A so underrated demo video!!! Content are nicely arranged with great playing. Got all I wanted to know about this pedal and decided I still need a cab sim for this pedal
I'm a former pro session player and I think that you did a great job here. I discovered that I had this pedal in my collection. But I haven't tried it before today, and I think you are spot on with this review :) And god tasty guitar playing for this demo btw. And agree I turned up the Drive with the Voice on two o'clock and with my 1958 Les Paul, instant Iggy Pop. And even though I'm not into Iggy Pop today, I'm stunned over how this pedal can be so great.
I fancy this pedal after your clear explanation and settings. many thanks. I have a Mex Stratocaster that has been set up well and a Laney LC30 - 112 (2009) Class A British valve amp with a true spring reverb built in. This amp is already designed on the the clean channel to be Fender / Vox 60's like (Marshall on the drive channel) and it has the FX loop function to bypass the amps' pre-amp section. It comes with a 12" Celestion seventy 80 as stock (like a DSL Marshall - at £650) although I can run it to a twin / quatro cab if I wish - plenty of power in a 30W with 8 premium valves. I have a genuine Ibanez TS9DX to lift the Strat's fairly thin pickup output - the DX features the TS9 circuit/tone and then various modes to boost this although I like to keep it clean and not colour the guitars own classic Fender tone. I will set the Laney up neutral on its own EQ per channel and try it with the pedal in front also, and with the bright switch on and off. I will try a little delay and tremelo also as you have suggested (Boss pedals). Would be lovely to get to a nice 60's style Tweed sound which I think is pretty much what Clapton likes these days (at home at least). I will come back with a video if I can find the time to set up etc. Appreciate your post.
Hey that is a nice set-up! I've been wanting to try some Laney amps for a while, but never had the chance. Strats and tube screamers are always a great match! Try placing this pedal in the FX loop return of your amp. The pedal already lifts the sound of the guitar quite a bit and adds a lot of color, so it is usually not suited for going into another preamp section... but give it a try with the EQ set flat and it may work. Let me know how you like it!
@@TheBedroomRocker1 - Many thanks and you are welcome. Like the Marshall JTM45 before it, this model in the Laney range was an attempt to re-capture a 60's Fender / Vox style of amp and tone with a single 12" Celestion although it will output to a twin Jensen or Celestion cab easily with the ports on the rear, so potentially more like the Bluesbreaker or Fender Twin tone / output if you wish. From what I have read Laney were trying to keep it portable for gigging although with enough power to drive a stack if that was your need. Which is probably why they built it around a single speaker in the combo version (there was a head only version). By the revision 3 model (2009) that I picked up used, they had added a few extra features such as a bright switch, low / high signal input jacks (handy if you have a low output Fender or Gretsch with Filtertrons), a master tone and volume after the EQ. As stock it has two channels both with their own EQ controls and independent volume and gain control. A 4 valve pre-amp / 4 valve power stage with the FX loop to bypass the former as you suggest. It's biggest trick is that it has a real Accutronics Type 4 spring reverb tank on board inside the cab which is lush. Pics: bit.ly/3hSJY74 bit.ly/3kDfVC1 bit.ly/3hQ94Uc The clean channel is rounded and glassy like a Vox although it will overdrive if you push it with a Gibson / 57's or a Stratocaster with a TS as you suggest. I have a DSL 40C Marshall and as a comparison I would say the Laney is a much warmer / less edgy on the clean channel and it can be still be very LOUD when required. The drive channel is voiced on early Marshall tones which again is no surprise as the box has a 60's vibe throughout. The DSL has more options for overdrive with several modes and works well with a Les Paul or a Fender and a TS - the DSL is pitched as being able to go from 60's Marshall Blues to outright metal warp factor 10 and it certainly doesn't disappoint on that side but I would say the Laney has a more pleasing and flexible clean channel. Interestingly they both use a Celestion seventy / 80 12" speaker and the valves are close - DSL 4 x ECC83 PRE / 2 x Matched EL34 POW and the Laney 4 x ECC83 PRE / Matched quad set of EL84 POW The Laney is certainly my favourite for clean tones and is a lighter box for gigging. As you can guess with me posting here on your review, I have purchased an HB American pedal and I am interested to see how close I can get the Laney to 60's Fender Tweed / Princeton type tone with the Strat but also looking to put an ES hollow body type guitar through it to see if it will clean up the hum-buckers for a warm, driven but not overly distorted clean lead tone (on a Gibson). It should be fun trying and much cheaper than the real thing plus you cannot gig your really good kit hard as most regular musicians know - local bars and clubs are not forgiving so I strive to get those classic tones without risking the family silver. I would certainly recommend people to try and find an older Laney like the LC30-112 (other wattages exist including a 100) - I believe that my model is no longer produced / superseded. I picked it up for just £70 used as it needed a service and that included new pre-amp valves and a couple of resistor changes - nothing expensive. The amp itself retailed at around £600 in 2009 so they represent a bargain. The cabinet, front panel and switching / pots are all solid and it is true Class A build internally. Mine has been gigged regularly and it is still in good shape. I will come back with a video if I can once I have had chance to play - best wishes from Guernsey.
