These are great pedals, I run a pair of them as a stereo rig straight into an audio interface for recording. I just wanted to add another perspective regarding the range of the Voice control. To my ears, the setting around 9 o'clock is much more like a Twin Reverb, deeply mid scooped and brittle in the top end and fairly ugly when driven. This morphs into a blackface Deluxe up around 11 o'clock, still mid scooped but much friendlier and warmer with some drive. Things get brown or blonde from about 1 0'clock and then fully tweed at 3 o'clock, where the mid scoop has all but disappeared. Beyond that is nothing like most Fender amps, so your SuperSonic reference is a good call! This all makes the Voice control a powerful walk through Fender's amp history!
I play Yamaha Pac strats, and love the ZOOM G2 Twin-style( with ZOOM EQuing...), so I dig the scooped rather than the midhump!! as the basics! buying one of these back for my Jazz tone!! A Marvel ped fo 30€ sec hand!!
I got one of these pedals recently and couldn't believe how good it sounded, it's now on my pedalboard running into my clean Vox ac15 and it sounds fantastic
Can you get it to make single notes have that nice gravely sound? I'm trying to get that old blues harmonica sound but only does it on two or more notes, not single notes. Does a chorus help do that? I'm thinking it might as would be like duel notes
I have a Caline American Sound (same idea), and it is being used in front of a Marshall Origin 50H, and provides so much more tone shaping than the mamp on its own. Furthermore, many amps, like Marshalls are very midrange focused, and this pedal really does an amazing job providing Fender character. Cheap pedal, but don't be fooled by cost because they really do an amazing job. I am running mine last in the chain too, with the "Voice" character knob to the left- sure takes out the honkines of the Marshall mid-bump. Love it! Nice job on this video.
I plug it into the power amp in of my katana mkii and it sounds great. Best 30 bucks I've ever spent. Like you said, the eq is very sensitive which makes it very versatile even beyond the different voice options.
Hey. Thx for the comment. Yeah I keep coming back to this pedal. It’s bloody great. So capable think I’m gonna get the AC one again abs use it for my AC sound.
Just got mine and really love how it transforms my amp tone. For a classic Fender Deluxe Reverby sound, into an amp, would I put my combo reverb/Trem pedal before or after the Joyo?
@@BobEstremera the common view is that reverb goes after gain, but that's not necessarily true always imo. I think even in the real amp where the reverb is located in the circuit is more complicated than just either before or after the gain stage. So, as they say, I'd just trust my ears. As for tremolo I think most people put it after gain, but I use before the joyo because it interacts nicely with the gain when set just slightly above edge-of-breakup.
Thanks Aaabii. If you enjoyed the video. Maybe check out some of my other content and if you enjoy it subscribe. I’ve a competition running at the minute to win a pedal too.
Thank you for running it thru a IR sim.....most people don't seem to realize how much better it sounds when going direct and putting a cab sim after it ..I like putting a 4x12 cab sim after it when going direct into a DAW....👍🎉😁
Thx mate. I’ve actually recently done another demo of it using it direct with the mooer cab sim DI box. Might be of interest. It really is an amazing pedal.
@@TheGuitarEffectso it won't blow up my focusrite 2i4 interface? Preamp into preamp? I'd like to use for direct recording but afraid to harm interface ... thanks!
Oh craps!! These had pretty great prices at amazon prime day, I wish I checked out that video earlier :)) Anyway - still a great value for a price. Thanks man!
Hey. Thanks for the comment. I think it can always be found used for absolute peanuts. Check free ads pages where you are at. Great pedal this. Really useful
I am on my second one. I gave my first one to my cousin to use for gigging. I haven’t really used it much until recently. A friend and I are working on putting together an acoustic duo, so I finally broke down and bought an accoustic amp for that purpose. For grins I tried running the Joyo AS into my new Loudbox mini. It sounded surprisingly good! Now I can do small venue solo acoustic gigs, or play electric lead and do backing vocals with my buddy. I need to try setting it up with my A/B switch to see if I can switch from acoustic to electric on the fly!
Hey Brian! I am also on my second one! If you are looking to use acoustic and electric sounds simultaneously or A/B ing between them check out my 72 Tele video. I’ve tried every kind of hybrid setup and this is the best I’ve found. ruclips.net/video/NZbjX1dSj0Q/видео.html
@@TheGuitarEffect I tried it through the effects loop of a Marshall Valvestate with an Epiphone Les Paul. I will try it next through a Peavey Bandit. However, I've noticed that just about everyone on RUclips is playing a Stratocaster or Tele through it. Does one have to use a single coil guitar to get a decent sound?
@@TheGuitarEffect I tried it today with a Peavey and it sounded much better, even with the Les Paul. With the Marshall it just sounded like crap. So, now at least I know how to get useful sounds out of it, with a different amp :). Thanks for writing back, I appreciate it. Happy Holidays and New Year to you and your family.
I Really enjoy&like your video! I also use it in front of my amp to sculpt my clean tone…and I have a 40 watts Fender Hot Rod Deluxe version 3 in my studio and a version 4 in my apt and, believe or not,it adds punch 🥊 and clarity (even more)to the existing original clean tone who came in with the amps.🤷🏻♂️ In my pedalboard chain I put it after all my overdrives and distortion pedals but before my 2 delays and my digital reverb! Of course I use it to record straight to my interface going to the computer and it’s fantastic! Probably this is one of the most powerful tools I ever bought for less than 40$….it’s awesome! I highly recommend it to every guitarist for recording or live!
Hey MD music. Thx for your comment. I reckon the pedal could be really useful with the hot Rod amps for both making them sound like blackface cleans or tweed breakup. So I totally get where you are coming from. I agree totally for the money and the tone sculpting power they have everyone should have one. Thanks again mate.
I use mine for direct recording through a Focusrite 2i2 but add effects in the DAW to take away the sterile sound. I’m going to buy a Joyo Cab Box ir to run it through.
Hey Roy Boy. Thx for the comment. I watched a demo of the little NUX IR loader pedal recently. Actually seems to sound great and is pretty affordable. The Joyo one is very fully featured though.
Love this pedal but with the drive anything over about 11 o'clock the hiss is very noticible. I go straight into a PA for live. Just ordered a Mooer micro DI cab sim as per on of you other videos.
