For anyone wondering, woven fabric (like the kind for stopping weeds) is used for strength, and non-woven fabric is used for drainage. The thicker non-woven fabrics are used when the thinner ones would rip during use. If you're installing by hand and not finding that the cheap fabric is ripping, then you can use the cheap fabric. Even a cheap fabric is better than no fabric, though.
Every Fabric drained the water! The white Lowe’s stuff does look thin and cheap but the #4 and #8 drained the worst of all of them! And the landscape fabric drained fine as well, I’m not sure what this test is supposed to be proving
I love how on the white one it flows the fastest lmao. It backfired on him. But what he didnt mention is its trash and dirt and roots will go right through it.
Please elaborate using the AOS from the TDS sheets provided by manufacturer. My market is mostly heavy clay and 4oz permits too many soil particles to pass through 4oz. 6oz or 8oz only for most of North Central Texas.
Great video, thanks for sharing your findings. Can you indicate what width do you recommmend? I'm considering the two pipes (solid / perforated) as well but not sure what to buy yet.
Like all the videos I’ve watched on this subject, doesn’t say what happens when fine particles get into the perforations. In England, it blocks them - maybe American fines are better behaved. :-)
Chuck with apple drains Florida highly recommends Stay Greenfabric from home Depot or Lowe's. You're saying not to purchase it. You guys have so many conflicts on your your fabric recommendations you need to get it straight.. Half your videos say don't use fabric and half say use it. Florida says uses fabric paper North Carolina says don't use this fabric paper. I don't understand how you can be a team in overtly disagree with each other.
It's because almost all of the drainage RUclipsr's are full of shit. This entire video was a ridiculous cluster......ALL of the fabrics, except the 8 oz are nearly freely flowing water through them, and as the water flows through it he is standing there criticizing it, and simply says it will clog once you put something on it. BUT, the magic 6 oz fabric is somehow clog resistant. Drainage RUclipsrs are the model of stupidity. Frankly, I haven't seen one that truly understands how all of this works, yet they are pushing their solution (and their products) using extremely flawed test set-up's and anecdotal evidence from an install they did that is flowing tons of water right after it was installed. If gravel and fabric are so magic, how come farmers who pay BIG $$$ to put thousands of feet of drain tiles in the ground still have them working 50+ YEARS later and they simply put 6" and 8" perforated pipe in the ground right into dirt, sand, clay, etc. Guess they didn't watch enough RUclips and they've been wrong for half a century. LOL....drainage RUclipsr's.
The soil is completely different buddy. Different areas have different measures that work for them. What works in one place, may not work in another. You will even see contractors arguing like morons 🙄, but they are not considering their environments.
@OGRH Okay so his question is still valid, just not worded in a way that is not easy to digest. So perhaps the question is, does this test ONLY apply to North Carolina and the results are different for each state based on average soil composition? So far, in these videos the RUclipsr just talks about Clay (not Zones/States/soil types). And maybe part of the reason the links were taken down is because there is no one size fits all solution and what he is using may not be suitable for some jurisdictions?
The 4 oz and 6 oz fabrics are quite expensive but are better. The 2 from lowe’s will tear pretty easy especially if they have been in the ground for a couple years. They are trash.
If you use the 6oz why don't you show it in the test? And don't forget there is a world outside the USA where we don't have 'Lowes' and we don't use ounces.
This is simply not a very useful comparison test. Why not use a measured amount of water poured on top and catch and measure how much goes through in a specific amount of time? You say that putting something on top of the landscape fabric will stop it from working. How about actually doing so (on ALL the fabrics) to actually prove your assertion? I got very little useful information from this video other than that, when stretched out in mid air and with water flowing from a hose on them, ALL the fabrics drained.
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Another live test done, great to see this test. Thank you for showing us instead of just telling us.
For anyone wondering, woven fabric (like the kind for stopping weeds) is used for strength, and non-woven fabric is used for drainage. The thicker non-woven fabrics are used when the thinner ones would rip during use. If you're installing by hand and not finding that the cheap fabric is ripping, then you can use the cheap fabric. Even a cheap fabric is better than no fabric, though.
EXCELLENT video. Answered my questions. Thank you!!
Every Fabric drained the water! The white Lowe’s stuff does look thin and cheap but the #4 and #8 drained the worst of all of them! And the landscape fabric drained fine as well, I’m not sure what this test is supposed to be proving
The white one I saw no puddling. Not sure I can trust this video. Guess I’ll keep looking
I agree.. white worked just fine..
