The only method I'm against when it comes to getting an Infernal cape is paying someone to get it for you. If you're getting it yourself, who the hell cares what equipment you're using? If you did it yourself, it's still legit.
That's the whole point of the game. Use everything available to you to beat content. If Jagex doesn't want you to use Justiciar, they can just increase the accuracy of the monsters so it shreds through Justiciar as well.
so many salty people with max gear elys and t bows hating on justiciar. Imo its harder with acb, no ely and justiciar than what it is with t bow and ely.
All I know is when I do the Inferno it's gonna be with Elite Void using an Ancient Staff/RcBow/TBP with Blessed Spirit Shield cuz I broke AF, but wanna prove the pt you can get the cape with the most welfare of setups/stats.
Your wrong, justi is always tanky and every hit does get damaged reduction, ely is less tanky. And you dont wield it because you need to wield blowpipe or t bow 95% of the time
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto The dmg reduction from justiciar is much less than what the ely shield provides alone. If you think getting infernal cape with a t bow and ely (max gear) is harder than acb and justiciar u should try both methods. I have tried both methods and as an owner of all items i can say that t bow and ely is much easier.
@@DrDreyy911 its not get your facts straight a crystal shield is rly close to elysian which you gonna wield if you dont have one, the shield got 30 damage reduction on 70%, if you compare this to a justi set with crystal shield + other items like pegasian etc which add up ely is less op for tanking you should inform yourself how justi works, i got all items and considering you always need to wield a weapon like bow and pipe in the inferno, justi is way tankier than ely, i get your point t bow is big and helps alot but its not tanky you still have to pray flick or stand in the right spots, justiar makes the inferno braindead, the idea behind learning the waves is to improve so you can easily kill the bosses, and repeat it easily, you spend alot of time inside there reachin zuk, regardless what setup, dont you wanna learn from it and actually be able to repeat it? If you learn the waves the right way, not bringing t bow is just a slower cape, however downgrading justiciar will make yourself clueless and youve got to learn the waves all over again, now imagaine trying a task run or a future ironman run without justi when the only expierience you had was brute forcing, ely can easily be replaced with dhins oder crystal shield whicj increases the defense accuary and damage reduction alot more i got all items and tested it myself trust me i know what im talking about, 45 inferno kc
Something you didn't mention in your video: not everyone lives close to a runescape server. In south america I have to constantly play at 140-200 ping, it does not get any better than that. How can I prayer flick with that ping? The best I can do is the "lazy" prayer flick, which is just enough with Justiciar, so I'm fine with that ;)
Everyone: "If you can't do Inferno without Justiciar then you don't deserve to play the game" Me: "What's a Justiciar?" As I'm sweating on my 3rd Jad attempt on my first and only account on Runescape
If you want just 1 cape justiciar is great. And from then if you want to learn it from there you can do it as a slayer task and have helm making it faster.
If you watch this video with subs on Bc you watch anime videos a lot... then you know this guy is really thankful to Jessica, just a car, and gesture card... for helping him along the way.
Bask when I was in high school I was doing fire cape run for friends... after years of being away from the game with a full time job, full time student, and preparing for my grad school exams I don’t have time to grind for hours and hours. So smd I’m gonna get a cheapscape! Maybe two
I used justi and not once has another player with inferno cape been able to tell lol, either way idgaf😂😂 ain’t got time to prayer flock every damn thing with 2 children running around my house
you uploaded this on my 28th birthday the day before my accident which left me in a wheel chair and disabled i am trying my hardest to get this cape but its getting the best of me i did jad but man you made my hopes go up pray i get the rng luck one day.
Lool. Tbh. We just woox'd the cape with Justiciar. He literally looks for the easiest ways to do things. Then makes them better. Using tank Armour in a mini game where tanking is your main priority. Or running and hiding till something useful Happens isn't always in the rng
OOOH i am honored Hai Yo and aaty watching this and commenting? It cant be a coincidence! Since I know the two of you are among the best to every play this game, I wont expect this video to ring a bell inside you but there are all sorts of different players out there still even today. Each player may walk a different path to achieve their cape. Anyway, as a player of the game I can confidently say, we all respect your contributions to the RuneScape community!
Lol I don't understand why people get so butthurt about how someone chooses to get their cape. It doesn't affect them, and who cares if they're not "getting better at the game". the level of prayer flicking in the inferno is pretty much useless everywhere else so who the hell cares. I don't find the inferno fun and I'm already 99 slayer so the whole "oh you'll need to know how to do it quickly for tasks" is irrelevant anyway.