I think that the tone was different with the IR, but not necessarily better. You would just need to EQ the pedal a little differently to get a very similar tone, in my opinion.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, I agree that some EQ could help, but in my opinion there's always some harshness or DI-like characteristics with analog cabinet simulations that I dislike. In my opinion IRs generally tend to sound better, give more sound flexibility, and stereo options
That is a hard one. I think the AmpliTube is better for "plug-and-play" as it already has reverb and cabinet simulation. If you use other software or pedals to add these to the AS, then they are pretty much equivalent. AmpliTube is more practical for a computer set-up, but the AS is cheaper and easier to carry around and integrate into a pedal board and with other effects, etc.
Good demo and nice playing! My American Sound have been great for tracking basic demos/song ideas on Logic. Hot take but I felt like I preferred the sound of the stock American Sound than it with IRs.
Thanks for the comment! That is interesting hahah sound/tone is always very subjective and personal. I have been using the American Sound very frequently when I do not want to use an amp, but I usually use IR's or some kind of cabinet simulation with it.
Thanks! That's a great set-up and I'm actually planning to do the same. I've been reading on the NUX Studio IR and Mini Studio, the Mooer Radar, and the Two Notes C.A.B M for that purpose. I've contacted NUX to send me one unit, but I think my channel is still too small for that so they did not even reply... My plan is to make another video with amp-free pedal boards using some of these IR loaders in combination with the Harley Benton TrueTone pedals. I've already made a review on the British Sound as well and I have another one on the AC Tone coming up.
@@TheBedroomRocker1 I have tried Mooer Radar just with Screamer-style pedal and it totally sucks... Much better results I got from plugging tube amp's fx sent to Mooer Radar. But in such case we don't get any mobility... The main significant difference between radar, nux studio and torpedo cab is only in power amp simulation. So I guess, that amp-in-box pedal with basic IR loader can be very nice solution on affordable price
@@Dobrovinskiy Yes, most reviews I've seen tend to favor the power amp simulation on the Nux or specially the Cab M. The main advantage of the Cab M is that you can load 2 mics simultaneously, room reverb, and it comes bundled with excellent IR's from Two Notes developed with Celestion and other major IR providers. But it is indeed the double the price of the others.... for the video with the Harley Benton TrueTone pedals, I would rather use the Nux or the Radar. Think it makes more sense since they're in the same "budget" category.
Hi man! Cool video, this product look really good. I have a question.. i never use a real guitar amp, always put the guitar direct in an andio interface, and use an amp plugin (amplitube or Bias FX) I like fender's emulation on Amplitube, but i want to go and familiar with hardware, so i think buy this HarleyBenton pedal. Can i just plug my guitar in this pedal, go in my audio interface and after, use my pedalboard in Amplitube (chorus, delay reverb, and sometimes Octaver/harmonizer stuff) ? I think it's gonna be a mess, because the HB pedal is an amp simulation, and i dont know if in Amplitube we can just use the pedalboard (and maybe the cab?) but without the simulation head amp? Because it's gonna be an Amp simulation pedal + an amp simulation vst ... i'm totally lost haha.. So if you can help me please. Thanks my friend, and sorry for my bad english, i'm french ^^ Continue your videos!
