Timing is everything 😊 I am 50 feet into a 100 ft French drain digging by hand. Hope to be ready for stone , fabric and pipe by early next week if the weather permits in Ky. Thanks for the great videos. Be Blessed. Update: completed the drain and it’s working perfectly. Thanks for all the great videos!
You have created informational legacy Chuck. Not just for french drains and all of its issues and solutions but on many other topics as well. I am sure that watching and learning community learned a bunch and will continue to learn even more. Thank you for sharing! 👍
Thanks Chuck! I bought the #57 stone..got a little worried when i saw other videos about round rock..there will lots of traffic around the french drain, so i made the best decision because of you.
Tremendously valuable information when there is so much contradicting information from other RUclips channels. The way you explain it makes total sense. Thank you for sharing your passion and knowledge for the sole purpose of helping others. We believe we can do it!
Thank you for explaining the many uses of the 50-67 stone. These other companies are using round and telling people to use round, but once you drive on it, it is slippery. Round is only for decorative purposes. It has no structural or drainage purpose. You dont see round on drainage pond outlets do you? nope. Good call on the varied uses of it. i know now why they use limestone and why we see it so much. French drain man gonna be pissy lol. You just showed a huge part of drainage science that others push that will fail.
Yep FrenchDrain Guy swears by Round Rock --- Not what I thought would be what be is to be used for a new basement build drainage and back-fill function.
At the end of video it didn’t have the material to wrap it with that you talk about so do you need that. Thank you for your video it is such a big help I also was told round rock and that just don’t work that stuff moved all over the place but the fabric do I need to do that too the end of video I didn’t see it on that drain when he was putting the stone in
I was taught that limestone rock is a poor choice for a French Drain because it will begin to deteriorate over time and eventually begin to pack down and restrict flow; instead choose river rock
Hey chuck, not sure if you saw from the last chat in the train spotting video, but I, use sensyne camera stands. I think you should take a look at some of them. 😃
Question, why would the underlying fabric clog more quickly if there is no gravel base layer? I am assuming the fabric is between the gravel pipe bedding and the raw earth in one case and between the pipe itself and the raw earth in the other case. In both cases the water rises directly from the earth past the fabric, then into either the gravel or the pipe itself if there is no gravel beneath the pipe. How does gravel on the inside of the fabric help it from being clogged? Or does he mean have a layer of gravel between the fabric and the raw earth?
I'd like to trench around the entire perimeter of my home with EZ flow and discharge to swales in the back yard and make a rain garden. Rather than fill the trench with dirt, is it acceptable to fill with drainage stone alone? I feel that this would greatly increase the amount of surface water it could collect. This is important because the house sits slightly below grade on all four sides. It is a very old home that was likely built on top of logs directly on the ground, no crawlspace, no basement.
I have some land that's nearly 100% silt soil. When it rains, the water runs across my dirt road. Wet Silt is like ice on top of water on top of ice. I just want a simple old school french drain across the road. Do I need the fabric and pipe? Old school french was just rocks. What to do?
So far a gray water laundry dry well, how would you mitigate the sludge and soap scum build up on these rocks or are the voidz big enough to handle it?
WOW thank you for this! I always felt angular #57 limestone would be best because there would be less movement. Round gravel offers NO structural support it in fact puts pressure on the structure around it!
57 limestone is recommended behind retaining walls. We have done retaining walls with natural springs saturating them and the engineer actually recommended using 57 limestone as base course with the water literally running through the base. To my knowledge there isn’t a difference in erosion between limestone and River rock. Water is the universal solvent and will ultimately erode anything. Just think the sand on the beach is really stone that has been pummeled by water over and over again.
That's a walkway not a foundation for one. He's in Florida for two. I guess three is...we'll, your wrong. Share some more knowledge and teach him a few more things.
I definitely agree with #57 river rock!!! Limestone leeches, coagulates, and eventually solidifies (so does iron slag) And having an appropriate barrier between the rock and top soil is also essential! I waterproofed a lot of basements for years, and you're absolutely correct with laying a layer of gravel under the French drain!!!!
