There is something so oddly amusing that in a sport where you typically think of the contestants as these aerodynamic sleek race cars that one of them was just a fat box with fans on the end.
Although these cars have not been very successful in racing, they are among the most iconic and recognizable cars for any racing fan, so they will be remembered forever. I don't know if you can ask for anything more from a failed project.
Great list. Not furious about anything on it. Others would be the Ford RS200, The Porsche Indycars (both the '80-81Interscope and the '89-90 debacle) and the Lancia LC-1
The RS200 actually did see some success, it was used extensively in Rallycross during the late 80s and early 90s where it got some pretty notable wins, and was the primary rival to the Lancia Delta S4
If you dim the background lighting a bit and get a softer light on your face you'll create more background separation, you could get a faster lens (lower F stop) to create even more background separation and it'll look even better. Either way, great stuff. Sound is perfect.
The wingless 9X8 deserved a mention, it was doing really welll in it's Le Mans debut but it had mechanical issues, after that Peugeot gave it a wing and couldn't keep up with the rest during this years race.
The 9X8 did got two podiums. Last year at 6 Hours of Monza and this year's 8 Hours of Bahrain with the new 9X8, that finished originally 4th, although 3rd due to the 51 Ferrari stripped from podium because of exceeding its tire allocation. The new 9X8 did also finished 4th at Fuji, which is another good result for it. The wingless 9X8 could have also got a podium at Qatar, but it sadly ran out of fuel and got DQ'd afterwards (F you, ACO and FIA.) Tbh, if I ran Peugeot Sport, I could have actually just create a new car with a wing from the beginning of the program instead of a wingless one.
I think a pretty interesting racing story is the team that Emerson Fittipaldi made in 1975, but never did all that well. Emerson’s brother was on the team but even he didn’t do well
Good one. The wake of that car/team does make for some interesting stories. Without it, James Hunt might just be another flash in the pan driver instead of WC and peerless announcer. And Fittipaldi's career resurrection in the US was something to behold.
Wilson set up the team and raced for it in 1975. Emerson only moved to the team in 1976, but Wilson wasn't racing anymore by then. Wilson ran the team for the most part, while Emerson ran his career into the ground.
I have a modern one to add to this list. The NGTC spec, BTCC Audi A4. If Driver/Owner Rob Austin had been a little luckier in sponsorship acquisition, and being able to hire the drivers he wanted, the cars Sherman and Panzer could have been BMW slaying weapons and championship threats. Instead we got a midfield packing team with occasional flashes of speed and a whole 1 race win instead.
Staying on cars that deserved better or were never raced, it would be a cool video to go over the group B and group S projects that never rallied. Some of them are either crazy, from auto companies you really wouldn't expect, or both.
Great video idea and great video! Another car I'd add to the list is the Koenigsegg CCGT. Designed for the GT1 regulations, but just as it was ready, the regulations were changed. I imagine if the first step into racing had worked for Koenigsegg, they might have built other cars for racing, maybe a prototype.
McLaren: "ban the 2J, it's cheating and ejecting gravel into the air!" Also McLaren: "we're gonna make our own F1 fan car, something that's never been done before!"
the RS002 is not an entirely fair example as the category for which it had been built was scrapped before the 1st season would begin. There was a lot if really cool cars built to Group S regulations, though.
I would add the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo from 2015. A very interesting concept that ran one race at Le Mans and was never given the chance for more development after.
I was going to say the same thing, they found a "loophole" in the rules they thought they could exploit to get very high downforce very efficiently it was just rushed and poorly managed that it never worked correctly. In sims where it still isn't accurate to the original plan it still is somewhat competitive if driven well and it has crazy straight line speed due to it's design. I think the real car they had hoped to have the energy recovery be deployed from the rear wheels which would've made it AWD in the acceleration zones where it suffers most
I love Porsche cars, but I despise their "Must win at all costs, even if it means we will 100% destroy the race series we''re in, as long as we win" attitude.
There is something so oddly amusing that in a sport where you typically think of the contestants as these aerodynamic sleek race cars that one of them was just a fat box with fans on the end.
That's why a lot of things are banned just because they make the cars look ugly.
Jim Hall of Chapparal Racing was about function over form although many of his cars were beautiful.
Although these cars have not been very successful in racing, they are among the most iconic and recognizable cars for any racing fan, so they will be remembered forever. I don't know if you can ask for anything more from a failed project.
Even me a Porsche enthusiast who always loved the 959, sometimes forget it was originally built as a Group b rally car lol
Great list. Not furious about anything on it. Others would be the Ford RS200, The Porsche Indycars (both the '80-81Interscope and the '89-90 debacle) and the Lancia LC-1
The RS200 actually did see some success, it was used extensively in Rallycross during the late 80s and early 90s where it got some pretty notable wins, and was the primary rival to the Lancia Delta S4
If you dim the background lighting a bit and get a softer light on your face you'll create more background separation, you could get a faster lens (lower F stop) to create even more background separation and it'll look even better. Either way, great stuff. Sound is perfect.
The wingless 9X8 deserved a mention, it was doing really welll in it's Le Mans debut but it had mechanical issues, after that Peugeot gave it a wing and couldn't keep up with the rest during this years race.