@@moblackmoney3424 - But it is very thin. Would probably break down in no time!!
The link to the recommended fabric doesn't work anymore. Thanks for the video, it was helpful!!!
I love how on the white one it flows the fastest lmao. It backfired on him. But what he didnt mention is its trash and dirt and roots will go right through it.
Question, do you put any fabric in the vents for the surface water drains? How do you keep the soil from washing away through those?
What’s the brand name of the # 6 fabric. Very vague for some reason.
Can you please update the Amazon link to the fabric you recommend. Ty
Please elaborate using the AOS from the TDS sheets provided by manufacturer. My market is mostly heavy clay and 4oz permits too many soil particles to pass through 4oz. 6oz or 8oz only for most of North Central Texas.
Why did n't you add DIRT and repeat the test? Because the dirt will not only slow the flow but eventually Clog the fabric
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Do u buy from French Drain Man
I went to this video to see the #6 fabric you recommended in a prior video. Where the #6 fabric?
Hit your link and it said link not found
Great video, thanks for sharing your findings. Can you indicate what width do you recommmend? I'm considering the two pipes (solid / perforated) as well but not sure what to buy yet.
Like all the videos I’ve watched on this subject, doesn’t say what happens when fine particles get into the perforations. In England, it blocks them - maybe American fines are better behaved. :-)
But this is just like the old west elixir. Trust him. 😆😆😆😆😆
The French fines are best for drainage 😂
What’s the best drain pipe?
Our contractor used Mirafil. Hope that is ok.
I saw no difference between the lowes one and th 4 oz ,sorry
Yea, he played that one off quick, lol.
There is no difference. Been using Lowes and Home Depot landscape fabric on French Drains and works well.
@@zx2781 - Question is, for how long before rotting away? THATS the trick question
Chuck with apple drains Florida highly recommends Stay Greenfabric from home Depot or Lowe's. You're saying not to purchase it. You guys have so many conflicts on your your fabric recommendations you need to get it straight.. Half your videos say don't use fabric and half say use it. Florida says uses fabric paper North Carolina says don't use this fabric paper. I don't understand how you can be a team in overtly disagree with each other.
It's because almost all of the drainage RUclipsr's are full of shit. This entire video was a ridiculous cluster......ALL of the fabrics, except the 8 oz are nearly freely flowing water through them, and as the water flows through it he is standing there criticizing it, and simply says it will clog once you put something on it. BUT, the magic 6 oz fabric is somehow clog resistant. Drainage RUclipsrs are the model of stupidity. Frankly, I haven't seen one that truly understands how all of this works, yet they are pushing their solution (and their products) using extremely flawed test set-up's and anecdotal evidence from an install they did that is flowing tons of water right after it was installed. If gravel and fabric are so magic, how come farmers who pay BIG $$$ to put thousands of feet of drain tiles in the ground still have them working 50+ YEARS later and they simply put 6" and 8" perforated pipe in the ground right into dirt, sand, clay, etc. Guess they didn't watch enough RUclips and they've been wrong for half a century. LOL....drainage RUclipsr's.
The soil is completely different buddy. Different areas have different measures that work for them. What works in one place, may not work in another. You will even see contractors arguing like morons 🙄, but they are not considering their environments.
@OGRH Okay so his question is still valid, just not worded in a way that is not easy to digest. So perhaps the question is, does this test ONLY apply to North Carolina and the results are different for each state based on average soil composition?
So far, in these videos the RUclipsr just talks about Clay (not Zones/States/soil types). And maybe part of the reason the links were taken down is because there is no one size fits all solution and what he is using may not be suitable for some jurisdictions?
Need soil on top to run test.
Exactly!
The 4 oz and 6 oz fabrics are quite expensive but are better. The 2 from lowe’s will tear pretty easy especially if they have been in the ground for a couple years. They are trash.
If you use the 6oz why don't you show it in the test? And don't forget there is a world outside the USA where we don't have 'Lowes' and we don't use ounces.
So 6 is between 4 and 8. Got it
Not sure…
Gonna use 4 and 8 in my test but I’m gonna recommend 6.
This is simply not a very useful comparison test. Why not use a measured amount of water poured on top and catch and measure how much goes through in a specific amount of time? You say that putting something on top of the landscape fabric will stop it from working. How about actually doing so (on ALL the fabrics) to actually prove your assertion? I got very little useful information from this video other than that, when stretched out in mid air and with water flowing from a hose on them, ALL the fabrics drained.
4oz Burrito wrap!
Not good test
Weird