It's nice to see that the more things change the more they stay the same. You are essentially keeping a tradition alive whereby drummers 'kit bash' their hi-hats by mixing and matching two sets from either different lines within the same company or two separate companies. This is how the modern "fusion" lines came to be - back in the 60s and 70s specifically Zildjian players would use heavier K style bottoms with thinner A types. Eventually most companies began doing the same thing and naming them fusion, mixed hats, etc. Once again proving that e-drummers or analog, we are all pretty much hardwired the same. :)
I've just done it with Roland TD-20 & VH-11 + Roland CY-14C + dead Yamaha PCY-13 and it was hard.....no.....extremely hard - but I did it in the end. I hate the 12" H/H, especially when I play 15" on a real kit. No Roland parts were modified or taken apart in the process so I may just BLOG it one day if other e-drummers are bothered about wanting to play 14" H/H. I hated the 12" diameter from day 1 so this has been a major breakthrough for me. Thanks to Justin for the inspiration to try it.
I have used the vh11 top with the alesis prox bottom and controller. This acheived very good results with a alesis dm10 and also with atv ad5. It gave the most consistent and wide open to close that I have experienced in a edrum hihat. Even better than the vh11. Uaing the roland top significantly reduces the volume issue of the pro x and also gives 2 zones.
Very nice video Justin! Really dig how you try new things and share them with us. I've learned so much from watching your channel over the last year. Keep it up man, I appreciate you!
I did something like this with my old e-kit, which I sorely regret selling now :( but it was about as DIY as you can get. My hi-hat was the Yamaha RHH135 so it went on a real stand but it was only one piece. The hi hat controller is inside the cymbal pad, which I think is a great design and only Yamaha does it that way. I took 3 or 4 old vinyl records and clamped them together with a rubber rim that normally goes on metal drum hoops. It worked really well and didn't look too bad either. It was nice that the vinyl records already had a perfectly centered hole punched into them.
Nice experiment! I've just in recent months started watching your videos. You often cover things not covered elsewhere which I dig! I just recently bought a TD-11 kit. Unfortunately 2 weeks later the TD-17 line was introduced... ugh! I feel burned lol.
Meccarox I possibly could have but I had it shipped and there were a ton of pieces. Plus good luck getting it all to fit back in the boxes the way it came lol
You can replace the strike controller with a goedrum controller and still use the lower cymbal with minor modification. And you can use the strike lower cymbal with the VH10 and 11 with great success with some easily sourced DIY parts. In fact the lower strike cymbal is probably the best option to make a 2 piece if you can find one. And there should be plenty with all the alesis hats that ended up being scrapped.
Justin, it would be a good idea to compare the VH-10 with the GoEdrum controller, since they are both lower quality solutions, is important to know if the issues with the GoEdrum controller, like the flimsiness, low weight, tapering on the lower side and overall balance, are not an issue with the VH-10.
I know, it should be. But what I mean is that if I already have a good Roland cymbal that I use for the hi-hat, a CY-12R/C, am I going to feel a huge difference by upgrading to the VH-10? I'm pretty happy with the Goedrum, as a matter of fact. Triggering is awesome, and super accurate, so do you think the upgrade is justifiable?
Great video Justin! I have a question, so I've had my Alesis Nitro Kit for 7 months and I want to know if the hi-hat will work on a acoustic hi-hat stand would it work with the nitro kit module?
On my acoustic kit i have 2 hi hats so i used to swap them around alot i got sick of doing that so i tried switching the cymbols but the clutch was stuck on one of the cymbols and it didnt fit on the other one so now i just use one
Hey unrelated but my VH10 hi hats have been acting really strange. Calibration and everything adjusted and is fine it’s just every time I play it closed get this really awful random glitches buzzing noises when I try to play it and I just have no idea whats happened
Hey Justin. I'd be interested to know what you think of the Yamaha RHH-135 hihat. I bought one recently and I like it. I'm not sure how it works because the cymbal doesn't make physical contact with the base plate. I suspect it's got a magnet in it. In terms of physical wear and tear that has to be great , right ?
