How to play like Peter Hook of Joy Division / New Order - Bass Habits - Ep 22
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Thank you I was one of those people for the request
How about how to sound like Pete Way of UFO
U want to play like Peter Hook, joy divion....play against the guitar. Nobody could get away with it but hook. Necessity plus purposefully accidental equals the organic hook style.
When bands learn to play, they start to suck.
Great video but one correction. When Joy Division guys saw Sex Pistols in 1976, Glen Matlock played bass. And he was pretty good.
Peter Hook isn't a bassist, he's one of the few LEAD bassist aha. Excellent review, thanks for analysing the legend behind the JD sound !
Agreed, I always Said he's a terrible bass player, But he's probably the best Lead Bass who ever walked a stage lol, He doesn't play like a bassist, He Plays His Bass like a Guitar.
@@babel232 yeah ! plus the fact he plays way too loud with too much chorus. He kept punk and rock alive as much as he could in New Order !
"LEAD" bassist - lmao... to be a lead anything you must know scales, and play them.... he definately does not know any scales.... "LEAD" bassist ... hahahahahahahaha....
@@bassmuso go tell that to him then. I bet he’s made more money in a week than you ever will. Bell end
@@bassmuso also, Noel Gallagher doesn’t know any scales, and is one of the most famous rhythm and LEAD guitarists ever
YES
YEEEEESSSSS
Peter Hook is such a unique bassist in that he flies in the face of what a bass typically "should" do. I love bassists who break the rules in that sort of way.
Hooky's riffs are the greatest parts of best Joy Division and New Order songs. Simplicity, beauty and genius.
That just sums it up.
Agree with the comment about his limited technical abilities, and Hook would admit that too. He almost is like a non-musician that picked the bass and made it his own. Even with non-technical abilities, he was able to craft a unique style sound. There are a lot of "better" bass players who can't say that.
Agree, but I sometimes think it is kind of a crime against music that a guy with this talent didn’t spent just a few hours a week for a year or so to learn a bit about music and playing techniques. Not to conform to the mainstream bass playing, but to broaden his language. He is a bit stuck.
@@dirkpehrke9909 Not only did he craft his own unique style, being in Joy Division and New Order gave him a career that most musicians could only dream of. If you're going to criticise, I hope you've done better than he has in music.
@@dirkpehrke9909 i would rather be innovative and relevant than some nerd who practices scales all day and "dreams" of being in a band. Hook dosesnt need advice . He would tell u 2 FU anyways
@@iggypopisgod9 Hello, fellow Iggy Pop fan
You need only play one note on a bass guitar--and really any instrument, for that matter--in a song as long as it grooves. Victor Wooten has preached that all day long since like forever.
The New Order song Perfect Kiss is the best example of his bass playing. He plays it like it's a 6 string lead guitar. His Joy Division bass work is more iconic.
i was literally just listening to joy division thank you man
Peter Hook has always been one of my favorite bassists!
Peter Hook: Master ✅
You should do one of these on Mike Starr
Killer player, his isolated track for man in the box is probably my favourite tone ever
Mike Inez while you’re at it
@@tommybollschweiler9508 both are equally as good and bring their own unique style
I love the Joy Division baselines. So melodic
Very catchy
I’ve always thought/said that Hook plays the Bass like a lead instrument rather than a backing or supporting one. It’s very up-front and present as opposed to just laying down a simple bass line.
Great video but one correction. When Joy Division guys saw Sex Pistols in 1976, Glen Matlock played bass. And he was pretty good.
Came here to say, ha. Also check out Rich Kids, Matlock’s post-Pistols band with a pre-Ultravox Midge Ure, if you’ve not heard their one album. Pretty great.