Hey. Thx for the comment. Yeah it’s a great pedal. I think the DI box Will particularly make a difference with the brittle height end when the gain is cranked but to be fair one of the most amazing things about the American sound is how well it takes pedals.
Hey. Yeah it would colour the sound of the amp to be like a fender. If your amp has an effects loop it would sound good plugged into the effects return too
I've got both the UA Ruby and Dream '65 - I've gone back to the Joyo pedals (AC Tone + American Sound) can't say they are a downgrade. The built-in cab sim that supposedly these pedals have is just an EQ curve applied but to call it 'cab sim' is a disservice. To get the most out of these pedals just stick a Cab IR loader at the end. Loving the Flamma FS07 because it is a stereo cab IR loader so I stick the AC Tone into L and the American Sound into R jacks (pick a cab for each channel to match each pedal: Ownhammer IRs) and we have tone for days
Hey Quicksilver. That’s really interesting. Those pedals look amazing but are extremely expensive. I recently got the IR200 from boss and it’s very impressive. But is it night and day ahead if the American sound for a fender sim. No. Not really. I agree completely about the speaker sim thing too. It benefits hugely from an external speaker sim of some sort
@@TheGuitarEffect I kinda re-discovered these pedals recently. I've had these pedals, like everyone else, for quite some years now (mine are the Harley Benton re-badges) I put together a sort of afford-a-board together using Mooer/Tone City pedals and man I am loving these tones. I am not using an amp - just straight from pedals and cab sim to audio interface. I haven't missed the UA pedals at all with this "affordable" setup. BTW, loving the channel and currently catching up with previously-released content :) keep them videos coming!
Hey quicksilver. I actually have an episode where I built a board with only Caline pedals and they were really impressive. I really enjoy finding new sounds from budget gear. I’m not really a player who has to have the newest most expensive gear available at all. I don’t really think that philosophy has much to do with music to be honest. Thx so much for your kind words about the channel I really enjoy making the vids. Though my band is starting to get busy now so it’s getting a bit harder to do one every week.
I use that pedal as an almost clean boost on Manouche gigs (on Selmer Style acoustic guitar). The one issue I have with it is the knobs always move themselves around in transit (even in a box). Oh, and sometimes I accidentally change knob positions with my shoe when engaging/disengaging it. I wish they were slightly stiffer. Great pedal though! I think mine is a Harley Benton.
Joyo, Ammoon and Harley Benton are all different "brands" of the same company. I was even noticing some Joyo listings on Amazon displayed Ammoon pedals. Some of this is regional (Harley Benton seemed to be sold in Europe, but was the same as Joyo), or it may just be rebranding for one reason or another, but a LOT of the Chinese pedals share circuitry and parts.
Hey Troy. Thx for the comment. You’re exactly right. As far as I know Harley Benton is only produced for thomann. The rest of the brands just sell the same product with a different logo and sometimes a different paint scheme.
Hey. Thanks for the comment. So yes it does work in that capacity as a distortion pedal at higher gain or to give your clean sound a fender feel and sound at lower settings. My first video on ten pedal was about that exactly. Joyo American Sound - Turn your amp into a fender! ruclips.net/video/0wIcwIa_JTo/видео.html
Can i plug this directly into the PA without a cabsim or DI box for live shows? Along with my other pedals. Trying to go ampless for live shows pls help
Hi Ahmad. Yes you can use just the American sound. You’d ideally have a di box to convert the signal to line level and if you are going to get a DI box get the mooer one so you have the can sim. But you don’t technically need it
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you for the prompt response. I'm not looking to buy a cabsim or a di box atm thats why I wanted to ask you if i could plug it directly into the PA along with all my other pedals. My chain would be PA->American Sound->reverb->delay->chorus->distortion->compressor->noisegate->tuner
Is this the same as the Joyo American Sound? I assume yes. Do these include a speaker cab simulation. I know not on a switch, but always on internally? I've read that it does. I have this pedal, I like recording with it, and have used it for a church gig as a clean preamp direct into a di into the mixer into the pa. Wondering though, if it's really got that cab sim, as I picked up a di with a cab sim, which I used, though it added a lot of hiss, but I'm not so knowledgeable about the various historical cabinets, and the sonic fingerprint they impart? Honestly, I'm happy enough without a cab sim in the mix, my ear doesn't seem to have that expectation, but my concern others will or do have that ear expectation... opinions?
Hey alpha numeric. Thanks for the comment. Yep. Exactly the and pedal as a Joyo American sound. I’m not sure whether it has a cab sim on board but it does sound OK going direct for recording as I showed in the video. Far better with an impulse response added. With regard to whether you need the cab sim DI box, if it sounds good to you without it then it should sound good to the audience right? However it f you are getting his try hitting the ground life switch on the DI it might get rid of the hiss.
@@TheGuitarEffect Ground lift had no effect. The American Sound is the hissiest pedal I own. Then the Fish and Chips, then the Boss CS-3. But the American Sound is the hissiest, especially if I try to get it back up to unity gain. But the American Sound then into the DI which added to the hiss, THEN the cab sim added even more hiss. My rig is as close as dead quiet as I could hope. No real issues at all (I have had a little digital pedal powersupply noise, but it's not an issue in current incarnation) with noise, absolutely no need for a noise gate. But the American Sound, really does bring the noise, so to speak. I can't tell if it's by design, like trying to emulate a jacked amp? I don't know. I wish I knew the Tech 21 pedal this is a clone of. I'd like to know if that pedal is equally as noisy. Or if in Joyo's cloning they've spec'ed a component poorly, or cut a corner in some way in the circuit that has caused this excessive noise? I wonder. In your vid, the noise is overwhelming as well. I've got some pedals that I consider hi gain, though in this insane music world that we're in now, they would likely be classed as midgain, but even those pedals pretty close to dimed are WAY quieter than the Joyo American sound at timid settings of drive and voice. So, I don't know what it is... I wonder if I could mod it, get some better filter capacitor in there or something to clean the hiss up, or some quieter op amp, or a better bias on the op amp? I just don't know enough about circuit design to really dig in like that, and I'm just too poor to brick out a pedal as important and as useful as the American Sound. And I don't have time for nerding around. Ax time is too valuable to be spending it a with soldering iron in my hand. Even though, I've been spending a lot more time than I'd like, like that. Damn Supro guitars. Well built, but spec'ed out with the damn cheapest components. Didn't even use copper wire in these guitars. Is that the norm nowadays for $1,000+ guitars? If so, I'm leaving the planet. That aluminium wire bullsh!t should be declared by retailers, so we can avoid unworkable gear. I mean these goid foil pickups are sealed, with aluminium wire coming out. Holy cow, I'm just properly ranting now. The frustration is real. And apologies for my original comment up there. You addressed most of my questions in the vid, I just started the vid, and barfed out all these questions that have been swirling around in my head about this pedal. Apologies, and cheers for the vid.