Good idea.. Does the vh11 feel like there's a bottom cymbal when u step on the pedal? That's the reason I havnt swapped my strike out for one. Idk how it feels
Hey Justin, thanks for posting this -- really interesting. A question I've been having lately: is that goedrum controller a viable replacement for the VH11 controller? From what I see here, the answer seems like yes. The reason I ask: those controllers go bad periodically, and I would be interested to know whether the goedrum (at half the price) would be just as good vs. trying to get that part from Roland. So my question to you: would it be possible for you to decouple the goedrum controller from that bottom piece and do a video comparing just the two controllers, their performance, calibration diffs, any issues with the VH11 clutch, etc? Bonus points if you were willing to take apart each one and show the internals :) (I've taken apart my VH11 controller -- no big deal -- but can't speak to the goedrum one) What do you say?
Necessity is the Mother of invention... out of the box thinking at least lets you recycle some, often complex, hardware. My kids’ old, outgrown Guitar Hero drumkit has piezo cymbals with a standard phono connector. So the spare TD11KV cymbal socket now has a readymade robust input source used as a ‘China’.
It's nice to see that the more things change the more they stay the same. You are essentially keeping a tradition alive whereby drummers 'kit bash' their hi-hats by mixing and matching two sets from either different lines within the same company or two separate companies. This is how the modern "fusion" lines came to be - back in the 60s and 70s specifically Zildjian players would use heavier K style bottoms with thinner A types. Eventually most companies began doing the same thing and naming them fusion, mixed hats, etc. Once again proving that e-drummers or analog, we are all pretty much hardwired the same. :)
I've just done it with Roland TD-20 & VH-11 + Roland CY-14C + dead Yamaha PCY-13 and it was hard.....no.....extremely hard - but I did it in the end. I hate the 12" H/H, especially when I play 15" on a real kit. No Roland parts were modified or taken apart in the process so I may just BLOG it one day if other e-drummers are bothered about wanting to play 14" H/H. I hated the 12" diameter from day 1 so this has been a major breakthrough for me. Thanks to Justin for the inspiration to try it.
I have used the vh11 top with the alesis prox bottom and controller. This acheived very good results with a alesis dm10 and also with atv ad5. It gave the most consistent and wide open to close that I have experienced in a edrum hihat. Even better than the vh11. Uaing the roland top significantly reduces the volume issue of the pro x and also gives 2 zones.
Try using a Roland Cy 12 as your bottom cymbal
Very nice video Justin! Really dig how you try new things and share them with us. I've learned so much from watching your channel over the last year. Keep it up man, I appreciate you!
Thanks Steve!
I did something like this with my old e-kit, which I sorely regret selling now :( but it was about as DIY as you can get. My hi-hat was the Yamaha RHH135 so it went on a real stand but it was only one piece. The hi hat controller is inside the cymbal pad, which I think is a great design and only Yamaha does it that way. I took 3 or 4 old vinyl records and clamped them together with a rubber rim that normally goes on metal drum hoops. It worked really well and didn't look too bad either. It was nice that the vinyl records already had a perfectly centered hole punched into them.
"It's alive... ALIVE!"
LOL! Great video on "Frankenstein-ing" a pretty cheap 2-piece hi-hat!
Nice experiment! I've just in recent months started watching your videos. You often cover things not covered elsewhere which I dig! I just recently bought a TD-11 kit. Unfortunately 2 weeks later the TD-17 line was introduced... ugh! I feel burned lol.
Scott Meadows
Can you return/refund it?
Meccarox I possibly could have but I had it shipped and there were a ton of pieces. Plus good luck getting it all to fit back in the boxes the way it came lol
You can replace the strike controller with a goedrum controller and still use the lower cymbal with minor modification. And you can use the strike lower cymbal with the VH10 and 11 with great success with some easily sourced DIY parts. In fact the lower strike cymbal is probably the best option to make a 2 piece if you can find one. And there should be plenty with all the alesis hats that ended up being scrapped.
I love your videos dude! Thank you for this video it was really helpful, Keep up the great work man!
Glad you liked it!
worth a try :) great experiment, Justin!
Thanks John! Thought I'd give it a try, and people would hopefully enjoy it whether or not it panned out :)
Great video justin as always!!
THX you answer my question in this video.... cool.
This is a cool thing to do
Nice video Justin 😁
Thanks Jillian :)
Nice Justin.