Definitely Matlock rather than Vicious who influenced Hooky. I'd also suggest JJ Burnel- I think he copied his rig to begin with
@@alexanderwilliams3955 I remember seeing an interview where Hook corrects the interviewer that the one who inspired him is Matlock not Vicious
Glen wrote most of the tunes for the group and was an accomplished player
My favorite musician! And thank you for adding Procession to the list of his basslines. One of my favorite New Order songs. And I loved those photos of Hooky "enjoying" Benard's autobiography.
Peter Hook and Lemmy are probably the two bassists to make the bass sound completely different.
I respect your opinion but, if you really think that? You might want to expand your musical database/library.
@@SetFire2TheNightSky true
The overall sound of Chris Squire was unique as well.
"make the bass sound completely different" that is because both of them have absolutely no technique at all..... I have seen Lemy playing live with a Rock-a-billy band... but they had to have another bassist to do the walking bass... Lemy was unable to do it... fuck even I can jam Rock-a-billy bass...
@@bassmuso I've never heard of you before hahaha
It is always a pleasure to watch your channel. Between tutorials and biographies, my bass and I are grateful to you!
Alex James, Paul Simonon, and Andy Rourke would all be great videos
Yes, Alex James! One of my favorites!
Andy Rourke is a genius
Paul Simonon is badass
I think he has a Rourke video
Textbook example of how being a great musician has little to do with being a virtuoso player. "Love will tear us apart" is a simple, yet absolutely brilliant bassline.
Hook certainly had an impact on future bands. One of my all time favorites, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, had two bass players. Alex Griffin as lead bass was certainly inspired by Hook as his bright melodies are a signature sound for the band.
Really interesting video! I would love a video about Steve Severin, i love his bass style!
The bass player for the Sex Pistols that Hooky saw back in Manchester was Glen Matlock. Sid came much later.
Peter Hook, and Jean Jacques-Burnel, have always been my two favourite bassists - both made the bass the 'lead' instrument, rather than just following, note-for-note, the chords played by the guitarist.
Both bassists also had great stage 'presence' - Hooky with his low-slung bass so that he often had to bend forward to play it, and JJ Burnel prowling menacingly around the stage with his trademark black Doc Martens, and randomly doing karate-kicks without missing a note.
Nicely done. Peter Hook is definitely in my top 3 favorites because he is so unusual and unique.
Is Simon Gallup one of the other two?
Put simply, Hook started out seeking a 6 or 8 string bass guitar and ended up essentially needing only 2 strings. One note played to groove is all that's needed.
Awesome, thanks dude, your videos are always a pleasure to watch
At some point in the video he says that "he used effects chorus and delay which was very common at the time" when it was them - joy Division that popularised those effect in the kinda pop/goth/post punk/ambient scene. Hookie had many copy cats, like Gallup from cure, which he has covered in a previous vid.
Wait, what? Gallup is a copy cat?
The one I've awaited since I've been watching this series
Great wideo man.
These really make me think about my own playing and how to develop a style.
Love it. Great as usual
The video I've been waiting for
One of my favorite bassists from one of my favorite bands. Thanks for sharing.
One of my favourite bass players and an inspiration for me to start playing.
Please do a video on Mark Sandman from Morphine
I’d like to see that
That would be a fantastic video.
Uno de mis bajistas favoritos demasiado bueno!!!
Pura Vida!!🤘
Pura Vida!
Great video! Although you forgot to mention the Yamaha BB1200s which has been Hooky's primary 4 string bass since Love Will Tear Us Apart.
Yeah and the bb734. And I have no damn clue why hook isn't in the yamaha artist page but his son is?
@@Uroste Hook even has a signature Yamaha bass. Seems like Yahama needs to get on it.
@@Uroste Hooky doesn't use a 734. His son does. He's even got a story of being given one for free, asked to review it, and responding with "you shouldn't have stopped making the old one".
Nice profile pic. I got a factory records pin with that logo. A great local Chicago band called Charles Bronson stole that logo for shirts in the 90s too. Iconic.
Brillant, thanks man 👍
We need a video about Mike Mills of R.E.M. Hes super underrated!