@@alphanumeric1529 Hey man. for me noise is just a part of playing gainy sounds. You just use your volume knob to turn the guitar down when you aren't playing. I can't be dealing with the high pitched sound of a mis matched power supply for a pedal alright but I don't mind a bit of noise on a higher gain sound. And no probs about the questions. I very much welcome them.
@@TheGuitarEffect Thing is, I have... I'm not even going to count, but quite a few pedals that are far gainer, and absolutely far quieter. The American Sound needs to be fairly well cranked just to get back up to unity gain. All of my mid/hi gain pedals are silent, like SILENT at unity. I can't even tell if they're on. The Tech21 Blonde, the pedal that the American Sound is a clone of, is it really noisy as well? This is so loud I almost think it has to be intentional, like they're trying to create amp hiss? OR, I'm wondering if Joyo or whomever really makes these, if they used a less expensive component or left out a piece of the OG circuit making the American Sound is excessively noisy? I'd like to know, because I'd mod the pedals in a second, if it's a matter of a component or two that needs to be swapped for a higher quality component. SMT, I don't care, I'll take my chances because I REALLY like the sound of all three of these pedals... I've got the British Sound, the AC Tone, and of course, the American Sound, but they are PAINFULLY noisy.
You know what? I was trying it out again last night and I did notice the volume has to be very high abs there’s a lot of noise. I may opt to replace it with something else.
Hi folks, trust everyone is well, I have a question on amps that this pedal would benefit the most from possibly solid state/modelling amps?... I have a Catalyst 100 watt home/recording use on lower wattage some jam sessions with buddies in local public halls to get the best out of the full range of the wattage so I would like to ask anyone if they would know if this wee pedal would work well with an amp like the Catalyst 100watt, I have a Boss OD-200 pedal which is great with the catalyst but there's always something that seems to be missing. I'm searching for tube pedal for the clean channel/chime/boutique amp models with compression right at the start if the chain and modulation and delay in the FX loop on the amp. So I like the sound of this and looked on amazon but the only one available was the Oxford one... any thoughts I'd much appreciate constructive criticism, advice, anything would be helpful I like to gather information from both sides of any argument before committing to buy. Ta much folks. Btw thanks for making this video it's been very informative and adding to the list of saved vids.
Hey Mike. Fort off thx for the comment. To try and answer your question the first thing I’d say is I don’t really see the need for an amp in a box pedal with a modeling amp. The idea of this pedal is to model various fender amps. If you want to sound like a fender you’d just set the catalyst to clean and set the EQ to taste no? You mention you generally feel like there is something missing. Can you elaborate? You also mention you want to get a tube pedal to run in the front of the catalyst. Again it’d help to know what you think is missing that a tube pedal is going to help? You also mention that you want to put the tube pedal at the front of the chain and you plan on running the catalyst clean if I’m understanding correctly. And then running mod and delay in the loop. Unless you are using amp distortion to a significant degree there is no need to have the hassle with cables of running anything in the loop.
@@TheGuitarEffect I'm always experimenting with pedals to achieve new lush sounds and to improve on existing amp models rather than just sticking with the introduction to the potential of any amp... so there's always something missing in that respect, although the catalyst is a fine amp with some good models in there with less risk of option paralysis happening, still- one good pedal, like that I've never heard of or used myself could bring something new to the table this is in terms of new tones where my focus is aimed at in broadening my grasp on the way amps work plus to find a really good pedal whatever it is, and, it not being an insane price for just a few circuit boards diods resistors and a tin Box well I'm all for that way more so than forking out for major disappointment, I don't subscribe to the nonsense of "if it costs more then it must be better!" Kinda con Crap, this is part reason why I reached out about this one.
@@TheGuitarEffect plus there must some sort of rule of thumb like when achieving different tones with tube amps while recording for the sake of having an optimal bass eq and overall setup for most drive pedals for convenience and less faffing to get a tone set before pushing the tubes, but on a dit state combo/modelling amp they respond differently to boosts and drives, so I'm currently working on finding that sweet spot on all 6 amp models for the catalyst for this reason while recording for ease of switching pedals or stacking etc, and I hope you don't mind I have a habit of picking experienced players minds on these subjects to gather know how to try out thd how and the why instead of just copying a patch where nothings learned and its just relying on someone to do the hard work to get a decent tone when i can ask the how and the why. Smart ppl ask questions- as my mamma always a told me! Variety is the spice etc but the real genius is when you can make something that appears to be complex seem simple. Narrowing down what makes what amp behave and perform so well when done right there's has ro be a rule of thumb for each type of pedal to amp in each setting and application to put to use. Tube amps are not always so easy to get that great tone! They often bottom out and fall apart when the basics aren't followed. Noisy too but that's part of the iconic sound, where the catalyst can be noise cancelled by switching of ghe hum and using the gate, same with the OD-200 pedal
@@TheGuitarEffecttube amps half decent enough are easier to achieve the sound missing of warmth and saturation warmth of tone can be achieved on a solid state amp too i know this for sure and that can be accomplished by using a compressor I'm waiting for one in the post I'd the Ryal mail would get the finger out I would know by now, but if there us an very affordable pedal like this one you're demoing I'd like to know if you're using a tube amp or solid state with this pedal? And if you can share can wisdom on what I'm asking about- does it even make any difference using tube or tube sim pedals pre amp stage straight into a solid state or If you don't that's no problem, there are so many to choose from therefore so many possibilities and opinions, I'm open to new info my natural shit filter will sort the rest out if need be.