Hi Koneb, Thanks for the nice comment! Yes, you can definitely do that. For the introduction of this video, I plugged guitar --> HB American Sound --> Audio Interface --> Amplitube (amp simulation turned off, just the reverb on) --> Two Notes Wall of Sound (cabinet simulation). In Amplitube, you can turn all amps and effects on/off, so you can turn the amp off and just use the effects and the cab simulation.
The Bedroom Rocker Thanks a lot for the answer (really fast lol) Ok so i think i gonna go for this solution ... do you think, with this pedal, its gonna sound better than an Amp Simulation Plugin? Oh and i got a last question.. Normally, in a pedalchain effects you put Overdrive, fuzz, modulation delay and reverb pedals before this HB pedal, right ? The HB is the last. But in my case, i will have just the HB pedal, and after in the chain, in amplitube, my fuzz reverb ect... for reverb or delay i think its good, doesn’t matter if they are after thé HB pedal, but what for the fuzz / Overdrive ? Can we put an overdrive pedal (simulation) after the signal processed by the HB pedal ? Thank you a lot.. i hope i’m not too boring lol !
@@koneb1323 I actually really like the sound of the AmpliTube Fender collection. Also, with AmpliTube you have the full chain (effects, amp, cabinet, microphone), while the pedal simulates just the amp. I think the AmpliTube amp simulation is likely better, so I would not recommend the pedal if you are only using it together with AmpliTube. The pedal offers you more mobility for playing live, it's fully analog (no latency from digital converters and signal processing), and it's certainly better to combine with other real effect pedals. As for the effect orders, there's no right or wrong, just the "most usual way". On the real world, you would run any gain pedal before the HB. Modulation really depends on taste. Time-based effects (reverb/delay/tremolo) come after, but this is mostly important if you are using the gain from the HB. I don't think that running digital overdrive/fuzz simulations after the HB would sound/feel nice. I would stick to AmpliTube (full digital) or run a proper analog overdrive/fuzz pedal in front of the HB American Sound and then into AmpliTube for the time-based effects and cab simulations
The Bedroom Rocker Oh ok i see.. its better if i stay with all digital so... i really like fender’s amp too in Amplitube, but i dont know, i’ m not able to make a cool sound with it.. i play most of the time with a clean sound! But the 65 deluxe reverb is too clean (dont really see the différence between the DI raw sound and the sound when i’m in thé 65 deluxe) and the 57 deluxe is too crunch and cold in my opinion.. that’s why when i see this pedal, and the warm sound it gives, i would have liked to buy it! But maybe it’s me, i’m surely a noob with amp simulation 😂 But thank you for all your help and your kindness !
@@koneb1323 Yes, maybe it's a matter of tweaking the amp more. The '65 Deluxe Reverb is indeed clean, but should def sound rounder than the DI, which normally has some annoying edgy sound. The '57 Deluxe has a very particular sound and break-up, which some ppl love and many others don't. One of my first videos here was exactly about AmpliTube and I'm playing the '65 Deluxe Reverb: ruclips.net/video/DcBi-XYV_JI/видео.html Also, if you watch the comparison of this video (3:46) with some nice headphones, you can easily realize that the pedal itself is not very warm and still has some fizzy sound... it's better, but still similar to a DI. To me, the cab simulation is really what made the pedal usable. You may want to try the Two Notes Wall of Sound plug-in as I think they have a free version with a limited number of cabinets and microphones. It has a bit of a steeper learning curve than AmpliTube, but it is one of the best software out there for speaker cabinet simulation using impulse responses. You could use the amp and effect simulations from AmpliTube with the cab turned off, and then use the cab sim from the Wall of Sound
Thank you Marcio! It is some surf rock I came up with. I avoid playing commercial music in my channel because RUclips has been a nightmare with copyrights...
