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Im glad i've found this channel, im into alternative guitar stuff exclusiveley and cant really relate to most popular channels that focus on solos and blues-like playing only
Another huge part of the Cure’s sound was the Fender Bass VI. It’s the cross between a guitar and bass. A 30” scale length that is tuned EADGBE, only an octave lower. It’s a fantastic instrument.
What I love about these old post punk bands is how tasteful the guitar playing is - every note is deliberate and needs to be there making the music sound really punchy and tight. Absolutely no guitar wankery.
So much of that shit on Interwebs - so many Americans wanking on about the intricacies of their heroes and all their damned gear. It's onanism really. Imagine Mark E Smith watching Rick Beato or some other LA type.
Andy Gill of Gang of Four was emphatic that he wasn’t playing melody/lead; the guitar was for rhythm. A lot of post-punk has this inversion where the bass plays a more melodic role. Also, on Entertainment! at least, Gill used a cheap transistor amp with the treble turned up, and zero reverb. Some of my absolute favorite post-punk guitar is Robin Guthrie's on early Cocteau Twins records. Before he accumulated enough gear to sound ethereal or swirly, his sound was comprised of very harsh high-string arpeggios like the ones you demoed. In particular, the guitar sound on “Garlands” is just terrifying.
The Cocteau Twins disowned Garlands, but it's my favourite of all their albums. The guitar is so discordant and harsh sounding that I think it provides a contrast to the ethereal vocals, whereas on their later recordings there's not enough contrast as everything is drowned in reverb.
I've been working on John McGeoch songs lately, specifically his work with Siouxsie and the Banshees. It's definitely useful for your picking hand and chord voicings. He was famous for his unique use of flange, which was another prominent Post Punk effect.
Siouxsie and the Banshees' guitarists were tremendously influential in Post Punk, especially John McGeoch who Johnny Marr cites as a big influence on him (he's also a massive Nile Rodgers fan who he named his son after). And before that you have Television's guitarists Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine who loved 60s soul and R&B
A possible alternative to the chorus pedals you suggested, is the Boss BF-2 or BF-3 pedal. There's a video up on RUclips from a guy called Michael Banfield where he shows how versatile it is for not just flanger but chorus and other modulation effects. It nails so many of the post punk and other 80s alternative music guitar sounds that it's an obvious contender for what I call "three pedal" guitar boards - one each of distortion, modulation and spatial (delay/reverb) pedals. Edited to add that the EHX Memory Man was absolutely a part of the post punk sound as well as other genres it spawned. The Edge from U2 has stated it was what gave him his trademark sound long before he switched to Korg rack mounted units. A bit like the Boss flanger, it was much more than just a delay since it could produce modulated sounds as well.
Each Post Punk band of note tried to create their own sound. Often there wasn’t a lot of dirt used on amps, Jazz Chorus, HH and clean Fenders were super popular.
I really like this channel, your videos are very helpful to me. I'd love to write music in this style so I'm sure I'll be revisiting this video in the future. One thing your videos have made me want to do is go and relearn all of the music theory I forgot after high school but this time actually tie it into the guitar.
Ahh thanks so much mate. To be honest I think making these is actually making me a better guitarist too! I get to go through stuff I haven’t looked at for years and am learning new stuff too.
This was a great lesson! Thoroughly enjoyed playing along, My journey and education into this genre of music would not be as successful without this channel. Thanks mate! Cheers!
Great overview of how the stylistic elements (small voicings of the melodic content made more interesting with modulation effects) were pretty common but achieved with a variety of equipment. Everyone was looking for stark, jarring, impactful guitar bits and pushing away from the baroque elements of Zeppelin, KISS, Ted Nuget, etc. Ironically, this seems to have morphed into the pedal board arms race of shoegaze. A big part of The Cure's early sound was Robert Smith on a Bass VI. His current Schecter Baritone is a bit of an homage to that, and those instruments lend themselves to the spare chord voicings and pedaling open strings with modulation and keyboards + jangly guitars filling in the open sonic space. Joy Division's lack of bass on the bass parts fits in here as well though they tended to leave the space blank. I'd be interested to hear what you think of the rhythmic approaches these bands used and how the guitar fit in with bass & drums.