I have infinite more respect that a person who obtains their Infernal Cape legitimately, even if they use Justiciar armor. It's beats paying a caper for it. You'll still learn a shit ton about how the game works/how Inferno works regardless of what armor set you use.
how is this even a debate? why not use the best gear possible for a certain task especially the Inferno. is using someone else's gilded altar for prayer training cheese too then because you didn't train construction and got one yourself? what about all of these, are these things cheese: - using alternate accounts for mm2 caves barrage luring - using alternate accounts to make money while doing different stuff - leeching a Torso - marking tiles with a 3rd party client - buying bonds to make money - using quest guides - using a tbow at Inferno the examples are endless honestly and i bet you guys can come up with 20 more in no time
So who said this is the best possibly gear, why no one mentioned or recommended justiar in a guide before, there are alot good inferno guides out there, and yes tank armour could have some uses, but using full justi is def the wrong way to go, you get your cape slower, didnt learn anything and your limited to the justi + max gear + hoping for rng, there are people who build ironmans etc if your using a tbow + ely you still learn thr concept of the inferno assuming you bring dps gear than its doable to downgrade such items even if it makes a bif difference, but the tank method without justi wont work probarnly same as justi doesnt work always, learn the waves properly you dont have to be perfect to get to zuk and you get the cape Overall faster + it will feel way better at the end because you know you didnt limit yourself for 1 specific gear
Anybody that complains has too much of their identity wrapped up in nerdscape and wants to feel like one of the only "elite" to have it so they can feel better about themselves.
People be shaming ppl for using in-game resources. A "Justiciar cape" imo is better than a "paid for" cape. Using justiciar makes you a resourceful player. Why make the game harder for yourself just for a little cape bonus lol
I mean if u are hellbent on using justicar you may as well, but learning to 2-tick flick makes justicar completely useless, and it takes like 1 hour to learn 2 tick flick or 5 minutes if using runelite metronome. If you aren't going to learn almost any flicks then yeah justi can get you cape but it will take ages because your zuks will take 5 hours instead of 2, and lowering your number of attempts just to triple the time of each attempt is not going to help you get a cape any quicker. Anybody can get the cape without justiciar if they only practised the important flicks and basic solve methods, people just have misconceptions on how to learn the inferno
Attempts took me 2.5hrs not 5. Also in addition to that, 2 tick flicking isnt always going to protect you from ranger/mager minions if they are on the same tick, or 1 tick apart. Being able to flick while trying to dps,run, and think is much harder than what you are describing.
I only want an excuse to use the armour set, of all raid armours justiciar is the mos underwhelming because it has almost no uses outside of learning hard content
You forgot to mention that learning to off-tick and flick monsters makes you better and helps you with triple Jads. For example, I died a lot on the waves up to triples, but got through them on my second try, where it took you 10 tries. That's also a point.
x3 jads are just one jad thats fast. Its not really the same as knowing how to do all the crazy flicking while running since you only have to focus on one task in x3 jads. Also the only way to get better at x3 jads is to experience it. In my experience, I only got to experience x3 jads because i used justicar to get there.
@@n00bescape Sure. I still see good reasons to use justiciar, if you have tbow, max stats and just want the cape and be done with it. But that time going through the waves, just to die at Jads, can be saved by learning things that carry over to Jads and Zuk, especially if you do acb cape.
I like your points, like I’m a pker I don’t care much about pvm but I need a cape and justicar makes it a lot easier ( I haven’t gotten a cape yet but made it to Zulu before )
Respect for this video haha. I am starting up learning again I was getting stuck on mid 50s when I tried before without justicar but I gave up. I am going to try again this time with it.
Good Luck!!! I have a video coming out in a few hours announcing that if you upload you attempt to your youtube, I will look at it and review it for a coaching series im doing to get everyone better!!!
I’m sorry but I can’t take shit from someone who’s gonna shit on me for using armor but they’re going to use a super mega ultra bow that hits well over the OP threshold on basically anything in the game. So, lol. Do a backflip?
This justicar thing is stupid. It's so much easier to learn from your mistakes when it dosn't kill you. dying on early waves over and over is so discouraging.
Isn't Justiciar the same situation as ganodermic armor back in the day of Pre-EOC with fight caves? Ganodermic had high "absorption" back in the day and you didn't have to pray flick on jad, just use range pray to get the fire cape back then. I guess it's in a way a "cheese way" to get a cape, but who cares how people get the cape. Hell, most folks friggin buy the cape anyways lol
There's actually people complaining about the use of Justicar? Imagine being this much of a weeb. Getting asshurt because people use good gear to give themselves an advantage. (Screams "fat guy from the South Park WoW episode" if you ask me.) I'm assuming all of these elitists also got their fire capes on a level 3 account with tick eating? Getting high range and prayer is CheeseScape.
I think the reason so many people are upset is because it devalues the "skilled" factor of infernal capes, so now when people see them its not really a big deal, whereas before justi was out it was a huge accomplishment (to most).
But its not actually good gear for the inferno THERE ARE ALOT OTHER INFERNO GUIDES BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEIR STUFF WHY DO YOU THINK LITTERARLY NO ONE RECOMMENDS IT, its a waste as gear switch, and if you use as main mage gear or something you might need less attempts but they will take 2x or 3x times that long, healing up ages every wave, not noticing if you prayed right or wrong because justi coverd 1 hit for example
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto No shit it's way slower. But not everyone that plays RuneScape is an expert prayer flicker. And yeah you can tank out a lot of damage with it. I've had the ranger hit 0s on me 5 or more times in a row pretty often. If it didn't work and didn't make it easier, the nerds wouldn't be raging about it.
