If this video feels familiar, its not deja vu. Just over a year ago I published a video about this car, however the information in it was flawed, and it has since been unlisted. This video uses parts of the original script, but large sections have been re-written to fix inaccuracies and better tell the story of this legendary machine!
I wonder how much faster the DTM car was over a lap. The ITC cars were around 15 seconds per lap faster over the Silverstone GP circuit in 1996 and I think that's the only shared venue.
@samacw ... yeah ... but the BTCC ran with 2 litre group A cars, while the late DTM cars were 2.5 litre group 5 super silhouettes (I hope I wrote it correctly).
My mechanic has an 190 E evo 2 in perfect condition. This car looks so fugly in such a beautiful way. M3's are quite common, Alfas rusted away. The 190 E still turns heads. That stupid ironing board spoiler alone is so hillarious.
Only German manufacturers + Alfa? Japan had the JGTC regulations to replace Group A. (Suspiciously turbo Group A cars like the Skyline GT-R were never allowed in Group A DTM anyway...) It's a shame that when the two categories finally went to combined regulations, there were only a handful of combined races.
@@TassieLorenzoactually turbo engines were allowed for a little bit but then ford won too much for the Germans and the Germans cried and tried restricting it and that failed so Germany banned its engine thus banned turbo engines
To be saying "Alfa only won because they were the only ones having a class 1 car that year" means one could say.."Audi Quattro won only because no one else had 4WD that year". Right?
That would be correct. We can never know for sure what had happened if things went the other way, but such huge advantages over the competition should not be underestimated.
Also is a biased and imho mostly untrue statement, giving the rules were written by Germans in German and all the first hand sources (AKA the Alfa chief engeneer) intervieved complaned about having to translate the rulebook in Italian and giving underperforming choices, adding up that the whole organization was in the backyard of Mercedes and even BMW had enough of them ruling a bit too much (See the moving ballast in the back of the 190 considered legit.. as part of the "free suspention"), overall I think it was a pretty open rulebook, where everyones had the chance to put down what they could, but saying Mercedes didn't have the car because the rules changed without they had the chance to prepare the car is crazy, I would stop and say that Mercedes didn't do enough and was bested not expecting an Alfa that strong, but Fiat moved the whole team from the Delta after leaving the WRC, they did well because they were very, very good, so it's not out of ignorance of a sudden change, also when introduced the new S1 car, the rules changed again, becoming even more extreme, Alfa didn't stay competitve because didn't have the budget to redo the car in 1993 (?), Bosh did the antiskid for free for Alfa for instance, the telemetry was introduced, the rule forced the producer to enter with more car, it become intercontinental, Alfa couden't sustain that, Fiat the Alfa's owner wanted to disinvest (and probably move the budget on Ferrari), the new long waited V6 engine (probably the best engine overall) was done in secret against Fiat management knowing that (again from the sources). In the end they killed the competition with the cost run.
@@arcangeloblues the first year Audi won and shocked everyone. The next year (while everybody was struggling to develop a 4WD car ASAP but was not ready yet) Lancia came with this 037 RWD which was somehow adapted to take on the Quattro. I am talking about the first year. Not the second.
Italian here: there are interviews on youtube (only in italian of course) where the managers or engineers of alfa romeo, I don't remember who, said that in 1996 the cost to develop the car was reaching F1 levels. This means that the technology on these machine was astounding, but no wonder they retired with these costs and poor results. Truly a shame
Mercedes dropped the ball in 93, Alfa deserved the title. Good to see coverage up to 96. The 96 season was my favourite by far, the teams, drivers and liveries were epic I have many of them as model cars. Also the 96 season with the high costs was an arms race destined to fail, due to the TV rights money and lack of crowds at the races like interlargos and Mangy Cours. The 97 zakspeed calibra is a weapon!
I'm sorry but Alfa Romeo made 2 iconic race cars: 155 and 156. Who else did that ? Also, that 12.000 rpm engine in the 155 is one of a kind in this racing kind.
The engine that was capable of 12k (11,900 rpm) was the type the used the PRV engine block. The PRV V6 was manufactured by Française de Mécanique for PRV, which was an alliance of Peugeot, Renault and Volvo Cars. The PRV equipped Alfa 155 made its debut in 1996 - noting that only the block was PRV and the remainder was bespoke Alfa derived 'racing car' componentry.
@@georgebettiol8338 As I remember there was a rule that they can use any engine shape and degree in the car manufacturers list. The Lancia was also the part of the FIAT, and it was equipped with the PRV V6. So the Alfa had a right to use the V6 and the 90 degree between the cilinder lines. As I know this is the common part between the 155 DTM and the PRV V6 engine.
@@hajekpeter6379 Agree the DTM rules in the early to mid 1990s had gotten so lax, and the costs to run a competitive series so high, that the DTM series was simply discontinued at the end of the 1996 season. It seemed to 'mirror' to what had occurred to the Can-Am series of the late 1960s to early 70s where again the rules were somewhat lax (some say almost non-existant), although in the case of the the Can-Am series - it was also affected by the 1973 fuel crisis. Notably, a revamped 'new' DTM began in 2000. Lancia purchased the rights to install the PRV engine in the Thema in 1984 - which was prior to the Fiat take-over of Alfa Romeo which occurred in 1986. It stands to reason that if Fiat had taken ownership of Alfa several years earlier then they would have logically installed the Alfa V6 - which they eventually did for the 1992 model Thema. The PRV V6 was also fitted to the De Lorean, Renault Alpine and Talbot Tagora with carbs. Contemporary reviews of the PRV V6 were not 'complimentary' (an understatement), however its engine block was a relatively very sturdy design that formed the basis of the high reving Alfa powerplant suitable for the DTM series - or at least - for the final year of that version of the DTM. Notably, the PRV's design genesis was as a 3.5 litre V8 - hence the 90 degree layout - however the fuel crisis resulted in a cut down version - ie. a V6 version with effecitively 2 cylinders cut-off the V8 with the undesirable 90 degree layout. The same design philosophy of lopping-off two cylinders off an existing V8 design was also applied by Maserati, for the Merak, de Tomaso for the Biturbo where the engine was based on the Merak (de Tomaso owned Maserati at this time), and Buick that spawned the long lived Buick 3.8 V6 - although in the latter's case, balance shafts were adopted to 'smooth out' the inherently poor harmonics.