Hi ,I got the American sound, and I'll play it through my amplifer directly in return fx, , I have a pedal reverb, in your opinion where I place the pedal reverb before or after the American sound?
I would place it after the American Sound. Placing reverbs after gain stages usually delivers the clearest sound. However, nothing prevents you from experimenting to see what works out the best ;-)
Thanks for the comment! No, I haven't. I want to try it eventually since I always use the pedal with other cab sims like impulse responses or Two Notes DynIR. Is there an internal switch or does it involve soldering?
To quote Harley Benton's tech support: "it has a slight cab simulation". For clean sounds is not bad, but it's harsh and fizzy with drives. If you put an impulse response cab sim after it, the sound improves dramatically
How does everyone come up with the idea that this pedal generates a Fender amp? Nowhere does it say it's an amp simulator. Just because it's called American Sound? That's nonsense, for me it generates the sound of the American metal bands of the 80's and it's NOT a Fende amp simulation. Just like the British Sound is also not a Marshall amp simulator, but reproduces the sound of the rock bands of the 70s, e.g. Deep Purple. (Hence the colour). If you would like to have an amp simulator pedal from this series, you should get the California Sound, which generates the sound of a MEsa Boogie. or the AC-Tone, which generates the sound of a Vox Ac-30. But the American sound and the British sound do NOT simulate Fender or Marshall amp sounds, they generate the sound of metal rock bands from the USA or GB. Play on the British sound, Smoke on the Water, you will notice that it makes sounds of the bands and does not simulate amps...........
Reverb on my PV C20 is total garbage and alm unusable! Just sounds like a slap back echo, not a reverb! I don't use it. My Mooer Shimverb pedal does a much BETTER spring rev than what's in the C20!
Do you refer to the Peavey Classic 20 Mini-Head or the old Classic 20 Combo? I have a love/hate relationship with the digital spring reverb on the mini-head. It is nice for some stuff, but it definitely gets in the way, specially with overdrives and distortion. I use it mostly for cleans or for solos... With a reverb pedal like the Mooer Shimverb you can better tweak the reverb tone and decay to better suit a wide variety of tones. I've been actually wanting to try one for a while, specially the Strymon Flint and the TC Electronic Hall of Fame Mini
@@TheBedroomRocker1 Yes, the C20MH! GREAT little amp. The reverb SUCKS! I love the amp itself tho! So many GREAT features in such a small package! The IRs are crap too, but who uses those anyway? I highly recommend the Mooer Shimverb's hall and spring emulations. The shimmer effect is basically a synth pad with octaves etc. OK for a solo guitar piece, but not general playing! The GOOD thing about the Shimverb too is, it does NOT lose its punch when fed an o/d'ed signal! GIVE it a try 'Bert!
@@DMSProduktions Yes hahah it is a very versatile amp in a very convenient package. It was one of the first amps to offer a DI out with cabinet simulation. It is not an IR, but only an analog cab simulation and, yes, it is crap!
@@TheBedroomRocker1 IR/sim, same thing, different cat swing! I LOVE the amp, it sounds fantastic, love the mid boost, channel switching, fx loop etc, but the reverb & cab/speaker sim, you can KEEP! The rest is muito gostosa!
A so underrated demo video!!! Content are nicely arranged with great playing. Got all I wanted to know about this pedal and decided I still need a cab sim for this pedal
Thanks for the very nice comment 👍 glad it was useful
Got the Harley Benton American pedal, it has changed a lot my electric bouzouki sound, really improved! Suggested !
I'm a former pro session player and I think that you did a great job here. I discovered that I had this pedal in my collection. But I haven't tried it before today, and I think you are spot on with this review :) And god tasty guitar playing for this demo btw. And agree I turned up the Drive with the Voice on two o'clock and with my 1958 Les Paul, instant Iggy Pop. And even though I'm not into Iggy Pop today, I'm stunned over how this pedal can be so great.
Cool, many thanks for the nice comment!
Dude, you rock!
You're demos are awesome and really show off the capabilities of the pedals. Well done, keep it up.
Thanks a lot man! Very glad to know they are useful!