@@theclutchchannel9319 you learn and practise everything meanwhile doing the inferno, you gonna spend hours there regardless, gues what a def 1 pure also tanked a jad hit a few times or sometimes people tank 3 zuk hits, dont relay on rng it can work, but it wont always, justi is not recommended overall if you wanna use and it works for you fine but its def not the best possible gear for inferno, there is a reason a learner brings a tank heln tank ring and tank shield rest is dps, because thats emough to learn and practise it without hoping justi carrys you, i belive you often get hit 0s forsure but you still get hit and there are lot waves where you need to tank on... justi isnt best in slot it has some uses but alot of disavantages you cant compare it with a t bow who no one will doubt its best in slot thats 2 different things mate and only because people are to scared to try pray alternate they see it as last resort, meanwhile if you learn it you probarbly get it faster if you calc time spend inside inferno not attempts + alot of other advantages you get on possible future capes if you dont limit yourself to justi
@@theclutchchannel9319 no one was perfect when they started this grind, and im pretty positive every non justi user had lass triple jad/zuk attempts than justi user, the waves are a decent practise for the final bosses meanwhile bringing justi is allone mentaliy wise the wrong thing your going inside with the idea im not good enough for the waves and hop for trusty justy, think about it... everyone is capable were all human, the only thing which is in your way is your mindset, in 110% positive you were nervous as fuck at every zuk huh
i think its extremely childish that grown ass men or young adults are actually complaining about the way you achieved the infernal cape. How about this: with of without justiciar, the inferno remains extremely difficult.+its none of your damn business how someone achieved the cape if its fair anyway
@Reformed at the end of the day it's your account and play how you want if you want to play the easiest way possible that's on you if you wanna make your life a nightmare that's on you but as long as u enjoyed it's that's all that matters.
ironic you went to the trouble to google definitions and put them in the video to substantiate your claims but still pronounce "justiciar" incorrectly*
sub'd 4 guide and yeah people have this dumb mentality of "dps and die so you can learn". you cant learn by making yourself die as fast as possible. tank gear is for learners until you get comfortable. rs3 has this same issue where tank armor is seen as noob when it isnt a big deal and its great for people learning or if your team is bad and you need to tank for a long time for examples. its likely other games as well. omg. i love what you say though. i love how you are just saying that its for the people who just want to get thier 1st cape, and potentially even just get the inferno done so they can boost their confidence to do it better later perhaps for a pet? And how you point out you don't need to do all these god ticks god manipulate bull crap. it's a fucking game. like jesus christ these people act like its been their career for like 20 years or something and if something happens that they don't like their life is over. people need to learn to just have more fun with games, accomplish goals you want to accomplish how you want to accomplish them. you dont need to follow other peoples footsteps. also, thoughts on dihns bullwark? it'd prob be good after barraging no?
still not got myself a twisted bow (i could but idk if i should do a rebuild), and the inferno seems so daunting. thanks for making this, makes me want to try it more
HEY aaty! Since your one of the most skilled players to play RuneScape, I dont expect you to have a N00bs eye view of the inferno such as myself. I do say "you can argue that this gap may not be as large, but you still can not deny that skill gap is still there which lowers the amount of attempts when using justicar". The charts are made off of estimates and assumptions which I say as part of the video and I never claim these to be concrete "statistics". The charts are used as a visual aid to represent the idea that if a low skilled player can lower the skill requirement to get to x3 jad, they will get the cape faster. I back this up later with my experience of how I got to x3 jad on my first attempt with Justicar. While these estimates may not be accurate for amazing players like you, it did work for a less skilled player like me and may work for others who play the game and are similar to me. Anyway, since I can without a doubt say your the most amazing person I have ever raided with, Ill also say we all appreciate the contributes you've made to the RuneScape community. By making this video im trying to bring light on that justicar is a good option for some players who may be less skilled but excell at a different play style. Anyway, until we meet again friend :)
@@n00bescape its not always abput the amount of attempts using the justi setup with furry in stuff + sgs just slows down your attempts in generall you get rusty with your in game skill and believe it or not you will fail way more often at last bosses + need alot more time to try to get to zuk again, your setup is not recommended by alooooooooot of players for areason, if it works for you fine GL but that doesnt mean it works for everyone and its still a trash choice, use your head learn pray alternates in the early waves and you get the cape faster learning the inferno no doubt about it + the justi tank method is rng and hoping which doesnt always work, you litterarly cant downgrade from justi + bow prob however if you learned it your good to go to get on a future ironman for example, its all about the mentaliy, if you stick your mind to it, you could do everything, if your think your not good enough you basicly already given up before you started this grind, no one was perfect at the beginning, but you learn and practise everything inside the inferno
this video is just you trying to justify your lack of skill. its fine, you used justy and you rep an inferno cape in game like you're conventionally skilled. you use bummers when you bowl, you get nervous when you have to order a pizza over the phone cause you have social anxiety. you dont take on difficult tasks head on, you wait till it is made easier. try uber eats, they just drop off the food, no need to talk to anyone.