@@TheGuitarEffect the idea with running effects like modulation and delay through the the fx loop was with the catalyst these can be assigned pre or post and do aiming for a good strong and grwat drive tone on both clean and with a little breakup like how tubes behave touch responsive, to get that sorted at the input straight into pre amp stage done first then assigned to an fx loop assigned fx-post both channels would be balanced and also less affected before the preamp stage by the fx therefore pushing through the fx without the fx altering the signal chain before it gets to main input would in my theory be (this is just my theory, open to constructive criticism I welcome it but j will try it out too) clearer and leave more headroom also better quality for recording- these are things I am beginning to consider as I'm not an expert I can think technically being snd engineer I'd love to take up sound engineering courses.
Hi. Would this pedal be suitable in front of a mult effects unit as a substitute for the units only clean amp sim (FDR Clean) which doesn't sound great. My basic guitar tone is Fender Clean with a touch of reverb (Reggae player) with occasional effects. Thanks
First of all don't laugh! I've never dabbled with single pedals, always used MFX. Now money is no object so I've tried and tried to upgrade many times but I keep sticking with my first ever unit because I simply cannot find anything that sounds better to me. Line 6, Boss, Digitech, Mooer etc, I've tried them all but nothing comes close, to my .......Zoom G1! Its perfect. However I have a quirky purple GFX1 that sounds almost as good but with a poor amp sim for clean. I'd really like to use this due to the switching options but it just doesn't compare to the G1 due to the only clean amp sim on it being somewhat harsh and I can't dial it out. Switching it off doesn't help either.
Hey Mudman. Thx for the comment. Yeah it’s a little noisy at higher gain settings however this isn’t a problem really abs that noise get lost in a mix. It’s not problematically noisy at lower gain settings though and records well.
Hey. Thx for the comment. So it’s a very interesting and regularly asked question. Officially it doesn’t have a cab sim. But it’s supposedly voiced to be suitable for direct use and use in front of an amp. I find it’s much better with some sort of cab sim. But a lot of people use it direct. But to answer your question it doesn’t have a cab sim.
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you for the answer, IT makes me think in another question as result, you would pay 250 for tech 21 blonde but not 100 for american sound, it mean you feel the joyo (in quality terms) is not a 100 dollars pedal but yes 250 for the blonde?
I don’t really think of it like that. I wouldn’t pay €250 for any pedal. No way. Unless it’s a multi effect like an MS3 or a HX effects or something. I rarely buy gear new as used gear is waaaay better value. The blonde is a better sounding quieter pedal I think. So therefore it costs more. I wouldn’t pay €100 for the American sound because it doesn’t cost that. At €30 it’s a handy way of getting fender tones from a non fender amp occasionally. If I wanted fender tones as my core tones I’d play through a fender amp. Know what I mean?
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you again for your kindly and explicit answer. The cost of the american sound is near 35 dollars (amazon today) the tech 21 blonde is near 250, I understand, about your point of view, neither that the tech 21 do not have 250 dlrs of value although it cost it, nor the american sound joyo would cost 100 dlrs, only in quality terms, cost/value relation. 👍🏻
@@TheGuitarEffect oh thank god man thanks for your answer, so you mean that I could still use my gain and every other thing while this thing plugged in
Hmm. You could use your gain but it would be computed by the pedal. Unless you mean gain pedals as opposed to gain from the amp. Delay and mod effects won’t be affected though
If you can find a good price on one, the out of production RV-600 has a very respectable Fender Spring algorithm as well as 8 others. I use that going into something like the American Sound to mimic the sound of those Fender reverbs.
Great vid Rob! These are such great sounding and flexible pedals for so little money. Every guitarist should have one in their bag of tools, Jim (IG badass_and_thrifty)
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These are great pedals, I run a pair of them as a stereo rig straight into an audio interface for recording. I just wanted to add another perspective regarding the range of the Voice control. To my ears, the setting around 9 o'clock is much more like a Twin Reverb, deeply mid scooped and brittle in the top end and fairly ugly when driven. This morphs into a blackface Deluxe up around 11 o'clock, still mid scooped but much friendlier and warmer with some drive. Things get brown or blonde from about 1 0'clock and then fully tweed at 3 o'clock, where the mid scoop has all but disappeared. Beyond that is nothing like most Fender amps, so your SuperSonic reference is a good call! This all makes the Voice control a powerful walk through Fender's amp history!
That’s actually a bang on description of the character control. Nicely done. Thx for the comment.
I play Yamaha Pac strats, and love the ZOOM G2 Twin-style( with ZOOM EQuing...), so I dig the scooped rather than the midhump!! as the basics! buying one of these back for my Jazz tone!! A Marvel ped fo 30€ sec hand!!
I got one of these pedals recently and couldn't believe how good it sounded, it's now on my pedalboard running into my clean Vox ac15 and it sounds fantastic
Hey Daniel. Thanks for the comment. Yeah they are a really great tool to have around. Very useful.
I run one into Roland Jazz chorus and it sounds like a twin when I need it. Great value for such a good circuit.
Hey Gowen. Thx for the comment. That’s interesting. How does a bass chorus sound differ from a twin sound.
Can you get it to make single notes have that nice gravely sound? I'm trying to get that old blues harmonica sound but only does it on two or more notes, not single notes. Does a chorus help do that? I'm thinking it might as would be like duel notes
I have a Caline American Sound (same idea), and it is being used in front of a Marshall Origin 50H, and provides so much more tone shaping than the mamp on its own. Furthermore, many amps, like Marshalls are very midrange focused, and this pedal really does an amazing job providing Fender character. Cheap pedal, but don't be fooled by cost because they really do an amazing job. I am running mine last in the chain too, with the "Voice" character knob to the left- sure takes out the honkines of the Marshall mid-bump. Love it! Nice job on this video.
Hey Tommy. Thx for the comment. Yeah it really is a very impressive pedal. The character knob makes it very versatile.
I plug it into the power amp in of my katana mkii and it sounds great. Best 30 bucks I've ever spent. Like you said, the eq is very sensitive which makes it very versatile even beyond the different voice options.
Hey. Thx for the comment. Yeah I keep coming back to this pedal. It’s bloody great. So capable think I’m gonna get the AC one again abs use it for my AC sound.
Hi so being a big contender to the catalyst the katana mkII solid state- it works well for the clean fender deluxe type tones? Marshall plexi/jvm?
Just got mine and really love how it transforms my amp tone. For a classic Fender Deluxe Reverby sound, into an amp, would I put my combo reverb/Trem pedal before or after the Joyo?