I wonder if you would consider making a video about (most durable drum kit)
What do you think of the Alesis strike pro Kit. Eleven piece mesh heads. But I dont know how many mesh it is.
Justin, it would be a good idea to compare the VH-10 with the GoEdrum controller, since they are both lower quality solutions, is important to know if the issues with the GoEdrum controller, like the flimsiness, low weight, tapering on the lower side and overall balance, are not an issue with the VH-10.
I've played the VH10 a bunch, and it's higher quality than the Goedrum controller, it's made of better parts
I know, it should be. But what I mean is that if I already have a good Roland cymbal that I use for the hi-hat, a CY-12R/C, am I going to feel a huge difference by upgrading to the VH-10? I'm pretty happy with the Goedrum, as a matter of fact. Triggering is awesome, and super accurate, so do you think the upgrade is justifiable?
Justin , I suggest you to add an outro for every video like you do with the intro. It can even be some music fading out.
Justin, any suggestions on how to dial in a VH10 with the alesis strike module? Having trouble getting closed/partial open to work properly.
Never been this early before wassup Justin ✌🤘🤘🤘
Hey man! :)
Will the HV11hi hat work on a td30 module? There is a list on what module will work td30 is not on that list. Thanks in advance.
Hey Justin im looking to add a ride to my td11k, currently using some crappy single zone yamaha for one. Is the CY-13R still the way to go?
TheMMOptimist the cy15 is a better ride
It was a nice try!
Ya that bottom piece looks kinda wonky like it doesn't move.... At all lol
That's true, it's a little TOO stable haha :)
Can you make a video comparing the Roland td-17kl and the Yamaha DTX 532k? I can't decide which one to get. Thanks!
Hi there, sorry for this question, but can you do a splash on a VH-11? God bless you, sir.
Great video Justin! I have a question, so I've had my Alesis Nitro Kit for 7 months and I want to know if the hi-hat will work on a acoustic hi-hat stand would it work with the nitro kit module?
On my acoustic kit i have 2 hi hats so i used to swap them around alot i got sick of doing that so i tried switching the cymbols but the clutch was stuck on one of the cymbols and it didnt fit on the other one so now i just use one
Nothing i would do but cool idea
Hey unrelated but my VH10 hi hats have been acting really strange. Calibration and everything adjusted and is fine it’s just every time I play it closed get this really awful random glitches buzzing noises when I try to play it and I just have no idea whats happened
Hi Justin
Hey :)
Hey Justin that has nothing to do with this video but are you planning a video on the new Alesis Strike 1.4 update?
Hey Justin. I'd be interested to know what you think of the Yamaha RHH-135 hihat. I bought one recently and I like it. I'm not sure how it works because the cymbal doesn't make physical contact with the base plate. I suspect it's got a magnet in it. In terms of physical wear and tear that has to be great , right ?
Good idea.. Does the vh11 feel like there's a bottom cymbal when u step on the pedal? That's the reason I havnt swapped my strike out for one. Idk how it feels
Hey Justin, thanks for posting this -- really interesting. A question I've been having lately: is that goedrum controller a viable replacement for the VH11 controller? From what I see here, the answer seems like yes. The reason I ask: those controllers go bad periodically, and I would be interested to know whether the goedrum (at half the price) would be just as good vs. trying to get that part from Roland.
So my question to you: would it be possible for you to decouple the goedrum controller from that bottom piece and do a video comparing just the two controllers, their performance, calibration diffs, any issues with the VH11 clutch, etc? Bonus points if you were willing to take apart each one and show the internals :) (I've taken apart my VH11 controller -- no big deal -- but can't speak to the goedrum one)
What do you say?
Is the Roland vh10 working with every module that is compatible with the vh11?
The spacer needs to be stronger. Cut down the shaft of a spare module mount if you have one, the diameter is perfect.
Necessity is the Mother of invention... out of the box thinking at least lets you recycle some, often complex, hardware. My kids’ old, outgrown Guitar Hero drumkit has piezo cymbals with a standard phono connector. So the spare TD11KV cymbal socket now has a readymade robust input source used as a ‘China’.
Call yourself 69 Drums
#noice
If only the go edrum hi hat was like half an inch smaller it wouldve been perfect
Afflicted15 they are cheap enough to mod im sure it can be done easy enough
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