Justiciar is bad, because you need the practise of the waves so you can easily finish the Bosses, the rewards feels alot better, you know you can easily do tasks in future, and on possible future accounts like pk builds or ironmans, the inferno is endgame content it motivates you to do your best, it was meant to be as challenge, its fun you ruin yourself the experience the feeling to get it "the right way" and knowing you didnt had to relay on op tank gear + a def lvl required for the future is the best feeling after you got it done, maybe you feel like now you dont care but in future you might overthink this, and only because you passed 5 times in justi running south/north teaching triples doesnt mean anything i mean ofc the odds are maybe in your favour but its still risky, you can still easily get stacked meanwhile the right way isnt even that hard to learn, and its more gurante cause pray means a 0 hit everytime, tanking does not, this game is all rng, yes you survived 5 times ez with justiciar but lemme tell you some people also tank 3 zuk hits in 1 run even tho, 1 zuk hit is above 50% to die on max hp (115) , i understand that your happy and gratefull to justiar but imo its not a good idea to recommend it, in long term you gonna regreet it, inferno is endgame content, dont ruin your experience from it, one day even you will return, possibily on a iron account what if you never get justi armour on your iron, will you wait ages? The solutions how you treated some of these spawns showed me you didnt even try to learn it, all you needed to do is find a good spot and blob flick, why didnt you try that out, you speaking of using your brain as Advantage even tho justiciar is making the inferno braindead... everyone should play bei their own style what thinks works best for everyone but brute forcing isnt a good Recommendation after all, you must realise you tried justiar after your first attempts so you figoured some things out before and justiar runs in generall mean they take way longer than usuall ones, the rng part is also about spawns where justi wont help because blobs wont get stuck, not only the damage Factor there is alot to think about it if you go in detail, you showed clips where justi helped you run south i bet a bcp or full arma + shield would be enough as long as you dont run ages to that pillar and you could still learn something from it your spending alot of time in that cave regarless if your using justi or not dont you wanna learn something from it, you ruin yourself the experience and close youself in that Limited position where you only can do it on a def 80 Account with full justiar
You could've saved yourself and not typed any of this. Work smarter, not harder. If a resource is available to you, you use it. Move on with your life and stop taking the game so serious.
@@stmore1725 your wrong in one thing, justiciar isnt working smarter, it has alot of disavantages, thats why the usuall method is all around better. But im prob talking to someone who hasnt even tried to get a cape, yh your right i shouldnt have comment...
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto Are you slow brother? 10,000 times smarter, people that don't understand how to get an inferno cape can take a million extra hits without punishment. Hence you get the cape easier. You're talking to someone who isn't brain dead. I hate to be the grammar police, but considering we're talking about smarts....it's *you're*. The proper method is better for people who clearly know what they're doing in fight caves and can avoid taking the damage a first timer would.
@@stmore1725 you need to get hit, to realise what you did wrong, wrong timing/bad decision based of spawn justi covers most of the mistakes. Its worse, why xzact/adwaam/hai yo litterarly everyone not recommend justiciar, are they all slow, i hardly belive its just because of "eltism"
Join our new Discord Server! discord.gg/2Eu9Qfv
I could use some help...
The only method I'm against when it comes to getting an Infernal cape is paying someone to get it for you.
If you're getting it yourself, who the hell cares what equipment you're using?
If you did it yourself, it's still legit.
I love this comment, so true, like it does not matter as long as you didn't pay someone to get it for you.
Elitest virgin hillbillies care
That's the whole point of the game. Use everything available to you to beat content. If Jagex doesn't want you to use Justiciar, they can just increase the accuracy of the monsters so it shreds through Justiciar as well.
so many salty people with max gear elys and t bows hating on justiciar. Imo its harder with acb, no ely and justiciar than what it is with t bow and ely.
Thats also a pretty good argument haha
All I know is when I do the Inferno it's gonna be with Elite Void using an Ancient Staff/RcBow/TBP with Blessed Spirit Shield cuz I broke AF, but wanna prove the pt you can get the cape with the most welfare of setups/stats.
Your wrong, justi is always tanky and every hit does get damaged reduction, ely is less tanky. And you dont wield it because you need to wield blowpipe or t bow 95% of the time
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto The dmg reduction from justiciar is much less than what the ely shield provides alone. If you think getting infernal cape with a t bow and ely (max gear) is harder than acb and justiciar u should try both methods. I have tried both methods and as an owner of all items i can say that t bow and ely is much easier.
@@DrDreyy911 its not get your facts straight a crystal shield is rly close to elysian which you gonna wield if you dont have one, the shield got 30 damage reduction on 70%, if you compare this to a justi set with crystal shield + other items like pegasian etc which add up ely is less op for tanking you should inform yourself how justi works, i got all items and considering you always need to wield a weapon like bow and pipe in the inferno, justi is way tankier than ely, i get your point t bow is big and helps alot but its not tanky you still have to pray flick or stand in the right spots, justiar makes the inferno braindead, the idea behind learning the waves is to improve so you can easily kill the bosses, and repeat it easily, you spend alot of time inside there reachin zuk, regardless what setup, dont you wanna learn from it and actually be able to repeat it? If you learn the waves the right way, not bringing t bow is just a slower cape, however downgrading justiciar will make yourself clueless and youve got to learn the waves all over again, now imagaine trying a task run or a future ironman run without justi when the only expierience you had was brute forcing, ely can easily be replaced with dhins oder crystal shield whicj increases the defense accuary and damage reduction alot more i got all items and tested it myself trust me i know what im talking about, 45 inferno kc
Something you didn't mention in your video: not everyone lives close to a runescape server. In south america I have to constantly play at 140-200 ping, it does not get any better than that. How can I prayer flick with that ping? The best I can do is the "lazy" prayer flick, which is just enough with Justiciar, so I'm fine with that ;)
I've tried helping somebody from brazil before and he has the same exact problem as you which is certainly a challenge!!!