@@BobEstremera the common view is that reverb goes after gain, but that's not necessarily true always imo. I think even in the real amp where the reverb is located in the circuit is more complicated than just either before or after the gain stage. So, as they say, I'd just trust my ears. As for tremolo I think most people put it after gain, but I use before the joyo because it interacts nicely with the gain when set just slightly above edge-of-breakup.
Best demo of this pedal that I’ve seen! 👍
Wow. Thx so much. That’s lovely to hear.
This was a perfect demonstration of the pedal. Thank you.
Thanks Aaabii. If you enjoyed the video. Maybe check out some of my other content and if you enjoy it subscribe. I’ve a competition running at the minute to win a pedal too.
Thank you for running it thru a IR sim.....most people don't seem to realize how much better it sounds when going direct and putting a cab sim after it ..I like putting a 4x12 cab sim after it when going direct into a DAW....👍🎉😁
Hey M R. Thx for the comment. I think it absolutely benefits from speaker sim. In fact I did a demo of this pedal direct and I used it with a cab sim.
I just bought this pedal. I luv it. 👍
Hey Oliver thx for the comment. Happy Jew pedal day. I actually just put a second video about this pedal up yesterday. Check it out.
I just bought my second one…..
Great demo!! Been using this pedal for a years for direct recording & really happy about it.
Thx mate. I’ve actually recently done another demo of it using it direct with the mooer cab sim DI box. Might be of interest.
It really is an amazing pedal.
@@TheGuitarEffect Wil check it out my friend thanks 🙏🙏👍👍
@@TheGuitarEffectso it won't blow up my focusrite 2i4 interface? Preamp into preamp? I'd like to use for direct recording but afraid to harm interface ... thanks!
Very well done!
Thx for the kind words! Ice two more videos about this pedal in my channel if it’s of particular interest to you.
Oh craps!! These had pretty great prices at amazon prime day, I wish I checked out that video earlier :)) Anyway - still a great value for a price. Thanks man!
Hey. Thanks for the comment. I think it can always be found used for absolute peanuts. Check free ads pages where you are at. Great pedal this. Really useful
Oh shoot, what were they going for? I just picked up 3. I have a sick obsession about finding out how much I overpaid for stuff. Oughff.
I just bought one on Reverb for $30 (local pickup, no shipping).
Great video Rob, super detailed and really helpful.
Thx Tony. Glad you found it useful. Amazing pedal.
Thanks for this. I've been looking at these for a minute
Glad you enjoyed it. They are a really handy pedal to have around.
@@TheGuitarEffect I'm sold !
This sounds pretty good at higher gain and voicing levels. I've actually never tried it like that.
Yep. It’s also a very respectable medium gain preamp too. A bit noisy on those sounds but manageable
I am on my second one. I gave my first one to my cousin to use for gigging. I haven’t really used it much until recently.
A friend and I are working on putting together an acoustic duo, so I finally broke down and bought an accoustic amp for that purpose. For grins I tried running the Joyo AS into my new Loudbox mini. It sounded surprisingly good!
Now I can do small venue solo acoustic gigs, or play electric lead and do backing vocals with my buddy. I need to try setting it up with my A/B switch to see if I can switch from acoustic to electric on the fly!
Hey Brian! I am also on my second one!
If you are looking to use acoustic and electric sounds simultaneously or A/B ing between them check out my 72 Tele video. I’ve tried every kind of hybrid setup and this is the best I’ve found.
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Dooood! FINALLY...been searching everywhere to see if this is possible. Don’t wanna blow out my loudbox speaker, so it held up ok?
I bought one on Reverb a few days ago. Still haven't gotten a good useful sound from it, but I only used it once so far for about 2 hours.
Hey Mr D. Obviously liking a pedal is completely subjective but are you using it direct or into the front of an amp?
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I tried it through the effects loop of a Marshall Valvestate with an Epiphone Les Paul. I will try it next through a Peavey Bandit. However, I've noticed that just about everyone on RUclips is playing a Stratocaster or Tele through it. Does one have to use a single coil guitar to get a decent sound?
I can’t actually remember trying it with a Les Paul ever but I can’t see why it would sound bad necessarily.
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I tried it today with a Peavey and it sounded much better, even with the Les Paul. With the Marshall it just sounded like crap. So, now at least I know how to get useful sounds out of it, with a different amp :). Thanks for writing back, I appreciate it. Happy Holidays and New Year to you and your family.
Cool. Glad to hear it. Same to you mate
I Really enjoy&like your video!
I also use it in front of my amp to sculpt my clean tone…and I have a 40 watts Fender Hot Rod Deluxe version 3 in my studio and a version 4 in my apt and, believe or not,it adds punch 🥊 and clarity (even more)to the existing original clean tone who came in with the amps.🤷🏻♂️
In my pedalboard chain I put it after all my overdrives and distortion pedals but before my 2 delays and my digital reverb!
Of course I use it to record straight to my interface going to the computer and it’s fantastic!
Probably this is one of the most powerful tools I ever bought for less than 40$….it’s awesome!
I highly recommend it to every guitarist for recording or live!
Hey MD music. Thx for your comment. I reckon the pedal could be really useful with the hot Rod amps for both making them sound like blackface cleans or tweed breakup. So I totally get where you are coming from.
I agree totally for the money and the tone sculpting power they have everyone should have one.
Thanks again mate.
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I use mine for direct recording through a Focusrite 2i2 but add effects in the DAW to take away the sterile sound. I’m going to buy a Joyo Cab Box ir to run it through.
Hey Roy Boy. Thx for the comment. I watched a demo of the little NUX IR loader pedal recently. Actually seems to sound great and is pretty affordable. The Joyo one is very fully featured though.
Great stuff!
Cheers. 👍
Love this pedal but with the drive anything over about 11 o'clock the hiss is very noticible. I go straight into a PA for live. Just ordered a Mooer micro DI cab sim as per on of you other videos.
Hey. Thx for the comment. Yeah it’s a great pedal. I think the DI box Will particularly make a difference with the brittle height end when the gain is cranked but to be fair one of the most amazing things about the American sound is how well it takes pedals.
Great video. I have a Fender LT25 modeling amp. One of the amp options is a completely super clean ‘un-modeled’ amp. Will this pedal work with that?