Thanks mate. I think you’re right. I guess like you mentioned the bass tended to be providing melody rather than low end bass! Really cool feature for sure!
I first heard Echo and the Bunnymen with the singles from Porcupine. To be honest it was probably the sitar that drew me to them. It was at the time my musical interest was growing and developing (up to then it was probably just teenybop/Top 40), and I'd always been drawn to what I later learned was new wave/indie/alternative. They's have been the first band I'd have bought the complete run of albums by (up to the album with Dancing Horses when they had pretty much become a tribute band to themselves in a way). Ocean Rain is probably them at their peak and was my fave album of all-time until proto-grunge and grunge of Pixies, Pumpkins, Nirvana et al.
Yeah ocean rain is a true masterpiece isn’t it. I remember Kiran (singer in my band) got to see ocean rain in full at Glastonbury. Wish I’d been there!
I love the Mogwai shout out nobody really seems to talk about them where I live. For Ritchie Sacromento the way I learned it was the chords to me were Aminor Fmajor Cmajor Gmajor for the main verse riff and the intro is just power chords of them on the d and g string way up beyond the 12th fret.
I don’t think it’s any secret, as the ‘70s moved into the ‘80s the Roland Jazz Chorus arrived. I believe its original concept was for jazz and blues guitarists as a lighter (slightly) more reliable alternative to the Fender Twin. Especially back then; before people were using power treatment units, voltages could vary and tube amps could be even more temperamental than they are today. As well as the clean - and great reverb, they marked the introduction of the chorus as an effect - it was some time after the introduction of the amp, that Roland told the circuitry from the JC and put it into the CH-1 pedal. The Police, The Cure, Siouxie and the Banshees, Martha and the Muffins, XTC, Culture Club and many others built sounds that all came from that range of amps. Later, The Cult would rely on it quite heavily - and now Metallica are known for using them. In the ‘80s some producers were even using them for amping synths to take advantage of the circuitry in them. The two problems that the amps have is that they aren’t tube and they don’t have the “looks” of a Marshall stack. Snobbery and image, have always meant that a huge number of these amps are kept hidden. There are players like James Hetfield who use them in the studio and live, but would never put one on stage, where it could be seen. In rock music, I can only think of Billy Duffy from the Cult who is happy to put them in his stack and extol their virtue. Bands like the Cure aren’t “ashamed” to be seen with them either. But everyone from the Beach Boys - famed for their “Fender” tones to Metallica known for their “Marshall” tones use them. They are an amp that most people wouldn’t know of. But are still in production - next year, they will turn 50yrs old, where most transistor amps - and quite a few tubes - only manage to sell for a few years before they are replaced or fall out of favour. The memory man was a popular pedal, and although it became hugely synonymous with dub reggae, the Roland Space Echo was loved by many bands. - I still associate it with dub, but I see the units have now been transformed into pedals, with Boss selling 2 or 3 models - I haven’t tried them, but if you are looking for the sounds from that era, they are probably worth a look at
Hi Dan....Was on the lookout for some post punk inspiration and your videos popped up. Great, relatable, honest and to the point videos. I realized you are in the October Drift band after watching. Love your bands fierce sound and hope touring went well. I love my Nano big muff , pitchfork and MXR Carbon Copy. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
So many great tips here. I was thinking "wow, dude looks so familiar, have I already watched his channel?" Nope. Just happen to be in one of my favorite new bands October Drift! Lolol! So thanks for the tips and the great records! 👍🏼
Loved this video.i grew up listening to this genre. It’s funny, I remember as a 15 year old kid bringing loose change in an old sock to the record shop when heaven up here came out to buy it. It and Joy division closer shaped my musical path. Now in my late 50’s I’m learning guitar. Good times👍
Yep, when you think about bands in punk, post-punk, and alternative, whether in England or America, these were bands that had no money. When you think about their gear, they played quite literally whatever they could get their hands on. Whatever was available. Cheap was great. Free was even better. Legal was OK, but negotiable. Sound was an afterthought, and people adapted to what was available. It's an interesting exercise. Don't pick gear to create a sound - buy two or three pieces of gear, and then make your sound out of them, period. Mind you, I tried it and utterly failed! I'm a reverb junkie and own a dozen reverb pedals. Been using the same phaser for years, though.