Everyone: "If you can't do Inferno without Justiciar then you don't deserve to play the game"
Me: "What's a Justiciar?" As I'm sweating on my 3rd Jad attempt on my first and only account on Runescape
this actually made me laugh thanks!! haha
This is me and I don't like it.
If justi made it “too” easy there wouldn’t be an under ground market of buying capes
If you want just 1 cape justiciar is great. And from then if you want to learn it from there you can do it as a slayer task and have helm making it faster.
FACTS
@@n00bescape sad to see how negatively elitism affects the game
If you watch this video with subs on Bc you watch anime videos a lot... then you know this guy is really thankful to Jessica, just a car, and gesture card... for helping him along the way.
10/10
Bask when I was in high school I was doing fire cape run for friends... after years of being away from the game with a full time job, full time student, and preparing for my grad school exams I don’t have time to grind for hours and hours. So smd I’m gonna get a cheapscape! Maybe two
HELL YEEE!!!!
I used justi and not once has another player with inferno cape been able to tell lol, either way idgaf😂😂 ain’t got time to prayer flock every damn thing with 2 children running around my house
Preach
The people that get tilted about justi inferno capes need to touch grass
you uploaded this on my 28th birthday the day before my accident which left me in a wheel chair and disabled i am trying my hardest to get this cape but its getting the best of me i did jad but man you made my hopes go up pray i get the rng luck one day.
God bless brotha
How'd it go? Hope all is well :)
Lool. Tbh. We just woox'd the cape with Justiciar. He literally looks for the easiest ways to do things. Then makes them better. Using tank Armour in a mini game where tanking is your main priority. Or running and hiding till something useful Happens isn't always in the rng
relying on tanking is 100% rng
@@Swarm_ that is legit the same logic as saying "relying on dps is relying on rng" so therefore every cape is rng cape. Who gives a fuck.
@@eebrohim7001 But i never said to rely on rng, you should rely on safespotting and basic blob flicking to survive basically everything
Good video. Who cares what you use, if you can get the cape it's all you need
we live in a post 420streamer cape society, there are no more debates
OOOH i am honored Hai Yo and aaty watching this and commenting? It cant be a coincidence! Since I know the two of you are among the best to every play this game, I wont expect this video to ring a bell inside you but there are all sorts of different players out there still even today. Each player may walk a different path to achieve their cape. Anyway, as a player of the game I can confidently say, we all respect your contributions to the RuneScape community!
Lol I don't understand why people get so butthurt about how someone chooses to get their cape. It doesn't affect them, and who cares if they're not "getting better at the game". the level of prayer flicking in the inferno is pretty much useless everywhere else so who the hell cares. I don't find the inferno fun and I'm already 99 slayer so the whole "oh you'll need to know how to do it quickly for tasks" is irrelevant anyway.
They just wanna feel special
I have infinite more respect that a person who obtains their Infernal Cape legitimately, even if they use Justiciar armor. It's beats paying a caper for it. You'll still learn a shit ton about how the game works/how Inferno works regardless of what armor set you use.
how is this even a debate?
why not use the best gear possible for a certain task especially the Inferno.
is using someone else's gilded altar for prayer training cheese too then because you didn't train construction and got one yourself?
what about all of these, are these things cheese:
- using alternate accounts for mm2 caves barrage luring
- using alternate accounts to make money while doing different stuff
- leeching a Torso
- marking tiles with a 3rd party client
- buying bonds to make money
- using quest guides
- using a tbow at Inferno
the examples are endless honestly and i bet you guys can come up with 20 more in no time
Oo is getting a fire cape above level 3 combat not an accomplishment?
Smh if you don't do Inferno in monk robes and a water staff you're fucking shit, cheese cape. xdxdxd ~
So who said this is the best possibly gear, why no one mentioned or recommended justiar in a guide before, there are alot good inferno guides out there, and yes tank armour could have some uses, but using full justi is def the wrong way to go, you get your cape slower, didnt learn anything and your limited to the justi + max gear + hoping for rng, there are people who build ironmans etc if your using a tbow + ely you still learn thr concept of the inferno assuming you bring dps gear than its doable to downgrade such items even if it makes a bif difference, but the tank method without justi wont work probarnly same as justi doesnt work always, learn the waves properly you dont have to be perfect to get to zuk and you get the cape Overall faster + it will feel way better at the end because you know you didnt limit yourself for 1 specific gear
did you just make up numbers for the sake of example then start analysing them as if they had any meaning? tf
Anybody that complains has too much of their identity wrapped up in nerdscape and wants to feel like one of the only "elite" to have it so they can feel better about themselves.
cant agree with you any more!!
Yup. Just a bunch of G.E. standers waiting on someone to say something, so they can bring up their dumb cape that isn’t as iconic as the firecape.