Hey. Yeah it would colour the sound of the amp to be like a fender. If your amp has an effects loop it would sound good plugged into the effects return too
I've got both the UA Ruby and Dream '65 - I've gone back to the Joyo pedals (AC Tone + American Sound) can't say they are a downgrade. The built-in cab sim that supposedly these pedals have is just an EQ curve applied but to call it 'cab sim' is a disservice. To get the most out of these pedals just stick a Cab IR loader at the end. Loving the Flamma FS07 because it is a stereo cab IR loader so I stick the AC Tone into L and the American Sound into R jacks (pick a cab for each channel to match each pedal: Ownhammer IRs) and we have tone for days
Hey Quicksilver. That’s really interesting. Those pedals look amazing but are extremely expensive. I recently got the IR200 from boss and it’s very impressive. But is it night and day ahead if the American sound for a fender sim. No. Not really. I agree completely about the speaker sim thing too. It benefits hugely from an external speaker sim of some sort
@@TheGuitarEffect I kinda re-discovered these pedals recently. I've had these pedals, like everyone else, for quite some years now (mine are the Harley Benton re-badges) I put together a sort of afford-a-board together using Mooer/Tone City pedals and man I am loving these tones. I am not using an amp - just straight from pedals and cab sim to audio interface. I haven't missed the UA pedals at all with this "affordable" setup. BTW, loving the channel and currently catching up with previously-released content :) keep them videos coming!
Hey quicksilver. I actually have an episode where I built a board with only Caline pedals and they were really impressive. I really enjoy finding new sounds from budget gear. I’m not really a player who has to have the newest most expensive gear available at all. I don’t really think that philosophy has much to do with music to be honest.
Thx so much for your kind words about the channel I really enjoy making the vids. Though my band is starting to get busy now so it’s getting a bit harder to do one every week.
I use that pedal as an almost clean boost on Manouche gigs (on Selmer Style acoustic guitar). The one issue I have with it is the knobs always move themselves around in transit (even in a box). Oh, and sometimes I accidentally change knob positions with my shoe when engaging/disengaging it. I wish they were slightly stiffer. Great pedal though! I think mine is a Harley Benton.
It’s a handy thing to have around for sure.
Joyo, Ammoon and Harley Benton are all different "brands" of the same company. I was even noticing some Joyo listings on Amazon displayed Ammoon pedals. Some of this is regional (Harley Benton seemed to be sold in Europe, but was the same as Joyo), or it may just be rebranding for one reason or another, but a LOT of the Chinese pedals share circuitry and parts.
Hey Troy. Thx for the comment. You’re exactly right. As far as I know Harley Benton is only produced for thomann. The rest of the brands just sell the same product with a different logo and sometimes a different paint scheme.
Great review. Question: if you run one of these into an amp (not through fx loop), would the cab/amp sim feature be an issue?
Hey. Thanks for the comment. So yes it does work in that capacity as a distortion pedal at higher gain or to give your clean sound a fender feel and sound at lower settings. My first video on ten pedal was about that exactly. Joyo American Sound - Turn your amp into a fender!
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Great I was just thinking about buying the Harley Benton version of this
HB one is the exact same. I highly recommend this pedal.
Can i plug this directly into the PA without a cabsim or DI box for live shows? Along with my other pedals. Trying to go ampless for live shows pls help
Hi Ahmad. Yes you can use just the American sound. You’d ideally have a di box to convert the signal to line level and if you are going to get a DI box get the mooer one so you have the can sim. But you don’t technically need it
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you for the prompt response. I'm not looking to buy a cabsim or a di box atm thats why I wanted to ask you if i could plug it directly into the PA along with all my other pedals. My chain would be PA->American Sound->reverb->delay->chorus->distortion->compressor->noisegate->tuner
Yeah it should sound OK.
Is this the same as the Joyo American Sound? I assume yes. Do these include a speaker cab simulation. I know not on a switch, but always on internally? I've read that it does. I have this pedal, I like recording with it, and have used it for a church gig as a clean preamp direct into a di into the mixer into the pa. Wondering though, if it's really got that cab sim, as I picked up a di with a cab sim, which I used, though it added a lot of hiss, but I'm not so knowledgeable about the various historical cabinets, and the sonic fingerprint they impart? Honestly, I'm happy enough without a cab sim in the mix, my ear doesn't seem to have that expectation, but my concern others will or do have that ear expectation... opinions?
Hey alpha numeric. Thanks for the comment. Yep. Exactly the and pedal as a Joyo American sound. I’m not sure whether it has a cab sim on board but it does sound OK going direct for recording as I showed in the video. Far better with an impulse response added.
With regard to whether you need the cab sim DI box, if it sounds good to you without it then it should sound good to the audience right?
However it f you are getting his try hitting the ground life switch on the DI it might get rid of the hiss.
@@TheGuitarEffect Ground lift had no effect. The American Sound is the hissiest pedal I own. Then the Fish and Chips, then the Boss CS-3. But the American Sound is the hissiest, especially if I try to get it back up to unity gain.
But the American Sound then into the DI which added to the hiss, THEN the cab sim added even more hiss. My rig is as close as dead quiet as I could hope. No real issues at all (I have had a little digital pedal powersupply noise, but it's not an issue in current incarnation) with noise, absolutely no need for a noise gate. But the American Sound, really does bring the noise, so to speak. I can't tell if it's by design, like trying to emulate a jacked amp? I don't know. I wish I knew the Tech 21 pedal this is a clone of. I'd like to know if that pedal is equally as noisy. Or if in Joyo's cloning they've spec'ed a component poorly, or cut a corner in some way in the circuit that has caused this excessive noise?
I wonder.
In your vid, the noise is overwhelming as well. I've got some pedals that I consider hi gain, though in this insane music world that we're in now, they would likely be classed as midgain, but even those pedals pretty close to dimed are WAY quieter than the Joyo American sound at timid settings of drive and voice. So, I don't know what it is... I wonder if I could mod it, get some better filter capacitor in there or something to clean the hiss up, or some quieter op amp, or a better bias on the op amp? I just don't know enough about circuit design to really dig in like that, and I'm just too poor to brick out a pedal as important and as useful as the American Sound. And I don't have time for nerding around. Ax time is too valuable to be spending it a with soldering iron in my hand. Even though, I've been spending a lot more time than I'd like, like that. Damn Supro guitars. Well built, but spec'ed out with the damn cheapest components. Didn't even use copper wire in these guitars. Is that the norm nowadays for $1,000+ guitars? If so, I'm leaving the planet. That aluminium wire bullsh!t should be declared by retailers, so we can avoid unworkable gear. I mean these goid foil pickups are sealed, with aluminium wire coming out. Holy cow, I'm just properly ranting now. The frustration is real.
