Every Televised Joy Division Performance
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- This is a compilation of every time Joy Division appeared on television, mainly for my own listening use. Only the last two on BBC's Something Else were broadcast across all of the UK - before that, they only appeared locally on television in the Northwest of England.
00:00 - Shadowplay, Granada Reports, 20th September 1978
Only broadcast in the Northwest, and my personal favourite. Peter Hook was peeved here as he also came from Salford, not just Bernard. Credits to FageOner for remastering the footage to such a beautiful quality. Original video can be found here: • Joy Division - Shadowp...
4:41 - She's Lost Control, What's On (Granada TV), 20th of July 1979
Only broadcast in the Northwest, this episode was lost from its original broadcast to around October 2020, 41 years. The full footage is still lost, with only around half of it recovered. Notably, the Granada archives show a different broadcast date for this episode, showing the 19th of July rather than the 20th. Once again, credits to FageOner for remastering the footage, even if their remaster's quality is completely ruined by my reupload. Original video: • Joy Division - She's L...
7:18 - Transmission, Something Else (BBC2), 15th September 1979
Broadcast nationwide. This is by far the most well-preserved and well-known of all of JD's live performances. Recorded on the 1st of September along with She's Lost Control. Original video on the Joy Division channel: • Joy Division - Transmi...
10:30 - She's Lost Control, Something Else (BBC2), 15th September 1979
Broadcast nationwide. She's Lost Control was recorded before Transmission and shown before it on the original broadcast, I just have it last on this video because I don't like the song as much as Transmission. This video is one of the best showcases of Ian Curtis' unique flailing dancing style. Original video: • Joy Division - She's L... 
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Soon, I will likely compile all videos of Joy Division performances in general that I can find. I had a compilation for all audio recordings of Joy Division that were ever made (including the infamous and mysterious Band on the Wall tape) in the works, but it got all the way up to 17 hours long, and it would have been hell to render and upload, so I scrapped it.
Update: It's out. ruclips.net/video/MxW4SSGB-kc/видео.htmlsi=bP4Enn-ENkIm1zSg
you should post the rare ones
Thank you so much for all your effort in sharing this ❤
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Très bonne nouvelle !
"All televised performances" - 14 minutes. This hit me in an unexpected way. Should have been so much more.
Agreed! 14 minutes is very surprising!
Ian sadly died before the band had time to get big. They were supposed to go on their first US tour in 1980, but that never happened.
There were only three channels in those days, with closedown at about mudnight so I'm surprised that they got any TV time at all.
it required a savvy and pushy Tony Wilson to convince broadcasters to take a risk in showing off these gems.
@@Lucas-np3ru that and the very short band "life".
Ian Curtis was an ancient soul trapped in the body of a young man suffering from epilepsy.
I love it that they all look like temp employees at an office.
They called it an "anti-image." They looked like regular working-class blokes and it inspired a lot of people. Didn't do interviews either, and when they did, they would just joke the whole time, it pissed off media companies. Kinda like what the Sex Pistols did but less aggressive and with a more average look.
@@vampyra1453interesting. I didn't know that was intentional. I thought it was because they were working class.
@@joellebrodeur1015 In their early times, they dressed differently. Semi-flashy black clothes, a more tame version of early punk fashion. They dropped it pretty quickly. They were pretty much the only punk band back then that just started dressing normally.
Yeah, they do!
the fact they were this young playing this tight/accurate with zero holes in their sound AND their sound was like nothing else at the time shows how big Joy Division could’ve been.
Still crazy to me how I see Joy Division and Pink Floyd t shirts at target while most people who might even enjoy the musick still don’t know the extent of thr darkness of the bands histories
But they were big. Just without one member and under the name new order. Individually, all of these guys are great musicians.
@@Idolhands7007 Questionable Morals Of How They Treated And Pressured Ian Up To His Suicide Tho....... Of Course Ian Had His Own Questionable Morals.....
Man, this insane, beautiful
Steve Morris doesn’t get enough credit. Just awesome.
Literally a drumming machine
Ian curtis is my hero lyricaly but Stephen morris' drumming is so tight on every one of these videos. Its a work of art
Morris was the first drum machine.