I almost went past this as there have been so many docs on the 155. But when i see Automobilistic, i click. You do a great job on all your segments. Great footage, research and narration all done in a recognizable format with a freindly, unassuming host and the cool illustrated thumbnail. -keep up the great work! 🇬🇧🏁🇺🇸🤟🏼
Wow 🤩! I must say , SIR, you are very gifted at this type of content creation. I am a lifelong gearhead / dad-bot , that has drifted away from motorsport. This is the first channel that I have landed on that brings back my passion for the sport . I want to say thank you for this , keep up the incredible work , BRAVO SiR!
I have had two 164s, 156 and 147. Endles tinkering occational problems and quite of bit of kit not working as it supposed to. Newer let me on the side of the road and I have enjoyed every ride tremendously. Actually, looking for anothdr Alfa to replace my boring Audi A3.
@@teroreponen1156 Awesome! I drive a Panda 100HP now. I have it from new and must say that it is very reliable. It's over 200.000km now. Aside the normal services, I only had the electrical steering assist motor that failed once and replaced the foam in the drivers seat twice as the seating frame isn't the best(sharp edges that cut the foam and barely no inner springs). Replaced both and made the seat a better by making my own springs and crossbeams. Until today.. it's still going strong! 😃
I'm lucky enough to have collected this era of DTM video including all of the races in full for the entire 1989 to 1996 and a wealth of other info by way of yearbooks and magazine articles from around the world. The Class 1 190E was used from the outset in 1993 at Zolder. You can see them in the footage. For the opening rounds the teams each had 1x Class 1 for the lead driver and 1x Evo II for the second driver with the T-cars (spare cars) being Evo IIs. Klaus Ludwig, at least initially, preferred the Evo II at some circuits and used it over the Class 1, notably at the Round 3 Nurburgring GP circuit round and where in the second race (as referred to in your video) he gave the Evo II its last DTM victory, actually overtaking Larini's 155 V6 Ti before that car failed, so the victory was not so much "handed to" Ludwig, it was a very hard driven and well deserved win. While the 155 V6 Ti was a clearly new design to the Class 1 rules, it was heavily based on the 1992 Italian Championship winning 155 GTA which was very much a specialised race car (a very modified Lancia Delta Integrale drivetrain in a carbon fibre clad 155 body) in the same way as the V6 Ti. On the other hand the Class 1 190E was a heavily modified Evo II Group A based car. So Alfa did have some head start when developing a pure class 1 car for the 1993 DTM. That said the 1993 V6 Ti captured my 17yo imagination a long way away in Australia and I sought out whatever info I could about it and the DTM - no mean feat at a time before the internet existed in people's day to day lives. It is my number one dream car - Larini's 1993 #8 - followed very closely by the 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II. An absolutely glorious time in touring car racing that will likely never be repeated.
The Alfa Romeo 155 has always been a childhood favorite of mine thanks of course to DTM. I’ve always believed Alfa Romeos are underrated and under appreciated. They have always represented to me an affordable, organic, practical and unique Italian driving experience!!! Phenomenal stuff really! 🇮🇹❤️🔥💯
Dear friend, in 50s, 60s and early 70s Alfa was one of the greatest european factories. It was an era when Sportscar races (Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale, for example) won everything. In F1 era (1970 and over) Alfa was underrated in favour of Ferrari. Believe me, in italians' heart Alfa has a great place
Thank you for teaching us the history of one of the greatest automotove legends - Alfa Romeo. 155 is an icon even though a lot of people object the lack of RWD version.
Think you had aout 20 subscribers (maybe not even) when my main account subscribed after 1 video.. always great to see subscriber count grow every time I come back. Loving the man cave and the beauties in the background.
I really don’t understand how you have only 70k subs. Maybe racing history is more niche than I realize, but the quality of these videos and the attention to detail and ability to make things accessible for everyone with a basic knowledge of cars/racing paired with your very low key but easy to listen to oration style is arguably my favorite work on RUclips. I always get pumped to see you have posted again and thanks for the effort that goes into these videos!
Nice vid! Anyone with a slight interest in DTM and touring car racing overall, remembers the bright red Alfa's 155! It was not only a sporty achievement bij Alfa Romeo, but also a great marketing stunt indeed.
After the the silver arrows' dominance. The Italian red fog looms. A new Challenger has approached. And truly the alpha of racers. They call themselves Alfa Racers. Enter Alfa Romeo, and the 155 (and TI) DTM and BTCC. This car briefly dominated both series. Just like other cars in Gran Turismo. People grew up with it. And mourn how much they like the '90s era of Motorsports so much. It was truly peak super touring era. An era as Aiden Millward put it "The SmackDown Sunday versus Monday Night Raw" of of touring car racing.
An exceptional discussion over the infamous V6 racing engine of the 155 is the one of Sergio Limone (Head Engineer of Alfa Corse) to Davide Cironi. Definitely worth the watch.
The road-going 155 underneath was basically a FIAT Tipo with a trunk... Top-of-the-line was the Q4 with engine and all-wheel-drive system from the Lancia Delta Integrale, but the rest of the range was quite underwhelming, expecially after two decades of Alfetta-based family and executive sedans. The V6 TI was clearly a clever way to "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" which was made possible by the switch to a new ruleset: under Group E, maybe not even the Q4 would have saved the day. Also unfortunate not even an attempt at a (even limited edition) road-going versiont of the V6 TI was made: the combination of the Busso with AWD and an injection of power would probably have boosted the image of the car for good; nowadays, despite its racing successes (apart from 1993 DTM, also worth remembering its wins in 1994 BTCC and 1992 Italian "Superturismo" Championship), still ranks among the lowest-regarded ALFAs ever, which isn't a fully deserved reputation. I think its biggest problem actually was a public used to the sophisticated, exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans of the 1970s and '80s, which skewed the expectations way far high.
"exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans" I like Alfa but I'm not sure I can agree with that about the Type 116 Giulietta and 90! Where the Alfetta sedan and 75 looked good, I think the other two looked unfortunate from the rear and suffered from needing to share so much from the Alfetta. The "larger" 90 having (more or less) the same cabin size as the smaller car was confusing IMO.
nowadays we give for granted things like a shared chassis. But the 155 had the world's second shared chassis (the first being the one of the Alfa 164). It literally changed forever the way cars are built. Google "telaio tipo 2" (2 is for the 164 and 4 for the 155)
also putting a Busso in a road going version would not even had been authentic, as the V6 TI funnily enough used a PRV engine by Peugeot, Renault and Volvo.
@@TassieLorenzo I was referring to the mechanical aspect, not the aesthetic design. The 90 was probably the weakest joint of the crop, but it was an interim stopgap between the Alfetta and the 164, even ALFA was conscious about this.
