Sweet army, love those battle rats! This is how the hobby should be, people creating armies out of whatever works for them. Props to the game designers and companies creating space for this stuff.
you know, I honestly like how you talk about this, a lot of other youtubers (mostly 3d printing ones) are all just shitting on gw for their prices and how they could print 10 tanks for the price of one, you just said that its about getting what you want and what looks cool rather than sticking it to gw, its a really nice change of pace for what i'm use to, especially considering this is the first time i've seen your content
Yeah, their Kings of War miniatures are really awesome from a design standpoint. I think I prefer some of them to the equivalent from GW because the artists seem to be given a lot more freedom to come up with something new than with Warhammer where some of the sculpts are more of an iteration on an existing design to better take advantage of better injection moulding technology when they have to retire the previous moulds due to wear and tear. I do feel that the majority of their sci fi stuff is a bit less impressive, though the Veer-Myn models here are great (even with the slightly disappointing aspect of there being shared models between the sci fi and fantasy games, which look out of place next to the power armour and industrial mining equipment employed by the rest of the army)
I've stopped updating with WFB 8th edition, and pretty much gone back to 6th rules-wise. For me they offer the best combination of historical realism, army balance, and crazy that Warhammer is known for. You don't have to play the latest edition. Once you realize that, and have some like-minded friends, price hikes become a non-issue. That said, the Khadrin are perhaps the only army in AoS that has an idea behind it I find interesting. Dwarf air pirates is just the perfect combination of crazy and tradition. Awesome build. Would love some more slow glamor shots at the end.
I set myself a challenge of building my a Nurgle army with a budget under £20. I’ve been setting fire to toy soldiers and other toys to get horrible melty diseased flesh monsters with a bit of rough sculpted detail and texture paint to hide my shoddy sculpts.
@@CCMinis they’re horrible and I love them. I went for a super simple colour scheme of green from below and pink from above. It helps to pick out the details when I add a light drybrush. This is both my cheapest and quickest army to date
@@CCMinis Lately I’ve been painting up two late war WW2 Bolt Action armies for the US and Germans, using ranges from Black Tree Designs. I’m also a big fan of anything by Copplestone, particularly the Bolsheviks from their Back of Beyond Range. Foundry and Artizan make excellent Victorian/Wild West/Pulp Ranges. West Wind Productions and North Star Military Figures has one covered for Victorian Sci Fi (“steampunk”). Honestly, I love 40k lore to death though; I used to play Imperial Guard. Almost got back into it recently, but the pricing has gone from “kinda expensive for a teenager,” to highway robbery in the past fifteen years. That, and the codex is overpriced and far more poorly organized than it was back in the day. And most of the new minis often aren’t as cool looking as they used to be (new Cadians aside). Edit: For 15mm, Blue Moon’s Italian Wars range is excellent.
Good Video, I honestly don't feel like supporting GW due to their shitty policies on certain things so a good alternate way to build models is right up my alley
Cool video. But you know they took away the rule that made the blood knights recharge and recharge, in the new book. I play soulblight gravelords my selv and i totaly guttet by it, they are now just 5 weak dudes on horses, so i dont find them worth the cost they are now
Yeaaaaa I'm a bit bummed about that too. With their mortals on move you can do d3 mortals 3 times in a turn tho, which is not bad at all. They are more of an MSU scalpel instead of a hammer now
@@CCMinis deffenetly. And i think i just add something else. But that was what my only legion of blood list was build on. So its going to be only Vyrkos lists from here out
Awesome work but how much did all the extra pieces cost? Also, what value is to be given to the opportunity cost that goes into learning the required skills and the time taken to build them? I would rather pay for the GW models. It's a bit like saying you don't need to buy models if you just build them all from scratch. Not really practical.