Yeah that’s really interesting! I think Play what you can get and then as you can afford more maybe you can sculpt it a bit better, but ultimately you’re gonna still get great sounds from cheap gear
Great video, thanks. This is useful. I like the idea of intertwining parts. 👍🏻 Like most genres, post-punk was a reaction to the music before it. So less chuggy power chords of punk, less bendy blues of Hendrix/Zeppelin. The bass was more prominent - sometimes funkier - and the guitars made space for it.
I play in an 80s alternative coverband. I don't want to use much pedals. So I use ehx soul food for some grit, ehx neo clone ( with dept switch up ) and a nux analoque delay. And I switched from a Epi SG to a Telecaster for a more trebly sound
Great video, agree i think that Will Sergeant is an often overlooked but massively influential guitar player. I was a massive Cure fan in the 1980s and love the guitar sound Robert Smith got on those first couple of albums. I read somewhere that alot of the studio sound was him playing two guitar lines with tuned slightly flat relative to the other to get that thick chorusy / flangy sound - never tried it but i think that is the basic principle of a chorus effect so who knows.
Awesome video! I know you probably don't like it much but a video about Post Metal, bands like Isis, Neurosis, Russian Circles and Pelican would be interesting! There isn't much about that style so yeah, Isis are a brilliant band though, even if you don't really like Metal
Absolutely no clue who you are but something told me to watch this and it was pretty cool. Not sure that I'll continue but at least I'm glad I saw this one.
Geordie Walker of Killing Joke used a Memory Man and most of the groups most seminal records from 1977 to the 90s and I believe John McGeogh of Magazine and Siouxie and Colin Newman of Wire used a lot of MXR modulation pedals which also tended to have a level knob you could drive a bit harder.
When it comes to guitars Telecasters are hard to beat, my main guitar now is a Tele Deluxe (because of Alex Kapranos from Franz Ferdinand) even with the humbuckers it cuts through like a tele standard.
Any advice on how to get the sound "Burning skies of elysium" uses i love their sound and i dont see any band taking their sound in the modern era they're so unique to me
Check out John McGeoch in Magazine playing open strings on songs like Rhythm of Cruelty. Might have been one of the first Post Punk guitarists to influence it.
i have a question, which e guitar is better for post punk? the tele or strato? I already have a p bass and am looking for an e guitar that complements my p bass for the genre.
I've never really listened to any of those bands, I've just heard a few songs by The Cure and one or two by Joy Division, but I do play some of those two note lines, oftentimes with more distortion.
Thanks! I mainly just use logic drummer and get different styles for what I want to play to. A top tip I’ve learnt to make them sound more ‘real’ is to add a little bit of distortion.
Whens the lesson book with tabs and sounds settings coming out? *hint hint lol. Great stuff as always.. and its free! thank you sir for all your hard work
a quick google of the term "angular" in the context of guitar will give you dozens of vague, often wildly conflicting definitions. here we have angular guitar, as rhythmic and non-melodic. many definitions describe angular as large, surprising intervals.
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Im glad i've found this channel, im into alternative guitar stuff exclusiveley and cant really relate to most popular channels that focus on solos and blues-like playing only
Thanks mate!!
Exactly. That's 99,9 % of the videos.
And bass videos are all only about funk. Is it really the only style you can play with a bass? 😂
Who are your fav guitar players?
Same here
92 likes says you’re not alone.
What is refreshing here is the absolute disregard of the so called proper way to play.
Another huge part of the Cure’s sound was the Fender Bass VI. It’s the cross between a guitar and bass. A 30” scale length that is tuned EADGBE, only an octave lower. It’s a fantastic instrument.
What I love about these old post punk bands is how tasteful the guitar playing is - every note is deliberate and needs to be there making the music sound really punchy and tight. Absolutely no guitar wankery.
So much of that shit on Interwebs - so many Americans wanking on about the intricacies of their heroes and all their damned gear. It's onanism really. Imagine Mark E Smith watching Rick Beato or some other LA type.
EXACTLY
Solid state amps, as opposed to tubes, were a big part of the post-punk sound. The Roland JC120 was used pretty often.
Ahhh yes 100% great shout.
Andy Gill of Gang of Four was emphatic that he wasn’t playing melody/lead; the guitar was for rhythm. A lot of post-punk has this inversion where the bass plays a more melodic role. Also, on Entertainment! at least, Gill used a cheap transistor amp with the treble turned up, and zero reverb.