@@duck5336 honestly the most iconic cape in my opinion is the obby cape
waves are cake now with justi + blood fury + bulwark
I dont even bring barrages I just bulwark spec & I get to triples every time
That would mean waiting for spec every wave to get the nibblers
People be shaming ppl for using in-game resources. A "Justiciar cape" imo is better than a "paid for" cape. Using justiciar makes you a resourceful player. Why make the game harder for yourself just for a little cape bonus lol
cuz stonks?
I think that I decided to bring Justiciar with me to inferno
great vid... but its pronounced JUST*ISH*YEE* ERR i mean where is the char or kar sound coming from?
English is a strange language. Take for instance my favorite words colonel, indict, and queue,
@@n00bescape lol stilllll
I mean if u are hellbent on using justicar you may as well, but learning to 2-tick flick makes justicar completely useless, and it takes like 1 hour to learn 2 tick flick or 5 minutes if using runelite metronome. If you aren't going to learn almost any flicks then yeah justi can get you cape but it will take ages because your zuks will take 5 hours instead of 2, and lowering your number of attempts just to triple the time of each attempt is not going to help you get a cape any quicker. Anybody can get the cape without justiciar if they only practised the important flicks and basic solve methods, people just have misconceptions on how to learn the inferno
Attempts took me 2.5hrs not 5. Also in addition to that, 2 tick flicking isnt always going to protect you from ranger/mager minions if they are on the same tick, or 1 tick apart. Being able to flick while trying to dps,run, and think is much harder than what you are describing.
I only want an excuse to use the armour set, of all raid armours justiciar is the mos underwhelming because it has almost no uses outside of learning hard content
You forgot to mention that learning to off-tick and flick monsters makes you better and helps you with triple Jads. For example, I died a lot on the waves up to triples, but got through them on my second try, where it took you 10 tries. That's also a point.
x3 jads are just one jad thats fast. Its not really the same as knowing how to do all the crazy flicking while running since you only have to focus on one task in x3 jads. Also the only way to get better at x3 jads is to experience it. In my experience, I only got to experience x3 jads because i used justicar to get there.
@@n00bescape Sure. I still see good reasons to use justiciar, if you have tbow, max stats and just want the cape and be done with it. But that time going through the waves, just to die at Jads, can be saved by learning things that carry over to Jads and Zuk, especially if you do acb cape.
@@n00bescape Oh also, justiciar can help you tank the ranger at Zuk. That's very helpful
@@dragan176 taking the ranger in zuk is amazing, but other than that justicar wont help past the first jad wave haha
I like your points, like I’m a pker I don’t care much about pvm but I need a cape and justicar makes it a lot easier ( I haven’t gotten a cape yet but made it to Zulu before )
Play smarter, not harder boys.
As an ironman i could gaf what you think about what i use
im currently trying to get the cape with a dcross bow im getting to zuk but its takes ages to deal any damage at all
Respect for this video haha. I am starting up learning again I was getting stuck on mid 50s when I tried before without justicar but I gave up. I am going to try again this time with it.
Good Luck!!! I have a video coming out in a few hours announcing that if you upload you attempt to your youtube, I will look at it and review it for a coaching series im doing to get everyone better!!!
I’m sorry but I can’t take shit from someone who’s gonna shit on me for using armor but they’re going to use a super mega ultra bow that hits well over the OP threshold on basically anything in the game. So, lol. Do a backflip?
using justi to help you get further down the waves also helps with motivation! science alert! psychologically beneficial
Tbh who cares if you get a helping hand with justicer you still gotta have a good understanding of the waves in general and zuk you can't cheese Zuk
Zuk is the easy part tho. no prayer flicking
I'm from Indonesia man, justiciar is needed.. impossible to flick above wave 40 with my ping
"Why justiciar AND elysian makes inferno easy mode"
Could really do without the music.
Justiciar + dinh's bulwark + pray mage + wait for all sgs specs makes the inferno waves BRAIN DEAD easy
EZ clap
dont know how this popped up and noticed its cool concept and all but please stop saying just a car, its justiciar
I love this video.
This justicar thing is stupid. It's so much easier to learn from your mistakes when it dosn't kill you. dying on early waves over and over is so discouraging.
Isn't Justiciar the same situation as ganodermic armor back in the day of Pre-EOC with fight caves? Ganodermic had high "absorption" back in the day and you didn't have to pray flick on jad, just use range pray to get the fire cape back then. I guess it's in a way a "cheese way" to get a cape, but who cares how people get the cape. Hell, most folks friggin buy the cape anyways lol
Not “most”, they get detected and *banned* by Jagex, fortunately.
I remember doing the quest to get the obsidian armour in rs2 to be able to get the fight kiln cape that shit was worth made it so much easier
There's actually people complaining about the use of Justicar? Imagine being this much of a weeb. Getting asshurt because people use good gear to give themselves an advantage. (Screams "fat guy from the South Park WoW episode" if you ask me.)
I'm assuming all of these elitists also got their fire capes on a level 3 account with tick eating? Getting high range and prayer is CheeseScape.
I think the reason so many people are upset is because it devalues the "skilled" factor of infernal capes, so now when people see them its not really a big deal, whereas before justi was out it was a huge accomplishment (to most).