@h4per_txt565 exactly Ford was dominant in not just touring cars but F1 as well. Many forget Schumacher's first F1 title came at the wheel of a Ford powered Benetton. I'm no big Ford fan but credit where credit is due. They're right up there with the Germans, Italians and French. It's the rest who follow..
Great and well researched film, thanks! One correction though; none of the DTM or ITC cars used Busso derived engines. The TI V6 was an entirely new engine by the Alfa Corse team led by Sergio Limone.
It was basically a German championship. There is an interview with Sergio Limone (who some will remember for the Lancia 037 and the Delta S4) in which he says that it was a real challenge to interpret the rules that the Germans had written in German to his own advantage.
I need to argue something, and this is my minor point not my major one that follows, but Alfa Romeo "Soulfulness" is often incorrectly decoded as a being unreliable, but the meaning is the actual atmosphere, connection, sound, visuals (interior and view out) that a Alfa puts you in. I don't think Alfaheads mind this but just to be clear. They are often Full Experience cars to drive more then anything outside of exotics and a few classics which share this, cars designed as a whole competently for the drivers enjoyment, but alas this is my minor gripe, no Alfahead minds the jokes regarding "Soulfulness" But here is my main dispute, so far as Reliability if you look into it i promise, and i only know of this because i've done cheapskate racing, Alfa Romeos ARE NOT unreliable, they are high maintenance. If you want a anonology compare it kinda but even more complex in nature to Rotory cars like the RX7. What i mean by this is if you want a car to finish a race a Alfa Romeo is one of the top choices, above Honda (which surprisingly break on track a lot when parts are derived mostly from production models) but behind Mazda and Toyota for production cars turned racers, however that is it, they are THAT high up in regards to on-track reliability. However try to live with one as a Daily and every new heat cycle can become a battle, especially if you don't follow the insanely small window of multiple overlapping maintenance timelines that all Alfas of that era have. Properly maintained as a Daily you are doing something comparably major every other oil change or so, just how they are built, but this does nothing to deter actual on track endurance (12-24 hour etc) related reliability. If you don't trust me ask the guys who run "24 Hours of Lemons" or "Chumpcar" in the states. I'm not claiming Alfas aren't a nightmare to own and drive as a daily compared to other cars, but surprisingly when you just beat on a car for hours and hours at full tilt they compare far closer to Mazdas and Toyotas which otherwise are at the top with everything else usually markedly below. Start to stop one of the most reliable, but next heat cycle of the engine and drivetrain look out 🤣
Thanks for giving thumbs for Alfas. They great, unique, beautiful cars. And awesome to drive. I had 04 year Alfa 156 2.0 liter JTS from 2008 to 2017. Such a beautiful car, amazing to drive and it had quite nice engine sounds. I had very little problems with that car, it worked like swiss clock. Then, from 2017 to April 2024 I had a 09 year Lancia Delta 3, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Quite a nice car too and also reliable enough. Then, on April this year I bought a 2012 year Alfa Giulietta, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Beautiful car both outside and inside, really good to drive. But the small turbo engine compared to the 2,0 free aspirated engine thst I had in the 156... It's not nearly as much fun. Also the 156 was better car to drive ( but that tell's you how superb car the 156 was. And is still today). What come's to the reliability of the Giulietta, there's allways something breaking up. Air con, window controls, boot controls etc... But I'm still glad I own one, I love my Giulietta.
@@mtlb2674 Definitely, you sound like a native italian or at least in Europe. I think there is some of the same over there but the Alfa clubs overseas here is one of the most major things, we stopped getting models for a long while so it was basically a support group of Alfa addicts but probably one of the coolest clubs i ever interacted with. Same club was as welcoming to people with 70-80s basketcases to pre-war relics worth more then i can dream of, all that was required is you loved Alfas
I'm not from Italy but from Finland. Most of the people here love their boring Toyota Corollas or their Ford Focus. Not me. No way in hell. Italian cars is the thing. Hoping to afford a Maserati some day...
@@mtlb2674as you took a lot of time to rephrase a stereotype of alpha I demand you spend the same time to rephrase the stereotype of boring and toyota into reliable, stress-free, durable and the true check if a girl you date is a keeper. If she likes your Toyota that's the woman to marry.
Yea but the power of the 155 isn't from the V6 nor the TI itself but the sheer stupidity Alfa did to it just to make the 155 competitive and... It worked.. Flawlessly. The 155 was working in both TI and GTA where the GTA form alone, with FWD, conquered the European Touring Car Championship multiple times from 1992-1997, slammed BTCC to bits with Gabriele Tarquini, the Spanish Touring Car Championship and the Italian Superturisimo Championship. These alone proved how solid of a platform the 155 was even before they took the Q4 variant, turned it into the V6 TI and raced in DTM. Thus, the 155 needs a whole workout, not just the V6 TI variant
One of the most beautiful sounding Alfas was the 1.5l TI Flat 4 with 2 twin downdraught weber carbs. Only 100bhp but a Philharmonic Orchestra of sound.
Great footage from my childhood TV viewing. Thanks so much for this rewrite! This episode justifies calling the 155 one of the most cool cars of the 1990s! Please may we have an Omega or a Mustang DTM story?
Touring car racing series should have realized they were so great BECAUSE they were road car based, which made it somewhat relatable to fans who tuned their own cars. It also meant winning was about being the most aggressive driver, not downforce.
Actually the engine had to have the same bank angle and cylinder bore spacing as an engine the company sold, not necessarily mounted on that model. Alfa resorted to the lingitudinal 90 degree PRV V6 from the Lancia Thema as a basis for the 155 class 1 engine, not the 60 degree Alfa V6 (co called Busso)
Behind tho project there was the same people who made lancia grate on rally’s. Master engineers smart and proper cunning. I strongly advise you all to watch the interviews of this people on RUclips, videos made from a guy call Davide Cironi. You will know in depth stories about Ferraris, Lancia, Lamborghini and Alfa.