Absolutely unreal drummer
Iam starting to realise how good a drummer Morris was and brought it all together,often drummers are side lined and insignificant but with JD it was so much more.
@@droidy4621 can't disagree with that Stephen was/is a phenomenal drummer
Was lucky enough to see them 6 weeks after the shadow play performance as a support act in London
That version of 'Shadowplay', is the only 1978 Joy Division live performance in circulation.
Was that for Echo and The Bunnymen?
@@muradtalukdar4401 undertones with rezillos as main act. Think teenage kicks had only just come out
That’s fing awesome!
They were young & they were absolute LEGENDS.
I was a kid back then, and I ran to the tv when I heard this band play and watched them mesmerised
-- The more time passes, the more I wonder if any of this ever happened. It seems so amazing and so fantastical, to be true. Rest in peace Ian, hard to believe it’s been 44 years. 💔
The videos display the ultimate charisma of Ian very well.
Enjoyed this very much... i arrived London in June 1980 and Joy Division was no more ... but their music is still here!!
best Transmission for sure
Morris is almost frantic back there. An intense band to watch
One of a number of cruel twists of fate behind the brilliant Joy Division: The band were booked to perform "Ceremony" & "Heart & Soul" live at BBC studios in May 1980. They arrived at the studio, but the sound engineers never arrived. Back then, UK had lots of workers out on a general strike. So Joy Division were asked to reschedule the date & return soon after. Sadly, by then Ian had departed.
Till today I have only seen little clips of these performances. This made my day .
god rest his soul..he didnt deserve to suffer he was a beautiful human
We all suffer, none of us are immune. It's far tougher to continue to choose a way forward.
What a treasure trove! I've been revisiting Joy Division for the past few days and I honestly reckon this live version of Transmission is BETTER than the album version. Steves drums are incredible!
Thanks for archiving this matey x
Thank you for putting this together in 2021 I think I discovered that I truly truly loved just about everything JD Joy division ever did and how much I loved Ian Curtis and like the others as soon as I see him I mesmerized and just went on a journey looking for everything in the highest quality I could find on RUclips including the transmissions releases where they talked about their story and it was sad how little there is live agreed their French named live album was one of my favorites, les bains douches
RIP Ian Curtis 😢
Haunting. Absolutely haunting. Thank you for this. Seeing Ian enjoying performing is a gift.
Hello, vampyra1453. Thanks for the clips, I really enjoyed them. Poor lad - his vulnerability, sadness, sincerity, and wisdom is written all over him. He was so handsome, too. Bit like that guy out of the Manics, Richie Edwards. Hopefully in this day and age, folk are a bit more alert to the warning-signs before things get critical.
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Esse é um dos vídeos mais PESADOS do youtube ❤
Great to see these again, thank you! I was listening to Still last night in the studio, not many bands can achieve this level of stripped down majesty, they were profound and most certainly a zeitgeist and they still sound completely fresh and relevant. I’ve been listening to them since 1985. The lyrics to Digital sounded so prophetic last night.
Historic gems! Wonderful to see them online.
Thanks for posting this 🙏🏼
Excellent audiovisual material , jewel stuff !!!! Thanks a lot for uploading for us UK Music lovers alternative scenes!!! Im very Happy
Thanks for sharing these masterpieces! 😊
Northwest England then must be a place to be to have that "magic touch".
Manchester's always been a place of great music. Joy Division is just one of a repertoire of good bands from there.
Wow! I really LOVE those videos! I was not even aware they existed! Many thanks for posting!
Thanks very much, reelkoole 🎸
Best band ever by far
Thanks for this, such an incredible band. I never got to see them live, too young. So first chance was New Order in 1984, who were great with analogue synths and the feeling that at any moment it could all fall apart while being just beautiful.
I always love the somewhat rackety and thrown together nature of older New Order performances. It somehow makes them better. There's one I remember watching a video of where Bernard just yells "turn off the light you cunt" right as the beat-drop on Blue Monday happens, and that just made me think "these guys really are just a bunch of punk blokes with synths."
@@vampyra1453 I saw New Order 4 or 5 times, the best was the one in 84, Blue Monday took five minutes to set up (roadies and the band setting up the sequencers) it was just floor shaking and ear drum killing brilliance. My other memory from that gig was that Thieves Like Us had just hit the charts and the audience sang along to the chorus, all the band had the broadest of smiles at that.