But its not actually good gear for the inferno THERE ARE ALOT OTHER INFERNO GUIDES BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEIR STUFF WHY DO YOU THINK LITTERARLY NO ONE RECOMMENDS IT, its a waste as gear switch, and if you use as main mage gear or something you might need less attempts but they will take 2x or 3x times that long, healing up ages every wave, not noticing if you prayed right or wrong because justi coverd 1 hit for example
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto No shit it's way slower. But not everyone that plays RuneScape is an expert prayer flicker. And yeah you can tank out a lot of damage with it. I've had the ranger hit 0s on me 5 or more times in a row pretty often.
If it didn't work and didn't make it easier, the nerds wouldn't be raging about it.
@@theclutchchannel9319 you learn and practise everything meanwhile doing the inferno, you gonna spend hours there regardless, gues what a def 1 pure also tanked a jad hit a few times or sometimes people tank 3 zuk hits, dont relay on rng it can work, but it wont always, justi is not recommended overall if you wanna use and it works for you fine but its def not the best possible gear for inferno, there is a reason a learner brings a tank heln tank ring and tank shield rest is dps, because thats emough to learn and practise it without hoping justi carrys you, i belive you often get hit 0s forsure but you still get hit and there are lot waves where you need to tank on... justi isnt best in slot it has some uses but alot of disavantages you cant compare it with a t bow who no one will doubt its best in slot thats 2 different things mate and only because people are to scared to try pray alternate they see it as last resort, meanwhile if you learn it you probarbly get it faster if you calc time spend inside inferno not attempts + alot of other advantages you get on possible future capes if you dont limit yourself to justi
@@theclutchchannel9319 no one was perfect when they started this grind, and im pretty positive every non justi user had lass triple jad/zuk attempts than justi user, the waves are a decent practise for the final bosses meanwhile bringing justi is allone mentaliy wise the wrong thing your going inside with the idea im not good enough for the waves and hop for trusty justy, think about it... everyone is capable were all human, the only thing which is in your way is your mindset, in 110% positive you were nervous as fuck at every zuk huh
i think its extremely childish that grown ass men or young adults are actually complaining about the way you achieved the infernal cape. How about this: with of without justiciar, the inferno remains extremely difficult.+its none of your damn business how someone achieved the cape if its fair anyway
@Reformed at the end of the day it's your account and play how you want if you want to play the easiest way possible that's on you if you wanna make your life a nightmare that's on you but as long as u enjoyed it's that's all that matters.
Just e car
It's justiciar (jus-tissy-ar), not justicar.
Straight facts
i died when the "graph" came up lol. have a comment for the algorithm
trusty justy
I feel like I heard the same 5 things about 3000 times each in 9 minutes...? Wut.
just a car
Jus-tish-e-er
Good video. :)
ironic you went to the trouble to google definitions and put them in the video to substantiate your claims but still pronounce "justiciar" incorrectly*
hmmmm. sounds like this n00bescape guy is part of a conspiracy
Im pretty sure its justiCIAR not justiCAR. like justice-iar. just so you call it right
oh believe me you are completely right! I just like calling it justiCAR :)
JUSTI SURE
justiciar not justicar
Robert virgin
Yustishuur
@@nemoo9257 hi virgin, I'm Robert
Robert your sad
@@nemoo9257 You're
what's the build tho?
ruclips.net/video/E9WuneWo01g/видео.html this is a link to my guide where i go over the build and strategy!
This is big facts
Re record the video and say justiciar instead of justicar ffs
sub'd 4 guide
and yeah people have this dumb mentality of "dps and die so you can learn". you cant learn by making yourself die as fast as possible. tank gear is for learners until you get comfortable.
rs3 has this same issue where tank armor is seen as noob when it isnt a big deal and its great for people learning or if your team is bad and you need to tank for a long time for examples. its likely other games as well.
omg. i love what you say though. i love how you are just saying that its for the people who just want to get thier 1st cape, and potentially even just get the inferno done so they can boost their confidence to do it better later perhaps for a pet? And how you point out you don't need to do all these god ticks god manipulate bull crap. it's a fucking game. like jesus christ these people act like its been their career for like 20 years or something and if something happens that they don't like their life is over.
people need to learn to just have more fun with games, accomplish goals you want to accomplish how you want to accomplish them. you dont need to follow other peoples footsteps.
also, thoughts on dihns bullwark? it'd prob be good after barraging no?
never thought id agree with xj9 on something, but here we are
still not got myself a twisted bow (i could but idk if i should do a rebuild), and the inferno seems so daunting. thanks for making this, makes me want to try it more
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!! although the tbow makes it easier, you can do it with an ACB. Let me know when you get that cape!