Mercedes felt humiliated by Alfa Romeo when they entered DTM. Hence their sportmanship; at the final race of the 1994 DTM championship in Singen, the title is up for grabs between Alessandro Nannini in the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti and Klaus Ludwig in the Mercedes C-Class. Race 1 sees the victory of the reigning champion Nicola Larini in his Alfa Romeo, with both Nannini and Ludwig failing to finish. Race 2 unfolds with most of the Mercedes cars nearly lapped. For Nannini, scoring points would suffice to secure the championship. With 5 laps remaining, Nannini is virtually the champion, but a shocking event occurs, one destined to irreversibly change the outcome of the championship for the Italian driver: Roland Asch, Ludwig's teammate, carries out a cruel and ruthless team maneuver, striking Nannini at the hairpin and pinning him against the barriers. Nannini gets back on track, enters the pits, and requests a tire change. He returns to the race, but this time, not to win the title - instead, for revenge. He sets his sights on the black C-Class of the German driver Asch and, at the hairpin, crashes into him violently, sending Asch into a runoff area. The impact is massive, and Nannini’s 155 catches fire, forcing him to retire. Nannini doesn’t win the title, but he takes satisfaction in striking a blow against a German driver and car on their home turf. The race is once again won by his teammate, Larini, in the other Alfa Romeo.
As noble as Mercedes sticking out so many years without championships to match may seem. I can find no fault in other teams just adhering to the rules more than Mercedes' rally effort cast off. From the turbo'd Volvos and fords, the big block rover, and the AWD of the Quattro and Alfas; they all showed up, passed the tech inspection, and won. And the history books are richer for it.
The 155 is still a stunning-looking touring car and, yes, it’s crazy to suggest that somehow Alfa did anything even vaguely unfair by being the only team to get their act together. All they did was expose the complacency of Mercedes - a much more powerful company.
To my understanding mercedes didn't actually have a point in the 93 season where a team stopped using the evo2 and started using the class 1 Instead at, at least some of the drivers, switched back and forth between the specs throughout the season depending which they thought would better suit the track
Interesting! I would have assumed the class 1 car would have been universally better, but then again, given the car's rapid development timeframe, its easy to believe it had weaknesses
we did the light for the big 2000 People Tent on the rases... In the evening on one day, at a Mangement Meeting, the Alfa People said : in the past we were known for rust and problems, now everyboby loves Alfa for beating Mercedes... this is like a mystery, more than worth all the money we spend....
I think it's a myth, they are no more or less reliable than any other manufacture I have owned at least 5 and never had any issues other than routine servicing. Can't say the same for the BMW's a Merc's I've owned that throw a warning light on a monthly basis.
@@slacko1971 My dad bought a brand new 164 before I was born and he had it in the shop every other week almost with electrical and engine issues. He made more than enough that he didn’t care but it pissed my mom off 😂. He also had a 124 spider that his dad gave him and I don’t think he ever had many issues with that. I think it just comes down to the car itself. He’s had friends with new giulias that have had no issues. Also if it’s used and was mistreated by an owner and the next person gets it it’ll probably have issues. It’s kinda similar to bmws and Audis. They are reliable until someone stops keeping up with it’s routine maintenance
Can you make a video on Ray Nichel's Pontiac Tempest pretty please :3c I'm a Pontiac fan and I'd like to see a Pontiac video made on your formula, and, although footage would be tough hard to find, I think it would earn a nice video
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If this video feels familiar, its not deja vu. Just over a year ago I published a video about this car, however the information in it was flawed, and it has since been unlisted. This video uses parts of the original script, but large sections have been re-written to fix inaccuracies and better tell the story of this legendary machine!
Boss of the sauce
You should do the history of Oliver and that " beta superleggera"
Since at least the 190e was well done
Still going to watch it again.
Seems fitting for an Alfa Romeo video. (Idk I'm just yapping)
I’m okay with that, gives me a good excuse to watch it again 😊
Alfa did brilliantly with the 155 platform, winning DTM and BTCC a year later.
I wonder how much faster the DTM car was over a lap. The ITC cars were around 15 seconds per lap faster over the Silverstone GP circuit in 1996 and I think that's the only shared venue.
@samacw
... yeah ... but the BTCC ran with 2 litre group A cars, while the late DTM cars were 2.5 litre group 5 super silhouettes (I hope I wrote it correctly).
@Rumms-Bumms69 yes. Big difference, but the Alfa 155 ran in both. The BTCC was probably more than most group A at that point too
Gabriele Tarquini, BTCC, 1994 winner.
420 bhp from a 2.5 litre without turbo or supercharger is A LOT.
12k rpm tends to do that!
It was claimed to perform even more. At some literature 480 is highlighted.
And this was 30 years ago!
@@ETV-xt1kq that was the PRV engine in the last year
Well BMW did that in the 70's with the M1, 320hp for the road car, and 500hp for the M1 ProCar
Alfa romeo is something very special, yes they struggle a lot but also they won every championship where they raced . Alfa must live and be successful
Best ERA of Touring Cars....love yours vids!!!!!
Bar none. 1991 - 1997 was also great for the BTCC. Sundays was a dream, DTM, BTCC and F1 was good still.
V8 Supercars is nice to especially pre-2018 supercars
My mechanic has an 190 E evo 2 in perfect condition. This car looks so fugly in such a beautiful way. M3's are quite common, Alfas rusted away. The 190 E still turns heads. That stupid ironing board spoiler alone is so hillarious.
@@gehtdianschasau8372
Alfas haven't rusted since the Sud days. They are simply fantastic cars that are emotional and great to drive
'It was good time the 90s seeing best manufacturer duel it out in dtm'.
So blinded by nostalgia they forgot almost every manufacturer left
Only German manufacturers + Alfa? Japan had the JGTC regulations to replace Group A. (Suspiciously turbo Group A cars like the Skyline GT-R were never allowed in Group A DTM anyway...) It's a shame that when the two categories finally went to combined regulations, there were only a handful of combined races.
@@TassieLorenzo DTM didn't allow the turbocharged R32, but they allowed the turbocharged Opel Carlton?🤔
@@ZedNinetySix_ They dont want an one make race
@@TassieLorenzoactually turbo engines were allowed for a little bit but then ford won too much for the Germans and the Germans cried and tried restricting it and that failed so Germany banned its engine thus banned turbo engines
To be saying "Alfa only won because they were the only ones having a class 1 car that year" means one could say.."Audi Quattro won only because no one else had 4WD that year". Right?
That would be correct.
We can never know for sure what had happened if things went the other way, but such huge advantages over the competition should not be underestimated.
