Vsauce explains cousins - Professional Genealogist Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- In this professional genealogist reacts, I watch "Cousins Explained" by @dingsauce
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My dad died and my mom married his brother, so I have 3/4 siblings.
Wow that’s pretty rare
My granny did the same. My biological mother is the daughter of the original husband and so is her only sister. But also, Granny's brother adopted me as a baby because my biological mother was a teenager in the 70s, so I've always joked that I'm my own cousin because my biological mother is the first cousin of my brother and sister by my adopted parents.
So does my Grandpa
That's what people used to do in Africa, back when Marriage meant land and property. Doing this will keep the Goods in the Family. Nowadays it's just Ew. Even to us traditional Africans.
As a linguist, I always mention that "grand" comes from the French, and "great" is an English or Germanic term, so both are correct.
You can say great-grand, but you can't say grand-grand uncle.
I grew up in a more Germanic section of the country and my grandmother Ludolph was German, so we always said "great."
I never heard of "grand," until I started using Ancestry.
My niece's kids call me "Aunt Retta," as it's just part of my name. I always tell them that I'm not just a good aunt, I'm a great aunt.
Having worked in software development, i also point out that using great requires adding a hyphen, whereas using grand does not.
In French, the term "grand dame" means great lady, or even grandma, so it's always amusing to hear the car named "Grand AM" pronounced because it sounds like grandma.
Very interesting! Not something I had thought about before but makes a lot of sense.
I'm French and first it's "grande dame" (adjective gets inflexion because "dame" is feminine) and second it does not mean grandma at all (grandmother is grand-mère, most people call they grandmas "mamie" and there are also other variants like "mémé", "mémère", "mamé" etc. a lot of which are regional)
I prefer to use Grandaunts/uncles, but grew up saying Great-Aunts/Uncles.
It makes sense - your Aunt is your parent’s sibling, your Grandaunt is your Grandparent’s sibling, your Great-Grandaunt is your Great-Grandparent’s sibling, etc.
I often refer to my 1C1R as “1st cousins, once removed (above) or (below)”. But ‘up’ and ‘down’ are good ways, too.
I guess you don’t even have to say ‘removed’, maybe you could just say “first cousin, one above”.
7:00 In Italian, "nipote" is both "nephew" and "grandson", which is confusing.
I grew up with everyone telling me that my 1st cousins Once Removed were my second cousins. Good video.
The niece/nephew/cousin issue is also pretty common in Mexico. First cousins we view as siblings and therefore, they kids are nieces or nephews. So it's a mess😂😂
Oh, and yeah, I wouldn’t recommend you reacting to a CGP Grey video lol
Hey Vsauce, Michael here. Where are your niblings?
Noted!
Indeed. We don't need nor want another VTH situation!
Well explained I think I finally got it. Wow I am rethinking my relatives. Thanks for going into double cousins my mom's mother and her sister married brothers , my mom had one cousin from that union. They grew up like siblings, looked like twins very alike and close.. Thanks for this great show. Have a great day!
My grandparents also: 2 sisters married 2 brothers on my mother's side, and on my father's side, a sister & brother married brother & sister.
Why aren't we using "pibling" for aunts and uncles? I think the sibling/nibling/pibling nomenclature makes perfect sense. Just as 'parent', 'child' and 'cousin' don't signify gender at all, having an umbrella term for aunts and uncles seems only natural.
The funny thing is the whole family tree has to switch titles, for lack of a better term, depending on who is making the tree. The naming system is all relative (pun certainly intended) and therefore kind of arbitrary, in my opinion. My great uncle made the tree for my mum's side, and I got bored trying to work out who was what to me, as the greats, the great-greats, and the cousins were from my uncle's perspective. He's also nearly 20 years younger than my grandmother, which does not help with the calculations.
I really prefer grandaunt/granduncle to great aunt or uncle. It never made sense to me. Like @JediSimpson I grew up saying the latter. Symmetry in these systems is so much easier.
Yes that Great Aunt/Uncle - Great Niece/Nephew debate is confusing. I refer to my grand niece/nephews as My Niece's kids - they call me their Great Aunt... I sign my cards "Aunt Abbe" - I don't want to mess with the whole thing.
When I ask my genealogist friends about their ancestors like you did in your poll, I generally specify "direct ancestors" to avoid confusion!
Hadn't heard the term 3/4 siblings or cousins but it makes sense when you explained it. I had just thought of the relationship as a half without taking the DNA inheritance into account. Don't think I've seen any genealogy software describe that relationship though.
Can you explain more about half siblings.. and half cousins ..
Say what? 🤣🤣🤣
When I was a kid, the removed was explained to me as a marriage.
So I have a lot of older first cousins once removed on my mom's side. My first cousin on my dad's side has a daughter and to make things easier, she's referred to as my niece. I have a few second cousins on my dad's side and me, my brother and all of my first cousins (on my dad's side) refer to them as nieces and nephews.
A kindergarten class.
I"m in my mid 40's, and I've never heard of grand aunt/ uncles before.
Hi Jarrett,
I also match RR and BL, if that helps to define my connection to these families. I'm still trying to figure them out like I was able to with BE.
It helps in that this shows this is a perfect example of an endogamous match and is considered not genealogically relevant.
Hello Jarrett,
I am trying this again,(5th time, as I put this question in your last live comments section several times, but it vanished, and I tried also through Ancestry messages first) as suggested by your mom, who according to Ancestry is my 4-6th cousin. I know you have Sephardi ancestry, and there was a bit of family lore that we may have had a Sephardi connection as well. My first DNA test results from Ancestry had a small percentage from the Iberian peninsula and an even tinier amount from North Africa. Our family name for the farthest back ancestor I've found on my mother's side is from the early 1700's and that surname was Bas or Bies. It changed over time and migrations to Bass. I was wondering if it could have started as Vas or Vies, as your Nunes Vas name? I also match an Ecoff Nunes, who is a 5-8th cousin. I would love to know if there is a connection to the Sephardi side as it would answer my question about whether we also have a Sephardi background.
Unfortunately you are dealing with too many possibilities to have any sort of clear answer. Small percentages of non-Ashkenazi do not automatically mean Sephardi, even if they are Iberian and/or North African.. The match you seem to have with my mom and Ecoff Nunes (btw, not a Sephardi person but someone who married a Sephardi man) is so small, that there is almost no information to take from it other than we might (huge emphasis on might) be related sometime in the past ~300-700 years. As for the surname, it's possible it was originally Vaz, but it is just as possible that it also started as Basillo, Baza, something else, or Bas was the actual surname they adopted. Sorry to say, nothing that can be confirmed by any of this information.
Ugh! Cousins. I only have one nice, normal Cousin. To me, I don't feel related to the others. DNA related, can hardly believe it, but we are not mentally, value-system related at all. Who are these Niblings? 😢 I guess that this video explains that. He is entertaining!
Didn't Vsauce do a great job!
Definitely a great example of why Vsauce is so popular - breaking things down into a fun and easy to digest format.
I love Vsauce, but that cousin explanation with math involved was more confusing than helpful for me. 🤣🤦🏻♀️ To be fair, I am already very good at understanding what each cousin / cousin removed relationship is. I guess I'll try to apply this if I'm struggling to interpret the potential relationship 🤷🏻♀️