Some of my absolute favorite post-punk guitar is Robin Guthrie's on early Cocteau Twins records. Before he accumulated enough gear to sound ethereal or swirly, his sound was comprised of very harsh high-string arpeggios like the ones you demoed. In particular, the guitar sound on “Garlands” is just terrifying.
The Cocteau Twins disowned Garlands, but it's my favourite of all their albums. The guitar is so discordant and harsh sounding that I think it provides a contrast to the ethereal vocals, whereas on their later recordings there's not enough contrast as everything is drowned in reverb.
Absolutely love Cocteau twins!
Damaged goods is such a good song
'Over The Wall' is a work of utter genius.
With the cr78 beatbox 🤩🤩🤩
I've been working on John McGeoch songs lately, specifically his work with Siouxsie and the Banshees. It's definitely useful for your picking hand and chord voicings. He was famous for his unique use of flange, which was another prominent Post Punk effect.
That’s a great shout! Nice one
Seriously underrated player imo, the more you listen to what seems simple the more you realise the guy was on a different level
John McGeoch is a god, his work with Magazine is hugely underrated
Siouxsie and the Banshees' guitarists were tremendously influential in Post Punk, especially John McGeoch who Johnny Marr cites as a big influence on him (he's also a massive Nile Rodgers fan who he named his son after). And before that you have Television's guitarists Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine who loved 60s soul and R&B
Very true! I need to listen to more of them!
You have great knowledge
Pleased you mentioned Television.
learned a bunch
Thanks again mate. Really do appreciate it.
You have to have a flanger along with delay and/or chorus. It really adds to atmosphere.
I need to see if I’ve got one hiding in the pedal draw
A possible alternative to the chorus pedals you suggested, is the Boss BF-2 or BF-3 pedal. There's a video up on RUclips from a guy called Michael Banfield where he shows how versatile it is for not just flanger but chorus and other modulation effects. It nails so many of the post punk and other 80s alternative music guitar sounds that it's an obvious contender for what I call "three pedal" guitar boards - one each of distortion, modulation and spatial (delay/reverb) pedals.
Edited to add that the EHX Memory Man was absolutely a part of the post punk sound as well as other genres it spawned. The Edge from U2 has stated it was what gave him his trademark sound long before he switched to Korg rack mounted units. A bit like the Boss flanger, it was much more than just a delay since it could produce modulated sounds as well.
Yeah Michael banfields videos are great aren’t they!
Ahhh that’s good tk know, I thought as much!
Each Post Punk band of note tried to create their own sound. Often there wasn’t a lot of dirt used on amps, Jazz Chorus, HH and clean Fenders were super popular.
I really like this channel, your videos are very helpful to me. I'd love to write music in this style so I'm sure I'll be revisiting this video in the future. One thing your videos have made me want to do is go and relearn all of the music theory I forgot after high school but this time actually tie it into the guitar.
Ahh thanks so much mate. To be honest I think making these is actually making me a better guitarist too! I get to go through stuff I haven’t looked at for years and am learning new stuff too.
This was a great lesson! Thoroughly enjoyed playing along, My journey and education into this genre of music would not be as successful without this channel. Thanks mate! Cheers!
Thanks so much mate!
Great overview of how the stylistic elements (small voicings of the melodic content made more interesting with modulation effects) were pretty common but achieved with a variety of equipment. Everyone was looking for stark, jarring, impactful guitar bits and pushing away from the baroque elements of Zeppelin, KISS, Ted Nuget, etc. Ironically, this seems to have morphed into the pedal board arms race of shoegaze.
A big part of The Cure's early sound was Robert Smith on a Bass VI. His current Schecter Baritone is a bit of an homage to that, and those instruments lend themselves to the spare chord voicings and pedaling open strings with modulation and keyboards + jangly guitars filling in the open sonic space. Joy Division's lack of bass on the bass parts fits in here as well though they tended to leave the space blank.
I'd be interested to hear what you think of the rhythmic approaches these bands used and how the guitar fit in with bass & drums.
Thanks mate. I think you’re right. I guess like you mentioned the bass tended to be providing melody rather than low end bass! Really cool feature for sure!