Aaaaaah, so sick of blues demo. Please more surfy tone!!!!!! Subscribed !!!
Thanks for the nice feedback and sub!
Really good video, great playing too. Just the right info in there, already subscribed. Keep it up!
Thanks for the sub!
I fancy this pedal after your clear explanation and settings. many thanks. I have a Mex Stratocaster that has been set up well and a Laney LC30 - 112 (2009) Class A British valve amp with a true spring reverb built in. This amp is already designed on the the clean channel to be Fender / Vox 60's like (Marshall on the drive channel) and it has the FX loop function to bypass the amps' pre-amp section. It comes with a 12" Celestion seventy 80 as stock (like a DSL Marshall - at £650) although I can run it to a twin / quatro cab if I wish - plenty of power in a 30W with 8 premium valves.
I have a genuine Ibanez TS9DX to lift the Strat's fairly thin pickup output - the DX features the TS9 circuit/tone and then various modes to boost this although I like to keep it clean and not colour the guitars own classic Fender tone. I will set the Laney up neutral on its own EQ per channel and try it with the pedal in front also, and with the bright switch on and off. I will try a little delay and tremelo also as you have suggested (Boss pedals).
Would be lovely to get to a nice 60's style Tweed sound which I think is pretty much what Clapton likes these days (at home at least). I will come back with a video if I can find the time to set up etc. Appreciate your post.
Hey that is a nice set-up! I've been wanting to try some Laney amps for a while, but never had the chance. Strats and tube screamers are always a great match! Try placing this pedal in the FX loop return of your amp. The pedal already lifts the sound of the guitar quite a bit and adds a lot of color, so it is usually not suited for going into another preamp section... but give it a try with the EQ set flat and it may work. Let me know how you like it!
@@TheBedroomRocker1 - Many thanks and you are welcome. Like the Marshall JTM45 before it, this model in the Laney range was an attempt to re-capture a 60's Fender / Vox style of amp and tone with a single 12" Celestion although it will output to a twin Jensen or Celestion cab easily with the ports on the rear, so potentially more like the Bluesbreaker or Fender Twin tone / output if you wish.
From what I have read Laney were trying to keep it portable for gigging although with enough power to drive a stack if that was your need. Which is probably why they built it around a single speaker in the combo version (there was a head only version). By the revision 3 model (2009) that I picked up used, they had added a few extra features such as a bright switch, low / high signal input jacks (handy if you have a low output Fender or Gretsch with Filtertrons), a master tone and volume after the EQ. As stock it has two channels both with their own EQ controls and independent volume and gain control. A 4 valve pre-amp / 4 valve power stage with the FX loop to bypass the former as you suggest.
It's biggest trick is that it has a real Accutronics Type 4 spring reverb tank on board inside the cab which is lush. Pics: bit.ly/3hSJY74 bit.ly/3kDfVC1 bit.ly/3hQ94Uc
The clean channel is rounded and glassy like a Vox although it will overdrive if you push it with a Gibson / 57's or a Stratocaster with a TS as you suggest. I have a DSL 40C Marshall and as a comparison I would say the Laney is a much warmer / less edgy on the clean channel and it can be still be very LOUD when required. The drive channel is voiced on early Marshall tones which again is no surprise as the box has a 60's vibe throughout.
The DSL has more options for overdrive with several modes and works well with a Les Paul or a Fender and a TS - the DSL is pitched as being able to go from 60's Marshall Blues to outright metal warp factor 10 and it certainly doesn't disappoint on that side but I would say the Laney has a more pleasing and flexible clean channel. Interestingly they both use a Celestion seventy / 80 12" speaker and the valves are close - DSL 4 x ECC83 PRE / 2 x Matched EL34 POW and the Laney 4 x ECC83 PRE / Matched quad set of EL84 POW
The Laney is certainly my favourite for clean tones and is a lighter box for gigging. As you can guess with me posting here on your review, I have purchased an HB American pedal and I am interested to see how close I can get the Laney to 60's Fender Tweed / Princeton type tone with the Strat but also looking to put an ES hollow body type guitar through it to see if it will clean up the hum-buckers for a warm, driven but not overly distorted clean lead tone (on a Gibson). It should be fun trying and much cheaper than the real thing plus you cannot gig your really good kit hard as most regular musicians know - local bars and clubs are not forgiving so I strive to get those classic tones without risking the family silver.