Also is a biased and imho mostly untrue statement, giving the rules were written by Germans in German and all the first hand sources (AKA the Alfa chief engeneer) intervieved complaned about having to translate the rulebook in Italian and giving underperforming choices, adding up that the whole organization was in the backyard of Mercedes and even BMW had enough of them ruling a bit too much (See the moving ballast in the back of the 190 considered legit.. as part of the "free suspention"), overall I think it was a pretty open rulebook, where everyones had the chance to put down what they could, but saying Mercedes didn't have the car because the rules changed without they had the chance to prepare the car is crazy, I would stop and say that Mercedes didn't do enough and was bested not expecting an Alfa that strong, but Fiat moved the whole team from the Delta after leaving the WRC, they did well because they were very, very good, so it's not out of ignorance of a sudden change, also when introduced the new S1 car, the rules changed again, becoming even more extreme, Alfa didn't stay competitve because didn't have the budget to redo the car in 1993 (?), Bosh did the antiskid for free for Alfa for instance, the telemetry was introduced, the rule forced the producer to enter with more car, it become intercontinental, Alfa couden't sustain that, Fiat the Alfa's owner wanted to disinvest (and probably move the budget on Ferrari), the new long waited V6 engine (probably the best engine overall) was done in secret against Fiat management knowing that (again from the sources). In the end they killed the competition with the cost run.
Well the first year of 4WD Audi Lancia still managed to win
@@arcangeloblues the first year Audi won and shocked everyone. The next year (while everybody was struggling to develop a 4WD car ASAP but was not ready yet) Lancia came with this 037 RWD which was somehow adapted to take on the Quattro. I am talking about the first year. Not the second.
It's true!
Italian here: there are interviews on youtube (only in italian of course) where the managers or engineers of alfa romeo, I don't remember who, said that in 1996 the cost to develop the car was reaching F1 levels. This means that the technology on these machine was astounding, but no wonder they retired with these costs and poor results. Truly a shame
Fu una scelta (scellerata) del gruppo Fiat a far cessare il progetto DTM
Dude your channel is pure bliss... from the subject, to the format, even the consistent look of the thumbnails. Professional level, brother!
Mercedes dropped the ball in 93, Alfa deserved the title. Good to see coverage up to 96. The 96 season was my favourite by far, the teams, drivers and liveries were epic I have many of them as model cars.
Also the 96 season with the high costs was an arms race destined to fail, due to the TV rights money and lack of crowds at the races like interlargos and Mangy Cours.
The 97 zakspeed calibra is a weapon!
I'm a fan of Alfa Romeo because of this car
I'm sorry but Alfa Romeo made 2 iconic race cars: 155 and 156. Who else did that ?
Also, that 12.000 rpm engine in the 155 is one of a kind in this racing kind.
How could he not mention all of those glorious RPMs? Somehow disappointing. 🏁
The engine that was capable of 12k (11,900 rpm) was the type the used the PRV engine block. The PRV V6 was manufactured by Française de Mécanique for PRV, which was an alliance of Peugeot, Renault and Volvo Cars. The PRV equipped Alfa 155 made its debut in 1996 - noting that only the block was PRV and the remainder was bespoke Alfa derived 'racing car' componentry.
@@georgebettiol8338 As I remember there was a rule that they can use any engine shape and degree in the car manufacturers list. The Lancia was also the part of the FIAT, and it was equipped with the PRV V6. So the Alfa had a right to use the V6 and the 90 degree between the cilinder lines. As I know this is the common part between the 155 DTM and the PRV V6 engine.
@@hajekpeter6379 Agree the DTM rules in the early to mid 1990s had gotten so lax, and the costs to run a competitive series so high, that the DTM series was simply discontinued at the end of the 1996 season. It seemed to 'mirror' to what had occurred to the Can-Am series of the late 1960s to early 70s where again the rules were somewhat lax (some say almost non-existant), although in the case of the the Can-Am series - it was also affected by the 1973 fuel crisis. Notably, a revamped 'new' DTM began in 2000.
Lancia purchased the rights to install the PRV engine in the Thema in 1984 - which was prior to the Fiat take-over of Alfa Romeo which occurred in 1986. It stands to reason that if Fiat had taken ownership of Alfa several years earlier then they would have logically installed the Alfa V6 - which they eventually did for the 1992 model Thema.
The PRV V6 was also fitted to the De Lorean, Renault Alpine and Talbot Tagora with carbs. Contemporary reviews of the PRV V6 were not 'complimentary' (an understatement), however its engine block was a relatively very sturdy design that formed the basis of the high reving Alfa powerplant suitable for the DTM series - or at least - for the final year of that version of the DTM. Notably, the PRV's design genesis was as a 3.5 litre V8 - hence the 90 degree layout - however the fuel crisis resulted in a cut down version - ie. a V6 version with effecitively 2 cylinders cut-off the V8 with the undesirable 90 degree layout. The same design philosophy of lopping-off two cylinders off an existing V8 design was also applied by Maserati, for the Merak, de Tomaso for the Biturbo where the engine was based on the Merak (de Tomaso owned Maserati at this time), and Buick that spawned the long lived Buick 3.8 V6 - although in the latter's case, balance shafts were adopted to 'smooth out' the inherently poor harmonics.
Good info in this thread, thanks all. 👍
I almost went past this as there have been so many docs on the 155. But when i see Automobilistic, i click. You do a great job on all your segments. Great footage, research and narration all done in a recognizable format with a freindly, unassuming host and the cool illustrated thumbnail. -keep up the great work! 🇬🇧🏁🇺🇸🤟🏼
The 155 was a looker,in both DTM and BTCC guise.The BTCC was great in 1994,when they dominated the series.l have both of these as models.Great piece!
Your videos are so good.
Wow 🤩! I must say , SIR, you are very gifted at this type of content creation. I am a lifelong gearhead / dad-bot , that has drifted away from motorsport. This is the first channel that I have landed on that brings back my passion for the sport . I want to say thank you for this , keep up the incredible work , BRAVO SiR!
The 155 has a special place in my heart. They say that you're a real enthousiast when you ever owned an Alfa. The 155 was my first car.
I have had two 164s, 156 and 147. Endles tinkering occational problems and quite of bit of kit not working as it supposed to. Newer let me on the side of the road and I have enjoyed every ride tremendously. Actually, looking for anothdr Alfa to replace my boring Audi A3.
@@teroreponen1156 Awesome! I drive a Panda 100HP now. I have it from new and must say that it is very reliable. It's over 200.000km now. Aside the normal services, I only had the electrical steering assist motor that failed once and replaced the foam in the drivers seat twice as the seating frame isn't the best(sharp edges that cut the foam and barely no inner springs). Replaced both and made the seat a better by making my own springs and crossbeams. Until today.. it's still going strong! 😃
DTM 155 chassis derived from Lancia Delta WRC . It's engine, otherwise, was had pure Alfa blood.
The cherry on top , you are a natural at dry auto humor, just phenomenal !