That #57 and #67 highway stone is just crushed and sorted limestone, so I'll bet it's cheaper than naturally rounded pebbles-save them for landscaping. The contractors I regulated always used #57 when filling trenches that they dug to conduct PVC vacuum lines under gas station pavement for gasoline leak cleanups-they also used it to backfill new underground storage tank pits.
Pulled up a French drain that somebody did and the fabric was a mess while the area with the Round Rock had absolutely no roots or anything. It's making me think
Ok, I'll use the gravel but top with Mexican beach pebbles as I'm running French drain along front of house so MBP looks better. Btw, Florida downpours render gutters useless, imo.
Planning out a DIY 4" french drain alongside 30 ft driveway using corregated pipe leading to ouutlet. Have LOTS of large (river but not perfectly round) 4"-7 "rocks on property I was hoping I can get rid of by using it around the pipe within fabric. They definitely have large gaps and dont move around much like the smaller rocks. You think these larger rocks would work? Thx for your vids! Def helped me learn a lot and build confidence to take on a larger project in my back yard! Liked and subscribed!
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Timing is everything 😊 I am 50 feet into a 100 ft French drain digging by hand. Hope to be ready for stone , fabric and pipe by early next week if the weather permits in Ky. Thanks for the great videos. Be Blessed. Update: completed the drain and it’s working perfectly. Thanks for all the great videos!
Don't use fabric if you have a clay soil.
You have created informational legacy Chuck. Not just for french drains and all of its issues and solutions but on many other topics as well. I am sure that watching and learning community learned a bunch and will continue to learn even more. Thank you for sharing! 👍
Thanks Chuck! I bought the #57 stone..got a little worried when i saw other videos about round rock..there will lots of traffic around the french drain, so i made the best decision because of you.
Tremendously valuable information when there is so much contradicting information from other RUclips channels. The way you explain it makes total sense. Thank you for sharing your passion and knowledge for the sole purpose of helping others. We believe we can do it!
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Thank you for explaining the many uses of the 50-67 stone. These other companies are using round and telling people to use round, but once you drive on it, it is slippery. Round is only for decorative purposes. It has no structural or drainage purpose. You dont see round on drainage pond outlets do you? nope. Good call on the varied uses of it. i know now why they use limestone and why we see it so much. French drain man gonna be pissy lol. You just showed a huge part of drainage science that others push that will fail.
Yep FrenchDrain Guy swears by Round Rock --- Not what I thought would be what be is to be used for a new basement build drainage and back-fill function.
yep. Theres a reason we see limestone on every drain along the road. @@retiredperson4054
This is exactly what i wanted to know. Thank you
At the end of video it didn’t have the material to wrap it with that you talk about so do you need that. Thank you for your video it is such a big help I also was told round rock and that just don’t work that stuff moved all over the place but the fabric do I need to do that too the end of video I didn’t see it on that drain when he was putting the stone in
I was taught that limestone rock is a poor choice for a French Drain because it will begin to deteriorate over time and eventually begin to pack down and restrict flow; instead choose river rock
How come sometimes you use fabric and other times you only use gravel ?
This makes sense to me. They lock together like those tetrapod breakwater structures. There’s more than enough void in 57 stone.
Hey chuck, not sure if you saw from the last chat in the train spotting video, but I, use sensyne camera stands. I think you should take a look at some of them. 😃
You have a huge service area yet weI live outside of it. We need your help.
Question, why would the underlying fabric clog more quickly if there is no gravel base layer? I am assuming the fabric is between the gravel pipe bedding and the raw earth in one case and between the pipe itself and the raw earth in the other case. In both cases the water rises directly from the earth past the fabric, then into either the gravel or the pipe itself if there is no gravel beneath the pipe. How does gravel on the inside of the fabric help it from being clogged? Or does he mean have a layer of gravel between the fabric and the raw earth?
Same applies around a foundation footer? 57 the best to use?
Thanks Chuck !!
I'd like to trench around the entire perimeter of my home with EZ flow and discharge to swales in the back yard and make a rain garden. Rather than fill the trench with dirt, is it acceptable to fill with drainage stone alone? I feel that this would greatly increase the amount of surface water it could collect. This is important because the house sits slightly below grade on all four sides. It is a very old home that was likely built on top of logs directly on the ground, no crawlspace, no basement.