@@guilhermecarvalhotrindade2625 For sure, RUclips does nuke links, so I'll provde some topics that are worth googling, but that's all I can do to prevent an auto delete (sorry) Back in warhammer fantasy days, GW suddenly and surprisingly sprung the end times on us and eliminated fantasy. Leaving a game unsupported is one thing, but they eliminated the vast majority of models from their website, which was something of a shock. A lot of us in the community purchased end times specific models, only to have our game completely scraped, our highly expensive armies now broadly useless on the table top. AOS is a pretty good game now, but back then it was terrible. Rules were chaotic, there was no balance, the early edditon clearly extremely rushed. Armies had no point values at the time, and we lost a LOT of what the old guards liked about fantasy. It felt like they siphoned the last bits of capital out of us, and then promptly dumped us. It has made me leery to invest in a game that may just suddenly fall apart. Model prices have always been high, but they are RAPIDLY out pacing inflation for total cost. Quality minatures from other manufacturers are now available, and GW offers very little reason to favor their models outside of an industry dominating position as the largest wargaming company. You can't bring in anything, not MTG, not proxies, to a GW store or event. This isn't the end of the world, but that has been GW's reaction to any changes in the market or technology: ban it and forget about it. *this includes games that have models that ARE NO LONGER OFFERED*. Not even Wizards of the Coast stops players from using alternative miniatures for DnD. They don't compete, they attempt to maintain their monopoly and charge like it. This doesn't effect me, because I use two FLGS'. I print out of date models (if you want some high elf STLs I would be happy to share via email btw :) ). Instead of adapting to technology changes, GW has blanket banned 3D printing parts from their minis, including supplemental pieces. Their kits are badly designed, so you either have way too little or too much for what the rules call for. They try to get you to overspend on your minis. They regularly and bizarrely copyright strike their fans when they make art or videos of their products. Within their legal right, sure, but it's hostile and poorly recieved by their HIGHLY creative by nature community that essentially does free advertising for them. GW has had some ugly worker relationships in the past in their factories and contractors GW chronically under supports most of their product line, and then are baffled when that product line fails (warhammer fantasy). When I was playing 8th ED it would he two or three months between updates in fantasy, and some armies were never updated at all. They appear to be doing this again by under supporting the launch of the Old World.
@@guilhermecarvalhotrindade2625 So, at the end of it, when I see way over priced models, copyright happy lawyers to creators on RUclips, outdated and archaic practices with printers (I would buy STL files from GW in a heartbeat by the way), and only leave me with rules I like and a rad setting, I opt to print and buy my hobby supplies from an LFGS than pay the absurd markup
I feel you bro... I love tge design of GW especiallly the imperial guard.... But some shocktroops with 10 models cost like 40 Bucks... Also they changed the design of the cadian an ruined them
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Thanks Durbles, glad you made it
You really did a great job painting these models. I love the ingenuity of the builds.
Thanks Lo-fi!
Fantastic work - love the look of the warp stones - another perfect 5 out of 7
Thanks Twin Steel!!! You're a 5 / 7
Sweet army, love those battle rats! This is how the hobby should be, people creating armies out of whatever works for them. Props to the game designers and companies creating space for this stuff.
100% yes!
New CC video, instant click! For real though, this is exactly why I started sculpting my own nurgles for fun. Great work Nick!
Thanks Terran, love your nurgle builds!
@@CCMinis 9:05 why is it that I make this exact noise at the end of recording. This must be a hobby youtuber phenomenon.
@@ConjuredCraft shhhhh don't let the others know
...so there really were no rats UNDER Altdorf :P
such frigging cool army idea! well done, mate
Ratmen? Don't be preposterous
They look awesome!!!! 😊
Thanks!
@@CCMinis you are welcome
I would honestly check out Kings of war. It's such a fantastic game.
I should!
These turned out GREAT!
Thanks James!!!
One page rules is great. Lots of stuff
Station Forge has amazing Death Korps, Space Marines, Orkz and AdMech.
Recently subscribed to them, they are great!
Doing the floating crystals is what really got me.
you know, I honestly like how you talk about this, a lot of other youtubers (mostly 3d printing ones) are all just shitting on gw for their prices and how they could print 10 tanks for the price of one, you just said that its about getting what you want and what looks cool rather than sticking it to gw, its a really nice change of pace for what i'm use to, especially considering this is the first time i've seen your content
Oh 100%, I'm not gonna say getting GW stuff is wrong, I really enjoy a lot of their kits, sometimes the look of an army just isnt for me
Love your imaginative builds! This is very creative
This is awesome, man! Nice builds!
Thanks Bill!
Mantic is pretty good, their Abyssal Dwarves make great proxies for Chaos Dwarves.
And at like 1/3rd of the price too.