Fire up raceroom 95. DTM goodness ❤.
diepholz getting coverage
I'm lucky enough to have collected this era of DTM video including all of the races in full for the entire 1989 to 1996 and a wealth of other info by way of yearbooks and magazine articles from around the world. The Class 1 190E was used from the outset in 1993 at Zolder. You can see them in the footage. For the opening rounds the teams each had 1x Class 1 for the lead driver and 1x Evo II for the second driver with the T-cars (spare cars) being Evo IIs. Klaus Ludwig, at least initially, preferred the Evo II at some circuits and used it over the Class 1, notably at the Round 3 Nurburgring GP circuit round and where in the second race (as referred to in your video) he gave the Evo II its last DTM victory, actually overtaking Larini's 155 V6 Ti before that car failed, so the victory was not so much "handed to" Ludwig, it was a very hard driven and well deserved win.
While the 155 V6 Ti was a clearly new design to the Class 1 rules, it was heavily based on the 1992 Italian Championship winning 155 GTA which was very much a specialised race car (a very modified Lancia Delta Integrale drivetrain in a carbon fibre clad 155 body) in the same way as the V6 Ti. On the other hand the Class 1 190E was a heavily modified Evo II Group A based car. So Alfa did have some head start when developing a pure class 1 car for the 1993 DTM.
That said the 1993 V6 Ti captured my 17yo imagination a long way away in Australia and I sought out whatever info I could about it and the DTM - no mean feat at a time before the internet existed in people's day to day lives. It is my number one dream car - Larini's 1993 #8 - followed very closely by the 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II. An absolutely glorious time in touring car racing that will likely never be repeated.
honestly it’s a mystery to me how this channel hasn’t blow up yet. this is at least 5-600k sub content imo.
Love these videos, very professional! The scripts are always on point and well delivered. Great footage too.
The Alfa Romeo 155 has always been a childhood favorite of mine thanks of course to DTM. I’ve always believed Alfa Romeos are underrated and under appreciated. They have always represented to me an affordable, organic, practical and unique Italian driving experience!!! Phenomenal stuff really! 🇮🇹❤️🔥💯
Love V-6 too! 💯
Dear friend, in 50s, 60s and early 70s Alfa was one of the greatest european factories. It was an era when Sportscar races (Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale, for example) won everything.
In F1 era (1970 and over) Alfa was underrated in favour of Ferrari. Believe me, in italians' heart Alfa has a great place
Thank you for teaching us the history of one of the greatest automotove legends - Alfa Romeo.
155 is an icon even though a lot of people object the lack of RWD version.
Think you had aout 20 subscribers (maybe not even) when my main account subscribed after 1 video.. always great to see subscriber count grow every time I come back.
Loving the man cave and the beauties in the background.
I really don’t understand how you have only 70k subs. Maybe racing history is more niche than I realize, but the quality of these videos and the attention to detail and ability to make things accessible for everyone with a basic knowledge of cars/racing paired with your very low key but easy to listen to oration style is arguably my favorite work on RUclips. I always get pumped to see you have posted again and thanks for the effort that goes into these videos!
These videos are so good bro definitely needs more subs
I had a 1996 Alfa 155 2.5 V6 in red when I was 19 bought it in 98 and sold it in 2003. I really wish I had kept it.
Nice vid! Anyone with a slight interest in DTM and touring car racing overall, remembers the bright red Alfa's 155! It was not only a sporty achievement bij Alfa Romeo, but also a great marketing stunt indeed.
Very well done video, mate. I hope plenty of younger folks watch it too, and not just aging enthusiasts like myself ;) Cheers.
After the the silver arrows' dominance. The Italian red fog looms. A new Challenger has approached. And truly the alpha of racers. They call themselves Alfa Racers. Enter Alfa Romeo, and the 155 (and TI) DTM and BTCC. This car briefly dominated both series. Just like other cars in Gran Turismo. People grew up with it. And mourn how much they like the '90s era of Motorsports so much. It was truly peak super touring era. An era as Aiden Millward put it "The SmackDown Sunday versus Monday Night Raw" of of touring car racing.
lets not forget about Alfa's excellent 93 season for BTTC (British series) with the 2.0L formula
Excellent work as always 👍
An exceptional discussion over the infamous V6 racing engine of the 155 is the one of Sergio Limone (Head Engineer of Alfa Corse) to Davide Cironi. Definitely worth the watch.
0:29 The bird watching the race is funny (also nice video)
The road-going 155 underneath was basically a FIAT Tipo with a trunk... Top-of-the-line was the Q4 with engine and all-wheel-drive system from the Lancia Delta Integrale, but the rest of the range was quite underwhelming, expecially after two decades of Alfetta-based family and executive sedans.
The V6 TI was clearly a clever way to "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" which was made possible by the switch to a new ruleset: under Group E, maybe not even the Q4 would have saved the day. Also unfortunate not even an attempt at a (even limited edition) road-going versiont of the V6 TI was made: the combination of the Busso with AWD and an injection of power would probably have boosted the image of the car for good; nowadays, despite its racing successes (apart from 1993 DTM, also worth remembering its wins in 1994 BTCC and 1992 Italian "Superturismo" Championship), still ranks among the lowest-regarded ALFAs ever, which isn't a fully deserved reputation. I think its biggest problem actually was a public used to the sophisticated, exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans of the 1970s and '80s, which skewed the expectations way far high.
"exquisitely-designed Alfetta-based sedans" I like Alfa but I'm not sure I can agree with that about the Type 116 Giulietta and 90! Where the Alfetta sedan and 75 looked good, I think the other two looked unfortunate from the rear and suffered from needing to share so much from the Alfetta. The "larger" 90 having (more or less) the same cabin size as the smaller car was confusing IMO.
nowadays we give for granted things like a shared chassis. But the 155 had the world's second shared chassis (the first being the one of the Alfa 164). It literally changed forever the way cars are built. Google "telaio tipo 2" (2 is for the 164 and 4 for the 155)
also putting a Busso in a road going version would not even had been authentic, as the V6 TI funnily enough used a PRV engine by Peugeot, Renault and Volvo.
@@tank-eleven Yes, but because it would have been possible it'd be nice to use it.
@@TassieLorenzo I was referring to the mechanical aspect, not the aesthetic design.
The 90 was probably the weakest joint of the crop, but it was an interim stopgap between the Alfetta and the 164, even ALFA was conscious about this.
This is such a good channel. Please keep going.
There was no non-German DTM winner before 155, and neither after 155.
Ford Sierra, Volvo
It was the only foreign car that beat the Krauts at their own DTM.