Ian Curtis Forever ❤❤
Outher worldly
So, judging by a comment below, I've had the 2 Joy Division albums approx 44 years? And they are both in perfect condition along with all the hundreds of LPs I bought before 44 years ago & after 44 years ago
Thank you
They almost did one more television session...It was gonna take place on May 9 on Something Else. They were gonna play "Ceremony" and "Heart and Soul." Didn't happen because the fucking cameraman went on strike.
I bet his stupid ass he went on strike for not getting enough breaks
god reading this makes me so pissed off that it never happened 😭 i love those two songs
@@halloweenjean Love your channel thumbnail. I loved Final Fantasy Origins on PS1.
thank you
Transmission was and today is a music than more play in radio here in Brazil . Ian Curtis really suffer witch their illness . These guys were amazing . Thank you so much Vampyra1453 , i never had saw image of Joy Dvision with quality .
Há mais aqui:
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Thank you so much
Obrigado
Thank you for compiling these performances, I receive this and shall gift it to others. Ian deserves to be known, his spirit still lives on in his songs.
So sad and crazy that Ian Curtis unalived himself right before their last album came out and was a smashing success! Maybe it would not have changed things in Ian’s mind but would have loved to see what other songs they would have come out with!
One of my favorite bands of all time.
Love this shared m8
Fantastic
AMAZING ❤
Well done
Im a huge JD fan and I'm going to see Peter Hook & the Light later this yar...but my goodness Ian's voice was shocking...RIP Ian x
Joy Division!!!!!!! The best for ever.
Nice one. New subscriber ✌🏻
"I think Joy Division has a nicer ring to it."
marvelous
nice pfp
Awesome really like the Shadowplay song
Ian Curtis's spirit lives on in his songs, he never left here, his body just decided to set his spirit free of pain so he could be immortalized in his artwork. Our heartsongs are the place where we feel joy and rapture. Ian went home, where the heart is. ♡
Spirit is eternal. 🎶👻
Primordial
That presenter didn't know what joy division referred to. What a doofus
if he didn't know then he knew soon after as he signed them to his label.
@@baggers16444 im not talking about tony...im talking about the guy with glasses
@@thewkovacs316 oh aye ...him - indeed.
“Joy Division has, I think, a nicer ring to it…” 😂
It could be worse.. A friend of mine used to call them joy Davidson 😂😂
I've just realized how much Ian Curtis looked like Keir Dullea from 2001: A Space Odyssey. Plus he sang like Hal 9000!
Probably intentional, as New Order they sampled the film in the song Murder.
Cool downpicking on Shadowplay.
MTV would have had Joy Division on heavy rotation, if the channel had existed before 1981.
Ehhh…no. I wish. But this sound had no traction whatsoever in the US.
GEIL❤
Transmission dance dance dance to the radio 🎉😢❤😔 , and disorder done live plus lyrics let alone most everything else like 24 hours really hits the feels and my favorites, while Love will tear us apart version featured in Donnie Darko will always be my number one favorite that I heard first before the others
Seventies group... incredible...
Sûrement un des meilleurs groupes 👍
He was giggin’’
The space is the place .
They played The Pavilion Hemel Hempstead on the same weekend I was born in november 1979. I know they hated that tour with the Buzzcocks still think it's cool they played here though.
Albrecht makes a big deal out of coming from Salford, but Morris and Curtis came from Macclesfield, which isn't Manchester either.
1980/05/18 RIP Ian 🙏🏽
Still miss JD & ian 💔
Curtis forever
01:33 Great stuff
Great "overlays" on this video. 7:07 p.m (Pacific Daylight Savins Time, U S.A .
i always thought they did OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST , as well ,memory isnt s good as it was,
a revelation
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Howe many live performance are there video recorded from clubs, or festivals?
There are 4 known recordings of Joy Division concerts. One of which has only fragments that are publicly available. There is rumoured to be a fifth.
ruclips.net/video/MxW4SSGB-kc/видео.html
Once upon a time, this primitive music with a deeply sick boy on vocals seemed innovative.
And somehow, we haven't had anything like it since.