And apologies for my original comment up there. You addressed most of my questions in the vid, I just started the vid, and barfed out all these questions that have been swirling around in my head about this pedal. Apologies, and cheers for the vid.
@@alphanumeric1529 Hey man. for me noise is just a part of playing gainy sounds. You just use your volume knob to turn the guitar down when you aren't playing. I can't be dealing with the high pitched sound of a mis matched power supply for a pedal alright but I don't mind a bit of noise on a higher gain sound. And no probs about the questions. I very much welcome them.
@@TheGuitarEffect Thing is, I have... I'm not even going to count, but quite a few pedals that are far gainer, and absolutely far quieter. The American Sound needs to be fairly well cranked just to get back up to unity gain. All of my mid/hi gain pedals are silent, like SILENT at unity. I can't even tell if they're on.
The Tech21 Blonde, the pedal that the American Sound is a clone of, is it really noisy as well? This is so loud I almost think it has to be intentional, like they're trying to create amp hiss? OR, I'm wondering if Joyo or whomever really makes these, if they used a less expensive component or left out a piece of the OG circuit making the American Sound is excessively noisy?
I'd like to know, because I'd mod the pedals in a second, if it's a matter of a component or two that needs to be swapped for a higher quality component. SMT, I don't care, I'll take my chances because I REALLY like the sound of all three of these pedals... I've got the British Sound, the AC Tone, and of course, the American Sound, but they are PAINFULLY noisy.
You know what? I was trying it out again last night and I did notice the volume has to be very high abs there’s a lot of noise. I may opt to replace it with something else.
Hi folks, trust everyone is well, I have a question on amps that this pedal would benefit the most from possibly solid state/modelling amps?... I have a Catalyst 100 watt home/recording use on lower wattage some jam sessions with buddies in local public halls to get the best out of the full range of the wattage so I would like to ask anyone if they would know if this wee pedal would work well with an amp like the Catalyst 100watt, I have a Boss OD-200 pedal which is great with the catalyst but there's always something that seems to be missing. I'm searching for tube pedal for the clean channel/chime/boutique amp models with compression right at the start if the chain and modulation and delay in the FX loop on the amp. So I like the sound of this and looked on amazon but the only one available was the Oxford one... any thoughts I'd much appreciate constructive criticism, advice, anything would be helpful I like to gather information from both sides of any argument before committing to buy. Ta much folks.
Btw thanks for making this video it's been very informative and adding to the list of saved vids.
Hey Mike. Fort off thx for the comment. To try and answer your question the first thing I’d say is I don’t really see the need for an amp in a box pedal with a modeling amp. The idea of this pedal is to model various fender amps. If you want to sound like a fender you’d just set the catalyst to clean and set the EQ to taste no?
You mention you generally feel like there is something missing. Can you elaborate?
You also mention you want to get a tube pedal to run in the front of the catalyst. Again it’d help to know what you think is missing that a tube pedal is going to help?
You also mention that you want to put the tube pedal at the front of the chain and you plan on running the catalyst clean if I’m understanding correctly. And then running mod and delay in the loop. Unless you are using amp distortion to a significant degree there is no need to have the hassle with cables of running anything in the loop.
@@TheGuitarEffect I'm always experimenting with pedals to achieve new lush sounds and to improve on existing amp models rather than just sticking with the introduction to the potential of any amp... so there's always something missing in that respect, although the catalyst is a fine amp with some good models in there with less risk of option paralysis happening, still- one good pedal, like that I've never heard of or used myself could bring something new to the table this is in terms of new tones where my focus is aimed at in broadening my grasp on the way amps work plus to find a really good pedal whatever it is, and, it not being an insane price for just a few circuit boards diods resistors and a tin Box well I'm all for that way more so than forking out for major disappointment, I don't subscribe to the nonsense of "if it costs more then it must be better!" Kinda con Crap, this is part reason why I reached out about this one.
@@TheGuitarEffect plus there must some sort of rule of thumb like when achieving different tones with tube amps while recording for the sake of having an optimal bass eq and overall setup for most drive pedals for convenience and less faffing to get a tone set before pushing the tubes, but on a dit state combo/modelling amp they respond differently to boosts and drives, so I'm currently working on finding that sweet spot on all 6 amp models for the catalyst for this reason while recording for ease of switching pedals or stacking etc, and I hope you don't mind I have a habit of picking experienced players minds on these subjects to gather know how to try out thd how and the why instead of just copying a patch where nothings learned and its just relying on someone to do the hard work to get a decent tone when i can ask the how and the why.
Smart ppl ask questions- as my mamma always a told me! Variety is the spice etc but the real genius is when you can make something that appears to be complex seem simple.
Narrowing down what makes what amp behave and perform so well when done right there's has ro be a rule of thumb for each type of pedal to amp in each setting and application to put to use. Tube amps are not always so easy to get that great tone! They often bottom out and fall apart when the basics aren't followed. Noisy too but that's part of the iconic sound, where the catalyst can be noise cancelled by switching of ghe hum and using the gate, same with the OD-200 pedal
@@TheGuitarEffecttube amps half decent enough are easier to achieve the sound missing of warmth and saturation warmth of tone can be achieved on a solid state amp too i know this for sure and that can be accomplished by using a compressor I'm waiting for one in the post I'd the Ryal mail would get the finger out I would know by now, but if there us an very affordable pedal like this one you're demoing I'd like to know if you're using a tube amp or solid state with this pedal? And if you can share can wisdom on what I'm asking about- does it even make any difference using tube or tube sim pedals pre amp stage straight into a solid state or If you don't that's no problem, there are so many to choose from therefore so many possibilities and opinions, I'm open to new info my natural shit filter will sort the rest out if need be.