Really? The 1985 season was won by the Volvo 240 Turbo, 1986 by the Rover SD1 Vitesse and 1988 by the Sierra RS500
Volvo, and Ford Germany with the Sierra, there's also those crazy Ford Capri's, Ford of Germany were on the ball.
What about the rs500 and the rs500 evo, ford won plenty in DTM
@h4per_txt565 exactly Ford was dominant in not just touring cars but F1 as well. Many forget Schumacher's first F1 title came at the wheel of a Ford powered Benetton. I'm no big Ford fan but credit where credit is due. They're right up there with the Germans, Italians and French. It's the rest who follow..
Great and well researched film, thanks! One correction though; none of the DTM or ITC cars used Busso derived engines. The TI V6 was an entirely new engine by the Alfa Corse team led by Sergio Limone.
Amaz8ng thr video quality footage you grab for this...super! Keep up tye good work
I really love this car in both gt4 and gt7, they are incredibly stable/planted cars right out of the box with no tinkering.
Listening to you after watching that "last" episode of GT is warming, thank you
Only Alfa Romeo could beat the Germans at their own game. So nice to see Alessandro and Gianna together, few people know they're brother and sister.
No they weren't, Volvo did it as did Ford of Germany with the Sierra and the Capri.
I never knew there was a Class 1 type 190.
Can’t say I’ve ever seen one either.
I would have definitely remembered those squared off wheel arches.
Beautiful, fast, great sounding cars. What more could you ask for? Competition is always great, especially for the viewers. 😊
I'm still in love with the BMW M3 E30, that thing is a beauty
you should make a video about opel, just opel in general. calibra, astra, kadett, manta, ascona, omega
It was basically a German championship. There is an interview with Sergio Limone (who some will remember for the Lancia 037 and the Delta S4) in which he says that it was a real challenge to interpret the rules that the Germans had written in German to his own advantage.
Thx nice Video love the Story, love your way to Tell us
Love the old days of DTM 😊
Great show young man 🎉
I need to argue something, and this is my minor point not my major one that follows, but Alfa Romeo "Soulfulness" is often incorrectly decoded as a being unreliable, but the meaning is the actual atmosphere, connection, sound, visuals (interior and view out) that a Alfa puts you in. I don't think Alfaheads mind this but just to be clear. They are often Full Experience cars to drive more then anything outside of exotics and a few classics which share this, cars designed as a whole competently for the drivers enjoyment, but alas this is my minor gripe, no Alfahead minds the jokes regarding "Soulfulness"
But here is my main dispute, so far as Reliability if you look into it i promise, and i only know of this because i've done cheapskate racing, Alfa Romeos ARE NOT unreliable, they are high maintenance. If you want a anonology compare it kinda but even more complex in nature to Rotory cars like the RX7. What i mean by this is if you want a car to finish a race a Alfa Romeo is one of the top choices, above Honda (which surprisingly break on track a lot when parts are derived mostly from production models) but behind Mazda and Toyota for production cars turned racers, however that is it, they are THAT high up in regards to on-track reliability. However try to live with one as a Daily and every new heat cycle can become a battle, especially if you don't follow the insanely small window of multiple overlapping maintenance timelines that all Alfas of that era have. Properly maintained as a Daily you are doing something comparably major every other oil change or so, just how they are built, but this does nothing to deter actual on track endurance (12-24 hour etc) related reliability.
If you don't trust me ask the guys who run "24 Hours of Lemons" or "Chumpcar" in the states. I'm not claiming Alfas aren't a nightmare to own and drive as a daily compared to other cars, but surprisingly when you just beat on a car for hours and hours at full tilt they compare far closer to Mazdas and Toyotas which otherwise are at the top with everything else usually markedly below. Start to stop one of the most reliable, but next heat cycle of the engine and drivetrain look out 🤣
Thanks for giving thumbs for Alfas. They great, unique, beautiful cars. And awesome to drive. I had 04 year Alfa 156 2.0 liter JTS from 2008 to 2017. Such a beautiful car, amazing to drive and it had quite nice engine sounds. I had very little problems with that car, it worked like swiss clock. Then, from 2017 to April 2024 I had a 09 year Lancia Delta 3, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Quite a nice car too and also reliable enough. Then, on April this year I bought a 2012 year Alfa Giulietta, 1,4 liter Multi Air. Beautiful car both outside and inside, really good to drive. But the small turbo engine compared to the 2,0 free aspirated engine thst I had in the 156... It's not nearly as much fun. Also the 156 was better car to drive ( but that tell's you how superb car the 156 was. And is still today). What come's to the reliability of the Giulietta, there's allways something breaking up. Air con, window controls, boot controls etc... But I'm still glad I own one, I love my Giulietta.
@@mtlb2674 Definitely, you sound like a native italian or at least in Europe. I think there is some of the same over there but the Alfa clubs overseas here is one of the most major things, we stopped getting models for a long while so it was basically a support group of Alfa addicts but probably one of the coolest clubs i ever interacted with. Same club was as welcoming to people with 70-80s basketcases to pre-war relics worth more then i can dream of, all that was required is you loved Alfas
I'm not from Italy but from Finland. Most of the people here love their boring Toyota Corollas or their Ford Focus. Not me. No way in hell. Italian cars is the thing. Hoping to afford a Maserati some day...
@@mtlb2674as you took a lot of time to rephrase a stereotype of alpha I demand you spend the same time to rephrase the stereotype of boring and toyota into reliable, stress-free, durable and the true check if a girl you date is a keeper. If she likes your Toyota that's the woman to marry.
Yea but the power of the 155 isn't from the V6 nor the TI itself but the sheer stupidity Alfa did to it just to make the 155 competitive and... It worked.. Flawlessly.
The 155 was working in both TI and GTA where the GTA form alone, with FWD, conquered the European Touring Car Championship multiple times from 1992-1997, slammed BTCC to bits with Gabriele Tarquini, the Spanish Touring Car Championship and the Italian Superturisimo Championship. These alone proved how solid of a platform the 155 was even before they took the Q4 variant, turned it into the V6 TI and raced in DTM.
Thus, the 155 needs a whole workout, not just the V6 TI variant
Thanks for this. Much appreciated.
I've been out with Larini in a touring car, he drives like a nutter :D
Sick Video Bro. Thanks
Near where I live is a 155 Silverstone edition. Which has its own little tale of controversy behind it. I covet this car lol
Great stuff. Thank you. 🎉🎉. Alfa is still the best.
One of the most beautiful sounding Alfas was the 1.5l TI Flat 4 with 2 twin downdraught weber carbs. Only 100bhp but a Philharmonic Orchestra of sound.