Right, they were a real band, not many of these around, the authenticity of the music, the subject matter, truly visionary indeed.
still sounds extremely fresh
Ian Curtis' committed suicide on my birthday. 😢
❤ Joy Division and RIP Ian Curtis.
They did never played in another country tv?? I mean i know they were huge in Germany but dont know if they did play in the tv elsewhere
No, only in the UK.
Only 14 minutes? How wrong is that?
If only Ian lived longer. Maybe we'd get Blue Monday with him on vocals.
Am I right in saying there are no clips of him speaking, not even audio?
There are a few. You can hear him speak in between songs in the many audio recordings of their concerts, but there is a recorded 10 minute interview as well.
ruclips.net/video/DauN0oHgh4A/видео.htmlsi=xN5defsOHwBYWn4w
I think there are more recorded interviews but that is the most complete one.
@@vampyra1453 Thanks, you're a star!
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Joy Division has a much nicer ring to it.😂
Forget about it...
You listen sure bubble gum music? 😊
Uhhh. Yeah, ok….
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@@vampyra1453 thank you for this tasty meal…came along at just the right time.
‘’”Joy Division” has a nicer ring to it”
Yes… it’s much more pleasant to think about a group of Jewish women who were forced into sexual servitude to Nazis than it is to think about a Polish city
He likely did not know about the origin of the name. Warsaw was intended as a reference to Nazis as well anyway so neither of the names are quite clean.
@@vampyra1453 Yes, I realize that, and as an American who previously envisioned Brits as being generally intellectually superior to my countrymen, I now realize I’ve been mistaken in that perception for most of my life. People from the UK are more pretentious than Americans but are not more intelligent
@@gregbors8364 No country has more intellectually superior people. We are all humans with more or less the same brains, we're one of the least diverse animals in existence. There are only differences in education systems. As another American, I quite hate our education system(s). In my school we never even learned about things like World War I or the War of 1812 (current history nerd me is especially displeased with this), but I am also from a poor part of the Deepsouth where schools are quite terrible, and we still beat kids for not doing the pledge. So many myths are taught as well, like the bullshit glorification of Columbus and the whole sea of myths around the Civil War. Even small things like camels storing water in their humps, it feels like I learn that my school taught new utter bullshit every week. I've been to the UK and have a lot of British friends who I've always been amazed by the things they learned in school as opposed to what mine taught, even the ones from rural areas. Both countries are ultimately pretty shit overall at the end of the day though.
I've always heard of joy division, especially since I love the band Interpol, but this is my first time listening to them and I have to admit and be honest that I don't get it, maybe you have to be from this time to understand the music or get what's innovative about it. I'm not saying it's bad or they aren't good, just saying that I don't get the appeal.
I assume a lot of it comes from the time. This was the late 70s. That doesn't really sound like that long ago, but it was really different. Nobody had ever played music like this before, period. Siouxsie and the Banshees were kinda getting into it, along with The Cure, but Joy Division were the first to really break out of the mould. In the popular world, there was disco, there was punk, and there was mainstream rock like Led Zeppelin. To a lot of people, Joy Division sounds generic, too much like a lot of modern indie bands. That's because Joy Division laid the foundations for a huge amount of alternative music, from goth rock to darkwave. Hell, Joy Division alongside a few other bands founded an entire subculture, the goth subculture. It reminds me a lot of how Tolkien seems too much like generic fantasy to a lot of people (including me) because Tolkien basically invented fantasy.
There's also the fact of what came after Joy Division, which was New Order. After the lead singer hung himself (RIP Ian, we'll be coming up on an anniversary of his death soon, May 18), the members of the band reformed as New Order. New Order then proceeded to become absolutely massive and make the best-selling 12 inch single of all time, Blue Monday. A lot of people come to Joy Division from New Order, and it really sticks with them, because Joy Division is just kinda.. grittier New Order. I prefer Joy Division by many miles but Dreams Never End is one of my favourite songs.