Love mantic stuff
Yeah, their Kings of War miniatures are really awesome from a design standpoint. I think I prefer some of them to the equivalent from GW because the artists seem to be given a lot more freedom to come up with something new than with Warhammer where some of the sculpts are more of an iteration on an existing design to better take advantage of better injection moulding technology when they have to retire the previous moulds due to wear and tear.
I do feel that the majority of their sci fi stuff is a bit less impressive, though the Veer-Myn models here are great (even with the slightly disappointing aspect of there being shared models between the sci fi and fantasy games, which look out of place next to the power armour and industrial mining equipment employed by the rest of the army)
I love this so much! Please feel free to do another video like this 😂🙏
I'm partial to the Vermynn myself, but I've also had my eye on the Astreals. Great looking kits, so I think I'm gonna pick some up next weekend.
Those are sweet!
Well done mate. Really impresive idea and exexution...
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. This is, ironically, Warhammer at its finest.
just wait until you read the rules for the games he proxies the minis from
Thanks Oldex!
Love what you did here fantastic work..👍
Thank you!
As a skaven & kharadron fan, i admire your creativity, man ! Subscribbed !
This was dope. Nicely done.
I wish I had this level of creativity. Excellent work
I've stopped updating with WFB 8th edition, and pretty much gone back to 6th rules-wise. For me they offer the best combination of historical realism, army balance, and crazy that Warhammer is known for. You don't have to play the latest edition. Once you realize that, and have some like-minded friends, price hikes become a non-issue.
That said, the Khadrin are perhaps the only army in AoS that has an idea behind it I find interesting. Dwarf air pirates is just the perfect combination of crazy and tradition. Awesome build. Would love some more slow glamor shots at the end.
I set myself a challenge of building my a Nurgle army with a budget under £20. I’ve been setting fire to toy soldiers and other toys to get horrible melty diseased flesh monsters with a bit of rough sculpted detail and texture paint to hide my shoddy sculpts.
I bet they look super nurgly!
@@CCMinis they’re horrible and I love them. I went for a super simple colour scheme of green from below and pink from above. It helps to pick out the details when I add a light drybrush. This is both my cheapest and quickest army to date
I mostly buy historicals in large part because of the insane pricing of GWs minis.
What ranges do you enjoy? There's so many it's hard to know whats worth checking out
@@CCMinis Lately I’ve been painting up two late war WW2 Bolt Action armies for the US and Germans, using ranges from Black Tree Designs.
I’m also a big fan of anything by Copplestone, particularly the Bolsheviks from their Back of Beyond Range. Foundry and Artizan make excellent Victorian/Wild West/Pulp Ranges. West Wind Productions and North Star Military Figures has one covered for Victorian Sci Fi (“steampunk”).
Honestly, I love 40k lore to death though; I used to play Imperial Guard. Almost got back into it recently, but the pricing has gone from “kinda expensive for a teenager,” to highway robbery in the past fifteen years. That, and the codex is overpriced and far more poorly organized than it was back in the day. And most of the new minis often aren’t as cool looking as they used to be (new Cadians aside).
Edit: For 15mm, Blue Moon’s Italian Wars range is excellent.
Skaven Sky Pirates.... enough said! I so happy more people are realising nobody needs GW!
Everybody's so creative
This is the way. Cool video
Thanks!
Nooo. Not ko pls Nick don't gun line me off the board 😭
So anyway, I started blasting
Skaven ko make it so much more tolerable though.
Really nice video
This was awesome
You're awesome!
Glad you did something cool for this video
Thanks Matt!
Very nice. Forgeworld haven't updated their prices in some areas and it's jaw-dropping to see GW prices outrank forgeworlds
Yea it's wild nowadays
Before paint I thought it was gonna look like ass but I was wrong
That prime step always brings it together =]
Lovely conversions!
Thanks Bill!!
awesome job mate!
Thanks HAV!
Cool army!
GW prices are getting out of hand, that's why I got a 3D printer. By the time you've used your first Kg of resin, you've saved money.
Amazing. Bill sent me.
When you tune into your imagination, almost anything's possible eh? 😂
Absolutely!
Good Video, I honestly don't feel like supporting GW due to their shitty policies on certain things so a good alternate way to build models is right up my alley
Try playing a game of kings of war. The game warhammer fantasy should have been.