I would certainly recommend people to try and find an older Laney like the LC30-112 (other wattages exist including a 100) - I believe that my model is no longer produced / superseded. I picked it up for just £70 used as it needed a service and that included new pre-amp valves and a couple of resistor changes - nothing expensive. The amp itself retailed at around £600 in 2009 so they represent a bargain. The cabinet, front panel and switching / pots are all solid and it is true Class A build internally. Mine has been gigged regularly and it is still in good shape.
I will come back with a video if I can once I have had chance to play - best wishes from Guernsey.
@@Spartanm333 That sounds like a very nice and versatile amp! Let me know how it works with the HB American Tone. Greetings from Berlin
I think that the tone was different with the IR, but not necessarily better. You would just need to EQ the pedal a little differently to get a very similar tone, in my opinion.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, I agree that some EQ could help, but in my opinion there's always some harshness or DI-like characteristics with analog cabinet simulations that I dislike. In my opinion IRs generally tend to sound better, give more sound flexibility, and stereo options
Nice demo and tasty playing!
Thanks for the nice comment!
That was a quick thumbs up. Great job. Sounds excellent.
Thanks for the nice comment!
nice demo man, are you think joyo AS are better than fender amp sim in amplitube ?
That is a hard one. I think the AmpliTube is better for "plug-and-play" as it already has reverb and cabinet simulation. If you use other software or pedals to add these to the AS, then they are pretty much equivalent. AmpliTube is more practical for a computer set-up, but the AS is cheaper and easier to carry around and integrate into a pedal board and with other effects, etc.
Good demo and nice playing! My American Sound have been great for tracking basic demos/song ideas on Logic.
Hot take but I felt like I preferred the sound of the stock American Sound than it with IRs.
Thanks for the comment! That is interesting hahah sound/tone is always very subjective and personal. I have been using the American Sound very frequently when I do not want to use an amp, but I usually use IR's or some kind of cabinet simulation with it.
With IR it sounds really nice!) I want to combine this with NUX Mini Studio IR loader to get cheap direct in set-up in my pedalboard
Thanks! That's a great set-up and I'm actually planning to do the same. I've been reading on the NUX Studio IR and Mini Studio, the Mooer Radar, and the Two Notes C.A.B M for that purpose. I've contacted NUX to send me one unit, but I think my channel is still too small for that so they did not even reply... My plan is to make another video with amp-free pedal boards using some of these IR loaders in combination with the Harley Benton TrueTone pedals. I've already made a review on the British Sound as well and I have another one on the AC Tone coming up.
@@TheBedroomRocker1 I have tried Mooer Radar just with Screamer-style pedal and it totally sucks... Much better results I got from plugging tube amp's fx sent to Mooer Radar. But in such case we don't get any mobility... The main significant difference between radar, nux studio and torpedo cab is only in power amp simulation. So I guess, that amp-in-box pedal with basic IR loader can be very nice solution on affordable price
@@Dobrovinskiy Yes, most reviews I've seen tend to favor the power amp simulation on the Nux or specially the Cab M. The main advantage of the Cab M is that you can load 2 mics simultaneously, room reverb, and it comes bundled with excellent IR's from Two Notes developed with Celestion and other major IR providers. But it is indeed the double the price of the others.... for the video with the Harley Benton TrueTone pedals, I would rather use the Nux or the Radar. Think it makes more sense since they're in the same "budget" category.
How many miliamps does it use? Can it be ppwered with 100mA supply?
Hi man! Cool video, this product look really good.
I have a question.. i never use a real guitar amp, always put the guitar direct in an andio interface, and use an amp plugin (amplitube or Bias FX)
I like fender's emulation on Amplitube, but i want to go and familiar with hardware, so i think buy this HarleyBenton pedal.