Thank you for showcasing this genre and sound, really capture the tone nicely with that telecaster, very clean but at times distorted tones
I first heard Echo and the Bunnymen with the singles from Porcupine. To be honest it was probably the sitar that drew me to them. It was at the time my musical interest was growing and developing (up to then it was probably just teenybop/Top 40), and I'd always been drawn to what I later learned was new wave/indie/alternative. They's have been the first band I'd have bought the complete run of albums by (up to the album with Dancing Horses when they had pretty much become a tribute band to themselves in a way).
Ocean Rain is probably them at their peak and was my fave album of all-time until proto-grunge and grunge of Pixies, Pumpkins, Nirvana et al.
Yeah ocean rain is a true masterpiece isn’t it. I remember Kiran (singer in my band) got to see ocean rain in full at Glastonbury. Wish I’d been there!
I love the Mogwai shout out nobody really seems to talk about them where I live. For Ritchie Sacromento the way I learned it was the chords to me were Aminor Fmajor Cmajor Gmajor for the main verse riff and the intro is just power chords of them on the d and g string way up beyond the 12th fret.
I'd also love to here more of a Mogwai style post rock lesson too that would be awesome but like I said great video.
Great tips!
That’s a great idea thanks!
I don’t think it’s any secret, as the ‘70s moved into the ‘80s the Roland Jazz Chorus arrived. I believe its original concept was for jazz and blues guitarists as a lighter (slightly) more reliable alternative to the Fender Twin.
Especially back then; before people were using power treatment units, voltages could vary and tube amps could be even more temperamental than they are today.
As well as the clean - and great reverb, they marked the introduction of the chorus as an effect - it was some time after the introduction of the amp, that Roland told the circuitry from the JC and put it into the CH-1 pedal.
The Police, The Cure, Siouxie and the Banshees, Martha and the Muffins, XTC, Culture Club and many others built sounds that all came from that range of amps. Later, The Cult would rely on it quite heavily - and now Metallica are known for using them. In the ‘80s some producers were even using them for amping synths to take advantage of the circuitry in them.
The two problems that the amps have is that they aren’t tube and they don’t have the “looks” of a Marshall stack. Snobbery and image, have always meant that a huge number of these amps are kept hidden. There are players like James Hetfield who use them in the studio and live, but would never put one on stage, where it could be seen. In rock music, I can only think of Billy Duffy from the Cult who is happy to put them in his stack and extol their virtue.
Bands like the Cure aren’t “ashamed” to be seen with them either. But everyone from the Beach Boys - famed for their “Fender” tones to Metallica known for their “Marshall” tones use them. They are an amp that most people wouldn’t know of. But are still in production - next year, they will turn 50yrs old, where most transistor amps - and quite a few tubes - only manage to sell for a few years before they are replaced or fall out of favour.
The memory man was a popular pedal, and although it became hugely synonymous with dub reggae, the Roland Space Echo was loved by many bands. - I still associate it with dub, but I see the units have now been transformed into pedals, with Boss selling 2 or 3 models - I haven’t tried them, but if you are looking for the sounds from that era, they are probably worth a look at
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Jazz_Chorus#:~:text=The%20Jazz%20Chorus%20is%20one,%2C%20Billy%20Duffy%20(The%20Cult%2C
Hi Dan....Was on the lookout for some post punk inspiration and your videos popped up. Great, relatable, honest and to the point videos. I realized you are in the October Drift band after watching. Love your bands fierce sound and hope touring went well. I love my Nano big muff , pitchfork and MXR Carbon Copy. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Ahh thanks so much!!
Post Punk is such a cool style to me. You did nice! Thanks for sharing!
So many great tips here. I was thinking "wow, dude looks so familiar, have I already watched his channel?" Nope. Just happen to be in one of my favorite new bands October Drift! Lolol!
So thanks for the tips and the great records! 👍🏼
Hahhaa no way! That’s awesome. Thanks for watching ✌️
Loved this video.i grew up listening to this genre. It’s funny, I remember as a 15 year old kid bringing loose change in an old sock to the record shop when heaven up here came out to buy it. It and Joy division closer shaped my musical path. Now in my late 50’s I’m learning guitar. Good times👍
As soon as you said Heaven Up Here I thought I'd listen to the whole video. Excellent work and very accurate. Well done. Subscribed.