Agreed
I hear a lot of Hook influence in Mike's playing.
dream come true! thx for this video :)
Hooks a legend
Great character
Ciao Paul, come sempre: bello! Si impara tanto e i video sono godibili. E poi tutti questi bassisti plettranti, con tutti questi segreti di tecnica, suono, strumentazione... Alla faccia di quelli che dicono che il plettro è per chi non sa suonare!
I love noodling around with Hooks' style, it's relaxing and exciting at the same time!!!
very well done, thank you
This is what I was looking for!
I love pedal tones on bass. I use it a lot.
excellent vid. Thanks. Next Andy rourke from the smiths’? An underated bass player.
*Hahahaha, OMG. I always thought the Blue Monday bit reminded me off the classic Western film !!!*
Peter is in the same category of bass playing as Adam Clayton (U2) in that they play what is necessary for the song and not overplay. Technically both are simple, yet effectively creating memorable riffs that highlight the song and allow other instruments and the vocals to shine through. Saw them playing back in the early 80's and still one of the better live shows at the time (considering no in ear monitors).
Another excellent video, Paul! I don't even play bass, but most (post-punk) songs I write come from the bass groove and build up from there. So your channel is like manna from heaven for me!
(one sidenote: Hook admired Glen Matlock, the original bassist and primary songwriter of Sex Pistols. Sid Vicious was a one note joke, but maybe not even one note. But he was even more inspired by the Stooges!)
Yeah Matlock was always a very solid bassist. I listened to Pistols demos and was taken aback by how melodic his bass lines were. I wish he'd never been thrown out of the band!
also with his playing the baritone guitar bass tuned E to E, that part of his style is a big influence to my playing using my Danelectro 6 string
omg thank you very very much
I find nothing unusual in Hook's playing. Just a tendency for playing modally, and with a rather bright sound. Is he a great bassist? Totally. It's not a matter of simplicity of the bassline but JUST DOING IT RIGHT IN THE END. In the end of the day, he is always so CONSISTENT. He sits right on the mix. Has evolved a lot technically throughout his career too. He makes the bass SPEAK to you. Always. He has done a lot of diverse stuff and he ALWAYS manages to transfer his enormous energy to the listener. Many show off pros can't do that. Just because he isn't playing slap funk 240 bpm type bass doesn't mean his technical abilities are limited. I totally disagree on this one. He is TOTALLY qualified for the genres he plays. AND HE HAS INSPIRED GENERATIONS OF GROUPS AND MUSICIANS. A huge impact on the historical flow of art.
George from Greece gets it.
She's lost control is pretty unique
Good 2 know that Joy D & New Order aren't YT blockers. Nice vid dude!
Something I've never seen or noticed before @4:44, Hook playing a Fender Precision bass or copy with lollipop tuners. Fender used these between 1966 and 1968 on Jazz basses. They're also found on a few '68 vintage Fender Precision basses but they're quite rare and it's a bit surprising to see Hook apparently playing one.
It was when New Order had their gear stolen in New York - Hooky ended up renting what appears to be a P bass.
Great video, only thing I think you missed was Lemmy's work in Hawkwind also being a large influence on not only Peter Hook but also The Sex Pistols
I need a vídeo of Jerry Only of Misfits please.
Yes!
Been listening to JD recently because some of my punk/new wave friends like them a lot. Pretty cool video as always.
Could you do Mike Starr or Johnny Christ maybe?
Do Carlos D formerly of Interpol 🔥
Great Bass player
YES FINALLY
Hooky changed the way I saw the bass. As much as I love basslines, he really sold me on the bass as a melodic instrument. Sumner's guitar playing with Hook also changed the way I saw the instrument. I'm sure other's have done it before, but Joy Division is what got me to see the bass playing melody and the guitar supporting the bass as an option and a way to change up the "orchestration" of guitar music.