I don't really know what draws other people to JD in particular either, I'm honestly just guessing. For me, it's just the unique sound. I'm 17, I was born ages after even New Order had more or less faded away, I don't have the nostalgia factor. Yet, even now, here in 2024, I've never heard anything like Joy Division; the unique evolution of punk rock. The beginning of two of my favourite genres ever, post-punk and goth rock. I've never heard anything even remotely similar to their sound, and I don't think I ever will as much as I hope so. They were a product of the time and place, and I don't think it can be replicated anymore. I wish we could have another first generation of goth bands, I really do, but I don't ever think we will. Nothing can ever replicate the feelings I get when I hear Shadowplay or New Dawn Fades come up on my playlist (by the way, if you haven't already, do check out New Dawn Fades, I've never found anyone who doesn't like it and its my favourite song from JD) except those songs. Hell, no other song can make me cry like The Eternal and Decades can, especially knowing vaguely what was going through the head of the man who wrote those lyrics, the man who would be dead in a matter of months after writing them as well. That's another thing, the people behind the band and the history of it. I've studied it for years now, and I don't doubt that other people have a similar obsession with the history, because it really is interesting. Ian especially is very interesting. You can see how.. odd he acts on stage in the videos. He had a very unique and charismatic stage persona in perhaps the strangest ways. He also resonates with a lot of people including me who struggle with depression, because he exemplifies his feelings in his lyrics:
"Directionless, so plain to see
A loaded gun won't set you free
So you say"
This. These lyrics from New Dawn Fades specifically always get to me in a very visceral way. Everybody tells you, suicide won't fix anything, it won't "set you free." But it doesn't change what I think, which is that it will. I so very truly do get the feeling of just wanting to end it and being surrounded by people who keep trying to convince you out of it. It sounds like dribble, it sounds meaningless and like parents lecturing you while you know better. I don't know what it is but those lyrics just really hit home, and especially his subtly dismissing delivery of them. All of Ian's lyrics evoke a pretty visceral feeling for me, like he's just speaking straight out of my brain. But those lines hit the hardest. Something about Ian enabled him to translate turmoil and utter despair into music and lyrics in such a poetic way without losing any of the meaning or weight.
I dunno. I'm up at near midnight writing basically an essay about this. I really don't know how to answer your "question" but it got me thinking and getting analytical. I'm really passionate about JD but I've never bothered to think about what has drawn me to them so heavily. The only thing I can really tell you is that you should listen to the studio versions and then live versions, because they are frankly kinda different genres. The studio versions are really spacious and almost melancholic, but their live performances have always been more on the punkier side, with a lot of energy.
Gosh these video effects are terrible. I always found this was really a shame. But unfortunately we can’t do much about that.
Yeah, always hated the weird overlays on the What's On and Granada Reports footage. Hurts more knowing that this was the 70s and they had to burn that stuff onto the film manually, thinking it was the coolest thing ever. Which to be fair, it was probably pretty cool to an audience of the time.
I kind of dig the effects on the What's On footage, but yeah the stuff on the Shadowplay performance isn't great. Did they not think that maybe people would have difficulty actually setting the band? Probably not.
Joy Division would be nothing without NewOrder.
More the other way around. New Order would have never took off without the foundations that JD laid, like the relationship with Factory and the huge storm surrounding Ian's death.
liked them better when they were New Order
I don't think they're very comparable. Very different audiences in different times. At that point, it's more of which genre you prefer rather than which band.
They were Joy Division.
This has nothing to do with New Order.
Just an abysmal group. What a mess.
Absolute amazing band..go crawl under your rock
@petercronin5345 They have all the talent of a 13 year old's garage band. The drummer was the only semi-talented.
But you people don't half lap up mythology eh?
You people.. so tell me your taste in music chump
@@petercronin5345 None that vacant fanboys and grief merchants would print t-shirts about.
They're just a band mate. And I think they're very poor. That's all.
So name them vacant fanman @rehash 😅 thanks for that it best describes someone like you vacant of substance and nameless bands
total shite!
Can you claim disability benefits for being born with no taste in music?
Zenith of 20th century culture
Thanks for this!!...the best band in the world....a hug from Punta Alta Argentine.....
Do you know sumo?...argentinian band...they sings in english.
aguante sumooo
Sumo was formed for luca prodan..voice..guitar (..Roma..italy)..and stephannie nuttal ,drums..(manchester..england)..in 1981 in Cordoba..Argentine...
Sumo..(1981-1987)
grande band
Salut. Joy Division, je m'abonne direct! 🧷