Why There CAN'T Be A Rivalry Like Celtics/Lakers In TODAY's NBA | No Chill with Gilbert Arenas
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2021
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5x NBA Champion and member of the Showtime Lakers, Michael Cooper, joins Gilbert Arenas and they discuss the Boston Celtics & Los Angeles Lakers rivalry and if it's possible to have one in today's NBA. Watch “No Chill with Gilbert Arenas” every Monday night at 8pm ET / PT on fuboTV or stream it FREE at fubosportsnetwork.com
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It’s too much player movement to have rivalries these days
Luka vs Trae ?
Will Peter I’m hoping luca and Zion near the future
Player movement is part of the reason. Players are.too friendly with each other
The last sorta rivalry was the cavs v warriors. Then kd joined and changed the whole league
it was still cavs warriors while kd was there, 2017 Christmas game was the best rivalry matchup
That wasn’t a rivalry it was 1 sided 😂
cavs vs warriors pre KD wasn’t sorta a rivalry it WAS a rivalry the energy of the crowds and performances of players was top tier rivalry quality
@@user-vk4dj3dg6r It was 1-1 before KD joined
@@sanantoballa4834 first year Cavs were hurt the second year none of the games were close expect game 7 and the warriors were injured and draymond got suspended and once KD got there nobody in the league was gonna beat them unless somebody got hurt which happened 2019 IT WAS NOT A RIVALRY THEY MET 4 TIMES AND GSW WON 75% OF THE 4 MATCH UPS
Lol michael cooper “ he cute huh”
We like Mike 😂
The use of “Magic and Bird” is what Gilbert said.. can’t say one without the other.. they were both so great and formidable.. and were great friends and rivals
In actuality, Philadelphia was the “black team” in the NBA in the 80s.
Those Celtics vs 76ers games were way more intense than the Celtics vs Lakers ever were.
True. But Gilbert as usual is attempting to pose an a basketball scholar attempting to say something profound while sounding like a buffoon.
@@chitownmo lmao that’s a bit harsh. I think it’s a pretty apt observation if you actually listen to what the dude is saying.
No even in the magic doc they say it was blk vs yt
Only Agent Zero would have the balls to say that what he said.
i dont call it balls...more like BLACK privlige to be racist on TV. (towards whites )
We almost did though. Cleveland vs the Goliath warriors meeting every time in these finals when bron was on the east. Sure the teams weren’t close to being in the same level like the Boston and Lakers but as far long lasting rivalries I’d say that’s about as close as we’ve gotten to that
Yeah always wonder how great that rivalry woulda been if kd didn’t join and kyrie didn’t leave
One rivalry I would like to throw out there was the Heat v. Spurs Rivalry those two teams definitely went at it and created history.
Players make too much money to beef
That's no#1. Second is the environment and landscape is completely different than back then.
I’m sayin lmfaooo bruh wha we’re rich and we’re living the dream lmfao plz 😂😂😂💀
@@MarkClaytonII idk why they want niggas to beef so bad. I’m tryna watch basketball not a mf soap opera 😂
Gilbert talking about the fans not the teams, fans have to have somekind of rivalry as well as the players for it to be A TRUE RIVALRY
Gilbert the only dude who would be real enough to bring up the relevance of racism back then in NBA basketball
@Curly Que well it wasn’t really comparable Boston is still considered a very racist city
Boston racism vs LA racism are two different types of racism, in favor of boston.
I hate to break it to ya but from where I sit it seems like “racism” drops from some ppl’s mouths like rain on a winter day....
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@@irishgrl if you're tired of hearing it then that's a personal problem, but in the context of this convo it was relevant.
Boston’s racist ...then what was the 90s riots in La over.... just stupid to leave us out on the racist rap, Boston’s just a more bitter cold city, got to love our sun shine
The Cavs/Warriors was the closest type of rivalry of this new generation. It was the traditional team with big players going in the paint like LeBron, vs the new age style of play with smaller players like Curry. Damn shame the biggest troll of the NBA (KD) had to fuck it up
Lakers vs spurs was the next rivalry we had in the nba. Then laker vs kings
Gil was absolutely correct. The other two guys were trying to cover that up. It was true and it’s still true.
so I guess if its up to you it will always be
Ya cooper who played in the rivalry for 10 years knows less than Gilbert
Players jump ship to often for any rivalry to develop. One year players will be rivals, the next year teammates.
Everyone grew up playing together. So how can you have "Rivalries" in most sports?
Honestly the best white players are European there are no more American white basketball stars
Tyler hero, joe harris are stara
@@odeb8594 you posted that comment w/ a straight face ?
Yet Larry bird still the goat white player
@@bornalon3diealon349 facts
@@odeb8594 will they win a mvp bird has multiple mvps
When the Big 4 Celtics played the Heat that was a rivalry. How about LeBron’s Cavs vs Jokim Noah and D Rose Bulls. The Clippers with CP3 and Blake vs The Warriors. The Clippers right now vs The Lakers could be one.
I think they mean a rivalry of two teams that could meet in the finals and keep that history no matter who is on the team. There's always been solid in-conference rivals but not one with so much dominance and spectacle as the Celtics-Lakers rivalry. The closest thing I've seen to that was the Heat-Spurs rivalry but those teams didn't last long enough to keep it going.