Can i just plug my guitar in this pedal, go in my audio interface and after, use my pedalboard in Amplitube (chorus, delay reverb, and sometimes Octaver/harmonizer stuff) ? I think it's gonna be a mess, because the HB pedal is an amp simulation, and i dont know if in Amplitube we can just use the pedalboard (and maybe the cab?) but without the simulation head amp? Because it's gonna be an Amp simulation pedal + an amp simulation vst ... i'm totally lost haha.. So if you can help me please.
Thanks my friend, and sorry for my bad english, i'm french ^^
Continue your videos!
Hi Koneb,
Thanks for the nice comment! Yes, you can definitely do that. For the introduction of this video, I plugged guitar --> HB American Sound --> Audio Interface --> Amplitube (amp simulation turned off, just the reverb on) --> Two Notes Wall of Sound (cabinet simulation). In Amplitube, you can turn all amps and effects on/off, so you can turn the amp off and just use the effects and the cab simulation.
The Bedroom Rocker Thanks a lot for the answer (really fast lol) Ok so i think i gonna go for this solution ... do you think, with this pedal, its gonna sound better than an Amp Simulation Plugin? Oh and i got a last question.. Normally, in a pedalchain effects you put Overdrive, fuzz, modulation delay and reverb pedals before this HB pedal, right ? The HB is the last. But in my case, i will have just the HB pedal, and after in the chain, in amplitube, my fuzz reverb ect... for reverb or delay i think its good, doesn’t matter if they are after thé HB pedal, but what for the fuzz / Overdrive ? Can we put an overdrive pedal (simulation) after the signal processed by the HB pedal ? Thank you a lot.. i hope i’m not too boring lol !
@@koneb1323 I actually really like the sound of the AmpliTube Fender collection. Also, with AmpliTube you have the full chain (effects, amp, cabinet, microphone), while the pedal simulates just the amp. I think the AmpliTube amp simulation is likely better, so I would not recommend the pedal if you are only using it together with AmpliTube. The pedal offers you more mobility for playing live, it's fully analog (no latency from digital converters and signal processing), and it's certainly better to combine with other real effect pedals.
As for the effect orders, there's no right or wrong, just the "most usual way". On the real world, you would run any gain pedal before the HB. Modulation really depends on taste. Time-based effects (reverb/delay/tremolo) come after, but this is mostly important if you are using the gain from the HB. I don't think that running digital overdrive/fuzz simulations after the HB would sound/feel nice. I would stick to AmpliTube (full digital) or run a proper analog overdrive/fuzz pedal in front of the HB American Sound and then into AmpliTube for the time-based effects and cab simulations
The Bedroom Rocker Oh ok i see.. its better if i stay with all digital so... i really like fender’s amp too in Amplitube, but i dont know, i’ m not able to make a cool sound with it.. i play most of the time with a clean sound! But the 65 deluxe reverb is too clean (dont really see the différence between the DI raw sound and the sound when i’m in thé 65 deluxe) and the 57 deluxe is too crunch and cold in my opinion.. that’s why when i see this pedal, and the warm sound it gives, i would have liked to buy it! But maybe it’s me, i’m surely a noob with amp simulation 😂 But thank you for all your help and your kindness !
@@koneb1323 Yes, maybe it's a matter of tweaking the amp more. The '65 Deluxe Reverb is indeed clean, but should def sound rounder than the DI, which normally has some annoying edgy sound. The '57 Deluxe has a very particular sound and break-up, which some ppl love and many others don't. One of my first videos here was exactly about AmpliTube and I'm playing the '65 Deluxe Reverb: ruclips.net/video/DcBi-XYV_JI/видео.html
Also, if you watch the comparison of this video (3:46) with some nice headphones, you can easily realize that the pedal itself is not very warm and still has some fizzy sound... it's better, but still similar to a DI. To me, the cab simulation is really what made the pedal usable. You may want to try the Two Notes Wall of Sound plug-in as I think they have a free version with a limited number of cabinets and microphones. It has a bit of a steeper learning curve than AmpliTube, but it is one of the best software out there for speaker cabinet simulation using impulse responses. You could use the amp and effect simulations from AmpliTube with the cab turned off, and then use the cab sim from the Wall of Sound
What song you re playing at the beginning? Great playing
Thank you Marcio! It is some surf rock I came up with. I avoid playing commercial music in my channel because RUclips has been a nightmare with copyrights...