@@n00bescape might be a while, i'm still grinding out corrupted gauntlet for the pet, but i'll try to get some attempts in sooner rather than later
Runescape is the game were half the people that talk shit didnt even do it themselves.
umm this is just lying with statistics, false statistics for the record
HEY aaty! Since your one of the most skilled players to play RuneScape, I dont expect you to have a N00bs eye view of the inferno such as myself. I do say "you can argue that this gap may not be as large, but you still can not deny that skill gap is still there which lowers the amount of attempts when using justicar". The charts are made off of estimates and assumptions which I say as part of the video and I never claim these to be concrete "statistics". The charts are used as a visual aid to represent the idea that if a low skilled player can lower the skill requirement to get to x3 jad, they will get the cape faster. I back this up later with my experience of how I got to x3 jad on my first attempt with Justicar. While these estimates may not be accurate for amazing players like you, it did work for a less skilled player like me and may work for others who play the game and are similar to me. Anyway, since I can without a doubt say your the most amazing person I have ever raided with, Ill also say we all appreciate the contributes you've made to the RuneScape community. By making this video im trying to bring light on that justicar is a good option for some players who may be less skilled but excell at a different play style. Anyway, until we meet again friend :)
@@n00bescape its not always abput the amount of attempts using the justi setup with furry in stuff + sgs just slows down your attempts in generall you get rusty with your in game skill and believe it or not you will fail way more often at last bosses + need alot more time to try to get to zuk again, your setup is not recommended by alooooooooot of players for areason, if it works for you fine GL but that doesnt mean it works for everyone and its still a trash choice, use your head learn pray alternates in the early waves and you get the cape faster learning the inferno no doubt about it + the justi tank method is rng and hoping which doesnt always work, you litterarly cant downgrade from justi + bow prob however if you learned it your good to go to get on a future ironman for example, its all about the mentaliy, if you stick your mind to it, you could do everything, if your think your not good enough you basicly already given up before you started this grind, no one was perfect at the beginning, but you learn and practise everything inside the inferno
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto shut up idiot
@@gytisgytis5547 kekw
Dude this music background is just super noise man
.... It's just annoying
Im sorry for you that you don't like good music. Have fun listening to country music
JUSTICAR 😆 bruh
Just so you know dude it's pronounced Justisheer
ITS JUSTI-SHEER
Your intro music is annoying af why would you put it 10x loud as you talking cmonn bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this video is just you trying to justify your lack of skill. its fine, you used justy and you rep an inferno cape in game like you're conventionally skilled. you use bummers when you bowl, you get nervous when you have to order a pizza over the phone cause you have social anxiety. you dont take on difficult tasks head on, you wait till it is made easier. try uber eats, they just drop off the food, no need to talk to anyone.
Justiciars is for men.
Not everyone wants to learn inferno, some people just want the cape for the BIS.
Justiciar is bad, because you need the practise of the waves so you can easily finish the Bosses, the rewards feels alot better, you know you can easily do tasks in future, and on possible future accounts like pk builds or ironmans, the inferno is endgame content it motivates you to do your best, it was meant to be as challenge, its fun you ruin yourself the experience the feeling to get it "the right way" and knowing you didnt had to relay on op tank gear + a def lvl required for the future is the best feeling after you got it done, maybe you feel like now you dont care but in future you might overthink this, and only because you passed 5 times in justi running south/north teaching triples doesnt mean anything i mean ofc the odds are maybe in your favour but its still risky, you can still easily get stacked meanwhile the right way isnt even that hard to learn, and its more gurante cause pray means a 0 hit everytime, tanking does not, this game is all rng, yes you survived 5 times ez with justiciar but lemme tell you some people also tank 3 zuk hits in 1 run even tho, 1 zuk hit is above 50% to die on max hp (115) , i understand that your happy and gratefull to justiar but imo its not a good idea to recommend it, in long term you gonna regreet it, inferno is endgame content, dont ruin your experience from it, one day even you will return, possibily on a iron account what if you never get justi armour on your iron, will you wait ages? The solutions how you treated some of these spawns showed me you didnt even try to learn it, all you needed to do is find a good spot and blob flick, why didnt you try that out, you speaking of using your brain as Advantage even tho justiciar is making the inferno braindead... everyone should play bei their own style what thinks works best for everyone but brute forcing isnt a good Recommendation after all, you must realise you tried justiar after your first attempts so you figoured some things out before and justiar runs in generall mean they take way longer than usuall ones, the rng part is also about spawns where justi wont help because blobs wont get stuck, not only the damage Factor there is alot to think about it if you go in detail, you showed clips where justi helped you run south i bet a bcp or full arma + shield would be enough as long as you dont run ages to that pillar and you could still learn something from it your spending alot of time in that cave regarless if your using justi or not dont you wanna learn something from it, you ruin yourself the experience and close youself in that Limited position where you only can do it on a def 80 Account with full justiar
You could've saved yourself and not typed any of this. Work smarter, not harder. If a resource is available to you, you use it. Move on with your life and stop taking the game so serious.
@@stmore1725 your wrong in one thing, justiciar isnt working smarter, it has alot of disavantages, thats why the usuall method is all around better. But im prob talking to someone who hasnt even tried to get a cape, yh your right i shouldnt have comment...
@@Guck.nicht.duOtto Are you slow brother? 10,000 times smarter, people that don't understand how to get an inferno cape can take a million extra hits without punishment. Hence you get the cape easier. You're talking to someone who isn't brain dead. I hate to be the grammar police, but considering we're talking about smarts....it's *you're*. The proper method is better for people who clearly know what they're doing in fight caves and can avoid taking the damage a first timer would.
Thinking before you type always helps
@@stmore1725 you need to get hit, to realise what you did wrong, wrong timing/bad decision based of spawn justi covers most of the mistakes. Its worse, why xzact/adwaam/hai yo litterarly everyone not recommend justiciar, are they all slow, i hardly belive its just because of "eltism"