Now if only we can replace the GW rules with something functional 😅
One Page Rules may be the thing for you
Cool video. But you know they took away the rule that made the blood knights recharge and recharge, in the new book. I play soulblight gravelords my selv and i totaly guttet by it, they are now just 5 weak dudes on horses, so i dont find them worth the cost they are now
Yeaaaaa I'm a bit bummed about that too. With their mortals on move you can do d3 mortals 3 times in a turn tho, which is not bad at all. They are more of an MSU scalpel instead of a hammer now
@@CCMinis deffenetly. And i think i just add something else. But that was what my only legion of blood list was build on. So its going to be only Vyrkos lists from here out
Awesome work but how much did all the extra pieces cost? Also, what value is to be given to the opportunity cost that goes into learning the required skills and the time taken to build them? I would rather pay for the GW models. It's a bit like saying you don't need to buy models if you just build them all from scratch. Not really practical.
All good points and questions you need to answer for yourself my dude. Bits accumulate naturally
Neato
I dont love it, but i did enjoy the video and the process. Great work !
Thanks Holy! Glad you enjoyed the vid
Everyone shitting on GW yet all of them trying to BE GW LOL
Spitting the truth
I can't hear GW's garbage business practices over the hum of my printer.
Care to elaborate? I'm just now getting into the hobby, and would like to know more. (Sources please)
@@guilhermecarvalhotrindade2625 For sure, RUclips does nuke links, so I'll provde some topics that are worth googling, but that's all I can do to prevent an auto delete (sorry)
Back in warhammer fantasy days, GW suddenly and surprisingly sprung the end times on us and eliminated fantasy. Leaving a game unsupported is one thing, but they eliminated the vast majority of models from their website, which was something of a shock. A lot of us in the community purchased end times specific models, only to have our game completely scraped, our highly expensive armies now broadly useless on the table top. AOS is a pretty good game now, but back then it was terrible. Rules were chaotic, there was no balance, the early edditon clearly extremely rushed. Armies had no point values at the time, and we lost a LOT of what the old guards liked about fantasy. It felt like they siphoned the last bits of capital out of us, and then promptly dumped us. It has made me leery to invest in a game that may just suddenly fall apart.
Model prices have always been high, but they are RAPIDLY out pacing inflation for total cost. Quality minatures from other manufacturers are now available, and GW offers very little reason to favor their models outside of an industry dominating position as the largest wargaming company. You can't bring in anything, not MTG, not proxies, to a GW store or event. This isn't the end of the world, but that has been GW's reaction to any changes in the market or technology: ban it and forget about it. *this includes games that have models that ARE NO LONGER OFFERED*. Not even Wizards of the Coast stops players from using alternative miniatures for DnD. They don't compete, they attempt to maintain their monopoly and charge like it. This doesn't effect me, because I use two FLGS'.
I print out of date models (if you want some high elf STLs I would be happy to share via email btw :) ). Instead of adapting to technology changes, GW has blanket banned 3D printing parts from their minis, including supplemental pieces.
Their kits are badly designed, so you either have way too little or too much for what the rules call for. They try to get you to overspend on your minis.
They regularly and bizarrely copyright strike their fans when they make art or videos of their products. Within their legal right, sure, but it's hostile and poorly recieved by their HIGHLY creative by nature community that essentially does free advertising for them.
GW has had some ugly worker relationships in the past in their factories and contractors
GW chronically under supports most of their product line, and then are baffled when that product line fails (warhammer fantasy). When I was playing 8th ED it would he two or three months between updates in fantasy, and some armies were never updated at all. They appear to be doing this again by under supporting the launch of the Old World.
@@guilhermecarvalhotrindade2625 So, at the end of it, when I see way over priced models, copyright happy lawyers to creators on RUclips, outdated and archaic practices with printers (I would buy STL files from GW in a heartbeat by the way), and only leave me with rules I like and a rad setting, I opt to print and buy my hobby supplies from an LFGS than pay the absurd markup
3d printer go brrrrrrr
I hope not paying GW gives you the same satisfaction I get from not paying WotC
100% yes
I feel you bro... I love tge design of GW especiallly the imperial guard.... But some shocktroops with 10 models cost like 40 Bucks... Also they changed the design of the cadian an ruined them
Oooooof that's painful
I wish that the Warhammer models were that price here in New Zealand🥲
I don't know how y'all do it!