Nice work 👏
Loved these 155’s, but haven’t seen one still on the road for many, many years.
Basically the 155 dtm shares so many parts with the Lancia Delta Evoluzione ☠️
It was born on Delta Evoluzione based, except engine, of course
Ohh the Golden era 12.000rpm❤
Easily the best DTM car of all time I mean I love RS5 V8 DTM and Audi V8 DTM, hell Benz DTM V6 was amazing but that 155 beat em all
first car was a Audi A3, then i bought my brothers A4, it is such a nice car, love it so damn dearly
Alfa is a legend, and their importance in motorsport cannot be doubted
Great footage from my childhood TV viewing. Thanks so much for this rewrite! This episode justifies calling the 155 one of the most cool cars of the 1990s! Please may we have an Omega or a Mustang DTM story?
Touring car racing series should have realized they were so great BECAUSE they were road car based, which made it somewhat relatable to fans who tuned their own cars. It also meant winning was about being the most aggressive driver, not downforce.
The german wikipedia is listing the different cars and the rounds they were used for.
The 155 is an absolute beaut and sounds like nothing else
New subscriber ! Excellent video thanks 🎉
Do the story around the dakar truck that daf built in the 80s that runs 2 engines and multiple turbo chargers
The 155, especially in red, might be the prettiest race car ever imo.
Noice work. So the Vauxhall/General Motors Calibra next then.
Actually the engine had to have the same bank angle and cylinder bore spacing as an engine the company sold, not necessarily mounted on that model. Alfa resorted to the lingitudinal 90 degree PRV V6 from the Lancia Thema as a basis for the 155 class 1 engine, not the 60 degree Alfa V6 (co called Busso)
Amazing video!
Behind tho project there was the same people who made lancia grate on rally’s. Master engineers smart and proper cunning. I strongly advise you all to watch the interviews of this people on RUclips, videos made from a guy call Davide Cironi. You will know in depth stories about Ferraris, Lancia, Lamborghini and Alfa.
Ah, yes, been watching his videos for many years now, amazing content! 👍👍
Fu costruita sulla base della Delta da rally: traz integrale e telaio. Se la guardi bene, è una Delta travestita da 155
Man those green/gold Mercedes cars looked goo though!!!
Mercedes felt humiliated by Alfa Romeo when they entered DTM. Hence their sportmanship; at the final race of the 1994 DTM championship in Singen, the title is up for grabs between Alessandro Nannini in the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti and Klaus Ludwig in the Mercedes C-Class.
Race 1 sees the victory of the reigning champion Nicola Larini in his Alfa Romeo, with both Nannini and Ludwig failing to finish.
Race 2 unfolds with most of the Mercedes cars nearly lapped. For Nannini, scoring points would suffice to secure the championship. With 5 laps remaining, Nannini is virtually the champion, but a shocking event occurs, one destined to irreversibly change the outcome of the championship for the Italian driver:
Roland Asch, Ludwig's teammate, carries out a cruel and ruthless team maneuver, striking Nannini at the hairpin and pinning him against the barriers.
Nannini gets back on track, enters the pits, and requests a tire change. He returns to the race, but this time, not to win the title - instead, for revenge.
He sets his sights on the black C-Class of the German driver Asch and, at the hairpin, crashes into him violently, sending Asch into a runoff area. The impact is massive, and Nannini’s 155 catches fire, forcing him to retire.
Nannini doesn’t win the title, but he takes satisfaction in striking a blow against a German driver and car on their home turf.
The race is once again won by his teammate, Larini, in the other Alfa Romeo.
As noble as Mercedes sticking out so many years without championships to match may seem. I can find no fault in other teams just adhering to the rules more than Mercedes' rally effort cast off.
From the turbo'd Volvos and fords, the big block rover, and the AWD of the Quattro and Alfas; they all showed up, passed the tech inspection, and won. And the history books are richer for it.
It looks so fricking cool
Nice modelcars you have there in the background. Is that the 99 AutoArt TS020?
The 155 is still a stunning-looking touring car and, yes, it’s crazy to suggest that somehow Alfa did anything even vaguely unfair by being the only team to get their act together. All they did was expose the complacency of Mercedes - a much more powerful company.
Do the next one on the Calibra pleaaase
To my understanding mercedes didn't actually have a point in the 93 season where a team stopped using the evo2 and started using the class 1
Instead at, at least some of the drivers, switched back and forth between the specs throughout the season depending which they thought would better suit the track
Interesting! I would have assumed the class 1 car would have been universally better, but then again, given the car's rapid development timeframe, its easy to believe it had weaknesses
This video gave me PTSD flashbacks of early game GT7 Gr.4 online races...
top 5 sounding engines ever IMO
Donnington didn’t give points because a national championship only was allowed one race abroad, which was Zolder
I love your great content brother 😀😎
literally the best race car ever made
we did the light for the big 2000 People Tent on the rases... In the evening on one day, at a Mangement Meeting, the Alfa People said : in the past we were known for rust and problems, now everyboby loves Alfa for beating Mercedes... this is like a mystery, more than worth all the money we spend....
Alfas may not be super reliable but lord they are something else to drive
I think it's a myth, they are no more or less reliable than any other manufacture I have owned at least 5 and never had any issues other than routine servicing. Can't say the same for the BMW's a Merc's I've owned that throw a warning light on a monthly basis.
@@slacko1971 My dad bought a brand new 164 before I was born and he had it in the shop every other week almost with electrical and engine issues. He made more than enough that he didn’t care but it pissed my mom off 😂. He also had a 124 spider that his dad gave him and I don’t think he ever had many issues with that. I think it just comes down to the car itself. He’s had friends with new giulias that have had no issues. Also if it’s used and was mistreated by an owner and the next person gets it it’ll probably have issues. It’s kinda similar to bmws and Audis. They are reliable until someone stops keeping up with it’s routine maintenance
@@slacko1971true, my Alfa 145 lasted me longer than my Corolla RunX RSI.
1993 was the best season of DTM.
9:25 What's this Song Called?
Very good channel. But please try not to stress or pitch your voice. Vowel quality will be better.
fred any plans to make a video about opel calibra dtm
yes :)
Fantastic! ❤
I like the M3. I f*cking LOVE the 190 EVO 2!
Can you make a video on Ray Nichel's Pontiac Tempest pretty please :3c
I'm a Pontiac fan and I'd like to see a Pontiac video made on your formula, and, although footage would be tough hard to find, I think it would earn a nice video
what a monster in GT2