The 9X8 did got two podiums. Last year at 6 Hours of Monza and this year's 8 Hours of Bahrain with the new 9X8, that finished originally 4th, although 3rd due to the 51 Ferrari stripped from podium because of exceeding its tire allocation. The new 9X8 did also finished 4th at Fuji, which is another good result for it. The wingless 9X8 could have also got a podium at Qatar, but it sadly ran out of fuel and got DQ'd afterwards (F you, ACO and FIA.)
Tbh, if I ran Peugeot Sport, I could have actually just create a new car with a wing from the beginning of the program instead of a wingless one.
@Box1-lf9hvthey didn't let the wind tunnel tell them if it would work, they just stubbornly tried to create a wingless prototype.
Great work and very enjoyable. Ten out of ten, buddy.
I think a pretty interesting racing story is the team that Emerson Fittipaldi made in 1975, but never did all that well. Emerson’s brother was on the team but even he didn’t do well
Good one. The wake of that car/team does make for some interesting stories. Without it, James Hunt might just be another flash in the pan driver instead of WC and peerless announcer. And Fittipaldi's career resurrection in the US was something to behold.
Wilson set up the team and raced for it in 1975. Emerson only moved to the team in 1976, but Wilson wasn't racing anymore by then. Wilson ran the team for the most part, while Emerson ran his career into the ground.
"Hey look, it's my favorite Toy- oh I'm gonna be sad again"
Surprised the Ford RS200 isn't here?
Whats that?
I think the Mclaren F1 Longtail in Le Mans 1997 also deserved better.
Cool idea. Let's add the Simtek F1 project, the Ford RS200, the Escort Cosworth, the Mercedes CLK GT1 and the LMP675 class.
You should have included the TVR Speed 12
So much Grand Turismo nostalgia for the GT-One. I like the top ten format too!
Your channel is very underrated i love the attention to detail you put in your videos.
I have a modern one to add to this list. The NGTC spec, BTCC Audi A4. If Driver/Owner Rob Austin had been a little luckier in sponsorship acquisition, and being able to hire the drivers he wanted, the cars Sherman and Panzer could have been BMW slaying weapons and championship threats. Instead we got a midfield packing team with occasional flashes of speed and a whole 1 race win instead.
What a great video! Is it a coincidence that most of the cars on the list are the ones I like to race in Gran Turismo and PC sims? 😂
Staying on cars that deserved better or were never raced, it would be a cool video to go over the group B and group S projects that never rallied. Some of them are either crazy, from auto companies you really wouldn't expect, or both.
Great video idea and great video! Another car I'd add to the list is the Koenigsegg CCGT. Designed for the GT1 regulations, but just as it was ready, the regulations were changed. I imagine if the first step into racing had worked for Koenigsegg, they might have built other cars for racing, maybe a prototype.
Another one is the Panoz DP01, a beautiful race car that only saw 1 season of use due to the end of the CART/IRL split.
Like this format a lot!
Why are there so many dislikes ?!?
I truely wonder why
The GT1 and 787B are cars I'd spend millions on building for myself.
My first car certainly deserved better than being crashed on my garage door.
Idk how well it fits since we don't really know itmf ot was going to be raced, but the Mazda Furai will always be one of my favourite what-if?
McLaren: "ban the 2J, it's cheating and ejecting gravel into the air!"
Also McLaren: "we're gonna make our own F1 fan car, something that's never been done before!"
Thanks for another great year of content.
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TVR Speed 12, Ford RS200, Audi RS002 Group S car, Chevrolet T-Rex Monte Carlo and the Lotus 88.
the RS002 is not an entirely fair example as the category for which it had been built was scrapped before the 1st season would begin. There was a lot if really cool cars built to Group S regulations, though.
I would add the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo from 2015. A very interesting concept that ran one race at Le Mans and was never given the chance for more development after.
that thing probably deserves a whole episode to itself!
I was going to say the same thing, they found a "loophole" in the rules they thought they could exploit to get very high downforce very efficiently it was just rushed and poorly managed that it never worked correctly. In sims where it still isn't accurate to the original plan it still is somewhat competitive if driven well and it has crazy straight line speed due to it's design. I think the real car they had hoped to have the energy recovery be deployed from the rear wheels which would've made it AWD in the acceleration zones where it suffers most
I hope that Toyota builds a GT-One streetcar kinda like how Nissan did the R390-GT1
I love Porsche cars, but I despise their "Must win at all costs, even if it means we will 100% destroy the race series we''re in, as long as we win" attitude.
Xj13 looks better than e type
How about the Andrea Moda S921 ? It was a good car (not as bad as it looked On paper ), but hampered by a mismanaged team and lack of developement
Great video. However just for future reference Depailler is pronounced "de-pie-yay".
It's a recap episode :(
It's Automobilistic's :)
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23:30 is that not an Aston Martin?
Well spotted, looks like a DBR1 - I can't believe that made it in! Apologies
@ all good, I dread to think of how many hours of footage you poured over!
Toyota serial bottlers
You have pretty eyes, you should wear the glasses less lol