Facts
An euro dominant team vs usa dominant team
Nba fans care about players not teams. It's curry vs bron or kd vs bron
LA vs BK means nothing
Coop is right they don't understand the significance of the jersey at all. They understand kobe but not the franchise history
Where as in MLB they the yankee jersey significance is appreciated. History is well known by players and fans. Ya we loved jersey but the pinstripe is more important
it's the nature of Bball who make that, there are more than 5 players on the field in football and baseball (I think) plus it's way older
Bron never wins enough for their to be a true rivalry. It’s either bron winning or all another team. And none of them are consistently winning. Heat win a few and then bron goes 2 years losing to the Spurs and warriors. Then the Spurs fall off and the warriors go crazy. Then bron wins one and never gets close again be gsw. The warriors falls off and the clippers are next up. But then the clippers don’t work the way they were supposed to and bron wins. It’s so all over the place that having a consistent war can’t really ever happen. Bron has never had a true back and forth to have built up a real rivalry. It was supposed to be kd, kawhi, or Kobe. All of them kind of fell through. It’s gonna be atleast another generation before we see another possible rivalry. And it will depend on who exactly the superstars are. These guys today aren’t intense enough for that type of war.
It’s lebron vs whoever make it lowkey
Why do they say it like it's a bad thing
Boston isn’t as racist as people say. It isn’t more racist than any city in the world
Lol Boston is the most racist city in the world, they didn't fully integrate school's until 1989 and they burned a cross outside my sister's high school in 1994.
@@mikejones9906 I live here bro. What are you talking about.
@@mikejones9906 and bro. That has happened country wide. It’s not exclusive to Boston. I’m terribly sorry for what happened to your sister but I have fam in South Carolina, Georgia who experienced similar things. As well as in nyc and Philly.
@@CoachMarcus92 How long have you lived in Boston
@@CoachMarcus92 You sound like the white man right now
I grew up in a predominately Italian Brooklyn neighborhood in the 80's. There was definitely more racism back then. Not just black and white either.
It’s not teams... it’s Lebron vs whoever
Yo, Bron vs GSW
FACTS
Im gonna call BS on that
It would have been cavs v warriors but kd mess it up now it is lebron vs everyone
KD didn’t mess anything up he just did a Lebron better than Lebron and that actually added to his rivalry with him.
@@adamfeliciano6321 So you saying KD actually made it more competitive by joining GS?
Y’all hate Bron so much it ridiculous😂
@@sanantoballa4834 Did Lebron make is more competitive when he went to Miami?
You on Bron so much it's ridiculous
@@adamfeliciano6321 right teamed up with a top 5 player wade and a top 10 player bosh and they were all in their prime ... people be trying to forget about that cause kd went to the warriors and it’s more like the warriors needed kd ... draymond was crying in the parking lot begging kd to come cus steph couldn’t close on the finals lol
There needs to be genuine dislike between teams......any and everyone is so buddy buddy in today's league...it takes away from the competition ....i dont watch NBA until conference championships start.
Dallas vs Atlanta the Mavs basically have a all white/light skin team and Trae is black in Atlanta they could push this stuff heavily
Actually Philly vs Bucks are the closest to that with Giannis vs Embiid
Not from Boston but they’re my team. Racism is everywhere but to say LA doesn’t have Racism is absurd
That is not what he said at all lol
The one bright thing about Boston being a racist town is that you've had black athletes come into that team and likely change some fans over time. There's only so many times a guy can help your team win before you start rooting for them. As good as those 80s Celtics were would they win a chip without Parish? I don't think so. They DEFINITELY wouldn't have won shit without Russell. There's still a lot of work to do but you can see the positive change if you look for it as hard as people do the negative.
You should read what happened to Bill Russell in Boston & how he felt about the fans.
First comment for the first time in my life
Hate to break it to you but....
Do you really consider that an accomplishment?
Y’all ever find it funny how “coincidentally” Boston Celtics record of “11 Championships” won’t ever be broken on the account that it was a White Team/ w/a White Coach?
Definitely will be broken Lakers are close
A white team that was centered around a black man who innovated the game. That’s was a bill Russell team that was just majority white. Not just a white team.
What you just said made no sense.
You mean in that time span yes teams aren’t as weak as they used to be
Bill Russell also was a player coach through those 11 championships. Do your research please
So outside of sports is Boston REALLY racist or no?? Wahlberg
Let me give you some perspective on how racist Boston is, they didn't fully integrate school's until 1989 and Jim Crow laws ended in 1965.
@@mikejones9906 wow so sad
If you ain't a Tom, it's a wrap for you.
@@mikejones9906 lol love that victim mentality. Let me guess you had it rough and have a “chip on your shoulder”
Same as everywhere else, not good at all but not as bad as it’s portrayed
Wow the white guy ruined it
Gilbert is a smart dude but when he talks too much he quickly becomes stupid
Top 5 idiotic things Gilbert has said this month:
1.Larry Bird wouldn't be successful on the Showtime Lakers if you replaced him with Magic Johnson.
2. Jalen Suggs isn't a top 3 pick
3. Transgenders should be allowed to play women's sports
4. Luka Doncic should take pointers from Emoni Bates
5. Nick Young is a top 5 offensive talent.
what he said was not as quickly. and he’s right it wouldn’t even be showtime if it was bird. magic played with a pace that was up and down
@@andrewshaw8080 Stop it. Bird would've killed with Jabar and Worthy
He didn’t say luka should take pointers from bates you twisted his words. His point was pro’s should watch what highschool kids are doing to prep for them and integrate the moves from the younger generation. That’s called scouting and young was that talented.
@@freddycalipari4242 No you should be taking pointers and stealing moves from the best players currently in the NBA, not some high school kid.
@@mikejones9906 you completely missed the point. All he said was that Luka should be aware of emoni and study his game so when gets to the league he can get a decent look at his tendencies. All the greats have done it you don't kobe was eyeing lebron in high school or lebron eyeing kd when he was in high school. Your fooling yourself superstar players will do everything they can to get ahead of the guys in front of them and the guys that are up next
Dallas and Atlanta!😂😂Luka vs Trae they could make it super toxic and racist