Hi ,I got the American sound, and I'll play it through my amplifer directly in return fx, , I have a pedal reverb, in your opinion where I place the pedal reverb before or after the American sound?
I would place it after the American Sound. Placing reverbs after gain stages usually delivers the clearest sound. However, nothing prevents you from experimenting to see what works out the best ;-)
Hi,Very Nice demo and Great Sound,haven't you modified this pedal to bypass the internal cab sim,have you?
Thanks for the comment! No, I haven't. I want to try it eventually since I always use the pedal with other cab sims like impulse responses or Two Notes DynIR. Is there an internal switch or does it involve soldering?
@@TheBedroomRocker1 need some soldering...you can finde several schematics on the net
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Thanks for the kind comment!
doesn't replicate the cab right?
To quote Harley Benton's tech support: "it has a slight cab simulation". For clean sounds is not bad, but it's harsh and fizzy with drives. If you put an impulse response cab sim after it, the sound improves dramatically
@@TheBedroomRocker1 thanks!
Is this the same as Joyo?
Yes, it's the exact same effect with a different branding
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How does everyone come up with the idea that this pedal generates a Fender amp? Nowhere does it say it's an amp simulator. Just because it's called American Sound? That's nonsense, for me it generates the sound of the American metal bands of the 80's and it's NOT a Fende amp simulation. Just like the British Sound is also not a Marshall amp simulator, but reproduces the sound of the rock bands of the 70s, e.g. Deep Purple. (Hence the colour). If you would like to have an amp simulator pedal from this series, you should get the California Sound, which generates the sound of a MEsa Boogie. or the AC-Tone, which generates the sound of a Vox Ac-30. But the American sound and the British sound do NOT simulate Fender or Marshall amp sounds, they generate the sound of metal rock bands from the USA or GB. Play on the British sound, Smoke on the Water, you will notice that it makes sounds of the bands and does not simulate amps...........
This pedal is based on a Tech 21 Blonde, designed specifically to emulate a Fender Twin/Deluxe sound
Reverb on my PV C20 is total garbage and alm unusable! Just sounds like a slap back echo, not a reverb! I don't use it. My Mooer Shimverb pedal does a much BETTER spring rev than what's in the C20!
Do you refer to the Peavey Classic 20 Mini-Head or the old Classic 20 Combo? I have a love/hate relationship with the digital spring reverb on the mini-head. It is nice for some stuff, but it definitely gets in the way, specially with overdrives and distortion. I use it mostly for cleans or for solos... With a reverb pedal like the Mooer Shimverb you can better tweak the reverb tone and decay to better suit a wide variety of tones. I've been actually wanting to try one for a while, specially the Strymon Flint and the TC Electronic Hall of Fame Mini
@@TheBedroomRocker1 Yes, the C20MH! GREAT little amp. The reverb SUCKS!
I love the amp itself tho! So many GREAT features in such a small package! The IRs are crap too, but who uses those anyway?
I highly recommend the Mooer Shimverb's hall and spring emulations. The shimmer effect is basically a synth pad with octaves etc. OK for a solo guitar piece, but not general playing!
The GOOD thing about the Shimverb too is, it does NOT lose its punch when fed an o/d'ed signal!
GIVE it a try 'Bert!
@@DMSProduktions Yes hahah it is a very versatile amp in a very convenient package. It was one of the first amps to offer a DI out with cabinet simulation. It is not an IR, but only an analog cab simulation and, yes, it is crap!
@@TheBedroomRocker1 IR/sim, same thing, different cat swing! I LOVE the amp, it sounds fantastic, love the mid boost, channel switching, fx loop etc, but the reverb & cab/speaker sim, you can KEEP!
The rest is muito gostosa!