@@TheGuitarEffect the idea with running effects like modulation and delay through the the fx loop was with the catalyst these can be assigned pre or post and do aiming for a good strong and grwat drive tone on both clean and with a little breakup like how tubes behave touch responsive, to get that sorted at the input straight into pre amp stage done first then assigned to an fx loop assigned fx-post both channels would be balanced and also less affected before the preamp stage by the fx therefore pushing through the fx without the fx altering the signal chain before it gets to main input would in my theory be (this is just my theory, open to constructive criticism I welcome it but j will try it out too) clearer and leave more headroom also better quality for recording- these are things I am beginning to consider as I'm not an expert I can think technically being snd engineer I'd love to take up sound engineering courses.
Hi. Would this pedal be suitable in front of a mult effects unit as a substitute for the units only clean amp sim (FDR Clean) which doesn't sound great. My basic guitar tone is Fender Clean with a touch of reverb (Reggae player) with occasional effects.
Thanks
Hey Tony what amp are you playing through?
@@TheGuitarEffect straight to PA system from my MFX. I ditched the amp a few years ago.
Ok cool what multieffect is it and what effects do you mostly use? I’m assuming chorus, reverb and slap back delay right if it’s reggae?
First of all don't laugh!
I've never dabbled with single pedals, always used MFX. Now money is no object so I've tried and tried to upgrade many times but I keep sticking with my first ever unit because I simply cannot find anything that sounds better to me. Line 6, Boss, Digitech, Mooer etc, I've tried them all but nothing comes close, to my .......Zoom G1! Its perfect.
However I have a quirky purple GFX1 that sounds almost as good but with a poor amp sim for clean. I'd really like to use this due to the switching options but it just doesn't compare to the G1 due to the only clean amp sim on it being somewhat harsh and I can't dial it out. Switching it off doesn't help either.
Ok. Thanks. First off. Nothing wrong or laughable about Zoom Gear. They’ve been around for a very long time.
Could you use this on an amp designed for acoustic guitars? Wanna dirty up my tone from time to time, doing solo acoustic gigs
Hey Norman. I answered your other comment. Thx
@@TheGuitarEffect sorry! Ha...I sent those both at the same time
Nice tones, but there seems to be a lot of background noise when the gain or voice is turned past 12 o'clock. How does this work for recording?
Hey Mudman. Thx for the comment. Yeah it’s a little noisy at higher gain settings however this isn’t a problem really abs that noise get lost in a mix. It’s not problematically noisy at lower gain settings though and records well.
Good question, I'm finding mine a bit noisy too.
Hi, can you use it into the input of a clean amp?
Hey yes you can. I actually have a video about that called turn your amp into a fender. You’ll find it in my videos.
Has it got CabSim & if so can it be turned off?
Hey. Thx for the comment. So it’s a very interesting and regularly asked question. Officially it doesn’t have a cab sim. But it’s supposedly voiced to be suitable for direct use and use in front of an amp. I find it’s much better with some sort of cab sim. But a lot of people use it direct. But to answer your question it doesn’t have a cab sim.
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what does the level knob do?
Increases and decreases the level. In the middle it’s level and if you turn it it tilts the pedal.
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Please, if the price would be 100 dollars for this pedal, would you pay it?
Hey Bahio DJ. No. I wouldn’t. You could probably buy a second hand tech 21 blonde for close to $100
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you for the answer, IT makes me think in another question as result, you would pay 250 for tech 21 blonde but not 100 for american sound, it mean you feel the joyo (in quality terms) is not a 100 dollars pedal but yes 250 for the blonde?
I don’t really think of it like that. I wouldn’t pay €250 for any pedal. No way. Unless it’s a multi effect like an MS3 or a HX effects or something. I rarely buy gear new as used gear is waaaay better value. The blonde is a better sounding quieter pedal I think. So therefore it costs more. I wouldn’t pay €100 for the American sound because it doesn’t cost that. At €30 it’s a handy way of getting fender tones from a non fender amp occasionally. If I wanted fender tones as my core tones I’d play through a fender amp. Know what I mean?
@@TheGuitarEffect thank you again for your kindly and explicit answer.
The cost of the american sound is near 35 dollars (amazon today) the tech 21 blonde is near 250, I understand, about your point of view, neither that the tech 21 do not have 250 dlrs of value although it cost it, nor the american sound joyo would cost 100 dlrs, only in quality terms, cost/value relation.
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@@bahiodj5566 Smart question! Nice
Hi, can i use joyo american sound as transparent od?
Hey. No you can’t really. That’s not it purpose at all. If you are looking for a transparent overdrive on a budget get the Joyo roll boost.
guys please answer this...when I plug this in to my amps clean tone, i also can use the effects on amp right?like delay reverb?
Hey waytoss. Yes you absolutely can still use the effects on your amp. They’ll work fine
@@TheGuitarEffect oh thank god man thanks for your answer, so you mean that I could still use my gain and every other thing while this thing plugged in
Hmm. You could use your gain but it would be computed by the pedal. Unless you mean gain pedals as opposed to gain from the amp. Delay and mod effects won’t be affected though
@@TheGuitarEffect I wanted to mean that , if the gain on this pedal is not enough for me, I could just turn it up from my amp
What is your amp in this video please?
Hey. Thx for the comment it’s the Koch Studiotone 20
@@TheGuitarEffect very good tone 👍
Cheers! I use that amp for every video and a lot of gigs
Lacking spring reverb for surf
Sorry are you saying the pedal lacks spring reverb for surf or my video lacks spring reverb for surf?
@@TheGuitarEffect well, both
I think asking for a spring reverb emulation on a pedal at this price point would be unreasonable
If you can find a good price on one, the out of production RV-600 has a very respectable Fender Spring algorithm as well as 8 others. I use that going into something like the American Sound to mimic the sound of those Fender reverbs.
Great vid Rob! These are such great sounding and flexible pedals for so little money. Every guitarist should have one in their bag of tools, Jim (IG badass_and_thrifty)
Hey Jim. Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed the video. This series of pedals really is astonishing value for money.
I'm starting to get really 'pissed' - as the Americans say - with being asked to 'like and subscribe' even before I've watched the video.
If I like it, I will 'like' it, if I think the channel is worth following I will 'subscribe'.
It comes across as 'needy' and pathetic.
Thx. I will endeavor to dial up the neediness and patheticness.