Yep, when you think about bands in punk, post-punk, and alternative, whether in England or America, these were bands that had no money. When you think about their gear, they played quite literally whatever they could get their hands on. Whatever was available. Cheap was great. Free was even better. Legal was OK, but negotiable. Sound was an afterthought, and people adapted to what was available.
It's an interesting exercise. Don't pick gear to create a sound - buy two or three pieces of gear, and then make your sound out of them, period. Mind you, I tried it and utterly failed! I'm a reverb junkie and own a dozen reverb pedals. Been using the same phaser for years, though.
Yeah that’s really interesting!
I think Play what you can get and then as you can afford more maybe you can sculpt it a bit better, but ultimately you’re gonna still get great sounds from cheap gear
Super underrated channel. So glad i found it!
Thanks so much!
Brilliant. Post punk is arguably the most important development in popular music since the Beatles and Stones.
Great video, thanks. This is useful. I like the idea of intertwining parts. 👍🏻
Like most genres, post-punk was a reaction to the music before it. So less chuggy power chords of punk, less bendy blues of Hendrix/Zeppelin. The bass was more prominent - sometimes funkier - and the guitars made space for it.
Seaven Seas...Swimming there so well...
The Cure, smash that chorus!
💜🙌
I play in an 80s alternative coverband. I don't want to use much pedals. So I use ehx soul food for some grit, ehx neo clone ( with dept switch up ) and a nux analoque delay. And I switched from a Epi SG to a Telecaster for a more trebly sound
Really love this channel. I wish I had videos like this when I started playing the guitar
Great video, agree i think that Will Sergeant is an often overlooked but massively influential guitar player. I was a massive Cure fan in the 1980s and love the guitar sound Robert Smith got on those first couple of albums. I read somewhere that alot of the studio sound was him playing two guitar lines with tuned slightly flat relative to the other to get that thick chorusy / flangy sound - never tried it but i think that is the basic principle of a chorus effect so who knows.
Ahh that’s really cool! I might have a go at that.
These arpeggio lead things work great along with open strings when you find the right spot and in the right song. Instant Cure.
Fun video thanks! Also, love October Drift, just got into them. Great band!
Thanks so much!
Thank you for demystifying the post-punk guitar sound 🙏
Awesome video! I know you probably don't like it much but a video about Post Metal, bands like Isis, Neurosis, Russian Circles and Pelican would be interesting! There isn't much about that style so yeah, Isis are a brilliant band though, even if you don't really like Metal
Absolutely no clue who you are but something told me to watch this and it was pretty cool. Not sure that I'll continue but at least I'm glad I saw this one.
The cure also uses a lotta flanger and sometimes only a little where it sounds chorusy but it’s flanger too :)
Should 2:46 be a F#m Barre chord?
Haha oh god, yeah my bad!!! 😂😂
Really enjoying this channel and music, great video. Will be checking out Gang of Four!
Geordie Walker of Killing Joke used a Memory Man and most of the groups most seminal records from 1977 to the 90s and I believe John McGeogh of Magazine and Siouxie and Colin Newman of Wire used a lot of MXR modulation pedals which also tended to have a level knob you could drive a bit harder.
When it comes to guitars Telecasters are hard to beat, my main guitar now is a Tele Deluxe (because of Alex Kapranos from Franz Ferdinand) even with the humbuckers it cuts through like a tele standard.
Ahh that sounds awesome. Yeah the ones with humbuckers look great to be fair!
Cool video. Going to employ a good bit of what I just learned. Post punk bands yielded a lot of creative guitar work.
I think Gated Reverb played a part of the post punk, I think Mission of Burma and Wire are Definitely my Favourite post punk bands
That makes sense actually!
saw the heaven up here cover, liked this.
Great video. That open string drone is a trick I use a lot. Learned it from Billy Duffy, Stuart Adamson and Jake Burns
Thanks!! Oh awesome!
What is the pedal you used awhile back thats half big muff and half boss chainsaw
Did you mean the Warlow? Half rat half bigmuff?
Any advice on how to get the sound "Burning skies of elysium" uses i love their sound and i dont see any band taking their sound in the modern era they're so unique to me
The riff at 6:20 sounded straight out of an interpol song
Edit: nvm you mentioned that like 10 seconds later
Haha! It’s basically ‘rescue’ by the bunny men but it totally does doesn’t it.