6:15 that's actually yamaha bass with custom hollow body, and he played yamaha for most of the new order along with six string bass
Yes dont follow the root ♠️🤘 that what makes music in joy division en new order. Love iT 🦋🦋🙏❤️❤️
Great video! One of my big inspirations.
Maybe Mike Starr, Ben Shepherd or Andy Rourke next?
Shepherd please!!
Peter has a phenomenal style of playing.
Hi Paul
The fact is his strong personality and
Peter really has Charisma
Awesome man!
Are you maybe planning on doing an episode on Jean-Michel Labadie from Gojira?
Greatest bass player of all time. Perfect kiss is beautiful
To my ear of course. I know there are far more technical players.
@@WallieTheRed The best thing about bass is technicality almost never matters as long as the bass line suits the feel of the song. I think the post-punk genre is a great example of that.
Hook & Potts also started Monaco. Pretty good album. Check it out.
make a video about jerry only of misfits please. I need it. Your RUclips channel is very good, I'm your fan.
Please do one of these about Carlos Dengler(ex-Interpol). Oh and you have a funny way of speaking English.
Chas Chandler from the animals has some really good bass lines very underrated you should make a video lesson on Chas Chandler
Eerie Von for the band Danzig video lesson
what about going into more details, like what chorus he used?
You should do Jah Wobble in Public Image Ltd, his playing is massively hypnotic
YES! he has some great basslines. he and Hook are the bassists that inspired me to pick up a bass myself
YES! Peter and Jah are my bass kings
I forgot I even ever commented this, but I still think he needs to do Jah Wobble!
His bass playing is phenomenal on perfect kiss tho..and he slapped on the intro!..I mean he's no victor wooten..but he's still a badass bassist!
The bassline to disorder is my favorite thing to play on bass I think
How to sound like Peter Hook:
1) Become Peter Hook
This is the way.
step inside...
The Cars´ Benjamin Orr (R.I.P)...
top 👍
You should do jerry only from the misfits and cronos from venom
4:44 Damn. Now I want to hear a Joy Division mock of Hooky purely doing root 😂
Yes. His approach was what made him different.
Please do a Mike Herrera of MXPX ! 🙏🏼
A video of Mike Starr please!!!
Need to do Carlos D after this, Unknown Pleasures walked so Turn On The Bright Lights could run
I'd love a Mark Hoppus one or even a Mikey Way one
Mikey is pretty decent. He just had to play bass because his brother sang and friends played other instruments. But ended up becoming a good bass player. Pretty stable too.
Next time can u do flea plz
Have you done a video about Ryan from Mudvayne?
Any chance for a video about Andy Rourke, Lou Barlow or Greg Norton?
Lou Barlow!!
Hooky and Simon Gallup are my favorite bassists. Should my next bass be a j bass or p bass?
Can you do one on Mike Watt
Thank you
4:51 for the win. HOOKY!
Peter Hook wasn't inspired by Sid Vicious. When he saw the Sex Pistols in Manchester Glen Matlock was the bass player.
Punk pushed the boundaries of pop music, through common people who picked an instrument and got the most of it.
Peter Hook and Bernard Sumner traded bass/guitar roles for a couple JD songs, including the Sound of Music and Atrocity Exhibition. and I believe Heart and Soul as well. Weird thing is, you can't really tell.
Very interesting!
Please do Fat Mike-NOFX
That isn't a Gibson EB 1. It's a custom made Eccleshall bass that uses Yamaha BB1200S pickups and wiring.
About three and a half grand to you sir!!!
Still, a great video though. Cheers.
At 3:57 sounds like RHCP “by the way” , is this a Hook chord progression? Mmmm, if so sounds like some creative “influences” for the chilis
The point in his career coincided with a personal low moment and the famed guitarists dropped playing the instrument entirely. Instead, “music was only of passive importance to me as a listener. Back then, I played the music of two bans again and again, and to this day they are the only real constant in my musical life: Depeche Mode and Joy Division.”
“How about you fucking follow me”