fives on a weekly basis. Starting strength is for novice, or beginner, strength training, hence the name ‘starting’ strength.
As a beginner runner you wouldn’t copy kipchoge’s training, so why do people think copying strength athletes should be any different.
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I wonder what rep scheme Mitchell used to get that strong.
I’ve seen big strong men get their ass whooped by a little guy
I'd rather be a fit strong man than a big strong man. It's called strength AND conditioning ffs.
Don't hurt yourself ego lifting if you're older.
Mike Tyson at his prime for 5ft11 ish 215 lbs 😂😂😂
So he didn’t look strong according to you guys
Who cares about looks when you shit on your pants if he stares at you
To be a big strong man you have to be born with big strong man genetics. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do. Moreover, the vast majority of big men don't squat or deadlift, let alone take their squats and deadlifts anywhere near failure on a regular basis.
Mark is a little too dogmatic.
First
Grattis💪
Congratulations
None of you guy's even look like you train yourselves!
This is so cringe🤣🤣
DONT LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS it's dangerous you'll break your back
lift light weights insted
Lol
Words of the weak
@@ec4146 you are weak here with 15 inch arms add your picture we will se
5'11", 265lb. 46 years old. I've been pulling Deadlifts for 28 years. Rip is right.
The amount of times rippetoe is saying “big strong man” is sus
I would rather Look ripped like McGregor or Khabib than look like eddie hall
Should pregnant men deadlift? Should a man squat when he is on his period? Do people who identify as unicorns have their own unique lifts or can they do standard human lifts? These are the big questions of this age.
Nah, they need to lay down in the middle of a road and wait for a log truck that's not paying attention.
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