I like using blues drivers for these kind of tones gives it a nice sharpness
Check out John McGeoch in Magazine playing open strings on songs like Rhythm of Cruelty. Might have been one of the first Post Punk guitarists to influence it.
very nice! One thing though: Robert Smith's effect by definition was flanger, and "A Forest" is like the ultimate example of it.
Yeah fair!
I make music with these influences and your explications are great. The flanger was used a lot too.
Unbelievably helpful and inspiring. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a great video. Bunnymen are superb!
I'd be curious to hear if you have any experience getting these sounds but through using plugins in a DAW rather than pedals etc?
ur videos open my creativity soooo much thank you
Amazing video, keep up with nice post-punk stuff, you rock!
Thanks for the hacks!!! Grew up listening to these bands!!!
🙌🙌
Have you covered Bob Mould with Husker Du and Sugar? Or Joey Santiago with The Pixies?
No, but there’s some pixies stuff in my video coming out Sunday!
great lesson, merci. btw, is it a Player Tele?
Merci! Im not sure it’s not mine, I will have a look at the studio today!
Love the vid! What’s the guitar on the thumbnail? Its beautiful
i have a question, which e guitar is better for post punk? the tele or strato? I already have a p bass and am looking for an e guitar that complements my p bass for the genre.
nice Tele and sounds, totally post punk 🤘
Another great lesson. You’ve really helped me become a more creative guitarist.
Thanks mate!
What kind of guitar is good for post punk ? I have the Epiphone Les Paul with humbuckers ?
Also for a human Tetris type of sound
Yeah you’ll get a good sound, just pop it on bridge pick-up! And add trebles/cut bass from the amp
I really appreciated this video. great info!
How do you do your drums man?
+1 for the Shergold behind you
I've never really listened to any of those bands, I've just heard a few songs by The Cure and one or two by Joy Division, but I do play some of those two note lines, oftentimes with more distortion.
Deffo worth a listen mate!
@@thesethingsmakenoises I will, eventually 😄
Except for the self hate underlying many lyrics, was a very inspiring life positive subgenre.
You keep putting out great stuff! BTW, how do you do your drum tracks?
Thanks! I mainly just use logic drummer and get different styles for what I want to play to. A top tip I’ve learnt to make them sound more ‘real’ is to add a little bit of distortion.
@@thesethingsmakenoises that’s cool. I wonder if I should upgrade to Logic or maybe just get EZ Drummer
Whens the lesson book with tabs and sounds settings coming out? *hint hint lol. Great stuff as always.. and its free! thank you sir for all your hard work
Haha! That sounds like a great shout 😂
Superb! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Well done!
Very useful, learned a lot
Whats the guitar from a thumbnail? 😅
The Cure is more flanger effect than chorus. Like Boss BF-2.
The amp is literally a JC120
That chord trick… I’ve been playing for about 10 years…. Thanks for making me feel like an idiot 😂
Ritchie Sacramento is Danny Californias step son.😜🤘
Hahaha!
It reminded me of REM and U2
Sounds so fucking good man.
Just great sounds.
Thanks mate!
Love this video
I Love this Channel!!!
Thanks dude!!
Roland JC120......
I heard that Kyle's sister plays bass.
Hahaha!
Share your excitment discovering heaven up there, on a Walkman at night, in my 20 people french military service room in 1981….
John McGeoch and keith Levene are both gods
I have no clue what you mean when you keep saying angular.
Not new to guitar but this nomenclature has foiled me.
Интересно! Спасибо!
Indie!
awesome
a quick google of the term "angular" in the context of guitar will give you dozens of vague, often wildly conflicting definitions. here we have angular guitar, as rhythmic and non-melodic. many definitions describe angular as large, surprising intervals.
I dont remember bernard sumner from joy division using guitars with single coil pick ups
More Geordie Walker. More John McGeoch.
Fair!!
Your the best
Thanks mate!
Been greedily waiting for my bleach to arrive. Ordered in august...
Ahhh awesome! Any idea when they are dropping?
No idea@@thesethingsmakenoises I think they're getting fed up with me asking! ordered a super weirdo as well. kinda wish i'd ordered a fernweh...