How do you decide to add the footer tiles inside or outside of a crawl space that floods?
I have some land that's nearly 100% silt soil. When it rains, the water runs across my dirt road. Wet Silt is like ice on top of water on top of ice. I just want a simple old school french drain across the road. Do I need the fabric and pipe? Old school french was just rocks. What to do?
can tire derived aggregate be used?
So far a gray water laundry dry well, how would you mitigate the sludge and soap scum build up on these rocks or are the voidz big enough to handle it?
WOW thank you for this! I always felt angular #57 limestone would be best because there would be less movement. Round gravel offers NO structural support it in fact puts pressure on the structure around it!
I thought lime stone wasn’t recommended because it is eroded by the water running over it.
57 limestone is recommended behind retaining walls. We have done retaining walls with natural springs saturating them and the engineer actually recommended using 57 limestone as base course with the water literally running through the base.
To my knowledge there isn’t a difference in erosion between limestone and River rock. Water is the universal solvent and will ultimately erode anything. Just think the sand on the beach is really stone that has been pummeled by water over and over again.
@@john_linderLimestone is very soft and prone to erosion though. Granite isn’t much more and it’s much more durable.
Do you know where can I purchased this #57 gravel.
Chuck, what is the best way to get in contact with you about starting a drainage business?
here, if we pick up the phone and make a call, a dump truck brings us stone. better than tearing up our vehicles.
7:43 That pipeline is way too shallow, it must be much lower and below the frost line and below the foundation base.
That's a walkway not a foundation for one. He's in Florida for two. I guess three is...we'll, your wrong. Share some more knowledge and teach him a few more things.
Wow. The misinformed spewing nonsense. Please don't vote.☮️
Frost line in FL is 0", so i think we're good
I definitely agree with #57 river rock!!! Limestone leeches, coagulates, and eventually solidifies (so does iron slag) And having an appropriate barrier between the rock and top soil is also essential! I waterproofed a lot of basements for years, and you're absolutely correct with laying a layer of gravel under the French drain!!!!
4 years ago we could get this material delivered in 22 ton dumps at $30-$33/ton. Its now $58/ton. Inflation sucks
Difference between 57 and 67 stone? Which grade stay green fabric? Economy, premium or professional?
57 3/4" gravel. while 67 is 3/4" and smaller
That #57 and #67 highway stone is just crushed and sorted limestone, so I'll bet it's cheaper than naturally rounded pebbles-save them for landscaping. The contractors I regulated always used #57 when filling trenches that they dug to conduct PVC vacuum lines under gas station pavement for gasoline leak cleanups-they also used it to backfill new underground storage tank pits.
Good information 👍🏽 Thank you for all of your advice and insight from your decades of experience.
Pulled up a French drain that somebody did and the fabric was a mess while the area with the Round Rock had absolutely no roots or anything. It's making me think
Ok, I'll use the gravel but top with Mexican beach pebbles as I'm running French drain along front of house so MBP looks better. Btw, Florida downpours render gutters useless, imo.
Why is one video saying something and the next video is something something completely different Chuck?
no idea why the algorithm popped this up, but im gonna watch it
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darn... i just used round pea gravel for my drain😒
@@Andrewatnanz it will work
Great video.... Thank You for sharing your experience.... I'm in Idaho and dealing with something similar..... This will be very useful information...
Planning out a DIY 4" french drain alongside 30 ft driveway using corregated pipe leading to ouutlet. Have LOTS of large (river but not perfectly round) 4"-7 "rocks on property I was hoping I can get rid of by using it around the pipe within fabric. They definitely have large gaps and dont move around much like the smaller rocks. You think these larger rocks would work?
Thx for your vids! Def helped me learn a lot and build confidence to take on a larger project in my back yard! Liked and subscribed!
Should you used stones for a non perforated pipe down spout drain that includes some basins?
What issue do you find with river rock? Too small?
Thank you. I learn much from each video!
If it works it must be a Democrat
You mean if it just lays there